Immigration freeze omits countries linked to attacks in the US

[Adam Lambert]

:lmao unemployable after spending 100K+ and all of your adult life in a social "feel good" club.
:lmao realizing you will have to accept work outside of your dissertation
:lmao life in R&D
:lmao working for the government
:lmao GS levels
:lmao "Humanities"

lol projecting your lifes failures on me
lol all because i said phd
lol supreme butthurt

[DMC]

lol projecting your lifes failures on me
lol all because i said phd
lol supreme butthurt

:claw smacked down by the hand

[boutons_deux]

Trump supporter tells NPR: ‘If a Muslim woman moves here, she needs to leave her towel home’

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/brothers_wide-744b95843081e89a53a840c0d376a7420c889c7b-s800-c85-Edit.jpg

Two brothers who support President Donald Trump argued over the weekend that the president was right to place a ban on travel from seven majority-Muslim countries because

Jesus Christ is “the reason this country is here and safe today.”
“We were one nation under God. The Muslims are into Allah.

They can’t live there [in their home countries] anymore because of all the turmoil and unrest. :lol

Here we still have somewhat peace. ( :lol no "carnage"? :lol )

So if you’re going to come here to enjoy this peace, follow our rules and be one nation under God. Or stay home. I’m not making you change your religion, or whatever you want to call it, your belief. But if you want this, what we want, then

you got to do what we’re doing to get it.”

Bill also disagreed with the notion that the Constitution gives Americans the right to worship the god of their choice.

“That is something I believe that has come along with political correctness and all this other garbage,” he insisted.

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/trump-supporter-tells-npr-if-a-muslim-woman-moves-here-she-needs-to-leave-her-towel-home/

goddam, they're stupid, intolerant, ignorant, and sound just like you assholes here on ST.

[Thread]

Trump chose Anka's "My Way" as his anthem.

For what is a man, what has he got
If not himself, then he has naught
To say the things he truly feels
And not the words of one who kneels

They, THEY, they want him to kneel because they themselves have knelt.

Don't-fucking-kneel.

[boutons_deux]

Even KK is smarter than you rightwing dumbfucks

https://twitter.com/KimKardashian/status/825580660337283073

[Adam Lambert]

:claw smacked down by the hand

lol

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4415766.jpg

yeah you should probably tap out for a while.

[DarrinS]

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/02/18/dhs-announces-further-travel-restrictions-visa-waiver-program

[Cry Havoc]

"When I was a child I played with childish things. When I became a man I put childish things away." Grow the fuck up, Reck.

Like internet sports forums where you build and maintain an alter-ego? :lol

[Thread]

Like internet sports forums where you build and maintain an alter-ego? :lol

With other like minded adults. Hello?

[Cry Havoc]

"When I was a child I played with childish things. When I became a man I put childish things away." Grow the fuck up, Reck.


With other like minded adults. Hello?

I play video games with other like-minded adults. What's your point?

[Spurminator]

Trump's America...


i mean damn the level of butthurt you have towards the very mention of phd, I have to wonder if you lost a job to one?

or a boyfriend?

anyway keep up the effort, exorcise those demons


:lmao unemployable after spending 100K+ and all of your adult life in a social "feel good" club.
:lmao realizing you will have to accept work outside of your dissertation
:lmao life in R&D
:lmao working for the government
:lmao GS levels
:lmao "Humanities"


lol projecting your lifes failures on me
lol all because i said phd
lol supreme butthurt


:claw smacked down by the hand


lol

http://www.mememaker.net/static/images/memes/4415766.jpg

yeah you should probably tap out for a while.

[Will Hunting]

I'm not sure why my fairly obvious comment about dirt poor Syrian refugees being unskilled labor resulted in a comment war about PHDs being skilled/unskilled.

[Cry Havoc]

I'm not sure why my fairly obvious comment about dirt poor Syrian refugees being unskilled labor resulted in a comment war about PHDs being skilled/unskilled.

Insecurity.

[Cry Havoc]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/us/mit-syria-student-ban-trnd/index.html

Clearly this person could never give anything of value to our nation. :rolleyes

[ElNono]

But the married immigrant gets their green card in 3-6 months vs. 3-6 years if they file I-485 without a sponsor.

That's why I said it removes some limitations. But, your spouse is your sponsor. The I-485 is the same exact form that an individual files when allocated a green card through a corporate sponsor. You pay the same $1000+ fee, you have to submit to the same biometrics and background checks and you also have to go through an interview to prove your marriage is not fraudulent. Marriage simply automatically opens up a visa for you, accelerates both the process of obtaining a green card and how fast you can apply for citizenship once you do have a green card (Form N-400, $600+ filing fee, 3 years if married, 5 if you're not).

Again, this has nothing to do with what I was pointing out: the vast majority of H1B holders are not sponsored for a green card at the end of their stay. Getting married to a US citizen is certainly an option, but marriage is entering into a contract, and as any sane person would tell you, risky business. If you want to find a bigger source of forced immigration, look no further than anchor babies.

[Adam Lambert]

I'm not sure why my fairly obvious comment about dirt poor Syrian refugees being unskilled labor resulted in a comment war about PHDs being skilled/unskilled.

i was clarifying whether you thought or meant that everyone impacted by this ban is unskilled, and i used a trigger word for some other ppl i guess

[Th'Pusher]

For the record, unemployment rates are lower for people with professional and doctoral degrees.

[Splits]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/us/mit-syria-student-ban-trnd/index.html

Clearly this person could never give anything of value to our nation. :rolleyes


Hassan doesn't know what he'll do next.

Hmmm... :cry they hate us for our freedoms :cry

[DMC]

http://images.45cat.com/the-derailers-more-of-your-love-sony.jpg

[Cry Havoc]

http://images.45cat.com/the-derailers-more-of-your-love-sony.jpg

Good post. You just made a thread talking about illegal immigration into a generalized attack against people with advanced degrees.

[Reck]

:claw smacked down by the hand

Should've gone with something else.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/DMCHand_zps86eecc97.jpg

Fat hands, short fingers. With a nice yellow skin tinge to boot. :lol

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Should've gone with something else.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/DMCHand_zps86eecc97.jpg

Fat hands, short fingers. With a nice yellow skin tinge to boot. :lol

Jaundiced plump wrist.

[boutons_deux]

Steve Bannon believes Christians locked in ‘bloody conflict’ with Islam — now he heads US security

Bannon warned members of the audience:


We’re at the very beginning stages of a very brutal and bloody conflict, of which if the people in this room, the people in the church, do not bind together and really form what I feel is an aspect of the church militant, to really be able to not just stand with our beliefs, but to fight for our beliefs against this new barbarity that’s starting, that will completely eradicate everything that we’ve been bequeathed over the last 2,000, 2,500 years.


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/steve-bannon-believes-christians-locked-in-bloody-conflict-with-islam-now-he-heads-us-security/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

0.02% of Muslims are terrorists.

[boutons_deux]

Sheriff David Clarke: ‘It’s Showdown Time’ Against Those Protesting Trump

https://twitter.com/SheriffClarke/status/826102358493057024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

Clarke appears to be calling for action against the left, asking his supporters if they are ready.

http://www.mediaite.com/online/sheriff-david-clarke-its-showdown-time-against-those-protesting-trump/

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16265400_10155593327252908_3526607531839966344_n.p ng?oh=c6987feffb473af805b899ebc00ffba6&oe=590FE0DC

[Cry Havoc]

January 30th, 2:42pm Tejas time

Saudia Arabia immigrants/refugees still not banned from entering US.



Tick-tock. I thought he was going to add them? What's he doing all morning besides using Twitter? I guess he wants to keep us safe but meh, who's in a rush to make sure that potential terrorists can't enter our country, eh? What's the rush?

[boutons_deux]

White Nationalists Praise Trump’s Muslim Ban: “God Bless You,” “Feel Like Crying” With Joy

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2017/01/30/white-nationalists-praise-trump-s-muslim-ban-god-bless-you-feel-crying-joy/215175?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+MediaMattersForAmerica-CountyFair+%28Media+Matters+for+America+-+Blog%29

[UNT Eagles 2016]

That's why I said it removes some limitations. But, your spouse is your sponsor. The I-485 is the same exact form that an individual files when allocated a green card through a corporate sponsor. You pay the same $1000+ fee, you have to submit to the same biometrics and background checks and you also have to go through an interview to prove your marriage is not fraudulent. Marriage simply automatically opens up a visa for you, accelerates both the process of obtaining a green card and how fast you can apply for citizenship once you do have a green card (Form N-400, $600+ filing fee, 3 years if married, 5 if you're not).

Again, this has nothing to do with what I was pointing out: the vast majority of H1B holders are not sponsored for a green card at the end of their stay. Getting married to a US citizen is certainly an option, but marriage is entering into a contract, and as any sane person would tell you, risky business. If you want to find a bigger source of forced immigration, look no further than anchor babies.
That's for damn sure. How the hell is the government supposed to deport people when their children are legally U.S. citizens? You can't take a child away from their parents (unless their parents are abusive/psycho etc) as that's simply heartless and turns the children and parents into vengeful terrorists. The whole process sparks popular hatred of the U.S. across the world from those countries and other countries.

Trump needs to abolish anchor babies ASAP... babies should only get the better status of their two parents, or the status of its parents if both parents are the same status. Babies born to immigrants becoming automatic citizens is the most fucktarded thing the lawmakers could have possibly dreamed up. So if one or both parents has a green card, or if one has a green card and the other has just a visa, the baby should get a green card. If both have just a visa, the baby gets just a visa. If one has a visa and the other is illegal, the baby gets a visa. If both are illegal, the baby is illegal and should be deported along with its parent(s). Of course, if one or both parents is a U.S. citizen, the baby should be a citizen.

[DMC]

Should've gone with something else.

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a68/Koolbreezey/DMCHand_zps86eecc97.jpg

Fat hands, short fingers. With a nice yellow skin tinge to boot. :lol


Jaundiced plump wrist.

A dude who willingly names himself after a WoW character "Shadowflames" and another who names himself after a Powerpuff Girls character talking about male hand cosmetics. :lmao

[FuzzyLumpkins]

A dude who willingly names himself after a WoW character "Shadowflames" and another who names himself after a Powerpuff Girls character talking about male hand cosmetics. :lmao

Cosmetics? :lol you don't even know what the word means, dullard. So sad when google is a few keystrokes away. You applying fat to your body?

[Reck]

A dude who willingly names himself after a WoW character "Shadowflames" and another who names himself after a Powerpuff Girls character talking about male hand cosmetics. :lmao

A woW character? lmao

You're so short on effective retorts you are making shit up. :lol desperate.

Or you can you know, prove it.

[Reck]

Cosmetics? :lol you don't even know what the word means, dullard. So sad when google is a few keystrokes away. You applying fat to your body?

The sad thing is that this lame fuck actually tried to google our names and went with whatever the results gave him. :lol

Talk about fat and lazy. DMC is really living up to his predispositions.

[Thread]

The sad thing is that this lame fuck actually tried to google our names and went with whatever the results gave him. :lol

Talk about fat and lazy. DMC is really living up to his predispositions.

& I'm sick of your shit, Recky. You've been on the fuckin' rag ever since Trump got sworn.

Act like somebody.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The sad thing is that this lame fuck actually tried to google our names and went with whatever the results gave him. :lol

Talk about fat and lazy. DMC is really living up to his predispositions.

I am named after a cartoon villain. It is intended to be a foil to my abrasive and adversarial online demeanor. I don't give a fuck if people are going to act like online handles are serious business. Handle warriors unite!

The issue in my mind is in his avatar for quite some time he had Devil May Cry's graphic up. It makes me wondering how self loathing he is if he is ridiculing others because he thinks they are named after a video game.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

& I'm sick of your shit, Recky. You've been on the fuckin' rag ever since Trump got sworn.

Act like somebody.

You're trying too hard, Bozo. It is starting to appear shrill.

[Splits]

& I'm sick of your shit, Recky. You've been on the fuckin' rag ever since Trump got sworn.

Act like somebody.

How would you know? You never set foot down here till 9 Nov, hockey stick

Post-Pau
Post-9/11

See a pattern?

[Reck]

& I'm sick of your shit, Recky. You've been on the fuckin' rag ever since Trump got sworn.

Act like somebody.

I am acting like somebody.

I didn't like Trump in the start and I'm certainly not going to start now. I'm staying true.

I would've thought you all of would appreciate my dedication.

[DMC]

Cosmetics? :lol you don't even know what the word means, dullard. So sad when google is a few keystrokes away. You applying fat to your body?

Sure I know what it means. Do you know what I meant?

:lol faggot

[DMC]

I am acting like somebody.

Yeah, a faggot.

[Reck]

I don't give a fuck if people are going to act like online handles are serious business. Handle warriors unite!

Of course is serious business to DMC. This board...and likely other boards he frequents is all he knows. He's not much of a socialite.

And to be honest I wouldn't give a shit how anyone here spends their time if he didn't act like a stickler always interjecting himself in what people like or dont like.

[DMC]

A woW character? lmao

You're so short on effective retorts you are making shit up. :lol desperate.

Or you can you know, prove it.

http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/148/196/673.png

[Thread]

I am acting like somebody.

I didn't like Trump in the start and I'm certainly not going to start now. I'm staying true.

I would've thought you all of would appreciate my dedication.

You mean for a man "To say the things he truly feels, and not the words of one kneels."?

Go on, Recky. I was wrong to scold you.

[DMC]

I am named after a cartoon villain. It is intended to be a foil to my abrasive and adversarial online demeanor. I don't give a fuck if people are going to act like online handles are serious business. Handle warriors unite!

The issue in my mind is in his avatar for quite some time he had Devil May Cry's graphic up. It makes me wondering how self loathing he is if he is ridiculing others because he thinks they are named after a video game.

That's one way to spin it...

Door #2: You're a faggot

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sure I know what it means. Do you know what I meant?

:lol faggot

Cosmetics are something you apply to the body to improve appearance.

cos·met·ic
käzˈmedik/
noun
plural noun: cosmetics
a product applied to the body, especially the face, to improve its appearance.

Cellulite and jaundice do not do that. Quite the contrary

I know what you intended but I was speaking to the person that gets upset when I use multisyllables. You don't know what cosmetic means and are trying to use the word. That is how you properly show someone that is pseudo-intellectual. Your way just reads like the carping that you hear from the lower classes about the people they are worried are their betters. "You think you're better than me!"

See when I decide to insult someone I look to see what they use to insult people with as it shows what they care about. This is doubly so when dealing with megalomaniacs like yourself. It is tantamount to self ownage. I use that.

Your constant comments on homosexuals are equally telling. Good job, dim.

[DMC]

Cosmetics are something you apply to the body to improve appearance.

cos·met·ic
käzˈmedik/
noun
plural noun: cosmetics
a product applied to the body, especially the face, to improve its appearance.

Cellulite and jaundice do not do that. Quite the contrary

I know what you intended but I was speaking to the person that gets upset when I use multisyllables. You don't know what cosmetic means and are trying to use the word. That is how you show someone that is pseudo-intellectual.

See when I decide to insult someone I look to see what they use to insult people with as it shows what they care about. This is doubly so when dealing with megalomaniacs like yourself. It is tantamount to self ownage.

Your constant comments on homosexuals are equally telling. Good job, dim.

You berate autistic kids and try to body shame people, and you're a notorious board faggot who uses the term "ownage" as if you're an 8 year old from the 90's, then you call someone a pseudo-intellectual? lol... cubicle worker.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

You berate autistic kids and try to body shame people, and you're a notorious board faggot who uses the term "ownage" as if you're an 8 year old from the 90's, then you call someone a pseudo-intellectual? lol... cubicle worker.

So your notions of accomplishment are moving out of the cubicle. Way to set that bar low.

What is wrong with the 90s? Good music. Booming economy from profound technological advances. That is not as insulting as you want it to be, dim.

No, I am berating you by comparing you to how severely autistic kids get when they are upset. The experience is what it is. There are no autistic kids here to berate, dim.

Or are you just going cavalier for them in absentia like a hypocritical simpleton? I realize you would like to have it both ways but it just makes you inconsequential. Good job.

So you are ashamed of your body then. That would explain quite a bit.

[Reck]

http://media-hearth.cursecdn.com/avatars/148/196/673.png

So this is the proof you are putting forth? :lol

First of all, my name wasn't Shadowflame..it was Shadowflames. There is your first distiction.

Now let me show your ass.


http://i68.tinypic.com/2psf51h.jpg

But wait..when did this game come out?
http://i67.tinypic.com/20jp84x.jpg

AND since when I have been posting under said "name?"
http://i63.tinypic.com/2ltjy1y.jpg

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112339&page=2

See date
http://i63.tinypic.com/15fm87a.jpg

https://racing-forums.com/threads/thoughts-on-the-race.19995/#post-253743

Or maybe...how about the fact I'm not a PC gamer, you dumb fuck?

:lmao

[spurraider21]

To be fair hearthstone is a spinoff of wow... I've never played wow but there's a pretty good chance shadowflame was a concept in wow that got adopted into the card game

[Cry Havoc]

So this is the proof you are putting forth? :lol

First of all, my name wasn't Shadowflame..it was Shadowflames. There is your first distiction.

Now let me show your ass.


http://i68.tinypic.com/2psf51h.jpg

But wait..when did this game come out?
http://i67.tinypic.com/20jp84x.jpg

AND since when I have been posting under said "name?"
http://i63.tinypic.com/2ltjy1y.jpg

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112339&page=2

See date
http://i63.tinypic.com/15fm87a.jpg

https://racing-forums.com/threads/thoughts-on-the-race.19995/#post-253743

Or maybe...how about the fact I'm not a PC gamer, you dumb fuck?

:lmao

:lmao holy shit DMC just keep taking them Ls, especially with Thread in-tow, proudly flailing like he always does.

[Cry Havoc]

To be fair hearthstone is a spinoff of wow... I've never played wow but there's a pretty good chance shadowflame was a concept in wow that got adopted into the card game

The concept of a "shadow flame" probably predates modern English. :lol Trying to pin it to an individual source is silly and absurd, especially when trying to insult someone on a message board about their online handle.

[Reck]

To be fair hearthstone is a spinoff of wow... I've never played wow but there's a pretty good chance shadowflame was a concept in wow that got adopted into the card game

Never have I but this is the stuff that a simple google search would yield in no time.

You just gotta follow the links.

Warlords of Draenor (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Warlords_of_Draenor) introduced shadowflame demons (http://wow.gamepedia.com/Demon).

http://wow.gamepedia.com/World_of_Warcraft:_Warlords_of_Draenor

And that game came out in 2014 as well so DMC simply just shit the bed trying to force a joke in.

[Mark Celibate]

http://dailycaller.com/2016/06/01/sweden-took-162k-refugees-last-year-494-got-jobs/#ixzz4XHu8ANAI

rofl

[Splits]

826216733245636609

[boutons_deux]

chickenshits

Just a fraction of President Trump’s executive advisers reacted to his immigration ban

Nearly 50 companies are advising Trump, but less than half of those executives have discussed immigration ban


http://www.salon.com/2017/01/30/only-a-dozen-of-president-trumps-executive-advisers-reacted-to-his-immigration-ban/

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s press secretary makes the case for restricting 5-year-olds coming into the US

Sean Spicer’s answer came in response to questions about Trump’s executive order on immigration, which has been criticized as a “Muslim ban.”

“That’s why we slow [the process] down a little,” Spicer said at the daily press briefing.

“To make sure that if they are a 5-year-old, that maybe they’re with their parents and they don’t pose a threat. But to assume that just because of someone’s age or gender or whatever that they don’t pose a threat would be misguided and wrong.” :lol
The argument, essentially, is that basically anyone from the restricted Muslim-majority countries can do dangerous things, so we should carefully vet and potentially ban even young children from entering the US.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/30/14442528/trump-muslim-ban-sean-spicer-5-year-old

Sean Goebbels Spicer

[boutons_deux]

http://usuncut.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/victoria.png

Hours after Trump’s Muslim ban, Texas mosque burned to the ground

The Islamic Center of Victoria, which supports roughly 100 local Muslims in the community roughly 125 miles from Houston, was completely gutted by the fire, and its leader watched helplessly as their mosque was destroyed.

“It’s a house of worship,” said Islamic Center of Victoria president Shahid Hashmi,

http://usuncut.com/news/trump-muslim-ban-mosque-fire/




Target was $850K to rebuild. Donations are already over $900K, in less than 3 days.

[ElNono]

That's for damn sure. How the hell is the government supposed to deport people when their children are legally U.S. citizens? You can't take a child away from their parents (unless their parents are abusive/psycho etc) as that's simply heartless and turns the children and parents into vengeful terrorists. The whole process sparks popular hatred of the U.S. across the world from those countries and other countries.

Trump needs to abolish anchor babies ASAP... babies should only get the better status of their two parents, or the status of its parents if both parents are the same status. Babies born to immigrants becoming automatic citizens is the most fucktarded thing the lawmakers could have possibly dreamed up. So if one or both parents has a green card, or if one has a green card and the other has just a visa, the baby should get a green card. If both have just a visa, the baby gets just a visa. If one has a visa and the other is illegal, the baby gets a visa. If both are illegal, the baby is illegal and should be deported along with its parent(s). Of course, if one or both parents is a U.S. citizen, the baby should be a citizen.

Unfortunately, that's codified on Section 1 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

You can thank slavery for that. It was actually codified there to prevent it from being stricken down by the Supreme court or a Congressional majority vote (apparently back then the Civil Rights Act which defined citizenship and naturalization was hotly contested in Congress).

So it would take another Constitutional amendment to bring it down.

[DMC]

Not sure it applies to illegals though, they are not subject to the jurisdiction if they are not here legally, thus we can deport them without much ado.

[ElNono]

Not sure it applies to illegals though, they are not subject to the jurisdiction if they are not here legally, thus we can deport them without much ado.

Well, if they can be arrested, tried and jailed in the US while they're in the US, they're clearly subject to the jurisdiction. The "subject to the jurisdiction" part comes from the fact that entities such as US embassies in other countries are also considered "subject to the jurisdiction" of the US.

[Spurminator]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald-trump-1/2017/01/29/isis-radicals-see-trumps-executive-order-blessed-ban

Jihadist groups on Sunday celebrated the Trump administration's ban on travel from seven Muslim-majority countries, saying the new policy validates their claim that the United States is at war with Islam.

Comments posted to pro-Islamic State social media accounts predicted that President Donald Trump's executive order would persuade American Muslims to side with the extremists. One posting hailed the U.S. president as "the best caller to Islam," while others predicted that Trump would soon launch a new war in the Middle East.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Unfortunately, that's codified on Section 1 of the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.

All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

You can thank slavery for that. It was actually codified there to prevent it from being stricken down by the Supreme court or a Congressional majority vote (apparently back then the Civil Rights Act which defined citizenship and naturalization was hotly contested in Congress).

So it would take another Constitutional amendment to bring it down.

So... the Republicans would have to get 66 out of 100 seats in Senate or at least close to that and pull up a few moderate Democrats? That would be an extremely rare heavy tilt, but it's actually not impossible given the nature of how the 2018 races shape up, 26 Democrats to 8 Republicans I believe defending their seats. All thanks in part to how remarkably well the Republicans defended the Senate in 2016 in spite of similarly long odds.

[ElNono]

So... the Republicans would have to get 66 out of 100 seats in Senate or at least close to that and pull up a few moderate Democrats? That would be an extremely rare heavy tilt, but it's actually not impossible given the nature of how the 2018 races shape up, 26 Democrats to 8 Republicans I believe defending their seats. All thanks in part to how remarkably well the Republicans defended the Senate in 2016 in spite of similarly long odds.

That's just to propose it. Then it needs to be ratified by three-fourths of state legislatures (38 states at present). Right now the GOP controls 32 legislatures, and it's not even a sure thing they would all vote for it, IMO.

Passing a Constitutional Amendment is very difficult. That's why we have very few in such a long history.

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So... the Republicans would have to get 66 out of 100 seats in Senate or at least close to that and pull up a few moderate Democrats? That would be an extremely rare heavy tilt, but it's actually not impossible given the nature of how the 2018 races shape up, 26 Democrats to 8 Republicans I believe defending their seats. All thanks in part to how remarkably well the Republicans defended the Senate in 2016 in spite of similarly long odds.

And another thing:::they'll be voting here on in. 75%+ starting next year.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

And another thing:::they'll be voting here on in. 75%+ starting next year.

Who will be voting here on in? The Republicans always vote more than Democrats anyways.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

That's just to propose it. Then it needs to be ratified by three-fourths of state legislatures (38 states at present). Right now the GOP controls 32 legislatures, and it's not even a sure thing they would all vote for it, IMO.

Passing a Constitutional Amendment is very difficult. That's why we have very few in such a long history.
So a new amendment is unlikely. Well then.

Executive order, bam. Barry loved it, Trump is even more fast-finger with it than Barry already it seems. Let's see

[FuzzyLumpkins]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/giuliani-says-trump-asked-him-how-to-legally-enact-muslim-ban-174303609.html

“I’ll tell you the whole history of it,” Giuliani said in an interview with Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro on Saturday night. “When he first announced it, he said ‘Muslim ban.’ He called me up. He said, ‘Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.'”

[Reck]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/giuliani-says-trump-asked-him-how-to-legally-enact-muslim-ban-174303609.html

“I’ll tell you the whole history of it,” Giuliani said in an interview with Fox News’ Jeanine Pirro on Saturday night. “When he first announced it, he said ‘Muslim ban.’ He called me up. He said, ‘Put a commission together. Show me the right way to do it legally.'”

Looks like they still didn't do it legally..for the most part or we wouldn't have judges and procecutors saying why dont you stop for a moment. :lol

[Mark Celibate]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald-trump-1/2017/01/29/isis-radicals-see-trumps-executive-order-blessed-ban

Jihadist groups on Sunday celebrated the Trump administration's ban on travel from seven Muslim-majority countries, saying the new policy validates their claim that the United States is at war with Islam.

Comments posted to pro-Islamic State social media accounts predicted that President Donald Trump's executive order would persuade American Muslims to side with the extremists. One posting hailed the U.S. president as "the best caller to Islam," while others predicted that Trump would soon launch a new war in the Middle East.

:lmao

That's some shit logic. What's the alternative, just surrender and spread our buttcheeks?

:cry pwetty pweeeaase let's not make them angwy and give them what they want :cry

If these Muslims get mad and convert, then that just proves it was the right thing to do to not let more of these nut jobs in. Once they're exposed as radical Jihadists, Trump will just get tougher on the ones here domestically meaning we'll be even closer to ridding ourselves of these pests. You're logic doesn't make any sense at all and sounds like something a literal cuckold would say.

[DarrinS]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald-trump-1/2017/01/29/isis-radicals-see-trumps-executive-order-blessed-ban

Jihadist groups on Sunday celebrated the Trump administration's ban on travel from seven Muslim-majority countries, saying the new policy validates their claim that the United States is at war with Islam.

Comments posted to pro-Islamic State social media accounts predicted that President Donald Trump's executive order would persuade American Muslims to side with the extremists. One posting hailed the U.S. president as "the best caller to Islam," while others predicted that Trump would soon launch a new war in the Middle East.

Islamists and Democrats use the same talking points -- weird.

[boutons_deux]

tranny Julie Annie admitted Trash wanted a Muslim ban and asked JA how not to call it a Muslim ban.

sycophant JA's great insight of slime was to use Obama's list of countries, not religions.

Julie Annie is as fucking stupid as he is obnoxious.

IT'S A MUSLIM BAN

[boutons_deux]

Jeffrey Lord accidentally admits travel ban targets Muslims: ‘We’re not being attacked by Episcopalians

http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/Screen-Shot-2017-01-31-at-8.18.50-AM-1.png


http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/jeffrey-lord-accidentally-admits-travel-ban-targets-muslims-were-not-being-attacked-by-episcopalians/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

IT'S A MUSLIM BAN

[DarrinS]

I'M VIRTUE SIGNALING MY LITTLE HEART OUT

[Spurminator]

Islamists and Democrats use the same talking points -- weird.

Example?

[Spurminator]

Islamists and Democrats use the same talking points -- weird.

Pretty sure the whole "religious war" thing is a lot more prevalent in Republican talking points.

[Thread]

Islamists and Democrats use the same talking points -- weird.

DS

[spurraider21]

How is it a Muslim ban... The countries with the largest Muslims populations are Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and Nigeria. No bans there.

[Spurminator]

How is it a Muslim ban... The countries with the largest Muslims populations are Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and Nigeria. No bans there.

No one suggested the EO banned all Muslims. The EO specifically targets 7 countries but makes exceptions for "religious minorities" (ie non-Muslims) from those countries.

[DarrinS]

How is it a Muslim ban... The countries with the largest Muslims populations are Indonesia, Pakistan, India, Bangladesh, and Nigeria. No bans there.

Easier to remember. Also, fits nicely on t-shirts, protest signs, and pussy hats.

[spurraider21]

No one suggested the EO banned all Muslims. The EO specifically targets 7 countries but makes exceptions for "religious minorities" (ie non-Muslims) from those countries.
The expression "Muslim ban" implies that Muslims aren't allowed. A restaurant that bans black people but still allows black people isn't really banning black people.

A supposed exception carved out for religious minorities isn't surprising, either. If the grounds for the policy is the "threat of radical islam" (and it's irrelevant if you think this is valid or not), then a christian or jew wouldn't be included as part of the threat. For the record, I'm completely against the policy on multiple grounds... but the rationale (religious minorities) makes sense in relation to the goal of the policy (which I think will fail anyway, personally).

[DarrinS]

No one suggested the EO banned all Muslims. The EO specifically targets 7 countries but makes exceptions for "religious minorities" (ie non-Muslims) from those countries.

"the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest — including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution"

[Spurminator]

The expression "Muslim ban" implies that Muslims aren't allowed. A restaurant that bans black people but still allows black people isn't really banning black people.

A supposed exception carved out for religious minorities isn't surprising, either. If the grounds for the policy is the "threat of radical islam" (and it's irrelevant if you think this is valid or not), then a christian or jew wouldn't be included as part of the threat. For the record, I'm completely against the policy on multiple grounds... but the rationale (religious minorities) makes sense in relation to the goal of the policy (which I think will fail anyway, personally).

This your first political catchphrase? Of course it's not perfectly nuanced. But it's not incorrect either. We're banning Muslims from certain countries.

[spurraider21]

This your first political catchphrase? Of course it's not perfectly nuanced. But it's not incorrect either. We're banning Muslims from certain countries.it's entirely inflammatory

[Spurminator]

it's entirely inflammatory

Justifiably so.

[DarrinS]

There's nothing wrong in principal with this temporary ban, but it wasn't well thought out. I think it was just to check off a box on his campaign promise list. By the way, making EVERYONE'S life miserable at the airport won't win over hearts and minds.

[spurraider21]

There's nothing wrong in principal with this temporary ban, but it wasn't well thought out. I think it was just to check off a box on his campaign promise list. By the way, making EVERYONE'S life miserable at the airport won't win over hearts and minds.i think there's a lot wrong in principal with the temporary ban. you can't just make that statement of fact

[DarrinS]

i think there's a lot wrong in principal with the temporary ban. you can't just make that statement of fact

First off, we both fucked up the use of "principle". :lol

[spurraider21]

First off, we both fucked up the use of "principle". :loli just got lazy and copied yours tbh. ur fault :lol

[Splits]

If you're banning all immigration from a subset of Muslim countries but allowing exceptions for non-Muslims, it is a "Muslim ban".

It is not, as Trump originally proposed, "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States".

But it is a "Muslim ban", whether it was from 1, 7 or all Muslim countries.

Rudy 9u1ian1 admitted it.

[DarrinS]

If you're banning all immigration from a subset of Muslim countries but allowing exceptions for non-Muslims, it is a "Muslim ban".

It is not, as Trump originally proposed, "a total and complete shutdown of Muslims entering the United States".

But it is a "Muslim ban", whether it was from 1, 7 or all Muslim countries.

Rudy 9u1ian1 admitted it.


"the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest — including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution"

[Spurminator]

"the Secretaries of State and Homeland Security may jointly determine to admit individuals to the United States as refugees on a case-by-case basis, in their discretion, but only so long as they determine that the admission of such individuals as refugees is in the national interest — including when the person is a religious minority in his country of nationality facing religious persecution"

What are you interpreting this passage to mean?

[DarrinS]

What are you interpreting this passage to mean?

People like Yazidis.

[Spurminator]

People like Yazidis.

Let's hope, but no evidence of that so far.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-immigration-iraq-minorities-idUSKBN15E1E9


More than one hundred Yazidis are waiting for their IOM asylum applications to be processed, Saib Khidr, a prominent Yazidi lawyer and human rights activist close to the Baba Sheikh, the top religious leader of the community.

A Yazidi woman was denied boarding a flight to the United States on Sunday, he said.

Khidr said he had hoped Yazidis would be among those given priority but was concerned that Trump only mentioned the persecution of Syrian Christians when asked about the issue in an interview with the Christian Broadcasting Network.

"We're disappointed," he told Reuters in Baghdad. "We're waiting for the American side to clarify its position."

[Spurminator]

Not that Trump even knows what Yazidi is.

[Splits]

Trump’s refugee ban is a matter of life and death for some, including a 1-year-old with cancer

By Kevin Sieff (https://www.washingtonpost.com/people/kevin-sieff/) January 30 at 9:24 PM

DADAAB REFUGEE CAMP, Kenya — They were deemed the most vulnerable cases: refugees suffering from medical conditions so *severe that normally their journeys to the United States would be expedited.

One is a 9-year-old Somali child in Ethiopia with a congenital heart disease that cannot be treated in a refugee camp. Another is a 1-year-old Sudanese boy with cancer. A third is a Somali boy with a severe intestinal disorder living in a camp that doesn’t even have the colostomy bags he needs.

After President Trump’s executive order (https://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2017/01/27/executive-order-protecting-nation-foreign-terrorist-entry-united-states)last week, their resettlement in America was put on hold. Now, the organization responsible for processing refugees in sub-Saharan Africa, Church World Service (http://cwsglobal.org/), says that order could be their death sentence.

The organization compiled an internal list of some of its most desperate cases, and it is urging the U.S. government to lift the suspension. “When you’re talking about a 9-year-old with congenital heart problems, a [delay of a] day is too long,” said Sarah Krause, the senior director of Church World Service’s immigration and refugee program. “It is unnecessary for these individuals to die while waiting for resettlement.”

The Office of the U.N. High Commissioner for Refugees said Monday (http://www.unhcr.org/en-us/news/press/2017/1/588f78ee4/unhcr-alarmed-impact-refugee-program-suspension.html)that 20,000 people in precarious conditions would be banned from traveling to the United States under the 120-day suspension on refu*gee admissions that was announced Friday.

The Trump administration said it stopped accepting refugees (https://www.washingtonpost.com/video/politics/trumps-executive-order-on-refugees-explained/2017/01/27/9b08d0e8-e4fd-11e6-a419-eefe8eff0835_video.html)temporarily to study ways to ensure that the new arrivals don’t pose a threat to the United States.
But the U.N. agency noted that the refugees it referred to the U.S. government for resettlement are highly vulnerable — including people in need of urgent medical assistance or survivors of torture.

About 80,000 people in sub-Saharan Africa are at some stage of the U.S. refu*gee process, which can take years to complete. Of those, about 2,000 are deemed “most vulnerable,” because of urgent medical problems or “extreme protection concerns” such as worries about their safety or well-being, according to Church World Service, which represents dozens of Protestant, Anglican and Orthodox religious communities and also works with refu*gee resettlement offices across the United States.
Its list offers a glimpse into the human lives affected by the executive order.

In addition to people with medical conditions, the list includes refugees who have endured horrifying cases of physical and psychological trauma. One is a young Somali woman who was raped multiple times by assailants. She is now living in a safe house in a neighboring country with a child who was conceived in one of those assaults, Krause said.

Many of the people on the list were days or weeks away from traveling to the United States. Some had already been through a cultural orientation program, which teaches refugees what to expect in America — like how to use public transportation and how to apply for a job. They had passed numerous interviews and security screenings.
“These are already the most thoroughly vetted of any individuals entering the United States,” Krause said.

One 38-year-old Somali woman that Church World Service added to its list is waiting at a small refu*gee transit center in Nairobi. Her name is Momina Hassan Aden. She had recently had a blood transfusion and was raising seven children alone, after her husband died last year.

She remained fragile, said other refugees, who did not know the details of her medical condition. She had spent the last four years at the Kakuma Refugee Camp (http://www.unhcr.org/ke/479-kakuma-refugee-camp.html), a sprawling facility in northwestern Kenya that is home to more than 150,000 people.

“There’s not enough health care for me there,” Aden said in a brief interview at the Nairobi transit center. She sat on the ground, surrounded by her children, who range in age from 1 to 12.

“We’re so worried about her,” said Mohammed Abdi, another refugee at the center.

Refugees like Aden are in a new kind of purgatory. They have already given up their tents and humanitarian supplies, because they assumed they would be traveling to the United States. Now, the same buses that brought them from their refugee camps might end up taking them back.

They would be treated as new arrivals — often sent to crammed communal tents, waiting all over again to receive a card that entitles them to food rations. In Kakuma, those rations were halved in December, as humanitarian organizations ran low on money as they struggled to respond to the global refugee crisis.

Because many of the refugees’ U.S. clearances will expire during the 120-day suspension, it could take them “months or even years to get to complete the process again,” Krause said.

Refugee organizations are frantically trying to find ways to save the lives of those who could suffer serious health problems or even die while waiting for the suspension to end. One possibility discussed was redirecting urgent cases from the United States to other countries.

The U.S. executive order allows the secretaries of state and homeland security to admit individuals as refugees on a case-by-case basis “in the national interest,” but it is not yet clear whether that would help the individuals on the Church World Service list. A call to the State Department for comment was not immediately returned on Monday.

Krause was distraught as she described her worries about the refugees.

“I don’t how else to take this but as a personal failure,” she said, choking up.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/trumps-refugee-ban-is-a-matter-of-life-and-death-for-some-like-a-1-year-old-with-cancer/2017/01/30/4c8e4aae-e711-11e6-903d-9b11ed7d8d2a_story.html?utm_term=.a06086335eeb

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https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/trumps-refugee-ban-is-a-matter-of-life-and-death-for-some-like-a-1-year-old-with-cancer/2017/01/30/4c8e4aae-e711-11e6-903d-9b11ed7d8d2a_story.html?utm_term=.a06086335eeb

Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah.

[boutons_deux]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/africa/trumps-refugee-ban-is-a-matter-of-life-and-death-for-some-like-a-1-year-old-with-cancer/2017/01/30/4c8e4aae-e711-11e6-903d-9b11ed7d8d2a_story.html?utm_term=.a06086335eeb

For the WH crew, the only good Muslim is a dead Muslim

[hater]

Nobody mentioned that most muslims banned are from highly Shia muslim populations. Not Sunnis. Sunnis are the sect that has the advanced terrorist networks: al qaeda, ISIS.

This ban is probably preparation for war vs the Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemeni alliance vs US and Saudi sponsored terrorist groups.

This has nothing to do with preventing terrorist attacks :lol

We going to war. Even Iran instantly testing their ballistic missiles is a huge sign

Shit is gone get real for real

[Splits]

Yeah, yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah.

You're a stain on humanity

[Splits]

Nobody mentioned that most muslims banned are from highly Shia muslim populations. Not Sunnis. Sunnis are the sect that has the advanced terrorist networks: al qaeda, ISIS.

This ban is probably preparation for war vs the Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemeni alliance vs US and Saudi sponsored terrorist groups.

This has nothing to do with preventing terrorist attacks :lol

We going to war. Even Iran instantly testing their ballistic missiles is a huge sign

Shit is gone get real for real

I thought we avoided WW3 on 9 Nov?

[Thread]

Nobody mentioned that most muslims banned are from highly Shia muslim populations. Not Sunnis. Sunnis are the sect that has the advanced terrorist networks: al qaeda, ISIS.

This ban is probably preparation for war vs the Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemeni alliance vs US and Saudi sponsored terrorist groups.

This has nothing to do with preventing terrorist attacks :lol

We going to war. Even Iran instantly testing their ballistic missiles is a huge sign

Shit is gone get real for real

My fatigues are covered in mothballs and will need letting out, but, I'll take my place on the line just like I did in the Delta.

[Thread]

You're a stain on humanity

And yet you took my "Splits" and went to Kori with it.

lmvictoriousao!!!

[hater]

I thought we avoided WW3 on 9 Nov?

We did. War vs isis and quaeda or iran/iraq/yemen/syria != war vs Russia

Plus I already said we probably postponed ww3 till further notice.

We still dodged a bullet with Shitlery

[Splits]

My fatigues are covered in mothballs and will need letting out, but, I'll take my place on the line just like I did in the Delta.

http://i.imgur.com/MMikBZl.png

[Splits]

We did. War vs isis and quaeda != war vs Russia

Plus I already said we probably postponed ww3 till further notice.

We still dodged a bullet with Shitlery

Yeah. You just claimed we're going to war with Iran and in the next breath say that is against ISIS/AQ?

Pick a fucking lane.

Oh wait, it's hater. He picks every lane and claims victory at first chance.

[hater]

Yeah. You just claimed we're going to war with Iran and in the next breath say that is against ISIS/AQ?

Pick a fucking lane.

Oh wait, it's hater. He picks every lane and claims victory at first chance.

Read my post again. Iran/iraq/yemen/syria you think war vs those = war vs Russia? :lol

[Splits]

Nobody mentioned that most muslims banned are from highly Shia muslim populations. Not Sunnis. Sunnis are the sect that has the advanced terrorist networks: al qaeda, ISIS.

This ban is probably preparation for war vs the Iran, Iraq, Syria, Yemeni alliance vs US and Saudi sponsored terrorist groups.

This has nothing to do with preventing terrorist attacks :lol

We going to war. Even Iran instantly testing their ballistic missiles is a huge sign

Shit is gone get real for real


We did. War vs isis and quaeda or iran/iraq/yemen/syria != war vs Russia

Plus I already said we probably postponed ww3 till further notice.

We still dodged a bullet with Shitlery


Read my post again. Iran/iraq/yemen/syria you think war vs those = war vs Russia? :lol

You're incoherent.

[hater]

We did. War vs isis and quaeda or iran/iraq/yemen/syria != war vs Russia

Plus I already said we probably postponed ww3 till further notice.

We still dodged a bullet with Shitlery

Read carefully.

Back on topic, all this is iust the price we are paying for 8 years of Obomba and 2 or s of Shitlery.

[Splits]

Read carefully.

Back on topic, all this is iust the price we are paying for 8 years of Obomba and 2 or s of Shitlery.


You're incoherent.

[hater]

Youre not a gery good reader

C- in 1st grade?

[Splits]

Youre not a gery good reader

C- in 1st grade?

I don't think "gery" is a word :lol How'd you do in the 1st grade? :lmao

I have cleared over $200k/year in earnings the past 6, so I must be doing something right.

[Splits]

826307519412838400

[boutons_deux]

Here's a film, apolitical, about the suffering and death of refugees fleeing the Repug/BigOil disaster in the M/E

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/exodus/

[hater]

I don't think "gery" is a word :lol How'd you do in the 1st grade? :lmao

I have cleared over $200k/year in earnings the past 6, so I must be doing something right.

Thats it??? :lmao what do you do shoeshine? My low level mules make more than that :lol

[boutons_deux]

US health care relies heavily on foreign workers. Trump’s immigration ban is raising alarms

President Trump's temporary immigration ban could quickly undermine American health care, which relies heavily on foreign-born labor - including many workers from the Middle East - to fill critical gaps in care, industry specialists say.

As many as 25 percent of physicians (http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/foreign-born-health-care-workers-united-states) practicing in the US were born in another country. Rural clinics and public safety-net hospitals, in particular, rely on foreign medical school graduates to take care of isolated and vulnerable populations. They often serve as primary care doctors, filling a vital need as more American-born MDs gravitate toward high-paying specialties.

And it's not just foreign doctors who are needed: A STAT review of visa requests found that employers seek to bring in thousands of occupational and physical therapists, dentists, pharmacists, and other health professionals each year. In 2014, the last year for which data is available, more than 15,ooo foreign health care workers, nearly half of them physicians and surgeons, received H-1B visas, which are designed to bring skilled labor into the US.

The data don't indicate how many foreign health care professionals come from the seven predominantly Muslim nations targeted by Trump's executive order, but health care executives say the Middle East is a crucial pipeline.

"I had trouble sleeping last night, to tell you the truth," said J.B. Silvers, a trustee of The MetroHealth System here in Cleveland and a professor of health care finance at Case Western Reserve University.

"If you go to almost any hospital, a community hospital or a teaching hospital, you will find a very substantial number of people from the Middle East," he said. "This is just mind-blowing."

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/us-health-care-relies-heavily-on-foreign-workers-trumps-immigration-ban-is-raising-alarms/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

I'm sure Trash and his sociopaths took this "side effect" into consideration.

[TheSanityAnnex]

US health care relies heavily on foreign workers. Trump’s immigration ban is raising alarms

President Trump's temporary immigration ban could quickly undermine American health care, which relies heavily on foreign-born labor - including many workers from the Middle East - to fill critical gaps in care, industry specialists say.

As many as 25 percent of physicians (http://www.migrationpolicy.org/article/foreign-born-health-care-workers-united-states) practicing in the US were born in another country. Rural clinics and public safety-net hospitals, in particular, rely on foreign medical school graduates to take care of isolated and vulnerable populations. They often serve as primary care doctors, filling a vital need as more American-born MDs gravitate toward high-paying specialties.

And it's not just foreign doctors who are needed: A STAT review of visa requests found that employers seek to bring in thousands of occupational and physical therapists, dentists, pharmacists, and other health professionals each year. In 2014, the last year for which data is available, more than 15,ooo foreign health care workers, nearly half of them physicians and surgeons, received H-1B visas, which are designed to bring skilled labor into the US.

The data don't indicate how many foreign health care professionals come from the seven predominantly Muslim nations targeted by Trump's executive order, but health care executives say the Middle East is a crucial pipeline.

"I had trouble sleeping last night, to tell you the truth," said J.B. Silvers, a trustee of The MetroHealth System here in Cleveland and a professor of health care finance at Case Western Reserve University.

"If you go to almost any hospital, a community hospital or a teaching hospital, you will find a very substantial number of people from the Middle East," he said. "This is just mind-blowing."

http://www.rawstory.com/2017/01/us-health-care-relies-heavily-on-foreign-workers-trumps-immigration-ban-is-raising-alarms/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

I'm sure Trash and his sociopaths took this "side effect" into consideration.




"The data don't indicate how many foreign health care professionals come from the seven predominantly Muslim nations targeted by Trump's executive order"

:lol rawstory

[TheSanityAnnex]

826307519412838400
He's an American citizen, why is he crying? What is the backstory here?

[boutons_deux]

More People Affected By Travel Ban Than White House Initially Claimed

During a press conference Monday, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said that only 109 people were impacted by the order at airports over the weekend.

However, Kevin McAleenan, the acting commissioner of the CBP said on Tuesday that the U.S. denied entry to 721 travelers and granted waivers to more than 1,000 people letting them into the U.S. as of Monday. These numbers differ greatly from those Spicer told reporters on Monday.

John Kelly, the secretary of homeland security, attempted to explain the discrepancy to reporters on Tuesday, saying that Spicer was using numbers from "early on" in the implementation of the order. Kelly said that the government can only provide numbers with about 24 hours delay.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/white-house-detainee-order-numbers-discrepancy?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Will lying asshole correct the number? Will Fox? Will any racist, bigoted right wing hate media?

[boutons_deux]

Travel ban throws research, academic exchange into turmoil

Universities across the nation say President Donald Trump's ban on travelers from seven Muslim countries is disrupting vital research projects and academic exchanges in such fields as medicine, public health and engineering, with untold numbers of scholars blocked from entering the U.S.

For years, schools in the U.S. have worked to widen exchanges with scholars in the Middle East and especially Iran, known for its strength in math and science.

But many academics worry those bridges are now in jeopardy because of the ban against Iran, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Libya and Yemen. Some fear the U.S. will lose its standing as the world leader in research and innovation.

"It's terrifying," said Sarah Knuckey, director of the Human Rights Clinic at Columbia Law School. "We're damaging international research, including on issues like health and medicine."

https://phys.org/news/2017-01-academic-exchange-turmoil.html

[boutons_deux]

As Cousin Vinnie would say, "Wait. There's More"

Trump Admin Considering Plan To Target Immigrants Receiving Public Assistance

President Donald Trump's administration is considering a plan to deny admission to the United States to immigrants who would likely require public assistance, and set standards for deporting those already in the country who "become a public charge," according to two leaked draft executive orders.

The orders were published (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-administration-circulates-more-draft-immigration-restrictions-focusing-on-protecting-us-jobs/2017/01/31/38529236-e741-11e6-80c2-30e57e57e05d_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_eoimmigration-120pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.7bb6445cea7d) on Tuesday by the Washington Post.

"Households headed by aliens are much more likely than those headed by citizens to use Federal means-tested public benefits," one order reads (http://apps.washingtonpost.com/g/documents/national/draft-executive-orders-on-immigration/2315/), while providing no evidence to support that claim.

The order would "deny admission to any alien who is likely to become a public charge" based on factors such as whether the immigrant is likely to receive "public benefits for which eligibility or amount is determined in any way on the basis of income, resources, or financial need."

It would also set standards to determine whether an immigrant already living in the United States would be deportable "for having become a public charge within five years of entry."

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/trump-administration-considering-plan-to-target-immigrants-public-assistance?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

[DarrinS]

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Why is he crying? He's an American citizen, right?

Maybe he saw a headline somewhere that said "Muslim Ban" and he got confused.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why is he crying? He's an American citizen, right?

Maybe he saw a headline somewhere that said "Muslim Ban" and he got confused.

Giuliani was in on the meeting and stated that Trump was looking for a way to make a Muslim ban legal in the EO. Maybe youre just obtuse as usual.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Travel ban throws research, academic exchange into turmoil

Universities across the nation say President Donald Trump's ban on travelers from seven Muslim countries is disrupting vital research projects and academic exchanges in such fields as medicine, public health and engineering, with untold numbers of scholars blocked from entering the U.S.

For years, schools in the U.S. have worked to widen exchanges with scholars in the Middle East and especially Iran, known for its strength in math and science.

But many academics worry those bridges are now in jeopardy because of the ban against Iran, Iraq, Syria, Somalia, Sudan, Libya and Yemen. Some fear the U.S. will lose its standing as the world leader in research and innovation.

"It's terrifying," said Sarah Knuckey, director of the Human Rights Clinic at Columbia Law School. "We're damaging international research, including on issues like health and medicine."

https://phys.org/news/2017-01-academic-exchange-turmoil.html



:lol untold numbers of scholars
:lol USA losing its standing as world leader in research and innovation in 120 days

[Clipper Nation]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/donald-trump-1/2017/01/29/isis-radicals-see-trumps-executive-order-blessed-ban

Jihadist groups on Sunday celebrated the Trump administration's ban on travel from seven Muslim-majority countries, saying the new policy validates their claim that the United States is at war with Islam.

Comments posted to pro-Islamic State social media accounts predicted that President Donald Trump's executive order would persuade American Muslims to side with the extremists. One posting hailed the U.S. president as "the best caller to Islam," while others predicted that Trump would soon launch a new war in the Middle East.
Are we supposed to believe that they wouldn't be celebrating if Hillary got in and opened the borders wide like Europe? No matter what we do, those zealots will twist it to fit their agenda. Even if we do nothing, they turn that into propaganda:

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[Spurminator]

Why is he crying? He's an American citizen, right?

Maybe he saw a headline somewhere that said "Muslim Ban" and he got confused.

Y'all know when you're granted citizenship that doesn't mean any immediate family members still living overseas are also granted citizenship, right?

[Spurminator]

Giuliani was in on the meeting and stated that Trump was looking for a way to make a Muslim ban legal in the EO. Maybe youre just obtuse as usual.

Also Trump campaigned on a Muslim ban and has called it a ban in his own tweets.

But yeah, let's fall over ourselves over semantics, he's certainly proven to have good intentions so far.

[ElNono]

So a new amendment is unlikely. Well then.

Executive order, bam. Barry loved it, Trump is even more fast-finger with it than Barry already it seems. Let's see

You can't overrule a Constitutional right by law. An EO has the same force as a law. That makes the law/EO 'unconstitutional'.

It's amending the Constitution or nothing.

[spurraider21]

You can't overrule a Constitutional right by law. An EO has the same force as a law. That makes the law/EO 'unconstitutional'.

It's amending the Constitution or nothing.
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[ElNono]

https://i.imgflip.com/1iqpb5.jpg

Well, you know how this works. He issues the EO, order gets stayed, goes through the courts, dismissed as unconstitutional. The whole point of Amendments is that not even a SCOTUS majority can overrule them.

[spurraider21]

Well, you know how this works. He issues the EO, order gets stayed, goes through the courts, dismissed as unconstitutional. The whole point of Amendments is that not even a SCOTUS majority can overrule them.I know, unless the executive departments begin defying court orders...

[ElNono]

I know, unless the executive departments begin defying court orders...

They could, but it would be, at worst, temporary. Plus it would be a giant dump on democracy and the Constitution.

Then again, maybe they can use it to flare up potential support for an amendment. The numbers are not there right now though.

[SnakeBoy]

Giuliani was in on the meeting and stated that Trump was looking for a way to make a Muslim ban legal in the EO. Maybe youre just obtuse as usual.

Fake news as usual

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Well, you know how this works. He issues the EO, order gets stayed, goes through the courts, dismissed as unconstitutional. The whole point of Amendments is that not even a SCOTUS majority can overrule them.

If the SCOTUS majority swells to 6-3 GOP, they won't dismiss it as unconstitutional

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I know, unless the executive departments begin defying court orders...

Which opens up its own can of worms. Trump doesn't have the full support of his party and the Dems are united against him. He does something impeachable I can see the GOP thinking that the remainder of the term with Pence would be a much better thing.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fake news as usual

This just your reflexive response when you read something you don't like?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGOwEOTYfuE

It's from your echo chamber so you cannot cry liberal media either.

[DarrinS]

It's fun watching the left go absolutely batshit crazy.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

It's fun watching the left go absolutely batshit crazy.

The above is 'crazy' to you? It reads to me like a political discussion.

You sure are desperate from some schadenfreude aren't you, e-cripple?

[boutons_deux]

It's a MUSLIM BAN
... except where BigCorp profits would be impacted

[DarrinS]

It's a MUSLIM BAN
... except where BigCorp profits would be impacted





Go with bigger font. And make it red, like HuffPo. Really drives the point home. :lol

[boutons_deux]

‘Why let ’em in?’ Understanding Bannon’s worldview and the policies that follow.

In November 2015, Stephen K. Bannon — then the executive chairman of Breitbart News — was hosting a satellite radio show. His guest was Rep. Ryan Zinke (R-Mont.), who opposed President Obama’s plan to resettle some Syrian refugees in the United States.

“We need to put a stop on refugees until we can vet,” Zinke said.

Bannon cut him off.

“Why even let ’em in?” he asked.

Bannon said that vetting refugees from Muslim-majority countries would cost money and time. “Can’t that money be used in the United States?” he said. “Should we just take a pause and a hiatus for a number of years on any influx from that area of the world?”

In the years before Bannon grabbed the world’s attention as President Trump’s chief White House strategist, he was developing and articulating a fiery populist vision for remaking the United States and its role in the world.

Bannon’s past statements, aired primarily on Breitbart and other conservative platforms, serve as a road map for the controversial agenda that has roiled Washington and shaken the global order during Trump’s first two weeks in office.

That worldview, which Bannon laid out in interviews and speeches over the past several years, hinges largely on Bannon’s belief in American “sovereignty.” Bannon said that countries should protect their citizens and their essence by reducing immigration, legal and illegal, and pulling back from multinational agreements.

At Breitbart, Bannon cemented his role as a champion of the alt-right, the anti-globalism movement that has attracted support from white supremacists and found a home on the far-right website.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-explained-his-worldview-well-before-it-became-official-us-policy/2017/01/31/2f4102ac-e7ca-11e6-80c2-30e57e57e05d_story.html?utm_term=.f81bbbff5b58&wpisrc=nl_most-draw7&wpmm=1

Maybe Bannon is a Pootin BoyToy, too, since Pootin and his empire building would LOVE America to break all its multi-national agreements and turn into fortress America, letting Pootin hack, subvert, befriend former American allies everywhere.

[SnakeBoy]

This just your reflexive response when you read something you don't like?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGOwEOTYfuE

It's from your echo chamber so you cannot cry liberal media either.

Fake story

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I don't know why Saudi Arabia wasn't included, tbh, they have some of the worst and scariest Sunni jihadists in the entire world including those who perpetrated 9/11 as well as being Bin Laden's birthplace and money ground.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't know why Saudi Arabia wasn't included, tbh, they have some of the worst and scariest Sunni jihadists in the entire world including those who perpetrated 9/11 as well as being Bin Laden's birthplace and money ground.

This is why:

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They wouldn't have been able to make this deal if Saudi Arabia was included.

[hater]

This is why:

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They wouldn't have been able to make this deal if Saudi Arabia was included.

Disagree. The safe zones was basically proposed by Saudi as it provides "safe zones" for their jihadi legions. They are the ones who would benefit more..

Obviously Sauds were not included because many of them own banks and corporations in US. Only insignificant 3rd world countries were included to basically make Trump lemmings happy. Cross the task as done. Iran was most likely included at the behest of Israel and Suaud

This ban has nothing to do with security but everything to do with pleasing the base and Israel/Saud

[DarrinS]

Lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYnE4mB4DME

[UNT Eagles 2016]

This is why:

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They wouldn't have been able to make this deal if Saudi Arabia was included.
So Trump is no different from Hillary, Billy and Obama. In bed with the terrorists for the benefit of more money. Buzzkill.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

The safe zones was basically proposed by Saudi as it provides "safe zones" for their jihadi legions.

Damn straight. Trump continues the alliance with Sunnism/ISIS so we don't have to drill more domestically and/or pay more abroad. He's just like the others. Buzzkill.

[Spurminator]

It's fun watching the left go absolutely batshit crazy.

Bro the right elected Donald Trump, you guys still have scoreboard on batshit crazy.

[DarrinS]

A rational take


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTXVAqU1OcE

[Clipper Nation]

Despite continuing protests and legal challenges, just over half of voters favor President Trump's temporary refugee ban, although there's a lot less concern about the threat of domestic Islamic terrorism.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 52% of Likely U.S. Voters favor a ban that keeps refugees from all countries from entering the United States for the next four months until there is a better system in place to keep out individuals who are terrorist threats. Forty-three percent (43%) are opposed.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/israel_the_middle_east/most_still_favor_refugee_freeze

[Clipper Nation]

http://i.imgur.com/dUf0P3f.png

http://i.imgur.com/Qnd6Veh.png

http://ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7561

[spurraider21]

Despite continuing protests and legal challenges, just over half of voters favor President Trump's temporary refugee ban, although there's a lot less concern about the threat of domestic Islamic terrorism.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone and online survey finds that 52% of Likely U.S. Voters favor a ban that keeps refugees from all countries from entering the United States for the next four months until there is a better system in place to keep out individuals who are terrorist threats. Forty-three percent (43%) are opposed.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/israel_the_middle_east/most_still_favor_refugee_freeze
:lmao polls
:lmao already forgetting about brexit and trumps election

[spurraider21]

http://i.imgur.com/dUf0P3f.png

http://i.imgur.com/Qnd6Veh.png

http://ipsos-na.com/news-polls/pressrelease.aspx?id=7561
:lmao trusting polls in 2017

[boutons_deux]

Kellyanne Goebbels made up a fake terrorist attack to justify Trump’s “Muslim ban”

In an interview with MSNBC’s Chris Matthews that aired on Thursday night, Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway managed to get two huge things wrong in a short, 19-second answer.

First, she said that the Obama administration banned Iraqi refugees from entering in the United States for six months in 2011 — which is flatly untrue (http://www.vox.com/world/2017/1/31/14444862/obama-refugee-ban-2011).

Second, and more significantly, she made up a terrorist attack committed by Iraqi refugees that never happened — the “Bowling Green Massacre”:

http://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/2/14494478/bowling-green-massacre

:lol

[boutons_deux]

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[boutons_deux]

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[boutons_deux]

Congressman runs from town hall as crowd chants ‘Shame on you!’

Republican California Congressman Tom McClintock just got chased out the back door by hundreds of protesters.

McClintock had been stealthily departing a raucous town hall during which he expressed support for President Trump’s travel ban of seven Muslim-majority countries, and had to be hurried to his vehicle by a team of officers. Protesters can be heard yelling “Shame!” at the congressman.

You can watch McClintock’s escape here:

http://usuncut.com/news/congressman-runs-town-hall-crowd-chants-shame-video/

[boutons_deux]

Now Donald Trump is Claiming His Muslim Ban is From Homeland Security

"What is our country coming to when a judge can halt a Homeland Security travel ban and anyone, even with bad intentions, can come into U.S.?"

http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/04/donald-trump-claiming-muslim-ban-homeland-security.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

[boutons_deux]

http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/14A37/production/_93953548_19c358c7-da9c-4b9a-b19d-9433a6db7494.jpg

[Winehole23]

travel ban draft list



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