***** The Official 2017 Avante Football Thread ***** [Archive] - Page 2

Avante

12-01-2017, 04:32 PM

School is in....

With veteran QB's like an Eli Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady there will come a time where it really is the beginning of the end, simply how it goes for all athletes.

With young cats we don't say shit the first few seasons, if ya know football. We take a wait and see approach. So to read some of you....HE SUCKS...over young QB's, yep....EL ROOKIE~~~~~~~~

Why some of you can't figure out it sometimes takes awhile to get it....???? Not everyone can be a Russell Wilson, Big Ben, Dan Marino.

Hell, where was Jared Goff in 2016, how about 2017?

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Scrambler Fran Tarkenton is STILL among the top10 QB's ever with TD/yards. So that ..extend plays,,,escape the pass rush...isn't new.

Avante

12-03-2017, 11:52 PM

So, who STILL doesn't get Russell Wilson? And, there will come a time when Brady, Brees and Big Ben are gone.Now think, ok?

Who but Russell Wilson could be 8=4 behind that o line?

What happens is this....

Wilson plays a great game like tonight...nothing. He plays another great game next week...nothing, then the following week he throws a costly pick.....and its....SEE SEE SEE HE SUCKS, YEP....STRUGGLE......hahahahaha~~~ Yep, that's how rookies act.

Wilson is the only QB IN NFL HISTORY to have a 4000 yd passing, 500 yard rushing, 30 TD's season. He is about to have another, yep.....he's doing things never seen before. Yet some of you ...STILL...don't get it.

NO BEASTMODE, NO LEGION of BOOM so what's he do.....beat the best NFC team.

Tonight we heard a couple guys who know football raving about the great Russell Wilson. Everyone who understands the game raves about the guy.

Avante

12-04-2017, 02:16 AM

Frank Gore is now the 5th All Time leading rusher in NFL history.

Emmitt Smith Florida
Walter Payton Jackson State
Barry Sanders Oklahoma State
Curtis Martin Pitt*****
Frank Gore Miami
Ladanian Tomlinson TCU
Jerome Bettis ND
Eric Dickerson SMU
Tony Dorsett Pitt
Jim Brown Syracuse

My Niners

QB...Joe Montana
RB....Frank Gore
RB....Roger Craig
WR,,,Jerry Rice
WRL..Terrell Owens
TE...Vernon Davis

What team compares to that?

***** Can't talk great QBs without Dan Marino, can't talk great receivers without Larry Fitzgerald, both from Pitt. Only school with two among the top 10 NFL rushers....Pitt.

Great RB (FB) duos (Ingram, Kamara inspired)

Csonka, Morris Miami
Taylor, Hornung GB
Casares, Galimore Chicago
Mack, Byner Cleveland
Lincoln, Lowe San Diego
Harris, Bliear Pitt
Brown, Mitchell Cleveland
Grange, Nagurski Bears
Snell, Boozer Jets

Avante

12-04-2017, 08:47 PM

So what QB would ya want if ya had a shit line and no running backs, yep............RUSSELL WILSON.

Imagine Tom Brady running for his life, ha~~~~~~~

Avante

12-05-2017, 01:00 AM

Best white RB per team if they had one. After 1960.

1000 yard rusher ***

Chargers...Keith Lincoln/Dickie Post did lead the AFC in rushing.
Raiders...Mark Van Eeghan***
Chiefs...Ed Podolak
Broncos...Rob Lytle
Pats....Craig James***
Bills..Wray Carlton
Jets...John Riggins***
Dophins...Larry Csonka***
Colts...Alan "The Horse" Ameche
Texans....nope~~
Oilers/Titans...Charlie Tolar***
Jags...Toby Gerhart
Steelers....Rocky Bliear***
Bengals...nope~~~
Browns...Patrick Hillis***
Ravens...nope~~~
Niners...Hugh "King" McElhenny
Rams..."Jaguar" Jon Arnett
Cards...John David Crow***
Saints...Gil Fenerty
Falcons...nope~~
Packers...Jim Taylor***
Lions...Nick Pietrasonte
Vikings...Bill Brown/Tommy Mason
Bears...Rick Casares***
Cowboys...Walk Garrison
Eagles...Tom Woodeshick
Giants...Frank Gifford
Redskins...John Riggins***
Panthers...Christian McCaffrey
Buc's...Mike Alstott......................did he have a 1000 yard season?
Seahawks...Dan Doornik

Avante

12-05-2017, 08:20 PM

Funny watching football fans on all these boards who played this stupid,,,,it's BEASTMODE, the LEGION OF BOOM, if not for them Wilson ain;t shit.

Those of us who actually know the game knew better than that, and now we are seeing what us experienced fans knew all along. Put Wilson on any team and he will...wow~~~~~~~~~

What gets me is just how obvious does it need to be? Hell, just watch the guy play, how can ya not see....IT...?

With no running game, the D no longer monstrous what do we have......MVP talk about Russell Wilson.

Why you rookies don't pay attention to long time football fans....?????

Avante

12-05-2017, 08:38 PM

I;ve always had this theory that Belichick prefers white players. He sees them as being smarter and less apt to get all excited and do stupid shit. No team has had more white receivers, and Belichick has never had a black QB.

Gronk did some stupid shit.

I get 70% of the players are black so....but. We see some totally stupid shit coming from black players. I saw it in HSball, city flag football. They are petrified of being shown up and got a real bad BAD case of macho.

Ever see any of those HBCU games, ya know Grambling vs Southern U. Soooooooooooooo many penalties, soooooooooooo many just ridiculous penalties.

Yes, white cats simply can't run*** so we must have those who can out there, yep....black athletes.

*** guys like Edelman, Beasley, Amendola, Wes Welker are more quick than fast. no white Tyreek Hills, he's fast.

Avante

12-06-2017, 08:42 PM

THINK

With no running game, no Legion of Boom, it's MVP talk.

And....if he'd been unleashed earlier he'd be doing the same things we see now.

Lke...Michaels, Collinsworth, Gruden, Gonzalez, Russillo, Bradshaw, Smith, Cowherd, Long, Johnson, Avante have said.....Russell Wilson is amazing.

Avante

12-11-2017, 09:20 PM

What cracksd me up about this place is all this...BOO. I don't dislike football player, why would I or anyone? All this running these guys down....why? Really....why?

There are how many HS;s playing football in this country? How about JC's? NAIA, and all the levels of college football. Anyone starting for an NFL team is an AMAZING player, ok rookies?

Virgil Green the TE is out of nearby Tulare HS. To watch him play in HS, yep...a grown man vs boys. And it's like that for all these NFLers. To run down that...1%...of all football players, why?

Saw Green drag four wanna be tacklers from the 10 to score, yep...dragged them.

Cam Newton is an amazing talent as is Russell Wilson, why would anyone wanna run these two "exciting" athletes down? Who is more exciting?

Avante

12-11-2017, 09:47 PM

Rex Burkett reminds me of the Chiefs Ed Podolak, anyone remember him? Of course not.

Avante

12-12-2017, 10:15 PM

I do expect to see this formation.

A 240 pound TE/FB taking the snap from behind the center and two 300 pounders right behind him for the push, talking goal line, short yardage.

Darth_Pelican

12-12-2017, 11:44 PM

Cluck Cluck

Avante

12-13-2017, 02:09 AM

Grow up little guy, ok?

I just try and talk football, ok?

Stop acting like a fucking asshole, ok?

Avante

12-13-2017, 02:50 AM

So which teams have their best QB ever right now?

Lions
Packers....soon.
Giants
Falcons
Panthers
Saints
Seahawks
Chargers
Steelers
Patriots
Ravens

Avante

12-13-2017, 03:11 AM

My Niners finally found a QB, cool. Now a couple drafts, a few stud free agents and maybe by 2020 we'lll be teasing a playoffs spot.

The Niners one of the top franchises in pro football history need to be in the mix.

So many great players.

Bob St. Clair
Leo Nomellini
Dave Wilcox
Jim Johnson
Ronnie Lott
Charles Haley
Joe Perry
John Henry Johnson
Hugh McElhenny
Y.A.Tittle
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Jerry Rice
Deion Sanders
Rod Woodson

All in the Hall of Fame

Now add...

Frank Gore
John Brodie
Gene Washington
Roger Craig

SpursforSix

12-13-2017, 12:01 PM

Avante

12-13-2017, 07:54 PM

LOL. Not including Patrick Willis on the list.

I totally agree...my bad.

Avante

12-13-2017, 10:11 PM

Imagine looking down and seeing a guy standing under the crossbar, he's there to jump up and block the kick, yep.....a Niner did that, and yep...he did knock a kick down.

The Niners the team that got the shotgun formation going.

Niner Joe Perry the first black RB to have a 1000 yard season. He was also the first RB to have consecutive 1000 yard seasons, and....only a JC education...Compton.

The Niners the first and only team to ever have three future HOF RB's all there together. And...a HOF QB.

Just think...Ronnie Lott, Deion Sanders, Rod Woodson all Niners.

How about...Jerry Rice, Randy Moss, Terrell Owens all Niners.

There was a time our QB was Y.A.Tittle our stud RB J.D.Smith*** and out best WR R.C.Owens...ha~~~ Owens was a basketball player at Idaho, he was the one that blocked the field goal. Tittle throwing it up to Owens the....Alley Oop....pass.

*** first HBCUer (NCA&T) to have a 1000 yard season.

I don't talk about my team much, it's too painful. Such a great franchise now struggling to win 4/5 games, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

My Niner football card collection......amazing.

Avante

12-15-2017, 02:07 PM

How cool is this?

Idiots....it's BEASTMODE, it's THE LEGION OF BOOM, without them Russell Wilson ain't shit.

Then without BEASTMODE or THE LEGION OF BOOM, we are hearing/reading....MVP...talk.

Gotta love it, ha~~~~~

I've seen them all since the late 50's, so why do I rave about Wilson, well? Yes, he is something.......SPECIAL...and if ya knew the game you'd know this. Hell.....just watch the guy play.

No QB in NFL history has thrown more TD passes in a 4th quarter.

No QB in history put up 100 QB rating in their first two seasons.

No QB in history has had a 4000/30/500 season and he's about to have his second.

No QB in history has won more games in their first six seasons.

Very safe to say he is the best passer/runner to ever play the game.

Only black QB to play in two SB's.

Avante

12-17-2017, 02:23 AM

I talked about Tarik Cohen while at NCA&T, I talked about Tyreek Hill, Derrick Henry and Nick Chubb.

Keep an eye on this guy, he played for Tulare Union HS (I was born in Tulare) and on his way to UCLA.(as of right now)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IGPLsMRS2aU

The HS video of Noel Devine and Reggie Bush......amazing. And there was a white cat out of Texas named Sam McGuffie, his HS video.....wow~~~

Avante

12-18-2017, 04:14 AM

Russell Wilson voted to yet another pro bowl, and another NFL record setting season.

What a shame the guy has no line, no running back, and his defense is injured. As we saw with an actual team....SB...bound.

When the players vote on the best 100 players in the NFL this season, what.......10-12-15?

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What if ny Niners had had Jimmy G back in week one, what.....7...wins? The guy is looking like he's the real deal.

Avante

12-19-2017, 12:20 AM

Would ya believe?

Todd Gurley was a stud hurdler in HS?

Robert Woods the top HS 400m sprinter in the USA?

Sammy Watkins a Florida State 200m champion while in HS?

Julio Jones is not the best WR from Alabama?

Gale Sayers has an older brother faster than he was?

Walter Payton had a brother play NFL football?

Ezekial Elliott was a stud hurdler in HS?

The first player in NFL history to spike the football once beat Bob Hayes in a NAIA 200m?

The Giants drafted 1964 Olympic 200m gold medalist who was also an ASU cornerback to run with the Cowboys Bob Hayes? (they were good friends)

The first Cowboy to have a 1000 yard rushing season was an Ivy Leaguer? A long jumper.

The first Raider to have a 1000 yard season was a dumped Niner?

The first Patriot to have a 1000 yard season was an NCAA wrestling champion?

The first Bill to have a 1000 yard season never played college football?

My cousin Eva Dean married the best friend of the first Ram 1000 yard rusher?

Avante

12-19-2017, 02:34 AM

When I buy the Carolina Panthers the first thing I do is put McCaffrey in the slot, this cat has to be out in space.

I make sure my D stays intact and Olsen retires a Panther. I will be looking to dump Newton but he'll never know it. If I get the deal I want I will get us a QB who isn't an embarrashment.

I'll be looking to sgn mostly Power Five conference players, those used to big time football. I'll be looking for football fans, guys who love football. Guys who can talk football. Not looking for those into it for just the $$$$$$$$.

As we know southern football is the most passionate, I'll be giving the fans something to be passionate about.

Avante

12-20-2017, 11:08 PM

Todays Alabama team would totally manhandle those Lombardi Packer teams of the 60's, they would destroy them. Todays players are far bigger, faster and stronger. Jim Taylor and Paul Hornung couldn't break 4.6 in a 40 and neither could Carroll Dale and Boyd Dowler their WR's. Willie Wood and Herb Adderley vs 4.4 cats, not good.

There are HS lines today that are bigger than those 70's Steelers lines. And HS kids far faster than Swann and Stallworth.

So we can play....dominance of era....and that will work and really is how it should be done, what we can't do is try and say someone back in the day is better than these cats today.

Don Hutson was the most dominant player for his position in football history, his numbers were three times better than his fellow receivers, he was on a whole other level. While at Alabama he ran a 9.8 100 yard dash, that was cooking in his day especially for a white cat, but......that is a 10.8ish 100m today, Tyreek Hill runs a 10.1.

So when I see somebody trying to compare eras, why?

I will say this.....Bob Hayes would have been the fastest players every single season, there has never been anyone on an NFL field faster, his 10.06 on a dirt track in 1964. WOW~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Darrel Greens 10.08 was ran under far better conditions. Deion Sanders never broke 10.26.

Avante

12-21-2017, 11:30 PM

Hopefully Jared Goff, Blake Bortles have shown the rookies why I preach...slow down. Look at the improvements.

Sometimes it will take some time for a guy to get it, not everyone is Big Ben, Russell Wilson.

Give these guys three seasons, if it isn't working heading into season four, ok now it's....?????

SpursforSix

12-22-2017, 11:49 AM

Avante

12-22-2017, 12:16 PM

But you still defend Osweiler.

I defend everybody, only rookies .....HE SUCKED....without giving a cat some time.

Heading into his 4th (I think it was ) season O.J.Simpson was getting....bust???? then guess what? Carl Garrett a RB out of New Mexico Highland (Pats) was the Rookie of the Year in Simpson's rookie season, what happened to him? RGIII a rookie of year, what happened?

What is so hard about simply slowing down and see how things go, what ;s the big rush to.....HE SUCKS..HE'S GREAT?

Hall of Famers....John Unitas, Len Dawson, Steve Largent, Don Maynard were all cut.

I will say.....check out Tyreek Hill....because of the potential.

SpursforSix

12-22-2017, 12:56 PM

I defend everybody, only rookies .....HE SUCKED....without giving a cat some time.

Heading into his 4th (I think it was ) season O.J.Simpson was getting....bust???? then guess what? Carl Garrett a RB out of New Mexico Highland (Pats) was the Rookie of the Year in Simpson's rookie season, what happened to him? RGIII a rookie of year, what happened?

What is so hard about simply slowing down and see how things go, what ;s the big rush to.....HE SUCKS..HE'S GREAT?

Hall of Famers....John Unitas, Len Dawson, Steve Largent, Don Maynard were all cut.

I will say.....check out Tyreek Hill....because of the potential.

How many seasons do you want to give Osweiler?

Avante

12-22-2017, 01:21 PM

How many seasons do you want to give Osweiler?

He's been in too many different systems to close the door on him. If ya knew the game you'd know this.

I do get the feel he's not going to be a starting a QB. But, I have no reason to.....HE SUCKS...knowing what I do about this game.

SpursforSix

12-22-2017, 02:19 PM

He's been in too many different systems to close the door on him. If ya knew the game you'd know this.

I do get the feel he's not going to be a starting a QB. But, I have no reason to.....HE SUCKS...knowing what I do about this game.

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/30/30acc4289731fc9d504991120ab7fd68628253e512ad8f2826 b5949e83d785df.jpg

Avante

12-22-2017, 02:36 PM

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/30/30acc4289731fc9d504991120ab7fd68628253e512ad8f2826 b5949e83d785df.jpg

I simply get how important time is in all sports, as ya mature you'll figure things out.

SpursforSix

12-22-2017, 02:42 PM

I simply get how important time is in all sports, as ya mature you'll figure things out.

https://i0.wp.com/mustsharenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/funny-gif-little-asian-girl-screaming.gif?resize=300%2C200&ssl=1

Avante

12-22-2017, 03:39 PM

https://i0.wp.com/mustsharenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/funny-gif-little-asian-girl-screaming.gif?resize=300%2C200&ssl=1

Why this need to act stupid?

Clipper Nation

12-22-2017, 08:19 PM

He's been in too many different systems to close the door on him.
:lmao

Avante

01-02-2018, 11:10 PM

Well we found out just what Russell Wilson can do without an offensive line or a running game and a less than GRRRRRRR D. How about...

Another NFL record.....most TD passes in the 4th quarter in a season.

He was 18 yards short of another 4000/30/500 season, yep, another NFL record he owns.

He led the NFL with 34 TD passes. (3 rushing-37)

Another pro bowl.

No QB in history has won more games in their first six seasons than Russell Wilson.

Now with a stud running game. a monster D.....Superbowl winner, without any of that....NFL TD leader, MVP talk. Taking his passing and rushing yards, who had more, well?

SpursforSix

01-03-2018, 11:51 AM

Avante

01-03-2018, 09:26 PM

Who gives a fuck if you don't make the playoffs. Being behind and throwing passes on prevent D. Big deal. He's got one Superbowl. Just like Doug Williams.

Well let's see....

Philip Rivers
John Unitas
Fran Tarkenton
Jim Kelly
Dan Fouts
Matt Ryan
Matthew Stafford
Cam Newton
Dan Marino
Tony Romo
Warren Moon

...never won a SB.

Wilson the only black QB to play in two SB's.

Wilson the only 4000/30/500 QB, and the only back to back 100 ratings in his first two seasons. (one pass away from havlng the second 4000/30/500 season in history)

In 2015 he led the NFL with his 110.1 rating and this season he leads the NFL with his 34 TD's.

How many pro bowls has the guy been voted to?

So who won more games in their first six seasons than Russell Wilson, yep, nobody.

If we take playoff success, stats, winning, who did it better with six seasons of NFL experience, well?

Just think, all these playoff teams ....

Jags
Titans
Chiefs
Panthers
Vikes
Eagles
Falcons
Rams
Bills

....would rather have Russell Wilson running the show.

Avante

01-04-2018, 12:44 AM

1000 yard rushers while a Niner.

Joe Perry Compton JC...first black to have a 1000 yard season (first player to have consecutive 100 yard seasons)
J.D.Smith NCA&T...first HBCU athlete to have a 1000 yard season
Delvin Williams Kansas
Wendell Tyler UCLA
Roger Craig Nebraska
Garrison Hearst Georgia
Charlie Gardner Tenn
Ricky Watters ND
Frank Gore Miami

Niner legend and the best "white" RB ever Hugh "King" McElhenny (HOFer) never had a 1000 yard season. Here we had a speedy, elusive, agile white RB, yep...unique.

The Niners were the team that took the Shotgun formation to a new level.

Only team to ever have a player block a field goal while standing under the goal posts. (former Idaho basketballer R.C.Owens)

Only team to have three future HOF RB's all there together. (HOF QB also)

Only team to have a world record holding hurdler (Renaldo Nehemiah) and a world record holding sprinter (Ray Norton).

A legendary franchise with a lot of history.

One of their many forgotten studs....Abe Woodson******

Wiki

As a kick returner, there were few who were better. Of all kick returners in NFL history, his average of 28.7 yards per return is well ahead of any others who have returned over 5000 yards worth of kicks. He had 193 returns for 5538 yards. He was also dangerous on punt returns, averaging 9 yards a return in his prime with the 49ers. He ranks 21st in career return yards, and his 28.7 average yards per return still ranks 4th all time. Combining his punt and kick return yards, he ranks 34th.

****** Stud hurdler while at Illinois

SpursforSix

01-04-2018, 10:24 AM

Just think, all these playoff teams ....

Jags
Titans
Chiefs
Panthers
Vikes
Eagles
Falcons
Rams
Bills

....would rather have Russell Wilson running the show.

Doubtful

Avante

01-04-2018, 11:21 PM

Doubtful

Saw one of those football talk shows today. Kurt Warners top five QB;s for 2017....Wilson number five. The public had Wilson at number four. He is in another pro bowl.

Why would any of those teams prefer the QB they have over Russell Wilson (obviously talking if he had the time to learn the system, yep...fantasy)

Avante

01-04-2018, 11:46 PM

So I'm watching UCF playing Auburn, when this UCF cat comes out of nowhere to...WHAM! I thought...damn! Then a couple plays later here comes this guy out of nowhere to ...WHAM!...the QB. Then I notice.......the guy is missing a hand.

I've seen a lot of football, this is a first. And, this is a real player, I have no doubts he gets an NFL look.

Dempsey was just a kicker.

Cal/Jets receiver Wesley Walker (9.5 sprinter) was legally blind in one eye. Great player.

Avante

01-05-2018, 01:25 AM

This is what the fastest HS kid in the nation looks like playing football.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzTETykr8kQ

Putting his 10.15 in perspective, the great Bob Hayes ran a 10.06 to win an Olympic gold medal.

The Rams have the nations top (while in HS) HS 400m cat in Robert Woods (passed on track at USC) and a Florida State 200m champ in Sammy Watkins catching footballs. Todd Gurley a HS hurdler. Austin also a track guy.

SpursforSix

01-05-2018, 10:44 AM

Saw one of those football talk shows today. Kurt Warners top five QB;s for 2017....Wilson number five. The public had Wilson at number four. He is in another pro bowl.

Why would any of those teams prefer the QB they have over Russell Wilson (obviously talking if he had the time to learn the system, yep...fantasy)

You have to look at each of those teams separately and their schemes. I agree that several would rather have Wilson. But why would the Falcons with that running game (and talented receivers) want a bail out QB? Or the Rams and Eagles who have what looks like a true star QB?

SpursforSix

01-05-2018, 10:52 AM

This is what the fastest HS kid in the nation looks like playing football.

Putting his 10.15 in perspective, the great Bob Hayes ran a 10.06 to win an Olympic gold medal.

The Rams have the nations top (while in HS) HS 400m cat in Robert Woods (passed on track at USC) and a Florida State 200m champ in Sammy Watkins catching footballs. Todd Gurley a HS hurdler. Austin also a track guy.

He looks great. But take into account, he goes to a small school and is playing other small schools.

His speed speaks for itself and he looks like a great college prospect.

But don't put too much in watching videos of him playing schools that might have only a few hundred high school students.

Avante

01-05-2018, 01:33 PM

You have to look at each of those teams separately and their schemes. I agree that several would rather have Wilson. But why would the Falcons with that running game (and talented receivers) want a bail out QB? Or the Rams and Eagles who have what looks like a true star QB?

Imagine the Falcons, Rams adding a mobile QB as just another weapon. Anytime a D faces a guy ho can hurt you with his legs, it's now.....run? pass? that is a whole other deal than knowing it's a pass.

Wilson is more accompished than any of the QB's on the teams I mentioned.

Avante

01-05-2018, 01:43 PM

He looks great. But take into account, he goes to a small school and is playing other small schools.

His speed speaks for itself and he looks like a great college prospect.

But don't put too much in watching videos of him playing schools that might have only a few hundred high school students.

And Hall of Famers Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, Charlie Joiner, Willie Brown, Aeneas Williams, Buck Buchanon, Deacon Jones, Leroy Kelly, Shannon Sharpe, Willie Davis, Bob Hayes all played for HBCU schools. Ya know those teams that lose to LSU, Arkansas, etc 70-10. Hell, Terrell Owens Chattanooga, the Raiders first 1000 yard rusher Clem Daneils played at Prairie View, the Chiefs greatest WR Otis Taylor also Prairie View. The Niners first 1000 yard rusher Joe Perry....Compton JC.

SpursforSix

01-05-2018, 02:05 PM

Imagine the Falcons, Rams adding a mobile QB as just another weapon. Anytime a D faces a guy ho can hurt you with his legs, it's now.....run? pass? that is a whole other deal than knowing it's a pass.

Wilson is more accompished than any of the QB's on the teams I mentioned.

If you've already got weapons and a good QB, there's no reason to subject him to the potential injuries associated with being a runner. That's a recipe for short lived success.

SpursforSix

01-05-2018, 02:09 PM

And Hall of Famers Jerry Rice, Walter Payton, Charlie Joiner, Willie Brown, Aeneas Williams, Buck Buchanon, Deacon Jones, Leroy Kelly, Shannon Sharpe, Willie Davis, Bob Hayes all played for HBCU schools. Ya know those teams that lose to LSU, Arkansas, etc 70-10. Hell, Terrell Owens Chattanooga, the Raiders first 1000 yard rusher Clem Daneils played at Prairie View, the Chiefs greatest WR Otis Taylor also Prairie View. The Niners first 1000 yard rusher Joe Perry....Compton JC.

what???? you just posted a video of a high school kid and now you want to talk about kids from black colleges?

Was trying to have a normal conversation with you but you're too retarded.

Avante

01-05-2018, 02:19 PM

If you've already got weapons and a good QB, there's no reason to subject him to the potential injuries associated with being a runner. That's a recipe for short lived success.

Wentz, Watson, Prescott aren't runners? That is where the position is heading.

I've been on defense facing a mobile QB, it's a whole other deal than knowing ....he can't run. The first problem is having to peak into the backfield to see if the QB is still there. now when trying to cover a receiver it's a hassle.

Avante

01-05-2018, 02:21 PM

what???? you just posted a video of a high school kid and now you want to talk about kids from black colleges?

Was trying to have a normal conversation with you but you're too retarded.

Point

Small schools mean nothing. I should have known you wouldn't get it. And American Heritage the school the kid is from has over 2800 students.

SpursforSix

01-05-2018, 02:25 PM

Wentz, Watson, Prescott arent runners? That is where the position is heading.

The ones that have long careers will be the ones that figure out how to stay in the pocket and utilize their weapons. Unfortunately, the hard part is understanding the game and not everyone will grasp it.
Of the three above, I think Wentz will have the best career by a long shot.

SpursforSix

01-05-2018, 02:39 PM

Point

Small schools mean nothing. I should have known you wouldn't get it. And American Heritage the school the kid is from has over 2800 students.

They have 2800 kids from K-12.

And my point was that when you watch videos, you need to take into account he's usually not playing against similar talent.

Avante

01-05-2018, 02:57 PM

The ones that have long careers will be the ones that figure out how to stay in the pocket and utilize their weapons. Unfortunately, the hard part is understanding the game and not everyone will grasp it.
Of the three above, I think Wentz will have the best career by a long shot.

The point you're missing is this....

It all starts in at the HS level and those kids will only be there they 4 years, then off to college for a 3-4 season career. And at that level we are seeing runners at the QB position, just watch Alabama Monday. So nobody cares about longevity and this is what the NFL is getting now. If you want a QB chances are he has some wheels, because that's what the HS/colleges want.

Avante

01-05-2018, 02:58 PM

They have 2800 kids from K-12.

And my point was that when you watch videos, you need to take into account he's usually not playing against similar talent.

Why are you telling me this? Where did I rave about his football prowess?

He's off to Auburn.

Avante

01-05-2018, 08:17 PM

Watching a replay of the Rams vs Cowboys game, did ya know both Gurley and Zeke were stud HS hurdlers?

So what other running backs can say that?

Milt Campbell was a world class hurdler, and an Oly decathlon Champin, he played a few seasons with the Browns prior to Jim Brown.

Hugh "The King" McElhenny was a Cali State hurdlers champion.

Paul Lowe the Chargers first 1000 yard rusher was a stud HS hurdler.

Tyrone Wheatley ran the hurdles at Michigan.

Roger Craig ran the hurdles, not sure he ran track while at Nebraska.

Avante

01-08-2018, 01:52 AM

There are HS lines out there today that average over 300 pounds. We have HS kids running times that would have won the Olympics past. Bigger and stronger and faster. This is why in todays football yiu wiull need a legit athlete playing the QB position. Defenders are just too quick to have a cat who can't evade a psass rush.

I follow HS football, trust me, we are seeing more and more black QB's and white guys like a Baker Mayfield who can motor. Guys who can't break a 5.00 in the 40. good luck. YES YES ....but what about Tom Brady, Drew Brees? When are we going to see their like again, if ever.

Bortles can scoot, Mariota can run, Watson, Wilson, Wentz, Rodgers, Taylor, Smith, Newton, Winston, can all motor. And as we lose Eli, Brady, Big Ben watch who replaces them.

The HS 100m record is a 10.00 held by Trendarvis Friday, that beats every Olympics up to 1980. Bob Hayes had a 10.06PR.

Avante

01-11-2018, 05:43 PM

Every time we see one of these 5-11 QB's with mobility what do we hear, yep......Russell Wilson makes it work.

That Alabama QB will be .....Russell Wilson makes it work......ha

Avante

01-11-2018, 09:42 PM

What do all these NFL players have in common?

Milt Campbell
Bo Roberson
Bob Hayes
Frank Budd
Gerald Tinker
Ray Norton
Johnny Jones
James Jett
Sam Graddy
Willie Gault
Larry Burton
Ron Brown
Michael Bates
Henry Carr
Ollie Matson
Stone Johnson

Darth_Pelican

01-11-2018, 11:15 PM

Chirp Chirp

Avante

01-11-2018, 11:28 PM

My God guy are you really this messed up? Dude, grow the fuck up, ok?

You enter my thread to act retarded, why?

spurraider21

01-12-2018, 12:39 AM

Cluck Cluck

Avante

01-12-2018, 12:53 AM

Cluck Cluck

Dude, do your friends know ya act like this? Come on guy, aren't you a bit old for that?

Avante

01-12-2018, 01:48 AM

It must suck knowing somebody here knows all this stuff and you don't, huh?

So what college did these footballers attend?

Hiawatha Francisco
Fair Hooker
Haven Moses
Pervis Atkins
Cyril Pinder
Israel Lang
Altie Taylor
Hewritt Dixon
Elvis Peacock
Moses Denson
Mackinley Dillingham
Gloster Richardson
Golden Richards
Elbert "Golden Wheels" Dubenion

spurraider21

01-12-2018, 03:41 AM

aren't you a bit old for that?
Is this what you tell 18 year olds?

SpursforSix

01-12-2018, 11:02 AM

Avante

01-12-2018, 03:45 PM

Is this what you tell 18 year olds?

Aren't you bored with that silliness by now, everyone else is.

Avante

01-12-2018, 03:46 PM

You've masturbated while thinking of them.

I have never masturbated.

Avante

01-12-2018, 03:47 PM

I need somebody to make me....

**** Avante 2018 Football Thread ****

Avante

01-15-2018, 03:36 AM

The reason every team needs a speed receiver is what we saw with the Vikes. You MUST have somebody who can go the distance from anywhere on the field, something a possession receiver can't do.

Adam Thielan the white WR (go with a TE if need be) for the Vikes got me thinking.

Best white WR per team.

Niners...Dwight Clark
Rams...Tom Fears/"Crazy Legs" Hirsh both in the HOF
Seahawks...Steve Largent HOF
Cards...Bobby Joe Conrad
Saints....Dan Abramoweicz
Falcons....?
Panthers...Greg Olsen
Buc's...?
Packers...Boyd Dowler
Bears....Mike Ditka HOF
Vikes....anyone better than Thielan?
Lions....Yale Lary
Redskins...Jackie Smith
Cowboys...Jason Witten
Eagles...Tommy McDonals HOF
Giants...Del Shofner
Chargers....Lance Alworth HOF
Raiders...Fred Biletnikoff HOF
Chiefs...Fred Arbansas
Broncos...Steve Watson
Steelers...Gary Ballman
Ravens...hmmm?
Bengals....Chris Collinsworth
Browns...Dante Levelli HOF
Colts...Ray Berry HOF
Titans/Oilers...Charlie Hennighan .....this cat was great.
Jags....hmmm?
Texans...???
Pats...Wes Welker
Jets...Don Maynard HOF
Bills...Bill Miller
Dolphins...Howard Twilley

That was done off the top of my head so I might be wrong, what do you have?

Won't go way back because we had no black receivers long ago.

White WR combo's from 1960 to present.

Packers...Boyd Dowler/Carroll Dale
Jets....Don Maynard/George Sauer
Chargers...Lance Alworth/Gary Garrison
Cards...Bobby Joe Conrad/Sonny Randle
Oilers...Charlie Hennighan/Bill Groman a 9.5 sprinter

spurraider21

01-15-2018, 11:56 AM

Avante

01-15-2018, 01:23 PM

:lmao football historian
:lmao doesn't have DON HUTSON

Why don't I have Don Hutson?

spurraider21

01-15-2018, 01:29 PM

Why don't I have Don Hutson?
:lmao boyd dowler ahead of don hutson

Avante

01-15-2018, 01:46 PM

:lmao boyd dowler ahead of don hutson

I know, I actually have Hutson on my All Time team with Rice. Nobody ever dominated their position vs era like he did.

Never make lists half drunk.

Avante

01-15-2018, 02:03 PM

I had Vikes vs Pats in the SB before the playoffs started. Sticking to that.

Floyd Pacquiao

01-15-2018, 02:05 PM

What do all 4 quarterbacks left have in common?

Avante

01-15-2018, 02:11 PM

What do all 4 quarterbacks left have in common?

???

Floyd Pacquiao

01-15-2018, 02:17 PM

???

They all have a top 10 defense playing behind them :toast

spurraider21

01-15-2018, 05:06 PM

What do all 4 quarterbacks left have in common?
they're not tony romo?

Avante

01-15-2018, 08:01 PM

They all have a top 10 defense playing behind them :toast

Now I'm curious as to how often this has happened in the past.

Avante

01-17-2018, 12:50 AM

Avante

01-19-2018, 12:11 AM

Speed in pro football, love the topic.

Don Hutson is considered by all those who know the game to be right there with Jerry Rice when it comes to the greatest WR's. The thing about Hutson was his 9.8 speed vs white cornerbacks. He never had to face 4.3 cats because he never played vs black cornerbacks. I know of no track speedy cornerbacks in the days of Don Hutson.

Same story with Jim Thorpe and Red "The Galloping Ghost" Grange, they never faced speedy black athletes.

The first real speed was tiny Buddy Young all 5-4 170 pounds of him, he was an NCAA/AAU 100 champ out of Illinois. He showed up in the 40;s. He was the first quick, elusive, speedy black running back in the pro game.

The Big Ben Stevenson story a must read. Yep, Google it.

Avante

01-19-2018, 10:55 PM

Christian Coleman (the NCAA champ then) who beat Usain Bolt last season in the World Champs has just broke the WR in the 60m sprint, he ran a 6.37, breaking the 6.39 by the great Mo Greene.

The guy broke the NCAA 100m record last season.

He has been timed in...4.12...in the 40, that is supernatural, outerwordly,

He did play HS football.

Avante

01-20-2018, 12:28 AM

Let's take his best numbers from his first six seasons of NFL Football and make a fantasy season.

Tom Brady

comp%...63.9
yards...4,110
TD...28
QB rating..92.6

Russell Wilson

68.1
4,219
NFL leading....34
NFL leading....110.1

Oh hell yes, no franchise QB there, hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~

Avante

01-21-2018, 01:08 AM

It would be cool if you guys took a few minutes and actually checked things out just a little bit, ok?

The numbers Wilson has put up in his first six seasons.....special.

Avante

01-22-2018, 11:12 PM

I can't think of the Eagles and not think....

Steve Van Buren a stud RB who played at LSU in the early 40's. imagine a black athlete at LSU in the 40's.

Timmy Brown a shifty, multi talented, all purpose RB out of Ball St.

Harold Carmichael a 6-7 WR out of Southern U.

Chuck Bednarik...grrrrrrr~~~

Wilbert Montgomery their greatest RB.

Cyril Pinder a 9.4 sprinter out of Illinois.

Harold Jackson....a blurrrrrrr...out of Jackson St.

Reggie White/Jerome Brown

Donovan McNabb

Multi talented Brian Westbrook out of Villanova.

Avante

01-24-2018, 01:38 AM

PLEASE PLEASE..don't get all silly early in the game with the Eagles up 17-3, ok little people? The Pats shuck n; jive, then get their shit together at halftime then come out and.....WIN~~~~~~~~~~~

Who will be that know nothing acting like a retarded monkey if the Eagles get up 14? I think I know.

Avante

01-24-2018, 02:06 AM

Watching a replay of the Pats vs Jags game.

That fumble by Lewis really could have gone either way. If the refs were wanting the Pats to win then why give the ball to the Jags?

Avante

01-24-2018, 01:42 PM

James Patterson has a book out about the life of Aaron Hernandez. Hmmmmm?

SpursforSix

01-24-2018, 01:56 PM

Vikes

QB...Fran Tarkenton
RB...Adrian Peterson
RB...Chuck Foreman
WR...Cris Carter
WR...Randy Moss

vs

Eagles

QB...Donovan McNabb
RB...Wilbert Montgomery
RB...Brian Westbrook
WR...Harold Carmichael
WR...Tommy McDonald

Hmmmm?

My Niners

QB...Joe Montana
RB....Frank Gore
RB....Joe "The Jet" Perry
WR...Jerry Rice
WR...Terrell Owens

Who beats that?

As Hall of Famers Steve Young, Hugh "King" McElhenny sit on the bench. Hell, Roger Craig.

Cowboys

Staubach/Aikman
Smith/Dorsett (and likely Elliott)
Hayes/Irvin

Steelers

Bradshaw/Ben
Bell/Bettis
Brown/Ward

And that's off the top of my head. My guess is there are a handful of teams to compare.

Avante

01-24-2018, 02:09 PM

Cowboys

Staubach/Aikman
Smith/Dorsett (and likely Elliott)
Hayes/Irvin

Steelers

Bradshaw/Ben
Bell/Bettis
Brown/Ward

And that's off the top of my head. My guess is there are a handful of teams to compare.

Colts

Peyton/Unitas
Edgerrin James/Lenny Moore
Ray Berry/Marvin Harrison

We are talking HOF caliber here.

Obviously all the teams have their best but only those we have mentioned can have HOFers at every position.

Close

Raiders

Stabler
Allen/Jackson
Brown/Biletnikoff

Redskins

Jurgenson
Riggins/Portis
Monk/Mitchell

Hmmmm?

SpursforSix

01-24-2018, 02:27 PM

Colts

Peyton/Unitas
Edgerrin James/Lenny Moore
Ray Berry/Marvin Harrison

We are talking HOF caliber here.

Obviously all the teams have their best but only those we have mentioned can have HOFers at every position.

You can do it with the Raiders albeit it's weaker than anything we've discussed and requires an exception

Stabler/Blanda
Jackson/Allen ( I realize Jackson isn't HOF but...)
Brown/Biletnikoff

Avante

01-24-2018, 02:32 PM

You can do it with the Raiders albeit it's weaker than anything we've discussed and requires an exception

Stabler/Blanda
Jackson/Allen ( I realize Jackson isn't HOF but...)
Brown/Biletnikoff

As you can see, ya read my mind.

Why Cliff Branch isn't in the HOF? His career far superior to Lynn Swann a HOFer.

Bo Jackson belongs in any All Time, just like Gale Sayers. Here it really is.....the hell with numbers/stats.

close

Packers

Starr/Favre/Rodgers
Taylor/Hornung
Lofton/Driver

This one works

Rams

Van Brocklin
Faulk/Dickerson
Fears/Hirsh

As does this one...

Graham
Brown/Motley/Kelly
Levelli/Warfield

Close

Chargers

Fouts
Tomlinson/Lowe
Alworth/Joiner

Avante

01-24-2018, 02:47 PM

What teams has had four HOF RB's other than my Niners? (Gore will be, Perry, McElhenny, Johnson are HOFers, won't count O.J.that was a joke))

Avante

01-24-2018, 03:04 PM

One of the great offenses of all time that gets little if any props.

50's Rams

Norm Van Brocklin and Bob Waterfield

One of the first big powerful black RB duos...Tank Younger and Deacon Dan Towler

Two Hall of Famers to be receivers...Tom Fears and Elroy "Crazy Legs" Hirsch.

SpursforSix

01-24-2018, 03:25 PM

What teams has had four HOF RB's other than my Niners? (Gore will be, Perry, McElhenny, Johnson are HOFers, won't count O.J.that was a joke))

I'd guess one of the very old teams. I can think of three from the Bears...Payton, Sayers, and Grange. But there's probably some other old time player.

Avante

01-24-2018, 03:30 PM

I'd guess one of the very old teams. I can think of three from the Bears, Payton, Sayers, and Grange. But there's probably some other old time player.

You nailed it, yep, Bronko Nagurski who teamed up with Grange. I do use RB but back in the days FB's were primary rushers like Jim Brown, Jim Taylor, Nagurski etc.

Grange/Nagurski
Perry/McElhenny/Johnson
Taylor/Hornung

Future HOFers there together.

Avante

01-24-2018, 03:51 PM

The thing about history is the size you have with an interest. My NFL starts in 1920 yep...the first season, so it's HUGE, MASSIVE and COMPLETE. I need this, I want it all so I have it all. To not know the origins of things that interest me, I can't do it the curiousity would be too much.

Interesting tid bits like...

When Bears RB Beattie Feathers had the first 1000 yard season in NFL history, he averaged over 8 yards a carry or was it 9, think about that.

The thing with the internet is how badly people want/need to....let me check that out see if he's WRONG. It is funny.

Other football historians have proposed something more sinister: The NFL may have purposely pumped up Feathers' production to turn him into an easier-to-promote superstar.
Feathers was clearly gaining a lot of yardage, but he missed the final two games of the 1934 season, plus the championship game, with an injury. League officials, so the story goes, figured he was close enough to 1,000 to add a yard here and a yard there to totals no one was keeping track of anyway.
The Feathers record used to be a huge deal among football historians. Back when most football research was done by microfiche and stapled-together newsletter, giants of the field like Bob Carroll, David Neft and Mark Purcell would duke it out in sometimes nasty debates. Few of those battles were ever digitized, and those who peruse old statistics at all generally accept the 119-carry, 1,004-yard, 8.4-yard-per-carry figures (http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/chi/1934.htm) that Neft codified during the glory days of ink-and-paper sports encyclopedias.
The pre-Neft numbers were 101-1,004-9.94; it was those numbers Dr. Z felt had to contain some return yardage

All that stuff is found in books, books read long before there was the internet.Google.

Avante

01-24-2018, 04:14 PM

Imagine an NFL team called....Kardex....haha~~~

The Tonawanda Kardex.....gotta love it.

Hell, Kansas City Cowboys.

The 1925 (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/1925_NFL_season) Kansas City Cowboys (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Kansas_City_(NFL)) season was their second in the league (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/National_Football_League) and first as the Cowboys. The team improved on their previous output (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/1924_Kansas_City_Blues_season) of 2–7, losing only five games.[1] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-1) They finished thirteenth in the league

Avante

01-24-2018, 05:24 PM

Just think....

Give Russell Wilson a stud RB/defends he will win the SB. Give him a shit team, he's in the MVP talk.

Avante

01-25-2018, 05:14 PM

WWE honcho Vince McMahon is going to start up another football league.

My advice.

Fuck replays, fuck being overly concerned with safety, allow holding on kick/punt returns. And....no field goals outside the 20.

Zero in on the HBCU for players, there and the NAIA, small schools. Let the NFL have the big school cats.

Talking about at the start. Give the fans....speedy players (smaller) no long breaks with replays, not much on safety, and the hell with flags on every kick/punt...........hell, hold.

All point afters....two point trys.

Fresno could support a team, tons of towns from Modesto to Bakersfield.

Avante

01-28-2018, 06:00 AM

Hmmmmmmm?

I once saw the national champion flag football team wax a team of NFLers*** (Marino QB)in a flag game. The champs were 160 pound types, who were on a whole other quicks level than the NFLers. If I'm McMahan I'm looking for a smaller quicker athlete.

*** yes it meant far more to the flag champs than the NFLers. But the difference in quicks was dramatic.

Avante

01-29-2018, 10:36 PM

They really do need to dump the pro bowl as far as actually having the game. Sure vote on who should be there then leave it at that.

I don't watch the game, but did come across it today on the NFL Network (gave it 5 minutes). It's just way too obvious..."let's not get hurt out here, ok? No fun spending the off season injured"....so anyone not playing along is a jerk.

Avante

01-30-2018, 03:37 AM

The game was so much better back in the day than it is today, SOOOOOOOOOO much better. First off there were only 14 NFL teams, now think. The more teams we have the less talent we see per team. Imagine a 14 team leagur today, every team would have a legit QB.

Nobody cared much about safety or IT MUST BE RIGHT. If a guy got mashed on the field......so what, it's football. The refs made the call, if wrong....fuck it...move on. It'll all even out.

You wouldn't dare take a knee back then, your teammates ain;t playing that wimpy ass shit, fuck your problems, play football.

The games didn't stop every fifth play to check anything out, keep it rolling. The kickers couldn't kick it out of the endzone so we had the kickoff return. We didn't have fake grass so we saw the real deal. Everything about the game was better.

There weren't any 300 pounders so we saw better athletes on the lines. Guys weren't as muscular so we saw more quickness.

The greatest RB you've never heard of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVRsSvziIJI

The reason Galimore never had a 1000 yard season was because the Bears had a stud fullback named Rick Casares, he did have a 1000 yard season. First stud RB out of U of Miami.

Jim Brown was better than anyone playing today, Bob Hayes was faster than anyone, Dick Butkus on a whole other level of bad. The amazing Gale Sayers***, nobody today compares. Lance Alworth was incredible.

*** his older brother Roger (160 pounds) was a world class sprinter. Once beat Hayes in a 100 yard dash. Gale led the nation in the long jump as a HSer. (vs HSers)

USA Rankings

1962

1....................... Bob Hayes
2......................Frank Budd
3...................Roger Sayers
4....................... Henry Carr
5..................... Dave James

Budd played for the Eagles, Carr for the Giants.

Avante

01-30-2018, 04:09 AM

Things would work better if ya just cooled this silly.....how can I prove him wrong.....and just learned some things.

Seen a lot of football, trust me, ok? Hell...Ron "Chunky" Coleman, Israel Lang, Cyril Pinder, "Jaguar" Jon Arnett, Choo Choo Winters, Hewritt Dixon, etc etc etc.

Fabbs

01-30-2018, 08:15 AM

Things would work better if
https://i.imgur.com/91sn32Q.jpg?fb

Avante

01-30-2018, 11:51 PM

https://i.imgur.com/91sn32Q.jpg?fb

Let's talk about Morris Stroud the 6-10 KC Chief TE trying to block a fieldgoal, standing under the crossbar. Tell me who the kicker was. AND.....there was a cat who did block a fieldgoal standing under the crossbar....who?

Avante

01-31-2018, 12:46 AM

The AFL came into existence in 1960, they had a good decade.

This would be the All AFL offense.

QB...Joe Namath Jets (Len Dawson Chiefs?)
FB...Cookie Gilchrist Bills
RB...Paul Lowe...Chargers (Abner Haynes Chiefs?)
WR...Lance Alworth Chargers
WR...Don Maynard Jets
TE...Fred Arbansas Chiefs

One of the really exciting times in the sport.

Avante

02-03-2018, 02:24 AM

Trivia***************

1. First NFL 1000 yard rusher out of an Ivy League school?

2. Only Hall of Famer out of just a JC?

3. These two 1000 yard receivers played on the same JC team? (but it was another cat who was the star)

4. Who were...

The Truck
The Tank
Long Gone
The Bullet
The Hammer
Speedy
Super Gnat
Little Train
Thunder

I know....huh???

Avante

02-05-2018, 03:51 AM

Yep, nobody has a clue.

Anyway.....

PAC12 Power

Arizona QB
Oregon RB
USC WR

Starring for the Eagles.

As we know now that Foles has won a SB he becomes a great QB, yep just takes one game. So once he makes the HOF, he'll join...

Aaron Rodgers Cal (no doubt)
John Elway Stanford
Troy Aikman UCLA
Warren Moon Wash
Dan Fouts Oregon

Then there was....

Drew Bledsoe
Carson Palmer
John Brodie
Andrew Luck
Danny White
Mark Brunell

Avante

02-05-2018, 04:27 AM

Being Foles won a SB and the MVP.

I guess we'd have to put him above....

John Unitas
Fran Tarkenton
Dan Marino
Jim Kelly
Dan Fouts
Philip Rivers
Warren Moon
Tony Romo

....huh?

On a serious note.

If I'm the Eagles I'm doing all I can to work a trade Foles before reality has a chance to set in. Obviously Wentz is the future, and he really doesn't need Foles around.

The Eagles now join the rest of the NFC East as a SB champ.

That can't be said about...

NFC North (Lions/Vikes)
NFC West (Cards)
NFC South (Falcons/Panthers
AFC Nort (Bengals/Browns)
AFC South (Texans/Jags/Titans
AFC West (Chargers)
AFC East (Bills)

Darth_Pelican

02-05-2018, 11:48 AM

https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-05-2014/J60R_K.gif

Avante

02-05-2018, 10:08 PM

https://i.makeagif.com/media/11-05-2014/J60R_K.gif

I don't blame ya slick, what else can ya do?

Avante

02-07-2018, 02:28 AM

This Friday ESPN (I think) will run a special...

The HBCU and the NFL

Hopefully they go back to the beginings, with names like....

Marion Motley South Carolina State (Reno)
Paul "Tank" Ypunger who was the first Grambling player in the NFL.
Niner J.D. Smith NCA&T the first 1000 yard rusher from an HBCU school
Bob Hayes FAMU the first 1000 yard receiver from an HBCU school

Curious about how they will try an talk arounb the obvious difference in agility, quicks and size with speed.

All Time HBCU

QB...Steve McNair Alcorn
RB...Walter Payton Jackson St
RB...Leroy Kelly Morgan St
WR...Jerry Rice MVS
WR...Charlie Joiner Grambling
TE...Shannon Sharpe Savannah St

Avante

02-08-2018, 03:30 AM

Match the RB to his school

Wendell Hayes
Sid Blanks
Joe Delaney
Duane Thomas
Carl Garrett
Fred Jackson
Stump Mitchell
Chris Warren
Dick Bass
Hewritt Dixon

Florida A&M
UOP
Furman
NWLa
Humbolt
Texas A&I
New Mexico Highlands
Coe
West Texas State
The Citadel

Darth_Pelican

02-08-2018, 11:38 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/11R5KYi6ZdP8Z2/giphy.gif

Avante

02-08-2018, 12:52 PM

https://media.giphy.com/media/11R5KYi6ZdP8Z2/giphy.gif

translation

Must be pretty cool kinowing all that stuff Avante, but......could ya just keep it simple here, you know we don't get all that stuff, ok?

Avante

02-10-2018, 02:13 AM

When you watch this and hear the TV guys freaking out what are you thinking? You really cant see...IT....really?

Hopefully it's just this immature...well if Avante likes him I must run him down I..MUST. How could anyone not see the greatest there?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRyeFj7XsXY

Come on people, here we have a unique talent, and only a know nothing wouldn't see.....IT.

Don't be an idiot and ignore the fact I;m seen them all since the late 50's. Wilson is amazing.

This guy gets it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIarRljRIuo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ulNEYeLgC4

Avante

02-15-2018, 04:36 PM

I wear a Niner ball cap, now all of a sudden people wanna talk about them, ha~~~~ Yep, been awhile.

Usually goes something like this......

dude....playoffs next season.
Avante....tuff division ya know, the Rams are better, the Seahawks can play.
dude....we can beat them.
Avante...(knowing how fans are)....I hope you're right. I will say this, I do expect to be in the NFC Championship mix real soon. See ya~~~~

spurraider21

02-15-2018, 04:43 PM

is there any way to pin a thread to the bottom of the page?

Avante

02-15-2018, 04:48 PM

is there any way to pin a thread to the bottom of the page?

Dude, will you ever grow up and stop acting like some asshole?

I ....try....to talk football, not my fault we have so many immature/know nothing posters "here".

Avante

02-18-2018, 03:43 PM

Just read people, call all this a learning experience.

RB's and receiviers have always been speedy. Both Buddy Young 40's and Ollie Matson 50's were as fast as anyone playing right now. As was Bob Boyd, Bob Hayes. What is so dramatically different in todays game is the ....quicks....of the big guys. We didn't see that back in the day (Deacon Jones the exception). Speed, quicks with size is what really seperates the once upon a time players from what we currently see.

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One of the strangest situations is the punting of QB Sammy Baugh. He could punt today, which really is amazing.

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The above mentioned Buddy Young was 5-4 170 pounds, he won the NCAA/USA 100yds/m Championships. He was the roots to the tree, the first quick, fast, elusive black RB's, he was out of Illinois.

Darth_Pelican

02-18-2018, 04:11 PM

is there any way to pin a thread to the bottom of the page?

Avante

02-18-2018, 04:18 PM

Dude, this is a football forum, ok guy? Nobody gives a fuck about you or what you want, ok guy? I talk football, while youi get all caught up in bullshit, dude..................GROW THE FUCK UP...ok little man?

I need more than just....sure like my team.....who should we draft....etc. I need it all so I have it all, if you can't deal with that who gives a fuck....ok?

Football historian here, deal with it.

I will let both these 2017 threads die if somebody makes me a 2018 thread.