Tony Allen out indefinitely

[marinoman]

Left calf strain Source- bleacher report app

Not sure if it should have it's own thread but wtvr

[davidbowie]

griz in 7

[TheGreatYacht]

More open 3-pointers for DLeague Danny to miss!

[BatManu20]

Woj says Grizz coaches expecting that he'll be out for the entire series.

[Dex]

Welllll....that's helpful.

[Dex]

More open 3-pointers for DLeague Danny to miss!

You just can't stand to actually root for the Spurs, can you?

#FAKEFAN

[FkLA]

https://explainthejoke.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/broom.png

[spursistan]

a 35 yo dude playing in the last meaningless regular season game :lol..

big blow to Memphis.

Between Parsons contract, their shitty drafting and going all-in with the old and injury-prone Gasol/Conley core, the Grizzlies future look grim.

[daledondale]

Well, this can help the ugly Spurs guards situation.

[TheGreatYacht]

You just can't stand to actually root for the Spurs, can you?

#FAKEFAN
Truth hurts.

Since Jan 1st:
35.2FG%, 33.3 3P%

Against the Grizzlies this season:
35.3FG%, 20.0 3P%

[ElNono]

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tony-allen-flopping-vs-spurs1.gif

[Robz4000]

Well that's good news :tu

[BatManu20]

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tony-allen-flopping-vs-spurs1.gifLmao

[MaNu4Tres]

Okay changedvmy Spurs in 6 pr 7 to Spurs in 4 or 5.

[BillMc]

http://i.imgur.com/h7wkKBq.png

[rjv]

manu should go on record and tell the press allen is faking it.

[apalisoc_9]

That sucks. Another boring series.

Does nlt change my prediction of spurs in 5 but Leonard needs all the practice. Who's going to guard him now? James Ennis? :lol

[TD 21]

This should eliminate their chances of having this become an extended series, since their only real hope is grinding the Spurs' laboring offense to a halt.

As much of an offensive liability as Allen is, their wing depth was already poor and now it's pathetic. They should start Ennis, but it's possible Harrison or Selden might be starting a playoff game(s). :lmao

[Seventyniner]

https://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2013/05/tony-allen-flopping-vs-spurs1.gif

Never gets old.

[Hoops Czar]

That sucks. Another boring series.

Does nlt change my prediction of spurs in 5 but Leonard needs all the practice. Who's going to guard him now? James Ennis? :lol

Memphis played without Allen in the season finale between the two teams and the Spurs needed a buzzer beater by LMA just to get the game into over time.

[Darius Bieber]

Well.... I guess it's Grizz in 5 or 6 now instead of a sweep.

[UZER]

That sucks. Another boring series.

Does nlt change my prediction of spurs in 5 but Leonard needs all the practice. Who's going to guard him now? James Ennis? :lol

The series was already going to be boring.

[apalisoc_9]

The series was already going to be boring.

Sure..But watching a preimer Defender go up against Leonard was at least interesting..

[Mikeanaro]

He is pulling an Ibaka...

[sasaint]

http://i.imgur.com/h7wkKBq.png

"Who were those men in black uniforms, Boo Boo?"

[BillMc]

"Who were those men in black uniforms, Boo Boo?"
:lol

[Dex]

Truth hurts.

Since Jan 1st:
35.2FG%, 33.3 3P%

Against the Grizzlies this season:
35.3FG%, 20.0 3P%

The two arguments are completely non-sequitur.

This topic is about the Grizzlies losing their best perimeter defender, potentially for the whole series, which unarguably helps the Spurs.

Instead, you seem to think that it makes for a good opportunity to dog Danny Green's shooting percentages for no apparent reason.

It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby.

[bic50]

Memphis played without Allen in the season finale between the two teams and the Spurs needed a buzzer beater by LMA just to get the game into over time.
Doesn't mean much

[bic50]

Well.... I guess it's Grizz in 5 or 6 now instead of a sweep.
You can do better then this.

[MultiTroll]

Left calf strain Source- bleacher report app

Not sure if it should have it's own thread but wtvr
Threadwothy.
Muchos Gracias!

[james evans]

You just can't stand to actually root for the Spurs, can you?

#FAKEFAN
would you bet your life on Green actually hitting wide open jumpers in the playoffs? A simple "yes" or "no" will do

[DPG21920]

Tony Allen sucks now and in the playoffs SA can hide TP on him defensively. I actually think this makes MEM better.

[dabom]

Tony Allen sucks now and in the playoffs SA can hide TP on him defensively. I actually think this makes MEM better.
:lol

[Spurs da champs]

Tony Allen sucks now and in the playoffs SA can hide TP on him defensively. I actually think this makes MEM better.

True his offense is horrendous, but they let that dude play crazy physical in the playoffs. Good for Kawhi

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Allen doesn't move the needle in this series. Spurs in 4 or 5 regardless.

[TheRemix]

Spurs in 3

[DPG21920]

:lol

I'm being serious. Like it doesn't change my opinion that SA will whoop up on MEM but I think TA is a negative player in modern playoffs.

[dabom]

I'm being serious. Like it doesn't change my opinion that SA will whoop up on MEM but I think TA is a negative player in modern playoffs.

The refs always let that guy get away with a ton of shit all the time. He is a positive player for the Grizz. Also has nothing to do with modern era playoffs. :lol

[DPG21920]

The refs always let that guy get away with a ton of shit all the time. He is a positive player for the Grizz. Also has nothing to do with modern era playoffs. :lol

Yes it does. You cannot win playoff series with guys like Allen. He was basically the reason they got swept by SA. They were undermanned obviously but you can't win in modern NBA playoffs with a guy like him. Especially when teams now have time to game plan for him.

[DPG21920]

Omg :lol. I just looked at his playoff metrics last year and he was definitely a net negative :lol

[dabom]

Omg :lol. I just looked at his playoff metrics last year and he was definitely a net negative :lol

Kinda hard to have a raw positive plus minus when he was playing the fucking spurs with a depleted team. :lol

That would mean his advance numbers would also be negative. :lol

[DPG21920]

Kinda hard to have a raw positive plus minus when he was playing the fucking spurs with a depleted team. :lol

That would mean his advance numbers would also be negative. :lol

My man - his offense is so bad it clearly off sets his defense. Especially when game planned for. Being able to cheat off him and hide your worst defender on him is anti-gravity. He's very detrimental IMO in the new age.

[dabom]

My man - his offense is so bad it clearly off sets his defense. Especially when game planned for. Being able to cheat off him and hide your worst defender on him is anti-gravity. He's very detrimental IMO in the new age.

We're right back where we've started. :lol

And please stop spouting dumb shit. :lol

[DPG21920]

We're right back where we've started. :lol

And please stop spouting dumb shit. :lol

What's dumb about it? I can literally prove, with actual statistics, that what I'm saying is true. You may not agree because you are an eyeball test guy, but you cannot say it's dumb.

[dabom]

What's dumb about it? I can literally prove, with actual statistics, that what I'm saying is true. You may not agree because you are an eyeball test guy, but you cannot say it's dumb.

I'm saying throwing shit out to see if anything sticks. I'm pretty sure you can do better than "uhh he had negative impact dur dur dur". :lol

And no, I aint an eye-test guy. I actually use many metrics to evaluate value to a team.

[look_at_g_shred]

I'm saying throwing shit out to see if anything sticks. I'm pretty sure you can do better than "uhh he had negative impact dur dur dur". :lol

And no, I aint an eye-test guy. I actually use many metrics to evaluate value to a team.

Small part of the equation but dude has been a better defender by the eye test.

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol

[dabom]

Let me explain to ya dumbasses. I ain't an eye test guy. I'm an eye test, total production, per minute, impact, role and many other things. I hope that explains things for ya. :lmao

[dabom]

And don't try to get at me. :lol

It never works out well for the other guy. :lol

[DPG21920]

I'm saying throwing shit out to see if anything sticks. I'm pretty sure you can do better than "uhh he had negative impact dur dur dur". :lol

And no, I aint an eye-test guy. I actually use many metrics to evaluate value to a team.

What?

[dabom]

Omg :lol. I just looked at his playoff metrics last year and he was definitely a net negative :lol

[DPG21920]

I know what I said. I don't understand how you are trying to frame your argument though :lol. You even admitted you aren't surprised his numbers looked awful last playoffs :lol

[dabom]

I know what I said. I don't understand how you are trying to frame your argument though :lol. You even admitted you aren't surprised his numbers looked awful last playoffs :lol

Your assuming because he had a net negative rating, he was a negative player. :lol

[DPG21920]

Your assuming because he had a net negative rating, he was a negative player. :lol

:lol Now I know you are trolling. "I'm not an eye test guy" then quoted saying youre an eye test guy. "I'm a numbers guy" then gets told his statistics show him as a net negative and tries to argue against the numbers :lol

[dabom]

I just explained why your assumptions are wrong. :lol

Can anyone else tell this guy? :lol

[dabom]

:lol Now I know you are trolling. "I'm not an eye test guy" then quoted saying youre an eye test guy. "I'm a numbers guy" then gets told his statistics show him as a net negative and tries to argue against the numbers :lol

I clearly said I'm an all encompassing guy. :lol

[Robz4000]

Tony Allen being out is good for the fact that's one less (and the best for Memphis) Kawhi defender. Considering how important Kawhi is to the Spurs' offense I'd say it helps, regardless of how bad he is offensively on paper (he's had several high scoring games against the Spurs this season alone iirc).

[Dex]

would you bet your life on Green actually hitting wide open jumpers in the playoffs? A simple "yes" or "no" will do

What the fuck does one of these things have to do with another?

What does Tony Allen being injured have to do with me betting my life on Danny Green shooting a wide-open jumper?

I swear to God, some of you people just look for reasons to fucking bitch...lo0king for some half-assed, hare-brained reason to say "I told you so".

If you want a new team to root for, go find it. There are 29 other fanbases you could be annoying right now.

[MultiTroll]

Yes it does. You cannot win playoff series with guys like Allen. He was basically the reason they got swept by SA. They were undermanned obviously but you can't win in modern NBA playoffs with a guy like him. Especially when teams now have time to game plan for him.


What's dumb about it? I can literally prove, with actual statistics, that what I'm saying is true. You may not agree because you are an eyeball test guy, but you cannot say it's dumb.
Tony Allen started and played all 6 games vs Spurs in 2011.
:corn:

[look_at_g_shred]

Small part of the equation but dude has been a better defender by the eye test.

[Ice009]

This sounds like a bit of an over-exaggeration to me. Possibly even a bit of bullshit from the Grizzlies.

[Keepin' it real]

Tony Allen out indefinitely

For how long?

[DPG21920]

Tony Allen started and played all 6 games vs Spurs in 2011.
:corn:

Things in the NBA have changed since then. And TA was in his absoulte prime defensively where he probably outweighed his offensive deficiency then.

[spursistan]

Memphis are old and creaky-- the best first round match-up the Spurs could've hoped for. Their 2 best players are 3rd tier stars who lack the explosiveness element in their games. Their depth is mediocre and the defense has significantly slipped from its heydays in the early years of this decade..

At this point, if this series go beyond 5 games it would be more of a reflection of our own vulnerabilities and the persistence of uninspiring basketball the team has been playing since the All Star break.

[LittleCriminal]

Calf strain?? Tiago splitter says Hi!!

[dabom]

Calf strain?? Tiago splitter says Hi!!
I think you're mistaken. Tiago had a vagina strain.

[LittleCriminal]

I think you're mistaken. Tiago had a vagina strain.

Apparently it ran down his leg too..

[GSH]

The Spurs need to catch some breaks. This is a good place to start.

[dabom]

The Spurs need to catch some breaks. This is a good place to start.

The Spurs are acutally in a good bracket. Grizz and Hou/OKC without durant. Remember last year Westbrook was almost a non factor due to kawhi.

That's our best chances to go to the WCF. The WCF will be the real Finals.

[GSH]

The Spurs are acutally in a good bracket. Grizz and Hou/OKC without durant. Remember last year Westbrook was almost a non factor due to kawhi.

That's our best chances to go to the WCF. The WCF will be the real Finals.


I don't disagree. I think Memphis has/had the ability to play really physical and ugly up enough games to win the series. So I don't mind them losing Allen one bit.

I kind of like the idea of meeting the MVP in the second round, and having him put up triple doubles every game, and still lose. And I think the Spurs could beat anyone in the East, if they get that far. So, yeah, I agree with you that the WCF will be the real Finals - or at least should be.

But I'd laugh my ass off if Lillard goes crazy and beats GSW in the first round. As long as the Spurs are catching breaks, why not get a big one?

[dabom]

I don't disagree. I think Memphis has/had the ability to play really physical and ugly up enough games to win the series. So I don't mind them losing Allen one bit.

I kind of like the idea of meeting the MVP in the second round, and having him put up triple doubles every game, and still lose. And I think the Spurs could beat anyone in the East, if they get that far. So, yeah, I agree with you that the WCF will be the real Finals - or at least should be.

But I'd laugh my ass off if Lillard goes crazy and beats GSW in the first round. As long as the Spurs are catching breaks, why not get a big one?

I thought about that too. Only if curry goes down do I see that. :lol

[james evans]

What the fuck does one of these things have to do with another?

What does Tony Allen being injured have to do with me betting my life on Danny Green shooting a wide-open jumper?

I swear to God, some of you people just look for reasons to fucking bitch...lo0king for some half-assed, hare-brained reason to say "I told you so".

If you want a new team to root for, go find it. There are 29 other fanbases you could be annoying right now.
what it has to do with it is that Danny green is fuckign trash and he hasn't been able to hit open shots this season. Pointing it out doesn't mean we hate our team, it just means we got good fucking vision and have watched most of the games this season. What Tony Allen being injured have to do with it? Allen injured or not, it doesn't increase the chance of Danny Green hitting an open jumper which he hasn't consistently done in 3 seasons.

[Fireball]

good news

[cutewizard]

Spurs in four!!!!!

:claw

[JohnnyMax]

Grizzlies in 6.

[pgardn]

Left calf strain Source- bleacher report app

Not sure if it should have it's own thread but wtvr

What?

You dare indicate an inkling of humility in starting a thread. Not on ST. Mister.

Turn this into a proper thread by claiming you know Allen personally and then promptly follow this with a hate Parker, Manu, Patty statement. Then choose an emoticon a slow child would use.

[hater]

He will play in round 2

[Dex]

what it has to do with it is that Danny green is fuckign trash and he hasn't been able to hit open shots this season. Pointing it out doesn't mean we hate our team, it just means we got good fucking vision and have watched most of the games this season. What Tony Allen being injured have to do with it? Allen injured or not, it doesn't increase the chance of Danny Green hitting an open jumper which he hasn't consistently done in 3 seasons.

That's funny, I could've sworn that Danny was shooting .379 which is ABOVE the league average of .358.

And I'm sure that the Grizzlies missing their best perimeter defender won't have any effect on guys shooing from the perimeter.

Good fucking vision? You're a blind hater and it's obvious to everyone but yourself.

But go ahead, and keep bitching about things that (as you state) have nothing to do with the topic at hand.

[Venti Quattro]

If the Spurs lose this series without Tony Allen, they are worse than the Lakers, and should consider folding as a NBA franchise. Spurs in 5

[PopTheGOAT]

Grizzlies in 6.
Nice avi, faggot :lol Gonna be obsolete in a week though. Might as well start searching for a real nice Rockets avi lmao

[superbigtime]

his claim that manu faked his elbow fracture still pisses me off. what a c*nt. so sorry about your little calf muscle, c*nt.

[TheGreatYacht]

37.9% from three isn't good enough when that's literally the only thing you can do on offense :lol

Whether it's Harden, Curry, or Lebron. Teams from now on will hide their stars on Danny to get them some rest because of how god awful and a non-threat he is on that side.

As for the Grizzlies.... they'll get to hide 40yr old Vince Carter, Troy Daniels, and Wayne Selden on him.

[apalisoc_9]

38% on three is better than 50% on two. If he shoots more it evens out.

Another reason why i strongly advocate kawhi on the ball and Aldridge reduced to role player satuts. Perimeter scorers will always generate more threes.

[Joseph Kony]

Allen has been overrated for awhile but definitely better not having him out there throwing cheap shots at our players

[Darius Bieber]

inb4 Tony Allen pulls an Ibaka and comes back with a miracle recovery

[dabom]

Tony Allen sucks now and in the playoffs SA can hide TP on him defensively. I actually think this makes MEM better.

:lmao

[DPG21920]

:lmao

What's funny

[DPG21920]

:lmao

Funny how you aren't laughing now. Thought you were clever when SA was up 2-0, but now look what has happened. The non-shooting Tony Allen that really bogs down their offense isn't there and the role players getting minutes are hitting 3's at a higher clip than he would.

Obviously he would have helped on Kawhi (some) but its not far fetched to say at all that TA being out has opened the door for MEM to become a much much better offensive team (look at their offensive rating this series vs regular season).

[spursistan]

Yep.. Allen absence helped the Grizz on the offensive end..they put up a 111 OFF rating in game 3/4 with their shooters going 21/49 from 3PT..Floor is much more spaced for Conley to crave us up..

[DPG21920]

Yep.. Allen absence helped on the Grizz the offensive end..they put up a 111 OFF rating in game 3/4 with their shooters going 21/49 from 3PT..Floor is much more spaced for Conley to crave us up..

But but but the laughing emoji!

[dabom]

But but but the laughing emoji!

The series has been over before it even started. :lmao

[dabom]

I find it funny considering Kawhi has pretty much been unstoppable. Dude has been a juggernaut. The Spurs team is letting Kawhi down. The grizz would have a better chance over 7 games, but it was decided when he went down. :lol

[dabom]

Ya have the most fucking mainstream vanilla takes ever. :lmao

[DPG21920]

3 post triggered :lol