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Dverde
12-08-2020, 02:31 PM
This just in...beards over one inch are no longer allowed to help stop the spread of the virus.
Faggot ass Leonard starting all this shit. How is this league supposed to function if everyone is just a farm team for the Lakers and Nets? Back when star players had to wait for free agency it was still a risk to big market teams to have to clear space and hope they could sign them. Worked well for the Lakers going after LeBron but no so much the Knicks for example. But now you sign a guy to a contract and if he doesn't live up to it you're stuck with him, if he does live up to it he forces his way to a bigger market? Bullshit. I see no way team owners aren't going to force NFL style contracts on the league if star players aren't going to live up to their contracts. Leonard, George, Davis, Westbrook, Harden all forcing their way out while paid handsomely on multi-year deals is ridiculous. If players want to keep their options open do like Jordan did and sign one year deals, but having effective free agency while still getting guaranteed long term money is bullshit.
It's an insane amount of coddling. When a player signs a contract, he knows that being traded is a possibility. If he reads what he signs, he'd understand that the team is given the contractual power to ship his ass out. Those are the terms of the deal. That's what the guy gets paid millions of dollars for in return. With shit like Harden or Nephew, you have players, under the auspices of "player empowerment," essentially amending their contracts to add a reciprocal trade clause. With fiascos like what we've been seeing for the past few years, ownership is getting cucked with players essentially adding contractual terms that were never agreed upon by management in the first place. I'd love to see ownership do something, but I don't think it likely with the whole "player empowerment" bullshit they got going on. Unless the non-coastal owners really do something with the next CBA - which also seems unlikely - I don't see this changing anytime soon.
TD 21
12-08-2020, 04:21 PM
The thing is, organizations don't want to have to (attempt to) discipline superstars because they're worried about what that'll do to their reputations if/when they luck into one in the future. The players/agents know that, which is why they continue to push the envelope.
Blame the whole toxic culture from today's coverage to Durant to the Warriors, Scumbag's unethical antics, etc. These guys see certain ones who gamed the system, won contrived, tainted championships and artificially boosted their "legacy" off it and they don't want to be left behind, so they follow suit.
It's an insane amount of coddling. When a player signs a contract, he knows that being traded is a possibility. If he reads what he signs, he'd understand that the team is given the contractual power to ship his ass out. Those are the terms of the deal. That's what the guy gets paid millions of dollars for in return. With shit like Harden or Nephew, you have players, under the auspices of "player empowerment," essentially amending their contracts to add a reciprocal trade clause. With fiascos like what we've been seeing for the past few years, ownership is getting cucked with players essentially adding contractual terms that were never agreed upon by management in the first place. I'd love to see ownership do something, but I don't think it likely with the whole "player empowerment" bullshit they got going on. Unless the non-coastal owners really do something with the next CBA - which also seems unlikely - I don't see this changing anytime soon.
Yeah, they're the woke league of America (lol at using the term governors instead of owners) so I can definitely see the players, who are predominately black, continuing to get away with this in the name of wokeness.
poopbox
12-08-2020, 06:03 PM
Lot's of angry middle aged white men in this thread:lmao
buttsR4rebounding
12-08-2020, 09:59 PM
I thought it was cold as heck in Philly right now.
Not when you have COVID fever.
buttsR4rebounding
12-08-2020, 10:03 PM
Lot's of angry middle aged white men in this thread:lmao
Because only middle-age white men are the only ones who believe in honoring their commitments?
tonight...you
12-09-2020, 09:58 AM
Not when you have COVID fever.
Good point.
poopbox
12-09-2020, 03:17 PM
Because only middle-age white men are the only ones who believe in honoring their commitments?
James Harden signed a contract to play basketball for the National Basketball Association. What's the problem ?
exstatic
12-09-2020, 04:32 PM
James Harden signed a contract to play basketball for the National Basketball Association. What's the problem ?
No, he signed an NBA formatted and approved contract to play basketball for THE HOUSTON ROCKETS.
James Harden signed a contract to play basketball for the National Basketball Association. What's the problem ?
So much stupid. :lol
Prime BEEF
12-09-2020, 04:38 PM
No, he signed an NBA formatted and approved contract to play basketball for THE HOUSTON ROCKETS.
Yes, exactly this
BG_Spurs_Fan
12-10-2020, 12:51 AM
James Harden signed a contract to play basketball for the National Basketball Association. What's the problem ?
Wait, he gets his paychecks from Adam Silver?
Pl:lolyer f:lolns.
poopbox
12-10-2020, 02:19 PM
No, he signed an NBA formatted and approved contract to play basketball for THE HOUSTON ROCKETS.
So if Harden signed a contract to play for the Houston Rockets...
But then they wanted to trade him to Indiana...
Could Harden say no I signed that contract to play for the Houston Rockets I did not sign a contract to play for the Indiana Pacers ?
TD 21
12-10-2020, 06:10 PM
Lot's of angry middle aged white men in this thread:lmao
It's mroeso people are just disgusted with these insecure divas antics and groupthink, which can lead to getting cents on the dollar, setting your franchise back a generation and contrived championships for them.
Play a bunch of years for a dead end franchise and want to go somewhere where you have a chance to win, as long as it's handled professionally and the team can max out the return and the reaction would be different.
So if Harden signed a contract to play for the Houston Rockets...
But then they wanted to trade him to Indiana...
Could Harden say no I signed that contract to play for the Houston Rockets I did not sign a contract to play for the Indiana Pacers ?
:lmao trying to shit talk and literally not knowing who signs NBA contracts or how they work
timtonymanu
12-10-2020, 06:27 PM
It's mroeso people are just disgusted with these insecure divas antics and groupthink, which can lead to getting cents on the dollar, setting your franchise back a generation and contrived championships for them.
Play a bunch of years for a dead end franchise and want to go somewhere where you have a chance to win, as long as it's handled professionally and the team can max out the return and the reaction would be different.
Yep asking for some kind of professionalism, you know for the fans and team that pays your salary, means we’re being privileged? At the end of the day, these mfers have easy ass lives. Lol at “governors not owners.” Save that oppression shit for people that actually struggle.
Obi Juan Kenobi
12-10-2020, 06:39 PM
It's mroeso people are just disgusted with these insecure divas antics and groupthink, which can lead to getting cents on the dollar, setting your franchise back a generation and contrived championships for them.
Play a bunch of years for a dead end franchise and want to go somewhere where you have a chance to win, as long as it's handled professionally and the team can max out the return and the reaction would be different.
:tu
TD 21
12-10-2020, 06:53 PM
Yep asking for some kind of professionalism, you know for the fans and team that pays your salary, means we’re being privileged? At the end of the day, these mfers have easy ass lives. Lol at “governors not owners.” Save that oppression shit for people that actually struggle.
Money obviously makes a lot of things easier/better, but it doesn't solve/fix everything.
Sure, the superstars/stars aren't treated like pieces of meat, but the rank and file, who comprise the majority of the league, are, so I could understand them wanting the term changed.
That's why the agenda driven media's support of them and claim of "evening the playing field" and "two-way street" doesn't fly because the ones pulling this not only don't deal with that, but are catered to.
DeRozan m8
12-11-2020, 12:35 AM
So if Harden signed a contract to play for the Houston Rockets...
But then they wanted to trade him to Indiana...
Could Harden say no I signed that contract to play for the Houston Rockets I did not sign a contract to play for the Indiana Pacers ?
Are you seriously this level of retarded?
Put yourself down
HankChinaski
12-11-2020, 12:37 PM
The simple facts of the narrative here is a multi million dollar celebrity athlete is opting to no show for his lucrative paid job an not for fears of contracting a virus during a pandemic but to go out an behave as if one doesn't exist an feeling he should be in a better situation.
We all work jobs we either enjoy or disapprove of at the end of the day. Real people suck it up an do the the job they were hired for and when they have the opportunity to exit elsewhere they do so when their contract is up or in some people's cases inform their employer they are receiving offers elsewhere that you are heavily considering and if they wish to keep you there this is what they are offering.
What this individual is doing is the over privelaged think they deserve more than those around.
baseline bum
12-11-2020, 12:42 PM
The simple facts of the narrative here is a multi million dollar celebrity athlete is opting to no show for his lucrative paid job an not for fears of contracting a virus during a pandemic but to go out an behave as if one doesn't exist an feeling he should be in a better situation.
We all work jobs we either enjoy or disapprove of at the end of the day. Real people suck it up an do the the job they were hired for and when they have the opportunity to exit elsewhere they do so when their contract is up or in some people's cases inform their employer they are receiving offers elsewhere that you are heavily considering and if they wish to keep you there this is what they are offering.
What this individual is doing is the over privelaged think they deserve more than those around.
He has shown up to camp, he's not pulling a #2 any more.
HankChinaski
12-12-2020, 11:48 AM
He has shown up to camp, he's not pulling a #2 any more.
Anyone have a slow clap followed with projectile vomiting for this news of Harden?
He has shown up to camp, he's not pulling a #2 any more.
It's possible the dude truly doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't care about training camp or preseason. He knows Houston isn't going to force him out, he would have to do that himself.
He wanted to have one more bender before getting into the regular season, but he will probably show up for Game 1 and continue to be Harden...by which, I mean, put up 30 PPG in the regular season and choke in the playoffs.
Seventyniner
12-12-2020, 12:01 PM
It's possible the dude truly doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't care about training camp or preseason. He knows Houston isn't going to force him out, he would have to do that himself.
He wanted to have one more bender before getting into the regular season, but he will probably show up for Game 1 and continue to be Harden...by which, I mean, put up 30 PPG in the regular season and choke in the playoffs.
That's bad news for Spurs fans hoping for a playoff berth. Harden, even with the weird cast around him, is easily good enough to carry the Rockets into the postseason.
That's bad news for Spurs fans hoping for a playoff berth. Harden, even with the weird cast around him, is easily good enough to carry the Rockets into the postseason.
Our path would be a lot clearer if Houston continued to implode, but it's looking less likely at this point. I expect them to be in the top 8 barring something crazy at this point.
Dejounte
12-16-2020, 09:12 AM
This is what happens when you don't "raise" a star the right way. They grab you by the balls and they twist them. Probably why the Spurs have a high requirement for drafting high character guys.
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1339204824299134981?s=19
A lot of damning info on Harden in this article.
THE HOUSTON ROCKETS' culture in the James Harden era, which bridges two owners and now four head coaches, might be best summed up by a former staffer's three words:
"Whatever James wants."
Unless they were on the front end of a back-to-back set, it was essentially a sure thing that the Rockets stayed overnight -- or even an extra day -- after games in Los Angeles, Phoenix and other road cities that rank among Harden's favorite stops.
If the Rockets had two or three days between games, it was a good bet Harden would call for an off day and charter a private jet to party in Las Vegas or another city. He always gets an excused absence from the first practice after the All-Star break for the same reason.
"Just James being James," those currently within the franchise say. But these circumstances are drastically different than at any previous point of the perennial All-Star's eight-year Houston tenure.
Harden has pushed the Rockets to upgrade every offseason, saying he would want to be traded if they couldn't contend, sources said. And he had final say on things beyond just travel and practice schedules as well. He could call the shots on personnel moves, both on the roster and the coaching staff, a power he flexed to push for the firing of head coach Kevin McHale and departures of co-stars Dwight Howard and Chris Paul, sources said.
...
"Yeah, he's going to act up," a former Rockets staffer said.
"He's never heard 'no' before."
MULTIPLE ROCKETS OFFICIALS acknowledge that the entire organization has been "complicit" in the culture that has been created over the past eight years.
"We knew who the boss of the organization was," a former Rockets assistant coach said. "That's just part of what the deal was when you go to Houston. The players, coaches, GM, owner all know.
"I don't blame James. I blame the organization. It's not his fault. He did what they allowed him to do."
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"If they have multiple days off, everybody knows: James is going to fly somewhere else and party," a member of last season's coaching staff said. "But he's going to come back and have a 50-point triple-double, so they're OK with it."
But the lack of discipline and attention to detail hasn't been OK with Paul and Russell Westbrook, ultimately leading to breakups between Harden and those two stars.
One of Paul's biggest beefs, sources said, was that Harden basically opted not to participate in the Rockets' offense when the ball wasn't in his hands, sometimes barely stepping over half court while spectating when Paul had the ball. Harden quickly tired of Paul barking about his concerns, which included lobbying coach Mike D'Antoni to implement more structure and movement in an offensive system that revolved around Harden's isolations, sources said.
Rockets management believed those issues could be ironed out and wanted to run it back with the Harden-Paul duo last season. Those plans changed as soon as Westbrook became available.
Harden insisted the Rockets get the deal done, saying he'd demand a trade if they didn't find a way to bring his childhood friend and former OKC teammate to Houston, sources said. The Rockets paid a price that was considered steep at the time -- Paul, 2024 and 2026 first-round picks, and swap rights in 2021 and 2025.
Sources said Westbrook frequently expressed his displeasure during the season with not being able to "play my game," as he put it. There were questions about the Harden-Westbrook fit when they were pushing to play together again, including D'Antoni privately expressing his concerns, sources said.
HOUSTON'S CASUAL CULTURE appalled Westbrook. In Oklahoma City, he enjoyed the same sort of superstar privileges as Harden has had in Houston, and the Thunder operated with the discipline of a military unit under Westbrook's watch. The Rockets were a stark contrast, especially last season under D'Antoni, who was never known as a disciplinarian and who was a lame duck in the last year of his contract after extension negotiations infamously fizzled twice over the summer.
Westbrook didn't tolerate tardiness. With the Rockets, scheduled departure times were treated as mere suggestions by Harden and others.
"Nothing ever starts on time," a former Rockets staffer said. "The plane is always late. The bus is never on time. ... It's just an organized AAU team."
On one occasion in the Florida bubble, Harden waited to get his daily COVID-19 testing until just before the Rockets' film session was scheduled to start. When he wasn't on time, Westbrook barked, "Start the film! Start without him!" D'Antoni explained that they'd just have to start over when Harden arrived, which didn't do much to calm Westbrook.
Whether Westbrook or Harden wanted out first isn't clear, but they no longer wanted to play together, a season after the Rockets mortgaged their draft future to make it happen.
Morey, the man who negotiated that deal with owner Tilman Fertitta's approval, made his exit before either star asked to be traded. Rafael Stone, who was promoted to general manager after Morey's resignation and move to become president of basketball operations for the Philadelphia 76ers, was left to deal with the messy aftermath.
As one high-ranking Rockets source told ESPN in November, the franchise was "willing to get uncomfortable" by going into the season with disgruntled superstars on the roster. The Rockets ended up trading Westbrook just before camp opened, sending him to the Washington Wizards for John Wall (fresh off a two-year injury layoff) and a protected future first-round pick, an admission that the previous offseason's deal to acquire Westbrook was a disastrous decision.
But Houston has its heels dug in regarding Harden, refusing at this point to consider an offer unless it includes a young franchise cornerstone and a bundle of first-round picks and/or promising players on rookie deals. Sources say Harden, who had been singularly focused on trying to force his way to the Brooklyn Nets, has indicated to the Rockets that he would be agreeable to a trade to the 76ers or other select contenders.
After the Rockets let it be known they would not be swayed by unhappiness, Harden delayed an arrival to camp, instead choosing to hang out with rapper Lil Baby -- gifting his friend a Prada bag stuffed with honey buns, a $100,000 brick of cash (aka a "Honey Bun") and a Richard Mille watch worth well into the six figures for Lil Baby's birthday -- while leaving Silas hanging.
Harden reported to the Rockets on Dec. 8, a week after his teammates, tested negative for the coronavirus for an NBA-mandated six consecutive days and finally practiced with the team on Monday. He had a "good conversation" about basketball strategy with Silas, according to the coach, who had minimal communication with his point guard until that point. But Harden has yet to speak to the media since his late arrival to training camp, a violation of NBA rules.
"You can't get mad at your kid if you let him eat candy every night and then suddenly one night you don't and they throw a tantrum," an ex-Houston assistant coach said. "You're the one who let them eat candy every night.
"The Rockets turned the organization over to James and now they have to live with the fallout."
BG_Spurs_Fan
12-16-2020, 09:22 AM
^ Exactly how most superstars are these days - LeBron, Harden, the snake, Durant/Kyrie/Jordan butt buddies - they all control their franchises. Curry and Giannis being the exceptions. Let's see how Doncic wields his power.
exstatic
12-16-2020, 11:41 AM
The problem is, they turned over the keys before he won anything. Bash LeBron all you want, and I don’t particularly like him, but he wins. At some point, Harden needs to have his realization: the problem is himself. He’s colossally selfish, but can’t close the deal in clutch time. Even Jordan eventually realized that selfish scoring was usually corrosive to the team structure and winning. He had those Harden like years, scoring 37PPG once in an era when the 3 pointer was barely a thing, but won titles once he dialed back closer to 30-31 PPG, and involved the rest of the team.
baseline bum
12-16-2020, 11:56 AM
The problem is, they turned over the keys before he won anything. Bash LeBron all you want, and I don’t particularly like him, but he wins. At some point, Harden needs to have his realization: the problem is himself. He’s colossally selfish, but can’t close the deal in clutch time. Even Jordan eventually realized that selfish scoring was usually corrosive to the team structure and winning. He had those Harden like years, scoring 37PPG once in an era when the 3 pointer was barely a thing, but won titles once he dialed back closer to 30-31 PPG, and involved the rest of the team.
I don't think you can compare Jordan's 37 ppg year to Harden's ballhogging. That was before they had Pippen and Horace Grant and when the team's second and third best offensive players were a second year Charles Oakley and John Paxson. I think it's a pretty far cry from having Chris Paul and a bunch of elite shooters surrounding you and refusing to give them the ball. It's funny reading how much of a shitheard Harden is though, it's no wonder this guy can't elevate his game when it matters most.
lefty
12-16-2020, 12:02 PM
^ Exactly how most superstars are these days - LeBron, Harden, the snake, Durant/Kyrie/Jordan butt buddies - they all control their franchises. Curry and Giannis being the exceptions. Let's see how Doncic wields his power.
lol putting LeBron in that category
BG_Spurs_Fan
12-16-2020, 12:33 PM
lol putting LeBron in that category
He doesn't control the whole franchise? lol he's the poster boy for it.
baseline bum
12-16-2020, 01:26 PM
He doesn't control the whole franchise? lol he's the poster boy for it.
He controls weak franchises like Clevleand. Riley wouldn't let him call the shots in Miami though.
lefty
12-16-2020, 02:03 PM
He doesn't control the whole franchise? lol he's the poster boy for it.
Unlike the other 2 clowns, he has gotten resuts out of it
exstatic
12-16-2020, 03:31 PM
He controls weak franchises like Clevleand. Riley wouldn't let him call the shots in Miami though.
He left as a direct result of them cutting Mike Miller to save a few dollars. All three of the cornerstones of that Heat run left some money on the table in 2010 specifically because they wanted Miller signed as a floor spacer. Perhaps that was the wrong hill for Riley and Arison to die on.
baseline bum
12-16-2020, 04:16 PM
He left as a direct result of them cutting Mike Miller to save a few dollars. All three of the cornerstones of that Heat run left some money on the table in 2010 specifically because they wanted Miller signed as a floor spacer. Perhaps that was the wrong hill for Riley and Arison to die on.
Yeah don't know what the hell Arison was thinking cutting Miller to save a few million on the luxury tax. Had he not done that LeBron probably would have spent the rest of his career in Miami. Can't imagine how pissed LeBron was to not have Miller there in the 2014 Finals when Chalmers was on that ridiculous slump. Just so shortsighted, if there is one thing LeBron will never tolerate it's playing for a team trying to be cheap at the expense of winning.
Mr. Body
12-16-2020, 07:02 PM
My big surprise is that Russell Westbrook, one of the most undisciplined players I've ever seen on the basketball court, is this super-disciplined guy in terms of team meetings and workouts.
tonight...you
12-16-2020, 07:05 PM
My big surprise is that Russell Westbrook, one of the most undisciplined players I've ever seen on the basketball court, is this super-disciplined guy in terms of team meetings and workouts.
Maybe he's all OCD and his release valve is actually in the playing.
lefty
12-16-2020, 07:13 PM
My big surprise is that Russell Westbrook, one of the most undisciplined players I've ever seen on the basketball court, is this super-disciplined guy in terms of team meetings and workouts.
His in game decision making isn’t the best, dude has a low basketball IQ tbh, but he’s always been competitive
exstatic
12-16-2020, 07:16 PM
Yeah don't know what the hell Arison was thinking cutting Miller to save a few million on the luxury tax. Had he not done that LeBron probably would have spent the rest of his career in Miami. Can't imagine how pissed LeBron was to not have Miller there in the 2014 Finals when Chalmers was on that ridiculous slump. Just so shortsighted, if there is one thing LeBron will never tolerate it's playing for a team trying to be cheap at the expense of winning.
And they let their franchise legend and face go...over money. Y’Know, if your guy wants one more 2 year payday, you give it to him. If you need to stay under the tax, ship out some other contracts. It was completely shameful to let Wade walk. I’ll also be eternally grateful with how pissy they were to Bowen. He had just come off his first all defensive team selection with Miami, and they were pissed that he took like a couple of million from SA, instead of signing on there for cheap again. It wasn’t just the money. Riley was downright nasty in the media, saying they could create another Bowen in short order. They still haven’t, and we got a Kobe defender, 3 titles, and 7 all defensive team seasons out of him, all after the age of 30.
Dejounte
12-22-2020, 09:30 AM
https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1341384558227435520?s=19
Trouble in paradise
Harden throwing a ball at a rookie
lefty
12-22-2020, 09:38 AM
YOu thougt you was jordan
https://twitter.com/TheAthletic/status/1341384558227435520?s=19
Trouble in paradise
Harden throwing a ball at a rookie
The headline makes it sound worse than it really is. From the article:
Sources say Harden and rookie Jae’Sean Tate had a heated exchange during Monday’s practice, culminating in Harden throwing the ball in Tate’s direction. The ball did not hit Tate. Interactions like these between teammates during practice can be part of a normal, competitive environment. Harden, however, is known by those in the organization as a laid-back and calm personality —especially as superstars go — and some around the franchise are viewing this as rising to an uncharacteristic level of frustration given his ongoing situation.
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Sources have described Harden as engaged and encouraging with teammates on game nights, discussing strategy and how to improve on the floor.
But of course, anything Harden does now is going to become instant clickbait...and he kinda brought that on himself.
PhantomDashCam
12-22-2020, 08:18 PM
https://twitter.com/BSO/status/1341458490691338241?s=20
This guy...SMH
tonight...you
12-22-2020, 08:23 PM
Party down homie. You're invincible.
As my wife watches people die nearly every single day around her, working the front lines and then clocks out to see fucks like him, insulting the people working to save our lives.
rankingtear
12-22-2020, 08:31 PM
There is a rumor that Harden and PHI deal is done with a package of Simmons, Maxey and picks and all they are waiting on is Tyrese Maxey to be tradable.
Dejounte
12-22-2020, 08:41 PM
There is a rumor that Harden and PHI deal is done with a package of Simmons, Maxey and picks and all they are waiting on is Tyrese Maxey to be tradable.
Wall and Simmons just feels like an awful fit together. Wall can't drive and kick to Simmons.
exstatic
12-22-2020, 08:45 PM
Wall and Simmons just feels like an awful fit together. Wall can't drive and kick to Simmons.
They have to try to make the playoffs, or those pick swaps with OKC will rape their franchise for half a decade.
rankingtear
12-22-2020, 09:23 PM
I don't think they care about fit at this point. Just the best return.
Dejounte
12-23-2020, 10:44 AM
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1341765325990277120?s=19
The bridge is being burned, fellas
https://twitter.com/espn_macmahon/status/1341765325990277120?s=19
The bridge is being burned, fellas
In all honesty, I don't know if Harden is seriously just trying to force a trade, or if he just thinks he can still get away with this stuff and not get caught or face repercussions.
Dejounte
12-23-2020, 10:55 AM
In all honesty, I don't know if Harden is seriously just trying to force a trade, or if he just thinks he can still get away with this stuff and not get caught or face repercussions.
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/89688891_2968794993186554_1671291132014755840_o.jp g?_nc_cat=105&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=kIxOSiScXMAAX931hPo&_nc_oc=AQnFgb7uggja1xG1k2FpE3cqY5lmhdDEK6dMjWugiAb yOtfrWMQNGoD7q9drf8Q5OjBR-iOK3PO2yPKFIS2dDy96&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-1.xx&oh=ace97ec1002cb2f54b8b83934fd2e4ac&oe=600AD575
Seventyniner
12-23-2020, 11:28 AM
In all honesty, I don't know if Harden is seriously just trying to force a trade, or if he just thinks he can still get away with this stuff and not get caught or face repercussions.
Or he just gives zero fucks about consequences.
baseline bum
12-23-2020, 12:20 PM
There is a rumor that Harden and PHI deal is done with a package of Simmons, Maxey and picks and all they are waiting on is Tyrese Maxey to be tradable.
Still got until January 3rd for that deal to fall apart then if true.
baseline bum
12-23-2020, 12:21 PM
In all honesty, I don't know if Harden is seriously just trying to force a trade, or if he just thinks he can still get away with this stuff and not get caught or face repercussions.
Just acting like a faggot to piss the Rockets FO off in hopes they'll want to be done with him and his drama ASAP. I'd die laughing if it ends up with dumping him some place like Sacramento or Minneapolis.
Prime BEEF
12-23-2020, 12:48 PM
Just acting like a faggot to piss the Rockets FO off in hopes they'll want to be done with him and his drama ASAP. I'd die laughing if it ends up with dumping him some place like Sacramento or Minneapolis.
Oh man that would be awesome. Please send him to Sacramento lol
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Surprise surprise, Rockets are at the epicenter of the first postponement of the season...one day after NBA tipped off.
Didn't even have enough players to suit up to play, and their superstar is still hanging out at strip clubs to "support his girls".
What a joke that franchise has become.
Harden right now:
https://i.imgflip.com/2zk8s.jpg
baseline bum
12-23-2020, 07:45 PM
A $50,000 fine for getting a game cancelled is such a fucking joke. Maybe he wants to stick it to the Rockets owner by making it that much harder to hit the 70 game threshold for full payout of the local TV deal. What a little chickenshit bitch Harden is.
RD2191
12-23-2020, 07:48 PM
A $50,000 fine for getting a game cancelled is such a fucking joke. Maybe he wants to stick it to the Rockets owner by making it that much harder to hit the 70 game threshold for full payout of the local TV deal. What a little chickenshit bitch Harden is.
tbh
A $50,000 fine for getting a game cancelled is such a fucking joke. Maybe he wants to stick it to the Rockets owner by making it that much harder to hit the 70 game threshold for full payout of the local TV deal. What a little chickenshit bitch Harden is.
Agreed, that's probably like one or two nights at the club for him. He doesn't give a shit.
NBA media is trying to play it up like everybody else got infected by going to a barbershop...but I find that highly suspicious.
KobesAchilles
12-23-2020, 08:24 PM
Can’t lose a game of you never play it in the first place. You gotta think
Dejounte
12-23-2020, 10:57 PM
https://twitter.com/graemesimpson_/status/1341814393793818626?s=19
exstatic
12-23-2020, 11:23 PM
A $50,000 fine for getting a game cancelled is such a fucking joke. Maybe he wants to stick it to the Rockets owner by making it that much harder to hit the 70 game threshold for full payout of the local TV deal. What a little chickenshit bitch Harden is.
He gets docked 284K for every game he misses (he broke protocol), and that number, with possible quarantine, is undetermined, but stands at one.
He gets docked 284K for every game he misses (he broke protocol), and that number, with possible quarantine, is undetermined, but stands at one.
He hasn't been docked a game because the game was postponed, not cancelled.
exstatic
12-23-2020, 11:47 PM
He hasn't been docked a game because the game was postponed, not cancelled.
The game was postponed because he couldn’t play, being suspended. That’s a missed game. They would have had the minimum eight players if he didn’t break protocol.
Dejounte
12-23-2020, 11:49 PM
The game was postponed because he couldn’t play, being suspended. That’s a missed game. They would have had the minimum eight players if he didn’t break protocol.
He wasn't suspended. His punishment was a $50k penalty. That was it. No suspension.
Sugus
12-24-2020, 12:12 AM
He gets docked 284K for every game he misses (he broke protocol), and that number, with possible quarantine, is undetermined, but stands at one.
Considering he turned down a 50 million dollar extension just to get out of Houston, I don't think he'll be hurting much from missing a couple grand for some games. Especially since he knows he's for sure got another contract lined up after this one runs out. I feel a bit of pity for whichever team ends up trading for this guy...
XDT76
12-24-2020, 11:02 AM
He gets docked 284K for every game he misses (he broke protocol), and that number, with possible quarantine, is undetermined, but stands at one.
If he broke the protocol and missed all the games, he is still bringing home more than 10M for the season. Just saying.
Mr. Body
12-24-2020, 11:15 AM
Wall and Simmons just feels like an awful fit together. Wall can't drive and kick to Simmons.
Rockets should have traded Harden and kept Westbrook. Now they're fucked.
exstatic
12-24-2020, 11:27 AM
Considering he turned down a 50 million dollar extension just to get out of Houston, I don't think he'll be hurting much from missing a couple grand for some games. Especially since he knows he's for sure got another contract lined up after this one runs out. I feel a bit of pity for whichever team ends up trading for this guy...
I don’t. They know what they’re getting into, or should.
Sugus
12-24-2020, 01:38 PM
I don’t. They know what they’re getting into, or should.
Yeah, can't disagree with that. I've actually read a lot of other teams' fans being turned off from the idea of getting Harden due to his recent behaviors. Partying during a global pandemic without a mask on sure isn't gonna get him new fans. I should've said, I felt pity for the fans of his new team... They can't control shit and will have to watch Harden play his disgusting brand of basketball.
I see him going to Philly, and when he breaks down in the playoffs, it'll be delicious. Philly fans are vicious.
Dejounte
03-21-2021, 07:32 PM
https://twitter.com/fosterdj3/status/1373790167828287488?s=19
This is fucking sad.
Lmao at all the short-sighted pro-tankers who think it wouldn't have a ripple effect on culture
Dejounte
03-21-2021, 07:35 PM
https://youtu.be/CpESGanxEiE
Even Christian Wood looks like he'll want out soon lmfao
timvp
03-21-2021, 09:57 PM
https://twitter.com/fosterdj3/status/1373790167828287488?s=19
This is fucking sad.
Lmao at all the short-sighted pro-tankers who think it wouldn't have a ripple effect on culture
Oof. Yeah, tanking and racking up high draft picks sounds fun in theory but it suuuucks during the tank, tbh.
Dejounte
03-25-2021, 04:11 PM
Looks like ST is not the only fan base in shambles :lmao :lmao
https://bbs.clutchfans.net/threads/clown-show-organization.311002/page-2#post-13492791
https://theathletic.com/2477083/2021/03/25/victor-oladipo-traded-again-this-time-to-miami-heat-instant-grades-and-reaction/
Houston Rockets acquire Avery Bradley, Kelly Olynyk and a 2022 first-round pick swap
The Houston Rockets completely bungled this aspect of the trade. Back in January when they orchestrated a four-team deal to move Harden out of town per his request, the Rockets demanded they receive picks and an All-Star in return. It was an unnecessary front to put up because everybody knew they were operating from a relative disadvantage. The idea of receiving an All-Star in return was to show they could still remain competitive while jettisoning one of the best offensive weapons we’ve ever seen.
The Rockets could have ended up with Caris LeVert and Jarrett Allen in the deal, but they NEEDED an All-Star. So they ended up sending LeVert to Indiana and Allen to Cleveland. It netted them Oladipo. At the time, this was about saving face and remaining competitive. But the fragility of this team was exposed as soon as Christian Wood (https://theathletic.com/player/nba/rockets/christian-wood/) went down with a bad ankle injury. They lost 20 straight games after that injury. Oladipo turned down a contract extension, and everybody knew two things about the next step for Houston. 1) Oladipo is not the same player he was two years ago, and 2) the Rockets have zero leverage in acquiring a decent return for a potential Oladipo rental.
Neither Bradley nor Olynyk will be impact players on this team. They’ll both be gone in the offseason. And the Rockets will be left hoping this draft swap ends up being something they can leverage in the future. Bradley and Olynyk and a draft swap instead of LeVert and Allen on the roster and under contract past this season. That is one of the worst returns in NBA history, regardless of how good or bad Oladipo might be in Miami. They better hope the picks from Brooklyn end up giving them something big down the road.
Grade: Is there anything I can give this lower than an F?
:lmao :lmao
Dejounte
04-23-2021, 04:59 PM
https://twitter.com/TheSteinLine/status/1385712401169801217?s=19
Las Vegas Rockets? :lmao :lmao
Leetonidas
04-23-2021, 05:09 PM
Unless Brooklyn becomes a bottom dweller in the next 5 years I think the Harden trade is now the worst all time superstar trade. They had an MVP at his peak who wasn't killing his trade value by saying he'd only play for 1 team with two years on his deal still and ended up getting some bench scrubs and late 1sts out of it :lol
Mr. Body
04-23-2021, 06:10 PM
Houston needs a Sean Marks type to do a low budget rebuild. Pick up castaways, second-chance guys, draft shrewdly. It's possible, but it's hard.
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