In case you needed another reason to hate GS

[Spurtacular]

GS ungraciously skipping the White House party after an allegedly unanimous vote to do so.

Well, it's not like they earned the ring, anyways. Donald Trump has better things to do than to yuck it up with those imposters, anyways.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4600924/Warriors-unanimously-vote-skip-White-House-invite.html

[HarlemHeat37]

There won't be a single NBA champion that will go to the White House while Trump is there, obviously..

[ducks]

They can not stop smoking weed long enough to go

[Spurtacular]

There won't be a single NBA champion that will go to the White House while Trump is there, obviously..

:lmao Your jerkoff fantasies.

[lilbthebasedgod]

*sniff* people disagree with me politically
people don't respect traditons! *sniff*

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Remember when Tim Thomas of the Bruins was called a racist for not visiting Obama's White House after winning the Stanley Cup? Pepperidge Farm remembers:

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Other reporters didn't go that far, but they still ripped him to shreds:


Thomas was pilloried by other media sources, if not quite being equated as a racist. Here in Canada, Sportsnet's Michael Grange (https://twitter.com/#%21/michaelgrange) wrote, "The Bruins shook hands with the Canucks, but Tim Thomas couldn't meet his president?" CBC's Tim Wharnsby asked, "Just wondering if down the road Thomas still will believe standing up for his political convictions in this manner was worth it."

"Shabby. Immature. Unprofessional. Self-centered. Bush league. Need I go on?" wrote Boston Globe hockey writer Kevin Paul Dupont. "All that and more applies to what Thomas did..."


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/did-dave-hodge-go-too-far-with-tim-thomas-tweet/article1359714/

Now the Warriors will get praised by Media for doing the same shit. Gotta love double standards.

[GSH]

:lol Remember when Tim Thomas of the Bruins was called a racist for not visiting Obama's White House after winning the Stanley Cup? Pepperidge Farm remembers:

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Now the Social Justice Warriors will get praised by Media for doing the same shit.



Thassa damn fact. You can't have it both ways.

[RD2191]

Thassa damn fact. You can't have it both ways.

How is it both ways? Trump is a despicable piece of shit. He's a terrible person and a terrible president. What good reason did Tim Thomas have for not meeting with Obama?

[daslicer]

I'm Anti-Trump so this does not offend me at all.

[GSH]

How is it both ways? Trump is a despicable piece of shit. He's a terrible person and a terrible president. What good reason did Tim Thomas have for not meeting with Obama?


LOL. Everyone thinks their own opinion is irrefutable fact. I could just as easily say that Obama was a "despicable piece of shit". Proves nothing, means nothing. It's an opinion. Just like assholes, everyone has one.

The difference is, I thought Thomas was an asshole for not attending the White House visit under Obama. For just this reason. Start this shit, and it just escalates. Be a grownup, go to the dog and pony show, and go home. Simple as that.



I'm Anti-Trump so this does not offend me at all.

Aaaand there you have it.

[cd98]

I dislike Trump, but I do think if it is a tradition to go to the White House, then go. Half the country voted for the guy. I see these people always wanting to have a discussion and teachable moments on racism. But when the other sides guy wins, its boycott time and shut down all discussion. Go there and tell him your feelings, but don't disrespect half the fans by telling them you don't respect their president.

[Leetonidas]

Lol no one gives a fuck. Trump is a faggot

[apalisoc_9]

I'm not surprised op supports a genocidal maniac.

[daslicer]

LOL. Everyone thinks their own opinion is irrefutable fact. I could just as easily say that Obama was a "despicable piece of shit". Proves nothing, means nothing. It's an opinion. Just like assholes, everyone has one.

The difference is, I thought Thomas was an asshole for not attending the White House visit under Obama. For just this reason. Start this shit, and it just escalates. Be a grownup, go to the dog and pony show, and go home. Simple as that.




Aaaand there you have it.

Tbh I didn't care when certain athletes, celebrities, were anti-Obama. Trivial stuff like that does not effect me.

[TheGreatYacht]

Is anyone surprised white nationalist and Jimmer fan OP is a Trump supporter? :lol

He probably posts on 4chan with ClipperNation

[GSH]

Just out of curiosity... if there is a "despicable piece of shit" in the arena, shouldn't the team boycott and not show up that night? Makes just as much sense. Which means no sense at all.

Fucking myopic pinheads.

[cd98]

Just out of curiosity... if there is a "despicable piece of shit" in the arena, shouldn't the team boycott and not show up that night? Makes just as much sense. Which means no sense at all.

Fucking myopic pinheads.

I mean they played with one as their starting center.

[DAF86]

:lol Remember when Tim Thomas of the Bruins was called a racist for not visiting Obama's White House after winning the Stanley Cup? Pepperidge Farm remembers:

161585318166925312

Other reporters didn't go that far, but they still ripped him to shreds:


Thomas was pilloried by other media sources, if not quite being equated as a racist. Here in Canada, Sportsnet's Michael Grange (https://twitter.com/#%21/michaelgrange) wrote, "The Bruins shook hands with the Canucks, but Tim Thomas couldn't meet his president?" CBC's Tim Wharnsby asked, "Just wondering if down the road Thomas still will believe standing up for his political convictions in this manner was worth it."

"Shabby. Immature. Unprofessional. Self-centered. Bush league. Need I go on?" wrote Boston Globe hockey writer Kevin Paul Dupont. "All that and more applies to what Thomas did..."


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/did-dave-hodge-go-too-far-with-tim-thomas-tweet/article1359714/

Now the Warriors will get praised by Media for doing the same shit. Gotta love double standards.

I'm a person that thinks it's a disgrace that a guy like Trump got to be the president of a nation, but I have to say that I can't argue with your point.

You either call out every athlete that decides not to meet the president or, even better, you let everyone do as they please.

[TheGreatYacht]

Thassa damn fact. You can't have it both ways.

Everyone thinks their own opinion is irrefutable fact.
^ god damn

It really is true that 33.3% of trump supporters are just as stupid as the other 66.6%

[SpurPadre]

GS ungraciously skipping the White House party after an allegedly unanimous vote to do so.

Well, it's not like they earned the ring, anyways. Donald Trump has better things to do than to yuck it up with those imposters, anyways.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4600924/Warriors-unanimously-vote-skip-White-House-invite.html

LOL, like what? Continue to lie about everything and fuck over everybody in the world? I hate the Dubs as much as anybody, but they're not as evil as that orange piece of shit.

[picnroll]

Only thing I can respect them for.

[SpurPadre]

I'm a person that thinks it's a disgrace that a guy like Trump got to be the president of a nation, but I have to say that I can't argue with your point.

You either call out every athlete that decides not to meet the president or, even better, you let everyone do as they please.

You're forgetting a key factor separating Obama and Trump: one is respected by most of the world while the other has other countries laughing at us and is impeachable without having completed a year in office!

[cd98]

Not sure why people hate Trump. He's so ineffectual that he'll never get a thing passed. He's just a placeholder for the next president. I bet he doesn't even run next cycle as the novelty of it wears off.

[SpurPadre]

Not sure why people hate Trump. He's so ineffectual that he'll never get a thing passed. He's just a placeholder for the next president. I bet he doesn't even run next year as the novelty of it wears off.

Because he's evil-minded. The things you mention are true and that adds to his hatred. 4 years of nothing vital getting done is something to get angry about, tbh. Then again, if you think he's been ineffectual, you're not the target of his venom.

[baseline bum]

You're forgetting a key factor separating Obama and Trump: one is respected by most of the world while the other has other countries laughing at us and is impeachable without having completed a year in office!

The Warriors would most likely go visit a President Pence. Pop's as left as they come in sports and never had a problem visiting Bush. Trump is a fascist piece of shit who got elected on white nationalism. Trump is not normal no matter how many false equivalences the right tries to throw out to pretend he is. I can't believe conservatives are happy with him hijacking their party and remaking it in his image.

[cd98]

Because he's evil-minded. The things you mention are true and that adds to his hatred. 4 years of nothing vital getting done is something to get angry about, tbh. Then again, if you think he's been ineffectual, you're not the target of his venom.

Target? I mean I'm not a Muslim. But most of his time is spent talking about Russia. And Obama didn't do much after healthcare. Our system is set up so that so little is done. But Trump has a special gift of focusing on fraud in an election he won and firing people that are investigating. He is a special kind of ineffective.

[lilbthebasedgod]

btw this isn't even real they said they're still undecided

[SpurPadre]

The Warriors would most likely go visit a President Pence. Pop's as left as they come in sports and never had a problem visiting Bush. Trump is a fascist piece of shit who got elected on white nationalism. Trump is not normal no matter how many false equivalences the right tries to throw out to pretend he is. I can't believe conservatives are happy with him hijacking their party and remaking it in his image.

As someone who's to the left of Pop, I agree with you.

[ducks]

Only thing I can respect them for.

It is a disgrace to not see such a place you might not agree with his views but seeing the sights would be awesome.
I would even go if i could of Hillary the person who was very careless with classified emails and gave them to people who had no security clearances and actually committed crimes. So far no crime has been committed by the president

[ducks]

btw this isn't even real they said they're still undecided

Nothing like fake news these days to keep trying to tear down trump. If he is so bad why is the left thing they need to help
Trump ruin Trump

[picnroll]

It is a disgrace to not see such a place you might not agree with his views but seeing the sights would be awesome.
I would even go if i could of Hillary the person who was very careless with classified emails and gave them to people who had no security clearances and actually committed crimes. So far no crime has been committed by the president
The man has done nothing but disrespect the office. Why show respect to the man?

[SpurPadre]

Target? I mean I'm not a Muslim. But most of his time is spent talking about Russia. And Obama didn't do much after healthcare. Our system is set up so that so little is done. But Trump has a special gift of focusing on fraud in an election he won and firing people that are investigating. He is a special kind of ineffective.

Highly disagree with that statement. He passed Wall Street Reform, negotiated a deal to block a nuclear Iran, played a key role in the 2015 Paris Agreement on Climate Change which Trump put an end to, and there was a guy named Osama Bin Laden who got killed on his watch? Remember him? Pretty evil guy. He also normalized relations with Cuba, which Trump will end too, unfortunately. These are just to name a few. I could go on but why should we on a sports board?

[baseline bum]

Target? I mean I'm not a Muslim. But most of his time is spent talking about Russia. And Obama didn't do much after healthcare. Our system is set up so that so little is done. But Trump has a special gift of focusing on fraud in an election he won and firing people that are investigating. He is a special kind of ineffective.

Our system got hijacked by the Koch Brothers and the tea party they financed, and that's why nothing gets done. Before all the Koch money started flowing in Republican senators were talking about voting for Obama over McCain over their handling of the bank bailout meeting. Before the Koch money started flowing in you had Republicans acknowledging and ready to address global warming. Now they have become conspiracy theorists on the subject. Before the Koch money you had people like Grassley willing to work with Obama to implement Romney's health plan nationally. The teabaggers are why Washington has been in complete gridlock for years. They played on all the anger about a Kenyan muslim ###### being elected to lead the free world and Trump becoming the face of the GOP was the result.

[ducks]

The man has done nothing but disrespect the office. Why show respect to the man?

He has helped America a lot with the Supreme Court pick and rolling back regulations

[ducks]

The stock market is up he is helping the economy.

[baseline bum]

He has helped America a lot with the Supreme Court pick and rolling back regulations

Trumpcare as it stands now would kill way more Americans than ISIS could ever dream of.

[ducks]

I do not Agree with most of what he says and he is not a trump fan
But
Conservative pundit Charles Krauthammer said attempts to pin Russian collusion on Attorney General Jeff Sessions are "absurd," and Sessions greatly helped himself by testifying in open session Tuesday before the Senate Intelligence Committee.

"This seems to be a case of all smoke and no fire," Krauthammer told Fox News' "The Story With Martha McCallum."

[ducks]

Trumpcare as it stands now would kill way more Americans than ISIS could ever dream of.

As it stands right now Obamacare will not help anyone since no one can afford it
Trumpcare is not perfect either

[Spurtacular]

I'm Anti-Trump so this does not offend me at all.

I can see that.

But for perspective, it's not like Obama didn't pull all types of shit. Curry went golfing with the guy and acted like he was God's gift. Entertainers are off-putting when they start choosing sides. TD was an equal opportunity fuck you person to the politicians. That's why the guy was a champ and Curry is an imposter.

[cd98]

Trumpcare as it stands now would kill way more Americans than ISIS could ever dream of.
Trumpcare doesn't exist and never will. But let's not be blind. Obamacare has mostly been a bad, failed bill. Obama lied to get it passed. Americans are too dense as a whole to get that if you insure 100% of the population, you will get high premiums and crappy benefits, and poor healthcare unless you are rich enough to pay for the best healthcare.

[baseline bum]

As it stands right now Obamacare will not help anyone since no one can afford it
Trumpcare is not perfect either

From your network


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oPif5a7JOQ

[Spurtacular]

Trumpcare doesn't exist and never will. But let's not be blind. Obamacare has mostly been a bad, failed bill. Obama lied to get it passed. Americans are too dense as a whole to get that if you insure 100% of the population, you will get high premiums and crappy benefits, and poor healthcare unless you are rich enough to pay for the best healthcare.

It's Ryancare, which is as big a piece of shit as Obamacare.

And that's the point. Both parties are fucking us over. Golden Showers would be going to Hillary's White House, which would also have a fuck you healthcare system. They're pious, ignorant ass-hats.

[rasuo214]

Pretty sure this is Fake News based off some tweet with no source.

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[cd98]

Highly disagree with that statement. He passed Wall Street Reform, negotiated a deal to block a nuclear Iran, played a key role in the 2015 Paris Agreement on Climate Change which Trump put an end to, and there was a guy named Osama Bin Laden who got killed on his watch? Remember him? Pretty evil guy. He also normalized relations with Cuba, which Trump will end too, unfortunately. These are just to name a few. I could go on but why should we on a sports board?

Man, please. The Wall Street reform only meant that Wall Street big wigs got more powerful because only they had the resources to be in compliance. Whoever was president would eventually get Bin Laden. And they didn't get him in all his glory, they got a shell of a man hiding in a shack and watching American porn. And that Iran deal was a joke. We ended sanctions and Iran continues to work on its nuclular goals with only nominal oversight that everyone knew would be ineffectual at the time. And what concession did Obama get from normalizing relations with a dictator who continues to violate humanitarian laws with any dissidents. Obama was hugely ineffectual bc he wasted his capital on a horrible healthcare bill. But Trump will be worse, yes.

[Spurtacular]

I'm not surprised op supports a genocidal maniac.

I'm not surprised you're being your shithead self. Go ahead and tell us how Trump is genocidal. This ought to be good.....

.....

And I wasn't supporting Trump. I was just pointing out that this is a deuche move by a deuche organization.

[Spurtacular]

Not sure why people hate Trump. He's so ineffectual that he'll never get a thing passed. He's just a placeholder for the next president. I bet he doesn't even run next cycle as the novelty of it wears off.

I think he was tired of being president before he was even sworn in. He didn't want to do all those meetings and get into the weeds. If the media and the crybabies would have just got on with their lives, he might have came up with a reason to resign two years into his term or otherwise not ran for a second term. Now, he'll run as a big fuck you to all these bitches.

[Spurtacular]

LOL, like what? Continue to lie about everything and fuck over everybody in the world? I hate the Dubs as much as anybody, but they're not as evil as that orange piece of shit.

Let's bring it back to the Warriors. Would you give a fuck about hanging out with those pious pieces of shit?

[Spurtacular]

You're forgetting a key factor separating Obama and Trump: one is respected by most of the world while the other has other countries laughing at us and is impeachable without having completed a year in office!

Yea, I heard this on CNN and MSNBC, too. It must be true!

[Spurtacular]

Highly disagree with that statement. He passed Wall Street Reform, negotiated a deal to block a nuclear Iran, played a key role in the 2015 Paris Agreement on Climate Change which Trump put an end to, and there was a guy named Osama Bin Laden who got killed on his watch? Remember him? Pretty evil guy. He also normalized relations with Cuba, which Trump will end too, unfortunately. These are just to name a few. I could go on but why should we on a sports board?

* How many Wall Street execs did Obama's DOJ prosecute?
* How much money did Obama give in unmarked bills to ISIS, I mean Iran?
* Bin Laden was a US asset for the globalists like Clinton, Bush and Obama. His whereabouts were never top secret. Obama killed him to get elected. Bush probably had the same temptation in 03-04; but it wasn't as much because as long as OBL was out there, the heat was off the government and on the big bad boogie man instead.
* The Paris Climate Change Agreement was BS. We don't need an unrealistic international agreement to protect our own environment.
* Normalizing the relationship with Cuba might have actually been the humanitarian thing to do. But let's be real; Obama's motives were not good. We're talking about a guy and his ilk who slobbered over this murderous dictator.

[baseline bum]

* How many Wall Street execs did Obama's DOJ prosecute?


Obama was a piece of shit when it came to Wall Street corruption, and it was obvious the second he appointed Geithner



* How much money did Obama give in unmarked bills to ISIS, I mean Iran?


You can't be this stupid, the sunnis hate the shias and ISIS just killed a bunch of Iranians.



* Bin Laden was a US asset for the globalists like Clinton, Bush and Obama.


You mean Reagan



* Normalizing the relationship with Cuba might have actually been the humanitarian thing to do. But let's be real; Obama's motives were not good. We're talking about a guy and his ilk who slobbered over this murderous dictator.

The ban on travel to and trade with Cuba is retarded, as is accepting Cuban wetbacks as US citizens.

[Spurtacular]

You mean Reagan.

Clinton passed on killing him. Bush gave him medical care. Obama didn't go in guns a blazing for Osama. If his approval numbers were better, Osama would still have been alive when Trump took office. Sickening; but that's how boldly corrupt our top officials are, as you seem to understand.

[Mikeanaro]

Thats anti-american these bozos should not mess with politics, we are not in the 60s anymore all that extra freedom we have today is the main reason why spoiled brats whine about everything.
Whats the plan to change the world? ask any of these clowns musicians, hollyweirdos, or athletes and they dont know shit, just want to whine because they have too much freedom.

[Mikeanaro]

The man has done nothing but disrespect the office. Why show respect to the man?
How? did he take a dump on the desk or something?

[daslicer]

I can see that.

But for perspective, it's not like Obama didn't pull all types of shit. Curry went golfing with the guy and acted like he was God's gift. Entertainers are off-putting when they start choosing sides. TD was an equal opportunity fuck you person to the politicians. That's why the guy was a champ and Curry is an imposter.

Tbh I didn't care when certain athletes, celebrities, were anti-Obama. Trivial stuff like that does not effect me. I was not a fan of Obama either despite voting for him. The only reason I voted for him was because I felt he was the lesser of 2 evils but that's another story all together. I'm now in my 30's but since my late 20's I have viewed 99.9 percent of all celebrities, and athletes as trash. The only exception was Tim. Whether I agree or disagree with their political views it just doesn't affect me because I don't give a shit about what they have to say. I do laugh at the people who get offended and do take what they have to say seriously.

[peacemaker885]

Thumbs up in my book.

[Mikeanaro]

From your network


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oPif5a7JOQ
Wasnt Hillary saying she wanted to increase the taxes too?

[AFMadison]

Yea. I'm just laughing at Clay Travis roasting Lebron on his false racist accusations. NBA players need to stay out of politics and stick to basketball. Trump's too busy anyways Making America Great Again.

[AFMadison]

The man has done nothing but disrespect the office. Why show respect to the man?
Stick to other topics kid, you have no idea what you're talking about.

[Spurtacular]

Thats anti-american these bozos should not mess with politics, we are not in the 60s anymore all that extra freedom we have today is the main reason why spoiled brats whine about everything.
Whats the plan to change the world? ask any of these clowns musicians, hollyweirdos, or athletes and they dont know shit, just want to whine because they have too much freedom.

I just think they need to keep politics and their business separate.

[99 Problems]

I doubt they were invited. Probably expected an invite, didn't get one, had a vote just the same.

[spurraider21]

Wasnt Hillary saying she wanted to increase the taxes too?
hillary isn't president

why are you ok with this current healthcare bill?

[Spurtacular]

Tbh I didn't care when certain athletes, celebrities, were anti-Obama. Trivial stuff like that does not effect me. I was not a fan of Obama either despite voting for him. The only reason I voted for him was because I felt he was the lesser of 2 evils but that's another story all together. I'm now in my 30's but since my late 20's I have viewed 99.9 percent of all celebrities, and athletes as trash. The only exception was Tim. Whether I agree or disagree with their political views it just doesn't affect me because I don't give a shit about what they have to say. I do laugh at the people who get offended and do take what they have to say seriously.

I think the reason that people get mad at these celebs mouthing off isn't so much cos of their actual endorsements one way or another. It's because the rest of us get reprimanded or even fired for pulling this stuff in our own jobs. Also, people turn to entertainment to get away from the muck. These celebs are tone deaf and/or outright assholes to be pulling this stuff.

[baseline bum]

Yea. I'm just laughing at Clay Travis roasting Lebron on his false racist accusations. NBA players need to stay out of politics and stick to basketball. Trump's too busy anyways Making America Great Again.

No, con-man TV star conspiracy theorists with multiple bankruptcies should stay out of politics.

[Brazil]

Well that's a very solid reason to hate GSW less tbh

on a side note OP is the biggest POS of this board

[Phenomanul]

Is anyone surprised white nationalist and Jimmer fan OP is a Trump supporter? :lol

He probably posts on 4chan with ClipperNation

You and apa are the most racist bigots on this board... :lmao :lmao :lmao

[GSH]

Here's another reason not to like them: they poured $200,000 worth of champagne on the floor in their locker room celebration. I know, I know... it's their money, and they can do what they want to with it. Yep. And I can detest their asses for it. Free country and all that.

Two hundred thousand dollars poured on the damn ground. SMDH.

[Leetonidas]

:lol abysmal approval ratings
:lol vocabulary of a 5 year old
:lol forcing cabinet to compliment him
:lol can't spell
:lol covfefe
:lol fat fuck
:lol murica

[GSH]

No, con-man TV star conspiracy theorists with multiple bankruptcies should stay out of politics.


LMAO... you still can't have it both ways. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/timeline.htm

[bic50]

Wow a bunch of rich guys don't want to visit another rich guy. Who gives a shit?

[tholdren]

Wow. St went political. Youre all idiots, period. None of you know all context about ANY issue, law, or decision. None of you dip shits have all the facts, so when you get in an argument with another person about politics, it makes you look even dumber than i originally thought. Keep this shit off the basketball talk and get some god damn brains.

[testies]

Off topic, but lol at idiots who thought GSW would have an asterisk because of Kawhi dirty play. Nobody is even talking about it anymore like I told you so.

[tholdren]

Off topic, but lol at idiots who thought GSW would have an asterisk because of Kawhi dirty play. Nobody is even talking about it anymore like I told you so.

Everyone who is a fan of basketball, real basketball, is referencing it. Again, this is about sales and entertainment, biggest sales are kd gsw and lebron. So that is what is in the news. Stop watching espn

[Mikeanaro]

hillary isn't president

why are you ok with this current healthcare bill?
But she said that during the debate, when she was trying to be president and I think its the dumbest thing to say if you try to win an election.
Im not ok with healthcare in the US at all, but I think people must attack both sides not just one guy because 94% of the media wash their brains.

[DPG21920]

Athletes :lmao

Have no problem playing for racist owners as long as their pockets get lined. Have no issue taking gobs of money from Nike and gouging poor youth while Nike uses slave labor - as long as it lines their pockets. Play alongside wife beaters, adulterers & people who dodge their kids but Trump is where they draw the line.

:lol Athletes morals.

[dabom]

Lil man syndrome here. :lol

[SPURt]

^ god damn

It really is true that 33.3% of trump supporters are just as stupid as the other 66.6%
Thank goodness I'm in that .1% you didn't account for

[coachmac87]

The Warriors would most likely go visit a President Pence. Pop's as left as they come in sports and never had a problem visiting Bush. Trump is a fascist piece of shit who got elected on white nationalism. Trump is not normal no matter how many false equivalences the right tries to throw out to pretend he is. I can't believe conservatives are happy with him hijacking their party and remaking it in his image.


White Nationalism won him the POTUS??? Where was that white nationalism going up against Obama for two terms??

Trump won because he was a better candidate then Hillary. Period. It's a disgrace tbh how bad she is/was...the corruption and incompetence etc.

[spurraider21]

Athletes :lmao

Have no problem playing for racist owners as long as their pockets get lined. Have no issue taking gobs of money from Nike and gouging poor youth while Nike uses slave labor - as long as it lines their pockets. Play alongside wife beaters, adulterers & people who dodge their kids but Trump is where they draw the line.

:lol Athletes morals.I used to think this way, too... but I think it's shallow. It's like saying you aren't allowed to criticize the banking system for unfair policies if you use a bank. What's the alternative, tucking your money under the mattress? If you criticize America, you should leave and go live somewhere else. If you think taxes are too high, are you hypocritical for paying all of your taxes?

Would you quit your job just because one of your coworkers had committed a crime 10 years ago? And if you don't quit your job, does that mean you support that crime?

[spurraider21]

White Nationalism won him the POTUS??? Where was that white nationalism going up against Obama for two terms??

Trump won because he was a better candidate then Hillary. Period. It's a disgrace tbh how bad she is/was...the corruption and incompetence etc.He ran a campaign that teetered on white nationalism and got elected despite it. People weren't dissuaded from voting for him. That's telling enough. A subtle difference than getting elected "because of it." It should have been enough to turn off voters, but mysteriously, it wasn't.

Also I agree Hillary was a shit candidate.

[coachmac87]

He ran a campaign that teetered on white nationalism and got elected despite it. People weren't dissuaded from voting for him. That's telling enough. A subtle difference than getting elected "because of it." It should have been enough to turn off voters, but mysteriously, it wasn't.

Also I agree Hillary was a shit candidate.


How did it teeter white nationalism?

[baseline bum]

LMAO... you still can't have it both ways. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/whitewater/timeline.htm

I was ok voting Clinton because a hostile congress would have been a huge check and balance against that fuck. Instead we get a friendly congress covering up Trump's corruption by trying to say he's new at this.

[spurraider21]

How did it teeter white nationalism?By calling out virtually every other ethnic group as the problems plaguing America.

- Muslims cheering on rooftops, proposing a full-scale ban at one point.

- Mexicans being rapists and criminals, and a judge couldn't possibly be fair because his parents were Mexican.

- Asians are screwing us by manipulating currency and stealing jobs.

- Constant portrayal of the black community at large being in "the worst shape they've ever been" (lol), almost invariably talks about inner cities every time african americans are brought up, as if that's the only place they live. One time even pointed out that a black guy was at his rally by saying "look at my african american over here".

He never said "white nationalism" as part of his campaign, but there was definitely dog-whistling and subtext to at least cater to those groups.

I will absolutely agree that it isn't right or fair to blame him for actions/views of his followers... but is it telling at the very least that people who ARE white nationalists almost unanimously supported his candidacy all along? Kind of a stretch to think it was a coincidence.

[superbigtime]

How is it both ways? Trump is a despicable piece of shit. He's a terrible person and a terrible president. What good reason did Tim Thomas have for not meeting with Obama?

[coachmac87]

By calling out virtually every other ethnic group as the problems plaguing America.

- Muslims cheering on rooftops, proposing a full-scale ban at one point.

- Mexicans being rapists and criminals, and a judge couldn't possibly be fair because his parents were Mexican.

- Asians are screwing us by manipulating currency and stealing jobs.

- Constant portrayal of the black community at large being in "the worst shape they've ever been" (lol), almost invariably talks about inner cities every time african americans are brought up, as if that's the only place they live. One time even pointed out that a black guy was at his rally by saying "look at my african american over here".

He never said "white nationalism" as part of his campaign, but there was definitely dog-whistling and subtext to at least cater to those groups.

I will absolutely agree that it isn't right or fair to blame him for actions/views of his followers... but is it telling at the very least that people who ARE white nationalists almost unanimously supported his candidacy all along? Kind of a stretch to think it was a coincidence.


Wow...then why did both the black and Hispanic voted increase in favor of Trump?? Seems like you fell for the left wing media propaganda


And you're a little off on almost all of your points and he didn't win because of those points that teetered "white nationalism"..

And I'll ask again where was this when Obama was running?

[Dex]

:lol Remember when Tim Thomas of the Bruins was called a racist for not visiting Obama's White House after winning the Stanley Cup? Pepperidge Farm remembers:

161585318166925312

Other reporters didn't go that far, but they still ripped him to shreds:


Thomas was pilloried by other media sources, if not quite being equated as a racist. Here in Canada, Sportsnet's Michael Grange (https://twitter.com/#%21/michaelgrange) wrote, "The Bruins shook hands with the Canucks, but Tim Thomas couldn't meet his president?" CBC's Tim Wharnsby asked, "Just wondering if down the road Thomas still will believe standing up for his political convictions in this manner was worth it."

"Shabby. Immature. Unprofessional. Self-centered. Bush league. Need I go on?" wrote Boston Globe hockey writer Kevin Paul Dupont. "All that and more applies to what Thomas did..."


https://www.theglobeandmail.com/sports/did-dave-hodge-go-too-far-with-tim-thomas-tweet/article1359714/

Now the Warriors will get praised by Media for doing the same shit. Gotta love double standards.

Not the same situation at all. Thomas was "ripped" for not visiting the White House because Obama is black...a claim of racial prejudice that was likely unfounded.

The Warriors are refusing to visit the White House because Trump is a white, egotistical trust-fund baby and white supremacist who is doing everything he can to ruin our country and has a record-low approval rating in a record-fast time. And they are doing it as a team, not just an individual.

I hate the Warriors, but I appreciate them making a stand.

[Fireball]

they should go and hand Trump a jersey with number zero and "faggot" above it

[da_suns_fan]

If Tim Thomas wanted to boycott Obama, thats fine. But peeps are gonna ask why.

If entire GSW teams wants to boycott Trump, thats fine. But peeps are gonna ask why (and I'm sure they'd be more than happy to say).

Trump probably has early stages of dementia. Youre a fucking idiot if you even considered voting for him.

[da_suns_fan]

they should go and hand Trump a jersey with number zero and "faggot" above it

Or better yet "electoral college".

[baseline bum]

they should go and hand Trump a jersey with number zero and "faggot" above it

I'd go with jersey number 45 with the name IMPEACH

[baseline bum]

If Tim Thomas wanted to boycott Obama, thats fine. But peeps are gonna ask why.

If entire GSW teams wants to boycott Trump, thats fine. But peeps are gonna ask why (and I'm sure they'd be more than happy to say).

Trump probably has early stages of dementia. Youre a fucking idiot if you even considered voting for him.

I doubt it's dementia, he's just a piece of shit.

[Dex]

Here's another reason not to like them: they poured $200,000 worth of champagne on the floor in their locker room celebration. I know, I know... it's their money, and they can do what they want to with it. Yep. And I can detest their asses for it. Free country and all that.

Two hundred thousand dollars poured on the damn ground. SMDH.

Every team does this when they win a championship. Spurs did the same thing in 2014.

http://cache4.asset-cache.net/gc/450688088-the-san-antonio-spurs-celebrate-in-the-gettyimages.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=GkZZ8bf5zL1ZiijUmxa7QVm7p6B5qpp4cI0giocd7SZn%2fd atI2P0netWr3zgzwSzUjdzqd%2bzUxl%2fT1kwmLzjAdHSN4tp oSkGZesS9rRFhUTU%2fz5oMCjE4dKSDMabSEF3

You can hate the wastefulness of it...but you can't pin it solely on Golden State.

[Biggems]

I would go, even if clinton or obama were in office, and I hated their political views. It is about meeting the leader of the free world and visiting the White House......my Dad sacrificed in Vietnam, multiple tours. He loved his country. That reason alone makes me want to go.

[spurraider21]

Wow...then why did both the black and Hispanic voted increase in favor of Trump?? Seems like you fell for the left wing media propaganda
I gave you Trump's positions and quotes. That's not propaganda. Whether you go to a left wing or right wing media source, his quotes and policies are the same. I think it's natural that the black vote increase because he wasn't up against a black candidate. Also, Clinton was a very disliked candidate as well who was under FBI investigation :lol...


And you're a little off on almost all of your points and he didn't win because of those points that teetered "white nationalism"..
On which ones were I off , and how?


And I'll ask again where was this when Obama was running?
obama was a better candidate than hillary was and won an easy election because it was following the bush presidency. and for the second time, i didnt say trump won because of white nationalism. I do think he catered to that group and won anyway.

[DAF86]

"The leader of the free World" :lol

[coachmac87]

By calling out virtually every other ethnic group as the problems plaguing America.

- Muslims cheering on rooftops, proposing a full-scale ban at one point.

- Mexicans being rapists and criminals, and a judge couldn't possibly be fair because his parents were Mexican.

- Asians are screwing us by manipulating currency and stealing jobs.

- Constant portrayal of the black community at large being in "the worst shape they've ever been" (lol), almost invariably talks about inner cities every time african americans are brought up, as if that's the only place they live. One time even pointed out that a black guy was at his rally by saying "look at my african american over here".

He never said "white nationalism" as part of his campaign, but there was definitely dog-whistling and subtext to at least cater to those groups.

I will absolutely agree that it isn't right or fair to blame him for actions/views of his followers... but is it telling at the very least that people who ARE white nationalists almost unanimously supported his candidacy all along? Kind of a stretch to think it was a coincidence.

1. Facts don't care about your feelings..
2. He didn't ban ALL Muslims it was 7 countries that were picked by the Obama administration who couldn't properly vet people...but the "ban" was a leftist taking point to exaggerate what the order was.
3. He didn't say ALL Mexicans were rapist or criminals..he said some illegals have committed crimes..which is true..but like the "ban" the left painted that statement with a broad brush..
4. Yes China has manipulated the economy in their favor. That's a fact but he also respects China..another broad brush theory..
5. Yes the inner cities have issues and are in bad shape..which have been governed by the Democrats for decades plus...he used Chicago as an example..

And again he didn't win because of white nationalism lol..that's just an excuse or label used by the left for not winning the elections. I recall Van Jones stating a "white Wash" immediately after the election and tbh it's racist as hell to say such a thing.

[EIC]

How is it both ways? Trump is a despicable piece of shit. He's a terrible person and a terrible president. What good reason did Tim Thomas have for not meeting with Obama?


Only thing I can respect them for.


Because he's evil-minded. The things you mention are true and that adds to his hatred. 4 years of nothing vital getting done is something to get angry about, tbh. Then again, if you think he's been ineffectual, you're not the target of his venom.


The Warriors would most likely go visit a President Pence. Pop's as left as they come in sports and never had a problem visiting Bush. Trump is a fascist piece of shit who got elected on white nationalism. Trump is not normal no matter how many false equivalences the right tries to throw out to pretend he is. I can't believe conservatives are happy with him hijacking their party and remaking it in his image.


The man has done nothing but disrespect the office. Why show respect to the man?


Thumbs up in my book.


No, con-man TV star conspiracy theorists with multiple bankruptcies should stay out of politics.


Well that's a very solid reason to hate GSW less tbh

on a side note OP is the biggest POS of this board


:lol abysmal approval ratings
:lol vocabulary of a 5 year old
:lol forcing cabinet to compliment him
:lol can't spell
:lol covfefe
:lol fat fuck
:lol murica


If Tim Thomas wanted to boycott Obama, thats fine. But peeps are gonna ask why.

If entire GSW teams wants to boycott Trump, thats fine. But peeps are gonna ask why (and I'm sure they'd be more than happy to say).

Trump probably has early stages of dementia. Youre a fucking idiot if you even considered voting for him.

[spurraider21]

1. Facts don't care about your feelings..ok ben shapiro :lol


2. He didn't ban ALL Muslims it was 7 countries that were picked by the Obama administration who couldn't properly vet people...but the "ban" was a leftist taking point to exaggerate what the order was.i'm aware. I was referring to his proposal during the campaign that didnt' seem to turn off voters. remember when he proposed a complete and total shutdown? how did his base feel about that?

3. He didn't say ALL Mexicans were rapist or criminals..he said some illegals have committed crimes..which is true..but like the "ban" the left painted that statement with a broad brush.."When Mexico sends (lol, sends) it's people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots or problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." What picture does that paint? That they're mostly good but some of them happen to be criminals? Give me a a break.

4. Yes China has manipulated the economy in their favor. That's a fact but he also respects China..another broad brush theory..What's the broad brush? He repeatedly brought up our trade deficit with China and currency manipulation time and time again throughout his campaign. Mentioning that he respects them or has many friends in China doesn't change that he blames them for much of our economic woes.

5. Yes the inner cities have issues and are in bad shape..which have been governed by the Democrats for decades plus...he used Chicago as an example..I'm aware of the bad shape inner cities are in, and of course he always referred to Chicago, the one in worst shape. The point I made there is any time he was asked about the black community, he would default to talking about Chicago... as if the black community is just poor inner city folk.


And again he didn't win because of white nationalism lol..that's just an excuse or label used by the left for not winning the elections. I recall Van Jones stating a "white Wash" immediately after the election and tbh it's racist as hell to say such a thing.and again, for the THIRD time now, i did't say he won because of white nationalism. you keep arguing against a point i have not made and have denounced twice (not a third time). And yes I have criticized Van Jones heavily in the political forum for those statements.

[coachmac87]

ok ben shapiro :lol

i'm aware. I was referring to his proposal during the campaign that didnt' seem to turn off voters. remember when he proposed a complete and total shutdown? how did his base feel about that?
"When Mexico sends (lol, sends) it's people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots or problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." What picture does that paint? That they're mostly good but some of them happen to be criminals? Give me a a break.
What's the broad brush? He repeatedly brought up our trade deficit with China and currency manipulation time and time again throughout his campaign. Mentioning that he respects them or has many friends in China doesn't change that he blames them for much of our economic woes.
I'm aware of the bad shape inner cities are in, and of course he always referred to Chicago, the one in worst shape. The point I made there is any time he was asked about the black community, he would default to talking about Chicago... as if the black community is just poor inner city folk.

and again, for the THIRD time now, i did't say he won because of white nationalism. you keep arguing against a point i have not made and have denounced twice (not a third time). And yes I have criticized Van Jones heavily in the political forum for those statements.

Ben Shapiro is the truth...:lol

And again its not about what the picture paints..because that's interpreted differently by people. It's about facts and yes there are illegal immigrants rapist/criminals from Mexico. Yes the inner city have issues that need to be addressed. Yes China has manipulated the economy...

You brought up the word white nationalism as a reason for him winning lol...I sure as hell didn't

[spurraider21]

Ben Shapiro is the truth...:lol
i think he can be funny, and i listen to his podcast every now and again. but his little "how to debate a liberal" speeches he gives to students are cringe-worthy imo


And again its not about what the picture paints..because that's interpreted differently by people. It's about facts and yes there are illegal immigrants rapist/criminals from Mexico. Yes the inner city have issues that need to be addressed. Yes China has manipulated the economy...
i think that's where i disagree. the picture he paints is important, because that's what the voters respond to. if he paints the picture that "mexicans are dangerous, blacks are responsible for crime in cities, and our economy is struggling because of china" and voters respond accordingly, his underlying meaning and intent is buried behind the picture he painted.


You brought up the word white nationalism as a reason for him winning lol...I sure as hell didn't
he got elected on a platform that had some not-so-subtle nods at the white nationalist mindset (all of our problems are because of people who aren't white christians... muslims, mexicans, blacks, asians). he didnt get elected BECAUSE of it, but he ran that campaign and got elected despite it, which isn't pretty imo

[Mr. Body]

GS ungraciously skipping the White House party after an allegedly unanimous vote to do so.

Well, it's not like they earned the ring, anyways. Donald Trump has better things to do than to yuck it up with those imposters, anyways.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4600924/Warriors-unanimously-vote-skip-White-House-invite.html

What dipshit claims to support Donald Trump at this point? The man has Matryushka dolls stuffed up his ass but his hands are too tiny to retrieve them.

[DPG21920]

White Nationalism won him the POTUS??? Where was that white nationalism going up against Obama for two terms??

Trump won because he was a better candidate then Hillary. Period. It's a disgrace tbh how bad she is/was...the corruption and incompetence etc.

I hate that argument that Trump won because of white nationalism. Its like whites said "hey, we tried this progressive thing for 8 years with a black President, but after the pilot phase we have decided to scrap this entire thing".

You hit the nail on the head. Anyone but Hilary would have won vs Trump. But once the Dems railroaded their own guy in Bernie and then told everyone to shut up and take it they exposed themselves as the POS's they are. That plus everyone already told them Hilary was not who they wanted when they ran her vs Obama and she lost.

[spurraider21]

I hate that argument that Trump won because of white nationalism. Its like whites said "hey, we tried this progressive thing for 8 years with a black President, but after the pilot phase we have decided to scrap this entire thing".

You hit the nail on the head. Anyone but Hilary would have won vs Trump. But once the Dems railroaded their own guy in Bernie and then told everyone to shut up and take it they exposed themselves as the POS's they are. That plus everyone already told them Hilary was not who they wanted when they ran her vs Obama and she lost.
i think this was a big one. there was a big sense that she was just waiting for her turn on the throne, which is disgusting. granted, everybody who runs for president has to have some sort of ego/ambition, but hers seemed so obvious

[DPG21920]

I used to think this way, too... but I think it's shallow. It's like saying you aren't allowed to criticize the banking system for unfair policies if you use a bank. What's the alternative, tucking your money under the mattress? If you criticize America, you should leave and go live somewhere else. If you think taxes are too high, are you hypocritical for paying all of your taxes?

Would you quit your job just because one of your coworkers had committed a crime 10 years ago? And if you don't quit your job, does that mean you support that crime?

I think there is a massive difference in what you said vs what they do. I would say its more comparable to knowing your company is evil and still choosing to work there vs having a random employee that did something get hired.

Mostly because those players typically have a strong say in who's brought into the team vs me as an employee not getting any say in who a company hires.

I also think there is a massive difference in taking large sums of money and pimping yourself out only to be a social justice warrior on other things when what you did impacts others.

Me using a bank account doesn't impact others even though a bank uses unfair policies. You getting rich off of slave labor and by gouging the poor youth of the country is way different.

Then you get into the moral side of backing teammates that beat up on their wives, duck their kids, etc...I sure as hell would not be cool with a coworker who did that like these dudes are with each other as they cheat on their wives together.

[DPG21920]

But the point is these dudes are fine making a stand (which I agree with) but I just hate the rampant stupidity on the other thing and just how hypocritical people are.

[bic50]

I doubt it's dementia, he's just a piece of shit.
Well the entire government is a big corrupt pile of shit and has been for a long time now.

[coachmac87]

I hate that argument that Trump won because of white nationalism. Its like whites said "hey, we tried this progressive thing for 8 years with a black President, but after the pilot phase we have decided to scrap this entire thing".

You hit the nail on the head. Anyone but Hilary would have won vs Trump. But once the Dems railroaded their own guy in Bernie and then told everyone to shut up and take it they exposed themselves as the POS's they are. That plus everyone already told them Hilary was not who they wanted when they ran her vs Obama and she lost.

Exactly. I'm not a Trump cheerleader or anything I just try to be honest in what I see..and make my own assessment and try not to lean on what CNN/FOX tells me.

[Mikeanaro]

They had 8 years with the black bozo that formed ISIS along with Hillary, women didnt get their equal rights, the economy went to the toilet and still supporters were expecting 8 more years with Clinton.

Clinton´s supporters never cared about Bill´s sexual urges, the Clinton foundation getting a shit ton of money from arab countries... why places that hate women and gays would give any money to a bitch that is the self proclamed ¨savior of the world¨
Now the Clintons have a fortune of 360 mil dollar, how the fuck you can get that money doin´ politics?

Obozo now bought a 12 mil dollar mansion, how the fuck is he going to pay that and bills? Some ¨german publisher¨ gave him 65 mil for 2 auto bio books, thats a lame way to return him favors for all the shit he allowed, another miracle folks, just doin´poli!

Liberal shit like Bono (U2´s singer) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bono-hangs-george-bush-texas-ranch/story?id=47674742
And libtards say Bush is a classy guy, the dude behind 9/11 is ¨classy¨


People got tired of that fantasy world with no real changes and opted for Trump, so its time to deal with it and move to other things.

[soxxx]

These NBA players are the same players who supported the fake "hands up dont shoot" narrative....keep listening to the lying media.

[soxxx]

1. Facts don't care about your feelings..
2. He didn't ban ALL Muslims it was 7 countries that were picked by the Obama administration who couldn't properly vet people...but the "ban" was a leftist taking point to exaggerate what the order was.
3. He didn't say ALL Mexicans were rapist or criminals..he said some illegals have committed crimes..which is true..but like the "ban" the left painted that statement with a broad brush..
4. Yes China has manipulated the economy in their favor. That's a fact but he also respects China..another broad brush theory..
5. Yes the inner cities have issues and are in bad shape..which have been governed by the Democrats for decades plus...he used Chicago as an example..

And again he didn't win because of white nationalism lol..that's just an excuse or label used by the left for not winning the elections. I recall Van Jones stating a "white Wash" immediately after the election and tbh it's racist as hell to say such a thing.
Honestly its like talking to a wall, these are the same people who buy into the media lies like in Ferguson, where all the black witnesses confirmed that Brown was going for the cops gun, or like in Baltimore where a black judge and black jury found none of the cops to be guilty, or like in North Carolina where they claimed the man was reading a book in his car, yet a black cop, lead by a black police chief, shot the man and told him 12 times to put down his gun, and of course a gun was found at the scene but no book ever was.

But that doesnt matter, these people are zombies and listening to lies over the actual facts.

[Trill Clinton]

Wow...then why did both the black and Hispanic voted increase in favor of Trump?? Seems like you fell for the left wing media propaganda


And you're a little off on almost all of your points and he didn't win because of those points that teetered "white nationalism"..

And I'll ask again where was this when Obama was running?

nvmnd

[coachmac87]

nvmnd

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/11/trump-got-more-votes-from-people-of-color-than-romney-did-heres-the-data/

[noles1983]

Fuck Trump, this actually made me not despise GS as much

[soxxx]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/11/trump-got-more-votes-from-people-of-color-than-romney-did-heres-the-data/
Yep and he got strong amount of votes from women, the media was just about wrong about everything, as they continue to be today.

[noles1983]

They had 8 years with the black bozo that formed ISIS along with Hillary, women didnt get their equal rights, the economy went to the toilet and still supporters were expecting 8 more years with Clinton.

Clinton´s supporters never cared about Bill´s sexual urges, the Clinton foundation getting a shit ton of money from arab countries... why places that hate women and gays would give any money to a bitch that is the self proclamed ¨savior of the world¨
Now the Clintons have a fortune of 360 mil dollar, how the fuck you can get that money doin´ politics?

Obozo now bought a 12 mil dollar mansion, how the fuck is he going to pay that and bills? Some ¨german publisher¨ gave him 65 mil for 2 auto bio books, thats a lame way to return him favors for all the shit he allowed, another miracle folks, just doin´poli!

Liberal shit like Bono (U2´s singer) http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bono-hangs-george-bush-texas-ranch/story?id=47674742
And libtards say Bush is a classy guy, the dude behind 9/11 is ¨classy¨


People got tired of that fantasy world with no real changes and opted for Trump, so its time to deal with it and move to other things.

Obama forming ISIS, jesus christ you people are fucking retarded. Put down the faux news and slowly back away.

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/11/11/trump-got-more-votes-from-people-of-color-than-romney-did-heres-the-data/

i saw the 2% increase from a 6% to a whopping 8% and like spurraider said, there was no black candidate and trump ran against the worst candidate of all time.

[bic50]

Fuck Trump, this actually made me not despise GS as much
That's sad.

[coachmac87]

i saw the 2% increase from a 6% to a whopping 8% and like spurraider said, there was no black candidate and trump ran against the worst candidate of all time.

Ok soooooo how was I wrong in what I said?

[Arcadian]

Why do sports teams visit the white house anyway? It's always stupid, regardless of who's president.

[Trill Clinton]

Ok soooooo how was I wrong in what I said?

because you used that very small increase to argue spurraider's point that trump ran a campaign coded in racism without taking other factors in consideration.

[spurraider21]

because you used that very small increase to argue spurraider's point that trump ran a campaign coded in racism without taking other factors in consideration.
although to be fair, black voters in the primaries overwhelmingly supported hillary to be the candidate

[coachmac87]

because you used that very small increase to argue spurraider's point that trump ran a campaign coded in racism without taking other factors in consideration.

But if it was coded in "racism" why would it increase?? Or maybe it really wasn't racist as the left made it out to be? Why would more colored people not only blacks but Hispanic vote for the racist then Romney???

[Trill Clinton]

But if it was coded in "racism" why would it increase?? Or maybe it really wasn't racist as the left made it out to be? Why would more colored people not only blacks but Hispanic vote for the racist then Romney???

http://i64.tinypic.com/2nl66ox.gif

[Trill Clinton]

although to be fair, black voters in the primaries overwhelmingly supported hillary to be the candidate

yea there were a lot of black votrs who have blind faith to the clintons and the others would have voted for anybody but trump. i don't know the stats off the top of my head but voter turnout was very low because neither candidate did enough to earn those votes.

[coachmac87]

http://i64.tinypic.com/2nl66ox.gif

Oh I'm sorry I didn't refer to ALL colored people as blacks..

[davidbowie]

lol fuck the president

[Mikeanaro]

Obama forming ISIS, jesus christ you people are fucking retarded. Put down the faux news and slowly back away.
Ok, just keep talking about the Russian collusion and dont forget to say IMPEACH!, NOT MY PRESIDENT! and FOR TREASON! any time you mention that.

[baseline bum]

Well the entire government is a big corrupt pile of shit and has been for a long time now.

And we elected a guy whose even worse. Quite an accomplishment.

[daslicer]

Obama forming ISIS, jesus christ you people are fucking retarded. Put down the faux news and slowly back away.

This guy is not even American. He's a crazy foreigner who believes that anybody that disagrees with Trump is the enemy. He has a crazy philosophy which is that everybody needs to shut the fuck up and do what Trump tells them to do.

[baseline bum]

This guy is not even American. He's a crazy foreigner who believes that anybody that disagrees with Trump is the enemy. He has a crazy philosophy which is that everybody needs to shut the fuck up and do what Trump tells them to do.

Probably also believes Ted Cruz's dad killed Kennedy and vaccines cause autism.

[Mikeanaro]

No problem, and you guys believe in the happy world where Obama Hillary and Sanders fill their pockets with gold, lol 200 mil to Syria that very american... while you eat shit and get the country full of muslims, you have your own people fighting poverty but since they are dumbo hicks who cares, lets watch some hollyfreak liberal movie and rock on :toast

[DPG21920]

And we elected a guy whose even worse. Quite an accomplishment.

At least its out in the open now. Trump's stupidity and hubris is really the perfect symbol for how corrupt things are. The curtain has been pulled back.

Things are getting mucked up and let's see if anyone is smart enough to actually change.

[spurs10]

At least its out in the open now. Trump's stupidity and hubris is really the perfect symbol for how corrupt things are. The curtain has been pulled back.

Things are getting mucked up and let's see if anyone is smart enough to actually change. Yep.

[Spurtacular]

Oh I'm sorry I didn't refer to ALL colored people as blacks..

Blacks don't. National Association for Advancement of Colored People.

[apalisoc_9]

Man, the op legit scares me. I wouldn't piss off the op of I were you guys. The dude has shown signs of SAWM behavipur and tendencies. Next thing you know you're in the obituaries. Shot by some "mentally I'll" shooter.

[AFMadison]

No, con-man TV star conspiracy theorists with multiple bankruptcies should stay out of politics.
Lol, and not a thing to back up your claim... typical.

[baseline bum]

Lol, and not a thing to back up your claim... typical.

:lol claiming Ted Cruz's dad helped Oswald kill Kennedy
:lol claiming Obama wasn't born in the US
:lol claiming Obama and Clinton founded ISIS
:lol claiming vaccines cause autism
:lol claiming global warming is a conspiracy from China
:lol claiming Obama tapp his phones
:lol claiming he really won the popular vote and that 3-5 million illegals voted in California for Clinton
:lol claiming thousands of Muslims in New Jersey were cheering as the towers burned
:lol President Conspiritard

[baseline bum]

Lol, and not a thing to back up your claim... typical.

:lol he bankrupted a fucking casino. How do you do that?
:lol Trump airlines
:lol son in law Cuckner looking for a bank bailout just like our Dear Leader got to keep him afloat

[baseline bum]

Lol, and not a thing to back up your claim... typical.

:lol claiming over and over he was going to cover everyone with better and cheaper healthcare than Obamacare
:lol claiming no one was going to lose insurance
:lol claiming he wasn't going to touch Medicaid
:lol Trumpcare slashing Medicaid like hell and throwing 23 million people off their health insurance
:lol President Bait & Switch

[TheGreatYacht]

^ god damn :lmao
AFMadison you gotta address all that shit

[rjv]

Is anyone surprised white nationalist and Jimmer fan OP is a Trump supporter? :lol

He probably posts on 4chan with ClipperNation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=50270) :lol

[AFMadison]

:lol claiming over and over he was going to cover everyone with better and cheaper healthcare than Obamacare
:lol claiming no one was going to lose insurance
:lol claiming he wasn't going to touch Medicaid
:lol Trumpcare slashing Medicaid like hell and throwing 23 million people off their health insurance
:lol President Bait & Switch
With all those emojis you only made one claim.
I can also guarantee you that you don't speak for those 23 million people. I own "low income" rental property, and every single tenant that I've talked to is happy with Obamacare being thrown out the door. You see, democrats harp on the fact that these "helpless" people will no longer have insurance, while the majority of them were forced to pay premiums for Obamacare that hey couldn't pay for in the first place. Arguing with me over healthcare is a losing argument, start communicating with the people that it's actually affecting and you'll understand why they didn't want it in the first place. It's on a constant spiral downwards, while the cost will consistently rise. This isn't a hard thing dispute, there are facts out there, you just have to do a little research and not rely on the media telling you that "Trump is killing 23 million Americans". There should never be monopolies in America, especially when it comes to health insurance, regardless to how "bad" you feel about the people who lost it, who are being forced to pay for something they can't afford. Read the numbers, you'll see that the majority of your political party agrees with the fact that Obamacare is a failure.

[AFMadison]

^ god damn :lmao
AFMadison (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49766) you gotta address all that shit
I respect your posts, but that was pretty easy tbh.

[AFMadison]

:lol claiming Ted Cruz's dad helped Oswald kill Kennedy
:lol claiming Obama wasn't born in the US
:lol claiming Obama and Clinton founded ISIS
:lol claiming vaccines cause autism
:lol claiming global warming is a conspiracy from China
:lol claiming Obama tapp his phones
:lol claiming he really won the popular vote and that 3-5 million illegals voted in California for Clinton
:lol claiming thousands of Muslims in New Jersey were cheering as the towers burned
:lol President Conspiritard
I'll start on your first one and continue down the list.
The "birther" movement was started by a Clinton loyalist in her 2008 failed campaign.
His claim on the fact that Isis was founded by previous run parties is partly true. USA pulling out of war so quickly resulted in the rise of a ISIS regime.
On autism, Trump made his claims after a British researcher linked vaccines given for measles, and mumps to autism, meanwhile the Clinton foundation created an aids "vaccine" that was proven to be a watered down drug to make profit off the Haitian people.
Global warming is natural phenomenon with zero evidence that its man made. Humans have not even been around long enough for a study like that to exist, read a little please.
Media jumped on a frenzy over what "wire tapping" which actually means, surveillance. There are actual facts that Devin Nunez presented that the Trump administration had their communications monitored while he was running in the primaries.
Clinton did win the popular vote, but if you think that illegals didn't vote, that's a huge LOL, now deciphering those numbers is impossible. In 2008 it's reported that 2.8 million illegals voted, so I wouldn't say that Trump making a claim, in a year that registered more voters, would result in a larger amount of illegals voting.
Also, if you read New Jersey papers, and not the MSM, you will see various reports of people who were celebrating as the buildings collapsed, now saying thousands might be ridiculous, but the NJ advanced media has police offers on sight who witnessed it.
I'll be happy to answer more.

[dabom]

Is this guy serious?? :lmao



:lmao

[baseline bum]

I'll start on your first one and continue down the list.
The "birther" movement was started by a Clinton loyalist in her 2008 failed campaign.
His claim on the fact that Isis was founded by previous run parties is partly true. USA pulling out of war so quickly resulted in the rise of a ISIS regime.
On autism, Trump made his claims after a British researcher linked vaccines given for measles, and mumps to autism, meanwhile the Clinton foundation created an aids "vaccine" that was proven to be a watered down drug to make profit off the Haitian people.
Global warming is natural phenomenon with zero evidence that its man made. Humans have not even been around long enough for a study like that to exist, read a little please.
Media jumped on a frenzy over what "wire tapping" which actually means, surveillance. There are actual facts that Devin Nunez presented that the Trump administration had their communications monitored while he was running in the primaries.
Clinton did win the popular vote, but if you think that illegals didn't vote, that's a huge LOL, now deciphering those numbers is impossible. In 2008 it's reported that 2.8 million illegals voted, so I wouldn't say that Trump making a claim, in a year that registered more voters, would result in a larger amount of illegals voting.
Also, if you read New Jersey papers, and not the MSM, you will see various reports of people who were celebrating as the buildings collapsed, now saying thousands might be ridiculous, but the NJ advanced media has police offers on sight who witnessed it.
I'll be happy to answer more.

LOL bunch of excuses for the conspiritard president.

1. I see you didn't touch Cheetolini's claim Cruz's father conspired with Oswald to murder President Kennedy.
2. Instead of addressing his birtherism conspiracy theory, like most Trumptards it's :cry but Clinton :cry with you.
3. LOL Obama and Clinton founding ISIS. If you want to blame someone, blame Bush for creating the power vacuum in Iraq.
4. LOL that autism claim being completely without merit and discredited, LOL another :cry but Clinton :cry.
5. Yes, I should believe Republicans instead of scientists on global warming. Your party actually believed in global warming until the Koch Brothers created their retarded tea party to oppose it.
6. LOL Devin Nunes getting his "evidence" from the white house to present to the white house.
7. How many instances of in person voter fraud have been found? Tens of them? LOL 2.8 million.
8. Maybe you'd see it in trash like the New York Post. LOL thousands of muslims in New Jersey celebrating. At least you admit this one was bullshit.

[baseline bum]

With all those emojis you only made one claim.
I can also guarantee you that you don't speak for those 23 million people. I own "low income" rental property, and every single tenant that I've talked to is happy with Obamacare being thrown out the door. You see, democrats harp on the fact that these "helpless" people will no longer have insurance, while the majority of them were forced to pay premiums for Obamacare that hey couldn't pay for in the first place. Arguing with me over healthcare is a losing argument, start communicating with the people that it's actually affecting and you'll understand why they didn't want it in the first place. It's on a constant spiral downwards, while the cost will consistently rise. This isn't a hard thing dispute, there are facts out there, you just have to do a little research and not rely on the media telling you that "Trump is killing 23 million Americans". There should never be monopolies in America, especially when it comes to health insurance, regardless to how "bad" you feel about the people who lost it, who are being forced to pay for something they can't afford. Read the numbers, you'll see that the majority of your political party agrees with the fact that Obamacare is a failure.

Of course arguing with Trumptards is a pointless argument. The guy could shoot someone and wouldn't lose any votes from his base. LOL not even addressing Trump's healthcare policy being nothing but bait & switch after he claimed he would give universal coverage cheaper and better than the ACA while not touching Medicaid and instead taking 23 million people's insurance away.

[poop]

Stephanie curry and lebron both publically supported hillary so no surprises here. Curry, kerr and prob the whole team is all in for leftwing causes and are based in the Gay Area and know their fans would lrob boycott the team if they visited Trump lmao. Oh well, fuck them.

[BSfromTX]

And we elected a guy whose even worse. Quite an accomplishment.
Funny, we don't elect shit. Obama, trump, Clinton, bush...... Endgame the same

[xellos88330]

I'm a person that thinks it's a disgrace that a guy like Trump got to be the president of a nation, but I have to say that I can't argue with your point.

You either call out every athlete that decides not to meet the president or, even better, you let everyone do as they please.

I agree. Who cares if they meet the president or not? It makes no sense. I do think that starting dialogue is important though. Them not meeting with him basically destroys any attempt at talks. That is how things get done. Talking first. Refusing to go to the table and talk is counter productive. Because of this and the big deal people are making of it calling them heroes or them "taking a stand" will only prevent communication later by other people. Then again... they are athletes. What exactly would they talk about?

[AFMadison]

LOL bunch of excuses for the conspiritard president.

1. I see you didn't touch Cheetolini's claim Cruz's father conspired with Oswald to murder President Kennedy.
2. Instead of addressing his birtherism conspiracy theory, like most Trumptards it's :cry but Clinton :cry with you.
3. LOL Obama and Clinton founding ISIS. If you want to blame someone, blame Bush for creating the power vacuum in Iraq.
4. LOL that autism claim being completely without merit and discredited, LOL another :cry but Clinton :cry.
5. Yes, I should believe Republicans instead of scientists on global warming. Your party actually believed in global warming until the Koch Brothers created their retarded tea party to oppose it.
6. LOL Devin Nunes getting his "evidence" from the white house to present to the white house.
7. How many instances of in person voter fraud have been found? Tens of them? LOL 2.8 million.
8. Maybe you'd see it in trash like the New York Post. LOL thousands of muslims in New Jersey celebrating. At least you admit this one was bullshit.
Trump trolling at his finest, getting libtard's panties in a wad.
It's actually a fact that the Clinton administration started the birther movement, it was released to the press before the 3rd debate.
Bush actually did start it, and Obama let it balloon out of control because he's a beta sympathizer. Bush and Obama are betas.
2.8 is not far from 3, considering more people came out to vote for this election.
Its not bs, there are police reports, I'm sorry if you want to just "not believe in it".
Continue to use emojis as your facts, it make sure you look pretty stupid lol.

[AFMadison]

Of course arguing with Trumptards is a pointless argument. The guy could shoot someone and wouldn't lose any votes from his base. LOL not even addressing Trump's healthcare policy being nothing but bait & switch after he claimed he would give universal coverage cheaper and better than the ACA while not touching Medicaid and instead taking 23 million people's insurance away.
Lol at this. Way to deflect there. Why don't you address what I said..... :lol

[baseline bum]

Lol at this. Way to deflect there. Why don't you address what I said..... :lol

Why? You didn't address what I said.

[baseline bum]

Trump trolling at his finest, getting libtard's panties in a wad.
It's actually a fact that the Clinton administration started the birther movement, it was released to the press before the 3rd debate.
Bush actually did start it, and Obama let it balloon out of control because he's a beta sympathizer. Bush and Obama are betas.
2.8 is not far from 3, considering more people came out to vote for this election.
Its not bs, there are police reports, I'm sorry if you want to just "not believe in it".
Continue to use emojis as your facts, it make sure you look pretty stupid lol.

Obama let it balloon out of control 4 years before he took office? :lmao

What retard revisionist history. LOL just repeating Trump's conspiracy theories.

How about Trump trolling people who voted for him by promising his health care bill would cover everyone and how he wasn't a typical Republican because he wasn't going to cut Medicaid, Medicare, and SS? And then pushing a bill cutting 23 million people off insurance and slashing Medicaid both in Trumpcare and his budget? Though I'm fine with him zeroing out SS Disability since that's his base that's going to be taking most of that hit.

[baseline bum]

I almost hope Trumpcare goes through as passed by the house since older people without college degrees who make up his most vocal base are the ones who are going to get truly fucked by the ACHA. Then the DNC can hopefully come in and clean up the mess and provide a real healthcare plan. Obama dropped the ball thinking he could get Republican support by basing the ACA on RomneyCare.

But Murkowski doesn't seem to be on board and McConnell can only afford to lose one more vote.

[cd98]

Hold it for a minute. Because the democrats have shifted so far left that they were ruining this country, it led to an awful president like Trump. You can rip on Trump all you want, but don't stick up for the garbage healthcare plan, scared foreign policy, and overall political correctness policies that you pushed that gave us Trump.

[coachmac87]

Hold it for a minute. Because the democrats have shifted so far left that they were ruining this country, it led to an awful president like Trump. You can rip on Trump all you want, but don't stick up for the garbage healthcare plan, scared foreign policy, and overall political correctness policies that you pushed that gave us Trump.


Mic Drop

[poop]

TRUMP > clinton/obama

[baseline bum]

Hold it for a minute. Because the democrats have shifted so far left that they were ruining this country, it led to an awful president like Trump. You can rip on Trump all you want, but don't stick up for the garbage healthcare plan, scared foreign policy, and overall political correctness policies that you pushed that gave us Trump.

The Democrats shifted so far left by implementing Romney's health care plan? :lol

[Mikeanaro]

That shitty healthcare has been going on for years, you cant just expect Trump or anybody will fix it in 6 months, everything has a price now that I think about it, the money that could go on health goes to the army nasa and lots of departments USA has to be a world leader, people is expendable thats the philosophy.

[rjv]

hah, the dems have shifted about as far left as this thread has currently shifted to being about basketball.

[DPG21920]

The DEMS shifted far left in that they are greedy corrupt people who would rather anoint candidates they owe favors to rather than listen to the people.

So ya. That's on the DEMS. Thanks guys and girls!

[dabom]

hah, the dems have shifted about as far left as this thread has currently shifted to being about basketball.

Trumpateer MOD. :lmao

[dabom]

All the major cities in Texas voted Blue. Thank God. The shift is coming. And if Texas ever turns blue, you can bet it was because of this RED retoric.

[baseline bum]

Here is an actual example of a party shifting to a lunatic fringe

2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154

2017: Hurr durr global warming is a Chinese conspiracy

[cd98]

The Democrats shifted so far left by implementing Romney's health care plan? :lol

Romney went left on healthcare. He was the governor of the bluest of states. But forcing it on the whole country and lying about people losing their plans and doctors, now that was a gem of your party. And it has cost them through several election cycles.

[Phenomanul]

All this talk of health care and government... bleh.

It isn't the government's job to manage all the bad decisions of it citizens... Sure drink up all of the soda, eat all of the fast food, smoke it up and then when you have overweight problems, circulatory system/cardiac problems, cirrhosis or diabetes have everyone else pay for your bad life decisions... all under the banner of typical socialist mantra, "it's everyone else's fault that I chose not to live a healthy life".

Deep down even the staunch blue-bloods know this ideology is bull.

[cd98]

All the major cities in Texas voted Blue. Thank God. The shift is coming. And if Texas ever turns blue, you can bet it was because of this RED retoric.

Yes let's all pray that we can become the next CA. So we can have an income tax imposed on us and the local mailman can make $100,000 a year. We can provide free sex changes and riot whenever someone says something we don't agree with. Paradise is coming.

[dabom]

Yes let's all pray that we can become the next CA. So we can have an income tax imposed on us and the local mailman can make $100,000 a year. We can provide free sex changes and riot whenever someone says something we don't agree with. Paradise is coming.
Its over for the repubs if Texas ever turns blue. That's not a joke.

[baseline bum]

Romney went left on healthcare. He was the governor of the bluest of states. But forcing it on the whole country and lying about people losing their plans and doctors, now that was a gem of your party. And it has cost them through several election cycles.

He fucked up thinking he could get Republicans to support something just because they supported before. Obama was naive as hell.

[baseline bum]

Its over for the repubs if Texas ever turns blue. That's not a joke.

Texas isn't turning blue. I don't know why people have been saying this shit for ten years now.

[dabom]

Texas isn't turning blue. I don't know why people have been saying this shit for ten years now.

Bet 20 years.

[dabom]

I'll do a account bet. Your poster name vs mine.

[baseline bum]

Bet 20 years.

In 20 years we'll be right about to turn purple the next election. Then again in 20 years.

[baseline bum]

I'll do a account bet. Your poster name vs mine.

LOL at the idea that spurstalk will be around in 20 years.

[dabom]

LOL at the idea that spurstalk will be around in 20 years.

I think it would. The internet is still gonna be here.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Bet 20 years.

The NE outside of NY and maybe VT will turn red before Texas would turn blue. Not to mention the Michigan's, Ohio's, Pennsylvania's, Wisconsin's, and Minnesota's type states all becoming solidly red.

[cd98]

He fucked up thinking he could get Republicans to support something just because they supported before. Obama was naive as hell.

Republicans didn't support it, New England Dems did. Republicans spent years trying to explain why Romney did it. Which obviously never worked. The writing was on the wall on how unpopular the bill would be before he signed it. But like all elitist liberals, he knows what's better for us and the ends justify lying to our faces.

[baseline bum]

I think it would. The internet is still gonna be here.

John McCain and Ms Avon Lady took Texas by 12 points when everybody was sick of Bush's shit and every republican voter I knew wanted McCain to get hit by a Mack truck. Texas ain't going blue.

[cd98]

Its over for the repubs if Texas ever turns blue. That's not a joke.

Dems just lost the rust belt to a clown. I would worry about the rust belt before I dream of Texas turning blue.

[dabom]

John McCain and Ms Avon Lady took Texas by 12 points when everybody was sick of Bush's shit and every republican voter I knew wanted McCain to get hit by a Mack truck. Texas ain't going blue.
How did the major cities fare vs this election cycle?

[dabom]

Texas has a good size hispanic base. It's continuing to grow. And city people are tired of republican bullshit. :lmao

[baseline bum]

Republicans didn't support it, New England Dems did. Republicans spent years trying to explain why Romney did it. Which obviously never worked. The writing was on the wall on how unpopular the bill would be before he signed it. But like all elitist liberals, he knows what's better for us and the ends justify lying to our faces.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2013/nov/15/ellen-qualls/aca-gop-health-care-plan-1993/

1993: Health care takes center stage

President Bill Clinton took on an ill-fated effort to reform health care in 1993. As the president’s task force (led by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton) worked behind closed doors to craft solutions to ever-rising health care costs and a growing number of uninsured families, Republicans scrambled to forge an alternative.

Republican Sen. John Chafee of Rhode Island was the point man. The bill he introduced, Health Equity and Access Reform Today, (yes, that spells HEART) had a list of 20 co-sponsors that was a who’s who of Republican leadership. There was Minority Leader Bob Dole, R- Kan., Sens. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and many others. There also were two Democratic co-sponsors.

Among other features, the Chafee bill included:

An individual mandate;

Creation of purchasing pools;

Standardized benefits;

Vouchers for the poor to buy insurance;

A ban on denying coverage based on a pre-existing condition.

"You would find a great deal of similarity to provisions in the Affordable Care Act," Sheila Burke, Dole’s chief of staff in 1993, told PunditFact via email. "The guys were way ahead of the times!! Different crowd, different time, suffice it to say."

[baseline bum]

How did the major cities fare vs this election cycle?

Like they always do.

[dabom]

Like they always do.

Try again.

[baseline bum]

Try again.

People vote Democrat in the cities. Your point?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

If current trends continue... maybe in 25-30 years:


http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x85/hurriandrewfury1209/Capture_zpsjuc1fbp0.jpg

[dabom]

People vote Democrat in the cities. Your point?

Not as historical as this year... in Texas.

[baseline bum]

If current trends continue... maybe in 25-30 years:


http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x85/hurriandrewfury1209/Capture_zpsjuc1fbp0.jpg

Texas blue and Massachusetts red :lmao

[UNT Eagles 2016]

People vote Democrat in the cities. Your point?

You can thank all the hobo tyrone fucks on the streets for that, as well as the other fucks living off the government in the cities (close to half).

[cd98]

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2013/nov/15/ellen-qualls/aca-gop-health-care-plan-1993/

1993: Health care takes center stage

President Bill Clinton took on an ill-fated effort to reform health care in 1993. As the president’s task force (led by First Lady Hillary Rodham Clinton) worked behind closed doors to craft solutions to ever-rising health care costs and a growing number of uninsured families, Republicans scrambled to forge an alternative.

Republican Sen. John Chafee of Rhode Island was the point man. The bill he introduced, Health Equity and Access Reform Today, (yes, that spells HEART) had a list of 20 co-sponsors that was a who’s who of Republican leadership. There was Minority Leader Bob Dole, R- Kan., Sens. Orrin Hatch, R-Utah, Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, Richard Lugar, R-Ind., and many others. There also were two Democratic co-sponsors.

Among other features, the Chafee bill included:

An individual mandate;

Creation of purchasing pools;

Standardized benefits;

Vouchers for the poor to buy insurance;

A ban on denying coverage based on a pre-existing condition.

"You would find a great deal of similarity to provisions in the Affordable Care Act," Sheila Burke, Dole’s chief of staff in 1993, told PunditFact via email. "The guys were way ahead of the times!! Different crowd, different time, suffice it to say."

Oh you mean a few senators that included democrats proposed a plan with some tenants of Obamacare merely to scramble together an alternative bill so they could say that they had an alternative bill that they knew would never pass constitutes "republicans supported Obamacare." Nice try, but I've read these Dem talking points. The Obamacare wasn't a failure bc republicans universally opposed it. It was a failure because it was a horrible bill regardless of which party proposed it.

[baseline bum]

You can thank all the hobo tyrone fucks on the streets for that, as well as the other fucks living off the government in the cities (close to half).

So you're saying Massachusetts is going to import all their hobos to Texas?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Texas blue and Massachusetts red :lmao

Don't laugh. The trend is: influx of minorities (mainly Hispanics) into the border states and white people who don't like them. Think of the Foxborough Patriots, Tom Brady, Robert Kraft culture, etc. And Trump rallies in MA were madhouses from January through November last year. MA is >85% white. They're in the next set of dominos to fall after the Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania group (though it'll take a few more election cycles from now).

[baseline bum]

Oh you mean a few senators that included democrats proposed a plan with some tenants of Obamacare merely to scramble together an alternative bill so they could say that they had an alternative bill that they knew would never pass constitutes "republicans supported Obamacare." Nice try, but I've read these Dem talking points. The Obamacare wasn't a failure bc republicans universally opposed it. It was a failure because it was a horrible bill regardless of which party proposed it.

I mean he used ideas high ranking republicans supported in the past. LOL at your idea the democrats somehow went far left. If you want to see a party actually swing far towards a lunatic fringe, here is a real example of it:

2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154

2017: Hurr durr global warming is a Chinese conspiracy

[UNT Eagles 2016]

So you're saying Massachusetts is going to import all their hobos to Texas?

Keyword, tyrones. Tyrell's, deshawns, jabari's and jamals. Massachusetts isn't rife with those fuckers.

[cd98]

I mean he used ideas high ranking republicans supported in the past. LOL at your idea the democrats somehow went far left. If you want to see a party actually swing far towards a lunatic fringe, here is a real example of it:

2008:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi6n_-wB154

2017: Hurr durr global warming is a Chinese conspiracy

Hey I don't deny Repubs have gone...I don't know where. I mean, Trump is an overreaction. But your party thought it was more important to talk about who should use which bathroom than jobs. And while there are reasonable compromises to be made on immigration, the left's vision is so extreme as to erase any distinction between Mexico and the US. They favor no limits at the border as Clinton pandered to during the last election. While building a wall is one extreme, pretending like Mexico is an extension of the Texas border is quite another.

[DPG21920]

Texas blue and Massachusetts red :lmao

Hey, people were laughing too when Trump ran and look what happened. Thanks DEMS for being idiot crooks!

[baseline bum]

Hey I don't deny Repubs have gone...I don't know where. I mean, Trump is an overreaction. But your party thought it was more important to talk about who should use which bathroom than jobs. And while there are reasonable compromises to be made on immigration, the left's vision is so extreme as to erase any distinction between Mexico and the US. They favor no limits at the border as Clinton pandered to during the last election. While building a wall is one extreme, pretending like Mexico is an extension of the Texas border is quite another.

Yeah Clinton was definitely a fuck up of unbelievable proportion. Instead of talking about how Trump would kick million off healthcare it was let's talk about Alicia Machado.

[cd98]

Yeah Clinton was definitely a fuck up of unbelievable proportion. Instead of talking about how Trump would kick million off healthcare it was let's talk about Alicia Machado.

Yes, but those millions are losing insurance anyway. People can't afford the insurance that Obamacare is providing and the coverage sucks. People are opting to "pay the penalty" that Obama kept pushing back every year. But hey, I'm not sticking up for Trumps plan, so you can save your rant. I'm against universal healthcare because it is not an attainable goal without creating huge premiums and crappy coverage and poor medical services. I don't know how we fix insurance. It's a mess and the government taking it over will only make it worse. But alas Obama brought us down this path and once you give out government freebies, they is no turning back. People are all in on covering preexisting illnesses and giving everyone coverage, but they don't get the cost, esp on the middle class, and just how poor their healthcare will be.

[baseline bum]

Yes, but those millions are losing insurance anyway. People can't afford the insurance that Obamacare is providing and the coverage sucks. People are opting to "pay the penalty" that Obama kept pushing back every year. But hey, I'm not sticking up for Trumps plan, so you can save your rant. I'm against universal healthcare because it is not an attainable goal without creating huge premiums and crappy coverage and poor medical services. I don't know how we fix insurance. It's a mess and the government taking it over will only make it worse. But alas Obama brought us down this path and once you give out government freebies, they is no turning back. People are all in on covering preexisting illnesses and giving everyone coverage, but they don't get the cost, esp on the middle class, and just how poor their healthcare will be.

I don't buy that. Other countries in the first world have figured it out, and the US is a lot richer than they are. Before the ACA we paid way more than any other 1st world country for our healthcare. It's not like healthcare just got expensive in 2013.

[poop]

Texas has a good size hispanic base. It's continuing to grow. And city people are tired of republican bullshit. :lmao

Plenty of hispanics arent democrats...esp if the media stopped pumping 24/7 'republicans hate 'mexicans'' propaganda i bet 50% would already vote repub.

Remember Wendy 'gonna turn texas blue!' Davis? How'd that work out for you :lol

[poop]

And of course all the major cities voted for hillary. Virtually every big city in america, regardless of the state, have a Dem mayor. This is because the democrat base- the urban ghettos and college kids- are all concentrated in the big cities

[cd98]

I don't buy that. Other countries in the first world have figured it out, and the US is a lot richer than they are. Before the ACA we paid way more than any other 1st world country for our healthcare. It's not like healthcare just got expensive in 2013.

Figured it out? It's expensive with worse care. They figured that out. But once you go universal healthcare, politically, you can't turn back. That's why Repubs running on repealing Obamacare is so funny. There's no way to do it politically.

Healthcare has gotten more expensive because the improved treatment is expensive. It used to be mostly available to the people who could afford insurance. But now it's there for everyone. That means rationing as they don't have the resources to give it to everyone. It also means that the people that could afford insurance are now footing the bill for those who couldn't. That's a tight squeeze on the middle class who will also have to wait in line to get treatment behind some of the folks that are paying little to nothing. That's how universal healthcare works.

[baseline bum]

Figured it out? It's expensive with worse care. They figured that out. But once you go universal healthcare, politically, you can't turn back. That's why Repubs running on repealing Obamacare is so funny. There's no way to do it politically.

Healthcare has gotten more expensive because the improved treatment is expensive. It used to be mostly available to the people who could afford insurance. But now it's there for everyone. That means rationing as they don't have the resources to give it to everyone. It also means that the people that could afford insurance are now footing the bill for those who couldn't. That's a tight squeeze on the middle class who will also have to wait in line to get treatment behind some of the folks that are paying little to nothing. That's how universal healthcare works.

We have been paying way more than the rest of the world on healthcare for years. 17.6% of GDP in 2010, right in the middle of the medical bankruptcy era. No one else was close to that, not countries with universal coverage.

http://www-tc.pbs.org/prod-media/newshour/photos/2012/10/02/At_17.6_percent_of_GDP_in_2010_slideshow.jpg

We pay the highest prices for bad outcomes and we have for years. Our healthcare system was broken and unsustainable before Obama, this didn't just start recently.

[AFMadison]

Obama let it balloon out of control 4 years before he took office? :lmao

What retard revisionist history. LOL just repeating Trump's conspiracy theories.

How about Trump trolling people who voted for him by promising his health care bill would cover everyone and how he wasn't a typical Republican because he wasn't going to cut Medicaid, Medicare, and SS? And then pushing a bill cutting 23 million people off insurance and slashing Medicaid both in Trumpcare and his budget? Though I'm fine with him zeroing out SS Disability since that's his base that's going to be taking most of that hit.
Insurance carriers have until June 2018 to choose how they go about the healthcare reform, it's honestly too early to make a judgement imo. All this negative talk of Trumpcare is a bunch of hypotheticals of what "could" go wrong. Just like how they said the stock market "could" tank under Trump, but yet it's at an ALL time high, something the MSM won't report. Again, you don't speak for those 23 million people.

[AFMadison]

I don't buy that. Other countries in the first world have figured it out, and the US is a lot richer than they are. Before the ACA we paid way more than any other 1st world country for our healthcare. It's not like healthcare just got expensive in 2013.
Lol take the L

[rjv]

Trumpateer MOD. :lmao conditional fallacy

[AFMadison]

Why? You didn't address what I said.
I did, I covered every point, way to deflect again. I see your emojis have faded once I force fed you facts, something the left can't seem to handle.

[baseline bum]

Insurance carriers have until June 2018 to choose how they go about the healthcare reform, it's honestly too early to make a judgement imo. All this negative talk of Trumpcare is a bunch of hypotheticals of what "could" go wrong. Just like how they said the stock market "could" tank under Trump, but yet it's at an ALL time high, something the MSM won't report. Again, you don't speak for those 23 million people.

Those 23 million must be that 17% that approve of Trumpcare.

[dabom]

conditional fallacy

Please tell me more about fallacies.

[AFMadison]

Texas has a good size hispanic base. It's continuing to grow. And city people are tired of republican bullshit. :lmao
Yeaaaaaa so tired of it.
Trump wins election*

[baseline bum]

I did, I covered every point, way to deflect again. I see your emojis have faded once I force fed you facts, something the left can't seem to handle.

Bullshit son, you sailed right past Trump claiming he would provide universal coverage and not touch medicaid on the campaign trail only to have him try to kick 23 million people off insurance and gut medicaid in Trumpcare and his budget. More Trump trolling?

[dabom]

Yeaaaaaa so tired of it.
Trump wins election*

Am I talking about this election you stupid fuck? :lmao

[AFMadison]

Those 23 million must be that 17% that approve of Trumpcare.
Lol, well yea 17% if we go back to March, but I'll let you stay in that month, since it fits your agenda more.

[AFMadison]

Am I talking about this election you stupid fuck? :lmao
You're talking about a current consensus, and currently, Donald Trump is your president :hat

[GSH]

Bullshit son, you sailed right past Trump claiming he would provide universal coverage and not touch medicaid on the campaign trail only to have him try to kick 23 million people off insurance and gut medicaid in Trumpcare and his budget. More Trump trolling?


"If you like your policy, you can keep you policy."

You STILL can't have it both ways. If lies and broken promises bother you, there's plenty of blame to go around. Why would you let one guy off the hook? The difference between us is that I hate 'em all.

[baseline bum]

"If you like your policy, you can keep you policy."

You STILL can't have it both ways. If lies and broken promises bother you, there's plenty of blame to go around. Why would you let one guy off the hook? The difference between us is that I hate 'em all.

Yeah you hate em all. I always hear that from reliable republican voters.

[DPG21920]

Yeah you hate em all. I always hear that from reliable republican voters.

:lmao Hillary voters throwing stones at Republican voters. Now I've seen it all.

[dabom]

Yeah you hate em all. I always hear that from reliable republican voters.

"They're both bad" - repubs :lol

[baseline bum]

:lmao Hillary voters throwing stones at Republican voters. Now I've seen it all.

I don't pretend I don't vote one way or the other. I can't count how many people I know who say they hate both sides and they're independents and then they tell me they voted a straight GOP ticket.

[dabom]

Yes Hillary is just as bad as orangutan. :lol

[RD2191]

The entire US will soon go blue, old white fucks that are yearning for the good old days will soon die off.

[DPG21920]

I don't pretend I don't vote one way or the other. I can't count how many people I know who say they hate both sides and they're independents and then they tell me they voted a straight GOP ticket.

Well then I don't get the throwing of stones and that is what is exactly wrong with DEMS. Who gives a damn what you say, it's what you do. If you vote for a POS party that would trot out Hillary and then rig it in her favor, you really have no room.

The fact that REP are at least embarrassed by their actions speaks louder to me than being someone who doesn't hide what they do when its awful.

[DPG21920]

Yes Hillary is just as bad as orangutan. :lol

She's worse :lol She lost to Trump :lmao

[baseline bum]

Well then I don't get the throwing of stones and that is what is exactly wrong with DEMS. Who gives a damn what you say, it's what you do. If you vote for a POS party that would trot out Hillary and then rig it in her favor, you really have no room.

The fact that REP are at least embarrassed by their actions speaks louder to me than being someone who doesn't hide what they do when its awful.

Are you 12? Do you not know how government works? I didn't feel bad voting for Clinton because Ryan would be an enormous check and balance against her, she'd never get any of her agenda through the house. It was a far better situation than Trump becoming president and having a friendly Ryan + McConnell to implement his agenda. Even though I vote mostly democrat I would have voted Trump as a fuck you to Clinton if the shoe was on the other foot and Pelosi had an insurmountable house majority heading into the 2016 election. In an election that bad you should vote for the one who could do the least damage and that was Clinton with a house hostile to her (the senate was likely going to whoever won the presidency).

[DPG21920]

Are you 12? Do you not know how government works? I didn't feel bad voting for Clinton because Ryan would be an enormous check and balance against her, she'd never get any of her agenda through the house. It was a far better situation than Trump becoming president and having a friendly Ryan + McConnell to implement his agenda. Even though I vote mostly democrat I would have voted Trump as a fuck you to Clinton if the shoe was on the other foot and Pelosi had an insurmountable house majority heading into the 2016 election. In an election that bad you should vote for the one who could do the least damage and that was Clinton with a house hostile to her (the senate was likely going to whoever won the presidency).

That seems like an awful lot of justification for someone who knowingly bows to the system and votes for known corruption vs taking a stand.

Either way, it ends up with Trump in office, however you can at least look yourself in the mirror and say you didn't vote Hillary because "your party" ran her when you admit she's a steaming pile of corruption.

[baseline bum]

That seems like an awful lot of justification for someone who knowingly bows to the system and votes for known corruption vs taking a stand.

Either way, it ends up with Trump in office, however you can at least look yourself in the mirror and say you didn't vote Hillary because "your party" ran her when you admit she's a steaming pile of corruption.

Ooh so I vote for conman Trump who is a much bigger steaming pile of corruption?

[baseline bum]

That seems like an awful lot of justification for someone who knowingly bows to the system and votes for known corruption vs taking a stand.

Either way, it ends up with Trump in office, however you can at least look yourself in the mirror and say you didn't vote Hillary because "your party" ran her when you admit she's a steaming pile of corruption.

Is this like when you were trolling me for saying Manu was perfectly justified in telling his fans on his own website that he didn't believe in any god when one asked his religious beliefs?

[DPG21920]

Is this like when you were trolling me for saying Manu was perfectly justified in telling his fans on his own website that he didn't believe in any god?

What does that have to do with this discussion other than deflecting?

[baseline bum]

What does that have to do with this discussion other than deflecting?

I can't tell if you're trolling or not. Were you back then? Are you now?

[DPG21920]

Ooh so I vote for conman Trump who is a much bigger steaming pile of corruption?

No - you take a stand and abstain or vote for a third party. Either way, Trump is in office, but send a message to your party by having a massive downturn in voting for Hillary that you won't stand for what they did.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Hold it for a minute. Because the democrats have shifted so far left that they were ruining this country, it led to an awful president like Trump. You can rip on Trump all you want, but don't stick up for the garbage healthcare plan, scared foreign policy, and overall political correctness policies that you pushed that gave us Trump.

Does your dumb ass really think that Clinton is "far left."

What does that make Sanders? Karl Marx reincarnate?

[DPG21920]

I can't tell if you're trolling or not. Were you back then? Are you now?

Neither. You can take a moment that ST ran with and turn into some non-related point if you want. What you are referring to, as was explained then, was me saying that it was a bit of a PR nightmare to discuss religion so openly. Especially since it seems like so many in SA (hispanics) are devout religious peoples.

I never cared whether or not Manu believed or did not. Was I wrong in what I said? Maybe. But that's what was said.

[baseline bum]

No - you take a stand and abstain or vote for a third party. Either way, Trump is in office, but send a message to your party by having a massive downturn in voting for Hillary that you won't stand for what they did.

Third party? What a jerkoff third party votes are in the US. Our constitution effectively mandates a two party system when it comes to presidential elections since if no one gets a majority of the electoral vote the party in power in congress picks the president.

[baseline bum]

Does your dumb ass really think that Clinton is "far left."

What does that make Sanders? Karl Marx reincarnate?

No that's Obama.

[DPG21920]

Third party? What a jerkoff third party votes are in the US. Our constitution effectively mandates a two party system when it comes to presidential elections since if no one gets a majority of the electoral vote the party in power in congress picks the president.

Sure - but that's not the point. The point is if DEMS see that no one votes for their candidate (that they were already told was not the candidate DEM voters wanted) maybe they get the message.

Either way, with your vote or not, Trump is in office. At least the people you are throwing such mighty stones at are by in large ashamed they voted for Trump. You and other DEMS don't seem ashamed at all and you should be.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That seems like an awful lot of justification for someone who knowingly bows to the system and votes for known corruption vs taking a stand.

Either way, it ends up with Trump in office, however you can at least look yourself in the mirror and say you didn't vote Hillary because "your party" ran her when you admit she's a steaming pile of corruption.


:lol taking a stand. It's called dealing with the world as it is as opposed to they way you want it to be, dim.

:lol singling out a politician for corruption in the era of Citizens United

[baseline bum]

Sure - but that's not the point. The point is if DEMS see that no one votes for their candidate (that they were already told was not the candidate DEM voters wanted) maybe they get the message.

Either way, with your vote or not, Trump is in office. At least the people you are throwing such mighty stones at are by in large ashamed they voted for Trump. You and other DEMS don't seem ashamed at all and you should be.

Really? Which Trump voters here are ashamed of their vote?

[DPG21920]

Really? Which Trump voters here are ashamed of their vote?

Um, the many voters that polls showed were not happy with Trump even though they voted for him both pre & post election.

[DPG21920]

:lol taking a stand. It's called dealing with the world as it is as opposed to they way you want it to be, dim.

:lol singling out a politician for corruption in the era of Citizens United

You are fine in believing that you just don't get to complain about anything IMO. If you know you aren't doing anything to change an issue you don't get to b*tch either.

[RD2191]

No - you take a stand and abstain or vote for a third party. Either way, Trump is in office, but send a message to your party by having a massive downturn in voting for Hillary that you won't stand for what they did.

That's not the way the world works, sometimes you have to choose between the lesser of two evils. Now we're stuck with a psychopath as president because of people who think like you.

[RD2191]

:lol taking a stand. It's called dealing with the world as it is as opposed to they way you want it to be, dim.

:lol singling out a politician for corruption in the era of Citizens United

TBH

[DPG21920]

:lol taking a stand. It's called dealing with the world as it is as opposed to they way you want it to be, dim.

:lol singling out a politician for corruption in the era of Citizens United

I'm not singling anyone out. Hillary is who DEMS ran and she's the face of corruption in politics. Trump is crooked as is much of the REP party. They all are for the most part.

What does that have to do with being part of the problem and continuing to turn out and vote for them? Why would DEMS change what they are doing when they know you will just shut up and vote D no matter what they do or who they run?

[baseline bum]

Um, the many voters that polls showed were not happy with Trump even though they voted for him both pre & post election.

So why is my vote for Clinton any different then? I have made it pretty clear I'm not happy with her and never was.

[DPG21920]

That's not the way the world works, sometimes you have to choose between the lesser of two evils. Now we're stuck with a psychopath as president because of people who think like you.

Nah. We are stuck with this a**hole of a president because of the way DEMS think. They think they can sh*t on everyone and trot out a candidate like Hillary who is the only perso who would have lost to Trump.

There is a reason Obama won 2x. There have always been a**hole REP and that didn't matter when Obama ran.

[DPG21920]

So why is my vote for Clinton any different then? I have made it pretty clear I'm not happy with her and never was.

Because Trump was the nuclear option (IMO). He wasn't the real vote. He was not the "hey, well he's wearing a red tie, some I'm voting for him" guy. He just happened to be a REP.

Hell, REP don't even like Trump and he sh*ts on them openly. Hillary was the DEM candidate. They even rigged this crap for her. That didn't happen with Trump. It became Trump when it was Hillary who was the opposition.

[baseline bum]

That's not the way the world works, sometimes you have to choose between the lesser of two evils. Now we're stuck with a psychopath as president because of people who think like you.

Scary bad hombre: Give me your wallet or I'll shoot you.
DPG: Durr those are both bad, I choose neither.

[DPG21920]

Scary bad hombre: Give me your wallet or I'll shoot you.
DPG: Durr those are both bad, I choose neither.

Ok. Again, explain logically, what will force your party to change from running the Hillary's of the world out when you vote for her still. This loss is not doing it. Both the DEM supporters and people in power STILL seem to miss the boat on why they lost.

Hell, even you admit you are pissed at what they did AND YOU STILL VOTED.

[baseline bum]

Because Trump was the nuclear option (IMO). He wasn't the real vote. He was not the "hey, well he's wearing a red tie, some I'm voting for him" guy. He just happened to be a REP.

Hell, REP don't even like Trump and he sh*ts on them openly. Hillary was the DEM candidate. They even rigged this crap for her. That didn't happen with Trump. It became Trump when it was Hillary who was the opposition.

Ooh the GOP says mean things about Trump to look good on TV and then go vote for his shit anyways.

How is Trump not a real vote after getting nominated by one of the two parties? The not a real vote are the ones for the 3rd parties you're advocating.

[DPG21920]

Ooh the GOP says mean things about Trump to look good on TV and then go vote for his shit anyways.

How is Trump not a real vote after getting nominated by one of the two parties? The not a real vote are the ones for the 3rd parties you're advocating.

:lmao It's funny how your first sentence sounds similar to your voting for Hillary logic because " that is how the world is". Why are you mad then. If it just boils down to that, then what does that say about your stupid party that they lost to Trump :lol?

[DPG21920]

REP rigged things for Trump? That's what I meant by real candidate. Hillary was literally proven to have things rigged in her favor within her own party and NOTHING happened (except for Trump winning, so thanks for that guys :tu)