Woj: CP3 traded to the Rockets

[TimDunkem]

:lol Spurs
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[Killakobe81]

need details ... and does Blake stay now?

[TimDunkem]

For a few bags of chips too. Ouch. :lmao Spurs.

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[140]

:lol spurms

[TimDunkem]

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[140]

CP0 joining forces with another playoff choker :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Holy shit... I guess West wants to rebuild :wow

Glad we're not on the hook for giving that choking faggot $207 million.

[dbreiden83080]

CP0 joining forces with another playoff choker :lol

And they'll play great, with the media kissing their ass during the reg season all year long. Until the playoffs start..

[LaMarcus Bryant]

LOL This will be the most epic team of chokers since Mavs 07

[monosylab1k]

Giving up Beverly and Lou..... tbh I bet this makes Houston way worse.

[TDMVPDPOY]

yet the sperms doing nothing circle jerking in the summer?

[baseline bum]

Fuck, I thought this was a troll thread. I don't get this one, Harden was killing shit at the point and I'm not sure you want to take the ball out of his hands. Still, if you can get A+ talent like CP3 you do it and try to figure things out later I guess. Damn I thought the Spurs had a real shot at CP3. Now they're going to have to chase B-level talent like Griffin or Hayward, or even worse overpay C-level talent like George Hill.

[TimDunkem]

Fuck, I thought this was a troll thread. I don't get this one, Harden was killing shit at the point and I'm not sure you want to take the ball out of his hands. Still, if you can get A+ talent like CP3 you do it and try to figure things out later I guess. Damn I thought the Spurs had a real shot at CP3. Now they're going to have to chase B-level talent like Griffin or Hayward, or even worse overpay C-level talent like George Hill.
Plan C incoming.

[Clipper Nation]

Giving up Beverly and Lou..... tbh I bet this makes Houston way worse.
They gave us a first-round pick on top of that, too :lol

:lmao Morey

[baseline bum]

Giving up Beverly and Lou..... tbh I bet this makes Houston way worse.

LOL Lou Williams thinking he was set after AIDS traded him to Houston. Now he gets to go to another Lakers situation. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Haven't heard about Lou, but that's still a win as they have Gordon still.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why didn't clippers traded for younger talent and rookies?

don't tell me they going to keep blake and Jordan, when they should be rebuilding...u aint winning shit with those pieces of trash from rockets

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Fuck, I thought this was a troll thread. I don't get this one, Harden was killing shit at the point and I'm not sure you want to take the ball out of his hands. Still, if you can get A+ talent like CP3 you do it and try to figure things out later I guess. Damn I thought the Spurs had a real shot at CP3. Now they're going to have to chase B-level talent like Griffin or Hayward, or even worse overpay C-level talent like George Hill.

Powder Griffin would be a godsend over Choke Paul

[baseline bum]

Plan C incoming.

Yeah Hayward to Boston sounds like it's going to happen, and I imagine West will be able to keep Griffin. I really don't want to see the Spurs drop $20 million on Hill who is a spectacularly bad defender unless they can land a decent prospect or two in an Aldridge salary dump.

[TimDunkem]

EVERYONE is upgrading. Meanwhile, Spurs will marginally upgrade with a retread on George Hill on a new 20+ million a year deal. :lol

[unleashbaynes]

Idk how this is gonna work.....Harden and CP both need the ball in their hands....

[Xevious]

Spurs aren't getting shit this summer. Just deal with it.

[Thebesteva]

Lmao SpurS fans thinking that anyone outside of LMA wants to live in that shithole

[140]

They gave us a first-round pick on top of that, too :lol

:lmao Morey

If Blake comes back and stays healthy you might have a shot at getting past the 2nd round now tbh

[Thebesteva]

Lmao SpurS fans thinking that anyone outside of LMA wants to live in that shithole

[monosylab1k]

Beverley gives the Clippers actual toughness, as opposed to the fake toughness CP3 infested in the team. I'd bet anything the Clippers finish ahead of Houston if they keep Blake.

[Killakobe81]

Fuck, I thought this was a troll thread. I don't get this one, Harden was killing shit at the point and I'm not sure you want to take the ball out of his hands. Still, if you can get A+ talent like CP3 you do it and try to figure things out later I guess. Damn I thought the Spurs had a real shot at CP3. Now they're going to have to chase B-level talent like Griffin or Hayward, or even worse overpay C-level talent like George Hill.

In CIA Pop you must trust ...
Lol Spurs ...
Lol Clips ...

tbh with a smart move i think Spurs can still beat Rox but they will be a problem ...

[Killakobe81]

Fuck, I thought this was a troll thread. I don't get this one, Harden was killing shit at the point and I'm not sure you want to take the ball out of his hands. Still, if you can get A+ talent like CP3 you do it and try to figure things out later I guess. Damn I thought the Spurs had a real shot at CP3. Now they're going to have to chase B-level talent like Griffin or Hayward, or even worse overpay C-level talent like George Hill.

In CIA Pop you must trust ...
Lol Spurs ...
Lol Clips ...

tbh with a smart move i think Spurs can still beat Rox but they will be a problem ...

[StrengthAndHonor]

Holy shit... I guess West wants to rebuild :wow

Glad we're not on the hook for giving that choking faggot $207 million.
Exactly!


This is very much a Jerry West move. I hope Doc Rivers is next.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Austin rivers face of the clippers? lmao LA toe clippers

[TDMVPDPOY]

this move means harden takes himself out mvp next year? therefor kawhi will win it?

[FkLA]

Sucks for the Spurs but also for CP3. Now he has noone to blame but himself for not winning shit.

[StrengthAndHonor]

We're actually building around Blake Griffin now though. JJ is probably leaving too. I mean, I see the logic from a business standpoint but the Clippers are probably going back to the cellar soon. I'm curious who's replacing CP3, it better not be freaking Kyle Lowry!

[Clipper Nation]

If Blake comes back and stays healthy you might have a shot at getting past the 2nd round now tbh


Beverley gives the Clippers actual toughness, as opposed to the fake toughness CP3 infested in the team. I'd bet anything the Clippers finish ahead of Houston if they keep Blake.
True, tbh. If he decides to stay, I would love to see us use Blake as a point forward full-time now (the LeBron/Giannis role). I think he'll surprise a lot of people who are writing him off based on the last two years.

[140]

Beverley gives the Clippers actual toughness, as opposed to the fake toughness CP3 infested in the team. I'd bet anything the Clippers finish ahead of Houston if they keep Blake.
Not sure about that since the Rockets love their regular season wins :lol But as far as playoff success go I agree, although the Clippers do need a perimeter playmaker now

[Killakobe81]

Exactly!


This is very much a Jerry West move. I hope Doc Rivers is next.

west got something for a guy that was leaving ...
But many said he was there so CP3 wouldnt leave ...
Paul has his faults but he is an elite PG

[StrengthAndHonor]

this move means harden takes himself out mvp next year? therefor kawhi will win it?
I won't be surprised if CP3 actually wins it. Chris Paul on a D'Antoni system?

Rockets are also a lock to win 65+ wins.

[Killakobe81]

Not sure about that since the Rockets love their regular season wins :lol But as far as playoff success go I agree, although the Clippers do need a perimeter playmaker now

good points all around ...

[Kyle Orton]

Paul and Harden don't really seem like a pair that's gonna get along for too long.

[140]

west got something for a guy that was leaving ...
But many said he was there so CP3 wouldnt leave ...
Paul has his faults but he is an elite PG
Maybe West knows a playoff choker when he sees one

[StrengthAndHonor]

west got something for a guy that was leaving ...
But many said he was there so CP3 wouldnt leave ...
Paul has his faults but he is an elite PG
He's the heart and soul of that team. He's far from perfect but we'll finally see his true worth with the Clippers.

[Killakobe81]

Credit to Harden for recruiting Paul who is ball dominant ...he is probably sacrificing mvp consideration.

[lefty]

That seems to be a weird fit tbh

[TimDunkem]

That seems to be a weird fit tbh
Nonetheless, shooters are going to flock to Houston.

[Chucho]

Ummm, Paul has never ran an uptempo offense. They are swapping their proven motor out for a down grade. Lost some defense in favor of a person who is going to partially nullify your best player, who is injury prone and old and expecting him to run in this system. Seems like the worst fit since Kerr traded for Shaq during the Nash era.

Subtraction by addition, tbh.

[baseline bum]

west got something for a guy that was leaving ...
But many said he was there so CP3 wouldnt leave ...
Paul has his faults but he is an elite PG

Beverley, a one year rental of Lou Williams, and a 2018 pick likely to be no higher than 28 isn't much tbh.

[baseline bum]

Maybe West knows a playoff choker when he sees one

True. He has seen one in the mirror now for 79 years.

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[LkrFan]

H-town is the best team in Texas :lol

[TimDunkem]

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Daaaaaamn. :lmao

[-21-]

That seems to be a weird fit tbh

Yep. Reminds me of Boogie & AD.

Anyway, mixed emotions on this. I'm sort of relieved he's off the market since I was afraid of him possibly becoming another disappointing major FA acquisition ala LMA. On the other hand, the guy is still a superstar, having an elite point guard next to Kawhi would've been nice.

[Killakobe81]

True. He has seen one in the mirror now for 79 years.

whoa uncalled for ...
he may work for Clips ...but he is always a Laker.

wtf is keyshawn talking hoops on SC he just said harden is gonna play defense ...:lol
Did tell PG might as well come to Lakers cuz he wodnt win in Houston anyways though

[Mitch]

Spurfans cock blocked again, back to pretending that Anthony Davis will join them.

[LkrFan]

True, tbh. If he decides to stay, I would love to see us use Blake as a point forward full-time now (the LeBron/Giannis role). I think he'll surprise a lot of people who are writing him off based on the last two years.

:lmao

[RsxPiimp]

wow 2 of the worst floppers in the same backcourt :lmao this is gonna be ugly ...someone post a collection of their flopz plz lol

[The Gemini Method]

Interesting move. Do they split time at the PG or do they move The Beard back to the 2? They lost minimal it seems, let's see if they're done wheeling and dealing.

[TimDunkem]

Interesting move. Do they split time at the PG or do they move The Beard back to the 2? They lost minimal it seems, let's see if they're done wheeling and dealing.They'll split time and they're not done dealing for sure.

[Killakobe81]

True, tbh. If he decides to stay, I would love to see us use Blake as a point forward full-time now (the LeBron/Giannis role). I think he'll surprise a lot of people who are writing him off based on the last two years.

i think he would thrive only problem is he is injury prone ...
wasnt he a til 5 mvp candidate only 2-3 years ago?!

[whitemamba]

:lol building around Blake

CIAJerry tbh

[LkrFan]

Holy shit... I guess West wants to rebuild :wow

Glad we're not on the hook for giving that choking faggot $207 million.

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RIP s:(n

[Chris Fall]

Backcourt averaging 35 FTA a game. Love it.

[The Gemini Method]

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RIP s:(n Well, does that mean LeBron joins and forms a SuperTeam in Houston? 2018 seems to be even more innuendo-laden than this year's off season.

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pls give them Mel:lol

[The Gemini Method]

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pls give them Mel:lol That would be must-see match-up a Harden/CP3/Melo or PG13 vs. Kawhi+Whomever the Spurs have.

[LkrFan]

Well, does that mean LeBron joins and forms a SuperTeam in Houston? 2018 seems to be even more innuendo-laden than this year's off season.

As long as the Sp*rs don't rang tbh. :toast

*denotes they won a title during a strike shortened season in 1999. :lol

[The Gemini Method]

As long as the Sp*rs don't rang tbh. :toast

*denotes they won a title during a strike shortened season in 1999. :lol Those were the good old days. Following that year, the Lakers finally broke through. Ah, how long that seems ago--even 2010 seems like a distant memory.

[LkrFan]

They gave us a first-round pick on top of that, too :lol

:lmao Morey

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So fucking touching tbh :cry

[djohn2oo8]

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So fucking touching tbh :cry

Does CN actually think they got a good haul for CP3?

[Chillen]

At least you can't fault CP3 for having class unlike what Kevin Durant did to the Thunder last season. Clippers got something back for him, Thunder got nothing for KD.

[LkrFan]

Does CN actually think they got a good haul for CP3?

I know right? :lol

Something for you to ponder doe:

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:downspin:

[LkrFan]

At least you can't fault CP3 for having class unlike what Kevin Durant did to the Thunder last season. Clippers got something back for him, Thunder got nothing for KD.

Lemme guess, KD is crying for OKC and not because champagne stings his eyes :lol

[140]

Does CN actually think they got a good haul for CP3?
Pretty sure CN was good with CP0 leaving for nothing, so whatever they got is a bonus tbh :lol

[140]

At least you can't fault CP3 for having class unlike what Kevin Durant did to the Thunder last season. Clippers got something back for him, Thunder got nothing for KD.
He only opted in to get more money

:lol "class"

[D-Wade]

Paul would've been better served in San Antone. Don't get how Harden and Paul coexist. And say what you want about CP, he's more of a winner than Harden will ever be.

[Raven]

wow d'antoni and cp :lmao easiest :lol in history

[TimDunkem]

Paul would've been better served in San Antone. Don't get how Harden and Paul coexist. And say what you want about CP, he's more of a winner than Harden will ever be.Basketball isn't that complicated. They'll be fine.

[140]

Paul would've been better served in San Antone. Don't get how Harden and Paul coexist. And say what you want about CP, he's more of a winner than Harden will ever be.
Not exactly a high bar to clear, tbh :lol

[DAF86]

Giving up Beverly and Lou..... tbh I bet this makes Houston way worse.


They gave us a first-round pick on top of that, too :lol

:lmao Morey

lol sons. This is a no brainer for the Rockets. They have just surpassed the Spurs as the second best team in the West.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

lol sons. This is a no brainer for the Rockets. They have just surpassed the Spurs as the second best team in the West.

lmao....we can still spank this choke dynasty

[Chris Fall]

He only opted in to get more money

:lol "class"

Hey bitch. I informed Uncle Tom and Logo I was going to sign with Houston anyway. This way, they got something out of it. Nailed it. Like a good neighbor.

Me and James. Us two gonna be a problem. We can hit from anywhere.

[ambchang]

Not sure how CP3 makes Houston better, or any contending team better for that matter. As I mentioned before, he is way too ball-dominant, and that only takes away the ball from alphas of dominant teams, which is never a good thing. He is not good enough a shooter to be a spot up, he gets abused easily on defense (despite the list of all-D selections), he doesn't necessarily move particularly well without the ball, he is not clutch.

Sure it was a great deal for Houston, but it just doesn't get them any closer to a championship. I never wanted him on the Spurs (not at that price), just like I didn't want LMA at the max. that said, there really aren't too many players I want on the Spurs. I think Gordan Hayward or Patrick Beverley would be great additions to the Spurs at the right price, I would love to have Millsap or Gobert, but those are not going to happen.

[Killakobe81]

Not sure how CP3 makes Houston better, or any contending team better for that matter. As I mentioned before, he is way too ball-dominant, and that only takes away the ball from alphas of dominant teams, which is never a good thing. He is not good enough a shooter to be a spot up, he gets abused easily on defense (despite the list of all-D selections), he doesn't necessarily move particularly well without the ball, he is not clutch.

Sure it was a great deal for Houston, but it just doesn't get them any closer to a championship. I never wanted him on the Spurs (not at that price), just like I didn't want LMA at the max. that said, there really aren't too many players I want on the Spurs. I think Gordan Hayward or Patrick Beverley would be great additions to the Spurs at the right price, I would love to have Millsap or Gobert, but those are not going to happen.

Now you sound like me!
Dont overpay #2s
In the end you cant win shit tbh

[TimDunkem]

^Another one overthinking basketball and stating the obvious that GS are still the favorites.

[TimDunkem]

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[Chris Fall]

Lol not a good enough shooter

Shot better from three than pizza face and just as well as as his chef fag point guard last season, and y'all jerk your chickens over their shooting.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Paul is like Steve Nash + defense. D'Antoni is perfect for that. The Rockets will be great next year.

We finally know what it would have been like if the Suns had traded Kobe for Marion + Raja Bell + Kurt Thomas back in '07.

[Raven]

houston will basically be the least watchable team in history from now on...

[TimDunkem]

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[Killakobe81]

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smartwork by Morey ...
doubt they get George but they will get someone ...

[Clipper Nation]

:lmao
We're not paying Choke-P $207 million AND we didn't lose him for nothing. And we've still got Jerry West, while the Lakers have the Magic/Kobe/Pelinka "brain trust." Hold this L, Javier. :downspin:

[TimDunkem]

smartwork by Morey ...
doubt they get George but they will get someone ...
And they just got a player and a pick in next year's draft.

[TimDunkem]

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[LkrFan]

We're not paying Choke-P $207 million AND we didn't lose him for nothing. And we've still got Jerry West, while the Lakers have the Magic/Kobe/Pelinka "brain trust." Hold this L, Javier. :downspin:

:lol

We'll see son. CP0 made Blake the player he is. I wanna see the "point forward" Blake for 82 games without CP0 tbh. :wakeup

[LkrFan]

This trade is worst than our Shaq trade tbh :lol at CN thinking they won set trade :lmao

[Chillen]

Two ball dominant players, CP3 was a better fit for the Spurs. It's gonna be funny to see Paul's face when Harden jacks up some crazy three and bricks it. On paper this seems like a good fit and it may or may not work. Not enough to beat the Warriors though, not yet unless Rockets make some other moves.

[TimDunkem]

^That's stating the obvious. At least they're trying to compete and not standing pat like some teams...

[Clipper Nation]

I wanna see the "point forward" Blake for 82 games without CP0 tbh.
So do I. :toast

[LkrFan]

Prediction: Melo to Rox.

CP0
Beard
Melo

WCF team tbh

[LkrFan]

So do I. :toast

Hell, you should be happy if he can play in 82 games without getting hurt :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

Prediction: Melo to Rox.

CP0
Beard
Melo

WCF team tbh

Hope they get George first.

[djohn2oo8]

Would rather Melo come on a buyout but Rox will fuck up and trade for him.

[jeebus]

The 2nd round is still their ceiling.

lol upstairs spurm fans

[LkrFan]

Hope they DO NOT get George first. FIFY :toast

[LkrFan]

Would rather Melo come on a buyout but Rox will fuck up and trade for him.

My sources are saying Knicks want to trade and not buy him out. :)

[djohn2oo8]

Crazy how on the CP3 vetoed trade the Rockets weren't the ones getting Paul :lol

[Raven]

Prediction: Melo to Rox.

CP0
Beard
Melo

WCF team tbh

i so wish this team to happen.. the level of lols would be just... mindblowing

[whitemamba]

Clippers probably don't make or barely sneak into the playoffs next year. Blake Griffin will be exposed for the fraud of a basketball player that he is.

[Raven]

Clippers probably don't make or barely sneak into the playoffs next year. Blake Griffin will be exposed for the fraud of a basketball player that he is.

except he was great before paul ever came to la...

[LkrFan]

KD is a savage tbh:

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:lmao

[RD2191]

KD is a savage tbh:

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:lmao

KD plays for the Lakers?

[140]

KD is a savage tbh:

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:lmao
tweeting emojis = savage


:lmao today's NBA

[LkrFan]

except he was great before paul ever came to la...

At what - dunking?

[LkrFan]

KD plays for the Lakers?

Not yet! :downspin:

[LkrFan]

tweeting emojis = savage


:lmao today's NBA

You need to follow KD. He talks a lot shit on Twitter. Funny dude tbh

[RD2191]

You need to follow KD. He talks a lot shit on Twitter. Funny dude tbh

That's because he's a sensitive little bitch.

[LkrFan]

That's because he's a sensitive little bitch.

Anybody that shit on Kwame Leonard and LeHype in the same post season is savage tbh :lol

8-1 vs LeHype and Kwame :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Durbeta is so insecure, he's lashing out on Twitter to get attention because nobody outside of the LakersNorth bandwagon cares about his "ring."

[djohn2oo8]

KD is a savage tbh:

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:lmao

No nigga who goes crying to his mommy is a savage.
No nigga who has to start a "not nice Kevin" campaign is a savage

[lefty]

The 2nd round is still their ceiling.

lol upstairs spurm fans

[RD2191]

Anybody that shit on Kwame Leonard and LeHype in the same post season is savage tbh :lol

8-1 vs LeHype and Kwame :lmao

??? He played one game against Kawhi and was playing like shit until Kawhi went down. Not sure if you're being willfully ignorant or just plain stupid.

[LkrFan]

??? He played one game against Kawhi and was playing like shit until Kawhi went down. Not sure if you're being willfully ignorant or just plain stupid.

The official record shows KD 4, Kwame :lol-PERIOD

[LkrFan]

No nigga who goes crying to his mommy is a savage.
No nigga who has to start a "not nice Kevin" campaign is a savage

Talking tough in the summer :lol

[RD2191]

The official record shows KD 4, Kwame :lol-PERIOD

No it doesn't, the official record shows that Kawhi went down in game 1.

[djohn2oo8]

Morey just said Rockets have 11 mill TPE.

[djohn2oo8]

So now they have 11 mill TPE, 8.4 MLE and 3.2 BLE? That's suhhhweett.

[LkrFan]

So now they have 11 mill TPE, 8.4 MLE and 3.2 BLE? That's suhhhweett.

Whatcha gonna do with it son?

[djohn2oo8]

Whatcha gonna do with it son?
Well, I'd toss that TPE in a trade for Paul George and take back a contract Indy doesn't want. The rest I'm not sure yet, depends on who wants to come play here.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Well, I'd toss that TPE in a trade for Paul George and take back a contract Indy doesn't want. The rest I'm not sure yet, depends on who wants to come play here.

So, Chris Paul is cool in your book now, I suppose.

[Trainwreck2100]

:lol paul just lost a shit load of money, Houston ain't maxing his ass.

[Biggems]

2017......the rise of Flop City.....presented by the Houston Rockets

[I. Hustle]

2017......the rise of Flop City.....presented by the Houston Rockets

Or Crutch City. The name would even appeal to their Asian fan base as they would think the nickname stayed the same.

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[Biggems]

Or Crutch City. The name would even appeal to their Asian fan base as they would think the nickname stayed the same.

http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/chris-paul-of-the-new-orleansoklahoma-city-hornets-cheers-on-his-on-picture-id72903648?s=612x612

:rollin

[DAF86]

Not sure how CP3 makes Houston better, or any contending team better for that matter. As I mentioned before, he is way too ball-dominant, and that only takes away the ball from alphas of dominant teams, which is never a good thing. He is not good enough a shooter to be a spot up, he gets abused easily on defense (despite the list of all-D selections), he doesn't necessarily move particularly well without the ball, he is not clutch.

Sure it was a great deal for Houston, but it just doesn't get them any closer to a championship. I never wanted him on the Spurs (not at that price), just like I didn't want LMA at the max. that said, there really aren't too many players I want on the Spurs. I think Gordan Hayward or Patrick Beverley would be great additions to the Spurs at the right price, I would love to have Millsap or Gobert, but those are not going to happen.

Since when is 41% from 3 "not good enough"?

[Roxsfan]

Salty bitches up in here tbh.

[spurraider21]

Since when is 41% from 3 "not good enough"?
ever since the spurs didnt get him

[TimDunkem]

ever since the spurs didnt get him
lol Truth :lol

[baseline bum]

Wow. Apparently Paul left because of Coc was unwilling to trade his scrub ass son, Jamal Crawford, and Paul Pierce for fucking Melo + Vujacic. How do the Clippers turn down that deal? The Knicks offered that and gave the Clippers a three day deadline and Coc let it pass. :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E75xzCaWqbc

That Clippers team would have been devastating with Anthony at the SF and playing some minutes at the PF. How has Coc not been fired?

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The best thing about that situation is that it shows how fucking terrible both Doc and Phil are at their jobs :lol

[Clipper Nation]

Wow. Apparently Paul left because of Coc was unwilling to trade his scrub ass son, Jamal Crawford, and Paul Pierce for fucking Melo + Vujacic. How do the Clippers turn down that deal? The Knicks offered that and gave the Clippers a three day deadline and Coc let it pass. :lmao


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E75xzCaWqbc

That Clippers team would have been devastating with Anthony at the SF and playing some minutes at the PF. How has Coc not been fired?
FWIW, from a Clippers reporter:

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I don't buy this either. As dumb as the Knicks are, not even they are dumb enough to take that garbage for Melo. We tried to trade for Melo at the deadline and couldn't get it done because both teams couldn't find a third team to take on Jamal's contract. But now we're supposed to believe that the Knicks were willing to saddle themselves with Jamal?

Choke-P is hiding behind Doc and Austin as scapegoats on his way out of town, and you guys are slurping it up. It's amazing how good he is at always ducking blame and criticism. If only he was that good at leading his team in the playoffs.

[ambchang]

The official record shows KD 4, Kwame :lol-PERIOD

So is Kobe 4-2 against Duncan in the playoffs or is he 4-3?

[Clipper Nation]

Furthermore, there's a report from another ESPN hack that directly contradicts Eaves'.

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So depending on which hack you believe, Choke-P was either mad that Austin wasn't traded or mad that Austin wasn't starting. Either way, he looks like the victim. How convenient for him. :rolleyes

[ambchang]

Since when is 41% from 3 "not good enough"?

Last year was an anomoly. He's usually a 36/37% or so shooter. let's not take a career high and call it a norm, shall we?

[ambchang]

ever since the spurs didnt get him

Check my history, never wanted CP3 on the Spurs. As another regular starter who is willing to play off the ball? Sure. As a always ball dominant PG that will take away from Kawhi and make $200? No way. A player like Mike Conley works better on the Spurs, but then he's getting $30M a year. Can't find a reasonable player out there who will make the Spurs significantly better other than Lebron and Curry, so those are moot points.

Either way, Spurs are not contending with or without CP3.

Houston will likely have a better regular season than 16-17, but they are not going to go much further in the playoffs. 2nd round max (barring major injuries to other WC contenders)

[Kyle Orton]

Last year was an anomoly. He's usually a 36/37% or so shooter. let's not take a career high and call it a norm, shall we?

Its almost like he's not gonna get better looks in Houston or something.

[LkrFan]

So is Kobe 4-2 against Duncan in the playoffs or is he 4-3?

4-2. If neither plays it don't count tbh.

[LkrFan]

Furthermore, there's a report from another ESPN hack that directly contradicts Eaves'.

880399815766675456

So depending on which hack you believe, Choke-P was either mad that Austin wasn't traded or mad that Austin wasn't starting. Either way, he looks like the victim. How convenient for him. :rolleyes

Eaves dropped truth bombs :tu

[ambchang]

Its almost like he's not gonna get better looks in Houston or something.

If you actually followed the conversation, it was around him being on the Spurs. But then why would he? The entire premise is that he is ball-dominant, and that he create the looks. 21% of his shots were assisted last year, what do you expect that to be in Houston? 30%? 35%? How will he shoot from 3 next year with Houston? 41%? 45%?

Is he a good 3pt shooter? Sure! Is he a spot up guy like Korver (in his prime)? No, he's not going to be in that role. So what is he going to be in Houston? Will he take touches away from Harden? Does that make them better? What if he was on the Spurs? Will he take touches away from Kawhi? Will that make the Spurs better? My answer is that it's likely no, and even if yes, it would be marginal improvement. But let's see if he will be a better than 41% 3pt shooter in Houston like you predicted.

[ambchang]

4-2. If neither plays it don't count tbh.

So how did Kawhi get swept 0-4 when he didn't play in 3 games?

[djohn2oo8]

LOL Pritchard demanding a Kings ransom for George even though he will still bolt to LA after being traded

[Mitch]

So how did Kawhi get swept 0-4 when he didn't play in 3 games?

Yup, Leonard got swept. And that's the end of this round of the ambchink circus

[Splits]

We're actually building around Blake Griffin now though. JJ is probably leaving too. I mean, I see the logic from a business standpoint but the Clippers are probably going back to the cellar soon. I'm curious who's replacing CP3, it better not be freaking Kyle Lowry!

:lmao

[DAF86]

Last year was an anomoly. He's usually a 36/37% or so shooter. let's not take a career high and call it a norm, shall we?

He has multiple seasons of shooting around 40% from three, almost all of them coming in the last years (which means that he has clearly improved as a shooter). And those % are from shooting off the dribble, as a spot up shooter (which was your point) he must shoot better than that. So yeah, I don't see the problem with Paul as a spot up shooter, tbh.

[ambchang]

Yup, Leonard got swept. And that's the end of this round of the ambchink circus

So it's 4-3 then.

[ambchang]

He has multiple seasons of shooting around 40% from three, almost all of them coming in the last years (which means that he has clearly improved as a shooter). And those % are from shooting off the dribble, as a spot up shooter (which was your point) he must shoot better than that. So yeah, I don't see the problem with Paul as a spot up shooter, tbh.

He shot over 37.1% twice in the last six seasons.

Not sure if he will be a spot up shooter, because that's not his game.

[DAF86]

He shot over 37.1% twice in the last six seasons.

Not sure if he will be a spot up shooter, because that's not his game.

Everybody shoots better as a spot up shooter than off the dribble. Paul himself said that he's looking forward to playing more off ball. Give Paul 10 open catch and shoot opportunities and he will definitely make at least 4 of those, probably more.

[ambchang]

Everybody shoots better as a spot up shooter than off the dribble. Paul himself said that he's looking forward to playing more off ball. Give Paul 10 open catch and shoot opportunities and he will definitely make at least 4 of those, probably more.

I'll believe it when I see it. He's never played that way in his life.
Payton didn't do too well as a spot up, neither did drexler.

[DAF86]

I'll believe it when I see it. He's never played that way in his life.
Payton didn't do too well as a spot up, neither did drexler.

Both were shitty shooters. Anyways, both won their respective championships as spot up players. :lol

[ambchang]

Both were shitty shooters. Anyways, both won their respective championships as spot up players. :lol
Miami didn't win because of Payton. Houston won when drexler was a slasher. He suffered horribly when he became a spot up next to Barkley Olajuwon and Pippen. Speaking of Pippen, he suffered too.

[Indazone]

Readly doubt that Melo goes to the Rockets given the history between D'Antoni and Melo at the Knicks. I think it much more likely that either Paul George of Gordan Hayward ends up as the last star player piece.

[Killakobe81]

Everybody shoots better as a spot up shooter than off the dribble. Paul himself said that he's looking forward to playing more off ball. Give Paul 10 open catch and shoot opportunities and he will definitely make at least 4 of those, probably more.

not true some guys are rhythm shooters .. my guess, for example, Westbrook fits in that category ...and he is not the only one ...

[LkrFan]

Yup, Leonard got swept. And that's the end of this round of the ambchink circus

:lmao

[DAF86]

not true some guys are rhythm shooters .. my guess, for example, Westbrook fits in that category ...and he is not the only one ...

Everybody, without exception, shoots better when catching and shooting while waiting static on a position, than after having to dribble the ball.

[DAF86]

Miami didn't win because of Payton. Houston won when drexler was a slasher. He suffered horribly when he became a spot up next to Barkley Olajuwon and Pippen. Speaking of Pippen, he suffered too.

You keep bringing up players who aren't even half the shooters Paul is. And I don't know how choosey do you want your argument but Drexler won his championship as a second option, if Drexler got to keep playing his style while being a second option, why can't Paul?

You are probably going to say "because Harden is a ball dominant player." well, 1st: so was Hakeem on the block, and 2nd, there are lots of possessions to go around. If Harden was able to co-exist, on the same team, with Durant and Westbrook, how is he not going to be able to play alongside Paul?

Also, if Wade and Lebron, who are worse shooters than Paul and Harden, made it work, why can't Harden and Paul?

[ambchang]

You keep bringing up players who aren't even half the shooters Paul is. And I don't know how choosey do you want your argument but Drexler won his championship as a second option, if Drexler got to keep playing his style while being a second option, why can't Paul?

You are probably going to say "because Harden is a ball dominant player." well, 1st: so was Hakeem on the block, and 2nd, there are lots of possessions to go around. If Harden was able to co-exist, on the same team, with Durant and Westbrook, how is he not going to be able to play alongside Paul?

Also, if Wade and Lebron, who are worse shooters than Paul and Harden, made it work, why can't Harden and Paul?

When did I say paul can't be a second option on a championship team? I said him joining the Spurs or the rockets aren't going to do a thing (unless they make some other significant moves).

I brought up players who's impacts were negligible and expectations not met when shoved into a spot up shooter role. If you don't want to argue those points, then don't. Stop making shit up and argue against it to win an argument.

As for drexler, he wasn't a spot up shooter in 95. He was with Barkley and Hakeem. Try to follow along.

[Mitch]

Readly doubt that Melo goes to the Rockets given the history between D'Antoni and Melo at the Knicks. I think it much more likely that either Paul George of Gordan Hayward ends up as the last star player piece.

Last piece of a 2nd round exit

[DAF86]

When did I say paul can't be a second option on a championship team? I said him joining the Spurs or the rockets aren't going to do a thing (unless they make some other significant moves).

I brought up players who's impacts were negligible and expectations not met when shoved into a spot up shooter role. If you don't want to argue those points, then don't. Stop making shit up and argue against it to win an argument.

As for drexler, he wasn't a spot up shooter in 95. He was with Barkley and Hakeem. Try to follow along.

You said two things:

1) that you don't know how Paul makes Houston better.

I have a problem with that since I'm definitely positive that the Rockets will go from the 3rd best team in the West to the 2nd best, passing the Spurs. (even if they don't finish higher than the Spurs in the standings, they will definitely own us on a playoffs series given that the Rockets were already tough for us and now they added our daddy). That's making a team better, tbh.

2) And then you said Paul isn't a good enough shooter to be a spot up player, when that just isn't true. Even if he just shoots his career average of 37%, he will be a good enough spot up option; but he will probably shoot better than that because he already shot 41% last season and next season he will have more chances of taking open, comfortable shots.

[Clipper Nation]

Last piece of a 2nd round exit

[ambchang]

You said two things:

1) that you don't know how Paul makes Houston better.

I have a problem with that since I'm definitely positive that the Rockets will go from the 3rd best team in the West to the 2nd best, passing the Spurs. (even if they don't finish higher than the Spurs in the standings, they will definitely own us on a playoffs series given that the Rockets were already tough for us and now they added our daddy). That's making a team better, tbh.

2) And then you said Paul isn't a good enough shooter to be a spot up player, when that just isn't true. Even if he just shoots his career average of 37%, he will be a good enough spot up option; but he will probably shoot better than that because he already shot 41% last season and next season he will have more chances of taking open, comfortable shots.

I'm not certain this allows the rockets to leapfrog the Spurs in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure they'd do better in the regular season but more because of the Spurs getting worse than them getting better. In the playoffs, two ball dominant players who rarely plays off the ball aren't likely to work together.

As for a spot up, he's just not it. Not sure how you think everyone becomes better but shooting standing still translates to being better as a spot up shooter. A spot up shooter has to find open spots for shots and run around screens without the ball and stuff. You think that just happens when paul never played that way?

[Killakobe81]

Everybody, without exception, shoots better when catching and shooting while waiting static on a position, than after having to dribble the ball.

bullshit. No exceptions? not talking wide open gym shots ...in game some guys shoot better off the dribble.
if that is not the case why are some good in gane shooters like Iggy shitty FT shooters? that is a wide open and static as it gets ..
im not saying what you saying isnt true the vast majority of the time ...just saying i bet if you crunch the data ...there are outliers ...there has to be ...even if its in a smaller sample of the data set.

[Killakobe81]

I'm not certain this allows the rockets to leapfrog the Spurs in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure they'd do better in the regular season but more because of the Spurs getting worse than them getting better. In the playoffs, two ball dominant players who rarely plays off the ball aren't likely to work together.

As for a spot up, he's just not it. Not sure how you think everyone becomes better but shooting standing still translates to being better as a spot up shooter. A spot up shooter has to find open spots for shots and run around screens without the ball and stuff. You think that just happens when paul never played that way?

Not saying it will definitely not work but he is ignoring the fact that part of the reason he shoots well in post ups is the rhythmn he builds by getting buckets in his comfort zone pounding the rock and working his midrange in pnr. That is why analysts always encourage shooters to get a easy layup for shooters that are struggling. Playing off ball is not easy ...miss a few open shots and it can fuck with even the best shooters confidence especially in high pressure, high leverage moments.

[DAF86]

No reason to keep arguing this, I will just bump this thread when the time comes.

[DMC]

Chris Paul will not raise the Rockets above the Spurs. That's because James Harden will not give up his production as a PG, and Chris Paul will not give up his production as a PG. We know James at the 2 isn't going to shake the world because he doesn't play defense and just hangs around the perimeter. Unless the Rockets expect to play small ball with a SSOL mentality, one that would be completely foreign to Chris Paul, then I think the Rockets take a step back, unless they get Paul George as well.

[Killakobe81]

No reason to keep arguing this, I will just bump this thread when the time comes.

feel free ...i did not say it wont work just saying being a catch and shoot guy like Korver vs. a pnr or iso scorer are different skill sets. Paul is a great enough player to adjust and I think he will but i dont think it will be seamless. good news for Rox is my guess dantoni will have Paul stay on ball as PG and Harden will go back to SG ...

[DAF86]

feel free ...i did not say it wont work just saying being a catch and shoot guy like Korver vs. a pnr or iso scorer are different skill sets. Paul is a great enough player to adjust and I think he will but i dont think it will be seamless. good news for Rox is my guess dantoni will have Paul stay on ball as PG and Harden will go back to SG ...

So what happens if Kawhi gets more all-NBA 1st team votes than Lebron? Will you own up to the bet or are you pulling out because of Durant's injury? Kawhi did get more MVP votes afterall.

[MultiTroll]

No reason to keep arguing this, I will just bump this thread when the time comes.

Yep.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7lfAUECUE8

[Killakobe81]

So what happens if Kawhi gets more all-NBA 1st team votes than Lebron? Will you own up to the bet or are you pulling out because of Durant's injury? Kawhi did get more MVP votes afterall.

what did i bet you? if i did ill honor it ...but we both knoe if Durant is healthy i was right Btw what do mvp votes have to do with anything?! if his injury affected the mvp vote why would it not all nba?

[Koolaid_Man]

anyone feel sorry for Clipper Nation. this dude is a sad individual.

[Koolaid_Man]

Clipper Nation is fucked. hahahahahaha

[Koolaid_Man]

nigga dick hopping losers for years...still 0 & Forever.....

[Koolaid_Man]

T-Mac and Ming....now Harden and Paul..... all fucking losers. hahahahaha

[Koolaid_Man]

as for the trade..Neither Harden or Paul knows how to play defense The Rockets were better with that black ugly ass motherfucker they traded..At least his black ugly ass could play D....Harden is a coward at heart and will not defend anything....I knew he was defenseless when he let Matt Barnes tell his mama to suck his dick. Harden did nothing but cry to the media and ask the media to tell Matt Barnes to aopologise. I knew that nigga was a defenseless faggot after seeing that.

[Michael Jordan.]

as for the trade..Neither Harden or Paul knows how to play defense The Rockets were better with that black ugly ass motherfucker they traded..At least his black ugly ass could play D....Harden is a coward at heart and will not defend anything....I knew he was defenseless when he let Matt Barnes tell his mama to suck his dick. Harden did nothing but cry to the media and ask the media to tell Matt Barnes to aopologise. I knew that nigga was a defenseless faggot after seeing that.

Where was Kobe's defense when he let Vanessa rape him for half? that nigga seemed pretty defenseless.

[illmatic]

Where was Kobe's defense when he let Vanessa rape him for half? that nigga seemed pretty defenseless.

Welcome back, MJ.

[140]

Where was Kobe's defense when he let Vanessa rape him for half? that nigga seemed pretty defenseless.
:wow

[DAF86]

what did i bet you? if i did ill honor it ...but we both knoe if Durant is healthy i was right Btw what do mvp votes have to do with anything?! if his injury affected the mvp vote why would it not all nba?

WHAT!? :lol

Do you still believe Kawhi wouldn't have made 1st team all-NBA? What kind of drug are you on son? :lol

[Killakobe81]

WHAT!? :lol

Do you still believe Kawhi wouldn't have made 1st team all-NBA? What kind of drug are you on son? :lol

of course ... or did you not hear the media calling him 2nd best player on the planet during the Finals?

[DAF86]

of course ... or did you not hear the media calling him 2nd best player on the planet during the Finals?

Yeah, and I also heard folks calling Kawhi the second (or even best) player in the World up untill his ankle injury.

Anyway, what does any of that have to do with anything? Lebron is considered by everybody the best player in the World and he didn't even finish top 3 in MVP voting.

I was going to let you off the hook, but this retardeness of yours in this matter shouldn't go unpunished. If Kawhi ends up with more all-NBA votes than Lebron I'm going to make you own up to the bet, tbh. Luckily for you they are both probably going to get all the 1st team votes. Durant's injury might have saved your ass, tbh.

[djohn2oo8]

883360829726392350

lol Daddys boy

[DAF86]

No reason to keep arguing this, I will just bump this thread when the time comes.

[DAF86]

Last year was an anomoly. He's usually a 36/37% or so shooter. let's not take a career high and call it a norm, shall we?

Shooting 39% from 3, tbh.

[spurraider21]

Giving up Beverly and Lou..... tbh I bet this makes Houston way worse.


Beverley gives the Clippers actual toughness, as opposed to the fake toughness CP3 infested in the team. I'd bet anything the Clippers finish ahead of Houston if they keep Blake.


Not sure how CP3 makes Houston better, or any contending team better for that matter. As I mentioned before, he is way too ball-dominant, and that only takes away the ball from alphas of dominant teams, which is never a good thing. He is not good enough a shooter to be a spot up, he gets abused easily on defense (despite the list of all-D selections), he doesn't necessarily move particularly well without the ball, he is not clutch.

Sure it was a great deal for Houston, but it just doesn't get them any closer to a championship. I never wanted him on the Spurs (not at that price), just like I didn't want LMA at the max. that said, there really aren't too many players I want on the Spurs. I think Gordan Hayward or Patrick Beverley would be great additions to the Spurs at the right price, I would love to have Millsap or Gobert, but those are not going to happen.
huh

[Killakobe81]

Yeah, and I also heard folks calling Kawhi the second (or even best) player in the World up untill his ankle injury.

Anyway, what does any of that have to do with anything? Lebron is considered by everybody the best player in the World and he didn't even finish top 3 in MVP voting.

I was going to let you off the hook, but this retardeness of yours in this matter shouldn't go unpunished. If Kawhi ends up with more all-NBA votes than Lebron I'm going to make you own up to the bet, tbh. Luckily for you they are both probably going to get all the 1st team votes. Durant's injury might have saved your ass, tbh.

why didnt you bimp this?
Still think KL better than Durant?
Great player but even when healthy Durant is still better ...

[DAF86]

why didnt you bimp this?
Still think KL better than Durant?
Great player but even when healthy Durant is still better ...

And when did I say that?

Again, folks having to lie to try and keep up. :lol

That comment was regarding Kawhi making 1st team All-NBA, which he did, regardless of Durant's injury. Durant injury just helped you save face.

[monosylab1k]

huh

R:lolgular seas:loln

Also Clippers were looking solid until Beverly got hurt and Doc used it to showcase Austin Rivers’ uselessness on a wider scale.

[Killakobe81]

And when did I say that?

Again, folks having to lie to try and keep up. :lol

That comment was regarding Kawhi making 1st team All-NBA, which he did, regardless of Durant's injury. Durant injury just helped you save face.

how am I saving face?
Besides, I wasnt even arguing he was better (but I do think so) but that Media was putting him on the1st team barring injury.

[DAF86]

how am I saving face?
Besides, I wasnt even arguing he was better (but I do think so) but that Media was putting him on the1st team barring injury.

Why did you write this then?


Still think KL better than Durant?

[spurraider21]

R:lolgular seas:loln

Also Clippers were looking solid until Beverly got hurt and Doc used it to showcase Austin Rivers’ uselessness on a wider scale.
they were never going to finish ahead of houston :lol

[DAF86]

BTW, I don't think anybody here talked about the playoffs. That's a whole different animal, considering Harden's choking instincts and Paul's injury problems late in seasons.

But anyone thinking the Rockets wouldn't be better on the regular season with Paul is crazy.

[ambchang]

Shooting 39% from 3, tbh.

So he’s not shooting as well as last year despite all the open shots.

[ambchang]

huh

The rockets got closer to a ship?

[spurraider21]

The rockets got closer to a ship?
:lol "not sure how it makes them better"

[DAF86]

So he’s not shooting as well as last year despite all the open shots.

Is 39% from 3 "not good enough" son?

[ambchang]

:lol "not sure how it makes them better"

Not sure if you got attention deficit issues or just can’t read.

Sure it was a great deal for Houston, but it just doesn't get them any closer to a championship. I never wanted him on the Spurs (not at that price), just like I didn't want LMA at the max. that said, there really aren't too many players I want on the Spurs. I think Gordan Hayward or Patrick Beverley would be great additions to the Spurs at the right price, I would love to have Millsap or Gobert, but those are not going to happen.

[spurraider21]

Not sure if you got attention deficit issues or just can’t read.


Not sure how CP3 makes Houston better, or any contending team better for that matter. As I mentioned before, he is way too ball-dominant, and that only takes away the ball from alphas of dominant teams, which is never a good thing. He is not good enough a shooter to be a spot up, he gets abused easily on defense (despite the list of all-D selections), he doesn't necessarily move particularly well without the ball, he is not clutch.

[djohn2oo8]

Not sure how CP3 makes Houston better, or any contending team better for that matter. As I mentioned before, he is way too ball-dominant, and that only takes away the ball from alphas of dominant teams, which is never a good thing. He is not good enough a shooter to be a spot up, he gets abused easily on defense (despite the list of all-D selections), he doesn't necessarily move particularly well without the ball, he is not clutch.

Sure it was a great deal for Houston, but it just doesn't get them any closer to a championship. I never wanted him on the Spurs (not at that price), just like I didn't want LMA at the max. that said, there really aren't too many players I want on the Spurs. I think Gordan Hayward or Patrick Beverley would be great additions to the Spurs at the right price, I would love to have Millsap or Gobert, but those are not going to happen.

Amb, you directly said you weren't sure how Cp3 would make Houston or any contending team better.

[Killakobe81]

Why did you write this then?

again my point was not whether i think he is or not the media has clearly stated that KD is the 2nd best SF and player ...you could hear that narrative all Finals long ...some even argued KD was on his way to surpassing the Kang.
I dont agree with the last part ...but do agree on the first part ..not sure why you taking this personal, tbh...KL was a top 3-5 player before he got injured ...hopefully he gets healthy and assumes his rightful place.

[ambchang]

Is 39% from 3 "not good enough" son?

You tell me good for 71st in the league

[ambchang]

Amb, you directly said you weren't sure how Cp3 would make Houston or any contending team better.
How’s it going any closer to championship

[spurraider21]

How’s it going any closer to championship


Not sure if you got attention deficit issues or just can’t read.



Not sure how CP3 makes Houston better, or any contending team better for that matter. As I mentioned before, he is way too ball-dominant, and that only takes away the ball from alphas of dominant teams, which is never a good thing. He is not good enough a shooter to be a spot up, he gets abused easily on defense (despite the list of all-D selections), he doesn't necessarily move particularly well without the ball, he is not clutch.

[DAF86]

again my point was not whether i think he is or not the media has clearly stated that KD is the 2nd best SF and player ...you could hear that narrative all Finals long ...some even argued KD was on his way to surpassing the Kang.
I dont agree with the last part ...but do agree on the first part ..not sure why you taking this personal, tbh...KL was a top 3-5 player before he got injured ...hopefully he gets healthy and assumes his rightful place.

I'm not taking this personally. You wrote "still think Kawhi is better than KD?" Implying that I, at some point, had said such thing, which is not true. So I ask you again: why did you write that as if that was the point of the argument?

[DAF86]

You tell me good for 71st in the league

Yeah, I say it's more than good enough. What do you say?

[DAF86]

ambchang and Killakobe81 trying to pull a DMC and run around a failed take. Just own up to it guys. It's easier. :lol

[baseline bum]

Plan C incoming.

Ended up with Plan F

[Killakobe81]

ambchang and Killakobe81 trying to pull a DMC and run around a failed take. Just own up to it guys. It's easier. :lol

i aint running from shit ...still waiting for a healthy season where KL is considered better than Durant ...
As for the Rox I said may be some intial struggles but CP3 smart enough and great enough to figure it out ...
been wrong about plenty like Dwill and some early hate on LeBron (after bearing witness in 2007)
im just not wrong here ...

[DAF86]

i aint running from shit ...still waiting for a healthy season where KL is considered better than Durant ...
As for the Rox I said may be some intial struggles but CP3 smart enough and great enough to figure it out ...
been wrong about plenty like Dwill and some early hate on LeBron (after bearing witness in 2007)
im just not wrong here ...

Stop moving goal posts son. :lol

You know damn well the argument wasn't "who was considered better". The argument was "who was going to make 1st team all NBA". And I said Kawhi was going to make it and have Lebron and Durant fight for the second position, thing which would have happened if Durant wouldn't have got hurt, which caused Kawhi and Lebron to get all 1st team votes at the forward positions.

[Killakobe81]

Stop moving goal posts son. :lol

You know damn well the argument wasn't "who was considered better". The argument was "who was going to make 1st team all NBA". And I said Kawhi was going to make it and have Lebron and Durant fight for the second position, thing which would have happened if Durant wouldn't have got hurt, which caused Kawhi and Lebron to get all 1st team votes at the forward positions.

What?! ...and healthy Durant does make 1st team which is what I meant by "better" ...
Still waiting for the All Nba 1st team KL makes with a healthy Durant ...
Still waiting ....
the year before last ...nope
this year nope ...
thank Zaza btw ... he giveth (taking out Durant allowed KL to get mvp votes and all nba 1st) and taketh ...
well we all know how his dirty ass taketh...

[sook]

What?! ...and healthy Durant does make 1st team which is what I meant by "better" ...
Still waiting for the All Nba 1st team KL makes with a healthy Durant ...
Still waiting ....
the year before last ...nope
this year nope ...
thank Zaza btw ... he giveth (taking out Durant allowed KL to get mvp votes and all nba 1st) and taketh ...
well we all know how his dirty ass taketh...
Kawhi is cool and Durant is a punk but these fools making the argument that KL is better :lmao :lmao :lmao

The homerism on this site is the worst, especially when it comes to manure. I’m surprised we don’t get more Manure>>> Kobe threads tbh

[Killakobe81]

Kawhi is cool and Durant is a punk but these fools making the argument that KL is better :lmao :lmao :lmao

The homerism on this site is the worst, especially when it comes to manure. I’m surprised we don’t get more Manure>>> Kobe threads tbh

of course, I prefer KL ...hope he comes home to the Lakers...
but even he does im not gonna say he is better than LeBron/KD or even Harden ...he is the best defender tho and really of mvp type players only KD and AD kinda close ...but playmaking offensive skill wise KL has improved sooo much but LeBron/KD/Harden are more dynamic...and there is a big gap there too

[Killakobe81]

also cp3 is great but Harden is so much more integral to the Rox shouldnt impact his mvp resume ...

[DAF86]

What?! ...and healthy Durant does make 1st team which is what I meant by "better" ...
Still waiting for the All Nba 1st team KL makes with a healthy Durant ...
Still waiting ....
the year before last ...nope
this year nope ...
thank Zaza btw ... he giveth (taking out Durant allowed KL to get mvp votes and all nba 1st) and taketh ...
well we all know how his dirty ass taketh...

Try the 2015/16 season, you fucking dumbass.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_NBA_season

And last season it would have been the same story had Durant stayed healthy. Kawhi was never going to miss making 1st team all-NBA, after single handedly leading the Spurs to a 60+ wins season, to a Lebron that failed to prevent the Cavs from underachieving and to a Durant that pulled the biggest bitch move in the history of the league.

The truth is that Kawhi is a reigning back to back all-NBA 1st teamer and he probably would be gunning for a third consecutive year if he hadn't been injured all season.

[Killakobe81]

Try the 2015/16 season, you fucking dumbass.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015–16_NBA_season

And last season it would have been the same story had Durant stayed healthy. Kawhi was never going to miss making 1st team all-NBA, after single handedly leading the Spurs to a 60+ wins season, to a Lebron that failed to prevent the Cavs from underachieving and to a Durant that pulled the biggest bitch move in the history of the league.

The truth is that Kawhi is a reigning back to back all-NBA 1st teamer and he probably would be gunning for a third consecutive year if he hadn't been injured all season.

missed twenty games that year genius ... i said healthy ...missing almost 20 games in a 82 games season does not = healthy but A for effort ...
lol know you losing your shit and the argument when name calling comes in to play ...

[DAF86]

Kawhi is cool and Durant is a punk but these fools making the argument that KL is better :lmao :lmao :lmao

The homerism on this site is the worst, especially when it comes to manure. I’m surprised we don’t get more Manure>>> Kobe threads tbh

Are you fucking retarded or have a problem with reading properly? Which part of this isn't a "who's better" argument you didn't get?

Here's the last time I ranked NBA players:


For next season:

1-Lebron
2-Curry (probably loses a one-on-one battle vs Kawhi and Durant, but on 5-v-5 basketball he's still more influential than them)
3-Durant
4-Kawhi




5-Harden
6-Westbrook
7-CP3
8-Davis
9-Cousins
10-Giannis

Notice how I put Durant next to the number 3 and above Kawhi, which has a number four on his side? Well, that means that I think Durant is better than Kawhi. Can you understand that? I'm sure you can if you try.

Also, lol at acting as if saying that Kawhi is better than Durant is some super homerish thing to say. Recent bias much?

This is what folks were saying about Kawhi during the last playoffs before him getting injured:

ohzqALEMHL4

You wouldn't confuse Popovich for a dumb homer, right?

But just in case, this is what the entire TNT crew had to say about Kawhi right after Zaza's possibly season saving play for the Warriors (7 minute mark):

451s&v=HotFKUu9Y4Y

Maybe they were prisoners of the moment after seeing Kawhi single handedly dominate the Warriors at their home to the tune of 20 something points and then see the Spurs crumbling apart so easily without him, you may say? Well, check this out from earlier in the playoffs (3:00 minute mark):

UMT5CR_hbEM

What did it change from this moment in time to today? We haven't seen Kawhi play again. But yeah, saying Kawhi > Durant is some incredible homerish thing to do. Fucking retard. :lol

[DAF86]

missed twenty games that year genius ... i said healthy ...missing almost 20 games in a 82 games season does not = healthy but A for effort ...
lol know you losing your shit and the argument when name calling comes in to play ...

You lose your patience sometimes while dealing with idiots. I apologise, tbh.

Also, you not only can't read, but also can't count. Unless the NBA had a regular season of 92 games in 15/16, Durant didn't miss 20 games that season. But let me check, maybe I'm the one who's wrong for once.












Nope, it's still you.

[Killakobe81]

You lose your patience sometimes while dealing with idiots. I apologise, tbh.

Also, you not only can't read, but also can't count. Unless the NBA had a regular season of 92 games in 15/16, Durant didn't miss 20 games that season. But let me check, maybe I'm the one who's wrong for once.












Nope, it's still you.

my bad was speaking year before ...but i still stand behind last year ...but because of injury we wont know ..and never will ...but if lebron aint done or fading hopefully both will be healthy next and we can revisit who gets that spot?

[Killakobe81]

my bad was speaking year before ...but i still stand behind last year ...but because of injury we wont know ..and never will ...but if lebron aint done or fading hopefully both will be healthy next and we can revisit who gets that spot?

oh and lol "wrong for once" ...i seen some your posts upstairs ...:lol


kidding ...


before you get all defensive ...if it helps you find peace ...you win this round ...for now

[DAF86]

oh and lol "wrong for once" ...i seen some your posts upstairs ...:lol


kidding ...


before you get all defensive ...if it helps you find peace ...you win this round ...for now

No hard feelings son. I just get really irritated when I see dumb arguments, tbh.

[ambchang]

Which of that isn’t true? At the rockets any better?

And spursraider21. Where was you take before the 16 game win streak?

[ambchang]

I'm not certain this allows the rockets to leapfrog the Spurs in the playoffs. I'm pretty sure they'd do better in the regular season but more because of the Spurs getting worse than them getting better. In the playoffs, two ball dominant players who rarely plays off the ball aren't likely to work together.

As for a spot up, he's just not it. Not sure how you think everyone becomes better but shooting standing still translates to being better as a spot up shooter. A spot up shooter has to find open spots for shots and run around screens without the ball and stuff. You think that just happens when paul never played that way?

Funny how his was never quoted.

[ambchang]

Yeah, I say it's more than good enough. What do you say?

That he’s not a good mouth spot up shooter. You can get better spot ups for way less.

[spurraider21]

Funny how his was never quoted.
Good question. It should have been quoted along with your other failed predictions. Because it’s inaccurate. Houston has dramatically improved

[StrengthAndHonor]

Good question. It should have been quoted along with your other failed predictions. Because it’s inaccurate. Houston has dramatically improved
:lol

[DAF86]

That he’s not a good mouth spot up shooter. You can get better spot ups for way less.

Sure. Among players that have enough spot ups to qualify, you can get exactly 1 player that provides better spot ups: Jose Calderon.

https://stats.nba.com/players/spot-up/?sort=PPP&dir=1

[ambchang]

Good question. It should have been quoted along with your other failed predictions. Because it’s inaccurate. Houston has dramatically improved

:lol dramatically improved. Last year 2nd In o rating and 18th In d rating. This year 1st and 9th. And no improvement in d isn’t Paul. The o difference is 1.2 points and the d difference 3.8.
They are 51-13 now. Last year after 64 games they were 44-20, which would put them around the Celtics level for this year.

I’ve said clearly that I expect them to get better in the regular season. In the playoffs though? Not so much. Now obviously with kawhi down things change.

Still waiting on your prediction back in the day hindsight boy.

[ambchang]

Sure. Among players that have enough spot ups to qualify, you can get exactly 1 player that provides better spot ups: Jose Calderon.

https://stats.nba.com/players/spot-up/?sort=PPP&dir=1

Is that for spot up threes?

[DAF86]

Is that for spot up threes?

Nope, but in the post I quoted you talked about "spot ups". Anyway, as a spot up three point shooter I'm sure he's pretty good too since his overall three pt shooting % is already pretty damn good, tbh.

EDIT: Aaaand after a quick search, yep, he's indeed doing pretty damn good: 42.3 % from 3 on catch and shoot opportunities.

https://stats.nba.com/players/catch-shoot/?sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3_PCT&dir=1

Just tell me if you wanna keep going, tbh.

[DAF86]

:lol dramatically improved. Last year 2nd In o rating and 18th In d rating. This year 1st and 9th. And no improvement in d isn’t Paul. The o difference is 1.2 points and the d difference 3.8.
They are 51-13 now. Last year after 64 games they were 44-20, which would put them around the Celtics level for this year.

I’ve said clearly that I expect them to get better in the regular season. In the playoffs though? Not so much. Now obviously with kawhi down things change.

Still waiting on your prediction back in the day hindsight boy.

You do know that Paul is a 9 times all defensive team player, right? 7 of them 1st team.

[ambchang]

Nope, but in the post I quoted you talked about "spot ups". Anyway, as a spot up three point shooter I'm sure he's pretty good too since his overall three pt shooting % is already pretty damn good, tbh.

EDIT: Aaaand after a quick search, yep, he's indeed doing pretty damn good: 42.3 % from 3 on catch and shoot opportunities.

https://stats.nba.com/players/catch-shoot/?sort=CATCH_SHOOT_FG3_PCT&dir=1

Just tell me if you wanna keep going, tbh.

Not bad. Those 0.5 spot up threes are really killing their opponents. Which goes back to the original point, he’s not a spot up shooter.

[ambchang]

You do know that Paul is a 9 times all defensive team player, right? 7 of them 1st team.

Overrated as hell.

[dfens]

You do know that Paul is a 9 times all defensive team player, right? 7 of them 1st team.

son cp3 is a talented but fragile choking midget. you need heart and toughness to ring. derek fisher > cp3 for a ring tbh :lol

[DAF86]

Not bad. Those 0.5 spot up threes are really killing their opponents. Which goes back to the original point, he’s not a spot up shooter.

Well then, apparently he didn't need to be one. So that still makes you wrong.

[140]

son cp3 is a talented but fragile choking midget. you need heart and toughness to ring. derek fisher > cp3 for a ring tbh :lol
tbh...and I fuckin hate Fisher :lol

[Clipper Nation]

son cp3 is a talented but fragile choking midget. you need heart and toughness to ring. derek fisher > cp3 for a ring tbh :lol

[Clipper Nation]

You do know that Paul is a 9 times all defensive team player, right? 7 of them 1st team.
He's a nice regular-season defender. Still gets torched on a regular basis in the real games, though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RE4LCTp7wI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wO6UqQmBOlE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tyw9sfZsC4Y

[sook]

Are you fucking retarded or have a problem with reading properly? Which part of this isn't a "who's better" argument you didn't get?

Here's the last time I ranked NBA players:



Notice how I put Durant next to the number 3 and above Kawhi, which has a number four on his side? Well, that means that I think Durant is better than Kawhi. Can you understand that? I'm sure you can if you try.

Also, lol at acting as if saying that Kawhi is better than Durant is some super homerish thing to say. Recent bias much?

This is what folks were saying about Kawhi during the last playoffs before him getting injured:

ohzqALEMHL4

You wouldn't confuse Popovich for a dumb homer, right?

But just in case, this is what the entire TNT crew had to say about Kawhi right after Zaza's possibly season saving play for the Warriors (7 minute mark):

451s&v=HotFKUu9Y4Y

Maybe they were prisoners of the moment after seeing Kawhi single handedly dominate the Warriors at their home to the tune of 20 something points and then see the Spurs crumbling apart so easily without him, you may say? Well, check this out from earlier in the playoffs (3:00 minute mark):

UMT5CR_hbEM

What did it change from this moment in time to today? We haven't seen Kawhi play again. But yeah, saying Kawhi > Durant is some incredible homerish thing to do. Fucking retard. :lol

I have no idea what you're talking about or why you think I was talking about you. As soon as I saw you took offense I didn't read anything further.

[DAF86]

I have no idea what you're talking about or why you think I was talking about you. As soon as I saw you took offense I didn't read anything further.

Sure thing son. Nobody else was talking about Kawhi and Durant on this thread but sure, you weren't talking about me. Anyway, if you truly weren't talking about me (:lol) you should still read the entire post to educate yourself and stop doing retarded shit like acting as if someone saying Kawhi > Durant is some ridiculous thing to say.

[sook]

Sure thing son. Nobody else was talking about Kawhi and Durant on this thread but sure, you weren't talking about me. Anyway, if you truly weren't talking about me (:lol) you should still read the entire post to educate yourself and stop doing retarded shit like acting as if someone saying Kawhi > Durant is some ridiculous thing to say.

You're absolutely livid right now... calm down. It is a pretty ridiculous thing to say. Any non-spur fan will call you out for it..:lol

[DAF86]

You're absolutely livid right now... calm down. It is a pretty ridiculous thing to say. Any non-spur fan will call you out for it..:lol

Except probably the best coach of all time, the entire TNT crew and many more analysts that I didn't even bother to bring up. But sure, everyone would laugh :lol

Being caught on the act of stupidity and trying to play it off. :lol Rockets fans are some of the dumbest fans in the entire NBA, tbh.

[sook]

Except probably the best coach of all time, the entire TNT crew and many more analysts that I didn't even bother to bring up. But sure, everyone would laugh :lol

Being caught on the act of stupidity and trying to play it off. :lol Rockets fans are some of the dumbest fans in the entire NBA, tbh.
[removed] Twas too mean.

You can take your W and goto bed easier dude. This is one of the dumbest arguments I’ve undertaken, not gonna argue with an idiot :lol

[DAF86]

[removed] Twas too mean.

You can take your W and goto bed easier dude. This is one of the dumbest arguments I’ve undertaken, not gonna argue with an idiot :lol

"Removed. Too mean" what a flaming good for nothing bitch ass faggot :lol

[sook]

The fact you get so riled up and triggered factors into it tbh. Just looking out for you man :lol