I am officially DONE with PATFO.

[spursistan]

I will have to finally concede how vastly overrated they have been for quite some time by the media and in some executive circles.


They are still running an obsolete, risk-averse operation -- drunk on players loyalty and the primacy of the cultural fit-- in a cutthroat professional league that has broken into the equivalent of an arms race.


When you hear the coach of team in the exit interview talking about the level of players' versatility needed to beat a team like Golden State only to proceed and give 50 millions to a one trick pony midget—a career 6 ppg in the playoffs who has gotten continuously decimated by the very same Dubs team for the past few years— you know the jig is up in San Antonio..

It is very much looking like Leonard prime is going to be wasted here..Between the extreme end-of-game luck they were beneficiaries of last year and the improvement of the West this offseason, even their precious "60-wins"--fools gold really-- won't be attainable..

As of tonight, this team fails at the most basic equation forming a typical title contender (or even a team a rung below it): talent deficit..

[TimDunkem]

I smell an epic 2011 like collapse against one of these up and coming teams incoming if the FO doesn't get their shit together and get Kawhi help. Either that or he'll go down with a serious injury after carrying the team on his back for another year yet again.

[Snaq O'Meal]

This is the year PATFO surprises everyone by unleashing LJC on the league. Doubters beware!

[TheGreatYacht]

PG: Patty Mills, Dejounte Murray, Tony Parker
SG: Danny Green, Adam Hanga, Derrick White, Bryn Forbes
SF: Kyle Anderson, Jaron Blossomgame
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge, Davis Bertans
C:



That fucking supporting cast for our franchise player in his prime :lmao

[99 Problems]

Unless you officially notify them you may remain on their speed dial and contact lists tbh.

[spursistan]

PG: Patty Mills, Dejounte Murray, Tony Parker
SG: Danny Green, Adam Hanga, Derrick White, Bryn Forbes
SF: Kyle Anderson, Jaron Blossomgame
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge, Davis Bertans
C:



That fucking supporting cast for our franchise player in his prime :lmao

Legitimately a sneaky tank job..:lmao..

If Kawhi is out a a couple of months with an injury, they might struggle to even sniff the playoffs..

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Well this is troubling. Wonder how they are going to react when they hear you are officially done.

[Stabula]

A lot of cry-baby bitch-made pussies in this forum who don't understand that chemistry is important, the cap has gone up considerably, and the Spurs have never won championships by signing superstar FAs.

[TheGreatYacht]

http://data-sports.abs-cbn.com/dev/articles/1498776118_timberwolves-butler-a-webf-small.jpg

We had a fucking Bugatti in Scott Layden 2 years ago, and we kept a fucking Honda.

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/40/21/37/8460282/5/1024x1024.jpg
19100225376

[TheGreatYacht]

A lot of cry-baby bitch-made pussies in this forum who don't understand that chemistry is important, the cap has gone up considerably, and the Spurs have never won championships by signing superstar FAs.
Same can be said about the pussies that blindly jizz rag for PATFO and believe that corporate knowledge can beat the 5 fucking superteams that just got formed

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao
... is what Bob Myers and the Warriors front office did when they saw RC Buford hand this guy $50,000,000


Pity Mills in the WCF (30.2MPG):
7.8ppg, 2.3rpg, 3.3apg, 1.5TO, 24.3FG%, 21.7 3P%

[benfti]

OP offically a faggot

[apalisoc_9]

PG: Patty Mills, Dejounte Murray, Tony Parker
SG: Danny Green, Adam Hanga, Derrick White, Bryn Forbes
SF: Kyle Anderson, Jaron Blossomgame
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge, Davis Bertans
C:



That fucking supporting cast for our franchise player in his prime :lmao

Dude, Without TD this franchise reputation would be as good as the Charlotte Bobcats. :lol...

These dudes got lucky with Leonard too but hopefully kawhi leaves.

[TimDunkem]

Same can be said about the pussies that blindly jizz rag for PATFO and believe that corporate knowledge can beat the 5 fucking superteams that just got formed
lmao Chemistry is fucking overrated. Look at all the teams forming out of nowhere that are already eager to play together and go at each other. I'm sure the same people talking about chemistry are the same people who thought chemistry and fit were going to be a problem when GS dumped half of their 73 win team to add Durant. :lmao

As if losing Fatty would've killed the entire team's chemistry anyway...Didn't know this team was so fragile. No wonder Kawhi is the only alpha.

[spurraider21]

https://m.popkey.co/0faba5/Ej8em.gif

[TimDunkem]

Dude, Without TD this franchise reputation would be as good as the Charlotte Bobcats. :lol...

These dudes got lucky with Leonard too but hopefully kawhi leaves.
Again, where the fuck would we be if RC didn't luck out with Kawhi? His first choice was Valanciunas. :lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

PG: Patty Mills, Dejounte Murray, Tony Parker
SG: Danny Green, Adam Hanga, Derrick White, Bryn Forbes
SF: Kyle Anderson, Jaron Blossomgame
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge, Davis Bertans
C:



That fucking supporting cast for our franchise player in his prime :lmao

Which other team created a good supporting cast without multiple lottery picks as assets?

[apalisoc_9]

Again, where the fuck would we be if RC didn't luck out with Kawhi? His first choice was Valanciunas. :lol
:lmao

[TimDunkem]

:lmao
Cory Joseph over Butler. Valanciunas (if RC had it his way) over everyone else. Fathead over Jokic. Livio Jean-Charles, Marcus Williams over Marc Gasol, Ian Mahinmi. :lmao

[duncan2150]

Cory Joseph over Butler. Valanciunas over everyone else. Fathead over Jokic. Livio Jean-Charles, Marcus Williams over Marc Gasol, Ian Mahinmi. :lmao


You can make this for every nba team and for some of them that will be way worse than the Spurs....

[Pavlov]

How one make official?

Notary?

[TimDunkem]

You can make this for every nba team and for some of them that will be way worse than the Spurs....
Still, I thought he was supposed a genius drafter. He's had only a couple of good picks in the last ten years. One he lucked out on. :lol

Also, even I knew CJ over Butler at the time was dumb as fuck. He would've been great running the wings with Kawhi...

[TheGreatYacht]

Cory Joseph over Butler. Valanciunas (if RC had it his way) over everyone else. Fathead over Jokic. Livio Jean-Charles, Marcus Williams over Marc Gasol, Ian Mahinmi. :lmao
Derrick White will be next on the list. So much talent available and he drafted a 23yr old 4th string PG.

Buford knows his slurpers will just say "It was a late first round pick. It was hit or miss that late"

[TimDunkem]

Derrick White will be next on the list. So much talent available and he drafted a 23yr old 4th string PG.

Buford knows his slurpers will just say "It was a late first round pick. It was hit or miss that late"
Meanwhile, Utah made moves to take the guy the Spurs really wanted, the Warriors are giving chump change up for first round talent, and we end up with a guy who'll be redundant given that we were just going to re-sign Patty, bring Manu back, and wait for TP to return "better than ever" anyway. :lol

[cutewizard]

disappointing so far, but

hope springs eternal

[Keepin' it real]

How one make official?

Notary?

Snap chat

[TheGreatYacht]

How one make official?
Empty seats. Spurs fans not paying to watch this lottery team Drunkford assembled

[TimDunkem]

Empty seats. Spurs fans not paying to watch this lottery team Drunkford assembled
Maybe they'll use the " :cry :cry :cry three million a year Patty sacrificed :cry :cry :cry " to build a Whataburger/Taco Cabana stand courtside. At least that will keep the fans going to games.

[ceperez]

Empty seats. Spurs fans not paying to watch this lottery team Drunkford assembled

What does the lottery team look like now (let's assume Parker and Ginobili aren't showing up, and aldridge traded)?

Mills, Murray, White, Forbes
Green, Simmons, Hanga
Leonard,Blossomgame
Anderson,Bertans
Pau, (Scrub center... Baynes?)

13 players. That looks like the lineup. That's not even considering some other player that gets trade for Aldridge. Honestly, I think someone is getting traded from this group.

Spurs may likely keep Aldridge and see if there is a trade later in the season.

[TheGreatYacht]

What does the lottery team look like now (let's assume Parker and Ginobili aren't showing up, and aldridge traded)?

Mills, Murray, White, Forbes
Green, Simmons, Hanga
Leonard,Blossomgame
Anderson,Bertans
Pau, (Scrub center... Baynes?)

13 players. That looks like the lineup.
That's the best case scenario, now that the offseason is ruined. Kawhi needs to have an "injury" like D-Rob did before #21 happened

[SuperCam]

PATFO suckers would have a point if other teams were giving up a lot, but Boogie/Buckets/George are being moved for piles of shit. and all for what, to preserve 2018 cap space so another class of free agents refuses to meet :lol

[bklynspursfan]

:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

http://data-sports.abs-cbn.com/dev/articles/1498776118_timberwolves-butler-a-webf-small.jpg

We had a fucking Bugatti in Scott Layden 2 years ago, and we kept a fucking Honda.

http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/40/21/37/8460282/5/1024x1024.jpg
19100225376
Ask Knicks fans about how well that "Bugatti" ran.

[cd98]

Spurs can't swing trades because our assets are low level. All our draft picks are late first round picks. And our developed players are seen as system players. But hey, what does Boston have? And they have the assets to put together a GSW level of talent team.

[SuperCam]

Spurs can't swing trades because our assets are low level. All our draft picks are late first round picks. And our developed players are seen as system players. But hey, what does Boston have? And they have the assets to put together a GSW level of talent team.

But the PATFO suckers are saying that standing pat is fine because those assets they admit are low level are all Kiwi needs to be surrounded with the next four years :lmao

[HankChinaski]

Another summer another take from people shit bagging the front office.

It is officially summer free agency

[Clipper Nation]

But the PATFO suckers are saying that standing pat is fine because those assets they admit are low level are all Kiwi needs to be surrounded with the next four years :lmao
Not like it matters. As soon as he's a free agent, Kawhi is coming home to LA to join MVBlake. :downspin:

[AFBlue]

Literally no one gives a shit if OP is "done" with the Spurs FO. No one needs you to be a fan. GTFO.

Pop and RC have put a competitive playoff team together every year for the better part of two decades. That kind of sustained success is unprecedented, and it doesn't happen by accident.

And don't give me the Duncan excuse. Other teams with superstars, like Kobe the Lakers had several years where they were god awful while having a superstar or superstars on their team.

This FO may not get everything right, but it's clear that Spurs fans have been spoiled. So yeah, GTFO.

[mookie2001]

Mills. Plays like Mel Blanc whenever he has carte blanche

[DJR210]

This is the year PATFO surprises everyone by unleashing LJC on the league. Doubters beware!

Oh boy how will the league prepare for his 2.4 ppg and 1.6 RPG

[GSH]

Well this is troubling. Wonder how they are going to react when they hear you are officially done.


Really should have made the threat before free agency opened, duh. Now it's too late.

[noles1983]

This Spurs roster is full of explosive diarrhea

[nyspurguy]

I guess we better hope between Murray, Simmons, Anderson and Bertans, at least one of them becomes an all-star this upcoming season. If we can keep him, I think Simmons would have the best shot of being an all-star caliber player in 2017-18. Murray has the most potential. But he's at least two full years away from being the second or even third fiddle. Kawhi's gonna have to do his best Russell Westbrook impersonation.

[8FOR!3]

Literally no one gives a shit if OP is "done" with the Spurs FO. No one needs you to be a fan. GTFO.

Pop and RC have put a competitive playoff team together every year for the better part of two decades. That kind of sustained success is unprecedented, and it doesn't happen by accident.

And don't give me the Duncan excuse. Other teams with superstars, like Kobe the Lakers had several years where they were god awful while having a superstar or superstars on their team.

This FO may not get everything right, but it's clear that Spurs fans have been spoiled. So yeah, GTFO.

Thank you. The way a ome of the people posting here despise the team/front office makes this site unreadable at some points. We signed a 28 year old role player to a 4 year deal and at a decent fair price, and yet people flip out

[Mr. Body]

I guess we better hope between Murray, Simmons, Anderson and Bertans, at least one of them becomes an all-star this upcoming season. If we can keep him, I think Simmons would have the best shot of being an all-star caliber player in 2017-18. Murray has the most potential. But he's at least two full years away from being the second or even third fiddle. Kawhi's gonna have to do his best Russell Westbrook impersonation.

None of those players will be an All-Star. The only chance we had at another All-Star was the guy who just pussied out and is named Aldridge.

[skulls138]

I will have to finally concede how vastly overrated they have been for quite some time by the media and in some executive circles.


They are still running an obsolete, risk-averse operation -- drunk on players loyalty and the primacy of the cultural fit-- in a cutthroat professional league that has broken into the equivalent of an arms race.


When you hear the coach of team in the exit interview talking about the level of players' versatility needed to beat a team like Golden State only to proceed and give 50 millions to a one trick pony midget—a career 6 ppg in the playoffs who has gotten continuously decimated by the very same Dubs team for the past few years— you know the jig is up in San Antonio..

It is very much looking like Leonard prime is going to be wasted here..Between the extreme end-of-game luck they were beneficiaries of last year and the improvement of the West this offseason, even their precious "60-wins"--fools gold really-- won't be attainable..

As of tonight, this team fails at the most basic equation forming a typical title contender (or even a team a rung below it): talent deficit..Yeah, we'll see how good Houston is, we'll see how good Okc is. The only fuck up weve made is in making a FA splash in LA, a move most people were excited about (remember that????), and people just want us to do it again.

[robert1886]

Spoiled ass fans . Go join another crappy ass organizations fan base

[DMC]

I told everyone here that the Spurs were going to pretty much stand pat. It makes sense. They aren't getting anyone who can get them any further than they got last year, so more expensive names who demand ball time are not going to do anything for the outcome of the season. They develop what they have and wait for an opportunity if one arises.

GS is a like a hurricane, you just survive it, you don't beat it. It will have to lose strength on its own and it will but you need to know when to make your move. Doing so now just uses up all your financial ammo prematurely.

[Horse]

I smell an epic 2011 like collapse against one of these up and coming teams incoming if the FO doesn't get their shit together and get Kawhi help. Either that or he'll go down with a serious injury after carrying the team on his back for another year yet again.
Completely leaving out manus broke arm.

[TimDunkem]

Completely leaving out manus broke arm.
They were better at every single position that year. :lol

[EIC]

I told everyone here that the Spurs were going to pretty much stand pat. It makes sense. They aren't getting anyone who can get them any further than they got last year, so more expensive names who demand ball time are not going to do anything for the outcome of the season. They develop what they have and wait for an opportunity if one arises.

GS is a like a hurricane, you just survive it, you don't beat it. It will have to lose strength on its own and it will but you need to know when to make your move. Doing so now just uses up all your financial ammo prematurely.

That's that winning attitude you want from your FO. "X team is really, really good. Rather than compete, our plan is to just wait for them to implode." Never mind that the Spurs themselves are on the back side of a +15-year chokehold on the NBA, but whatever.

[TimDunkem]

That's that winning attitude you want from your FO. "X team is really, really good. Rather than compete, our plan is to just wait for them to implode." Never mind that the Spurs themselves are on the back side of a +15-year chokehold on the NBA, but whatever.
And, even if the best thing to do is roll over this year, why not just roll with the young players, develop them, instead of locking up our past their prime vets who play no D and choke against the best teams? :lol

[marinoman]

Our guards were horrible last year, and our guards will be even worse this year

[skulls138]

I told everyone here that the Spurs were going to pretty much stand pat. It makes sense. They aren't getting anyone who can get them any further than they got last year, so more expensive names who demand ball time are not going to do anything for the outcome of the season. They develop what they have and wait for an opportunity if one arises.

GS is a like a hurricane, you just survive it, you don't beat it. It will have to lose strength on its own and it will but you need to know when to make your move. Doing so now just uses up all your financial ammo prematurely.This. Chemistry is everything. Before we get anybody else we need LA to come to his senses, hes the guy. Hes the guy who can fit this team if he would get it right upstairs. Theres no FA out there that could help us more than a "right" version of LA. No more talent needed, just a willingness to fit the role needed.

[TimDunkem]

Our chemistry must be really fucking fragile if losing Patty would've destroyed that. Obviously, this is a team that isn't contending if that's how mentally weak they are. :lol

[spursistan]

eh..At least one won't have any illusion about contention with next year"s team..Gonna sit back and enjoy watching Kawhi go HAM on the league..

[TimDunkem]

Then going down in the playoffs after overworking himself carrying all the dead weight again.

[cjw]

What does the lottery team look like now (let's assume Parker and Ginobili aren't showing up, and aldridge traded)?

Mills, Murray, White, Forbes
Green, Simmons, Hanga
Leonard,Blossomgame
Anderson,Bertans
Pau, (Scrub center... Baynes?)

13 players. That looks like the lineup. That's not even considering some other player that gets trade for Aldridge. Honestly, I think someone is getting traded from this group.

Spurs may likely keep Aldridge and see if there is a trade later in the season.
Not fair to claim that that's the roster that will be on the floor heading into next season. There's still the MLE to be spent which would add a productive player.

Also, are you assuming they get back nothing for Aldridge?

[r0drig0lac]

I guess we better hope between Murray, Simmons, Anderson and Bertans, at least one of them becomes an all-star this upcoming season. If we can keep him, I think Simmons would have the best shot of being an all-star caliber player in 2017-18. Murray has the most potential. But he's at least two full years away from being the second or even third fiddle. Kawhi's gonna have to do his best Russell Westbrook impersonation.http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

[Hoops Czar]

:lol

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

I guess we better hope between Murray, Simmons, Anderson and Bertans, at least one of them becomes an all-star this upcoming season.
:lmao

[spurs10]

Well this is troubling. Wonder how they are going to react when they hear you are officially done. Yes extremely troubling. :bang

[TimDunkem]

Not fair to claim that that's the roster that will be on the floor heading into next season. There's still the MLE to be spent which would add a productive player.

Also, are you assuming they get back nothing for Aldridge?
MLE is probably going to Manu because "one more year (of carrying Fatty and the bench) :cry" .

[spursistan]

I remember when Zach Lowe wrote this a couple of months ago..


he's not, the Spurs will ask themselves hard questions in the offseason. They are not going to waste Leonard's prime. They have some grand ideas for how to reshape the team, but it will be hard to free up money to execute them without moving a significant salary somewhere.

http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/19300000/zach-lowe-lamarcus-aldridge-san-antonio-spurs-nba-playoffs

"Grand ideas" :lmao

[100%duncan]

A lot of cry-baby bitch-made pussies in this forum who don't understand that chemistry is important, the cap has gone up considerably, and the Spurs have never won championships by signing superstar FAs.

Yeah chemistry. The 2nd best player is a fucking pussy diva who can't wait to get out of SA :lol

[TimDunkem]

I remember when Zach Lowe wrote this a couple of months ago..



http://www.espn.com.au/nba/story/_/id/19300000/zach-lowe-lamarcus-aldridge-san-antonio-spurs-nba-playoffs

"Grand ideas" :lmao
http://i.imgur.com/DG8Uayk.png:"I know what we must do...Lock up Patty."

[TheGreatYacht]

http://legionhoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Warriors-Big-4.jpg
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[TimDunkem]

:lmao :lmao :lmao
http://www.starrcards.com/wp-content/uploads/spurs-by-spuran-spuran.jpg

[RD2191]

http://legionhoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Warriors-Big-4.jpg
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:lmao this deserves its own thread

[marinoman]

http://legionhoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Warriors-Big-4.jpg
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http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/themonitor.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/e4/6e468c78-dbe9-11e3-96ba-0017a43b2370/537442a1e616c.image.jpg


Wolves goin after milsap too

[spursistan]

Spurs aren't even Top 5 team in the West in terms of raw talent on paper..And it is not like they are blowing these teams out of the depth water either..

Warriors: Curry, KD, Draymond, Klay
Houston: Harden, CP3
Wolves: KAT, Butler, Wiggins, (Millsap?)
Pelicans: AD, Cousins, Jrue
OKC: Russ, PG13

[TheGreatYacht]

Spurs aren't even Top 5 team in the West in terms of raw talent on paper..And it is not like they are blowing these teams out of the depth water either..

Warriors: Curry, KD, Draymond, Klay
Houston: Harden, CP3
Wolves: KAT, Butler, Wiggins, (Millsap?)
Pelicans: AD, Cousins, Jrue
OKC: Russ, PG13
Look at this #depth


PG: Patty Mills, Dejounte Murray, Tony Parker
SG: Danny Green, Adam Hanga, Derrick White, Bryn Forbes
SF: Kyle Anderson, Jaron Blossomgame
PF: Lamarcus Aldridge, Davis Bertans
C:

[SuperCam]

Kiwi's prime will be over before you know it. Two way wings can't carry offense/defense in their 30s...

[EIC]

And, even if the best thing to do is roll over this year, why not just roll with the young players, develop them, instead of locking up our past their prime vets who play no D and choke against the best teams? :lol

Exactly. I'd be semi-okay with clearing bad contracts and developing young talent we drafted while positioning ourselves for targeted, prudent FA acquisitions in 2018/2019. But doubling down on riff raff? Stupid.

[TimDunkem]

Exactly. I'd be semi-okay with clearing bad contracts and developing young talent we drafted while positioning ourselves for targeted, prudent FA acquisitions in 2018/2019. But doubling down on riff raff? Stupid.
Just wait until we re-sign Gasoft to a longer deal. :lmao

[EIC]

http://legionhoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Warriors-Big-4.jpg
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LOL. Need one with Parker on the deck, too.

[TD 21]

Imagine the vitriol had I started this thread? :lmao :wow

It's clear they're no longer even attempting to contend and are content with being good. There's no other explanation for the predictable Mills re-signing, when he can't play against the most relevant teams, they just drafted a player with at least some overlap and now have 4 PG or combo guards, who all project as rotation players.

The two way burden on Leonard is going to be even more extreme now, with 3 West teams adding legit second stars (one a superstar), meaning he'll have to defend one all game against them. Also, in the cases of 2, they're good wing defenders, who can now devout more energy to it, making it more difficult on him.

Feels like the bottom is about to fall out on this team. Felt it last year, but they had rare late game luck and the talent in the league was more dispersed. Now, a disgruntled Aldridge, unproven Murray being thrust into a significant role (at least to start) and another year older Gasol, Ginobili and Parker, who'll be coming off a devastating injury. They'll probably still find a way to secure a top 4 seed, but they'll be hard pressed to win a round.

[TimDunkem]

LOL. Need one with Parker on the deck, too.
The Big 3. :lobt2:

http://i.imgur.com/ujkGigD.jpg

[Clipper Nation]

The Big 3. :lobt2:

http://i.imgur.com/ujkGigD.jpg
:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

The Big 3. :lobt2:

http://i.imgur.com/ujkGigD.jpg
That's Patty bro :lol but still...

[TimDunkem]

That's Patty bro :lol but still...
Look in the back. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Look in the back. :lol
God damn it

[TimDunkem]

:lmao

[timtonymanu]

http://legionhoops.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Warriors-Big-4.jpg
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http://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/themonitor.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/6/e4/6e468c78-dbe9-11e3-96ba-0017a43b2370/537442a1e616c.image.jpg

Pretty sad

[EIC]

The Big 3. :lobt2:

http://i.imgur.com/ujkGigD.jpg


LOL. Nicely done. That is classic! Do I get the assist?

[cjw]

MLE is probably going to Manu because "one more year (of carrying Fatty and the bench) :cry" .

Not sure you understand how this stuff works. Spurs have Manu's bird rights so don't need the MLE to sign him.

Try again

[EIC]

Just wait until we re-sign Gasoft to a longer deal. :lmao

PATFO like an ISIS suicide bomber at that point.

[TimDunkem]

Not sure you understand how this stuff works. Spurs have Manu's bird rights so don't need the MLE to sign him.

Try again
Oh boo hoo, so I fucked up on CBA minutia. Doesn't matter. Still rolling back the same team. Guess that MLE is going to Pau. :lmao

[rastaspur]

Well this is troubling. Wonder how they are going to react when they hear you are officially done.

:lol

[timtonymanu]

And here we were bitching about the team last season, this year's roster might top that.

Other than Kawhi, the development of Murray and maybe Manu's farewell tour. We have a disgruntled Aldridge, a year older role players, no more Simmons, hobbled Parker on the bench thinking he can still make a comeback. Not things to look forward to.

[cjw]

Oh boo hoo, so I fucked up on CBA minutia. Doesn't matter. Still rolling back the same team. Guess that MLE is going to Pau. :lmao

Actually they'll sign him with non-Bird. Try again.

[TimDunkem]

So they're re-signing Pau for sure? What a disappointment. :lmao

[freemeat]

ummmm.....but it's a pretty effective method. :lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt::lobt:

[DaBears]

I will have to finally concede how vastly overrated they have been for quite some time by the media and in some executive circles.


They are still running an obsolete, risk-averse operation -- drunk on players loyalty and the primacy of the cultural fit-- in a cutthroat professional league that has broken into the equivalent of an arms race.


When you hear the coach of team in the exit interview talking about the level of players' versatility needed to beat a team like Golden State only to proceed and give 50 millions to a one trick pony midget—a career 6 ppg in the playoffs who has gotten continuously decimated by the very same Dubs team for the past few years— you know the jig is up in San Antonio..

It is very much looking like Leonard prime is going to be wasted here..Between the extreme end-of-game luck they were beneficiaries of last year and the improvement of the West this offseason, even their precious "60-wins"--fools gold really-- won't be attainable..

As of tonight, this team fails at the most basic equation forming a typical title contender (or even a team a rung below it): talent deficit..

YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT!! Spurs are bringing back roughly the same roster that got them a 60+win record & WCF and possibly could have went the distance if it wasn't for injuries to 3 out of your top 8 players in the lineup.. If your a so-called Spurs fan then the rest of us fans are better off as a fan base without you... Take your over the top winning to the Rockets or Warriors bandwagon forums..

-- As a Spurs fan i do acknowledge that things don't go the way we'd hope as far getting talent in, trust me i do.. But it is a lot easier to be a backseat driver, than it is actually driving the bus..

[timtonymanu]

YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT!! Spurs are bringing back roughly the same roster that got them a 60+win record & WCF and possibly could have went the distance if it wasn't for injuries to 3 out of your top 8 players in the lineup.. If your a so-called Spurs fan then the rest of us fans are better off as a fan base without you... Take your over the top winning to the Rockets or Warriors bandwagon forums..

-- As a Spurs fan i do acknowledge that things don't go the way we'd hope as far getting talent in, trust me i do.. But it is a lot easier to be a backseat driver, than it is actually driving the bus..

Yeah but this year's team has no healthy Tony Parker, possibly no Simmons, Manu who is a year older (I know he had a good playoff run, but Timmy was also an all star player in 2015 the season before he was finished for good, it's a risk), other aging role players like Pau and Lee possibly. Meanwhile the Rockets and Thunder improve. We can't keep using previous seasons as a measure for the next one. Something the Spurs front office keeps doing year in and year out. They have to keep trying to improve. I agree with your last statement though.

[TimDunkem]

YOU ARE KIDDING RIGHT!! Spurs are bringing back roughly the same roster that got them a 60+win record & WCF and possibly could have went the distance if it wasn't for injuries to 3 out of your top 8 players in the lineup.. If your a so-called Spurs fan then the rest of us fans are better off as a fan base without you... Take your over the top winning to the Rockets or Warriors bandwagon forums..

-- As a Spurs fan i do acknowledge that things don't go the way we'd hope as far getting talent in, trust me i do.. But it is a lot easier to be a backseat driver, than it is actually driving the bus..
60 wins? We'll be lucky to crack 55 with this same roster a year older while the West continues to load up on talent. :lol

Hope Kawhi doesn't go down with an injury again carrying these scrubs...We'll see if ST enjoys these loyalty contracts then. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Yeah but this year's team has no healthy Tony Parker, possibly no Simmons, Manu who is a year older (I know he had a good playoff run, but Timmy was also an all star player in 2015 the season before he was finished for good, it's a risk), other aging role players like Pau and Lee possibly. Meanwhile the Rockets and Thunder improve. We can't keep using previous seasons as a measure for the next one. Something the Spurs front office keeps doing year in and year out. They have to keep trying to improve. I agree with your last statement though.
Don't forget that the fucking T'Wolves passed us in terms of overall talent too(although we need to see how it works out), and still aren't done loading up. Meanwhile, we locked up Fatty and are bringing the rest of the washed up band back. :lol

[dabom]

Wolves past us in talent? Since when. :lol

[TimDunkem]

Since their starting lineup became better than ours. And if they add Millsap? :lmao 2011 Spurs-esque collapse incoming.

Mills<<<Teague
Green<<<<<<<<Butler
Kawhi>>>>>>>>Wiggins
LMA<Millsap
Gasoft< Pretty much anyone

[dabom]

Since their starting lineup became better than ours. And if they add Millsap? :lmao 2011 Spurs-esque collapse incoming.

Mills<<<Teague
Green<<<<<<<<Butler
Kawhi>>>>>>>>Wiggins
LMA<Millsap
Gasoft< Pretty much anyone

Doesn't work that way. You'll see when the season is over. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Tyus Jones >>>> Pity Mills

[DaBears]

Yeah but this year's team has no healthy Tony Parker, possibly no Simmons, Manu who is a year older (I know he had a good playoff run, but Timmy was also an all star player in 2015 the season before he was finished for good, it's a risk), other aging role players like Pau and Lee possibly. Meanwhile the Rockets and Thunder improve. We can't keep using previous seasons as a measure for the next one. Something the Spurs front office keeps doing year in and year out. They have to keep trying to improve. I agree with your last statement though.


JSIMMs just offered 9 mil contract. He is staying put.. They will pick up 1 or 2 quality players that come JAN will shock us all & have us all including myself stating this guy is one of the best in the league come next year. We may come out of this offseason With Rudy G. As well.. I say that is a talented roster... It gives you a fighting chance, and that's all that you can ask for...

[TimDunkem]

Doesn't work that way. You'll see when the season is over. :lol
Not saying it's a given, but shit doesn't look good. Meanwhile, all Kawhi has for help is a declining Green and Softus. :lol

[timtonymanu]

The improvement of Murray, Bertans and how White and Blossomgame (if he even makes it past training camp) are the only things I'm looking forward to this season with Kawhi playing at an MVP level and winning it

[timtonymanu]

I'm still convinced Spurs have the 3rd highest ceiling at best in the West. Kawhi is a superstar and Murray should be a nice improvement.

IMO it's

Warriors




Rockets
Spurs
Thunder
Timberwolves
Jazz (if they can get Hayward back)
Blazers
Pelicans
Clippers

[SpurOutofTownFan]

so much fail, so much complaining and bullshit.. jesus christ lots of fucking morons

[skulls138]

Our chemistry must be really fucking fragile if losing Patty would've destroyed that. Obviously, this is a team that isn't contending if that's how mentally weak they are. :lolPretty sure we were a top three team last year. Pretty sure we werent the Nets last year.

We need a player donr get me wrong but its got to fit and not get in the way of our developing players who could be an all star themselves

[bklynspursfan]

so much fail, so much complaining and bullshit.. jesus christ lots of fucking morons

Absolutely. Never fails tho , year in and year out

[BillMc]

People afraid of a D'Antoni team. :lol Spurs still second in the west.

Don't fix what isn't broke. People was splashy signings but sometimes the best you can do is restock and let others make the mistakes.

[TheGreatYacht]

Pretty sure we were a top three team last year. Pretty sure we werent the Nets last year.
Lmao casuals continue to bring up records and conference finals appearances as if Kawhi wasn't 100% responsible for it.

This team couldn't hold on to a 23pt lead for a half without Kawhi. God damn pathetic

[AFBlue]

Lmao casuals continue to bring up records and conference finals appearances as if Kawhi wasn't 100% responsible for it.

This team couldn't hold on to a 23pt lead for a half without Kawhi. God damn pathetic

Did Kawhi leave this team during the offseason? Unless that's the case, your point is moot. There's reason for optimism as long as Kawhi is a part of this team and healthy. The early 2000s Duncan teams were no different.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Did Kawhi leave this team during the offseason? Unless that's the case, your point is moot. There's reason for optimism as long as Kawhi is a part of this team and healthy. The early 2000s Duncan teams were no different.

He's just bitter his french boyfriend is out indefinitely

[ernest787]

Did Kawhi leave this team during the offseason? Unless that's the case, your point is moot. There's reason for optimism as long as Kawhi is a part of this team and healthy. The early 2000s Duncan teams were no different.

It seems a lot of posters here may not have been around for the early 2k Spurs, so for them this is all new.

[TheGreatYacht]

Did Kawhi leave this team during the offseason? Unless that's the case, your point is moot. There's reason for optimism as long as Kawhi is a part of this team and healthy. The early 2000s Duncan teams were no different.
Sam Presti isn't walking thru that door to draft the next Tony Parker. You can keep thinking Kawhi with his already bad knees and ankles can keep carrying this load for years to come. Everything is awesome!

[TheGreatYacht]

It seems a lot of posters here may not have been around for the early 2k Spurs, so for them this is all new.
Feel bad for those fans that missed Duncan carrying Popovich and the scrubs around him. Arguably a Top 5 player that should've won at least 7-8 rings if PATFO didn't get in the way

[DarrinS]

Sam Presti isn't walking thru that door to draft the next Tony Parker. You can keep thinking Kawhi with his already bad knees and ankles can keep carrying this load for years to come. Everything is awesome!

Corpse of Tony coming back next year. It's going to be a great season. :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Corpse of Tony coming back next year. It's going to be a great season. :lmao
Manure the half man returning to bring us more scoreless memorable comedic gems :lmao

[TimDunkem]

Corpse of Tony coming back next year. It's going to be a great season. :lmao
Just you wait...He's coming back better than ever...

:lmao

[TimDunkem]

Manure the half man returning to bring us more scoreless memorable comedic gems :lmao
Just imagine how tired Ol' Manu is going to be running the offense off the bench for Patty again next season. :lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

Just imagine how tired Ol' Manu is going to be running the offense off the bench for Patty again next season. :lmao
Those poor fans when Turnobili suits up one last year :lmao

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-05-2015/GM7Zup.gif

[TimDunkem]

Those poor fans when Turnobili suits up one last year :lmao

https://i.makeagif.com/media/8-05-2015/GM7Zup.gif
Thought that was a .gif from the 2013 Finals for a second there. :lmao

[SpursforSix]

Did Kawhi leave this team during the offseason? Unless that's the case, your point is moot. There's reason for optimism as long as Kawhi is a part of this team and healthy. The early 2000s Duncan teams were no different.

Don't get me wrong. Leonard is a superstar. But he's not Duncan. You have a top 3 player of all time whose a big and they can carry a team a long way and erase a lot of defensive mistakes. As good as Leonard is, if someone gets by him, there's not much behind him to clean up.

[AFBlue]

Sam Presti isn't walking thru that door to draft the next Tony Parker. You can keep thinking Kawhi with his already bad knees and ankles can keep carrying this load for years to come. Everything is awesome!

Sam wasn't here when they turned George Hill into a top-15 pick and took an eventual top-5 player in the league. The fact that the Spurs FO has so much respect from the media and so little respect on this board absolutely blows my mind. Through the draft and free agency they continue to find and develop players into contributing members of championship-contending teams. But yeah, keep doubting and putting off the success on people who haven't been here for years while they've sustained it.

[DMC]

That's that winning attitude you want from your FO. "X team is really, really good. Rather than compete, our plan is to just wait for them to implode." Never mind that the Spurs themselves are on the back side of a +15-year chokehold on the NBA, but whatever.

This isn't JV basketball where everyone gets a pep talk. It's a business that's in place first and foremost to make a profit. You don't do that by breaking the bank with a poor ROI outlook.

[spursince#99]

This thread is so discouraging.

[DenialTwist]

Kawhi needs help. Spurs couldn't even get a meeting with any big names in free agency. They must be punting next season. Running it back is not a good idea when every other team in the West is getting better.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Lmao casuals continue to bring up records and conference finals appearances as if Kawhi wasn't 100% responsible for it.

This team couldn't hold on to a 23pt lead for a half without Kawhi. God damn pathetic

Hit the nail on the head right there!

[cutewizard]

Kawhi and Manu are rapidly becoming
\
THE LAST OF THE MOHICANS



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQc7C4Ug96M

[davi78239]

If the FO blows it next summer with all the money spurs will supposedly have, Buford has completely lost it and its time for a change upstairs.

[cutewizard]

Perhaps Manu should be GM, hmmmmm

[AFBlue]

If the FO blows it next summer with all the money spurs will supposedly have, Buford has completely lost it and its time for a change upstairs.

I fully expect a trade that eats into future cap space. No way the Spurs count on bringing more than one max-type free agent in.

[21209]

I'm happy the Spurs didn't go after any big name free agents this year.

No incoming big name player additions this off-season would have put the Spurs on par with Golden State next season.

Houston and OKC will find that out the hard way.

[Atl Spur]

I'm happy the Spurs didn't go after any big name free agents this year.

No incoming big name player additions this off-season would have put the Spurs on par with Golden State next season.

Houston and OKC will find that out the hard way.

IDK... Gordon Hayward type and good wing defender could put us on top.

[TheGreatYacht]

I'm happy the Spurs didn't go after any big name free agents this year.

No incoming big name player additions this off-season would have put the Spurs on par with Golden State next season.

Houston and OKC will find that out the hard way.
So just be pleased with being one of those playoff teams with no HCA and one all star, huh? Hawks West.

Getting an all star to pair up with Kawhi this season would've been great when recruiting next year. Even if 2 all stars wasn't enough to beat GS this year, Spurs would've had cap room for a third max contract next year....

Why would free agents choose to come play in the shitty city of San Antonio if they aren't even close to being a superteam like GS, HOU, OKC, and MIN? Why would they come play with Kawhi surrounded with d-leaguers, euro scrubs, TOSB's, and One-Dimensional players?

[TimDunkem]

So just be pleased with being one of those playoff teams with no HCA and one all star, huh? Hawks West.

Getting an all star to pair up with Kawhi this season would've been great when recruiting next year. Even if 2 all stars wasn't enough to beat GS this year, Spurs would've had cap room for a third max contract next year....

Why would free agents choose to come play in the shitty city of San Antonio if they aren't even close to being a superteam like GS, HOU, OKC, and MIN? Why would they come play with Kawhi surrounded with d-leaguers, euro scrubs, TOSB's, and One-Dimensional players?Fucking truth bomb. Only hope for the Spurs now is making some lopsided trade in our favor. Otherwise, it's a wasted year of Kawhi's prime in the hopes of landing some FA next year.

And we know that's not going to happen. :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Fucking truth bomb. Only hope for the Spurs now is making some lopsided trade in our favor. Otherwise, it's a wasted year of Kawhi's prime in the hopes of landing some FA next year.

And we know that's not going to happen. :lol
Didn't even mention Los Angeles, who will be a powerhouse again (when they get Kawhi?)

[TimDunkem]

Didn't even mention Los Angeles, who will be a powerhouse again (when they get Kawhi?)
Kawhi/Russ/PG13 would be a better core than anything Kawhi has had so far. Wouldn't blame him if he bolts back to Cali in a few years. He shouldn't have to waste his prime playing next to Fatty, LaSoftus, and the biggest weapon off the bench being a 41 Argie who plays this "Don't know what I'm going to do" game every off-season.

[TheGreatYacht]

Kawhi/Russ/PG13 would be a better core than anything Kawhi has had so far. Wouldn't blame him if he bolts back to Cali in a few years. He shouldn't have to waste his prime playing next to Fatty, LaSoftus, and the biggest weapon off the bench being a 41 Argie who plays this "Don't know what I'm going to do" game every off-season.
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzxiyu8Btb1qj3i85.gif

PATFO apologists/fluffers are disgusting...

[TimDunkem]

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzxiyu8Btb1qj3i85.gif

PATFO apologists/fluffers are disgusting...
:cry Fatty is an important piece to the team :cry
:cry Fathead at PF :cry
:cry When TP comes back... :cry
:cry Manu has earned the right to jerk the Spurs around every off-season :cry
:cry 2018 FA class :cry
:cry We were up on the rusty Warriors for three quarters :cry
:cry Kawhi will carry the team by himself to glory :cry
:cry LMA will finally care enough to come into camp in shape because it's a contract year :cry
:cry The Western Conference hasn't gotten that much better :cry
:cry Culture over talent every day of the week :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

:cry Fatty is an important piece to the team :cry
:cry Fathead at PF :cry
:cry When TP comes back... :cry
:cry Manu has earned the right to jerk the Spurs around every off-season :cry
:cry 2018 FA class :cry
:cry We were up on the rusty Warriors for three quarters :cry
:cry Kawhi will carry the team by himself to glory :cry
:cry LMA will finally care enough to come into camp in shape because it's a contract year :cry
:cry The Western Conference hasn't gotten that much better :cry
:cry Culture over talent every day of the week :cry
:lmao

[TimDunkem]

:lmao
:cry Spurs fans are so spoiled to expect PATFO not to waste Kawhi's prime :cry

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

882025987864702978

:lmao RC Buford and his premature 12:01am deals
:lmao been fucking our cap since it was made
:lmao Collison >>>>> Fatty Mills
:lmao Hill might be taking a 1yr deal now too

[jimbo]

Which other team created a good supporting cast without multiple lottery picks as assets?

Miami's done well for themselves. Winslow was the highest draft pick and he hasn't even played much. They hit on a ton of FAs. Whiteside, James Johnson, Waiters. Wayne Ellington is good for what he is. Tyler Johnson is their overpaid homegrown guy like us. They hit on Josh Richardson.

They're doing what the Spurs should have been doing. Looking for undervalued players by trusting in their scouting/evaluation to find bargains. Not resigning the same tired ass dudes over and over and over.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Miami's done well for themselves. Winslow was the highest draft pick and he hasn't even played much. They hit on a ton of FAs. Whiteside, James Johnson, Waiters. Wayne Ellington is good for what he is. Tyler Johnson is their overpaid homegrown guy like us. They hit on Josh Richardson.

They're doing what the Spurs should have been doing. Looking for undervalued players by trusting in their scouting/evaluation to find bargains. Not resigning the same tired ass dudes over and over and over.

Good for them. They might even make the playoffs in the next 5 years. Too bad they owe 2 first round picks too.

[spurspokesman]

Pay is 100 percent pure Charmin smh. This team as assembled will have its ass handed to them on several occasions. Im hoping the FO surprises us.

[tbdog]

:lmao RC Buford and his premature 12:01am deals
:lmao been fucking our cap since it was made
:lmao Collison >>>>> Fatty Mills
:lmao Hill might be taking a 1yr deal now too

How is Collison better? He is a below average pg in this league, with DV history and a career loser.

[Mr. Body]

:lmao RC Buford and his premature 12:01am deals
:lmao been fucking our cap since it was made
:lmao Collison >>>>> Fatty Mills
:lmao Hill might be taking a 1yr deal now too

What the fuck? Mills is way better than Collison.

[tmtcsc]

To be honest, the fact that PATFO somehow managed to get 1 superstar and a collection of corpses to the WCF is pretty damn amazing.

[TheGreatYacht]

What the fuck? Mills is way better than Collison.
The only thing Mills does at an elite level is shoot. Collison is just as good, as evident by his back-to-back 40 3P% seasons. Plus he's on a shorter and cheaper contract than Mr. 12:01am, here.

What is Mills better at than Collison? I'll wait.

[MaNu4Tres]

To be honest, the fact that PATFO somehow managed to get 1 superstar and a collection of corpses to the WCF is pretty damn amazing.

WCF is a great feat but lets put some context into the equation. The NBA and the West was watered down compared to other years. Houston was the only decent threat and Spurs struggled to get past Memphis.

So based on the results of beating Memphis & HOU in 6 games, that means everything is just great as is? Complacency with re-signing parts that dont move the needle will be the reason this team doesnt progress -- all while most other WC teams are doing everything they can to make gains on the Warriors.

Spurs standing pat and overpaying (overpaying due to context of crowded PG situation) to keep an expendable piece because of culture, while others are relentlessly trying to climb will be the reason other teams leap over the Spurs in the West the next 1-3 years.

Spurs should never be content or satisfied, but it seems to me they overvalue continuity and culture. It worked when they had 3 hall of famers in the prime of their career always steering the ship, but those days are long gone.

[TheGreatYacht]

To be honest, the fact that PATFO somehow managed to get 1 superstar and a collection of corpses to the WCF is pretty damn amazing.
Nothing amazing about that. The only thing PATFO managed to do was wear down Kawhi's body by carrying scrubs.

Unfortunately Drunkford is on pace to bring back that same shitty roster, but more expensive. Pretty sure Kawhi's family is already in Cali and is staying there till he gets back in free agency.

[SuperCam]

To be honest, the fact that PATFO somehow managed to get 1 superstar and a collection of corpses to the WCF is pretty damn amazing.

Harden did the same thing in 2015 and yet there weren't any Morey suckers on clutchfans talking about standing pat. Only spurfan has this moral victory mentality :lmao

[MaNu4Tres]

Harden did the same thing in 2015 and yet there weren't any Morey suckers on clutchfans talking about standing pat. Only spurfan has this moral victory mentality :lmao

Exactly.

[TheGreatYacht]

Harden did the same thing in 2015 and yet there weren't any Morey suckers on clutchfans talking about standing pat. Only spurfan has this moral victory mentality :lmao

[sasaint]

WCF is a great feat but lets put some context into the equation. The NBA and the West was watered down compared to other years. Houston was the only decent threat and Spurs struggled to get past Memphis.

So based on the results of beating Memphis & HOU in 6 games, that means everything is just great as is? Complacency with re-signing parts that dont move the needle will be the reason this team doesnt progress -- all while most other WC teams are doing everything they can to make gains on the Warriors.

Spurs standing pat and overpaying (overpaying due to context of crowded PG situation) to keep an expendable piece because of culture, while others are relentlessly trying to climb will be the reason other teams leap over the Spurs in the West the next 1-3 years.

Spurs should never be content or satisfied, but it seems to me they overvalue continuity and culture. It worked when they had 3 hall of famers in the prime of their career always steering the ship, but those days are long gone.

PATFO have operated for two decades with a safety net of players unique in the history of sports. The core of Timmy, Manu and Tony (and even DRob in the early years) have given PATFO (and many fans) a feeling of entitlement that has bred a sense of complacency. The much discussed GHill trade was about the only bold move the team has made in that entire time. PATFO has never felt any pressure to add a good young piece on an even rare basis for +/- 20 years. I think this season the chickens will all come home to roost. Without some unforeseen (and out-of-character) bold move between now and training camp, I believe we might expect another 50-win season; however truly competing with the Dubs is an unrealistic goal. In fact, fending off the up-coming teams who aim to compete with US after two decades of futility will be a big challenge this season. Another 50 wins will be a hard-fought accomplishment. Even winning a playoff series this season should be counted as success.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

WCF is a great feat but lets put some context into the equation. The NBA and the West was watered down compared to other years. Houston was the only decent threat and Spurs struggled to get past Memphis.

So based on the results of beating Memphis & HOU in 6 games, that means everything is just great as is? Complacency with re-signing parts that dont move the needle will be the reason this team doesnt progress -- all while most other WC teams are doing everything they can to make gains on the Warriors.

Spurs standing pat and overpaying (overpaying due to context of crowded PG situation) to keep an expendable piece because of culture, while others are relentlessly trying to climb will be the reason other teams leap over the Spurs in the West the next 1-3 years.

Spurs should never be content or satisfied, but it seems to me they overvalue continuity and culture. It worked when they had 3 hall of famers in the prime of their career always steering the ship, but those days are long gone.

:toast

[spursistan]

Harden did the same thing in 2015 and yet there weren't any Morey suckers on clutchfans talking about standing pat. Only spurfan has this moral victory mentality :lmao

This..

Damn, Supercam been destroying all PATFO-suckers this past week :lol..

[spursistan]

PATFO have chosen to stand pat -- as they like their team apparently-- despite the fact that a fluke Danny Green drive for an And-1 in Game 5 of Houston series was the difference between them losing in R2 in 6 and being up 23 HT vs a rusty Golden Sate :lol..

[apalisoc_9]

And yet media gives the 00-03 run all the credit to PATFO when it is painfully obvious it was all TD.

I bet you if they win 50+ again...the narrative would be so smart patfo when in reality they're getting carried by kawhi.


:lmao

Take no blame and get all the credit. Brilliant move by RC and POp to save their own assess.

[140]

t:lolday's PATF:lol

[Chillen]

PATFO have chosen to stand pat -- as they like their team apparently-- despite the fact that a fluke Danny Green drive for an And-1 in Game 5 of Houston series was the difference between them losing in R2 in 6 and being up 23 HT vs a rusty Golden Sate :lol..

Spurs will be lucky to win 50 games next season with Parker being out till January. Standing pat was not a good idea but it looks like they don't want to make any moves since nothing has happened and all the good players have signed. Derrick Rose is still possible but I doubt it happens.

[140]

Spurs will be lucky to win 50 games next season despite Parker being out till January. Standing pat was not a good idea but it looks like they don't want to make any moves since nothing has happened and all the good players have signed. Derrick Rose is still possible but I doubt it happens.
fify tbh

[TimDunkem]

Harden did the same thing in 2015 and yet there weren't any Morey suckers on clutchfans talking about standing pat. Only spurfan has this moral victory mentality :lmao
Truth bomb.

[TD 21]

WCF is a great feat but lets put some context into the equation. The NBA and the West was watered down compared to other years. Houston was the only decent threat and Spurs struggled to get past Memphis.

So based on the results of beating Memphis & HOU in 6 games, that means everything is just great as is? Complacency with re-signing parts that dont move the needle will be the reason this team doesnt progress -- all while most other WC teams are doing everything they can to make gains on the Warriors.

Spurs standing pat and overpaying (overpaying due to context of crowded PG situation) to keep an expendable piece because of culture, while others are relentlessly trying to climb will be the reason other teams leap over the Spurs in the West the next 1-3 years.

Spurs should never be content or satisfied, but it seems to me they overvalue continuity and culture. It worked when they had 3 hall of famers in the prime of their career always steering the ship, but those days are long gone.

:tu

[TimDunkem]

WCF is a great feat but lets put some context into the equation. The NBA and the West was watered down compared to other years. Houston was the only decent threat and Spurs struggled to get past Memphis.

So based on the results of beating Memphis & HOU in 6 games, that means everything is just great as is? Complacency with re-signing parts that dont move the needle will be the reason this team doesnt progress -- all while most other WC teams are doing everything they can to make gains on the Warriors.

Spurs standing pat and overpaying (overpaying due to context of crowded PG situation) to keep an expendable piece because of culture, while others are relentlessly trying to climb will be the reason other teams leap over the Spurs in the West the next 1-3 years.

Spurs should never be content or satisfied, but it seems to me they overvalue continuity and culture. It worked when they had 3 hall of famers in the prime of their career always steering the ship, but those days are long gone.Preach..

[ECOV]

Spurs will be lucky to win 50 games next season with Parker being out till January. Standing pat was not a good idea but it looks like they don't want to make any moves since nothing has happened and all the good players have signed. Derrick Rose is still possible but I doubt it happens.
dont count your chickens before they hatch.

[tmtcsc]

So based on the results of beating Memphis & HOU in 6 games, that means everything is just great as is?

Spurs standing pat and overpaying (overpaying due to context of crowded PG situation) to keep an expendable piece because of culture, while others are relentlessly trying to climb will be the reason other teams leap over the Spurs in the West the next 1-3 years.

Spurs should never be content or satisfied, but it seems to me they overvalue continuity and culture. It worked when they had 3 hall of famers in the prime of their career always steering the ship, but those days are long gone.


The much discussed GHill trade was about the only bold move the team has made in that entire time. competing with the Dubs is an unrealistic goal.



Harden did the same thing in 2015 and yet there weren't any Morey suckers on clutchfans talking about standing pat. Only spurfan has this moral victory mentality :lmao

Y'all are trippin.

Lets start with M4T - All I said was that it was amazing PATFO got the Spurs to the WCF with Kawhi and a bunch of corpses. I'd argue that the Spurs may have had the LEAST talented collection of players in every matchup they were in. Also, I never said anything to imply things were "great as is". Free agency isn't over yet and I am certain the Spurs will look for value plays. How can you say that the F.O overvalues culture & continuity when their way of doing things has resulted in arguably the most successful franchise in sports?

It was only 2 years ago that the Spurs did what was necessary to sign the # 1 available free agent. I'm not sure how that doesn't even register with you. They moved Tiago Splitter to create the necessary cap space. In addition, they jettisoned or allowed 6 additional players (including Marco Belineli, Corey Joseph & Aaron Baynes) from that roster to walk. The following season they traded Boris Diaw (an important piece in their Championship runs) to Utah in order to bring in Pau Gasol. How is that being content, complacent and sticking with the status quo?

Lastly - Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker were in their primes nearly 10+ years ago. I think its safe to say the organization didn't rely on those guys' talent alone to carry them to all those consecutive 50+ win seasons. Pieces were put around them and a system in place that would maximize their value. As a consequence of all the wins, the Spurs consistently drafted in poor positions. They had to find a way to get key pieces by being smart. I think the results speak for themselves. Every year, talking heads, analysts and a bunch of people in this forum write them off. Too old, time's up, never do anything exciting...blah blah blah...and they just keep winning.

BTW, who said they stood pat? We have no idea what they've tried to do. Maybe they tried to trade LA's sorry ass. They didn't have a chance to speak with Chris Paul & Indiana decided to give Paul George away. What other FA's available this year were better than what will be available next year?


SASAINT - Beating GS is unrealistic? Maybe so, but IMO the Spurs were structured to beat them and would have challenged them more than any other team. I'm not saying they would have won, but you tell me what other teams in the league had four consecutive games where they led GS by 20 points. The almighty Warriors, supposedly one of the best teams ever assembled, a team featuring four all-stars and the DPOY, were getting their asses kicked by KL and a roster featuring four players over 34 and six new additions to the "complacent" team.


SuperCam, I'm not sure I've seen any posts in this forum advocating that the Spurs stand pat. And please don't compare the Spurs to the hapless Rockets. WTF have they won in the last 20 plus years? Sure, they have big name players coming through their organization year after year but they don't win shit. Their GM acts like he's playing Fantasy basketball and yet it doesn't result in LOB trophies. Clutchfans wanted James Harden traded just as much as Spurs fans wanted LA gone. They're a gimmicky-ass organization and CP3 isn't going to help them go any further than they did this past year. But hey, who cares right? They've got a new toy to roll out and make everyone happy until the Spurs beat them again with a bunch of nobodies.

[therealtruth]

And yet media gives the 00-03 run all the credit to PATFO when it is painfully obvious it was all TD.

I bet you if they win 50+ again...the narrative would be so smart patfo when in reality they're getting carried by kawhi.


:lmao

Take no blame and get all the credit. Brilliant move by RC and POp to save their own assess.

Exactly. Making WCF was all about Kawhi's greatness. As the guys on Inside the NBA said, we know who's the best player in the WC. I think Kawhi set a record for being the only all-star on a 60 win team.

[daslicer]

Exactly. Making WCF was all about Kawhi's greatness. As the guys on Inside the NBA said, we know who's the best player in the WC. I think Kawhi set a record for being the only all-star on a 60 win team.

Tim Duncan won 60 games in '03 along with winning the title without any all-stars.

[tholdren]

Exactly. Making WCF was all about Kawhi's greatness. As the guys on Inside the NBA said, we know who's the best player in the WC. I think Kawhi set a record for being the only all-star on a 60 win team.

Stupid

[TheGreatYacht]

Stupid
^ thinks David Lee and Bertans contributed. Only them

[timtonymanu]

WCF is a great feat but lets put some context into the equation. The NBA and the West was watered down compared to other years. Houston was the only decent threat and Spurs struggled to get past Memphis.

So based on the results of beating Memphis & HOU in 6 games, that means everything is just great as is? Complacency with re-signing parts that dont move the needle will be the reason this team doesnt progress -- all while most other WC teams are doing everything they can to make gains on the Warriors.

Spurs standing pat and overpaying (overpaying due to context of crowded PG situation) to keep an expendable piece because of culture, while others are relentlessly trying to climb will be the reason other teams leap over the Spurs in the West the next 1-3 years.

Spurs should never be content or satisfied, but it seems to me they overvalue continuity and culture. It worked when they had 3 hall of famers in the prime of their career always steering the ship, but those days are long gone.

Damn truth fucking bombs

:cry buh buh PATFO
:cry WCF

[tholdren]

^ thinks David Lee and Bertans contributed. Only them

Thinks parker was worse than gasol^

[Spurtacular]

PATFO holding the organization hostage, tbh, by not trading away Parker. His contract holding up valuable resources.

[tholdren]

PATFO holding the organization hostage, tbh, by not trading away Parker. His contract holding up valuable resources.

Not this year

[MaNu4Tres]

1st round exit looming, plus having nothing to show for LA when he walks because cap space will be fools gold as the 18 FA class is terrible outside the top FAs that arent coming to SA.

The decline is coming fast.

Too bad they didnt trade LA for assets when they had the chance too last summer. Too bad they chose to get tied up into Gasol when they should have used the space last year on a younger/ versatile player or they should have absorbed a contract that had a pick attached.

[DPG21920]

1st round exit looming, plus having nothing to show for LA when he walks because cap space will be fools gold as the 18 FA class is terrible outside the top FAs that arent coming to SA.

The decline is coming fast.

Too bad they didnt trade LA for assets when they had the chance too last summer. Too bad they chose to get tied up into Gasol when they should have used the space last year on a younger/ versatile player or they should have absorbed a contract that had a pick attached.

Way too harsh. Could you be right? Sure. Is that likely? No.

What you are describing is what teams like PHI do. Spurs aren't eating bad deals for picks if they want to contend. That is not a fair knock at all IMO.

[MaNu4Tres]

Way too harsh. Could you be right? Sure. Is that likely? No.

What you are describing is what teams like PHI do. Spurs aren't eating bad deals for picks if they want to contend. That is not a fair knock at all IMO.

Never said a bad deal, it could just be expendable salary that's on a fair deal. We are talking about replacing a role player (Gasol) w/ another role player while getting an asset.

I think OKC made huge gains this summer. So did Houston. I'm pegging SA 4th-5th in West next season. If Spurs don't trade LA, I can see LA mail it in the last half of the season -- like he did in Portland.

[raybies]

SA if it brings the band back will be a 2nd seed barring any injuries. Continuity counts in this league and they won 60+ last year.

[TimDunkem]

Who the hell cares about 60 wins if we have almost no favorable matchups past the first round...

[raybies]

Who the hell cares about 60 wins if we have almost no favorable matchups past the first round...
Name a team then

[MaNu4Tres]

Name a team then

Warriors will likely be their 2nd round opponent. IF they make it there.

Every team in the West got better w/ OKC making the biggest leap and Houston making the 2nd biggest leap. The only teams that havent improved are the Spurs, Jazz and Clips to a lesser degree ( yes they lost Paul, but losing Crawford/Reddick were blessings in disguise, plus they received a solid haul for CP3 and got Gallo.

[TimDunkem]

OKC has been a perpetually bad matchup, Houston will be tougher with CP3 there eating up our guards as he always does, GSW are obvious. The rest are up in the air but I don't have a good feeling about some of the younger, talented teams. You can argue about it all you want but the Spurs aren't overwhelming favorites against any of the teams that matter.

[dabom]

1st round exit looming, plus having nothing to show for LA when he walks because cap space will be fools gold as the 18 FA class is terrible outside the top FAs that arent coming to SA.

The decline is coming fast.

Too bad they didnt trade LA for assets when they had the chance too last summer. Too bad they chose to get tied up into Gasol when they should have used the space last year on a younger/ versatile player or they should have absorbed a contract that had a pick attached.

50 bucks even. Deal. :lol

[raybies]

As of today
Warriors(1)
Spurs(2-3)
Thunder(2-4)
Houston(2-4)
Clippers(5-8)
Wolves(5-8)
Trail Blazers (6-7)
Jazz(7-9)
Nuggets(7-9)
Kings (7-9)

Not worried about the bottom 4 whatsoever. Reason I put the Spurs so high is because they've already done it last year. They are just building on what they already accomplished. Houston has a good chance of being two because in the regular season offense wins lots of games and Paul is very experienced but the frontcourt is weak and LMA feasts on Houston. Then you got Harden. Like he somehow got over his mental ineptitude in the playoffs that has plagued him since college... Make it a close series and he folds. As for OKC Kawhi pretty much can neutralize Paul George and it's basically trying to contain Westbrook. We have more dynamic scorers than OKC. All they have is Westbrook that can playmake and to a lesser extent George. Would love him trying to post up Kawhi. Their bench will get torched. We should be able to play Warriors in the WCF albeit a tougher road.

Kawhi is a champion. He's the only other star in the West outside of GS that is one. If he's healthy, we'll be fine. Look what he did this postseason. He's 26 and about to enter the beginning of his prime. We'll have continuity on our side. Last year we had a ton of turnover and still won 60+. What y'all think another year will bring. More people in the right spots.

[MaNu4Tres]

OKC has been a perpetually bad matchup, Houston will be tougher with CP3 there eating up our guards as he always does, GSW are obvious. The rest are up in the air but I don't have a good feeling about some of the younger, talented teams. You can argue about it all you want but the Spurs aren't overwhelming favorites against any of the teams that matter.

Thibs Bulls always gave the Spurs fits. I expect Twolves w/ Jimmy Butler/Taj integrated w/ KAT and Wiggins to do the same. They'll be in the playoffs. If they can figure their bench out the rest of this offseason, I hope they don't get the 5th seed tbh..

Most of the lottery teams have improved out West, that will only make the schedule tougher, meaning less wins at the end of the day.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs are fucked moving forward. Still no idea who can help Kawhi pick up the slack consistently night in and night out. PATFO had their worst offseason of the decade.

[TimDunkem]

The OKC frontline is going to eat LMAo and Gasoft alive.

[MaNu4Tres]

As of today
Warriors(1)
Spurs(2-3)
Thunder(2-4)
Houston(2-4)
Clippers(5-8)
Wolves(5-8)
Trail Blazers (6-7)
Jazz(7-9)
Nuggets(7-9)
Kings (7-9)

Not worried about the bottom 4 whatsoever. Reason I put the Spurs so high is because they've already done it last year. They are just building on what they already accomplished. Houston has a good chance of being two because in the regular season offense wins lots of games and Paul is very experienced but the frontcourt is weak and LMA feasts on Houston. Then you got Harden. Like he somehow got over his mental ineptitude in the playoffs that has plagued him since college... Make it a close series and he folds. As for OKC Kawhi pretty much can neutralize Paul George and it's basically trying to contain Westbrook. We have more dynamic scorers than OKC. All they have is Westbrook that can playmake and to a lesser extent George. Would love him trying to post up Kawhi. Their bench will get torched. We should be able to play Warriors in the WCF albeit a tougher road.

Kawhi is a champion. He's the only other star in the West outside of GS that is one. If he's healthy, we'll be fine. Look what he did this postseason. He's 26 and about to enter the beginning of his prime. We'll have continuity on our side. Last year we had a ton of turnover and still won 60+. What y'all think another year will bring. More people in the right spots.

Think you are overlooking what OKC has actually done. Same w/ Houston.

[TimDunkem]

Thibs Bulls always gave the Spurs fits. I expect Twolves w/ Jimmy Butler/Taj integrated w/ KAT and Wiggins to do the same. They'll be in the playoffs. If they can figure their bench out the rest of this offseason, I hope they don't get the 5th seed tbh..

Most of the lottery teams have improved out West, that will only make the schedule tougher, meaning less wins at the end of the day.I agree. The only reason I didn't list them was before is simply because they're young. Either way, I can see them giving the Spurs all kinds of trouble next year. Hell, the Wolves gave us a run for our money in a few games last year. :lol

[raybies]

The OKC frontline is going to eat LMAo and Gasoft alive.
maybe Adams but Kanter... Kanter the man who Donovan himself said we cant play him. Pick and roll to death. and i'm not worried about Patterson.

[TimDunkem]

Think you are overlooking what OKC has actually done. Same w/ Houston.
People have amnesia. They've given us trouble since they were bottom feeders. How are they suddenly going to be a good matchup with the Spurs only getting a year older? It's wishful thinking to assume we win that in any less than 6 games.

[raybies]

Think you are overlooking what OKC has actually done. Same w/ Houston.
think you are overrating teams that have never played a game

[TimDunkem]

maybe Adams but Kanter... Kanter the man who Donovan himself said we cant play him. Pick and roll to death. and i'm not worried about Patterson.
Kanter killed us in 2015. :lol Also, he only has to go up against bench bigs if he isn't starting. Name a big off the bench for us that is better than Kanter...

[TimDunkem]

think you are overrating teams that have never played a game
They only need to acclimate George and it's not exactly rocket science to do that...

[nyspurguy]

Come on PATFO... get us Rudy Gay and Javele McGee. BTW what's the word on McGee?

[raybies]

Kanter killed us in 2015. :lol Also, he only has to go up against bench bigs if he isn't starting. Name a big off the bench for us that is better than Kanter...
name a guard off our bench that cant light Kanter up

[MaNu4Tres]

think you are overrating teams that have never played a game

Think you are over valuing continuity -- especially when your second best player is already thinking about playing somewhere else.

[MaNu4Tres]

name a guard off our bench that cant light Kanter up

Pop won't exploit Kanter, he proved that in the 2016 playoffs already.

[TimDunkem]

name a guard off our bench that cant light Kanter up
How many opportunities are you going to have to exploit that matchup? And thanks for answering my question with a question.

[raybies]

They only need to acclimate George and it's not exactly rocket science to do that...
Yet still. When Westbrook goes to the bench, they get torched. Just play Kawhi when George comes off the bench and they will struggle to score.

[raybies]

Think you are over valuing continuity -- especially when your second best player is already thinking about playing somewhere else.
He's always thinking about elsewhere. Contract year and when has he tanked a season when he wanted to leave

[TimDunkem]

Yet still. When Westbrook goes to the bench, they get torched. Just play Kawhi when George comes off the bench and they will struggle to score.Who will torch them other than Kawhi?

[raybies]

How many opportunities are you going to have to exploit that matchup? And thanks for answering my question with a question.
Donovan already knows he has to sit Kanter when he's getting torched on the pick and roll. You do it enough as long as it doesn't interfere with the flow of the offense. You start early for easy buckets. He'll give the midrange J. Hit it and he's out.

[TimDunkem]

Donovan already knows he has to sit Kanter when he's getting torched on the pick and roll. You do it enough as long as it doesn't interfere with the flow of the offense. You start early for easy buckets. He'll give the midrange J. Hit it and he's out.
That sure worked in 2016.

[raybies]

Who will torch them other than Kawhi?
And again, I'm assuming the same team basically comes back, but the Spurs don't have a problem with their bench. Pop develops it all season, while OKC will play their stars big minutes to get wins. It could be anyone really. Patty, Simmons, Anderson, Bertans, Gasol, Aldridge. Just a deeper team.

[jbspurs]

Lee and Dedmon are gone, most of the quality free agents are signed. Who are we getting to replace the backup forward and center spots? Is Hanga coming to join Spurs this coming season?

[raybies]

That sure worked in 2016.
I don't even count 2016. The Spurs got screwed and you know it. The out of bounds push by Waiters. Pop punting it like he did the Warriors after Kawhi got injured. The refs were horrible that series. It was really bad luck.

[MaNu4Tres]

He's always thinking about elsewhere. Contract year and when has he tanked a season when he wanted to leave

He's not in his 20's anymore. Getting back to peak LMA are long gone, don't care how much he works this summer. If he's lucky, he maintains instead of declines even more.

We are being too optimistic though, the guy thinks he's already great enough as is -- its the coach and touches he needs. He probably spends this summer eating cheetos and watching the AS games he played in on youtube tbh..

[TimDunkem]

Depth sure worked in 2016.

And last time Patty got open shots against them, he clanked his way to 23%.
Simmons might not even return.
ANDERSON?! :lmao Against a speedy team like them? :lmao
Bertans is clanking shots in the SL; no guarantee he plays well against them.
Gasoft airballs layups at the basket; Adams is going to eat him for breakfast.
And if you're still pinning your hopes on Aldridge, be prepared to be severely disappointed.

[TimDunkem]

I don't even count 2016. The Spurs got screwed and you know it. The out of bounds push by Waiters. Pop punting it like he did the Warriors after Kawhi got injured. The refs were horrible that series. It was really bad luck.
There's always an excuse...

[raybies]

i mean i guess. We had 40 year old Duncan. Aldridge and the turd towers 2.0. Then we had Boban. Of course their frontline was better. But now I imagine Patterson will start next to Adams. You can even play Anderson as the starting four and in the playoffs you can play a guard.

[SAGirl]

I don't even count 2016. The Spurs got screwed and you know it. The out of bounds push by Waiters. Pop punting it like he did the Warriors after Kawhi got injured. The refs were horrible that series. It was really bad luck.

Do not forget Patty's fading act tbh.

[raybies]

Do not forget Patty's fading act tbh.
but of course. the 50 million dollar man himself

[MaNu4Tres]

Do not forget Patty's fading act tbh.

He was a great guy though despite that. Thats what counts the most.

[TheGreatYacht]

Do not forget Patty's fading act tbh.
That pesky Cameron Payne

[TimDunkem]

That pesky Cameron Payne
:lmao

[therealtruth]

I don't even count 2016. The Spurs got screwed and you know it. The out of bounds push by Waiters. Pop punting it like he did the Warriors after Kawhi got injured. The refs were horrible that series. It was really bad luck.

The Waiters push is sort of countered by the fact Ginobili did step out of bounds. However, it would have been a delay of game if called so not a turnover like if they called the offensive foul on Waiters.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

The Waiters push is sort of countered by the fact Ginobili did step out of bounds. However, it would have been a delay of game if called so not a turnover like if they called the offensive foul on Waiters.

The worst thing was in Game 5 when Adams tripped Green and the refs gave Durant 2 free throws to take the lead. Otherwise the Spurs would have had the lead and the ball with 50 secs left. That was frustrating.

[raybies]

The worst thing was in Game 5 when Adams tripped Green and the refs gave Durant 2 free throws to take the lead. Otherwise the Spurs would have had the lead and the ball with 50 secs left. That was frustrating.
Don't remind me. It was one of the worst officiated compilation in a minute

[Clipper Nation]

Do not forget Patty's fading act tbh.
:lol Porker's whole career has been a "fading act" and he got a $43 million loyalty contract in his 30s. And people are going to complain about MVPatty getting paid?

[DPG21920]

There's always an excuse...

I do find it funny how when the Spurs lose it's always legit, but when the Spurs win it's a mile long run of luck mostly that should not be taken seriously.

[raybies]

I do find it funny how when the Spurs lose it's always legit, but when the Spurs win it's a mile long run of luck mostly that should not be taken seriously.
Word. CP3's game winner, then the table starting the clock to early and botching our play. Probably would of lost anyway but still. Last years OKC ref mess. and this years ZaZa. Pop been losing it the last few years. Just bad luck is all. I believe we break though one of these years.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Pop just isn't as hungry as he used to be.

[TimDunkem]

I do find it funny how when the Spurs lose it's always legit, but when the Spurs win it's a mile long run of luck mostly that should not be taken seriously.
Well, I know I've not had a lot of nice things to say about PATFO as of late but I've never been part of the latter group, tbh. I can say that much. :lol

[Snaq O'Meal]

Pop just isn't as hungry as he used to be.

Perhaps it's an ego thing with Pop.

If he made adjustments and gave everything he had and still lost, it would look like he got out-coached by a rookie.

But if he just pounded the rock and did nothing except wave the white flag early and telling the media about planets and shit, he'll come away looking philosophical like the great Zen Master himself.

[TheDoctor]

SA if it brings the band back will be a 2nd seed barring any injuries. Continuity counts in this league and they won 60+ last year.
In that case # of wins are overrated if you don't get the 1st seed. The goal is to beat the Golden Showers no matter if 50 or 60 wins team.

[vy65]

It's funny how Spurs fans of old used to mock teams like the Suns and the Mavs for racking up regular season wins only to fail miserably during the playoffs. Now, Spurs fans seem to be content with a 60+ win regular season and playoff futility at the hands of the warriors.

[objective]

He was a great guy though despite that. Thats what counts the most.

Really great for the culture.

[TimDunkem]

It's funny how Spurs fans of old used to mock teams like the Suns and the Mavs for racking up regular season wins only to fail miserably during the playoffs. Now, Spurs fans seem to be content with a 60+ win regular season and playoff futility at the hands of the warriors.How low we've fallen...

[objective]

It's funny how Spurs fans of old used to mock teams like the Suns and the Mavs for racking up regular season wins only to fail miserably during the playoffs. Now, Spurs fans seem to be content with a 60+ win regular season and playoff futility at the hands of the warriors.

And those same content fans really dislike the other fans who want the team to succeed.

Contented fans call the other ones 'spoiled'

Because it's being spoiled if you don't like bad deals

[vy65]

And those same content fans really dislike the other fans who want the team to succeed.

Contented fans call the other ones 'spoiled'

Because it's being spoiled if you don't like bad deals

^^ or having higher expectations with an MVP candidate just entering his prime. "Spoiled fans" is a new disguise for the bigotry of low expectations.

[cjw]

The Waiters push is sort of countered by the fact Ginobili did step out of bounds. However, it would have been a delay of game if called so not a turnover like if they called the offensive foul on Waiters.

Aldridge got fouled on the tail end of that play. That's what I'm most bitter about.

[TD 21]

MaNu4Tres, objective, spursistan, TimDunkem, vy65, you guys better stop truth telling before you upset the legion of uppity apologists.

:cry 5 rings, 61 wins, 25 point lead in game 1 of the WCF; what more do you want? :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

It's funny how Spurs fans of old used to mock teams like the Suns and the Mavs for racking up regular season wins only to fail miserably during the playoffs. Now, Spurs fans seem to be content with a 60+ win regular season and playoff futility at the hands of the warriors.
Holy fucking shit. Biggest truth bomb in awhile...

[tonight...you]

It's funny how Spurs fans of old used to mock teams like the Suns and the Mavs for racking up regular season wins only to fail miserably during the playoffs. Now, Spurs fans seem to be content with a 60+ win regular season and playoff futility at the hands of the warriors.
You weren't a Spurs fan in the 90's, were you?

[tonight...you]

MaNu4Tres, objective, spursistan, TimDunkem, vy65, you guys better stop truth telling before you upset the legion of uppity apologists.

:cry 5 rings, 61 wins, 25 point lead in game 1 of the WCF; what more do you want? :cry
To be fans of the fucking Boston Celtics? How about the Knicks?
Maybe the Jazz? Hells yeah! The Jazz! Let's all root for the Brooklyn Nets and be fucking hap hap happy!

Does that make me an apologist?

Fuck that noise, we should be fawning over the Clippers and their success over the years. They gon' win real soon!

[vy65]

You weren't a Spurs fan in the 90's, were you?

I remember the likes of VDN and Cherokee Parks ...

[Dex]

It's funny how Spurs fans of old used to mock teams like the Suns and the Mavs for racking up regular season wins only to fail miserably during the playoffs. Now, Spurs fans seem to be content with a 60+ win regular season and playoff futility at the hands of the warriors.

How did we fail miserably?

We made it to the WCF and didn't get a fair chance to compete with a ridiculously stacked team after Kawhi went down.

Last season we took a very good Thunder team to 6 games in the Semis, and they went on to put the 73-win Warriors on the brink of elimination (and probably should have beat them).

It's not like we pulled a 2011.

Spoiled Spursfan is spoiled.

[TD 21]

To be fans of the fucking Boston Celtics? How about the Knicks?
Maybe the Jazz? Hells yeah! The Jazz! Let's all root for the Brooklyn Nets and be fucking hap hap happy!

Does that make me an apologist?

No, making excuses and having a fit every time someone criticizes the infallible, vaunted Spurs front office, does.

Forgot to add TheGreatYacht.

[tonight...you]

I remember the likes of VDN and Cherokee Parks ...
And these days make you upset? Jesus fucking Shit.
I remember Tark the Shark. I remember a recovering alcoholic taking over for him. I remember true ineptitude in the front office and a cheapskate car dealership owner running ish.
I remember a Dantoni-like coach that got fired for Pop and he never got an NBA job ever again.

You liked that shit?

[TimDunkem]

Pretty ironic that we've basically turned into the Mavs/Suns fanbase after trolling those guys for years for being content with cute regular seasons and playoff flame outs.

[tonight...you]

No, making excuses and having a fit every time someone criticizes the infallible, vaunted Spurs front office, does.

Forgot to add TheGreatYacht.
Okay, go back to the 90's baby. This brain-trust actually at least cares and thinks.
That shit was... shit.

[TimDunkem]

And these days make you upset? Jesus fucking Shit.
I remember Tark the Shark. I remember a recovering alcoholic taking over for him. I remember true ineptitude in the front office and a cheapskate car dealership owner running ish.
I remember a Dantoni-like coach that got fired for Pop and he never got an NBA job ever again.

You liked that shit?
Neither are very good if the formula the Spurs are using to win 60 games right now haven't gotten the team anywhere.

What's MOST upsetting is that NOW the FO is content with what we have when it couldn't be more clear that this team won't get it done...And that's excluding the Warriors...I'd feel much better if it seemed like this team had more favorable matchups than not this coming season. Unfortunately, that isn't the case as the West hasn't stood pat and had only gotten better pretty much top to bottom with the exception of the Spurs.

[Joseph Kony]

some of y'all are too much. there's numerous teams without even 1 title in their history. GS has assembled a team virtually unbeatable by any other current team in the league, and y'all are bitching because spurs arent in the finals every year? :lol

obviously we all want to win a title. i think some of you really underestimate what the spurs FO is trying to do. just because you don't hear their guys leaking every rumor to the press doesnt mean they arent doing anything. and realistically, what could they really do to put themselves on the level of GS aside from singing LeBron/Westbrook/etc? besides, free agents havent even been able to officially sign yet, there are over 100 free agents who havent even agreed to a deal yet. Spurfan needs to calm the fuck down and quit being spoiled and expecting instant gratification everytime you refresh ST....

and besides, anyone who thought the spurs were gonna flip their roster that just won 60, made the WCF, and was up 24 on the champs in the 3Q is either retarded or hasnt been following the team long tbh

[TimDunkem]

Okay, go back to the 90's baby. This brain-trust actually at least cares and thinks.
That shit was... shit.No. You see, the issue is that it doesn't seem like they're thinking very much right now. Again, last year was much better as we had more favorable matchups and the path to the Finals was conceivable. Not so much this year. I honestly wouldn't feel comfortable betting that the Spurs beat OKC or HOU in the playoffs, let alone GS...

[vy65]

How did we fail miserably?

We made it to the WCF and didn't get a fair chance to compete with a ridiculously stacked team after Kawhi went down.

Last season we took a very good Thunder team to 6 games in the Semis, and they went on to put the 73-win Warriors on the brink of elimination (and probably should have beat them).

It's not like we pulled a 2011.

Spoiled Spursfan is spoiled.

This is a retarded take. For one, injuries are part of the game. What unfairness did the Spurs suffer that isn't a part of the game? Given the historic GSW run, what proof do you have that Kawhi would have altered the outcome of the series?

I also don't get the logic behind "we pushed a team that pushed a team." There isn't an honorable mention trophy in the NBA. To the winner goes the spoils.

The spoiled argument is retarded. You can't squander a young MVP caliber's prime. The front office has to be relentless in both improving the team and improving its approach to the game. Culture and corporate knowledge only get you as far as talent, and this team is sorely lacking in talent. Pointing that out and calling the front office misguided for using an approach that is outdated because the big 3 is no more isn't "being spoiled." It's understanding we have a great opportunity with Kawhi and wanting to make the most of it.

People who say "you're spoiled" are probably content fucking fatties too. Makes sense with the SA connection and all ...

[vy65]

And these days make you upset? Jesus fucking Shit.
I remember Tark the Shark. I remember a recovering alcoholic taking over for him. I remember true ineptitude in the front office and a cheapskate car dealership owner running ish.
I remember a Dantoni-like coach that got fired for Pop and he never got an NBA job ever again.

You liked that shit?

Aside from Tark, no. This aside is truly fascinating (sincerely), but utterly irrelevant given the state of the team.

[TimDunkem]

some of y'all are too much. there's numerous teams without even 1 title in their history. GS has assembled a team virtually unbeatable by any other current team in the league, and y'all are bitching because spurs arent in the finals every year? :lol

obviously we all want to win a title. i think some of you really underestimate what the spurs FO is trying to do. just because you don't hear their guys leaking every rumor to the press doesnt mean they arent doing anything. and realistically, what could they really do to put themselves on the level of GS aside from singing LeBron/Westbrook/etc? besides, free agents havent even been able to officially sign yet, there are over 100 free agents who havent even agreed to a deal yet. Spurfan needs to calm the fuck down and quit being spoiled and expecting instant gratification everytime you refresh ST....

and besides, anyone who thought the spurs were gonna flip their roster that just won 60, made the WCF, and was up 24 on the champs in the 3Q is either retarded or hasnt been following the team long tbh
Again, it's not even about beating GS at this point. It's about doing ANYTHING to give the team a chance to win. No shit titles aren't guaranteed, but you're surely guaranteed not to win one if you're watching the rest of your conference pass you by.