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RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 09:51 AM
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/dday-allied-invasion.jpg?quality=85
"there was violence on both sides"
"They didn't have a permit"
"some of them weren't actual Nazis"
GMAFB.
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 09:53 AM
.. and he really, really meant it. :lmao
If you believe someone is a racist, no amount of public disavowing is going to change your mind.
Here's Hillary eulogizing her "friend and mentor", Robert Bird, a former KKK member who filibustered the Civil Rights Act for over 14 hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryweuBVJMEA
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 09:54 AM
Nazis = bad
How hard is that, really?
ducks
08-16-2017, 09:54 AM
democrats were the slave owners
ducks
08-16-2017, 09:55 AM
black live matter bad how hard is it
people predicted in 2000 this would happen because of what the black live matters were doing since 2000
Clipper Nation
08-16-2017, 09:56 AM
Nazis = bad
How hard is that, really?
It's not hard. But Trump decided now was the time to start playing "4D chess" and trying to score political points on the left. So what should have been an easy layup for him has turned into a disaster for his re-election prospects and the GOP.
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 09:56 AM
"there was violence on both sides"
According to Charlottesville police chief, Virginia police spox, and reporters on the ground, this is a true statement.
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 09:58 AM
https://timedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/05/dday-allied-invasion.jpg?quality=85
"there was violence on both sides"
"They didn't have a permit"
"some of them weren't actual Nazis"
GMAFB.
I'd like to see this meme stop.
I'm happy people stood up to the white supremacists in Charlottesville but comparing them to WW2 Vets is not a winning argument.
diego
08-16-2017, 09:58 AM
This is exactly why it's in the left's best interest just to let alt-right neckbeards role play out their little Nazi fantasies and ignore them when they congregate. The alt-right WANTS confrontation so they can spin it as an attack on their "free speech" and play the victim.
Still, I ain't shedding any tears when a Nazi gets punched in the fuckin' face. How many people's fathers and grandfathers here risked or lost their lives fighting Nazism?
i saw the vice footage and honestly, it almost looks like a reenactment, like those medieval fair type things, a caricature of some kind. the irony is too much- white "supremacists", crying about minorities (snowflakes!) displacing them, pretending they have no right to "free speech" when they parade about armed to the teeth in combat gear. Honestly cant say if its better or worse, but in any other country I can imagine this type of scenario, they beat each other to shit while the rest go to jail, here they dress up, chant lame shit, flop for victim points and fucking run over people "because i feared for my life". From afar it looks like Americans living in their basements watching terrorist news, series, movies, videogames cant go 2 blocks from their house without getting spooked.
you had a lot of good points spread out over several posts on the subject, but Id like to add that the equivalences made by chris in his graphic and are at the root of these white "supremacist" (cry babies) arguments are not even close to arguable. these people want to present murderers like mcveigh or roof as equals with people like mike brown and tamir rice, who regardless of how justified their shootings were (they werent, especially not tamir rice), never killed anybody. their list of grievances against liberals is nothing but "hurt fee fees". they want to act as if they are any other citizen group entitled to a public venue, then proceed to march around a university campus with torches and swastikas. "but but why are people misinterpreting our legitimate right to express ourselves!" If any other group did that they would meet the same reaction, likely much worse.
Chanting at an intersection to stop traffic, non violently allowing police to arrest you, in order to bring light to an injustice is a thousand times better spiritually, morally, STRATEGICALLY, than going to a university campus at night armed, with swastikas and torches, chanting nazi slogans, because my fee fees got hurt over a statue- that will really convince the people, win hearts and minds, about the importance of our history amirite? Im not a religious man Chris, but I pray for you.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 09:59 AM
Hillary
Jesus fucking jumped up Christ, you could be replaced by a bot.
"Trump did something bad"
"But Hillary..."
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 10:00 AM
Billy too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCVcV-sNj8
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:02 AM
I'd like to see this meme stop.
I'm happy people stood up to the white supremacists in Charlottesville but comparing them to WW2 Vets is not a winning argument.
I was aiming to compare Nazis to Nazis, because that seems to be lost in the rush to create some kind of moral equivalence.
Can you agree that Nazis in 1944 who worshipped Hitler, and Nazis in 2017 who worship Hitler are cut from the same cloth?
So weird that US troops who fought the Nazi's were largely straight white men -- the same demographic now allying with the Nazis.
The left is lauding the achievements of the demographic they lambast as privileged while the right has gone bat shit insane.
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:02 AM
If you believe someone is a racist, no amount of public disavowing is going to change your mind.
Here's Hillary eulogizing her "friend and mentor", Robert Bird, a former KKK member who filibustered the Civil Rights Act for over 14 hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryweuBVJMEA
Tell it.
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 10:03 AM
Mentor to Bill Clinton, J. William Fulbright, was a segregationist who signed the Southern Manifesto. Lolz
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:03 AM
Jesus fucking jumped up Christ, you could be replaced by a bot.
"Trump did something bad"
"But Hillary..."
That's how it goes. When you're back in the high life you'll use that exact same strategy.
Until then,,,we got the con.
Clipper Nation
08-16-2017, 10:03 AM
black live matter bad how hard is it
Nazis are a hate group with a history of starting world wars and committing genocide against racial/ethnic minorities and other vulnerable groups.
In contrast, BLM is a fucking hashtag that has attracted some violent and/or bigoted followers.
The fact that you're actually trying to act like they're equivalent is beyond idiotic.
Wow I finally got around to watching Trump's speech in full just now. Its a lot worse than reading it.
He actually chose to blame the other side as the worse of the lot. As oposed to the one who killed someone.
So grotesque. Almost made me puke.
Will Hunting
08-16-2017, 10:04 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHV_WIoXsAA3P0-.jpg.
http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-ss-nazi-german
:lmao George Soros was barely a fucking teenager during World War II, you're a special kind of retard if you think that's actually George Soros.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:04 AM
Billy too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCVcV-sNj8
Whataboutism is a propaganda technique formerly used by the Soviet Union in its dealings with the Western world, and subsequently used as a form of propaganda in post-Soviet Russia. When criticisms were leveled at the Soviet Union, the Soviet response would be "What about..." followed by an event in the Western world.[6][7][8]
This propaganda technique was used by the Soviets to distract from their own shortcomings.
It functions as a diversionary tactic to distract the opponent from their original criticism.[37][38][39] Thus, the technique is used to avoid directly refuting or disproving the opponent's initial argument.[40][41] The tactic is an attempt at moral relativism,[2][42][8] and a form of false moral equivalence.[22][43][44]
hater
08-16-2017, 10:05 AM
If you believe someone is a racist, no amount of public disavowing is going to change your mind.
Here's Hillary eulogizing her "friend and mentor", Robert Bird, a former KKK member who filibustered the Civil Rights Act for over 14 hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryweuBVJMEA
Damn brutal
We dodged a bullet with Shitler losing
Wheeww!
Dodged a big one
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:06 AM
So he stopped kissing Putin's ass long enough to act like a racist? :lol
No. He reaffirmed yesterday what he'd said on Saturday. Twixt Monday & Tuesday he got the message from his 60 million base.
Like DD said: white people put him in that Presidency not radical leftists.
Trump needs to be prompted on that fact from time to time.
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 10:06 AM
Soros born in 1930
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:07 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DHV_WIoXsAA3P0-.jpg.
A viral image purportedly showing a young George Soros in a Nazi SS uniform actually depicts an Auschwitz guard named Oskar Groening.
Wow, indeed. As hoaxes go, this one was neither plausible nor hard to disprove. Given that Soros — born in 1930 — was only nine years old when World War II began and 14 when the war ended in Europe in 1945, he couldn’t have joined the SS, whose minimum age requirement was 17, even if he had wanted to. Moreover, Soros would never have met the SS requirement for pure “Aryan” heritage. Quite to the contrary, Soros grew to adolescence as a persecuted Jew in Nazi-occupied Budapest.
http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-ss-nazi-germany/
Thread's "A" game.
:lmao
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:08 AM
http://www.snopes.com/george-soros-ss-nazi-german
:lmao George Soros was barely a fucking teenager during World War II, you're a special kind of retard if you think that's actually George Soros.
You know that, and now I know that, but, not everyone knows that.
It'll be good for awhile yet.
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:09 AM
Nazis are a hate group with a history of starting world wars and committing genocide against racial/ethnic minorities and other vulnerable groups.
In contrast, BLM is a fucking hashtag that has attracted some violent and/or bigoted followers.
The fact that you're actually trying to act like they're equivalent is beyond idiotic.
I'll just bet it is.
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 10:09 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hoXThCb8EZA
hater
08-16-2017, 10:09 AM
The funniest thing IMO is Pence being MIA in all of this :lmao
Youd think retarded liberals would be on him as he will most likely be the next president :lmao
Theyre too dumb and too obsessed with Trump
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:11 AM
You know that, and now I know that, but, not everyone knows that.
It'll be good for awhile yet.
23X14HS4gLk
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:11 AM
The funniest thing IMO is Pence being MIA in all of this :lmao
Youd think retarded liberals would be on him as he will most likely be the next president :lmao
Theyre too dumb and too obsessed with Trump
True, and they want to preserve Pence in as much innocence as they can in case he becomes President. The sooner we can get back to business as usual the better for these fucks. If Pence is battered & beaten it will take that much longer to get back to "normalcy."
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 10:12 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVlmfGfEWDc
hater
08-16-2017, 10:13 AM
True, and they want to preserve Pence in as much innocence as they can in case he becomes President. The sooner we can get back to business as usual the better for these fucks. If Pence is battered & beaten it will take that much longer to get back to "normalcy."
Amen
Trump is the only one in DC trying to unmask the American farce
Funny thing is Pence will be even more brutal on race, gays, healthcare, pussyhatters, etc as he will do the bidding of the Republican neocon complex
Will Hunting
08-16-2017, 10:13 AM
You know that, and now I know that, but, not everyone knows that.
It'll be good for awhile yet.
There's no way around the fact it's fake news and you fell for it.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:13 AM
[Thread is] a special kind of retard [because he thought a concentration camp guard was] actually George Soros.
Wicked pissah.
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:14 AM
Amen
Trump is the only one in DC trying to unmask the American farce
Funny thing is Pence will be even more brutal on race, gays, healthcare, etc as he will do the bidding of the Republican neocon complex
I doubt that, hater. He'll soldier to left of center. He ain't going to fuck up his chance to go down in the annals of American History. I'd bet my life on that.
We'll be back on the tried & true within a year, maybe less.
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:15 AM
There's no way around the fact it's fake news and you fell for it.
& gladly.
hater
08-16-2017, 10:16 AM
I doubt that, hater. He'll soldier to left of center. He ain't going to fuck up his chance to go down in the annals of American History. I'd bet my life on that.
We'll be back on the tried & true within a year, maybe less.
Yeah but tried and true = the american farce
Its actually more harmful than anhthing Trump would do IMo
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:16 AM
black live matter bad how hard is it
people predicted in 2000 this would happen because of what the black live matters were doing since 2000
Because anyone being upset over unarmed people being shot by police is a bad thing in your book?
You would have been first in line at the coolaid line in Jonestown.
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 10:17 AM
So weird that US troops who fought the Nazi's were largely straight white men -- the same demographic now allying with the Nazis.
The left is lauding the achievements of the demographic they lambast as privileged while the right has gone bat shit insane.
Antifa and alt-right are very small factions of the left and right. But, the media portrays alt-right as being much larger.
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:20 AM
Yeah but tried and true = the american farce
Its actually more harmful than anhthing Trump would do IMo
Sad, but true. But, that is where this is heading, hater. Enjoy this while it lasts. That's what I'm doing. Marinating in it for as long as I can. Committing it to memory.
It's difficult---if not impossible to have & to hold such a [sea change] as (Trump). This change was not cyclical. It was structural.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:20 AM
Thank you President Trump for your honesty & courage to tell the truth about #Charlottesville & condemn the leftist terrorists in BLM/Antifa https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/897554574663442432 …
DarrinS is now letting David Duke tell him what to think.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:21 AM
Trump's statement was fair and down to earth. #Charlottesville could have been peaceful, if police did its job.
How long before Thread starts parroting this?
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:22 AM
DarrinS is now letting David Duke tell him what to think.
Duke spoke the truthPERIOD
Thread
08-16-2017, 10:22 AM
How long before Thread starts parroting this?
Less than a minute.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:24 AM
The president’s breathtaking statements inflamed and stunned people across Twitter. “Blaming ‘both sides’ for #Charlottesville?! No,” wrote Republican representative Ileana Ros-Lehtinen. “Back to relativism when dealing with KKK, Nazi sympathizers, white supremacists? Just no.”
Some Republicans get it.
Some.
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 10:24 AM
So weird that US troops who fought the Nazi's were largely straight white men
... only because America was, is largely, demographically straight white men, not because of any politics.
white male supremacist, lady-killer misogynist neo-Nazis of today have nothing in common, politically, with white male WWII soldiers.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:26 AM
Duke spoke the truthPERIOD
Going to argue about getting creationism in the schools next, to "teach the controversy"? Going for the flat earth theory? There are youtubes on it.
:lmao
... only because America was, is largely, demographically straight white men, not because of any politics.
white male supremacist, lady-killer misogynist neo-Nazis of today have nothing in common, politically, with white male WWII soldiers.
What's not weird is buttons taking my post out of context
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 10:26 AM
DarrinS is now letting David Duke tell him what to think.
Seriously, fuck these people. Human garbage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P54sP0Nlngg
You nailed it, RG. I'm a Nazi sympathizer.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 10:26 AM
Antifa and alt-right are very small factions of the left and right. But, the media portrays alt-right as being much larger.Sorry Darrin, the alt-right has outsized influence on Trump because of Bannon. You're being extra disingenuous today with your trending YouTube spam.
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 10:28 AM
I was aiming to compare Nazis to Nazis, because that seems to be lost in the rush to create some kind of moral equivalence.
Can you agree that Nazis in 1944 who worshipped Hitler, and Nazis in 2017 who worship Hitler are cut from the same cloth?
Maybe. I'm hesitant to make a direct comparison to people who dumped dead gassed bodies into open graves, but I'm sure there are some in that Charlottesville crowd who have that potential.
Mainly I see a bunch of privileged white douchebags who run screaming for mommy at the site of any physical conflict. " :cry more milk! :cry "
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:32 AM
So weird that US troops who fought the Nazi's were largely straight white men -- the same demographic now allying with the Nazis.
The left is lauding the achievements of the demographic they lambast as privileged while the right has gone bat shit insane.
So defeating the Nazi's was an achievement of "largely straight white men"?
You are really going to go there?
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 10:33 AM
Who was responsible for the violence in Charlottesville? Here's what witnesses say
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-charlottesville-witnesses-20170815-story.html#nws=mcnewsletter
btw, LA Times won't be publishing articles like this if Repug FCC approves rightwing oligarchist Sinclair buying Tribune group.
LAtimes and other Sinclair media will be publishing articles written by Sinclair corporate.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:35 AM
Maybe. I'm hesitant to make a direct comparison to people who dumped dead gassed bodies into open graves, but I'm sure there are some in that Charlottesville crowd who have that potential.
No few of them have stated explicitly that is exactly what they would do, given the chance. Such sentiments are not uncommon.
May be bluster, but it seems logical to take them at their word, out of caution.
So defeating the Nazi's was an achievement of "largely straight white men"?
You are really going to go there?
American troops who fought the Nazis were predominately straight white men. Are you honestly disputing that?
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:38 AM
You nailed it, RG. I'm a Nazi sympathizer.
You think they are garbage, yet you repeat their talking points.
I'm sorry, but that makes you a useful idiot.
You are exactly the kind of weak-minded simpleton they are shooting for in order to legitimize themselves.
If you don't like the comparison, start thinking for yourself.
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 10:39 AM
No few of them have stated explicitly that is exactly what they would do, given the chance. Such sentiments are not uncommon.
I think we disagree on the definition of "uncommon."
Antifa and alt-right are very small factions of the left and right. But, the media portrays alt-right as being much larger.
Perhaps is all to do with Trump himself and the utter lack of action in his part. As a matter of fact, let me check myself. Trump has actually seemingly chosen a side.
Can you imagine if Obama had come out and sided with antifa?
Remember the outrage when he supported what BLM was doing as a cause? I do and that was tame in comparison given that the BLM movement started out as a legit issue before it got perverted and corrupted.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:41 AM
American troops who fought the Nazis were predominately straight white men. Are you honestly disputing that?
Nope.
But in order to make that argument, you sort of glossed over why that was. Complex topic, and your rush to draw moral equivalence between left and right in this case, opens your flank to criticism.
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 10:41 AM
The case against free speech for fascists
Free speech absolutism also elides the issue of race.
Neo-Nazis may be expressing hated views, but they are still white, and law enforcement, the courts, and the state will treat them accordingly.
In Ferguson in 2014, mostly black anti-racist protestors were met with an overwhelmingly militarized response; 155 people were arrested (https://www.bustle.com/p/this-difference-between-charlottesville-ferguson-could-be-part-of-a-sickening-double-standard-76288).
In Charlottesville, by contrast, despite numerous incidents of violence, police arrested only four people.
https://qz.com/1053957/charlottesville-neo-nazis-and-the-case-against-free-speech-for-fascists/?mc_cid=70d578520a&mc_eid=47e367557b
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 10:44 AM
I think we disagree on the definition of "uncommon."
Feel free to provide a working definition.
The core of violence and brutality is easy to prove. I wouldn't say a majority would, but there are enough that say shit like that, to be a sizable minority.
I have seen/heard it first hand.
Fabbs
08-16-2017, 10:47 AM
The case against free speech for fascists
Free speech absolutism also elides the issue of race.
Neo-Nazis may be expressing hated views, but they are still white, and law enforcement, the courts, and the state will treat them accordingly.
In Ferguson in 2014, mostly black anti-racist protestors were met with an overwhelmingly militarized response; 155 people were arrested (https://www.bustle.com/p/this-difference-between-charlottesville-ferguson-could-be-part-of-a-sickening-double-standard-76288).
In Charlottesville, by contrast, despite numerous incidents of violence, police arrested only four people.
https://qz.com/1053957/charlottesville-neo-nazis-and-the-case-against-free-speech-for-fascists/?mc_cid=70d578520a&mc_eid=47e367557b
:lol extremist false equivalence. How long did Ferguson go on? How many buildings burned? How many out of town protest posers that in reality came to Ferguson for the sole purpose of anarchy.
Keep trill.
Nope.
But in order to make that argument, you sort of glossed over why that was. Complex topic, and your rush to draw moral equivalence between left and right in this case, opens your flank to criticism.
No. You're being dishonest and putting words in my mouth. I said troops.
You're uncomfortable being confronted with the fact that you're lauding the accomplishments of white men a la the picture you posted in this thread. I never said your siding with white men when it's expedient for you was at all equivalent with what the right is doing.
Next time, don't rush to manufacture a squabble with me because I'll make you look like an ass, again.
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 10:50 AM
You think they are garbage, yet you repeat their talking points.
I'm sorry, but that makes you a useful idiot.
You are exactly the kind of weak-minded simpleton they are shooting for in order to legitimize themselves.
If you don't like the comparison, start thinking for yourself.
What talking points have I repeated?
And it's a little hypocritical of you, since you started today with the "fresh" meme of Antifa storming Normandy. :lol
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 10:51 AM
What talking points have I repeated?:lmao
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 10:51 AM
Feel free to provide a working definition.
It's fundamentally subjective. The worst I've seen from this group want to deport Jews and minorities and create a white state.
Certainly they're capable of murder under the guise of self defense, but the German Nazis didn't even have to make that caveat.
My point is these assholes are evil enough without claiming Charlottesville is the new Normandy. I'm not picking on you, this is a comparison I'm seeing all over the place and it's not doing us any favors.
Monostradamus
08-16-2017, 10:52 AM
Shillary
*ding
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 10:57 AM
Baltimore removes 4 confederate monuments overnight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvLHFV3o4U0
Quadzilla99
08-16-2017, 10:58 AM
If you believe someone is a racist, no amount of public disavowing is going to change your mind.
Here's Hillary eulogizing her "friend and mentor", Robert Bird, a former KKK member who filibustered the Civil Rights Act for over 14 hours.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ryweuBVJMEA
Billy too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejCVcV-sNj8
Is that before or after the Democrats elected a black guy twice
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:00 AM
Baltimore removes 4 confederate monuments overnight.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvLHFV3o4U0Good. Move them out just like the Colts.
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 11:01 AM
Is that before or after the Democrats elected a black guy twice
I'm not trying to say an entire political party of made up of racists.
I'm just pointing out that the media never demanded that the Clintons to DISAVOW the KKK.
Seems hypocritical to me.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:05 AM
I'm not trying to say an entire political party of made up of racists.
I'm just pointing out that the media never demanded that the Clintons to DISAVOW the KKK.
Seems hypocritical to me.Nah, Byrd had already apologized for being in the KKK and disavowed them.
Trump is still playing footsie with the alt-right.
I'm not trying to say an entire political party of made up of racists.
I'm just pointing out that the media never demanded that the Clintons to DISAVOW the KKK.
Seems hypocritical to me.
Because it wasn't an issue?
The only reason why people are demanding Trump do so is because Trump himself made it an issue. Just look at the past 2 years. The guy's campaign was built on bigotry and hatred.
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:07 AM
Nah, Byrd had already apologized for being in the KKK and disavowed them.
Trump is still playing footsie with the alt-right.
I'll just bet he did.
baseline bum
08-16-2017, 11:10 AM
democrats were the slave owners
And you want to honor them for it
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 11:11 AM
Nah, Byrd had already apologized for being in the KKK and disavowed them.
I'm sure he apologized for filibustering the Civil Rights Act for 14 hours.
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 11:12 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/890322959084257282/JecZI5js_bigger.jpgJim Acosta
✔@Acosta (https://twitter.com/Acosta)
A GOP source says WH issuing messaging memo tonight urging surrogates to say both sides acted inappropriately in Charlottesville.
7:25 PM - Aug 15, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/897615359129374721)
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As usual, the Repugs and ST assholes can't defend their indefensibles so they LIE that the other side is just as bad, false equivalence, what-about-ism.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:12 AM
I'll just bet he did.He did.
What is the matter with Trump supporters these days? Pushing fake Nazi photos and denying black letter history. Desperate times.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:13 AM
I'm sure he apologized for filibustering the Civil Rights Act for 14 hours.So you're just disappointed he didn't become a Republican, Darrin?
897450575184355328
What kind of bad ass backwards world do we live in when a leader from another country (Germany of all places) is the one telling us to condem hatred and evil.
A sad day when we're being taken to school by a country who gave birth to nazism.
baseline bum
08-16-2017, 11:15 AM
True, and they want to preserve Pence in as much innocence as they can in case he becomes President. The sooner we can get back to business as usual the better for these fucks. If Pence is battered & beaten it will take that much longer to get back to "normalcy."
That's definitely what Priebus was doing when he kept leaking all of Trump's shit to the Washington Post and NY Times.
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 11:22 AM
Pence is embroiled in the Flynn fiasco, as in knowing and covering up Flynn's Russian/Turkish stuff.
Flynn is finished, and it could wound Pence.
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:42 AM
That's definitely what Priebus was doing when he kept leaking all of Trump's shit to the Washington Post and NY Times.
There is no proof on any leakers. That's why there is leakers. Assurance that they'll get paid big bucks and assurance they'll not get caught.
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:43 AM
He did.
What is the matter with Trump supporters these days? Pushing fake Nazi photos and denying black letter history. Desperate times.
What did I tell you about asking me queries, Pav's. Pound those questions up your mother's ass.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 11:43 AM
I'm not trying to say an entire political party of made up of racists.
I'm just pointing out that the media never demanded that the Clintons to DISAVOW the KKK.
Seems hypocritical to me.
Because both Clintons had a history of criticizing racism in general, and if asked, would likely have easily, and quickly done so. It wouldn't have taken them 2 days to "get the facts".
Neither had people who were arguably white-supremecists in their staff.
The Clintons never created the atmosphere that even hinted that they condoned this segment of the population.
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08-16-2017, 11:45 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/890322959084257282/JecZI5js_bigger.jpgJim Acosta
✔@Acosta (https://twitter.com/Acosta)
A GOP source says WH issuing messaging memo tonight urging surrogates to say both sides acted inappropriately in Charlottesville.
7:25 PM - Aug 15, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/897615359129374721)
============
As usual, the Repugs and ST assholes can't defend their indefensibles so they LIE that the other side is just as bad, false equivalence, what-about-ism.
Trump has 'em snortin' full time now.
The kicker? They're actually, with a straight face telling him they'll be no agenda until he relents.
tee, hee.
And the double kicker? Wouldn't surprise me at all if he didn't buy it.:rolleyes
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:45 AM
What did I tell you about asking me queries, Pav's. Pound those questions up your mother's ass.Jesus, cry me another river, bitch.
hater
08-16-2017, 11:45 AM
Nah, Byrd had already apologized for being in the KKK and disavowed them.
Trump is still playing footsie with the alt-right.
:lmao
"my bad, I was a member of the KKK
I love da brothas now...."
"he's alright now guys. Clintons are fine supporting this fine gentleman"
:lmao
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:46 AM
Jesus, cry me another river, bitch.
Then don't ask me questions, asshole.
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:47 AM
:lmao
"my bad, I was a member of the KKK
I love da brothas now...."
"he's alright now guys. Clintons are fine supporting this fine gentleman"
:lmao
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 11:47 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/890322959084257282/JecZI5js_bigger.jpgJim Acosta
✔@Acosta (https://twitter.com/Acosta)
A GOP source says WH issuing messaging memo tonight urging surrogates to say both sides acted inappropriately in Charlottesville.
7:25 PM - Aug 15, 2017 (https://twitter.com/Acosta/status/897615359129374721)
============
As usual, the Repugs and ST assholes can't defend their indefensibles so they LIE that the other side is just as bad, false equivalence, what-about-ism.
http://cdn.flipboard.com/flipboard.com/47af555d2c9a8ba634b93366f1d0be387ef87d34/large.jpg
Both sides man. The black guy on the ground probably deserved it.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:47 AM
Then don't ask me questions, asshole.Are you going to cry if I do, bitch?
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 11:48 AM
Trump: I disavow David Duke
Clinton: my friend and mentor, Robert KKK Byrd
hater
08-16-2017, 11:50 AM
Trump: I disavow David Duke
Clinton: my friend and mentor, Robert KKK Byrd
Apparently Byrd quit the KKK. so no harm was ever done. He does not want to kill all brothas anymore.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:50 AM
Trump: I disavow David Duke
Clinton: my friend and mentor, Robert KKK Byrd
What talking points have I repeated?
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:50 AM
http://cdn.flipboard.com/flipboard.com/47af555d2c9a8ba634b93366f1d0be387ef87d34/large.jpg
Both sides man. The black guy on the ground probably deserved it.
& I saw white get their asses kicked as well. As you did.
- "Both sides"
- President Trump
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:50 AM
Apparently Byrd quit the KKK. so no harm was ever done. He does not want to kill all brothas anymore.
Tell it.
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 11:51 AM
Trump: I disavow David Duke
Clinton: my friend and mentor, Robert KKK Byrd
You're just going to keep on going with this stupid comparison aren't you?
http://animalia-life.club/data_images/monkey/monkey2.jpg
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:51 AM
Are you going to cry if I do, bitch?
No. I'm just going to tell you to pound that question up your mother's ass.
AaronY
08-16-2017, 11:51 AM
Imagine the kind of deflecting Darrin would be doing if he actually liked Trump :dizzy
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:52 AM
Apparently Byrd quit the KKK. so no harm was ever done. He does not want to kill all brothas anymore.Did Byrd murder someone? Go ahead and post a link. I'd love to read all about it. It would totes change my mind about Democrats and Trump.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:52 AM
No. I'm just going to tell you to pound that question up your mother's ass.Why would you be such a bitch and do that?
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 11:53 AM
I'll just bet he did.
For the 2003–2004 session, the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP)[64] rated Byrd's voting record as being 100% in line with the N.A.A.C.P.'s position on the thirty-three Senate bills they evaluated.
Beginning in the 1970s, Byrd explicitly renounced his earlier views favoring racial segregation.[20][57] Byrd said that he regretted filibustering and voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964[58] and would change it if he had the opportunity. Byrd also said that his views changed dramatically after his teenage grandson was killed in a 1982 traffic accident, which put him in a deep emotional valley. "The death of my grandson caused me to stop and think," said Byrd, adding he came to realize that African-Americans love their children as much as he does his.[59] During debate in 1983 over the passage of the law creating the Martin Luther King Jr. Day holiday, which some conservatives opposed, Byrd grasped the symbolism of the day and its significance to his legacy, telling members of his staff "I'm the only one in the Senate who must vote for this bill"
Robert Byrd had a 40 year record of disavowing the KKK and white supremicists, and acting against their politics, and did so right up to his death.
Fail some more. Please.
hater
08-16-2017, 11:53 AM
Did Byrd murder someone? Go ahead and post a link. I'd love to read all about it. It would totes change my mind about Democrats and Trump.
who knows maybe he did.
but because he was never proven to kill someone while at the KKK he's alright?
:lmao
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:54 AM
Why would you be such a bitch and do that?
Take that question and pound it up your mother's ass.
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:54 AM
who knows maybe he did.
but because he was never proven to kill someone while at the KKK he's alright?
:lmao
Tell it.
Clipper Nation
08-16-2017, 11:55 AM
Nah, Byrd had already apologized for being in the KKK and disavowed them.
Well, gee, since he apologized, I guess that makes it okay then. :rolleyes
Byrd was a piece of shit who was still using the N-word in public as recently as 2001. He was on record telling people to never join the KKK only because it would make it difficult to have a career in politics down the road. The thought that being in a hate group is vile and morally wrong didn't occur to him, I guess.
Democrats would be wise to stop trying to defend Byrd. He was a piece of crap, and we all know the "but, but, he apologized!" card would never work if he was a Republican.
hater
08-16-2017, 11:55 AM
Meanwhile the future president of the UsA still silent and touring south america with warmongering rhetoric:
Pence won't take questions from press in Chile
http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/pence-questions-press-chile-49250289
Mike Pence warns Venezuela/North Korea, 'The sword stands ready'
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 11:56 AM
Tear down?
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8387/8543073569_3c93d3733c_b.jpg
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:56 AM
Well, gee, since he apologized, I guess that makes it okay then. :rolleyes
Byrd was a piece of shit who was still using the N-word in public as recently as 2001. He was on record telling people to never join the KKK only because it would make it difficult to have a career in politics down the road. The thought that being in a hate group is vile and morally wrong didn't occur to him, I guess.
Democrats would be wise to stop trying to defend Byrd. He was a piece of crap, and we all know the "but, but, he apologized!" card would never work if he was a Republican.
Tell it, you big beautiful thing, you.
hater
08-16-2017, 11:56 AM
wonder howcome CNN/MSNBC/or even Fox haven't said a peep about Pence.
they are probably grooming the public at him being the next Pres. Hypocrisy
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 11:57 AM
Trump: I disavow David Duke
Clinton: my friend and mentor, Robert KKK Byrd
Beginning in the 1970s, Byrd explicitly renounced his earlier views favoring racial segregation.[20][57] Byrd said that he regretted filibustering and voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964[58] and would change it if he had the opportunity. Byrd also said that his views changed dramatically after his teenage grandson was killed in a 1982 traffic accident, which put him in a deep emotional valley. "The death of my grandson caused me to stop and think," said Byrd, adding he came to realize that African-Americans love their children as much as he does his.[59] During debate in 1983 over the passage of the law creating the Martin Luther King Jr. Day holiday, which some conservatives opposed, Byrd grasped the symbolism of the day and its significance to his legacy, telling members of his staff "I'm the only one in the Senate who must vote for this bill"
Since you want to keep being a moron:
Q: What has been your biggest mistake and your biggest success?
A: Well, it's easy to state what has been my biggest mistake. The greatest mistake I ever made was joining the Ku Klux Klan. And I've said that many times. But one cannot erase what he has done. He can only change his ways and his thoughts. That was an albatross around my neck that I will always wear. You will read it in my obituary that I was a member of the Ku Klux Klan.
Byrd was a better man than you will ever be, Darrin.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:57 AM
who knows maybe he did.
but because he was never proven to kill someone while at the KKK he's alright?
:lmaoYou brought up murder and now you're backing down?
hater takes another L :lmao
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08-16-2017, 11:57 AM
Tear down?
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8387/8543073569_3c93d3733c_b.jpg
Damn right. Spray paint it, piss on it, shit on it, then in the middle of the nite when nobody is looking,,,tear it up & tear it down.
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 11:57 AM
False moral equivalency is not a bug of Trumpism. It’s a feature.
The Post’s Editorial Board (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-nation-can-only-weep/2017/08/15/d9bd9a10-8202-11e7-902a-2a9f2d808496_story.html?utm_term=.07cf180847bc):
“The nation can only weep. ...
That car in Charlottesville did not kill or wound just the 20 bodies it struck.
It damaged the nation.
Mr. Trump not only failed to help the country heal;
he made the wound wider and deeper.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/08/16/daily-202-false-moral-equivalency-is-not-a-bug-of-trumpism-it-s-a-feature/5993b25930fb0433811d6965/?undefined=&utm_term=.d1a36c178e22&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
hater
08-16-2017, 11:58 AM
Well, gee, since he apologized, I guess that makes it okay then. :rolleyes
Byrd was a piece of shit who was still using the N-word in public as recently as 2001. He was on record telling people to never join the KKK only because it would make it difficult to have a career in politics down the road. The thought that being in a hate group is vile and morally wrong didn't occur to him, I guess.
Democrats would be wise to stop trying to defend Byrd. He was a piece of crap, and we all know the "but, but, he apologized!" card would never work if he was a Republican.
:lmao chumpdumper getting shit pushed in as usual
Chris
08-16-2017, 11:58 AM
sMaYWp2cF74&t
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 11:58 AM
wonder howcome CNN/MSNBC/or even Fox haven't said a peep about Pence.
they are probably grooming the public at him being the next Pres. HypocrisyPence isn't in front of cameras shitting all over himself like Trump is.
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:58 AM
False moral equivalency is not a bug of Trumpism. It’s a feature.
The Post’s Editorial Board (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-nation-can-only-weep/2017/08/15/d9bd9a10-8202-11e7-902a-2a9f2d808496_story.html?utm_term=.07cf180847bc):
“The nation can only weep. ...
That car in Charlottesville did not kill or wound just the 20 bodies it struck.
It damaged the nation.
Mr. Trump not only failed to help the country heal;
he made the wound wider and deeper.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/powerpost/paloma/daily-202/2017/08/16/daily-202-false-moral-equivalency-is-not-a-bug-of-trumpism-it-s-a-feature/5993b25930fb0433811d6965/?undefined=&utm_term=.d1a36c178e22&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1
- "There are consequences to elections."
- Zero
How does it feel now?
tee, hee.
Thread
08-16-2017, 11:59 AM
Pence isn't in front of cameras shitting all over himself like Trump is.
Trump straightened it out yesterday. Got right with white.
White put him into that Presidency. Not radical leftists.
hater
08-16-2017, 12:00 PM
Pence isn't in front of cameras shitting all over himself like Trump is.
another massive failure:
"Vice President Mike Pence's isn't expected to take questions from reporters after meeting with Chile's president — even though Pence's public schedule had listed a "joint press conference" with Michelle Bachelet (bah-cheh-LET')."
:lmao
you are in a sad state
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:00 PM
Tear down?
https://c1.staticflickr.com/9/8387/8543073569_3c93d3733c_b.jpg
What talking points have I repeated?
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 12:01 PM
So weird that Darrin only watches CNN yet he's like a Fox News Current Hits record on repeat.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:01 PM
another massive failure:
"Vice President Mike Pence's isn't expected to take questions from reporters after meeting with Chile's president — even though Pence's public schedule had listed a "joint press conference" with Michelle Bachelet (bah-cheh-LET')."
:lmao
you are in a sad stateYou just proved me right.
hater takes another L :lmao
AaronY
08-16-2017, 12:03 PM
another massive failure:
"Vice President Mike Pence's isn't expected to take questions from reporters after meeting with Chile's president — even though Pence's public schedule had listed a "joint press conference" with Michelle Bachelet (bah-cheh-LET')."
:lmao
you are in a sad state
It says he's not going to talk to reporters
hater
08-16-2017, 12:03 PM
:lmao CNN just mentioned Pence
"I stand with the president and by those words."
crucify him! cruficy him!
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:04 PM
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-0/s480x480/20799059_1757911604236319_508844595903955619_n.jpg ?oh=1d129511cc50a693a2b6f4176260ba30&oe=5A315E18
Trump: I disavow David Duke
Clinton: my friend and mentor, Robert KKK Byrd
Do you know all the facts or did you just found this out today and are parroting it and equating it?
David duke was and still is a KKK member.
Robert Byrd was one, apologized, regreted it and ammended his ways----50 or so years ago.
But keep parroting shit you just found out about today and look like an idiot per par. :lol
Oh and BTW, guy was a respected congressmen from both sides.
But Hillary though..:cry
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 12:04 PM
Well, gee, since he apologized, I guess that makes it okay then. :rolleyes
Byrd was a piece of shit who was still using the N-word in public as recently as 2001. He was on record telling people to never join the KKK only because it would make it difficult to have a career in politics down the road. The thought that being in a hate group is vile and morally wrong didn't occur to him, I guess.
Democrats would be wise to stop trying to defend Byrd. He was a piece of crap, and we all know the "but, but, he apologized!" card would never work if he was a Republican.
Because Republicans tend to vote for things that fuck over black people, such as restricting voting rights.
Byrd's actions matched his words, as did his voting record.
He did a bit more than simply, and repeatedly apologize.
hater
08-16-2017, 12:05 PM
:lmao CNN analysts saying Pence's message is very different from Trump :lol
"I stand by the president and stand by those words"
:lol
CNN reporter: "his message is very different from the presidents"
Wolf: "yeah he didn't echo the president yesterday"
Pence: "I stand by the president and by those words"
:lol
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:06 PM
It says he's not going to talk to reporters:lmao I think administration communications in public might be at a premium while they do damage control.
Even if he did talk, dude isn't going to shit on himself like Trump. All Pence has to do is speak in complete sentences and say "Nazis bad."
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 12:06 PM
Here's an idea... How about we talk about Robert Byrd when there are people actually calling for his statue to be removed? Same with Jefferson, George Washington and the :lol fucking Pyramids.
Conservatives need to figure out what their position is. Are SJW's offended by too many things or not enough things?
hater
08-16-2017, 12:07 PM
:lmao I think administration communications in public might be at a premium while they do damage control.
Even if he did talk, dude isn't going to shit on himself like Trump. All Pence has to do is speak in complete sentences and say "Nazis bad."
he didn't mention nazis :lol
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 12:07 PM
Trump: I disavow David Duke
Clinton: my friend and mentor, Robert KKK Byrd
Congratulations though, on deflecting from Trumps failures.
That is exactly what the people you say you don't like want you to do and say.
hater
08-16-2017, 12:08 PM
damn 10 seconds by CNN on Pence
"I stand by the president and by those words"
back to 24hours of Trump :lol
holy shit blatant
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 12:09 PM
As always you rightwingnutjob over-simplify to the point of willful ignorance, and silly, groundless polemics
"Robert Byrd evolved—he changed for the good.
He apologized (http://archives.cnn.com/2001/ALLPOLITICS/03/04/byrd.slur/) for his intolerant past and declared that he had been wrong. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z1pkiOJJdgc)
Although he voted against Justice Marshall for the Supreme Court seat,
years later he also voted with 45 other Democrats against the candidacy (http://www.nytimes.com/1991/10/16/us/thomas-confirmation-senate-confirms-thomas-52-48-ending-week-bitter-battle-time.html) of conservative Clarence Thomas. (http://www.thegrio.com/opinion/clarence-thomas-wifes-tea-party-ties-are-supremely-disturbing.php)
Byrd did not like Thomas’s assertion that he was the victim of a “high-tech lynching of uppity blacks,” and found the introduction of race into the Senate proceedings offensive.
Most of all, he believed Anita Hill’s allegations against Thomas.
Hindsight is 20-20 for those who were misguided enough to support Clarence Thomas, but looking back nearly 20 years, the senator had a very good point.
Sen. Byrd displayed a mix of conservative and liberal (http://liberalvideo.com/) points of view in his later years.
Remarkably, though, his politics resonated with the African-American community and came out on the right side of issues that are of concern to black voters.
Byrd enjoyed a perfect 100 percent rating (http://www.naacp.org/programs/bureau-dc/report_card/108th_Congressional_Report_Card.pdf) from the NAACP. (http://www.naacp.org/)
He proposed $10 million to fund a Martin Luther King (http://thegrio.com/2013/08/28/mlks-children-remember-their-father/) National Memorial in Washington, DC.
The senator received a 67 percent rating (http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=53359&type=category&category=13) from the American Civil Liberties Union, (http://www.aclu.org/) and
a 65 percent rating (http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_category.php?can_id=53359&type=category&category=30) from the League of Conservation Voters (http://www.lcv.org/) on environmental issues.
He forcefully and eloquently voiced his opposition to the war in Iraq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxWfawiufK0) under President George W. Bush, and
voted against the confirmation of Obama’s controversial treasury secretary Timothy Geithner.
We should condemn the man’s racist past,
but honor his recent accomplishments.
And we should respect his ability and willingness to transform his mind (http://www.slate.com/id/2075662) and move beyond his circumstances and upbringing.
Robert Byrd did not die as a leader of the Klan,
because he had buried that racist past a long time ago.
However, he did leave us as a leader for all Americans.
So, let us give him a proper goodbye."
http://thegrio.com/2010/06/28/the-evolution-of-robert-byrds-racial-politics/
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:09 PM
uh oh that logic thingy
http://thefederalistpapers.integratedmarket.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/soldiers-monuments.jpg
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:10 PM
he didn't mention nazis :lolHey, hater just said something happened with no way to verify it!
Since you've made up shit before, I'll wait.
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:11 PM
Time to move on!
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20799489_1578416132189360_8107102135677629501_n.jp g?oh=1bb30bb786e65a8dc73a70065dba03a1&oe=59EC5C61
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 12:11 PM
Do you know all the facts or did you just found this out today and are parroting it and equating it?
David duke was and still is a KKK member.
Robert Byrd was one, apologized, regreted it and ammended his ways----50 or so years ago.
But keep parroting shit you just found out about today and look like an idiot per par. :lol
Oh and BTW, guy was a respected congressmen from both sides.
But Hillary though..:cry
Lol, yeah, just learned about Robert Byrd today :lol. And 1964 was long after he quit the KKK.
And let me know when Trump calls Duke his friend and mentor.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:12 PM
uh oh that logic thingy
http://thefederalistpapers.integratedmarket.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/soldiers-monuments.jpgThey were logically traitors.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:13 PM
Lol, yeah, just learned about Robert Byrd today :lol. And 1964 was long after he quit the KKK.
And let me know when Trump calls Duke his friend and mentor.
What talking points have I repeated?
hater
08-16-2017, 12:13 PM
Hey, hater just said something happened with no way to verify it!
Since you've made up shit before, I'll wait.
another massive fail by Chumpdumper.
check this thread, the video is there :lol
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270064&p=9117955#post9117955
he didn't mention nazis :lol
You're so shitty at parsing words.
He said I stand by those comments (The ones he made a few days later about condenming the attack) and then he also said he stood with the president which is standard and teh reason why Pence has no future political future. His career stops and dies with Trump.
He mentions the KKK, Neo nazis and white supremacy here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nrcn0gnpAN8
Clipper Nation
08-16-2017, 12:14 PM
Because Republicans tend to vote for things that fuck over black people, such as restricting voting rights.
Byrd's actions matched his words, as did his voting record.
He did a bit more than simply, and repeatedly apologize.
Byrd's record included plenty of policies that fucked over black people. Are we supposed to believe he was helping black people by filibustering the Civil Rights Act and routinely voting against civil rights legislation?
He only started trying to clean up his image once it became clear that the Civil Rights Movement had won the day. Even then, the real Byrd still slipped out during interviews.
This is the man you're defending:
In a March 4, 2001 interview with Tony Snow (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Snow), Byrd said of race relations:
"There are white n****rs. I've seen a lot of white n****rs in my time, if you want to use that word."
In 1997, he told an interviewer he would encourage young people to become involved in politics but also warned, "Be sure you avoid the Ku Klux Klan. Don't get that albatross (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albatross_(metaphor)) around your neck. Once you've made that mistake, you inhibit your operations in the political arena."
(No mention of how it's a vile, disgusting hate group... only the political angle mattered to him, apparently.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 12:16 PM
Here's an idea... How about we talk about Robert Byrd when there are people actually calling for his statue to be removed? Same with Jefferson, George Washington and the :lol fucking Pyramids.
Conservatives need to figure out what their position is. Are SJW's offended by too many things or not enough things?
Not enough signatures, but almost.
https://www.change.org/p/west-virginia-governor-to-remove-the-name-of-the-late-senator-and-ku-klux-klan-member-robert-byrd-from-the-public-space-road-ways-and-government-buildings-including-schools
Thread
08-16-2017, 12:18 PM
:lmao CNN just mentioned Pence
"I stand with the president and by those words."
crucify him! cruficy him!
Lol, yeah, just learned about Robert Byrd today :lol. And 1964 was long after he quit the KKK.
And let me know when Trump calls Duke his friend and mentor.
For someone that was up to date on all things Robert Byrd you sure was late on bringing him up.
Was that like your ace in the hole? Waiting for the right moment to strike? :lmao
Also LOL acting like someone cant be a memtor because they used to hold terrible and backwards views.
There are plenty of people who were in the KKK or were racist that are now decent people. People are allow to take advice and consider anyone as a mentor.
By your pathetic logic, I guess people aren't supposed to be mentor by ex convicts and the like. :lol
Thread
08-16-2017, 12:19 PM
uh oh that logic thingy
http://thefederalistpapers.integratedmarket.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/soldiers-monuments.jpg
Chris with the goods.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:21 PM
Not enough signatures, but almost.
https://www.change.org/p/west-virginia-governor-to-remove-the-name-of-the-late-senator-and-ku-klux-klan-member-robert-byrd-from-the-public-space-road-ways-and-government-buildings-including-schoolsSo Darrin is going to deflect with the dead guy for the rest of the day. :lmao
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 12:22 PM
Not enough signatures, but almost.
https://www.change.org/p/west-virginia-governor-to-remove-the-name-of-the-late-senator-and-ku-klux-klan-member-robert-byrd-from-the-public-space-road-ways-and-government-buildings-including-schools
Google the name of the guy who started that petition and let me know what you find and what you might assume based on your findings.
leemajors
08-16-2017, 12:24 PM
Trump: I disavow David Duke
Clinton: my friend and mentor, Robert KKK Byrd
what about Cohn?
AaronY
08-16-2017, 12:25 PM
Lol maze of moral relativism
AaronY
08-16-2017, 12:26 PM
Who were the other two people who died in Charlottesville? Didn't they say three people died?
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:27 PM
what about Cohn?Well that's totally different because Cohn isn't on my list of talking points.
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 12:27 PM
Who were the other two people who died in Charlottesville? Didn't they say three people died?
Cops in a helicopter crash
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:27 PM
"Planned Parenthood has slaughtered more black innocents in 20 years than the Confederacy did throughout its entire existence. I think the PP logo should be removed from the outside of buildings. It's a hateful, perpetual reminder of white-on-black violence and I'm offended by it."
-Milo
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:27 PM
Who were the other two people who died in Charlottesville? Didn't they say three people died?State police in a helicopter crash.
AaronY
08-16-2017, 12:28 PM
Lol Milo he have any more cool pedophilia takes lately?
Thread
08-16-2017, 12:28 PM
Cops in a helicopter crash
They don't really count. They were indifferent flying around in the sky. No equivalency there.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:28 PM
"Planned Parenthood has slaughtered more black innocents in 20 years than the Confederacy did throughout its entire existence. I think the PP logo should be removed from the outside of buildings. It's a hateful, perpetual reminder of white-on-black violence and I'm offended by it."
-MiloWho's Milo? Is that the ghey dude who supports pedophilia? You're throwing in your lot with him?
Lol Milo he have any more cool pedophilia takes lately?
Ask TSA if you can find him from his hiding spot.
He's an expert on all things pedo.
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:30 PM
ghey dude
Homophobic: Check
AaronY
08-16-2017, 12:30 PM
Add Milo fan to Chris's exhaustive list of embarrassing biographical facts. Right up there with vaccine truther and 9/11 truther. Plus that Netflix boycott hes got going cuz it's too liberal
AaronY
08-16-2017, 12:31 PM
Lol Netflix boycott
140 million subscribers -1 now. I'm sure theyre quaking in their boots
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:32 PM
:cry I can't stand what he is saying, lets attack his lifestyle :cry
Libs love to make it personal when the facts don't support their narratives :tu
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:32 PM
Homophobic: CheckSaying he's ghey is a statement of fact with a humorous misspelling. I am definitely phobic of pedophilia advocates. You are quite OK with them.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:34 PM
:cry I can't stand what he is saying, lets attack his lifestyle :cry
Libs love to make it personal when the facts don't support their narratives :tuYou know, I will attack Milo's support of pedophilia without reservation or shame.
I don't know why you have a problem with my doing that. Maybe you can explain why you think my attacking Milo's support of pedophilia is wrong.
Go ahead.
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:36 PM
Saying he's ghey is a statement of fact with a humorous misspelling. I am definitely phobic of pedophilia advocates. You are quite OK with them.
He was a victim of pedophilia. Are you blaming him because he was a victim too or because he said something that was both ridiculously vain and stupid? Is he on the list forever now?
:cry I can't stand what he is saying, lets attack his lifestyle :cry
Libs love to make it personal when the facts don't support their narratives :tu
But you love it when AaronY is shitting on djohn and his anti Trump posts.
You're going to have to decide whether you like him as a partisan or bipartisan because it doesn't seem like you like it when he's being an equal opportunist.
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:37 PM
But you love it when AaronY is shitting on djohn and his anti Trump posts.
You're going to have to decide whether you like him as a partisan or bipartisan because it doesn't seem like you like it when he's being an equal opportunist.
Aaron is coming around to the right side. It happens when you start getting close to 30.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:39 PM
He was a victim of pedophilia. Are you blaming him because he was a victim too or because he said something that was both ridiculously vain and stupid? Is he on the list forever now?I blame him because he advocated pedophilia. If he refutes that and goes out of his way to work against pedophilia, I could change my mind. That's how things work.
As it stands now, you have cast your lot with a pedophilia advocate. That's on you.
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:40 PM
I blame him because he advocated pedophilia. If he refutes that and goes out of his way to work against pedophilia, I could change my mind. That's how things work.
As it stands now, you have cast your lot with a pedophilia advocate. That's on you.
He refuted it and apologized :tu
Chris
08-16-2017, 12:40 PM
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20746151_1508339305893041_1794715376664165977_o.jp g?oh=120d4a8f0c5d7cb0fe626d2dd3edf8a0&oe=5A1D9734
Thread
08-16-2017, 12:41 PM
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20746151_1508339305893041_1794715376664165977_o.jp g?oh=120d4a8f0c5d7cb0fe626d2dd3edf8a0&oe=5A1D9734
Chris
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 12:45 PM
Still triggered by Kathy Griffin... smh
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:49 PM
He refuted it and apologized :tuWhat's he doing to fight pedophilia?
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 12:52 PM
Still triggered by Kathy Griffin... smhYes, far-left terror is the biggest problem facing the US, especially when a right wing terrorist killed one and injured 19 by running them over with a car on camera.
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 12:59 PM
Trump’s Two Big Business Councils Disband Amid Uproar Over Charlottesville
The president took credit for dissolving the groups. :lol
The White House’s two advisory councils of top business executives disbanded on Wednesday amid intense public blowback against President Donald Trump’s response to the deadly attack by an accused white supremacist in Charlottesville, Virginia.
The move came two days after executives began resigning from the dwindling American Manufacturing Council and hours after the billionaire financier who headed the separate Strategic and Policy Forum hosted a call with the 15 members of that panel.
Trump took credit on Twitter for dissolving the councils in order to alleviate pressure on the executives. :lol
Donald J. Trump ✔ realDonaldTrump
Rather than putting pressure on the businesspeople of the Manufacturing Council & Strategy & Policy Forum, I am ending both. Thank you all!
12:14 PM - Aug 16, 2017
The tone of Trump’s announcement was a sharp departure from his previous, combative statements lashing out at the executives who had resigned in protest of his refusal to quickly and pointedly condemn white supremacists.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-business-council-charlottesville_us_59947976e4b0acc593e4757f?utm_me dium=email&utm_campaign=__BREAKING__%20Trumps%20Other%20Big%2 0Business%20Council%20Disbands%20Amid%20Uproar%20O ver%20Charlottesville%202017-08-16T171541544Z&utm_content=__BREAKING__%20Trumps%20Other%20Big%20 Business%20Council%20Disbands%20Amid%20Uproar%20Ov er%20Charlottesville%202017-08-16T171541544Z+CID_c1926ea71110a67850a17d5031f2ca95&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Read%20More&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__BREAKING__%20Trumps%20Other %20Big%20Business%20Council%20Disbands%20Amid%20Up roar%20Over%20Charlottesville%202017-08-16T171541544Z
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 12:59 PM
^that's significant, tbh
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:00 PM
What's he doing to fight pedophilia?
Probably more than you :lol
Clipper Nation
08-16-2017, 01:01 PM
:cry I can't stand what he is saying, lets attack his lifestyle :cry
Libs love to make it personal when the facts don't support their narratives :tu
:lol Your narrative on Charlottesville hasn't been supported by a single fact yet.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:02 PM
Probably more than you :lolI never advocated it, much less publicly advocated it. He did.
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 01:13 PM
“Barack Obama is to blame”: 13 Alabama conservatives on Charlottesville
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/sJbsdxMoUtmbl2WNOkaChYhAP6E=/0x0:4032x3024/1220x813/filters:focal(1694x1190:2338x1834):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56199245/IMG_1573.0.jpeg
"Obama set racial relationships in the nation back 100 years"
Ann Eubank, 68, of Rainy Day Patriots Tea Party
"The climate that's created, in part by the last presidential administration ... encouraged conflict"
Dawn Ray, homemaker
“I think Barack Obama is to blame”
Kerrick Whisenant, 41, construction executive
"We know antifa was there, and they have a history of violence"
Cindy Skarda, 61, “dog whisperess”
“From the scrum it was difficult to determine who was who”
Rep. Mo Brooks, US representative and Republican Senate candidate
“I understand that the guy who drove the car was a Democrat”
Don Beach, 68
Dispatches from Alabama radio
Wild unverified claims that Black Lives Matter attacked car that killed protester
Caller Tony
Host Jim Moore
There’s no doubt these two groups clashing would advance the ideology of McAuliffe.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/15/16148144/alabama-conservatives-on-charlottesville
:lol
Here's an idea... How about we talk about Robert Byrd when there are people actually calling for his statue to be removed? Same with Jefferson, George Washington and the :lol fucking Pyramids.
Conservatives need to figure out what their position is. Are SJW's offended by too many things or not enough things?
This. You can't cry about micro-aggressions and then act like the sky is falling when someone wants to remove a statue you probably didn't even know existed until it became an agenda item for the others side.
I mean, who the fuck really cares about statues?
“Barack Obama is to blame”: 13 Alabama conservatives on Charlottesville
https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/sJbsdxMoUtmbl2WNOkaChYhAP6E=/0x0:4032x3024/1220x813/filters:focal(1694x1190:2338x1834):format(webp)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_image/image/56199245/IMG_1573.0.jpeg
"Obama set racial relationships in the nation back 100 years"
Ann Eubank, 68, of Rainy Day Patriots Tea Party
"The climate that's created, in part by the last presidential administration ... encouraged conflict"
Dawn Ray, homemaker
“I think Barack Obama is to blame”
Kerrick Whisenant, 41, construction executive
"We know antifa was there, and they have a history of violence"
Cindy Skarda, 61, “dog whisperess”
“From the scrum it was difficult to determine who was who”
Rep. Mo Brooks, US representative and Republican Senate candidate
“I understand that the guy who drove the car was a Democrat”
Don Beach, 68
Dispatches from Alabama radio
Wild unverified claims that Black Lives Matter attacked car that killed protester
Caller Tony
Host Jim Moore
There’s no doubt these two groups clashing would advance the ideology of McAuliffe.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/8/15/16148144/alabama-conservatives-on-charlottesville
:lol
At least they're learning a few new words and name.
It used to be all Hillary's fault before.
Thread
08-16-2017, 01:16 PM
This. You can't cry about micro-aggressions and then act like the sky is falling when someone wants to remove a statue you probably didn't even know existed until it became an agenda item for the others side.
I mean, who the fuck really cares about statues?
The same people who didn't give a fuck last month, but, this month are tearing them down.
So, ALL statues should be vetted. If the subject has erred the statue should come down. Washington & Jefferson enslaved human beings. Their statues should come down.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 01:16 PM
Sure the Empire is evil. But why aren't we talking about the violent Rebel Alliance?
uh oh that logic thingy
http://thefederalistpapers.integratedmarket.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/soldiers-monuments.jpg
Time to move on!
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20799489_1578416132189360_8107102135677629501_n.jp g?oh=1bb30bb786e65a8dc73a70065dba03a1&oe=59EC5C61
Not sure if one of these is supposed to be troll bait, but srsly?
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 01:17 PM
Sure the cancer was aggressive. but the chemotherapy was also aggressive. There was aggression on both sides.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 01:17 PM
There is blame on both sides. Anne Frank was rude and a loud houseguest.
The same people who didn't give a fuck last month, but, this month are tearing them down.
So, ALL statues should be vetted. If the subject has erred the statue should come down. Washington & Jefferson enslaved human beings. Their statues should come down.
Why do you care about statues?
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 01:18 PM
Not sure if one of these is supposed to be troll bait, but srsly?
They are. Chris is a lonely person. This is the attention he gets.
RG's breakdown is pretty solid. Cancer and Star Wars in the same thread is really great work.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:18 PM
Time to move on!
https://scontent-sea1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20799489_1578416132189360_8107102135677629501_n.jp g?oh=1bb30bb786e65a8dc73a70065dba03a1&oe=59EC5C61Great, so you don't mind about getting rid of all the signs and symbols of the confederacy. That was easy.
They are. Chris is a lonely person. This is the attention he gets.
I mean, I've seen some stupid shit on here, but I don't think I've ever seen someone cross-meme themselves two posts apart.
Thread
08-16-2017, 01:21 PM
Why do you care about statues?
Because they tore down "my" statues on supposed grounds. Ipso facto:::all statues should be torn down if that subject has erred. Like Washington, Jefferson, Byrd. All statues should be examined for cause by say a "death" panel. Say like 3 guys. Look at the record. Take a vote. Leave it be, or, tear it up & down.
Same on foreign lands. They have no problem foisting around in our shit. So we should foist in their shit. Those Pyramids should come down, ASAP. We'll even bid on the dismantling of it.
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:21 PM
Not sure if one of these is supposed to be troll bait, but srsly?
What part don't you agree with?
Thread
08-16-2017, 01:23 PM
They are. Chris is a lonely person. This is the attention he gets.
He used to be lonely. Now we're a tag team like the Fabulous Kangaroos.
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:23 PM
They are. Chris is a lonely person. This is the attention he gets.
I mean, I've seen some stupid shit on here, but I don't think I've ever seen someone cross-meme themselves two posts apart.
Typical low energy hoopla. I'll put you over there with the rest of the trolls then.
Because they tore down "my" statues on supposed grounds. Ipso facto:::all statues should be torn down if that subject has erred. Like Washington, Jefferson, Byrd. All statues should be examined for cause by say a "death" panel. Say like 3 guys. Look at the record. Take a vote. Leave it be, or, tear it up & down.
Same on foreign lands. They have no problem foisting around in our shit. So we should foist in their shit. Those Pyramids should come down, ASAP. We'll even bid on the dismantling of it.
:cry muh statues :cry
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 01:23 PM
What part don't you agree with?
Which of those two DO you agree with?
It can't be both.
Idiot.
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:23 PM
He used to be lonely. Now we're a tag team like the Fabulous Kangaroos.
CHARGE!!!
What part don't you agree with?
Those memes contradicted one another
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 01:24 PM
No. You're being dishonest and putting words in my mouth. I said troops.
You're uncomfortable being confronted with the fact that you're lauding the accomplishments of white men a la the picture you posted in this thread. I never said your siding with white men when it's expedient for you was at all equivalent with what the right is doing.
Next time, don't rush to manufacture a squabble with me because I'll make you look like an ass, again.
Meh. There is a vast difference between dishonesty and not being 100% carefully precise.
You don't like me and I think you are an evil, disgusting human being.
You are uncomfortable with me being able to prove that, so you manufacture things to be pissy about.
Piss away.
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:25 PM
Those memes contradicted one another
Explain.
Meh. There is a vast difference between dishonesty and not being 100% carefully precise.
You don't like me and I think you are an evil, disgusting human being.
You are uncomfortable with me being able to prove that, so you manufacture things to be pissy about.
Piss away.
So boiled down: you tried to manufacture a controversy, got called out on it, and have to walk away with your tail between your legs ...
Go feign some more outrage ...
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:26 PM
Which of those two DO you agree with?
It can't be both.
Idiot.
Those memes contradicted one anotherI don't think he actually reads them. He just has to post them to fill a quota.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:26 PM
Explain.:lmao
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:27 PM
^So nothing...?
Monostradamus
08-16-2017, 01:27 PM
Because they tore down "my" statues on supposed grounds. Ipso facto:::all statues should be torn down if that subject has erred. Like Washington, Jefferson, Byrd. All statues should be examined for cause by say a "death" panel. Say like 3 guys. Look at the record. Take a vote. Leave it be, or, tear it up & down.
Same on foreign lands. They have no problem foisting around in our shit. So we should foist in their shit. Those Pyramids should come down, ASAP. We'll even bid on the dismantling of it.
Dude, you're from fucking Ohio. Confederate statues aren't "yours" by any stretch.
Explain.
First meme decries the plight of civil "veterans" whose gravestones are being removed
Second meme decries those who live in the past and tells us to move on.
Either we should honor the memories of confederate veterans by keeping their headstones as monuments -- or -- we move on and stop living in the past. Like spurminator said, it's one or the other, but it can't be both.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:28 PM
^So nothing...?
Those memes contradicted one another
Thread
08-16-2017, 01:30 PM
Dude, you're from fucking Ohio. Confederate statues aren't "yours" by any stretch.
Just open the fuckin' phone lines, you turdhound, you.
I don't think he actually reads them. He just has to post them to fill a quota.
Understated nuance was that they were two posts apart tbh
Monostradamus
08-16-2017, 01:32 PM
Just open the fuckin' phone lines, you turdhound, you.
https://wordsmith.org/words/images/carpetbagger_large.jpg
djohn2oo8
08-16-2017, 01:32 PM
897885690821840898
The council disbanded. Not trump.
Clipper Nation
08-16-2017, 01:33 PM
Explain.
Your first meme was about a 59-year-old law and an 88-year-old law that both pertained to people who fought in an 156-year-old war.
Your second meme was about moving on from the past and living in the present.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:33 PM
Understated nuance was that they were two posts apart tbhWe'll have to see if he even understands the contradiction, much less acknowledge it.
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 01:34 PM
Wasn't sure which thread to put this in. lol
897826482394980353
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:35 PM
Wasn't sure which thread to put this in. lol
897826482394980353I think that means Trump is doing awesome, right?
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:35 PM
First meme decries the plight of civil "veterans" whose gravestones are being removed
Second meme decries those who live in the past and tells us to move on.
Either we should honor the memories of confederate veterans by keeping their headstones as monuments -- or -- we move on and stop living in the past. Like spurminator said, it's one or the other, but it can't be both.
2nd meme was about collective inherited guilt for something that happened in the past. Absolutely no correlation with statues :lol You guys are terrific at spinning shit I will admit.
Spurminator
08-16-2017, 01:36 PM
Anyone who can get Nazis and Russians to work together has to be doing something right.
2nd meme was about collective inherited guilt for something that happened in the past. Absolutely no correlation with statues :lol You guys are terrific at spinning shit I will admit.
Your first meme was about a 59-year-old law and an 88-year-old law that both pertained to people who fought in an 156-year-old war.
Your second meme was about moving on from the past and living in the present.
WW:lol
Clipper Nation
08-16-2017, 01:37 PM
2nd meme was about collective inherited guilt for something that happened in the past. Absolutely no correlation with statues :lol You guys are terrific at spinning shit I will admit.
"We can't move forward if people want to keep living in the past."
"But, but, these laws from 1958 and 1929 say this about a war from 1861!"
:lol Sure, no contradiction there. It's all just spin.
boutons_deux
08-16-2017, 01:38 PM
https://www.facebook.com/OccupyDemocrats/videos/1656971074395940/
2nd meme was about collective inherited guilt for something that happened in the past. Absolutely no correlation with statues :lol You guys are terrific at spinning shit I will admit.
I am one of the most anti-collective/white guilt posters here. But you can't say let's move on from the past while wanting to keep monuments to said past. I get the statues are of people you like, but you cannot consistently say stop living in the past while keeping monuments to said past.
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:42 PM
"We can't move forward if people want to keep living in the past."
"But, but, these laws from 1958 and 1929 say this about a war from 1861!"
:lol Sure, no contradiction there. It's all just spin.
Keep looking for contradictions by comparing independent thoughts. Seems like a waste of time to me. :lol If you feel like it gives you a victory, then more power to you :lol
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 01:44 PM
Sure the Empire is evil. But why aren't we talking about the violent Rebel Alliance?
Sure the cancer was aggressive. but the chemotherapy was also aggressive. There was aggression on both sides.
There is blame on both sides. Anne Frank was rude and a loud houseguest.
So far, you've compared the likes of Antifa to the soldiers on D-day, the rebel alliance, chemotherapy, and Anne Frank. mmkay
We all agree with Indiana Jones when it comes to Nazis.
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:45 PM
But you can't say
I can say whatever I damn well please.
I get the statues are of people you like
Keep projecting to enhance your argument. It is amusing to me.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:46 PM
Keep looking for contradictions by comparing independent thoughts.Um, that's precisely how one finds contradictions.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 01:47 PM
So boiled down: you tried to manufacture a controversy, got called out on it, and have to walk away with your tail between your legs ...
Go feign some more outrage ...
:lmao
Keep trying, kid. Fail harder, please.
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:47 PM
So far, you've compared the likes of Antifa to the soldiers on D-day, the rebel alliance, chemotherapy, and Anne Frank. mmkay
We all agree with Indiana Jones when it comes to Nazis.So far you've talked about the Clintons and Byrd.
We all agree you've done a lot of work deflecting from Trump.
First meme decries the plight of civil "veterans" whose gravestones are being removed
Second meme decries those who live in the past and tells us to move on.
Either we should honor the memories of confederate veterans by keeping their headstones as monuments -- or -- we move on and stop living in the past. Like spurminator said, it's one or the other, but it can't be both.
Your first meme was about a 59-year-old law and an 88-year-old law that both pertained to people who fought in an 156-year-old war.
Your second meme was about moving on from the past and living in the present.
Wow LOL Chris.
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:49 PM
Um, that's precisely how one finds contradictions.
Cool story bro.
Monostradamus
08-16-2017, 01:50 PM
Keep looking for contradictions by comparing independent thoughts. Seems like a waste of time to me. :lol If you feel like it gives you a victory, then more power to you :lol
What's your take on homosexuality, Chris?
Chris
08-16-2017, 01:51 PM
What's your take on homosexuality, Chris?
You're a faggot.
Um, that's precisely how one finds contradictions.
I can say whatever I damn well please.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 01:53 PM
So weird that US troops who fought the Nazi's were largely straight white men -- the same demographic now allying with the Nazis.
The left is lauding the achievements of the demographic they lambast as privileged while the right has gone bat shit insane.
So defeating the Nazi's was an achievement of "largely straight white men"?
You are really going to go there?
American troops who fought the Nazis were predominately straight white men. Are you honestly disputing that?
Nope.
But in order to make that argument, you sort of glossed over why that was. Complex topic, and your rush to draw moral equivalence between left and right in this case, opens your flank to criticism.
No. You're being dishonest and putting words in my mouth. I said troops.
You're uncomfortable being confronted with the fact that you're lauding the accomplishments of white men a la the picture you posted in this thread. I never said your siding with white men when it's expedient for you was at all equivalent with what the right is doing.
Next time, don't rush to manufacture a squabble with me because I'll make you look like an ass, again.
I think the bigger ass is the one who oversimplifies shit, then tries to declare victory when they get called on their stupid shit without bothering to really defend anything, nor answer straightforward questions.
Why were most of those troops white, vy?
Pavlov
08-16-2017, 01:54 PM
Wow LOL Chris.I said there was a more than fair chance he would be unable to understand the contradiction.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 02:03 PM
So far, you've compared the likes of Antifa to the soldiers on D-day, the rebel alliance, chemotherapy, and Anne Frank. mmkay
We all agree with Indiana Jones when it comes to Nazis.
No, Darrin. Once again, halfway there.
I compared Nazis to cancer, the Empire, and... Nazis, in so doing I was comparing people who make the "many sides" arguments to drooling idiots.
I think the bigger ass is the one who oversimplifies shit, then tries to declare victory when they get called on their stupid shit without bothering to really defend anything, nor answer straightforward questions.
Why were most of those troops white, vy?
First post was about the troops -- you know, the ones that were in the picture you posted in this thread while making fun of the nazis. Per your concession, those troops were predominately white, straight, and male -- you know, the demographic you decry as being privileged. When this irony is pointed out to you, you flip out, manufacture a squabble, and when called out on it, you flip out some more.
Now, you're trying to manufacture more of an issue by claiming that the American war effort involved more than just white men. But that's not what you posted in this thread. That's not what you used to go after the nazis. You used a photo of white male troops. So go ahead and try to claim some nuance here -- the record speaks for itself though.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 02:11 PM
I think the bigger ass is the one who oversimplifies shit, then tries to declare victory when they get called on their stupid shit without bothering to really defend anything, nor answer straightforward questions.
Why were most of those troops white, vy?
First post was about the troops -- you know, the ones that were in the picture you posted in this thread while making fun of the nazis. Per your concession, those troops were predominately white, straight, and male -- you know, the demographic you decry as being privileged. When this irony is pointed out to you, you flip out, manufacture a squabble, and when called out on it, you flip out some more.
Now, you're trying to manufacture more of an issue by claiming that the American war effort involved more than just white men. But that's not what you posted in this thread. That's not what you used to go after the nazis. You used a photo of white male troops. So go ahead and try to claim some nuance here -- the record speaks for itself though.
:lmao
Dance, monkey. You did exactly what I said you were going to do.
DarrinS
08-16-2017, 02:14 PM
Current active military is majority white straight males. This thing called demographics.
Thread
08-16-2017, 02:15 PM
https://wordsmith.org/words/images/carpetbagger_large.jpg
Just open the fuckin' phone lines & quit being squeamish.
SnakeBoy
08-16-2017, 02:35 PM
damn 10 seconds by CNN on Pence
"I stand by the president and by those words"
back to 24hours of Trump :lol
holy shit blatant
It's funny how they are editing his comment to make it look like "stand by those words" refers to Trumps press conference.
RandomGuy
08-16-2017, 02:45 PM
Why were most of those troops white, vy?
Current active military is majority white straight males. This thing called demographics.
To your credit you at least tried to answer a direct question.
The problem of course, is that the question was a leading one, designed to make my point for me. I am reasonably confident you thought you would show me up, which is why you answered it. Here is some more rope.
What were the two primary factors determining US demographic make up prior to 1925? (same two factors that determine todays demographics)
SpursforSix
08-16-2017, 02:48 PM
To your credit you at least tried to answer a direct question.
The problem of course, is that the question was a leading one, designed to make my point for me. I am reasonably confident you thought you would show me up, which is why you answered it. Here is some more rope.
What were the two primary factors determining US demographic make up prior to 1925? (same two factors that determine todays demographics)
I'll step in...farming and dancing
SpursforSix
08-16-2017, 02:48 PM
To your credit you at least tried to answer a direct question.
The problem of course, is that the question was a leading one, designed to make my point for me. I am reasonably confident you thought you would show me up, which is why you answered it. Here is some more rope.
What were the two primary factors determining US demographic make up prior to 1925? (same two factors that determine todays demographics)
whoops...farming and farming
SpursforSix
08-16-2017, 02:49 PM
To your credit you at least tried to answer a direct question.
The problem of course, is that the question was a leading one, designed to make my point for me. I am reasonably confident you thought you would show me up, which is why you answered it. Here is some more rope.
What were the two primary factors determining US demographic make up prior to 1925? (same two factors that determine todays demographics)
damn autocorrect...manufacturing and baseball
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