Active shooter in Las Vegas

[Pavlov]

:lmao

Darrin got more defensive tonight than when he's actively being racist.

[DarrinS]

:lmao

Darrin got more defensive tonight than when he's actively being racist.


I guess you're having an off night.

[Pavlov]

I guess you're having an off night.I said I'm content to wait. It seriously won't take you very long, Darrin.

[DarrinS]

I said I'm content to wait. It seriously won't take you very long, Darrin.

I disagree with BLM and SJWs.

There you go. "Screaming racism"

[Pavlov]

I disagree with BLM and SJWs.

There you go. "Screaming racism"You should see you in the other thread. :tu

[da_suns_fan]

:lmao like you weren’t gonna break out the red pompoms if the guy was named Mohammed.


Some people are relieved he's white, other people are in denial and coming up with conspiracy theories to explain the shooter being white away, both equally pathetic :lmao

Both true.

[ElNono]

The shooter was white, they flipped the narrative to “mental health issues” and “too soon to discuss gun control”. Fox News is praying to Conservative Jesus that this guy was anti-Trump.

lololol

"Neighbors said he was just a normal guy"

"All signs point to mental health"

"He used to walk his dog twice a week"

[ElNono]

Yeah that's a tough one to look at and really puts into perspective how fucked up the scene was.

Cosmored will be here shortly to explain how that was a photoshop

[spurraider21]

Cosmored will be here shortly to explain how that was a photoshop
followed by that one poster who only pops up when cosmored does and spams marx pictures

[Splits]

https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-pLs8OCGdN7Y/WdKQ1S5-_xI/AAAAAAAAzR8/o8cKZMafCcI6-IE1Vce7viFtVdrGizabwCLcBGAs/s1600/0229ebb300db8a9be5a54b3f67e6833e--mental-disorders-political-satire.jpg

[monosylab1k]

I disagree with BLM and SJWs.

There you go. "Screaming racism"

Why do you disagree with BLM?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That's possible tbh. They aren't fully outlawed.

Form an LLC in your name and have the license transferred there. No need for a law enforcement waiver.

[Splits]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJz2D8UQAAs38k.jpg

[Reck]

ISIS screwed the pooch there. They were betting on it being a lone wolf Muslim, but it turned out to be a plain old white American. Thus, ISIS is overrated. And they're already getting backed into a narrow corner of the Euphrates and less than a year from being eradicated. ISIS is lame.

ISIS is desperate for attention. They're dying out.

They've been driven out of their own stronghold. Just gasping for air at this point.

[diego]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJz2D8UQAAs38k.jpg

This is super on point but will only draw crickets...

[Spurminator]

I think getting an abortion should be 10x easier than getting a gun, tbh.

[boutons_deux]

The fucked up govt policies that Repugs whores pass as paid for by BigGun
Why the government won’t fund gun violence research"a 1996 appropriations bill, known as the Dickey Amendment. The amendment (https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-104publ208/pdf/PLAW-104publ208.pdf) declared that "none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) may be used to advocate or promote gun control.”

it was signed into law along with an earmark that drained money from CDC programs to study gun violence. The $2.6 million in funding originally intended for the program was redirected elsewhere.

a researcher at the University of California, Davis, told (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/gun-control-laws-research/424956/)The Atlantic, “I’ve received death threats. It kind of comes with the territory.”

“We dedicate $240 million a year on traffic safety research,

more than $233 million a year on food safety and

$331 million a year on the effects of tobacco,

but almost nothing on firearms that kill 33,000 Americans annually.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/why-the-government-wont-fund-gun-violence-research/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

After Las Vegas, Dems demand GOP pull gun silencer bill
https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/after-las-vegas-dems-demand-gop-pull-gun-silencer-bill/

:lol Repugs whores with no convictions, only gun-promoting.

[boutons_deux]

Gun shop owner who sold to Vegas shooter: ‘He was a normal guy that walks into my door 50,000 times a day’

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/CNN_10-03-2017_06.03.00-F1141-2-800x430.jpg


https://www.rawstory.com/2017/10/gun-shop-owner-who-sold-to-vegas-shooter-he-was-just-a-normal-guy-who-walks-into-my-door-50000-times-a-day/

[Blake]

The American normal

[Pavlov]

We're going to be hearing "bump stock" a lot. Prepare for the gun nuts' being dicks about the difference between modifications like that and full auto.

[Aztecfan03]

I think getting an abortion should be 10x easier than getting a gun, tbh.

it is...

[DarrinS]

Crazy video taken by cab driver


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiRr763gJA

At little after 4:55, she pans her phone and muzzle flashes appear pretty low. Are those muzzle flashes?

I also noticed that some bursts sound much closer than others. I don't know much about guns. Maybe there's a logical explanation.

[ducks]

I think getting an abortion should be 10x easier than getting a gun, tbh.

I do not the kid is a baby should put it up for adobotion if you do not want it not kill it
adds on craiglist people are willing to pay 50k for you to carry their baby in your body since they can not have kids

if both could die then you can make a choice but for the most part abortion is not a good answer

some get it because they think kids are in the way for 2 years but later oko
WEAR A CONDOM DUH!

[ducks]

tons of teenage girls regret getting abortions

[DisAsTerBot]

Ducks says adobotion is the answer.

[Spurminator]

it is...

When Texas is down to 10 gun stores in the entire state, let's talk.

[Trainwreck2100]

I would never regret getting my gun

[Xevious]

Crazy video taken by cab driver


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiRr763gJA

At little after 4:55, she pans her phone and muzzle flashes appear pretty low. Are those muzzle flashes?

I also noticed that some bursts sound much closer than others. I don't know much about guns. Maybe there's a logical explanation.
It's hard to say about the flashes. There are so many blinking lights and reflective glass that could've been anything. The sound discrepancy is strange though, not sure why some shots sounded so distant compared to others if they all came from the same room.

[Pavlov]

Crazy video taken by cab driver


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNiRr763gJA

At little after 4:55, she pans her phone and muzzle flashes appear pretty low. Are those muzzle flashes?Can't be unless it's some kind of weird reflection. Windows don't open. I guess you could speculate about something inside that room; it is weird looking.


I also noticed that some bursts sound much closer than others. I don't know much about guns. Maybe there's a logical explanation.Shooter was moving between two windows that face different directions. If she was pulling into the north entrance it makes sense that the shots fired from the end of the building were louder.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting/2adbdbfdd0376bd957a479a3ede9d155deb653bd/vegas-ge-close-1050.jpg

[Blake]

Ducks says adobotion is the answer.

Better than adobortion I guess

[Pavlov]

The sound discrepancy is strange though, not sure why some shots sounded so distant compared to others if they all came from the same room.There have been reports that he was moving between a suite and an adjoining room.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/2017/10/02/las-vegas-shooting/2adbdbfdd0376bd957a479a3ede9d155deb653bd/room-diagram-600.jpg

I got all this from the NYTimes. Pretty good overview.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/02/us/mandalay-bay-vegas-shooting.html

[Blake]

I would never regret getting my gun


Pretty sure there are those that do

[UNT Eagles 2016]

ISIS is desperate for attention. They're dying out.

They've been driven out of their own stronghold. Just gasping for air at this point.

Yep. And this is good. Once they are gone hopefully we can GTFO the middle east for awhile

[DarrinS]

Can't be unless it's some kind of weird reflection. Windows don't open. I guess you could speculate about something inside that room; it is weird looking.

Shooter was moving between two windows that face different directions. If she was pulling into the north entrance it makes sense that the shots fired from the end of the building were louder.




I wouldn't expect it to sound so much further away, but maybe has to do with how sound waves propagate from the muzzle.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

There have been reports that he was moving between a suite and an adjoining room.


I got all this from the NYTimes. Pretty good overview.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/02/us/mandalay-bay-vegas-shooting.html

That, the fact there were so many shots and the fact that he was a 64 year old man, would indicate to me that there could have been at least one other person "assisting" him in the killings. Perhaps someone younger and the old man had him leave stealthily well before the cops came (they didn't come for over an hour after the last shots were fired).

[DarrinS]

And why 23 guns for one person? Don't mean to sound like a conspiratard.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I do not the kid is a baby should put it up for adobotion if you do not want it not kill it
adds on craiglist people are willing to pay 50k for you to carry their baby in your body since they can not have kids

if both could die then you can make a choice but for the most part abortion is not a good answer

some get it because they think kids are in the way for 2 years but later oko
WEAR A CONDOM DUH!

$50k? Holy shit i'd make a killing if I were a girl

[UNT Eagles 2016]

And why 23 guns for one person? Don't mean to sound like a conspiratard.

The two broken windows thing, plus the consistency of the gunshots would point to two shooters to me.

[Blake]

$50k? Holy shit i'd make a killing if I were a girl

You that hard up for a decent paying job, bruh?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

You that hard up for a decent paying job, bruh?

$50k every 9 months translates to $62,500 a year... then you add a regular job and it's easily six figures per year tbh.

[DarrinS]

The two broken windows thing, plus the consistency of the gunshots would point to two shooters to me.


Well, he could have one set up in each window. I never heard multiple guns at the same time.

Still doesn't explain the need for 21 other guns.

[Blake]

$50k every 9 months translates to $62,500 a year... then you add a regular job and it's easily six figures per year tbh.

I'm gonna pop some tots
Only got twenty dollars in my pocket
I - I - I'm hunting, looking for a come-up
This is fucking awesome

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Well, he could have one set up in each window. I never heard multiple guns at the same time.

Still doesn't explain the need for 21 other guns.

He probably planned to, idk, take over the world or something? Then got tired and shot himself instead.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I'm gonna pop some tots
Only got twenty dollars in my pocket
I - I - I'm hungry, hurtin' in the tummy
This is fucking awesome

fixed

[Pavlov]

I wouldn't expect it to sound so much further away, but maybe has to do with how sound waves propagate from the muzzle.More direct sound compared to being around the corner.


That, the fact there were so many shots and the fact that he was a 64 year old man, would indicate to me that there could have been at least one other person "assisting" him in the killings. Perhaps someone younger and the old man had him leave stealthily well before the cops came (they didn't come for over an hour after the last shots were fired).He set up guns on bi- or tripods at each window and walked between them. The police and security approached the room during the attack but received fire and waited for SWAT. No way anyone got out of that room.


And why 23 guns for one person? Don't mean to sound like a conspiratard.Dude liked guns.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

He set up guns on bi- or tripods at each window and walked between them. The police and security approached the room during the attack but received fire and waited for SWAT. No way anyone got out of that room.

no... if you read the police dialog timeline, they didn't even begin to zero in on the location of the source of the shots until around 30 minutes after the attack. In the first 10-15 minutes or so they weren't sure if the shooter was in the fairgrounds, outside or inside the Mandalay or the Luxor hotel.

[Pavlov]

no... if you read the police dialog timeline, they didn't even begin to zero in on the location of the source of the shots until around 30 minutes after the attack. In the first 10-15 minutes or so they weren't sure if the shooter was in the fairgrounds, outside or inside the Mandalay or the Luxor hotel.Hotel security already knew.

https://globalnews.ca/video/3781502/las-vegas-shooter-shot-a-mandalay-bay-hotel-security-guard

[ducks]

I was reading my "The World's greatest Small Arms" book by Craig/Philip.
In the handgun section, it states that most pistols 1911/Sig/Glocks (.45, 9mm etc.)have effective range about only 30m (32yd). Does this sound right?
I thought pistol ammos were lethal to aleast 50-100yds?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Hotel security already knew.

https://globalnews.ca/video/3781502/las-vegas-shooter-shot-a-mandalay-bay-hotel-security-guard

perhaps, but it took time for local and higher level police to catch on, and even longer for them to begin zeroing in on location.

[Pavlov]

perhaps, but it took time for local and higher level police to catch on, and even longer for them to begin zeroing in on location.
Even with pandemonium on the streets, one officer has clearly identified where the shooting is coming from:

“I'm inside the Mandalay Bay on the 31st floor, I can hear the automatic fire coming from one floor ahead, one floor above us.”

“Repeating, just be advised it is automatic fire. Fully automatic fire from an elevated position. Take cover.”

“That is correct, it’s fully automatic fire. I'm right below it.”No one could sneak out of that room.

[ducks]

https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/las-vegas-shooting/las-vegas-shooter-wired-100-000-philippines-last-week-n807141

vegas-shooter-wired-100-000-philippines-last-week

[Blake]

915251558731968513

[spurraider21]

915251558731968513
He needed that to defend himself from a tyrannical state tbh

[ducks]

someone told me they heard another shooting was involved on the 7 floor
Did anyone else here that?

[spurraider21]

someone told me they heard another shooting was involved on the 7 floor
Did anyone else here that?
It was James alefantis and John podesta

[Trill Clinton]

The two broken windows thing, plus the consistency of the gunshots would point to two shooters to me.

They said he had tripods. Probably had 2 weapons on the tripods set at each window and was alternating between them.

[Splits]

VB1QlHtOWCQ

yeeee hawwww

[CosmicCowboy]

Bump stocks will probably get outlawedafter this. I always thought they were stupid anyway.

[Chucho]

Did they ever say what meds he was on?

[Pavlov]

VB1QlHtOWCQ

yeeee hawwwwProbably more like this.

grR-UT9jEQ8

[ducks]

"A lot of people on the left are saying, 'oh, if we only did this background check,'" Ingraham said of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock "He would have passed the background check. If we outlawed machine guns, very difficult to get. So that wouldn't have helped. And I saw them on networks this morning, what specifically would have stopped this? They actually have no constitutional answer.

Government can not solve everything

[Pavlov]

"A lot of people on the left are saying, 'oh, if we only did this background check,'" Ingraham said of Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock "He would have passed the background check. If we outlawed machine guns, very difficult to get. So that wouldn't have helped. And I saw them on networks this morning, what specifically would have stopped this? They actually have no constitutional answer.

Government can not solve everythingI don't think he used an actual machine gun.

[ducks]

do you think the gov can solve all problems?

[Chucho]

do you think the gov can solve all problems?

People need to solve themselves. EVERYTHING is blamed on Politics/political affiliation like it's a medical diagnosis.

We're a warped society. It's not guns. It's people and people refuse to accept that. That's why someone is always looking for an excuse that isn't "people" or people's mind states.

[Splits]

:cry It's not guns nuts. It's people who call them gun nuts :cry

[Chucho]

Splits proving my point.

[Chucho]

Anyone got the skinny on what meds dude was on?

[ducks]

People need to solve themselves. EVERYTHING is blamed on Politics/political affiliation like it's a medical diagnosis.

We're a warped society. It's not guns. It's people and people refuse to accept that. That's why someone is always looking for an excuse that isn't "people" or people's mind states.

I agree less gov the better

[Splits]

I agree less gov the better

He should go to Puerto Rico and tell those Mexicans they owe us money!

Oh wait...

[boutons_deux]

This Headline About The Vegas Shooter Speaks Volumes About White Privilege In America

illustrates how deeply white supremacy and white privilege is entrenched in our nation and the media.

Observers were quick to note that the language used by preliminary reports – “lone wolf,” “local” shooter, “gunman,” “distraught person” all clearly indicated that he was white. Otherwise, he would have been labeled a “terrorist,” which is code for “nonwhite, usually Muslim.”

The man who systematically murdered 58 people and wounded over five hundred more is being remembered for “enjoyment” of gambling and for living a “quiet life.”

There’s no mention of his high-stakes gambling, his father’s history of crime, his “aggressively unfriendly” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/02/las-vegas-gunman-liked-to-gamble-listened-to-country-music-lived-quiet-retired-life-before-massacre/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_paddock-1050am-winner%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.9b43419b9429)demeanor.

On the other hand, when Ferguson teenager Michael Brown was murdered by a police officer, the New York Times said he was “no angel” (https://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/an-ill-chosen-phrase-no-angel-brings-a-storm-of-protest/?mcubz=0)because he once stole a box of smokes, enjoyed intoxicating substances, and liked that nasty hip-hop style rap music.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJarP2UEAACSdb.jpg

http://verifiedpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/noangel.jpg

http://verifiedpolitics.com/headline-vegas-shooter-speaks-volumes-white-privilege-america-2/

... one of the many reasons Ta Nishi Coates told Colbert last night that he has no hope for racism.

[Chucho]

This Headline About The Vegas Shooter Speaks Volumes About White Privilege In America

illustrates how deeply white supremacy and white privilege is entrenched in our nation and the media.

Observers were quick to note that the language used by preliminary reports – “lone wolf,” “local” shooter, “gunman,” “distraught person” all clearly indicated that he was white. Otherwise, he would have been labeled a “terrorist,” which is code for “nonwhite, usually Muslim.”

The man who systematically murdered 58 people and wounded over five hundred more is being remembered for “enjoyment” of gambling and for living a “quiet life.”

There’s no mention of his high-stakes gambling, his father’s history of crime, his “aggressively unfriendly” (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/10/02/las-vegas-gunman-liked-to-gamble-listened-to-country-music-lived-quiet-retired-life-before-massacre/?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_paddock-1050am-winner%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.9b43419b9429)demeanor.

On the other hand, when Ferguson teenager Michael Brown was murdered by a police officer, the New York Times said he was “no angel” (https://publiceditor.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/08/25/an-ill-chosen-phrase-no-angel-brings-a-storm-of-protest/?mcubz=0)because he once stole a box of smokes, enjoyed intoxicating substances, and liked that nasty hip-hop style rap music.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DLJarP2UEAACSdb.jpg

http://verifiedpolitics.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/noangel.jpg

http://verifiedpolitics.com/headline-vegas-shooter-speaks-volumes-white-privilege-america-2/

... one of the many reasons Ta Nishi Coates told Colbert last night that he has no hope for racism.




:lmao
http://collisionrevolutional.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/reaching-hand.jpg

[monosylab1k]

I agree less gov the better

Good idea! Less government is better. So no gun control.......also no border walls, no travel bans, no abortion restrictions, and no restrictions on where people are allowed to pee. Glad we can agree on this :tu

[spurraider21]

People need to solve themselves. EVERYTHING is blamed on Politics/political affiliation like it's a medical diagnosis.

We're a warped society. It's not guns. It's people and people refuse to accept that. That's why someone is always looking for an excuse that isn't "people" or people's mind states.
Sure, people are the actors, guns are the tools. But take the guns away from paddock. How many people die on Sunday? Why not let civilians own rocket launchers? They don't kill people. People kill people.

Murder existed before guns and will continue to exist. But guns, especially of that capacity, make it way too easy to kill a lot of people in a short period of time

[Chucho]

Sure, people are the actors, guns are the tools. But take the guns away from paddock. How many people die on Sunday? Why not let civilians own rocket launchers? They don't kill people. People kill people.

Murder existed before guns and will continue to exist. But guns, especially of that capacity, make it way too easy to kill a lot of people in a short period of time

I'm not saying there shouldn't be gun control. No one needs assault rifles. But, removing guns isn't going to solve issues, Chicago's morgue sees this same number of carcasses every month, and the scary majority of them are gang/minority/poverty-neighborhood related homicides with illegally obtained weapons.

[Chucho]

The biggest lesson from Prohibition- if they want it, they're going to get it and it's never for the better in regards to the collateral damage occurred for the suppliers to give it to the demand side of the equation.

[SpursforSix]

Anyone got the skinny on what meds dude was on?

No. But this is a valid question. Doctors prescribe anti depressants out the ass with no thought to long term consequences.

[ducks]

so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?

[spurraider21]

I'm not saying there shouldn't be gun control. No one needs assault rifles. But, removing guns isn't going to solve issues, Chicago's morgue sees this same number of carcasses every month, and the scary majority of them are gang/minority/poverty-neighborhood related homicides with illegally obtained weapons.
It's a straw man to say that gun control will not end murder. When you see the weaponry paddock had, there's no justifiable reason to allow anybody to possess that much destructive capability. No good reason. Call it assault weapons, high capacity mags, whatever it is. We need to take STEPS to reach a point where people can't stockpile shit like that so easily.

I don't think you can cure murder but I think you can certainly reduce mass shootings which are more terrifying since targets are random. Most violent crimes including murder are committed by someone the victim knows. That doesn't make it "better" but people aren't waking the streets in terror of getting murdered.

[spurraider21]

so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?
Did avante switch Accounts?

That's a really strange thought. Even for ducks

[Splits]

It's a straw man to say that gun control will not end murder. When you see the weaponry paddock had, there's no justifiable reason to allow anybody to possess that much destructive capability. No good reason. Call it assault weapons, high capacity mags, whatever it is. We need to take STEPS to reach a point where people can't stockpile shit like that so easily.

I don't think you can cure murder but I think you can certainly reduce mass shootings which are more terrifying since targets are random. Most violent crimes including murder are committed by someone the victim knows. That doesn't make it "better" but people aren't waking the streets in terror of getting murdered.

He only had like, 45 guns

[ducks]

He only had like, 45 guns

and he was rich and on the black market he would have still got them

[Chucho]

It's a straw man to say that gun control will end murder. When you see the weaponry paddock had, there's no justifiable reason to allow anybody to possess that much destructive capability. No good reason. Call it assault weapons, high capacity mags, whatever it is. We need to take STEPS to reach a point where people can't stockpile shit like that so easily.

I don't think you can cure murder but I think you can certainly reduce mass shootings which are more terrifying since targets are random. Most violent crimes including murder are committed by someone the victim knows. That doesn't make it "better" but people aren't waking the streets in terror of getting murdered.

I agree. No one should own military grade weaponry, that was something proven during Prohibition/Bonnie&Clyde gangster days. But, removing guns totally is just going to create a nasty black market with uglier consequences than what we're suffering now.

[spurraider21]

I agree. No one should own military grade weaponry, that was something proven during Prohibition/Bonnie&Clyde gangster days. But, removing guns totally is just going to create a nasty black market with uglier consequences than what we're suffering now.
Who is advocating for removing guns completely? Another straw man.

The black market will thrive because we have an absolutely insane number of guns in circulation. A government buy-back program could help. Australia did that, worked out fine. Basically cash for clunkers 2.0

[ducks]

Study: Americans Own 42 Percent of 650 Million Civilian Firearms Worldwide

[ducks]

Who is advocating for removing guns completely? Another straw man.

The black market will thrive because we have an absolutely insane number of guns in circulation. A government buy-back program could help. Australia did that, worked out fine. Basically cash for clunkers 2.0

yes the government has lots of money or what we are in debt and roads suck ass or wait we must give foreign aid to other countries
people are dying can not take care of ourselves

[Splits]

and he was rich and on the black market he would have still got them

But he got them legally.

You're OK with that?

[ducks]

I am ok with people obeying the law
he broke the law shooting people
I am not ok with people breaking the law coming in the usa then having a baby and making them a usa citizen

[Splits]

I am ok with people obeying the law
he broke the law shooting people
I am not ok with people breaking the law coming in the usa then having a baby and making them a usa citizen

I love how you conflate life and death.

[SpursforSix]

Did avante switch Accounts?

That's a really strange thought. Even for ducks

LOL. It's one of the weirdest questions ever posed on ST.

[ducks]

he killed and hurt a lot of people but what if he built a bomb instead and killed more

all he had to do is go online and find out how to build a bomb

are you going to make a law to take that off the internet?

[SpursforSix]

he killed and hurt a lot of people but what if he built a bomb instead and killed more

all he had to do is go online and find out how to build a bomb

are you going to make a law to take that off the internet?

Hey...what's with you wanting to pee in front of a 13 year old?

[Chucho]

Who is advocating for removing guns completely? Another straw man.

The black market will thrive because we have an absolutely insane number of guns in circulation. A government buy-back program could help. Australia did that, worked out fine. Basically cash for clunkers 2.0

LOL, I didn't say gun control won't end all murder, and I'm not citing anyone, just generalizing the rhetoric of most anti-gun proponents.

I'm in agreement with you on most of it. I'm saying that 1. gun control won't stop people from getting guns that want them and 2. people would be wise to learn what happens when you try and remove something ingrained in society for centuries.

[Splits]

Hey...what's with you wanting to pee in front of a 13 year old?

Same question.

[ducks]

I love how you conflate life and death.

are you ok with people breaking the law and getting rewarded and letting the kid become a citizen of the greatest country in the world?

[monosylab1k]

so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?

Do you think the govt is responsible for your peeing habits?

[spurraider21]

LOL, I didn't say gun control won't end all murder, and I'm not citing anyone, just generalizing the rhetoric of most anti-gun proponents.

I'm in agreement with you on most of it. I'm saying that 1. gun control won't stop people from getting guns that want them and 2. people would be wise to learn what happens when you try and remove something ingrained in society for centuries.
I disagree that gun control won't stop people from getting guns. Look at England, Australia, Hong Kong

[SpursforSix]

are you ok with people breaking the law and getting rewarded and letting the kid become a citizen of the greatest country in the world?

Before we get to that...we should address your peeing in front of kids.

[ducks]

a person said I was ok with people peeing where they wanted
I was making a point
do you want me to pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?

1out of 1billion would not do that but since 1 out of 1 billion someone thinks the gov should have a law

[ducks]

Do you think the govt is responsible for your peeing habits?
no my parents are not the gov
you see parents are responsible for training you
parents want the gov to do it for them

[Splits]

are you ok with people breaking the law and getting rewarded and letting the kid become a citizen of the greatest country in the world?

No. But the greatest country in the world doesn't have that policy.

Now, about giving kids golden showers... what was that about?

[SpursforSix]

a person said I was ok with people peeing where they wanted
I was making a point
do you want me to pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?

1out of 1billion would not do that but since 1 out of 1 billion someone thinks the gov should have a law

I don't care what anyone said. You wanting to pee in front of kids is damn disturbing.

[ducks]

I would never do that

[Pavlov]

do you think the gov can solve all problems?Nevada has some of the least restrictive gun laws in the nation. Do you think fewer laws would solve this problem?

[monosylab1k]

no my parents are not the gov

Good! Then you agree that the government shouldn’t make laws about where people take a piss. I mean, sick people will pee wherever they want to, there’s no stopping them, therefore the government shouldn’t do anything.

[ducks]

Good idea! Less government is better. So no gun control.......also no border walls, no travel bans, no abortion restrictions, and no restrictions on where people are allowed to pee. Glad we can agree on this :tu

he brought up peeing not me

[monosylab1k]

he brought up peeing not me

You brought up 13 year old girls, not me.

[ducks]

Good! Then you agree that the government shouldn’t make laws about where people take a piss. I mean, sick people will pee wherever they want to, there’s no stopping them, therefore the government shouldn’t do anything.

do you know in china they let their kids go around with nothing and the go when they want
and then others go to a field and just go

[SpursforSix]

do you know in china they let their kids go around with nothing and the go when they want
and then others go to a field and just go

Okay. So that makes you want to pee in front of kids?

[Splits]

do you know in china they let their kids go around with nothing and the go when they want
and then others go to a field and just go

I knew that.

[ducks]

Nevada has some of the least restrictive gun laws in the nation. Do you think fewer laws would solve this problem?

why do we not solve Chicago problems they have the toughest guns laws and 2780 people this year then 59 in vegas

59 is way less then 2780 even in spain and pr

[SpursforSix]

why do we not solve Chicago problems they have the toughest guns laws and 2780 people this year then 59 in vegas

What do you propose? Running around and peeing on everyone?

[Splits]

What do you propose? Running around and peeing on everyone?

Only underage girls.

[SpursforSix]

Only underage girls.

I guess that would keep some of them from shoosting each other.

[monosylab1k]

so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?
:lmao

pedoducks

[Splits]

914911683742699521

Hey ducks, is it a right or a privilege to pee on 13 year old girls?

[monosylab1k]

People are going to come into this country illegally anyways, so there’s no point in a border wall. Leave government out of this!

[Blake]

The biggest lesson from Prohibition- if they want it, they're going to get it and it's never for the better in regards to the collateral damage occurred for the suppliers to give it to the demand side of the equation.

I'd love to see a bunch of underground shoot-easys with people dancing around, enjoying their homemade gunshine

[monosylab1k]

People like ducks are going to download kiddie porn no matter what, there’s no stopping them, so just let them do it instead of the government getting involved.

[monosylab1k]

Muslims are going to suicide bomb people no matter what, we can’t stop them from doing it, therefore no travel bans.

[SnakeBoy]

It's a straw man to say that gun control will not end murder. When you see the weaponry paddock had, there's no justifiable reason to allow anybody to possess that much destructive capability. No good reason. Call it assault weapons, high capacity mags, whatever it is. We need to take STEPS to reach a point where people can't stockpile shit like that so easily.

I don't think you can cure murder but I think you can certainly reduce mass shootings which are more terrifying since targets are random. Most violent crimes including murder are committed by someone the victim knows. That doesn't make it "better" but people aren't waking the streets in terror of getting murdered.

Take what steps. Be specific.

That's not a attempt to mock Chump either. Just say exactly what you want to see happen. If it's ban guns that's fine.

[Chucho]

I disagree that gun control won't stop people from getting guns. Look at England, Australia, Hong Kong

Harder to get guns into islands and Hong Kong is surrounded 3/4s by water and has a government that has no qualms about killing violators. Neither has to deal with the cartels south of their borders that are extremely capable smugglers. Not saying it's not impossible, but we've got some variables/issues these examples don't.

[Chucho]

I'd love to see a bunch of underground shoot-easys with people dancing around, enjoying their homemade gunshine

Miss.

[spurraider21]

Harder to get guns into islands and Hong Kong is surrounded 3/4s by water and has a government that has no qualms about killing violators. Neither has to deal with the cartels south of their borders that are extremely capable smugglers. Not saying it's not impossible, but we've got some variables/issues these examples don't.
How many of our guns are smuggled in?

[ducks]

I do not do kid porn
I am not a perverte YOU brought up peeing not me
I wish I never typed that

[Blake]

Miss.

It was your analogy

[ducks]

People are going to come into this country illegally anyways, so there’s no point in a border wall. Leave government out of this!

the point is to stop drugs

[TSA]

It's a straw man to say that gun control will not end murder. When you see the weaponry paddock had, there's no justifiable reason to allow anybody to possess that much destructive capability. No good reason. Call it assault weapons, high capacity mags, whatever it is. We need to take STEPS to reach a point where people can't stockpile shit like that so easily.

If someone can afford that many firearms and pass background checks for each what justifiable reason would you have to stop them from doing so? When it's all said and done I bet he only used 4 rifles max so your fear of a "stockpile" seems misguided.

[Pavlov]

the point is to stop drugsPeople will do drugs anyway so repeal all laws.

[spurraider21]

If someone can afford that many firearms and pass background checks for each what justifiable reason would you have to stop them from doing so? When it's all said and done I bet he only used 4 rifles max so your fear of a "stockpile" seems misguided.
I would say one assault rifle is too much. Four is an insanely unnecessary amount . No good justification for it, and gun fetish isn't an important enough concept to protect

[Pavlov]

If someone can afford that many firearms and pass background checks for each what justifiable reason would you have to stop them from doing so? When it's all said and done I bet he only used 4 rifles max so your fear of a "stockpile" seems misguided.You're trying to reassure us?

[Chucho]

How many of our guns are smuggled in?

You don't think it'd be an issue? If humans are trafficked, you think guns won't/can't be?

[Chucho]

It was your analogy
And you missed the point of it.

Prohibition created a huge death increase, like 70% or something.

[spurraider21]

Take what steps. Be specific.

That's not a attempt to mock Chump either. Just say exactly what you want to see happen. If it's ban guns that's fine.
I'm not somebody who supports banning guns. I absolutely believe in arming oneself for self defense. I don't currently own a gun (not a financial priority in a new marriage) and we've got a pit bull patrolling the front yard :lol. But at some point do want to own a shotgun for that purpose.

I would look at what enables mass shootings. Having a certain quantity of bullets in your possession at a given time. Weapons capable of firing dozens of rounds in a short periods of time. Assault weapons which are extremely deadly at ranges that far exceed self defense purposes.

[spurraider21]

You don't think it'd be an issue? If humans are trafficked, you think guns won't/can't be?
I don't doubt there will be a market. I doubt that some people won't be deterred. People still drank during prohibition, but not nearly as much as before/after prohibition

[Will Hunting]

Let's back up, why did ducks start talking about peeing on 13 YO girls :lol

id put him up there with Fabbs as one of the weirdest motherfuckers on this site, so this would explain a lot :lol

[Splits]

If someone can afford that many firearms and pass background checks for each what justifiable reason would you have to stop them from doing so? When it's all said and done I bet he only used 4 rifles max so your fear of a "stockpile" seems misguided.

Identify all gun nuts and send them to conversion therapy. Kind of like the red team does with duh gheys

[Pavlov]

Chicago*ding*

[Chucho]

I don't doubt there will be a market. I doubt that some people won't be deterred. People still drank during prohibition, but not nearly as much as before/after prohibition

Bootlegger/Gangster income from illegal hooch was in the hundreds of millions in old-timey money, that's billions in today's casheesh.

[Blake]

I would say one assault rifle is too much. Four is an insanely unnecessary amount . No good justification for it, and gun fetish isn't an important enough concept to protect

:cry don't call it an assault rifle

[Splits]

I want gun-only bathrooms. I don't feel safe around gun nuts in isolated spaces.

[ducks]

*ding*
we are discussing fixing the issue at hard in vegas
we are talking about gun laws
SO DING YOURSELF NOT CHANGING THE SUBJECT

[TSA]

I would say one assault rifle is too much. Four is an insanely unnecessary amount . No good justification for it, and gun fetish isn't an important enough concept to protect

He didn't have any assault rifles. Are you arguing that bumpfire/slidestocks should be banned? If so I would disagree and say they should be regulated by the ATF like assault rifles are.

[Blake]

And you missed the point of it.

Prohibition created a huge death increase, like 70% or something.

How were people dying

[Chucho]

*ding*

It's actually a fair argument to make in regards to how ineffectual gun control can be.

[TSA]

You're trying to reassure us?

Reassure you of what?

[Blake]

:cry don't call it an assault rifle


He didn't have any assault rifles. Are you arguing that bumpfire/slidestocks should be banned? If so I would disagree and say they should be regulated by the ATF like assault rifles are.

Ha. Beat you by like 30 seconds

[Spurminator]

I want gun-only bathrooms. I don't feel safe around gun nuts in isolated spaces.

:lol

[Chucho]

How were people dying

Murders to control turf. Alcohol poisoning due to rot gut and bathtub brews.

[Pavlov]

we are discussing fixing the issue at hard in vegas
we are talking about gun laws
SO DING YOURSELF NOT CHANGING THE SUBJECTOf course it is changing the subject.

But kudos to your dear leader for stopping American carnage back in January. Smooth sailing ever since. :tu

[spurraider21]

He didn't have any assault rifles. Are you arguing that bumpfire/slidestocks should be banned? If so I would disagree and say they should be regulated by the ATF like assault rifles are.
Ban AR-47's and AK-15's tbh

I don't care what you call them. Take guns that can deal that scale of carnage. Do away with it. The gun itself? Modifications? Attachments? I don't care how you're going to categorize it.

[ducks]

Report: Las Vegas Gunman Filmed Himself During Carnage

[Pavlov]

He didn't have any assault rifles.:lol that was only a matter of time.
Are you arguing that bumpfire/slidestocks should be banned? If so I would disagree and say they should be regulated by the ATF like assault rifles are.Who needs bumpfire/slidestocks?

[ducks]

Paddock also set up other cameras in the hotel's hallway to capture police arriving, The Daily Mail reported.

[spurraider21]

:lol that was only a matter of time.Who needs bumpfire/slidestocks?
Self defense from tyranny tbh

[lebomb]

It damned sure looked like an assault rifle. But, we will just say do away with high capacity semi auto rifles. They can shoot a lot of bullets a long long way. No one needs that unless they are in law enforcement or at war.

[Spurminator]

I'm content to discuss the ramifications of legal semis and modifications after we repeal the fucking Dickey Amendment which is about the most transparent lobby blowjob ever passed by Congress.

[TSA]

Ha. Beat you by like 30 seconds

You beat the lawyer :tu

[Big Empty]

videos are making the rounds on facebook of alleged machine gun fire from lower floors.

[ducks]

Vatican Urges Online Protections for Kids amid Porn Scandal

[ducks]

videos are making the rounds on facebook of alleged machine gun fire from lower floors.

so others were involved not a lone wolf!

[Pavlov]

videos are making the rounds on facebook of alleged machine gun fire from lower floors.Yeah, have you seen the other ones making the rounds on facebook where they fix all the windows they shot through down there?

[spurraider21]

Vatican Urges Online Protections for Kids amid Porn Scandal
First talking about peeing on little girls now posting about porn scandal. All in a thread about a mass shooting Wtf

[ducks]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/21871/rapper-white-people-are-reason-why-guns-are-hank-berrien?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand
WHO AGREES WITH THIS DUDE?

[Splits]

Who needs bumpfire/slidestocks?

How are we going to protect our 1st Amendment rights?

[TSA]

Ban AR-47's and AK-15's tbh

I don't care what you call them. Take guns that can deal that scale of carnage. Do away with it. The gun itself? Modifications? Attachments? I don't care how you're going to categorize it.

So only bolt action rifles should be legal?

[spurraider21]

So only bolt action rifles should be legal?
Top 5 Strawman post in this thread

[TSA]

:lol that was only a matter of time.Who needs bumpfire/slidestocks?

I don't need/want one, but I do think they are dangerous since they aren't regulated like machine guns are.

[Splits]

So only bolt action rifles should be legal?

Only for hunting. Yes.

[Pavlov]

I don't need/want one, but I do think they are dangerous since they aren't regulated like machine guns are.That was not my question.

Who needs bumpfire/slidestocks?

[spurraider21]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/21871/rapper-white-people-are-reason-why-guns-are-hank-berrien?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand
WHO AGREES WITH THIS DUDE?
Nobody here

[Pavlov]

http://www.dailywire.com/news/21871/rapper-white-people-are-reason-why-guns-are-hank-berrien?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=social&utm_content=062316-news&utm_campaign=dwbrand
WHO AGREES WITH THIS DUDE?I agree with Ben Shapiro that blacks be scary.

[TSA]

Top 5 Strawman post in this thread


Take guns that can deal that scale of carnage.

What semi automatic rifle did you have in mind that could not deal that scale of carnage?

[lebomb]

Lil B is a big ol clown.

[Pavlov]

What semi automatic rifle did you have in mind that could not deal that scale of carnage?I think this will be predictably bogged down in pissy technicalities and jargon whoring, so tell us what you want to happen with gun laws and/or regulations after 58 were murdered and 500+ wounded by one senior citizen for no apparent reason.

[Chucho]

I think this will be predictably bogged down in pissy technicalities and jargon whoring, so tell us what you want to happen with gun laws and/or regulations after 58 were murdered and 500+ wounded by one senior citizen for no apparent reason.

Serious here, I would like to hear your proposal as well. I always like to see both sides of the coin before it's flipped.

[TSA]

That was not my question.

Who needs bumpfire/slidestocks?

If you are not asking me why are you expecting me to answer for someone else?

[TSA]

I think this will be predictably bogged down in pissy technicalities and jargon whoring, so tell us what you want to happen with gun laws and/or regulations after 58 were murdered and 500+ wounded by one senior citizen for no apparent reason.

regulate bumpfire stocks like machine guns. Other than that there is not much to do to prevent a motivated person from carrying out a well planned attack like this guy.

[ducks]

The Las Vegas Death Toll Happens Every MONTH In Chicago

[Pavlov]

Serious here, I would like to hear your proposal as well. I always like to see both sides of the coin before it's flipped.I'd ban all these mods that practically make guns full auto. If they want to try that manual bumpfire shit let them do it.


If you are not asking me why are you expecting me to answer for someone else?Why would anyone need a nuclear missile in his personal stockpile?

[Pavlov]

regulate bumpfire stocks like machine gunsSo grandfather all the existing ones in and let them circulate?

What is the justification for keeping them in circulation at all?

[SpursforSix]

The Las Vegas Death Toll Happens Every MONTH In Chicago

Sure, but it doesn't mean you need to pee on children.

[whitemamba]

The Las Vegas Death Toll Happens Every MONTH In Chicago

Smh

[Spurminator]

The Las Vegas Death Toll Happens Every MONTH In Chicago

You should stop pretending to care about Chicago gang violence, no one is buying it.

Unless you have an idea for a solution to curb gang violence. Is it more guns for gangs?

[Pavlov]

You should stop pretending to care about Chicago gang violence, no one is buying it.

Unless you have an idea for a solution to curb gang violence. Is it more guns for gangs?Trump solved all American carnage on inauguration day.

It was a miracle! Just like cutting his own taxes!

[Chucho]

I'd ban all these mods that practically make guns full auto. If they want to try that manual bumpfire shit let them do it.


Fair enough, thank you.

[Chucho]

You should stop pretending to care about Chicago gang violence, no one is buying it.

Unless you have an idea for a solution to curb gang violence. Is it more guns for gangs?

Well, I guess if they all kill each other, the problem is gone.

[Blake]

Murders to control turf. Alcohol poisoning due to rot gut and bathtub brews.

I like how you avoided death by gunfire. Nice work.

[Chucho]

I like how you avoided death by gunfire. Nice work.

Umm, that would be "murders to control turf", no?

[Blake]

How are we going to protect our 1st Amendment rights?

Loldmc

[Blake]

Umm, that would be "murders to control turf", no?

Would it? It's your stat, you tell me.

[spurraider21]

You should stop pretending to care about Chicago gang violence, no one is buying it.

Unless you have an idea for a solution to curb gang violence. Is it more guns for gangs?
No, no. Ducks always invokes Chicago after Muslim shootings too!

[Chucho]

But still, you missed the point of the analogy. "Death by gunfire" will increase if an ugly black market opens up due to a super-strict gun control movement.

No one will give a shit because a lot of the bodies that pile up will be on the other side of the border...that's a lie, actually...people will give a shit once one of their political heroes point it out and they can condescend to the other side. Surprised that hasn't happened yet with all the bodies that pile up on the other side right now...guess everyone is too busy pretending to be good people about everything else...

[Pavlov]

The Times has done exceptional work the past couple days. Here's a comparison between the firing rates in Vegas, Orlando and a full auto M-16.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/02/us/vegas-guns.html

[spurraider21]

Other than that there is not much to do to prevent a motivated person from carrying out a well planned attack like this guy.
So these mass shootings are just... Part and parcel of living in the US?

[Chucho]

Would it? It's your stat, you tell me.

You told me I "avoided" to mention death by gunfire. So the dots you're connecting don't make the picture you saw? Good work.

[TSA]

So grandfather all the existing ones in and let them circulate?

What is the justification for keeping them in circulation at all?

Require regulation on the ones currently in circulation. Machine guns are heavily regulated and you've never seen a mass murder with one.

[Blake]

But still, you missed the point of the analogy. "Death by gunfire" will increase if an ugly black market opens up due to a super-strict gun control movement.

No one will give a shit because a lot of the bodies that pile up will be on the other side of the border...that's a lie, actually...people will give a shit once one of their political heroes point it out and they can condescend to the other side. Surprised that hasn't happened yet with all the bodies that pile up on the other side right now...guess everyone is too busy pretending to be good people about everything else...

Where are you getting all this from? Or is it a guess

[Pavlov]

So these mass shootings are just... Part and parcel of living in the US?


¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[ducks]

The Times has done exceptional work the past couple days. Here's a comparison between the firing rates in Vegas, Orlando and a full auto M-16.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/10/02/us/vegas-guns.html
too bad they did not work that hard to bash the former president like they do trump

[Blake]

You told me I "avoided" to mention death by gunfire. So the dots you're connecting don't make the picture you saw? Good work.

You mentioned gut rot. Was that really a big killer because of prohibition? How many people died of gut rot?

[Pavlov]

Require regulation on the ones currently in circulation. Machine guns are heavily regulated and you've never seen a mass murder with one.Why not just ban them and get rid off all the ones out there. What is the point of keeping them in circulation at all?

[Chucho]

You mentioned gut rot. Was that really a big killer because of prohibition? How many people died of gut rot?

Gut rot liquor, sweetie.

[Pavlov]

too bad they did not work that hard to bash the former president like they do trump*ding*

[Blake]

Why not just ban them and get rid off all the ones out there. What is the point of keeping them in circulation at all?

Muh ar-15 2nd amendment forum rights

[Chucho]

Where are you getting all this from? Or is it a guess

Yep, you connected your own dots and saw something. Keep it up.

[Blake]

Gut rot liquor, sweetie.

How many people died of gut rot liquor, buttercup?

[spurraider21]

Why not just ban them and get rid off all the ones out there. What is the point of keeping them in circulation at all?
How else am I supposed to defeat the US military if the government becomes a tyranny?

[Chucho]

How many people died of gut rot liquor, buttercup?
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT1OZrexcvDQdossg39BCWweuCbbsJfx v7rVYPcqQbm3veiwhQN

[Blake]

Yep, you connected your own dots and saw something. Keep it up.

I see you're just talking out your ass like I thought you were. Keep it up, buttercup

[Chucho]

How else am I supposed to defeat the US military if the government becomes a tyranny?

The same way Fascist Antifa fights "fascists"?

[Pavlov]

How else am I supposed to defeat the US military if the government becomes a tyranny?The only reason I have the freedom of speech is DMC's implicit threat to murder me with a gun.

[ducks]

Marilou Danley, widely reported to be Las Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock’s girlfriend, was still a public mystery on Tuesday morning, but some details were starting to emerge after digging by the Reno Gazette-Journal and other newspaper-based sites.

Initially, Danley was named by authorities a "person of interest" in connection with Sunday’s shooting outside the Mandalay Hotel where 59 people were killed and more than 500 injured, the Gazette-Journal noted.

[Chucho]

I see you're just talking out your ass like I thought you were. Keep it up

LOL, nice try. What's talking out my ass?

Death rate increased during Prohibition, which was a black market created by booze control. Death by gunfire and by alcohol poisoning from shit alchy. Death went up like 70 or so %. Pretty simple, not much left to be misconstrued. You found a way. Good work.

[spurraider21]

The same way Fascist Antifa fights "fascists"?
*ding*

You/Darrin keep bringing up antifa as if anyone here supports or defends them

[Chucho]

*ding*

You/Darrin keep bringing up antifa as if anyone here supports or defends them


LOL, blue text. Blue text shoulda been in there.

[Chucho]

LOL, so funny how you can be basically in agreement with people and they still think partisanship is the underlying reason for discussion.

[TSA]

So these mass shootings are just... Part and parcel of living in the US?

Yes we are just lucky they are few and far between

[Pavlov]

Yes we are just lucky they are few and far betweenYeah, we're lucky we've only had 270 instances of 4+ being shot this year.

[TSA]

Why not just ban them and get rid off all the ones out there. What is the point of keeping them in circulation at all?

You could ban them but how do you think you could get rid of all of the ones out there?

[spurraider21]

Yes we are just lucky they are few and far between
:lol shits on part and parcel comment when comes from muzzy mayor, but agrees it's a good description of the US

[TSA]

Yeah, we're lucky we've only had 270 instances of 4+ being shot this year.

You know exactly the type of mass shootings I'm talking about.

[Pavlov]

You could ban them but how do you think you could get rid of all of the ones out there?How do you think you could regulate all the ones out there?

[Pavlov]

You know exactly the type of mass shootings I'm talking about.Exactly what type of mass shootings are you talking about and why are we lucky there are hundreds that only involved 4+ victims?

[TSA]

:lol shits on part and parcel comment when comes from muzzy mayor, but agrees it's a good description of the US

Are terror attacks in Europe few and far between?

[TSA]

How do you think you could regulate all the ones out there?

Never said you could.

[TSA]

Exactly what type of mass shootings are you talking about and why are we lucky there are hundreds that only involved 4+ victims?
Not the types included in the stats you are quoting (gang shootings/domestic violence), the type that happened in Vegas, Orlando, Columbine etc.

[Spurminator]

Are terror attacks in Europe few and far between?

By your earlier definition, yeah.

[Pavlov]

Never said you could.But that's your proposal.

You're proposing something you don't even think would be effective?

[Pavlov]

Not the types included in the stats you are quoting (gang shootings/domestic violence), the type that happened in Vegas, Orlando, Columbine etc.You'll have to give me an exact definition so we can work up some stats and make a TSA luck-o-meter to tell us how thankful to be.

[Pavlov]

Suite pictures leaking. Look legit and awful.

[Blake]

LOL, nice try. What's talking out my ass?

Death rate increased during Prohibition, which was a black market created by booze control. Death by gunfire and by alcohol poisoning from shit alchy. Death went up like 70 or so %. Pretty simple, not much left to be misconstrued. You found a way. Good work.

So basically you're saying if we try to prohibit guns because of all the shooting deaths, we will actually increase the number of shooting deaths.

Like by 70% or so.

K.

[Splits]

915312667103039488

[TSA]

You'll have to give me an exact definition so we can work up some stats and make a TSA luck-o-meter to tell us how thankful to be.

Random targeting of 4+ victims not gang/domestic violence related.

[TSA]

But that's your proposal.

You're proposing something you don't even think would be effective?

Yes I think my method of regulating them like machine guns would be effective as the frequency of them being used in mass shootings so far is a grand total of 1. How are you going to get rid of all the ones already in circulation? How much would confiscation cost? What percentage of people do you think would turn them in?

[Chucho]

So basically you're saying if we try to prohibit guns because of all the shooting deaths, we will actually increase the number of shooting deaths.

Like by 70% or so.

K.

LOL, sure. You go from "you're talking out your ass" on the statistics and then take that rebuttal to try and put words in my mouth. Good work.

[Pavlov]

Random targeting of 4+ victims not gang/domestic violence related.So the others just don't count as gun violence? The Plano shooting doesn't count at all because an ex-husband was the shooter? I'm trying to understand your reasoning here.

[Spurminator]

Yeah I don't see how you can remove gang and domestic violence from the equation unless you think every one of those instances would have been replicated with a knife or car otherwise.

[TSA]

Suite pictures leaking. Look legit and awful.

The picture of that fucker Paddock leaking out of his head was pleasant.

[Pavlov]

Yes I think my method of regulating them like machine guns would be effective as the frequency of them being used in mass shootings so far is a grand total of 1. How are you going to get rid of all the ones already in circulation?Buyback.
How much would confiscation cost?Depends.
What percentage of people do you think would turn them in?Dunno. Willing to try.

How much would registration cost and what percentage of people do you think would have them registered?

Why do you think people need these devices in the first place?

[Blake]

LOL, sure. You go from "you're talking out your ass" on the statistics and then take that rebuttal to try and put words in my mouth. Good work.

I'm still sure you're talking out of your ass. I'm just showing you the picture after your dots are connected.

It's pretty stupid, tbh.

[TSA]

So the others just don't count as gun violence?

The Plano shooting doesn't count at all because an ex-husband was the shooter? I'm trying to understand your reasoning here.[/QUOTE]Of course they are all gun violence. In your mind is there really no difference between what happened in Las Vegas and what happens on the streets of Chicago on a weekly basis?

[Pavlov]

Of course they are all gun violence. In your mind is there really no difference between what happened in Las Vegas and what happens on the streets of Chicago on a weekly basis?Other than the fact that you're so jaded about it you just use it as a political football, no. It just looks like an attempt to distract from the total gun violence this nation experiences as a whole.

You say this stuff happens in Chicago all the time but the very first time you even suggest some regulation on just a modification to existing guns is after a shooting involving some people you know. Now something needs to be done?

[TSA]

Buyback. Depends. Dunno. Willing to try.

How much would registration cost and what percentage of people do you think would have them registered?

Why do you think people need these devices in the first place?Most gun owners would just keep them illegally rather then do a buyback. Registration would cost less than confiscation I can guarantee you that. California has a massive list of illegal person's with handguns and there is not much they can do about it to make a dent in the list. Registration would also come with a tax stamp so you are off setting the set up of registration to begin with. I think more people would register than do a buyback.

People don't need them, but some people find them fun. And 99.99% of people haven't used them to kill anyone.

[spurraider21]

Most gun owners would just keep them illegally rather then do a buyback. Registration would cost less than confiscation I can guarantee you that. California has a massive list of illegal person's with handguns and there is not much they can do about it to make a dent in the list. Registration would also come with a tax stamp so you are off setting the set up of registration to begin with. I think more people would register than do a buyback.

People don't need them, but some people find them fun. And 99.99% of people haven't used them to kill anyone.
I've been told gun control only stops good people from getting guns. So in the event a buyback was implemented, are all these illegal gun owners by definition bad people?

[Pavlov]

Most gun owners would just keep them illegally rather then do a buyback. Registration would cost less than confiscation I can guarantee you that. California has a massive list of illegal person's with handguns and there is not much they can do about it to make a dent in the list. Registration would also come with a tax stamp so you are off setting the set up of registration to begin with. I think more people would register than do a buyback.Why would they bother registering if they think it's the first step to confiscation like the propaganda always says?


People don't need them, but some people find them fun. And 99.99% of people haven't used them to kill anyone.Personal nuclear weapons haven't killed one person.

[Chucho]

I'm still sure you're talking out of your ass. I'm just showing you the picture after your dots are connected.

It's pretty stupid, tbh.

Keep reaching. You can't grab what wasn't there.

[benefactor]

:lol this thread...and ducks has officially reached a new low. Didn't think that was possible.

[TSA]

Other than the fact that you're so jaded about it you just use it as a political football, no. It just looks like an attempt to distract from the total gun violence this nation experiences as a whole.

You say this stuff happens in Chicago all the time but the very first time you even suggest some regulation on just a modification to existing guns is after a shooting involving some people you know. Now something needs to be done?

You asked me what I think should be done, I didn't come into this thread crying about bumpfire stocks because I knew people at the concert. This is literally the first mass shooting we've ever seen with a bumpfire stock, were you constantly writing your representatives asking for them to be banned before this happened? Did you do anything to get them confiscated before this happened? They've been around for years.

[Chucho]

Personal nuclear weapons haven't killed one person.

There's a fart joke to be made there about Taco Cabana or something to do with fat Mexicans and San Antonio. SpursforSix territory, I'll leave it to him...