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10-04-2017, 10:53 PM
From another thread....
My take on the current situation:
1) No one is beating G/s the next 2 seasons unless of injury + There is no guarantee in a series against OKC / HOU
2) The good news in 2 years is we have a clear payroll & kawhi is 28 so we will get a good 5 year window to contend.
2) Because of this we need to find out about DJ/White/Kyle (i think Bertan's is safe) as soon as possible.
4) i expect that Kawhi will have allot of opportunity to initiate the offense & work on his play-making during this 2 year down time.
In a nut shell what i'm saying is the next 2 seasons are basically a throw away and for me personally being a 3-6 seed is not enough.
We need to seriously consider moving green for a young asset if the right opportunity presents itself to position ourselves for Kawhi's prime.
The only other way i can see us contending is if DJ somehow becomes a rebounding mini ball-hawk Kawhi on D that we can sick on curry and other pg's + score when the offense breaks down.
It's a lot to expect for a 2nd year player and has little chance of happening but i say throw him in the fire & give him the opportunity that Tony had so we can evaluate his progression.
would anyone like to add their thoughts on the above?
What i'm proposing (throwing away 2 seasons for development) is a tough pill to swallow since we have the best player in the league atm.
If this should be a green topic i should discuss in here then the question is do we explore trade opportunities and shop him around for a young asset or pick this season while his value is at it's highest?
fwiw i hope what transpired brings out some other long time lurkers to come up with some fresh takes on the current issues.
dream scenario would be if we could get some of the old posters back (even for a quick minute) back to offer their thoughts on what direction we should take.
i understand now that posters already have firm beliefs on player(s) / direction of the team and when someone new (slightly immature - i'll admit the youtube post was unnecessary but i couldn't stop myself) challenged some of these idea's it ruffled some feathers.
i'm not kidding when i say this place used to rival any NBA related board you could find online & by far the best source for spurs info.
Hoping the board has seen enough now to know that i am who i say and that their is no agenda with anybody.
Do we hold onto him so we can remain competitive in OCK / HOU series?
i agree with many he is currently an elite 3/D role player.
My case is he has 3-4 years at best remaining at that level which doesn't match with the Kawhi window since he's 30? and won't improve. Defense is usually the first thing to drop off from an aging player but if he takes a low contract and bench/mentor role for whoever the replacement is i wouldn't be mad.
Just i would like to see us shop him and look for opportunities. The problem is he's a player only contending teams would likely be interested in, so now that Cleveland is out i can't think of many other possibilities unless its to provide vet experience to a young team.
i'm pretty sure Philly would have given us an asset for him before taking on Reddick for 20Mil for example.
These are my questions to the board and what i am interested in the most. What direction would you take?
There no right or wrong answer here so this is a non controversial thread.
I'm not going to be able to post enough to do daily posts after games (especially pre-season) with a proper take....the last game i saw maybe 5 mins total
My take on the current situation:
1) No one is beating G/s the next 2 seasons unless of injury + There is no guarantee in a series against OKC / HOU
2) The good news in 2 years is we have a clear payroll & kawhi is 28 so we will get a good 5 year window to contend.
2) Because of this we need to find out about DJ/White/Kyle (i think Bertan's is safe) as soon as possible.
4) i expect that Kawhi will have allot of opportunity to initiate the offense & work on his play-making during this 2 year down time.
In a nut shell what i'm saying is the next 2 seasons are basically a throw away and for me personally being a 3-6 seed is not enough.
We need to seriously consider moving green for a young asset if the right opportunity presents itself to position ourselves for Kawhi's prime.
The only other way i can see us contending is if DJ somehow becomes a rebounding mini ball-hawk Kawhi on D that we can sick on curry and other pg's + score when the offense breaks down.
It's a lot to expect for a 2nd year player and has little chance of happening but i say throw him in the fire & give him the opportunity that Tony had so we can evaluate his progression.
would anyone like to add their thoughts on the above?
What i'm proposing (throwing away 2 seasons for development) is a tough pill to swallow since we have the best player in the league atm.
If this should be a green topic i should discuss in here then the question is do we explore trade opportunities and shop him around for a young asset or pick this season while his value is at it's highest?
fwiw i hope what transpired brings out some other long time lurkers to come up with some fresh takes on the current issues.
dream scenario would be if we could get some of the old posters back (even for a quick minute) back to offer their thoughts on what direction we should take.
i understand now that posters already have firm beliefs on player(s) / direction of the team and when someone new (slightly immature - i'll admit the youtube post was unnecessary but i couldn't stop myself) challenged some of these idea's it ruffled some feathers.
i'm not kidding when i say this place used to rival any NBA related board you could find online & by far the best source for spurs info.
Hoping the board has seen enough now to know that i am who i say and that their is no agenda with anybody.
Do we hold onto him so we can remain competitive in OCK / HOU series?
i agree with many he is currently an elite 3/D role player.
My case is he has 3-4 years at best remaining at that level which doesn't match with the Kawhi window since he's 30? and won't improve. Defense is usually the first thing to drop off from an aging player but if he takes a low contract and bench/mentor role for whoever the replacement is i wouldn't be mad.
Just i would like to see us shop him and look for opportunities. The problem is he's a player only contending teams would likely be interested in, so now that Cleveland is out i can't think of many other possibilities unless its to provide vet experience to a young team.
i'm pretty sure Philly would have given us an asset for him before taking on Reddick for 20Mil for example.
These are my questions to the board and what i am interested in the most. What direction would you take?
There no right or wrong answer here so this is a non controversial thread.
I'm not going to be able to post enough to do daily posts after games (especially pre-season) with a proper take....the last game i saw maybe 5 mins total