Long term outlook (Green related also)

[ceds]

From another thread....

My take on the current situation:

1) No one is beating G/s the next 2 seasons unless of injury + There is no guarantee in a series against OKC / HOU
2) The good news in 2 years is we have a clear payroll & kawhi is 28 so we will get a good 5 year window to contend.
2) Because of this we need to find out about DJ/White/Kyle (i think Bertan's is safe) as soon as possible.
4) i expect that Kawhi will have allot of opportunity to initiate the offense & work on his play-making during this 2 year down time.

In a nut s what i'm saying is the next 2 seasons are basically a throw away and for me personally being a 3-6 seed is not enough.

We need to seriously consider moving green for a young asset if the right opportunity presents itself to position ourselves for Kawhi's prime.

The only other way i can see us contending is if DJ somehow becomes a rebounding mini ball-hawk Kawhi on D that we can sick on curry and other pg's + score when the offense breaks down.

It's a lot to expect for a 2nd year player and has little chance of happening but i say throw him in the fire & give him the opportunity that Tony had so we can evaluate his progression.

would anyone like to add their thoughts on the above?

What i'm proposing (throwing away 2 seasons for development) is a tough pill to swallow since we have the best player in the league atm.

If this should be a green topic i should discuss in here then the question is do we explore trade opportunities and shop him around for a young asset or pick this season while his value is at it's highest?

fwiw i hope what transpired brings out some other long time lurkers to come up with some fresh takes on the current issues.

dream scenario would be if we could get some of the old posters back (even for a quick minute) back to offer their thoughts on what direction we should take.

i understand now that posters already have firm beliefs on player(s) / direction of the team and when someone new (slightly immature - i'll admit the youtube post was unnecessary but i couldn't stop myself) challenged some of these idea's it ruffled some feathers.

i'm not kidding when i say this place used to rival any NBA related board you could find online & by far the best source for spurs info.

Hoping the board has seen enough now to know that i am who i say and that their is no agenda with anybody.

Do we hold onto him so we can remain compe ive in OCK / HOU series?

i agree with many he is currently an elite 3/D role player.

My case is he has 3-4 years at best remaining at that level which doesn't match with the Kawhi window since he's 30? and won't improve. Defense is usually the first thing to drop off from an aging player but if he takes a low contract and bench/mentor role for whoever the replacement is i wouldn't be mad.

Just i would like to see us shop him and look for opportunities. The problem is he's a player only contending teams would likely be interested in, so now that Cleveland is out i can't think of many other possibilities unless its to provide vet experience to a young team.

i'm pretty sure Philly would have given us an asset for him before taking on Red for 20Mil for example.

These are my questions to the board and what i am interested in the most. What direction would you take?

There no right or wrong answer here so this is a non controversial thread.

I'm not going to be able to post enough to do daily posts after games (especially pre-season) with a proper take....the last game i saw maybe 5 mins total

[spurs10]

I think PATFO are open to considering any scenario and anyone not named Kawhi is a possiblility of being moved if it will make the team better. I think it's entirely possible and even likely that Green was part of various trades we were looking into for Kyrie and Chris Paul this summer. However they are not going to give him away for nothing, as he is half of one the best defensive wing duos in the game. His defense is why he's here. If he can start making baskets he will be quite an asset. The scrimmage he was knocking them down only to miss everything in the first pre-season game. He's do for a better year I'm thinking.

As far as the next two seasons being throwaways, I think anything can happen. Sure GSW are favorites unless they get injured. We were looking pretty good ourselves before Kawhi, Tony, and Lee got injured. If Curry and Cupcake get hurt are the Warriors still favorites?

[ceds]

Would you be for or against sacrificing 2 seasons to develop the "young guns" (to see which out of the bunch stick / fast-track development)?

I'm interested in your opinion on this.

[dabom]

Would you be for or against sacrificing 2 seasons to develop the "young guns" (to see which out of the bunch stick / fast-track development)?

I'm interested in your opinion on this.

[RD2191]

OP is a got.

[ceds]

Are you phobic?

it's 2017...grow up re

[apalisoc_9]

Are you phobic?

it's 2017...grow up re

Where did he say he was?

You're just a got...and that's ok.

[ceds]

Ive shared enough about my personal life to dismiss this belief that i am someone else.

Like i said to the doc....put up $$$$ or OFF

[ceds]

Where did he say he was?

You're just a got...and that's ok.

FFS not one single HYPE THREAD like you and the board is frozen right now.....This is weak...and it wasn't even my intention.

Ive shared enough about my personal life to dismiss this belief that i am someone else.

Like i said to the doc....put up $$$$ or OFF

Hopefully tonight when i come back this thread has some substance to it.

EDIT: - noted you didn't take me up on the offer

CBF making a sig but it should be.... "Quiet as a church"

[Arcadian]

Spurs were blowing out the Warriors in the WCF before Kawhi's injury. Remember that.

[ceds]

Spurs were blowing out the Warriors in the WCF before Kawhi's injury. Remember that.

Noted:

Kawhi has that Kobe/MJ Gene and i can't ever dismiss him.

That said, it's clearly not a fair fight right now vs G/S (for anyone in the L...maybe CLE can give them a run this season?).

In 4 years when KD / Curry are early 30's...that will change & kawhi will still be in prime

[ceds]

Thanks for looking out / warning (it's kept me on guard for a couple of days now)

iT was not something i had considered at all....who knows wtf would have gone down had you not mentioned it .

[dabom]

Thanks for looking out / warning (it's kept me on guard for a couple of days now)

iT was not something i had considered at all....who knows wtf would have gone down had you not mentioned it .

Keep it up brah. Can't be worse than some of these other posters.

[picnroll]

Winter is coming.

[ceds]

Winter is coming.

All i can say is i hope it's a positive.

if i wake up tomorrow with more of this i'll go back to lurking....i legit don't care + have shown that i can contribute here in topics/debates + the merch.

i have no interest in being a big personality (or replacing the previous that left) here.

And the only time ill come at a poster is if im clearly provoked....not by trolls....but by the kind of stuff that's happened the last few days

[sananspursfan21]

Are you phobic?

it's 2017...grow up re

Because saying “re ” is way less offensive than saying “ got”

[ceds]

Because saying “re ” is way less offensive than saying “ got”

i have no interest in being a big personality (or replacing the previous that left) here.

And the only time ill come at a poster is if im clearly provoked....not by trolls....but by the kind of stuff that's happened the last few days

[RD2191]

OP is a...... got.

[ducks]

funny gs was suppose to beat cavs then cavs came back and beat them in finals a couple years ago
gs is not a lock
if one player gets injured like curry,kd,green or Thomas they are not nearly as good

[Ice009]

funny gs was suppose to beat cavs then cavs came back and beat them in finals a couple years ago
gs is not a lock
if one player gets injured like curry,kd,green or Thomas they are not nearly as good

This is why I don't ever agree about throwing away any seasons. Anything can happen and then you've got a chance to win it all. Spurs still do have a chance, but it's not worth throwing away any of those chances to punt a year or two IMO.

[SAGirl]

This is why I don't ever agree about throwing away any seasons. Anything can happen and then you've got a chance to win it all. Spurs still do have a chance, but it's not worth throwing away any of those chances to punt a year or two IMO.

They can't really punt seasons with an MVP candidate in their team. He'd have to be out the entire season.

[Horse]

Gay-state is a collection of mentally weak es put some heat on them and they will fold. They've been able to overwhelm teams with their talent, but keep it close and they will crumble.

[Prose]

all this talk of "nobody is going to beat GSW for 2+"....all i am saying is wouldnt has that losers mentality bc history is literally agaistn them at this point. we saw how miami was in 14' in their 4th straight trip to the finals, admittedly that was an older team, however at some point that has to catch up to them (one would hope). I am just hoping they tire out at some point...the spurs won rings 15 years apart with the same star, in part, bc they weren't playing until june every single year. one can only hope

[coachmac87]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=268902


Spurs need to do whatever it takes in this 2-3 year window while Pop is around and Kawhi is entering ELITE status...

Worry about the rest later

[DrSteffo]

We have no real "young guns" and that´s the problem. I hope Leonard and the vets will keep winning some games and that we will find some real talent instead of below average players that can play in the nba but will be below average and only fun for fangirls/boys.