Star Wars: The last Jedi *** SPOILERS, probably ***

[djohn2oo8]

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[lefty]

No superhero, won't watch

[Kim Jong-il]

I’ve been thoroughly underwhelmed by every preview for this so far.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

EDP won't stand for this shit, this shit fuckin sucks

[Chinook]

I'm thinking Finn's gonna be dreaming for most of those scenes. As cool as it would be to see him be a non-Jedi using a lightsaber, I don't buy it. Might even be some mental conditioning that he's resisting.

Still excited for the book to come out, though.

[leemajors]

I'm thinking Finn's gonna be dreaming for most of those scenes. As cool as it would be to see him be a non-Jedi using a lightsaber, I don't buy it. Might even be some mental conditioning that he's resisting.

Still excited for the book to come out, though.

I thought that was one of the anti lightsaber stormtrooper weapons?

[Chinook]

I thought that was one of the anti lightsaber stormtrooper weapons?

You're right. That's what I get for watching the trailer on my phone.

[Silver&Black]

While I won't go as far as to say that episode 7 was a "bad" movie.....

The acting is just awful in it. Now I also understand that Star Wars isn't a franchise that is known for their Best Actor/Actress Oscar Nominations. But, C'mon Man.

Neither Finn nor Rey can act a lick. It's like watching Hayden Christensen play Anakin Skywalker all over again. How those two got the leading roles in this epic franchise is beyond me.

[lefty]

I think Daisy Ridley can act tbh.

Christensen wasn't the problem, Fagnakin was poorly written

[monosylab1k]

While I won't go as far as to say that episode 7 was a "bad" movie.....

The acting is just awful in it. Now I also understand that Star Wars isn't a franchise that is known for their Best Actor/Actress Oscar Nominations. But, C'mon Man.

Neither Finn nor Rey can act a lick. It's like watching Hayden Christensen play Anakin Skywalker all over again. How those two got the leading roles in this epic franchise is beyond me.

They were both bad, and also way way way way better than Hayden Christensen or Natalie Portman.

Anakin & Padme is like top 10 worst acting performances in movie history. They’re so bad it’s almost on par with The Room. Finn & Rey is just standard medicore acting.

[spurraider21]

Christensen wasn't the problem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqTilCyRyvc

[Chinook]

They were both bad, and also way way way way better than Hayden Christensen or Natalie Portman.

Anakin & Padme is like top 10 worst acting performances in movie history. They’re so bad it’s almost on par with The Room. Finn & Rey is just standard medicore acting.

None of this is a problem in the books.

[benefactor]

I'll see it, but I'm not all that excited for reasons stated already tbh

[monosylab1k]

None of this is a problem in the books.

Yeah, except for the fact that you're a fucking cheesedick reading Star Wars novelizations.

Listen, I'm all for people who would rather read the book than watch the movie.....if the book came first. But preferring a book that's based on a movie, and refusing to watch the movie, is like a top 5 faggiest thing I've ever heard of in my life.

[Chinook]

Yeah, except for the fact that you're a fucking cheesedick reading Star Wars novelizations.

Listen, I'm all for people who would rather read the book than watch the movie.....if the book came first. But preferring a book that's based on a movie, and refusing to watch the movie, is like a top 5 faggiest thing I've ever heard of in my life.

I've seen parts of FA and R1. But I enjoyed reading/listening to the audiobook at my own pace. The novelization for R1 has gotten a lot of praise for how much more depth it gave the characters. Less lines, more character development, being able to do other things while listening, high production value that's not dependent on acting or special effects -- it's just a really nice experience.

Can't be nearly as gay as that program shtick you used to have.

[monosylab1k]

I've seen parts of FA and R1. But I enjoyed reading/listening to the audiobook at my own pace. The novelization for R1 has gotten a lot of praise for how much more depth it gave the characters. Less lines, more character development, being able to do other things while listening, high production value that's not dependent on acting or special effects -- it's just a really nice experience.

Can't be nearly as gay as that program shtick you used to have.

.....hmmm, nope. Bragging online about reading a Star Wars book adaptation because you’re too good for the movie it’s based on is definitely faggier. Now grab a tissue and blot those eyes, you don’t want to get your books all wet.

[Chinook]

.....hmmm, nope. Bragging online about reading a Star Wars book adaptation because you’re too good for the movie it’s based on is definitely faggier. Now grab a tissue and blot those eyes, you don’t want to get your books all wet.

They're audiobooks. But I'm only bragging to mess with ya. :reading

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu-jyoBGsUU

[Spurtacular]

While I won't go as far as to say that episode 7 was a "bad" movie.....

The acting is just awful in it. Now I also understand that Star Wars isn't a franchise that is known for their Best Actor/Actress Oscar Nominations. But, C'mon Man.

Neither Finn nor Rey can act a lick. It's like watching Hayden Christensen play Anakin Skywalker all over again. How those two got the leading roles in this epic franchise is beyond me.

Neither were as close to as bad as Hayden Christensen. It's like they took some noob who had bombed in his one high school play and gave him the part without even auditioning him. To this day, I still can't believe the incompetence in casting him.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-NDbEyBk3s

[140]

No superhero, won't watch

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

https://movieweb.com/the-last-jedi-early-reactions-positive/

First reactions overwhelmingly positive.

[StrengthAndHonor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqTilCyRyvc
:lol

[benefactor]

https://movieweb.com/the-last-jedi-early-reactions-positive/

First reactions overwhelmingly positive.
So were the ones for Rogue One, but that movie was nothing to write home about

[djohn2oo8]

So were the ones for Rogue One, but that movie was nothing to write home about
Some calling this one the best Star Wars film since Empire Strikes back is a pretty damn high bar but I guess we will see.

[vy65]

So were the ones for Rogue One, but that movie was nothing to write home about

Rogue One is easily the best post-original trilogy movie.

[benefactor]

Actually, it was pretty forgettable. A bunch of regurgitated ideas and outside of Forest Whitaker, a bunch of characters I didn't give a shit about.

[Trainwreck2100]

Some calling this one the best Star Wars film since Empire Strikes back is a pretty damn high bar but I guess we will see.

best since empire is not that high a bar. Bar's pretty low

[djohn2oo8]

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[djohn2oo8]

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[redzero]

All right, you baby.

[monosylab1k]

^Well at this point I should know to avoid movie threads like they're the plague until after I watch it. I only have myself to blame.

[Darth_Pelican]

Going tonight at 10:30pm, IMAX 3D

Will be back here after to spam the thread with spoilers

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Star Wars has a fairly high shit rate when you consider eps 1-3 were shit and ep 7 was essentially a scene by scene remake.

But 90% other movies are beyond shit so it'll still be a huge hit :lol

[Spurminator]

I hope we're done with all of the silly "OMG she's his sister, he's her son, Anakin built C3PO, etc." reveals.

It's well past ridiculous that everyone of any significance in this story seems to be related.

[Texas_Ranger]

3rd worse for me. Only infront of Clones and Menace.

[vy65]

Good movie, that was not. Steaming pile of shit, it was.

[Phenomanul]

There are scenes where Finn is in First Order attire... and then in the next scene he is wearing his leather jacket... how?

[monosylab1k]

Other than Disney putting annoying little bird aliens in the movie to sell toys, and one incredibly stupid moment with Leia, this movie was terrific. Way better than Force Awakens.

[Phenomanul]

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Why go through all the hassle, grief and loss of life in trying to make a run on both Death Stars and Star Killer base if all you had to do was ram them with a star cruiser at hyperspeed to destroy them?

[monosylab1k]

Yeah, these morons would rather shoot at something instead of just going kamikaze at it every time! How stupid!

[Phenomanul]

Astromech droids can do that... autopilot even... no loss of life required...

[Spurminator]

I hope we're done with all of the silly "OMG she's his sister, he's her son, Anakin built C3PO, etc." reveals.

It's well past ridiculous that everyone of any significance in this story seems to be related.

I liked how they handled this.

[Kim Jong-il]

Astromech droids can do that... autopilot even... no loss of life required...
Wow that would have been awesome. Should redo the whole series, rename it “Computer Suicide Bombings for 2 Hours” and watch the box office numbers skyrocket!

[monosylab1k]

Thinking on it more, Finn has no purpose in this movie. His entire subplot could have been removed and the movie would be immensely better.

[UZER]

Thinking on it more, Finn has no purpose in this movie. His entire subplot could have been removed and the movie would be immensely better.

Same for Poe. He ran around screwing everything up which ultimately amounted to a big zero in actual story progression. The only thing that moved his story forward was probably taking over for Leia as leader of the resistance in the next movie.

Oh and....flying Leia :lol

[UZER]

Never in my life did I ever think I would watch a star wars movie that would end with a kid holding a broom.

[illusioNtEk]

damn he died :(

[Phenomanul]

Same for Poe. He ran around screwing everything up which ultimately amounted to a big zero in actual story progression. The only thing that moved his story forward was probably taking over for Leia as leader of the resistance in the next movie.

Oh and....flying Leia :lol

Why didn't the Laura Dern character just tell everyone what the plan was from the get-go...? What was critically important about keeping the plan from your fellow resistance fighters? Could they not be trusted? Spy issues? Plausible deniability in case of capture?

The resistance fleet being chased for several hours also bothered me... like seriously? They couldn't catch up with more modern spacecraft?

[da_suns_fan]

I thought it was pretty weak.


The good:

Adam Driver and Daisey Ridley. Thought they were excellent and their story and chemistry was good.

Mark Hamill - Seemed to be having fun. Obviously knew this would probably be the last movie he'll ever do.

The surprises: There were lots of em and it kept things pretty fun.

The Bad:

The entire Fynn/Benecio-Del-Toro story was just boring.

Their plot/plan kept shifting/changing every ten minutes.

That rebel planet/base appearing out of nowhere was incredibly stupid.

The BB-8 driving the AT-ST was also stupid.

Also, I know this is suppose to leave the good guys at their lowest point, but it seems the entire "resistance" was small enough to all fit on the Millenium Falcon?

"Supreme Leader Snoke" is gone. Barely even knew him. Where the hell did he come from?

Cartoon ghost Yoda...meh.

I still have no idea where "the first order" came from, who funds their ships, what happened to "the republic" etc.

Basically the good-guys managed to stay alive through pure luck. Their was no Han Solo improving etc.

The worst part had to be Laura Dern. What the HELL was she doing in a star wars movie?

JJ Abrahams did it better. This film needed a real writer. Not some stupid writer/director bullshit.

[DMC]

Lucas could video his turd coming from his asshole, call it something like "Return of the Floater" and geeks would be fawning over it.

I've yet to see anything he's made that's worth a shit. The entire Star Wars set is basically B rated trash. He couldn't carry Spielberg's jock strap.

[lil'mo]

When anything animatronic gets ‘milked’ quite that graphically, and it’s not a cow....you’ve lost me. But my kids liked it ��

[UZER]

I am not one of those it's cool to hate what everyone likes dude. I'm a big star wars fan.

But this movie was straight garbage. I'm mean, throughout the movie I kept thinking, what the hell is the point? This thing is just a mess. They're were some really cool individual moments, but this was NOT a star wars movie. It was a movie with the star wars name on in it.

Rian Johnson just took a huge shit on everything OT, especially the mystic of the jedi, and even worse, he justified it by using Yoda to do it. And all because he wanted to do something "different".

Just bad overall.

And do even get me started on the Marvel 'insert random joke here' routine syndrome.

[hater]

Thanks fr d reviews nigrels

I knew this movie was gonna suck

Hated the previous one and the one previous to that was so mediocre

Not to kention the episodes 1-3 were a shitfest


Still I only consider the original episodes 4-6 as the only real star wars films ever

Fuck disney they are finished as a studio

[monosylab1k]

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[monosylab1k]

Fuck disney they are finished as a studio

:lmao

I agree that Disney sucks but this is just a retarded comment. They literally own like 40% of the movie market now.

[da_suns_fan]

I am not one of those it's cool to hate what everyone likes dude. I'm a big star wars fan.

But this movie was straight garbage. I'm mean, throughout the movie I kept thinking, what the hell is the point? This thing is just a mess. They're were some really cool individual moments, but this was NOT a star wars movie. It was a movie with the star wars name on in it.

Rian Johnson just took a huge shit on everything OT, especially the mystic of the jedi, and even worse, he justified it by using Yoda to do it. And all because he wanted to do something "different".

Just bad overall.

And do even get me started on the Marvel 'insert random joke here' routine syndrome.

The first "Crank call" one was really, really stupid.

[monosylab1k]

We’ll never know, but it feels to me like Rian Johnson had a lot of influence on the whole Rey/Kylo/Luke story, while Disney executives forced a Finn subplot to sell toys, forced big name cameos with no purpose just to flex their muscles, and forced a lot of the unnecessary comedy.

I still liked it a lot, and there some incredible moments, but this one is frustrating because it could have been so much better.

[UZER]

The first "Crank call" one was really, really stupid.

Followed immediately in the next scene by Luke tossing the saber. Just forced humor. It felt like that was something from an SNL skit.

It would've been much more powerful if he just dropped it slowly walked away, or just gave it back and walked away.

[Trill Clinton]

if finn is back on his space simp/janitor shit i don't want to see it. i bet that nigga woke up from that coma screaming Reeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyy!!!!

[djohn2oo8]

We’ll never know, but it feels to me like Rian Johnson had a lot of influence on the whole Rey/Kylo/Luke story, while Disney executives forced a Finn subplot to sell toys, forced big name cameos with no purpose just to flex their muscles, and forced a lot of the unnecessary comedy.

I still liked it a lot, and there some incredible moments, but this one is frustrating because it could have been so much better.

I loved it as well. It just seems it was held back because JJ and Rian had two different visions. Like in TFA Snoke was built up to be the mythical power only for Rian to do what he did with him.

[djohn2oo8]

I loved what he did with Rey and Kylo though

[djohn2oo8]

And while I like TFA, it was not better than TLJ.

[hater]

:lmao

I agree that Disney sucks but this is just a retarded comment. They literally own like 40% of the movie market now.

Sure and they are buying fox studios which will give them 85% of the markt but you also got amazon and netflix pushing loads of stuff and eventually Will destroy them in the streaming business. And the movie theatre scheme will eventually die off like shopoing malls

[monosylab1k]

Followed immediately in the next scene by Luke tossing the saber. Just forced humor. It felt like that was something from an SNL skit.

It would've been much more powerful if he just dropped it slowly walked away, or just gave it back and walked away.

I think hamming it up for comedy missed the mark, but Luke tossing the lightsaber works better because it emphasizes just how he wants nothing to do with it, and doesn’t even want that thing in his sight. If anything, maybe have him turn around and hurl it into the ocean. It would get a laugh and make the point even better.

[johnsmith]

Loved the movie....had lots of cheese in it, but wgaf? It’s Star Wars so it’s entertaining as shit....everyone griping about how bad it is are the same people that complain about everything, all the time, always because internet.

[johnsmith]

I think hamming it up for comedy missed the mark, but Luke tossing the lightsaber works better because it emphasizes just how he wants nothing to do with it, and doesn’t even want that thing in his sight. If anything, maybe have him turn around and hurl it into the ocean. It would get a laugh and make the point even better.


That woulda been funnier....I still laughed though, and so did my daughter, so if a movie can make a 38 year old and a 5 year old laugh, then I’m fine with it./

[UZER]

941984277209772032

That's too easy.

Im not against taking things in a different direction. But you can do that without completely shitting on the lore like RJ did.

[monosylab1k]

That's too easy.

Im not against taking things in a different direction. But you can do that without completely shitting on the lore like RJ did.

How did he shit on the lore?

And either way, there's no way Rian Johnson shit on the lore any harder than George Lucas already did -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

[UZER]

How did he shit on the lore?

And either way, there's no way Rian Johnson shit on the lore any harder than George Lucas already did -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWaLxFIVX1s

Yes, I agree George did. I hate the prequels.

George messed up because it became all about the effects. He lost sight the of the characters in the story. He was too much of a kid in a toy store.

Rian, just messed everything period. It's a jumbled mess and change for the sake of change. Ill try to explain more later.

[da_suns_fan]

1) Why did they have Luke be a "projection" of himself? They ended up killing him anyway two seconds after revealing it wasnt really him so what was the point of that? Simply to add a twist?

2) Obi Wan (Ewan McGregor) should have visited Luke instead of Yoda. He has more experience in dealing with student who turn to the dark side. That would have removed need for cartoon yoda as well.

3) Fynn and Asian chick are capable of escaping capital ship and hyper-spacing away (and then coming back). Why doesnt everyone the ship simply do that? Get into the transport ships and hyperspace to twenty different locations?

5) From a timeline perspective, the film is suppose to pick up immediate where last one ended. The Republic, then, has basically no fleet. No Army. No defenses etc? Where did Snoke come from? Where did the first order come from? We could have used a little more exposition and a little less dumb subplots of mutiny.

6) Why use children as slaves to sweep stuff? Isnt that what droids are for? That entire casino subplot was terrible. Didnt look like Star Wars. Looked more like "Hunger games". As did Laura Dern's ridiculous hair.

7) Leiah Poppins is a lowpoint for the franchise. Good luck explaining how she's dead in the next film yet is simply indestructible in space.

Now for some good stuff

1) Adam Driver can freaking act. They were calling him "better Anakin" in a video series after TFA and it really shows how good the prequels could have been with better script.

2) I actually kind of like Rey's parents are nobodies but it adds a question as to why the cut away from the bar scene in TFA when that orange chick asked Han Solo "So who's the girl?"

3) I'd say all the actors in the film minus Laura Dern were really good. The plot was just bad. It reminded me of Jurrasic World and that "independence day" sequel in that had a plot that went back and forth from "bad" to "absurd".

[monosylab1k]

1) Why did they have Luke be a "projection" of himself? They ended up killing him anyway two seconds after revealing it wasnt really him so what was the point of that? Simply to add a twist?

One of the first things Luke says is that it would be stupid to expect him to leave the island and take on the entire First Order by himself. The whole point was for him to distract Kylo Ren from chasing down and snuffing out what's left of the Resistance. Which is hard to do when you're dead after 1000 shots from AT-ATs.

[leemajors]

Yes, I agree George did. I hate the prequels.

George messed up because it became all about the effects. He lost sight the of the characters in the story. He was too much of a kid in a toy store.

Rian, just messed everything period. It's a jumbled mess and change for the sake of change. Ill try to explain more later.

A lot of what he did was very consistent with Clone Wars, Star Wars Rebels and all the newer stuff.

Luke was Yoda's student, not Obi Wan's.

[UZER]

One of the first things Luke says is that it would be stupid to expect him to leave the island and take on the entire First Order by himself. The whole point was for him to distract Kylo Ren from chasing down and snuffing out what's left of the Resistance. Which is hard to do when you're dead after 1000 shots from AT-ATs.

Luke deserved better than projection. It would've been epic, and believable, for Luke Skywalker and only Luke Skywalker, the most famous and legendary jedi of all time, who has already defeated the first empire and Vader, and spent years at the original jedi temple, to be able to withstand that barrage, and walk out without harm. Then, give himself up to Kylo like Obi-Wan to come full circle with his story. It cheapend the end for me when it turned out to be a projection. I just think he deserved better than that.

It's not something he would be able to do over and over and be indestructible, but just one time someone all his strength to withstand that heavy artillery onslaught.

[djohn2oo8]

Luke deserved better than projection. It would've been epic, and believable, for Luke Skywalker and only Luke Skywalker, the most famous and legendary jedi of all time, who has already defeated the first empire and Vader, and spent years at the original jedi temple, to be able to withstand that barrage, and walk out without harm. Then, give himself up to Kylo like Obi-Wan to come full circle with his story. It cheapend the end for me when it turned out to be a projection. I just think he deserved better than that.

It's not something he would be able to do over and over and be indestructible, but just one time someone all his strength to withstand that heavy artillery onslaught.

Just how exactly was Luke going to leave the Island? He fucked with Kylo's head in two ways. One, looking as young as he did the night he tried to kill him. And then using Anakin's lightsaber that was destroyed. The point was made very well. He could never get rid of him and he was only fighting himself.

[angrydude]

What a competently made shitty movie. Its' like Transformers in space. No depth, no narrative structure, no reason to care. It had a few good ideas that went completely undeveloped so they could spend more time advertising their new line of plush toys. Oh, also, it's Marxist (so communist basically) propaganda pushed by the biggest most powerful media company on earth. The true irony.

[UZER]

Just how exactly was Luke going to leave the Island? He fucked with Kylo's head in two ways. One, looking as young as he did the night he tried to kill him. And then using Anakin's lightsaber that was destroyed. The point was made very well. He could never get rid of him and he was only fighting himself.

Getting him off the island is not hard if he's reluctantly, but willing, to go with Rey instead of being a coward like they made him out to be. Now I know why Hamill had such issues with the way they wrote him.

You don't think physically being there with the green light Saber, the one Kylo saw his life flash before his eyes with, And taking thinking he's going to take Luke out, only to realize Luke gave himself up to the force, would have been and even bigger mind job on Kylo? And that's after surviving the At-At assault.

[da_suns_fan]

One of the first things Luke says is that it would be stupid to expect him to leave the island and take on the entire First Order by himself. The whole point was for him to distract Kylo Ren from chasing down and snuffing out what's left of the Resistance. Which is hard to do when you're dead after 1000 shots from AT-ATs.

Lets say he actually did go there, took on the entire order by himself, used force to protect himself from ATATs (why not...leia can fly through space) and is struck down by Kylo Ren like Obi-Wan was (disappearing), creating a distraction so that the rest of the resistance could escape. What difference would it make?

Why tease us with "Luke is dead! No he's not! Yes he is?!" What was the point of that?

[da_suns_fan]

Just how exactly was Luke going to leave the Island? He fucked with Kylo's head in two ways. One, looking as young as he did the night he tried to kill him. And then using Anakin's lightsaber that was destroyed. The point was made very well. He could never get rid of him and he was only fighting himself.

X-wing fighter they SHOWED submerged in the water.

[Reck]

Is this movie that bad? It's getting killed on user reviews on Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes.

The critics reviews are loving it though. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Is this movie that bad? It's getting killed on user reviews on Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes.

The critics reviews are loving it though. :lol

No its not. Hardcore star war fans are just pissed that it wont focus much on the Skywalker clan anymore.

[UZER]

Lets say he actually did go there, took on the entire order by himself, used force to protect himself from ATATs (why not...leia can fly through space) and is struck down by Kylo Ren like Obi-Wan was (disappearing), creating a distraction so that the rest of the resistance could escape. What difference would it make?

Why tease us with "Luke is dead! No he's not! Yes he is?!" What was the point of that?

Exactly. That's the finish Luke deserved. Not some projection version of himself.

[monosylab1k]

Luke Skywalker, the most famous and legendary jedi of all time

Well only because he was the only Jedi around at the time. He literally just became a Jedi at the end of ROTJ, after a lot of failures and a battle with the Dark Side. To act like his destiny after ROTJ is to be a dominant Jedi badass for 30+ years is completely unrealistic. What’s more realistic would be Luke never being able to achieve the levels of his past successes, and to slowly decline. The Luke we see in TLJ is a completely unromantic, worst case scenario Luke, but it is certainly more believable than the deification of Luke that many people had in their minds.

[monosylab1k]

Is this movie that bad? It's getting killed on user reviews on Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes.

The critics reviews are loving it though. :lol

Not as good as the critics say, not nearly as bad as the fanboys say. Worth watching.

[JMarkJohns]

Other than Disney putting annoying little bird aliens in the movie to sell toys, and one incredibly stupid moment with Leia, this movie was terrific. Way better than Force Awakens.

This. Porgs are mostly stupid, and Leia in space was definitely the weakest moment. But everything people are bitching about beyond those two things are everything this franchise needed. Flipped the script and made it new again. Didn’t pander to the fanboys who wanted regergitated beatification nostalgia.

[UZER]

Nah, forget the fan boy stuff. It's completely incoherent and 80% of what happens proves to be completely useless to the story.

Not just a bad Star wars movie, just a bad movie overall.

[leemajors]

X-wing fighter they SHOWED submerged in the water.

for 30 years submerged, no droid to run the ship? cmon dude.

[leemajors]

Nah, forget the fan boy stuff. It's completely incoherent and 80% of what happens proves to be completely useless to the story.

Not just a bad Star wars movie, just a bad movie overall.

I was on an edible and it was very coherent.

[angrydude]

I was on an edible and it was very coherent.

If this wasn't a Star Wars movie NOBODY would like it. Nobody at all. If this was a DC Comics movie about Superman it would be destroyed in the press.

[monosylab1k]

If this wasn't a Star Wars movie NOBODY would like it. Nobody at all. If this was a DC Comics movie about Superman it would be destroyed in the press.

Why would DC make a movie about Superman in space with lightsabers? Of course nobody would like that.

[angrydude]

Why would DC make a movie about Superman in space with lightsabers? Of course nobody would like that.

Way to be intentionally obtuse.

[angrydude]

This movie is of the same quality as Transformers. The plot, pacing, direction, and humor are baffling.

[monosylab1k]

Way to be intentionally obtuse.

Your post made no sense. It’s not like Star Wars movies haven’t been savaged by critics, and plenty of DC movies have gotten glowing reviews.

[djohn2oo8]

People just whining for no reason. There's only so many movies that Luke can be the main focus.

[UZER]

People just whining for no reason. There's only so many movies that Luke can be the main focus.

Your imply something that's not even being argued. Nobody is saying Luke should have been the main focus.

The way he was handled is just ONE for the issues some have with the movie. It was just a poorly written role for such a big character in the saga.

But Luke acted his ass off on his role and deserves credit for that.

[da_suns_fan]

Except R2D2 who played him that message (unless he was on millenium falcon....dont remember).

[monosylab1k]

1. Redemption story for a once great Jedi, who could never live up to his former glory, failed miserably in training his nephew, and lives in exile hating himself, but then gets one last chance to do something great.

OR

2. Ultimate badass kicks everyone’s asses. The End.

And y’all think #1 is the lazy idea? :lol what you were hoping for Luke’s story to be is literally what Prequels Era George Lucas would have thought up.

[Raven]

you can't defend this movie and still have any sort of credibility. Then again, I kinda get that people are just really waking up to how truly damaging and flat out awful TFA was, now that they see that all those plot points that looked like teasers, were really bad writing and none of that was other than fans justifying the movie to themselves. People have been accepting mediocrity for too long.

[monosylab1k]

Don’t worry guys, Fast and Furious 9 will be out before you know it. I’m sure Vin Diesel won’t die or have an existential crisis, he’ll just drive a big ass car and blow shit up like he has for 8 other movies. That should keep you happy.

[Chucho]

Don’t worry guys, Fast and Furious 9 will be out before you know it. I’m sure Vin Diesel won’t die or have an existential crisis, he’ll just drive a big ass car and blow shit up like he has for 8 other movies. That should keep you happy.

Why so angry about this?

[monosylab1k]

Why so angry about this?

:lmao still asshurt weeks later.

[Chucho]

:lmao still asshurt weeks later.

No. Asking why you're so mad about people feeling different than you about this episode.

And why would I be mad at you having to deny Mel Gibson was shunned? Youre the one who had to "get me" by logging into one of your dozens of alts to reach, misinterpret something to call me a "coffee snob". Editing quotes and alts shows deep rooted anger issues.

But still, LOL. :depressed "People don't feel the same way I do. RAGE" :depressed

[Chucho]

"Mods...make him take down his post. He spoiled a Star Wars movie for me. :depressed"

:lol

[monosylab1k]

:lmao still asshurt weeks later.

[Chucho]

"Mods...make him take his post down.":lmao

"You don't feel the same way I do about a movie and I don't know how to feel about that...except anger." :rollin

[Chucho]

You've got some issues, play. Go talk it out amongst your catalogue of alts.

[monosylab1k]

Yeah, you’re right. This place fucking blows now. See yall later.

[UZER]

Damn, I stayed away from spoilers so I didn't see this before, but Mark was spot on.

i0biqMZrxJ0

[lefty20]

X-wing fighter they SHOWED submerged in the water.

I think Luke was using one of it's wings as a door for his hut. I didn't actually catch this myself during the movie, just saw it mentioned in a article last night.

[lefty20]

As a casual Star Wars fan I thought the movie was quite enjoyable. Of course, I mainly went to the theater to catch the Infinity War trailer on a big screen, so everything after that was just gravy.

[djohn2oo8]

1. Redemption story for a once great Jedi, who could never live up to his former glory, failed miserably in training his nephew, and lives in exile hating himself, but then gets one last chance to do something great.

OR

2. Ultimate badass kicks everyone’s asses. The End.

And y’all think #1 is the lazy idea? :lol what you were hoping for Luke’s story to be is literally what Prequels Era George Lucas would have thought up.
They wanted Luke to come in and kick so much ass so like you said there would be no need for a third movie.

[djohn2oo8]

Also, had Snoke lived that would have been a rehash of Vader/Palpetine. No one walked into the theater and expected Kylo to slice that nigga up.

"But we didn't even have a chance to find out where he was from :cry"

[Raven]

Also, had Snoke lived that would have been a rehash of Vader/Palpetine. No one walked into the theater and expected Kylo to slice that nigga up.

"But we didn't even have a chance to find out where he was from :cry"

if anything, people have been eating turd sandwitches for too long and complaining too little.. I mean just the arguments you're making, sound like wwe apologists..

[Chinook]

People really seem to be hating on Finn and Rose. I actually liked both characters and thought they worked well together. It was cool that Finn still sucks at melee fighting (kept his character grounded) but it sucked that they didn't really give him anything to shoot at. To that extent, I do agree with what other folks are saying about their plot. It felt that most of the shit that happened was a waste of time. Had Rose just gone with Finn on his original plan to find Rey, that would have been preferable. Instead they are setting up this love triangle (seems pretty clear that Rey has jungle fever going on). I could see Rose and Finn getting together after the movie. They bounded and shit. But the whole "We're in love" aspect was really weird. I mean, the whole plot takes place over the course of one fucking day, give or take.

And yeah, TFA gave me the impression that the First Order was like a fascist group made from the remnants of the old Empire (which definitely fell, according to the the Battlefront II campaign). So how the hell are they about to take over the galaxy now?

[djohn2oo8]

if anything, people have been eating turd sandwitches for too long and complaining too little.. I mean just the arguments you're making, sound like wwe apologists..

":cry The Force Awakens played it too safe"

":cry The Last Jedi took too many chances"

[Raven]

":cry The Force Awakens played it too safe"

":cry The Last Jedi took too many chances"

yeah that's exactly it. You're literally making sure you like the taste of turd right now.. It's a concept called reframing.

[djohn2oo8]

yeah that's exactly it. You're literally making sure you like the taste of turd right now.. It's a concept called reframing.

Ah you're one of those whiny bitches who can't decide what they wanna see.

[Raven]

Ah you're one of those whiny bitches who can't decide what they wanna see.

far from it, i knew exactly what i wanted which is why i don't pay for disney movies and pirate the crap out of them. As far as I'm concerned, it is very clear that the focus of star wars, currently is not to develop characters, tell a story or have well directed action scenes. Also, I can tell when a studio has no idea what to do with a franchise. The Marvel stink is strong and undeniable.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Don’t worry guys, Fast and Furious 9 will be out before you know it. I’m sure Vin Diesel won’t die or have an existential crisis, he’ll just drive a big ass car and blow shit up like he has for 8 other movies. That should keep you happy.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

monosylab1k

I knew this shit. People have been creating troll acounts, multiple at a time to trash the movie on RT

https://movieweb.com/rotten-tomatoes-last-jedi-audience-score-fake-news/

[Spurminator]

The Leia space scene didn't really even bother me. I assume if a powerful Jedi can lift a ship out of water, they can also create enough force to pull themselves towards a ship in weightless space. Execution was a little cheesy, I guess, but that's a minor gripe. My only other issue was Luke was a little too curmudgeony, but then again he's old and he's been on an island by himself for years. Still a little surprised he'd abandon everyone he cares about while allowing a new Empire to rise, but that was a decision made in the last film, not this one.

I started dozing during the Finn/Rose scenes (12:30am showing), but overall I loved how the movie turned expectations on their heads. I already commented that I'm tired of all of the reveals that everyone is related, and the way they revealed that Rey is just the daughter of common smugglers after implying otherwise was perfect. Same with Kylo turning on Snoke out of power-thirst rather than personal redemption.

[vy65]

Well only because he was the only Jedi around at the time. He literally just became a Jedi at the end of ROTJ, after a lot of failures and a battle with the Dark Side. To act like his destiny after ROTJ is to be a dominant Jedi badass for 30+ years is completely unrealistic. What’s more realistic would be Luke never being able to achieve the levels of his past successes, and to slowly decline. The Luke we see in TLJ is a completely unromantic, worst case scenario Luke, but it is certainly more believable than the deification of Luke that many people had in their minds.

This would be a good take if the original trilogy wasn’t so caught up in the notion of destiny. To think Luke is some pitily bitch at the end of ROTJ totally discredits his narrative arc, and one of the most powerful motifs of the original three movies: kid coming from a backwoods planet and bringing down the empire. That and the fact that the intervening years sees him start a school for a new generation of Jedi.

I could see your point if they made Luke seem like some invinceable bad ass. But to make him seem like a shitty stand up comic, with ridiculous proclivities (lol milking teets), who’s constantly shook is absolutely disengenious to the character.

[vy65]

1. Redemption story for a once great Jedi, who could never live up to his former glory, failed miserably in training his nephew, and lives in exile hating himself, but then gets one last chance to do something great.

OR

2. Ultimate badass kicks everyone’s asses. The End.

And y’all think #1 is the lazy idea? :lol what you were hoping for Luke’s story to be is literally what Prequels Era George Lucas would have thought up.

Not too double up, but they did little to nothing to build up #1. A few cut scenes totalling less than 5 minutes of screen time is absolutely lazy. If this movie was dedicated to building that story line up then you’d be right because we’d be emotionally invested. As it stands, the necessary plot and character work for #1 was totall glossed over. And that’s why this story doesn’t work at all.

[vy65]

you can't defend this movie and still have any sort of credibility. Then again, I kinda get that people are just really waking up to how truly damaging and flat out awful TFA was, now that they see that all those plot points that looked like teasers, were really bad writing and none of that was other than fans justifying the movie to themselves. People have been accepting mediocrity for too long.

This. TFA was not nearly as good as people make it seem. And it’s all the more reason why Rogue One worked so well. New characters, with similar themes, but with a new perspective. It was true to the original trilogy while developing characters that you can become invested in.

A lot of people defend TLJ on the basis that “it’s new.” So what? Having a new approach to the trilogy doesn’t somehow inoculate you from telling a good story. And TLJ tells a particularly atrocious one.

[vy65]

":cry The Force Awakens played it too safe"

":cry The Last Jedi took too many chances"

Because it has to be one of those two. No other choices

[UZER]

Well only because he was the only Jedi around at the time. He literally just became a Jedi at the end of ROTJ, after a lot of failures and a battle with the Dark Side. To act like his destiny after ROTJ is to be a dominant Jedi badass for 30+ years is completely unrealistic. What’s more realistic would be Luke never being able to achieve the levels of his past successes, and to slowly decline. The Luke we see in TLJ is a completely unromantic, worst case scenario Luke, but it is certainly more believable than the deification of Luke that many people had in their minds.

Of course it's relevant to the current generation that is alive. Thats a given. Thats the story and time line we're in. Everyone in the galaxy knows who Luke Skywalker is after he took down Vader and the Emperor. So yes, to the people alive, he is the most legendary Jedi ever. Some even think he's just a legend period.

And I'm cool with Luke being on the island, a little grumpy and crazy from being there so long. I'm even ok with him being reluctant to leave the island, especially to go fight, because he's been kooked up for so long. But he should have been there growing his powers all these years. I mean, then why the hell did he go THAT island I'm the first place? That's how a bad ass Luke ending could've taken place, because he was studying alone all these years and developed beyond anything ever seen. He was, after all, the son of the chosen one.

The whole 'he almost killed Kylo' is stupid and unlike Luke too. I mean, the dude went face to face and redeemed Darth freaking Vader. Why would he think about killing a nephew he was entrusted to train, when Kylo hadnt even done anything yet? Because he had bad thoughts? Just a dumb, unbelievable plot line for Luke.

Vin Diesel isn't Luke Skywalker, and the F&F isn't Star Wars. There are thing you can make 'unromantic', but doing it to an icon of the past 40 years is dismissive to everything that's come before. It comes across as doing something different just to do something different. It's not genuine.

[leemajors]

This would be a good take if the original trilogy wasn’t so caught up in the notion of destiny. To think Luke is some pitily bitch at the end of ROTJ totally discredits his narrative arc, and one of the most powerful motifs of the original three movies: kid coming from a backwoods planet and bringing down the empire. That and the fact that the intervening years sees him start a school for a new generation of Jedi.

I could see your point if they made Luke seem like some invinceable bad ass. But to make him seem like a shitty stand up comic, with ridiculous proclivities (lol milking teets), who’s constantly shook is absolutely disengenious to the character.

Yes, he came from a backwoods planet, brought down the empire, and now he's supposed to know how to train a new generation of Jedi because he spent a few weeks with Yoda?

[vy65]

Yes, he came from a backwoods planet, brought down the empire, and now he's supposed to know how to train a new generation of Jedi because he spent a few weeks with Yoda?

Those are some pretty strong credentials, so yes.

Regardless, I’d need his potential failures explored before giving a fuck either way. Why do you gloss over that entire backstory?

[vy65]

And on a complete side note; wtf was up with Hux. The first movie made him seem like the second coming of Hitler. TLJ has him getting trolled as “general Hugs” by XWing Jerky Boy’s?

[monosylab1k]

monosylab1k

I knew this shit. People have been creating troll acounts, multiple at a time to trash the movie on RT

https://movieweb.com/rotten-tomatoes-last-jedi-audience-score-fake-news/

:lmao and all the lemmings on this site fell for it and formed their opinions accordingly.

[monosylab1k]

But seriously, fuck SpursTalk.

[vy65]

Of course it's relevant to the current generation that is alive. Thats a given. Thats the story and time line we're in. Everyone in the galaxy knows who Luke Skywalker is after he took down Vader and the Emperor. So yes, to the people alive, he is the most legendary Jedi ever. Some even think he's just a legend period.

And I'm cool with Luke being on the island, a little grumpy and crazy from being there so long. I'm even ok with him being reluctant to leave the island, especially to go fight, because he's been kooked up for so long. But he should have been there growing his powers all these years. I mean, then why the hell did he go THAT island I'm the first place? That's how a bad ass Luke ending could've taken place, because he was studying alone all these years and developed beyond anything ever seen. He was, after all, the son of the chosen one.

The whole 'he almost killed Kylo' is stupid and unlike Luke too. I mean, the dude went face to face and redeemed Darth freaking Vader. Why would he think about killing a nephew he was entrusted to train, when Kylo hadnt even done anything yet? Because he had bad thoughts? Just a dumb, unbelievable plot line for Luke.

Vin Diesel isn't Luke Skywalker, and the F&F isn't Star Wars. There are thing you can make 'unromantic', but doing it to an icon of the past 40 years is dismissive to everything that's come before. It comes across as doing something different just to do something different. It's not genuine.

This.

[monosylab1k]

The whole 'he almost killed Kylo' is stupid and unlike Luke too. I mean, the dude went face to face and redeemed Darth freaking Vader. Why would he think about killing a nephew he was entrusted to train, when Kylo hadnt even done anything yet? Because he had bad thoughts? Just a dumb, unbelievable plot line for Luke.

So in 30+ years a person can’t change? Nobody is the same at 60 as they are at 20. Hell nobody is the same at 30 as they are at 20. Just because he did great things 30 years earlier doesn’t mean he’s incapable of making a poor decision ever again. And he never “decided” to kill Kylo, he had a momentary lapse in judgement that he immediately corrected. Kinda like that time he almost killed Darth Vader right before changing his mind. And it’s not that Kylo had done “nothing”, it’s made pretty clear that he was already under Snoke’s influence.

Just because YOU personally didn’t want this for Luke doesn’t mean it isn’t an authentic, realistic storyline for him.


There are thing you can make 'unromantic', but doing it to an icon of the past 40 years is dismissive to everything that's come before.

Luke still accomplished everything he did, nobody went in the past and erased it. Is Michael Jordan’s entire legacy somehow a failure because he sucks at being an owner?

[angrydude]

:lmao and all the lemmings on this site fell for it and formed their opinions accordingly.

So much denial. This movie was shit. It's the type of movie where the more you think about it the shittier it gets.

[howbouthemspurs]

The Last Jedi was an amazing movie! I loved every bit of it!

[ColinB]

And I'm cool with Luke being on the island, a little grumpy and crazy from being there so long. I'm even ok with him being reluctant to leave the island, especially to go fight, because he's been kooked up for so long. But he should have been there growing his powers all these years. I mean, then why the hell did he go THAT island I'm the first place? That's how a bad ass Luke ending could've taken place, because he was studying alone all these years and developed beyond anything ever seen. He was, after all, the son of the chosen one.

You must have missed the whole projection thing.

[leemajors]

Those are some pretty strong credentials, so yes.

Regardless, I’d need his potential failures explored before giving a fuck either way. Why do you gloss over that entire backstory?

If they'd cut out the entire casino thing and explored that further I would have been fine with it, but it seems like it could be its own movie/novel. The Skywalkers in general seem to be halfass teachers to their students - Anakin/Ahsoka, Luke/Ben.

[Spurtacular]

Snowflake Wars, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqTilCyRyvc

How did they not reshoot his parts with a new actor, honestly? Shit, they should've saw this in the first day in the fucking cutting room.

[Spurtacular]

The Leia space scene didn't really even bother me. I assume if a powerful Jedi can lift a ship out of water, they can also create enough force to pull themselves towards a ship in weightless space. Execution was a little cheesy, I guess, but that's a minor gripe.

How come she only saved herself? That's a pretty big oversight, imo.

[Texas_Ranger]

LOL @ Leia Superman scene. She'd be dead in a second, as would anyone, if they were to be sucked out in space. So, they made her use the force, when she was dead already. I could count 100 problems with this retarded movie, but that would just frustrate me even more.

[lefty20]

LOL @ Leia Superman scene. She'd be dead in a second, as would anyone, if they were to be sucked out in space.

More like at least 15-30 seconds, assuming you don't hold your breath.

Source - Pierce Brown and google.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

This. TFA was not nearly as good as people make it seem. And it’s all the more reason why Rogue One worked so well. New characters, with similar themes, but with a new perspective. It was true to the original trilogy while developing characters that you can become invested in.



+1 !!

[leemajors]

https://io9.gizmodo.com/hilariously-dumb-change-org-petitions-about-the-last-je-1821394256

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

LOL @ Leia Superman scene. She'd be dead in a second, as would anyone, if they were to be sucked out in space.
:lmao

i mean, these days all it takes is one quick google search before you post something stupid like this.

[Spurminator]

Seems kind of silly to nit-pick the realism of floating in space for a few seconds in a film where a dude teleports his image across the galaxy to interact with other people before vanishing into thin air.

[spurraider21]

Seems kind of silly to nit-pick the realism of floating in space for a few seconds in a film where a dude teleports his image across the galaxy to interact with other people before vanishing into thin air.
yeah.

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reminds me of Reck complaining that an ice-zombie dragon blowing fire wasn't a "magical" enough event to bring down the ice wall

[da_suns_fan]

I didnt have as much of a problem with the Luke/Rey/Kylo story as the other half of the movie.

THIS was the other half of the film:

A capital ship engages enemies and loses all of their bombers due to a poor decision by an ace pilot. The capital ship flees but cannot escape the enemy fleet due to a tracking device. So two characters ESCAPE to find a hacker who help the capital ship escape. Along the way they free some enslaved llamas. Another hero stages a mutiny on the capital ship to assist the plan. They make their way to an enemy ship to disable a tracker but are captured. No biggie. The peeps on the capital ship knew about a secret base nearby and didnt tell anyone else. So they just go there. But what about our characters who were captured? They manage to escape when Laura Dern kamikazees the capital ship into the enemy ship just as our heroes are about to be killed which then allows them to escape in an enemy ship to the secret base that they somehow know about. They get shot down by their friends but its okay, they live and manage to convince their friends theyre good guys. Then they make one last stand against the bad guys. They fly some speeders out to meet the bad guys but they just get picked off one by one. One of our heroes decides he's going to take out the bad guys even if it kills him but another character prevents this from happening by crashing her ship into his. Dont' worry, they both live. When all hope is lost, another character from the other half of the story shows up and creates a diversion for them to escape. Their actions supposedly inspires children to join their cause.

The "resistance" are a bunch of idiots. I was not inspired to "join". If i was part of the resistance, I would ask "how do i QUIT? This is a clusterfuck."

[Chinook]

Just too much truth. ^ Crazy that Finn and Poe didn't have a big shootout as the climax of their story.

They also set up Rey and Finn as being two souls trying to find each other across space but then forget for large chunks of time that that is their motivation (especially for Finn). They could have held two very different plots together had they actually kept that theme up. But fuck, they were on the same ship at the same time and still didn't meet up. WTF?

Abrams' decision to keep Poe alive has really fucked the series. Dude's not thematically interesting and has been negative to neutral narratively but still took the camera for like a quarter of the runtime.

[UZER]

Just too much truth. ^ Crazy that Finn and Poe didn't have a big shootout as the climax of their story.

They also set up Rey and Finn as being two souls trying to find each other across space but then forget for large chunks of time that that is their motivation (especially for Finn). They could have held two very different plots together had they actually kept that theme up. But fuck, they were on the same ship at the same time and still didn't meet up. WTF?

Abrams' decision to keep Poe alive has really fucked the series. Dude's not thematically interesting and has been negative to neutral narratively but still took the camera for like a quarter of the runtime.

But he's great at hamming it up. :cry

[Mark Celibate]

How did they not reshoot his parts with a new actor, honestly? Shit, they should've saw this in the first day in the fucking cutting room.

yeah that's pretty bad tbh. i don't even remember much of the prequels, but I'm not a Star wars guy at all

i just remember the insane hype of Episode I and the fight at the end of it was actually awesome at the time, imo. How did the hype of this new one compare to Phantom Menace?

[Spurtacular]

yeah that's pretty bad tbh. i don't even remember much of the prequels, but I'm not a Star wars guy at all

i just remember the insane hype of Episode I and the fight at the end of it was actually awesome at the time, imo. How did the hype of this new one compare to Phantom Menace?

Nothing will beat the hype of Phantom. People waiting a couple decades for that to come out. That's what made it extra sad, that they messed it up so badly. Mistakes would be arguably more understandable now at their current production line pace.

[Mark Celibate]

Nothing will beat the hype of Phantom. People waiting a couple decades for that to come out. That's what made it extra sad, that they messed it up so badly. Mistakes would be arguably more understandable now at their current production line pace.

Out of curiousity, what was the general consensus on why it was so bad? I only saw each of the prequels once when I was young and didn't really understand everything. tbh 2, 3 were sorta boring and blurred together. You could post some random YouTube clip from either movie and I wouldn't be able to tell which one it was from (other than when he transforms into Vader of course)

For some reason though, I actually liked 1 a lot. Probably a lot to do with the fact that I was only 9 or 10 and thought it was cool for retarded reasons like the pod race and darth maul :lol

[da_suns_fan]

L9hwGZFPSmw

[djohn2oo8]

Just too much truth. ^ Crazy that Finn and Poe didn't have a big shootout as the climax of their story.

They also set up Rey and Finn as being two souls trying to find each other across space but then forget for large chunks of time that that is their motivation (especially for Finn). They could have held two very different plots together had they actually kept that theme up. But fuck, they were on the same ship at the same time and still didn't meet up. WTF?

Abrams' decision to keep Poe alive has really fucked the series. Dude's not thematically interesting and has been negative to neutral narratively but still took the camera for like a quarter of the runtime.

Poe serves a better purpose than Finn. What is Finn's purpose other than shouting "Reyyyyyyy" . Finn had a chance to go out like a pimp and that stupid girl shoved him out the way. Pointless.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Out of curiousity, what was the general consensus on why it was so bad? I only saw each of the prequels once when I was young and didn't really understand everything. tbh 2, 3 were sorta boring and blurred together. You could post some random YouTube clip from either movie and I wouldn't be able to tell which one it was from (other than when he transforms into Vader of course)

For some reason though, I actually liked 1 a lot. Probably a lot to do with the fact that I was only 9 or 10 and thought it was cool for retarded reasons like the pod race and darth maul :lol

Phantom Menace is easily the best of the shitty prequels. Had a badass villain and Liam Neeson, and most importantly no Hayden Christiansen. Most people hated it because of Jar Jar Binks, but for me it’s easy to tune out all his scenes.

[spurraider21]

Revenge of the Sith had cool action sequences tbh. Phantom menace had the great ending but he was overall a shitty villain who’s character boiled down to “ i look really cool”

[Darth_Pelican]

Luke said that Kylo Ren burned the Jedi training temple down and killed most of the students, but brought some of them with him.

Where were the ones that he brought with him?

[djohn2oo8]

Luke said that Kylo Ren burned the Jedi training temple down and killed most of the students, but brought some of them with him.

Where were the ones that he brought with him?

Weren't some of them the royal guards?

[Darth_Pelican]

Weren't some of them the royal guards?

So the ones that Rey and him fought after killing the Snoke were them... yeah that makes sense. They were pretty good fighters.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Luke said that Kylo Ren burned the Jedi training temple down and killed most of the students, but brought some of them with him.

Where were the ones that he brought with him?
The Knights Of Ren probably

[Darth_Pelican]

The Knights Of Ren probably

Yeah... oversight on my part.

[UZER]

Then tell us the guards are Knights of Ren. Make that an important part of the story early on so when Kylo takes them on down, it has that much more impact. Make it to where now he's turning on and fighting his own crew. Instead it's just, hey he beat some dudes in red suits.

Just fails all the way around in this movie.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Then tell us the guards are Knights of Ren. Make that an important part of the story early on so when Kylo takes them on down, it has that much more impact. Make it to where now he's turning on and fighting his own crew. Instead it's just, hey he beat some dudes in red suits.

Just fails all the way around in this movie.

Nobody said the red guards were the Knights Of Ren.

[UZER]

Nobody said the red guards were the Knights Of Ren.

I know they didn't. But that's my point. If they were, it's a waste. If the weren't, then the fight against them was pointless eye candy. If we knew how tough the guards were, if they gave even a couple of lines of dialogue to explain, then it was a chance to show just how powerful Kylo is. Instead, there is Rey, also destroying them, and actually doing better the Kylo because he was in a choke hold.

My biggest problem with this movie, and there is so much wrong with it, is we don't know who's skill level is where. Kylo should be way more powerful than Rey because he was ACTUALLY jedi trained by Luke, and Snoke was also a mentor, which should make him that much more menacing. Rey should be growing to get where Kylo is. Instead, she has yet to be bested in anything. She's just too good at everything with zero training. She's already gone toe to toe twice vs Kylo.

It was somewhat ok in the first movie because it was hinted she has some lineage. Why else would Luke's lightsaber be calling to her? But this movie says she's nothing yet she's so powerful. It doesn't add up. Rian was so concerned with throwing everyone off the trail with every important plot point that it ended have no plot.

Abrams is going to have to pull Reys lineage back into the story to fix that in the next movie. Otherwise, we have no reason to care about Rey because she always win.

[Chinook]

Poe serves a better purpose than Finn. What is Finn's purpose other than shouting "Reyyyyyyy" . Finn had a chance to go out like a pimp and that stupid girl shoved him out the way. Pointless.

Nah. Poe has no point in the story. Finn is used improperly (and especially was in this last movie), but he's still clearly the other main character. The most significant thing Poe does is be that guy that has those awkward romantic moments with Rey.

[leemajors]

Then tell us the guards are Knights of Ren. Make that an important part of the story early on so when Kylo takes them on down, it has that much more impact. Make it to where now he's turning on and fighting his own crew. Instead it's just, hey he beat some dudes in red suits.

Just fails all the way around in this movie.

Why do you want everything explained? It's not like anything was explained at all in the original movies. Luke was a Jedi Knight after a few scenes after carrying Yoda around and getting scared in a cave, force ghosts appeared out of nowhere.

[Spurtacular]

Out of curiousity, what was the general consensus on why it was so bad? I only saw each of the prequels once when I was young and didn't really understand everything. tbh 2, 3 were sorta boring and blurred together. You could post some random YouTube clip from either movie and I wouldn't be able to tell which one it was from (other than when he transforms into Vader of course)

For some reason though, I actually liked 1 a lot. Probably a lot to do with the fact that I was only 9 or 10 and thought it was cool for retarded reasons like the pod race and darth maul :lol

Just go back and watch Phantom. It's hard to sit through ten minutes of any of it. Even most hardcore Stars Wars junkies tend to concede that. Just very poorly done.

But I wish George Lucas would have just stuck with his original direction for Jar Jar. He just needed to not make him so down annoying / tone him down in further movies. But instead, he succumbed to all the Jar Jar hate.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yy3q9f84EA

[UZER]

Why do you want everything explained? It's not like anything was explained at all in the original movies. Luke was a Jedi Knight after a few scenes after carrying Yoda around and getting scared in a cave, force ghosts appeared out of nowhere.

Everything? Lets start with some things.

Luke was not a Jedi until he beat Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi. He could barely lift rocks after training with Yoda, he sure a hell wasnt moving mountains hours later like Rey. So yes, some explaination is warranted.

[leemajors]

Everything? Lets start with some things.

Luke was not a Jedi until he beat Vader at the end of Return of the Jedi. He could barely lift rocks after training with Yoda, he sure a hell wasnt moving mountains hours later like Rey. So yes, some explaination is warranted.

He wasn't anywhere near as powerful as Rey, but whatever.

[redzero]

The movie was entertaining but a lot of it was stupid. Finn and Rose's sideplot served no purpose whatsoever. Luke didn't teach Rey anything and died for no reason. Poe should be in handcuffs. Leia's Superman moment was embarrassing. Kylo Ren talks about doing away with the past, but then he just keeps doing what past Sith Lords do.

[UZER]

He wasn't anywhere near as powerful as Rey, but whatever.

Fine, how is Rey so powerful? Lineage would've been acceptable, but Rian Johnson purposefully shit on that too. I don't need an explaination for everything. But for the MAIN Hero, you do so you can care enough to go on the journey with them. Its just a problem with alot of movies nowadays.

Take the original Karate Kid for instance. By the time you get to the climax fight with Johnny and the Cobra Kai, you are all in emotionally. You are taking those blows with Daniel. You feel his need to overcome. If Laruso had just run around the whole movie kicking everyones ass, never losing a fight, you wouldn't give two shits about his fight with Johnny at the end. But he went through hell to get to the point at the end and you went through it with him.

JJ Abrams is going to have to walk that "you're a nobody" plot line back, or find a way to give legitimacy to her powers.

Not arguing with you btw, just having a discussion.

[leemajors]

Fine, how is Rey so powerful? Lineage would've been acceptable, but Rian Johnson purposefully shit on that too. I don't need an explaination for everything. But for the MAIN Hero, you do so you can care enough to go on the journey with them. Its just a problem with alot of movies nowadays.

Take the original Karate Kid for instance. By the time you get to the climax fight with Johnny and the Cobra Kai, you are all in emotionally. You are taking those blows with Daniel. You feel his need to overcome. If Laruso had just run around the whole movie kicking everyones ass, never losing a fight, you wouldn't give two shits about his fight with Johnny at the end. But he went through hell to get to the point at the end and you went through it with him.

JJ Abrams is going to have to walk that "you're a nobody" plot line back, or find a way to give legitimacy to her powers.

Not arguing with you btw, just having a discussion.

She's so powerful because the Force needs balance. You have two pretty powerful Sith/Dark Side users, and one Jedi who has closed himself off from the force, and another untrained Force sensitive in Leia? Maybe she's just an outlier. Personally, I think they had to break away from the everything is about Skywalker lineage at some point, it was getting a bit old. We don't really know anything about where Yoda, Kenobi, or any other Jedi came from lineage wise I don't think so I am not sure lineage needs to mean that much.

[Darth_Pelican]

Where did Snoke come from and who trained him?

[leemajors]

Where did Snoke come from and who trained him?


The Last Jedi Visual Dictionary has proved to be full of tantalizing facts about the Supreme Leader, but the latest revelation comes from The Last Jedi Visual Companion Magazine. As seen in a photo posted to Reddit, the first paragraph in Snoke’s entry confirms not only that the Supreme Leader is not of the Sith (which we already knew), but also that he has “at least one other apprentice.”


I'd imagine there will be more flashbacks in the next movie, maybe some more info about him.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

It would be interesting to see how people would view the Original Trilogy if they had been released in this era of internet critique. I’d bet those movies would have been picked apart to hell and a lot or Star Wars “fans” would talk about how stupid they are.

”Two droids walk through the middle of a gunfight and make it without a scratch?!?!?! How stupid! George Lucas should stop putting lame jokes in these movies!”

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

For example, these days C-3P0 would be the modern day Jar Jar Binks. He’s nonstop comic relief (slapstick, cornball, all the stuff Star Wars “fans” hate about TLJ’s humor) in the OT to the point of distraction, but he gets a pass that wouldn’t be given in the internet age.

[Spurtacular]

Finn and Rose's sideplot served no purpose whatsoever.

Sure it did. Affirmative action making the snowflakes happy.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Sure it did. Affirmative action making the snowflakes happy.
:lmao triggered by an Asian person.

[lefty]

What a piece of junk.

I geeked out a little when Yoda told Luke what he told him on Tattoine, but this movie was garbage

[lefty]

I was disappointed when Rose saved Finn.

Fuck

[Spurtacular]

What a piece of junk.

I geeked out a little when Yoda told Luke what he told him on Tattoine, but this movie was garbage

Social justice warriors ruining franchises. No surprise.

[lefty]

I meant Dagobah, not Tatooine

[Spurtacular]

I was disappointed when Rose saved Finn.

Fuck

Did that happen? I must've been off not giving a fuck, thinking about something else. I drearily remember it. I remember now that there was a cheesy line and an even cheesier kiss that went with it.

[Reck]

Did that happen? I must've been off not giving a fuck, thinking about something else. I drearily remember it. I remember now that there was a cheesy line and an even cheesier kiss that went with it.

You hit paused on that boycott to go watch a movie you’re not interested in whatsoever? How generous of you.

[Spurtacular]

You hit paused on that boycott to go watch a movie you’re not interested in whatsoever? How generous of you.

No boycott here, tranny. Stop manstrating on my shit.

[Reck]

No boycott here, tranny. Stop manstrating on my shit.

Fair enough, autist.

Continue to not care. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Fair enough, autist.

Continue to not care. :lol

Did you like the new star wars? Where does it rank on the tranny scale of from one to Rocky Horror Picture Show?

[Reck]

Did you like the new star wars? Where does it rank on the tranny scale of from one to Rocky Horror Picture Show?

Haven't seen it. I like these films overall though.

[lefty]

Did that happen? I must've been off not giving a fuck, thinking about something else. I drearily remember it. I remember now that there was a cheesy line and an even cheesier kiss that went with it.

Finn was going for a kamikaze run and Rose saved him in the last second

[Spurtacular]

Finn was going for a kamikaze run and Rose saved him in the last second

Oh yea. That in itself seemed pretty retarded and not very well done. They were charging those AT-STs for like ten minutes to get like a mile or so. :lol And then he obviously had no chance against like eight of them solo. Star Wars has really went to the shitter.

[redzero]

What the hell was Disney thinking by giving Rian Johnson so much creative control? The last two mainline Star Wars movies were obviously written by two different people with almost no overlap creatively whatsoever. JJ Abrams set up several things in The Force Awakens--with no payoffs written in advance--and Rian Johnson basically, "Nah, fuck all of that." Johnson took Abrams' vision, crushed it, and then handed the pieces back to him.

I really am curious how Abrams will respond.


Oh yea. That in itself seemed pretty retarded and not very well done. They were charging those AT-STs for like ten minutes to get like a mile or so. :lol And then he obviously had no chance against like eight of them solo. Star Wars has really went to the shitter.

Yeah, how the hell did Finn drag Rose all the way back to the fort so fast? And why did the bad guys let him?

[leemajors]

I don't know why they gave the third movie back to Abrams.

[UZER]

What the hell was Disney thinking by giving Rian Johnson so much creative control? The last two mainline Star Wars movies were obviously written by two different people with almost no overlap creatively whatsoever. JJ Abrams set up several things in The Force Awakens--with no payoffs written in advance--and Rian Johnson basically, "Nah, fuck all of that." Johnson took Abrams' vision, crushed it, and then handed the pieces back to him.

I really am curious how Abrams will respond.


Exactly!

Was TFA perfect? Hell no, but it did the job needed to do to.

Abrams had an extremely difficult job of bridging the gap between the OT and trilogy. He had to get the bad taste of the prequels out of everyone's mouth, while restoring faith in the Star Wars franchise. It did the job it needed to do overall.

Rian Johnson. What a dumbass. :lol

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

What the hell was Disney thinking by giving Rian Johnson so much creative control? The last two mainline Star Wars movies were obviously written by two different people with almost no overlap creatively whatsoever. JJ Abrams set up several things in The Force Awakens--with no payoffs written in advance--and Rian Johnson basically, "Nah, fuck all of that." Johnson took Abrams' vision, crushed it, and then handed the pieces back to him.

I really am curious how Abrams will respond.



Yeah, how the hell did Finn drag Rose all the way back to the fort so fast? And why did the bad guys let him?

Disney re-shot Gareth Edwards entire version of Rogue One because they didn’t like the tone, fired the Han Solo directors because they didn’t like where those guys were going with the film, and fired Colin Trevorrow only because his recent indie film sucked. Do you really think they just let Rian Johnson do whatever the hell he wanted?

Everything Rian Johnson did had the approval of Disney and Abrams. If not, he would have been fired and/or had his film neutered.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

http://i66.tinypic.com/2ilmpv7.jpg

[redzero]

I know that certain beats still had to be hit, since this is the second movie in a multi-billion dollar trilogy. The point I am making is that the first two movies having different writers is extremely noticeable and it makes Disney look like they don't know what they are doing. Abrams clearly wanted Luke to train Rey and made the shot of Luke and Rey in The Force Awakens the last shot for a reason... and the payoff was a gag where Luke throws his lightsaber over his shoulder and off a cliff (one of the many jokes that illicited almost no laughter from the audience I was watching the movie with).

Rey finding Luke had no pay off, because he didn't impart any kind of knowledge to her. He tells her one thing about the force and she leaves. He then sends his illusion across the galaxy to serve as unnecessary distraction, runs out batteries and dies. Was that Abrams had in mind as a follow up to the cliffhanger from TFA?

[leemajors]

So you expected certain things and they didn't happen? Abrams saw all the treatments, etc, and didn't have a problem with what Rian had planned.

[redzero]

I'm not bitching about my expectations being subverted; I'm bitching that what they were subverted with was stupid and pointless. Why even have Luke in the movie if he doesn't do anything? It's already a 2.5 hour long movie, so just take the stuff with Luke out and it will still be a 2 hours long. Seriously, judging the movie as a movie, what did the parts with Luke add? Having him train Rey with the lightsaber would have at least explained how she was able to kill half a dozen elite guards, but he didn't and she inexplicably can hold her own against them despite zero experience fighting with a lightsaber.

What exactly did the scenes with Luke accomplish other than being scenes with Luke in them? Take out him fishing, milking giant space sloths, moping around and refusing to help and the ending where he just dies as a distraction that wasn't needed, and The Last Jedi becomes a better movie.

I like The Last Jedi more than The Force Awakens not because it was a better constructed movie--it probably isn't upon rewatch--but it is more interesting overall. Some things were just not needed, though.

[leemajors]

I'm not bitching about my expectations being subverted; I'm bitching that what they were subverted with was stupid and pointless. Why even have Luke in the movie if he doesn't do anything? It's already a 2.5 hour long movie, so just take the stuff with Luke out and it will still be a 2 hours long. Seriously, judging the movie as a movie, what did the parts with Luke add? Having him train Rey with the lightsaber would have at least explained how she was able to kill half a dozen elite guards, but he didn't and she inexplicably can hold her own against them despite zero experience fighting with a lightsaber.

What exactly did the scenes with Luke accomplish other than being scenes with Luke in them? Take out him fishing, milking giant space sloths, moping around and refusing to help and the ending where he just dies as a distraction that wasn't needed, and The Last Jedi becomes a better movie.

I like The Last Jedi more than The Force Awakens not because it was a better constructed movie--it probably isn't upon rewatch--but it is more interesting overall. Some things were just not needed, though.

Gotcha. She didn't have any experience in the fist movie either, and managed to hold her own against Kylo. No training montages works for me. I liked the scenes with Luke too, but they aren't for everyone. The theater I was in was cheering at the end.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

That fight with the red guards she clearly looks like an unpolished fighter, and wins her fights more out of cleverness and resourcefulness than by simply outfighting the guards. She only beats Kyo Ren in TFA because he took a fucking bowcaster shot to the stomach beforehand.

[leemajors]

That fight with the red guards she clearly looks like an unpolished fighter, and wins her fights more out of cleverness and resourcefulness than by simply outfighting the guards. She only beats Kyo Ren in TFA because he took a fucking bowcaster shot to the stomach beforehand.

forgot about that.

[redzero]

That fight with the red guards she clearly looks like an unpolished fighter, and wins her fights more out of cleverness and resourcefulness than by simply outfighting the guards. She only beats Kyo Ren in TFA because he took a fucking bowcaster shot to the stomach beforehand.

One cannot separate "cleverness and resourcefulness" from "experience and skill." One naturally leads to the other. There was at least some justification for her defeat of Kylo in TFA, but why is she able to keep up with him, and arguably outperform him, in the fight with the guards despite having next to no experience? The movie had a chance to show Luke training her, and she was on that planet with him for almost two fucking hours, but it didn't. And it doesn't matter either, because practice and experience mean nothing if one is strong in the force. It doesn't matter if the guards are the best of the best with years of experience; she can wipe the floor with them despite barely ever using a sword before.

[lefty]

That film is frminazist , emasculating piece of shit.

Also, RIP Mark Hamill, Disney is going to shoot him after he clearly expressed how much he hates this movie.

Yes, TFA was a rehash, but at least it was a nice hommage to the original trilogy and it was fun.

Rian Faggotson clearly hates the Star Wars universe.

Also, I really liked Hux in TFA.

10 minutes into the Last Jedi and he becomes a retarded goofball comic relief.

[leemajors]

That film is frminazist , emasculating piece of shit.

Also, RIP Mark Hamill, Disney is going to shoot him after he clearly expressed how much he hates this movie.

Yes, TFA was a rehash, but at least it was a nice hommage to the original trilogy and it was fun.

Rian Faggotson clearly hates the Star Wars universe.

Also, I really liked Hux in TFA.

10 minutes into the Last Jedi and he becomes a retarded goofball comic relief.

he didn't say that, lmao

:cry det's not my skywalker :cry

[Spurtacular]

Yeah, how the hell did Finn drag Rose all the way back to the fort so fast? And why did the bad guys let him?

Details. They just gloss over them, willy-nilly.

[Spurtacular]

What the hell was Disney thinking by giving Rian Johnson so much creative control? The last two mainline Star Wars movies were obviously written by two different people with almost no overlap creatively whatsoever. JJ Abrams set up several things in The Force Awakens--with no payoffs written in advance--and Rian Johnson basically, "Nah, fuck all of that." Johnson took Abrams' vision, crushed it, and then handed the pieces back to him.

I really am curious how Abrams will respond.


Rian Johnson is a snowflake bitch. Him fucking it up was inevitable.

[Mark Celibate]

One cannot separate "cleverness and resourcefulness" from "experience and skill." One naturally leads to the other. There was at least some justification for her defeat of Kylo in TFA, but why is she able to keep up with him, and arguably outperform him, in the fight with the guards despite having next to no experience? The movie had a chance to show Luke training her, and she was on that planet with him for almost two fucking hours, but it didn't. And it doesn't matter either, because practice and experience mean nothing if one is strong in the force. It doesn't matter if the guards are the best of the best with years of experience; she can wipe the floor with them despite barely ever using a sword before.


And there are even more small minded slobs with an internet “opinion”. You appear to be one of them. I will run mental and physical circles around you. And I will put my money where my mouth is any time you’re up for it. Something along the lines of an all day physical test followed by a MENSA exam. Bring cash. I don’t take checks.I’m a designer that is currently revolutionizing the industry I’m in. I’m also a recently retired professional motorcycle roadracer with nine championships, I can’t remember how many wins and seven lap records to my credit. I’ve also raced the Isle Of Man TT. Go ahead and call me a dim witted faggot. I can’t imagine what that makes you in comparison. A Ti ladyboy with a learning disability?Get off your high horse. Real men have real confidence, that doesn’t need to be bolstered by shitting on people.

[UZER]

So they'll go out of their way to do nothing that was expected on purpose as to not give in to the fans, but here comes the gay Finn Poe romance because "it's what the fans wanted." :cry

[Spurtacular]

So they'll go out of their way to do nothing that was expected on purpose as to not give in to the fans, but here comes the gay Finn Poe romance because "it's what the fans wanted." :cry


And they'll claim they're gay after their characters are no longer relevant. :lol

[leemajors]

So they'll go out of their way to do nothing that was expected on purpose as to not give in to the fans, but here comes the gay Finn Poe romance because "it's what the fans wanted." :cry

this makes no sense.

[Chinook]

I legit hope the book fixes some of these issues and that's why it's coming out so much later than the movie. For as long as it was, there just didn't seem to be enough time. People say this movie did a good job in setting up the next, and I can't really agree there outside the first-level plot of the "Resistance" having to get a comeback win against the First Order. With how much shit they had to do to set-up this movie (like saying the FO apparently shrugged off their previous defeat and was dominating more than ever), they probably could have just gone straight to IX from VII with only that intro scroll and a couple of minutes of exposition to bridge the gap. In contrast, II was essential from getting from I to III.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

this makes no sense.
At this point he’s literally inventing reasons to hate on it.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

I legit hope the book fixes some of these issues and that's why it's coming out so much later than the movie. For as long as it was, there just didn't seem to be enough time. People say this movie did a good job in setting up the next, and I can't really agree there outside the first-level plot of the "Resistance" having to get a comeback win against the First Order. With how much shit they had to do to set-up this movie (like saying the FO apparently shrugged off their previous defeat and was dominating more than ever), they probably could have just gone straight to IX from VII with only that intro scroll and a couple of minutes of exposition to bridge the gap. In contrast, II was essential from getting from I to III.

You could give the exact same criticism about ANH/TESB

[UZER]

this makes no sense.

Oh it will, unless Disney decides better.

[Spurtacular]

I legit hope the book fixes some of these issues and that's why it's coming out so much later than the movie. For as long as it was, there just didn't seem to be enough time. People say this movie did a good job in setting up the next, and I can't really agree there outside the first-level plot of the "Resistance" having to get a comeback win against the First Order. With how much shit they had to do to set-up this movie (like saying the FO apparently shrugged off their previous defeat and was dominating more than ever), they probably could have just gone straight to IX from VII with only that intro scroll and a couple of minutes of exposition to bridge the gap. In contrast, II was essential from getting from I to III.

The continuity is crap, imo. As far as I'm concerned, I'd have been better off leaving off on the relative high of Force Awakens, just skipping Last Jedi and watching what's next. Nothing about this movie was worthwhile or pivotal. And of course they managed to kill off another legacy. They'd have been better off just renewing the Hans/Luke sh** from the start, honestly. You could feel their onscreen magnetism that others didn't have. And people just always figured it was all about the new age nuance. No, they had an awesome original cast that runs rings around everything since.

[leemajors]

This is pretty interesting:

http://www.acriticalhit.com/fans-react-empire-strikes-back-1980/

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

This is pretty interesting:

http://www.acriticalhit.com/fans-react-empire-strikes-back-1980/

I imagine there was a fair amount of “George Lucas is shitting all over A New Hope!” autistic screeching back in 1980.

[UZER]

I imagine there was a fair amount of “George Lucas is shitting all over A New Hope!” autistic screeching back in 1980.

TLJ sucks man.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0biqMZrxJ0

[UZER]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0biqMZrxJ0

Have you seen the video showing he might have not even known they were going to kill him? His interviews going into the premier verses his attitude after is a complete 180. :lol

[redzero]

TLJ sucks man.

Hey, at least we have the third film to look forward to. We might finally learn who Rey's parents are, see the benefits of her training from Luke, Snoke's background, and the role Luke will play! Oh wait, The Last Jedi took a shit all over all of that, so all we have now is Rey vs Kylo Ren, even though she kicked his ass already.

Get ready for Rey to continue to be perfect at everything always and for several pointless sideplots that exist solely to give Finn, Rose, and Poe something to do (or not do). As for Ben Solo, who cares? He is so inconsistent that it doesn't even matter what happens to him. He adheres to no logic that I can understand, so a redemption arc would weightless.

[Reck]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0biqMZrxJ0

I agree.

This Luke was too emo and too much of a pussy. The young Luke was all in on the Jedi are the defenders of the universe and will go down fighting mentality.

Gotta get that money though.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

This Luke was too emo and too much of a pussy.

:lmao yeah, it’s not like people ever complained about OT Luke being a whiny emo. Gotta love revisionist history.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

TLJ sucks man.
Okay cool :tu

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0biqMZrxJ0
A guy who regulary falls for Fox News bullshit didn’t stand a chance against this masterpiece of selective editing.

[Spurtacular]

A guy who regulary falls for Fox News bullshit didn’t stand a chance against this masterpiece of selective editing.

Either Mark Hammil thinks the new Star Wars is shit, or he's the worst salesman in the world. Pull your head out of your ass, tbh.

[vy65]

That film is frminazist , emasculating piece of shit.

Also, RIP Mark Hamill, Disney is going to shoot him after he clearly expressed how much he hates this movie.

Yes, TFA was a rehash, but at least it was a nice hommage to the original trilogy and it was fun.

Rian Faggotson clearly hates the Star Wars universe.

Also, I really liked Hux in TFA.

10 minutes into the Last Jedi and he becomes a retarded goofball comic relief.

Grand Moff Tarkin was an awesome bad guy. That scene in TFA where Hux rally’s the troops made him seem like Hitler. Then “General H:lolgs”?

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Either Mark Hammil thinks the new Star Wars is shit, or he's the worst salesman in the world. Pull your head out of your ass, tbh.
942488271753330688

Sounds like a guy who really fucking hates Rian Johnson for what he “did” to Luke :cry in before “lulz Disney paid him to write that”

[Spurtacular]

942488271753330688

Sounds like a guy who really fucking hates Rian Johnson for what he “did” to Luke :cry in before “lulz Disney paid him to write that”

Sounds like a guy who got a payout to do a damage control tweet. Mark Hammil's position on the new Star Wars shittiness is undeniable. Well, idiots will deny it.

[UZER]

942488271753330688

Sounds like a guy who really fucking hates Rian Johnson for what he “did” to Luke :cry in before “lulz Disney paid him to write that”

Yeah, and Aldridge loves Pops system.

[lefty]

Grand Moff Tarkin was an awesome bad guy. That scene in TFA where Hux rally’s the troops made him seem like Hitler. Then “General H:lolgs”?
Oh my god that was sl cringy :lol

[RGMCSE]

:lol a cute Irish chic becoming the “last Jedi”
:lol Walmart commercials.
:lol no darth vadar.
:lol some old dude living in New Zealand sits on a rock and imaginates victory from a rock.
:lol the plot literally every movie being the same. New order is taking over the galaxy. Is more powerful, has all the technology, all the power and all the tricks up the sleeve. Yet 5 resistance freaks save the galaxy driving an old aircraft that looks like a side carriage motor bike.
:lol Benicio Del Torro having a part in this shit show. It was the one moment I got excited something good was coming only for him to lose the accent and provide nothing exciting in his role. He sells out and turns on the poor lil Margaret cho and Eddie Murphy in five seconds.
:lolprinces lameya being absolutely useless
:loloh shit we’re stuck, 20 mins later oh never mind follow the meth crystal dog on the way out.
:lol People holding their breath in the movie then clapping at the end.
:lol Next 20 episode having the exact same plot and ending.

[Blake]

Oh neat, spoilers so that I can know what to expect before watching. Thanks

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXH5-Ci_Fgc

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Sucks that this one seems to suck.
Bc now we gotta wait 2 whole years for part 9.
Next year is that abortion hipster black lando movie *shudder*

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Sucks that this one seems to suck.
Bc now we gotta wait 2 whole years for part 9.
Next year is that abortion hipster black lando movie *shudder*

It’s a very vocal minority of neckbeards who say this one sucks. The vast majority thinks it’s good but not great, and they don’t care about shitposting their reviews on RT with multiple accounts. And yeah, that Han Solo movie sounds shittier and shittier the more we hear about it :lol I’m hoping that one sucks ass so that Disney rethinks their approach to future Star Wars films.

[Blake]

Oh neat, spoilers so that I can know what to expect before watching. Thanks

Thanks mod for merging thread tbh

[Spurtacular]

:lol a cute Irish chic becoming the “last Jedi”
:lol Walmart commercials.
:lol no darth vadar.
:lol some old dude living in New Zealand sits on a rock and imaginates victory from a rock.
:lol the plot literally every movie being the same. New order is taking over the galaxy. Is more powerful, has all the technology, all the power and all the tricks up the sleeve. Yet 5 resistance freaks save the galaxy driving an old aircraft that looks like a side carriage motor bike.
:lol Benicio Del Torro having a part in this shit show. It was the one moment I got excited something good was coming only for him to lose the accent and provide nothing exciting in his role. He sells out and turns on the poor lil Margaret cho and Eddie Murphy in five seconds.
:lolprinces lameya being absolutely useless
:loloh shit we’re stuck, 20 mins later oh never mind follow the meth crystal dog on the way out.
:lol People holding their breath in the movie then clapping at the end.
:lol Next 20 episode having the exact same plot and ending.

:lol Killing hologram Luke means killing real Luke.
:lol Recycling climactic/classic lines like they're tears of endearment.
:lol More unofficial gay romances.

[Spurtacular]

:lolprinces lameya being absolutely useless


Saw a headline about Carrie Fischer stealing the show before I saw it. Turns out it was just part of the Star Wars PR blitz.

[Blake]

It was decent, nothing great. If it wasn't Star Wars it would be a completely forgettable film.

The part I lol'ed was Leia flying in space.

[Spurtacular]

It was decent, nothing great. If it wasn't Star Wars it would be a completely forgettable film.

The part I lol'ed was Leia flying in space.

"nother level"

AaronY (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27732)

[Blake]

"nother level"

AaronY (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=27732)

You're strange.

[RGMCSE]

Saw a headline about Carrie Fischer stealing the show before I saw it. Turns out it was just part of the Star Wars PR blitz.

That was nothing more than pandering for the feminazis.

[UZER]

That only thing stolen by Carrie Fisher in that movie was years off her life.

[leemajors]

That only thing stolen by Carrie Fisher in that movie was years off her life.

Nah she was all coked out in the first trilogy :lol

[Spurtacular]

:lol Disney Snowflakes still doing their hostile takeover of Mark Hammil's twitter.
:lol Faggots even had the nerve to write #HumbledHamill

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[Spurtacular]

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[Spurtacular]

Luke dropping truth bombs!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=14&v=gYIAVvNH8rE

[djohn2oo8]

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