Rand Paul attack

[sickdsm]

Not sure why I don't see a thread about this anywhere. Surely a allegedly politically motivated attack on an upstanding senator deserves its own thread?

[ElNono]

Rene Boucher, an anesthesiologist in Bowling Green, has been charged with misdemeanor assault for the altercation, which occurred at the Kentucky senator's home in the city.

While the motive for the attack is still unclear, a lawyer for Boucher said on Monday that the the exchange stemmed from a “matter that most people would regard as trivial."

“It was a very regrettable dispute between two neighbors over a matter that most people would regard as trivial,” attorney Matthew Baker said. “We sincerely hope that Sen. Paul is doing well and that these two gentlemen can get back to being neighbors as quickly as possible.”

[AaronY]

What is there to say? It was either about shrubs or it was a crazy liberal who punched someone and now he's going to jail. In which case the law worked exactly like it's supposed to.

[Pavlov]

Not sure why I don't see a thread about this anywhere. Surely a allegedly politically motivated attack on an upstanding senator deserves its own thread?Politically motivated?

This was about lawn clippings, dude.

[AaronY]

I just googled this and the guy was a fervent libtard on his Facebook. So maybe it was political in which case like I said law worked. Don't punch people and you won't go to jail.

[sickdsm]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-pauls-neighbors-rip-media-landscaping-dispute-reports/article/2640090

Six broken ribs on a prominent us senator which are appearing more politically motivated by the day is worth $7500 bail?

[Pavlov]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-pauls-neighbors-rip-media-landscaping-dispute-reports/article/2640090

Six broken ribs on a prominent us senator which are appearing more politically motivated by the day is worth $7500 bail?Take it up with the local Kentucky officials.

Or do you want the federal government to press charges?

[sickdsm]

Politically motivated?

This was about lawn clippings, dude.

I said allegedly.


Are you implying motive to an assault on an important elected official is the basis for a newsworthy story?

[AaronY]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-pauls-neighbors-rip-media-landscaping-dispute-reports/article/2640090

Six broken ribs on a prominent us senator which are appearing more politically motivated by the day is worth $7500 bail?
Well that's fucked up then. Bail should be higher. Of course I dont know what bail normally is for a beating. It's a rich neighborhood so he'd be able to get out anyway I'm guessing. Get a restraining order make the guy move. I agree if the judge is a liberal and he goes easy on him it will look bad. Can't go around punching people whatever it's about.

[sickdsm]

Take it up with the local Kentucky officials.

Or do you want the federal government to press charges?

Your response to all news discussion in the forum?

[Pavlov]

Your response to all news discussion in the forum?To this particular news.

I don't think anything else should be done at this point. Dude's in the system.

What do you think should be done?

[Pavlov]

I said allegedly.


Are you implying motive to an assault on an important elected official is the basis for a newsworthy story?Nope. I'll just add it's also allegedly some dumb neighbor dispute.

[Chris]

Nope. I'll just add it's also allegedly some dumb neighbor dispute.

Tell us more about your neighbor theory. Be specific.

[monosylab1k]

Tell us more about your neighbor theory. Be specific.

:lmao it’s the wild conspiracy theory put out there by crackpots like Rand Paul’s lawyer.

[Pavlov]

Tell us more about your neighbor theory. Be specific.My neighbor theory is they had a dispute over boundaries or clippings or other yard waste or some combination thereof.

What's your theory, Chris?

Be specific.

[Chris]

My neighbor theory is they had a dispute over boundaries or clippings or other yard waste or some combination thereof.

What's your theory, Chris?

Be specific.

Figures you wouldn't get the joke. It's something you ask all the time in the Flynn thread.

[Pavlov]

Figures you wouldn't get the joke. It's something you ask all the time in the Flynn thread.I answered because you never have once. Thought you might need an example.

[Chris]

I answered because you never have once. Thought you might need an example.

Not true. You just don't like the answers, so you circle back around to the beginning.

[Pavlov]

Not true. Very true. You bug out like Grassley after a Manafort question.

[AaronY]

Tell us more about your neighbor theory. Be specific.

This is exact way DoK always asks people questions. Including the "be specific" part. literally not an original thought in that head :lol

[AaronY]

It's great too because when people are talking out of their ass and you ask them to be specific they just make themselves look bad. It makes you look smart too then. You should use it a lot because God know trying to look smart using your own argument tactics has never worked for you

[Chris]

This is exact way DoK always asks people questions. Including the "be specific" part. literally not an original thought in that head :lol


It's great too because when people are talking out of their ass and you ask them to be specific they just make themselves look bad. It makes you look smart too then. You should use it a lot because God know trying to look smart using your own argument tactics has never worked for you

I could go grammar nazi on you, but not really worth my time. I'll just take the high road like I usually do. :tu

[ElNono]

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/rand-pauls-neighbors-rip-media-landscaping-dispute-reports/article/2640090

Six broken ribs on a prominent us senator which are appearing more politically motivated by the day is worth $7500 bail?

The fact he was charged with misdemeanor assault and not battery or attempted murder pretty much rules out any serious altercation. You can get 6 broken ribs by falling in the wrong place, tbh... that's half the ribs on one side of your body.

This guy was clearly a guy Paul knew (neighbors), so it's not like he tried to break in or anything... frankly, based on the charges alone it looks like a argument gone horribly wrong.

Sucks for Paul, tbh, hope he has a speedy recovery. The $7500 bail sounds reasonable, but the guy eventually will likely be on the hook for way more if Paul files a civil suit.

[ElNono]

Just to get an idea, the actual charge of misdemeanor assault carries a penalty of up to six months in jail and/or a fine up to $1000.

[sickdsm]

To this particular news.

I don't think anything else should be done at this point. Dude's in the system.

What do you think should be done?

Don't lie. Your response to a news story you don't like.

[Quadzilla99]

Don't lie. Your response to a news story you don't like.

Sounds like maybe want to make this story a big deal because you think it makes Democrats look bad? Then failing that to spin it and make it that MSM is not covering it a big deal because it will make look MSM bad?

Lone jackass who went out and jackassed. Not much analysis needed

[pgardn]

Don't lie. Your response to a news story you don't like.

Ok then.

Its another crazy white man gone nuts.
If this anesthesiologist had a gun he surely would have put Paul to sleep.
Which would have been much more interesting.

Renshaw also dismissed the speculation that the fight was over landscaping. “Their lawn is always mowed. It’s such a lame excuse. That could have killed Rand if a rib had punctured a lung or worse yet the heart. Just no excuse for this type of behavior from adults. Especially educated adults.”


Uh oh, shits getting real...
Maybe it's to keep Paul in the hospital so he can't vote on important legislation. Or maybe this "neighbor" eats children and this conflict begs for investigation TSA style. (Rent free and he will take it on at no cost minus the wasted time) Maybe the grass clippings were the last straw in a Hatfield-McCoy dispute boiling up over centuries of conflict concerning proper lawn maintenance (no way; this is no fun...) Definitely an Antifa style, well thought out, dark coverup to follow. Fckn libtards.

[pgardn]

The fact he was charged with misdemeanor assault and not battery or attempted murder pretty much rules out any serious altercation. You can get 6 broken ribs by falling in the wrong place, tbh... that's half the ribs on one side of your body.

This guy was clearly a guy Paul knew (neighbors), so it's not like he tried to break in or anything... frankly, based on the charges alone it looks like a argument gone horribly wrong.

Sucks for Paul, tbh, hope he has a speedy recovery. The $7500 bail sounds reasonable, but the guy eventually will likely be on the hook for way more if Paul files a civil suit.

This guy could have actually pushed Paul to the ground.
I mean, he Fckn sucker pushed a neighbor who kept up a hell of a good lawn?

[baseline bum]

That's why you stop getting in fights after age 13. They can get serious really quickly from one punch, one shove. I can't believe he only got charged with misdemeanor assault considering Paul's injuries.

[sickdsm]

Sounds like maybe want to make this story a big deal because you think it makes Democrats look bad? Then failing that to spin it and make it that MSM is not covering it a big deal because it will make look MSM bad?

Lone jackass who went out and jackassed. Not much analysis needed

He's just as likely to be atracked by around then dem. They're both wackos.

[sickdsm]

Ok then.

Its another crazy white man gone nuts.
If this anesthesiologist had a gun he surely would have put Paul to sleep.
Which would have been much more interesting.

Renshaw also dismissed the speculation that the fight was over landscaping. “Their lawn is always mowed. It’s such a lame excuse. That could have killed Rand if a rib had punctured a lung or worse yet the heart. Just no excuse for this type of behavior from adults. Especially educated adults.”


Uh oh, shits getting real...
Maybe it's to keep Paul in the hospital so he can't vote on important legislation. Or maybe this "neighbor" eats children and this conflict begs for investigation TSA style. (Rent free and he will take it on at no cost minus the wasted time) Maybe the grass clippings were the last straw in a Hatfield-McCoy dispute boiling up over centuries of conflict concerning proper lawn maintenance (no way; this is no fun...) Definitely an Antifa style, well thought out, dark coverup to follow. Fckn libtards.
My point is why not the local authority response to every story. It's a b.s. response. Would have it been a bigger story if an ar was used? Couple shots across Tfw street would have been justas likely to do less damage fbn.

[Fabbs]

Something about a long time Establishment politician getting his ass kicked -sucker punch or not- that seems good.

Is a "Buy Boucher a Beer" fund going anywhere?

[Quadzilla99]

He's just as likely to be atracked by around then dem. They're both wackos.
Oh, ok. Well I'm sorry if I guessed your motive wrong. Getting a little paranoid maybe lol. Yeah, throw the book at this guy. He's an idiot

[Pavlov]

Don't lie. Your response to a news story you don't like.

Which senator attack story should I like?

[sickdsm]

Something about a long time Establishment politician getting his ass kicked -sucker punch or not- that seems good.

Is a "Buy Boucher a Beer" fund going anywhere?
What in your eyes makes one an establishment senator?

[sickdsm]

Which senator attack story should I like?

Skate much?

[Blake]

Very true. You bug out like Grassley after a Manafort question.

Lol

[Pavlov]

Skate much?It was a serious question.

You're saying I don't like this senator attack story because you want to be politically motivated. I think it was a stupid neighbor dispute and I still don't like it. You obviously want something else done about this so just say what that is.

[SnakeBoy]

Attack was politically motivated, federal charges coming.

[Quadzilla99]

Attack was politically motivated, federal charges coming.

Good.

[Quadzilla99]

I mean good for the charges not the political motivation.

[Pavlov]

I mean good for the charges not the political motivation.https://31.media.tumblr.com/fc8bcbc748765a454133622424806341/tumblr_nhlzr8JMYk1qbysf3o5_250.gif
If that's what they found, ditto.

[pgardn]

My point is why not the local authority response to every story. It's a b.s. response. Would have it been a bigger story if an ar was used? Couple shots across Tfw street would have been justas likely to do less damage fbn.

When old men fall... Sure.

Did he kick him in the ribs? I don't thinks so with a misdemeanor assault.

[spurraider21]

https://31.media.tumblr.com/fc8bcbc748765a454133622424806341/tumblr_nhlzr8JMYk1qbysf3o5_250.gif
If that's what they found, ditto.
:lol lawn dispute

[Pavlov]

:lol lawn disputeHaven't seen a new story on it. Appreciate whatever you have.

[ElNono]

That's why you stop getting in fights after age 13. They can get serious really quickly from one punch, one shove. I can't believe he only got charged with misdemeanor assault considering Paul's injuries.

The charge stems from the action, not the result. If he would've landed a punch, it would automatically include battery. Likely a shove or a missed punch that caused Paul to fall in the wrong place.

[DMC]

Not true. You just don't like the answers, so you circle back around to the beginning.
bhk0s-d3J7o

Chumpdumper in every thread :lol

[DMC]

Lol

"yap yap yap"

[Fabbs]

What in your eyes makes one an establishment senator?
Anyone elected for over 5 minutes? :lol
Seriously most of these phuck politicians have been *involved* in one way or another for years prior to election.
As for Rand, this is what his 4th term? Plenty of time to have honed his douchebaggery skills and/or been corrupted.

Like the neighbors speculate, i'm sure there is way more then lawn clippings leading to this.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rand-paul-attack-more-neighbors-now-casting-doubt-on-landscaping-dispute-story/ar-BBEOPss?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Lets see, Republican conservative. Maybe Boucher found Rand trying to hump his dog or cat?

To be clear, I don't know what happened. Perhaps Rand is truly a victim here.

[boutons_deux]

We'll see if Ayn Rand Paul presses or drops charges, or sues his neighbor, who ought to have quite a bit of money

[Chris]

bhk0s-d3J7o

Chumpdumper in every thread :lol

:lol

[Pavlov]

Anyone elected for over 5 minutes? :lol
Seriously most of these phuck politicians have been *involved* in one way or another for years prior to election.
As for Rand, this is what his 4th term? Plenty of time to have honed his douchebaggery skills and/or been corrupted.

Like the neighbors speculate, i'm sure there is way more then lawn clippings leading to this.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rand-paul-attack-more-neighbors-now-casting-doubt-on-landscaping-dispute-story/ar-BBEOPss?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartandhp
Lets see, Republican conservative. Maybe Boucher found Rand trying to hump his dog or cat?

To be clear, I don't know what happened. Perhaps Rand is truly a victim here.Oh he's the victim for sure. The only question here is motive. The staties and federales are investigating. Might take awhile to hear from them.

[spurraider21]

The charge stems from the action, not the result. If he would've landed a punch, it would automatically include battery. Likely a shove or a missed punch that caused Paul to fall in the wrong place.
A shove could be battery too tbh

[sickdsm]

Idiots acting like rand Paul isn't one of the few in Washington that's still has integrity.

[sickdsm]

Another ignorant fucking cocksucker. Like fucking ducks and retardmt spawn over and over
Lolz at choosing ducks over Boutons. Because ducks pops in here for a few months at a time then a few months off............

[DMC]

Lolz at choosing ducks over Boutons. Because ducks pops in here for a few months at a time then a few months off............

Mobile home education can do that.

[Chucho]

Lolz at choosing ducks over Boutons. Because ducks pops in here for a few months at a time then a few months off............

He's more than likely Boots.

[DMC]

Its cute that your mother sister helped you learn a soft euphemistic term to describe the squalor that you grew up in, listening to her get plowed by your uncle father and all his buddies in an effort to reduce the stigma of living under the house surrounded by chicken wire.

That doesn't mean that’s normal. And that doesn’t mean you aren’t a piece of shit. Quit being a piece of shit.

Sounds like I touched a nerve, fat boy.

[DMC]

You aren’t good enough. From what’s said about you upstairs, you would be a fat piece of shit. So it’s cute you project it on me.

Im offering practical advice. Quit being a piece of shit.

:lol like you aren't a fat apartment or mobile home dweller. Probably spent half your life in a bar.

[Chucho]

:lol like you aren't a fat apartment or mobile home dweller. Probably spent half your life in a bar.

Pacing around a ran down studio apartment yelling at his mom for buying off brand frozen pot pies and bogarting the remote.

[DMC]

Pacing around a ran down studio apartment yelling at his mom for buying off brand frozen pot pies and bogarting the remote.

Nah I picture him as much older than that. Probably a huge libtard Al Franken worshipping hog.

[Chucho]

Nah I picture him as much older than that. Probably a huge libtard Al Franken worshipping hog.

I'm not convinced he isn't a Boots alt tho and he really likes shouting at people calling them stupid and liars and his blind partisanship and hatred of all things Right just scream Bootsy.

[DMC]

I'm not convinced he isn't a Boots alt tho and he really likes shouting at people calling them stupid and liars and his blind partisanship and hatred of all things Right just scream Bootsy.

Seems like someone who is probably a church goer in their normal life, wife doesn't know they spew hatred online. Probably would shit a brick if she found out.

[Spurtacular]

I'm not convinced he isn't a Boots alt tho and he really likes shouting at people calling them stupid and liars and his blind partisanship and hatred of all things Right just scream Bootsy.

Definitely an alt. Always jumping in with little meaningless bitch snipes like an alt would.

[ElNono]

A shove could be battery too tbh

true

[spurraider21]

true
i mean if the jury is full of pussies, tbh

[SnakeBoy]

The charge stems from the action, not the result. If he would've landed a punch, it would automatically include battery. Likely a shove or a missed punch that caused Paul to fall in the wrong place.

Not according to this article


Paul’s injuries and his aide’s statement do not bode well for Boucher. Currently, he is charged with assault in the fourth degree, which is a misdemeanor. But that could change — so could the potential consequences if he is found guilty.

A defendant is guilty of assault in the fourth degree if he is found to have intentionally or wantonly caused physical injury to the victim. “Physical injury” is defined as substantial physical pain or impairment of physical condition, under Kentucky law.

The difference between this misdemeanor assault and felony assault in the second degree comes down to one word: “Serious."

A person commits felony second degree assault when he intentionally causes serious physical injury, according to Kentucky law, which is more than just physical injury. It includes prolonged impairment of health, or impairment of the function of any bodily organ, and broken ribs and impairment of the lungs appear to qualify. Ultimately, whether an injury is serious or just a misdemeanor injury is up to the jury at trial.

Paul’s newly-reported, more serious injuries could lead the state prosecutors to charge Boucher instead with the more-serious felony assault. The difference is punishment is massive. The misdemeanor assault carries a maximum term of a year of confinement, while a felony assault conviction carries a minimum of five and a maximum of ten years.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/rand-paul/rand-paul-s-attacker-could-face-more-serious-state-federal-n819556

and if they pursue Federal charges


Could Boucher be charged with a federal crime? Ordinarily, an assault on an ordinary citizen does not involve federal law. But Paul is a U.S. senator, and federal law criminalizes assaults on members of Congress. Lesser assaults, like throwing a punch without landing the blow, or a slap that doesn’t injure, are punishable by one year of imprisonment and a fine.

Assaults that result in any personal injury are punishable by up to ten years of imprisonment.

[Quadzilla99]

Lol

926938143391064064

Thats a conservative mocking him for flushing his principles down the toilet since he supported Moore who most have known was a piece of shit for a while

[Spurtacular]

Did you ever name one single crime of Hillary Clinton’s you mongoloid piece of shit

Bro, I wasn't even talking about that shit with you. Way to prove the point that you ain't nothing but an alt.

[pgardn]

I'm not convinced he isn't a Boots alt tho and he really likes shouting at people calling them stupid and liars and his blind partisanship and hatred of all things Right just scream Bootsy.

Im guessing Splits.
Super angry.
Boots just wants cops dead, not rmt.

[ElNono]

Not according to this article

and if they pursue Federal charges

Well, I was commenting on the charges filed. Obviously, they can amend the case at any time, but that's what we know so far.

And the point I was making still stands, if he touched Paul, battery would be there. Is isn't, so it's unlikely that happened.

[Spurtacular]

:cry


Kill yourself you lying piece of shit. Do one goddamned honorable fucking thing, and just end your fucking lie of a life

[Chris]

tee hee

954505526993330176

[spurraider21]

tee hee

954505526993330176
facing charges for wrongdoing is always a good thing

tho lol it does sound like a lawn dispute. apologies owed to Pavlov if true

[Spurtacular]

Politically motivated?

This was about lawn clippings, dude.

A metaphor for your board argumentation style, tbh.

:lmao

[Pavlov]

facing charges for wrongdoing is always a good thing

tho lol it does sound like a lawn dispute. apologies owed to Pavlov if true
It's all a rich tapestry.

[Chris]

Rand cashes in:

Sen. Rand Paul awarded over $580G after he was attacked by neighbor

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-rand-paul-awarded-over-580g-after-he-was-attacked-by-neighbor

[spurraider21]

lol 580k when his medical expenses were under 8k

[Chris]

"Paul, R-Ky., was awarded $375,000 in punitive damages and $200,000 for pain and suffering, plus $7,834 for medical expenses."

[spurraider21]

yup.

lol, 580k when his medical expenses were under 8k

[Pavlov]

Today's frivolous lawsuits.

[spurraider21]

Today's frivolous lawsuits.
i mean, i dont think the suit is frivolous. he was clearly battered. and its not uncommon to plead for a ton of damages. i'm just astonished that the jury actually awarded that much pain/suffering and punitives for that degree of injury. defense attorney says they're taking it up on appeal, likely just to dispute the reasonableness of those penalties.

[Pavlov]

i mean, i dont think the suit is frivolous. he was clearly battered. and its not uncommon to plead for a ton of damages. i'm just astonished that the jury actually awarded that much pain/suffering and punitives for that degree of injury. defense attorney says they're taking it up on appeal, likely just to dispute the reasonableness of those penalties.blue font

I don't know about his ongoing medical issues. Seems like a lot of money. Good thing Rand has a good gubmint health care plan.

[Spurs Homer]

Id say that was money well-spent!

[boutons_deux]

these awards are often greatly reduced on appeal, but maybe not if recpient is US Repug Senator and Repug appeal judge was nominated by a Repug.

iow Lady Justice is blind

If RP had been black ...