Lol Roy Moore's a pedo! And he'll still win (cuz Alabama)

[AaronY]

That's actually a testament to so-called conservatives that they aren't sheep. If this had happened in a deep blue urban district (Dem perp), the Republican still would have been slaughtered.
So in a way this whole thing was a big moral victory for you guys.

[boutons_deux]

Dems are taking encouragement from AL, but many rightwing whites didn't vote (won't happen elsewhere) rather than vote for a pedophile or a KKK-prosecuting / pro-abortion Dem, and extremely high turnout by blacks (women), won't happen elsewhere. An anomalous election with little or no general lesson.

[AaronY]

Dems are taking encouragement from AL, but many rightwing whites didn't vote (won't happen elsewhere) rather than vote for a pedophile or a KKK-prosecuting / pro-abortion Dem, and extremely high turnout by blacks (women), won't happen elsewhere. An anomalous election with little or no general lesson.
The point is the far rightwing/breitbart retards are pushing a lot of unelectable candidates who can win primaries but not generals so its extraordinarily representative.

As long as we don't nominate too many far left retards who want like $52,000 minimum wages we should be alright

[Spurminator]

So in a way this whole thing was a big moral victory for you guys.

:lol

[boutons_deux]

On huff

"Roy Moore still hasn’t admitted that he lost the election last week

Which maybe tells you a little something about his other denials"

:lmao

McConnell has probably told Moore not to cede and AL Repugs to kill time with recounts, so McConnell has an excuse for not seating Jones until after the tax cut vote.

Alabama counties told to tabulate write-in votes in Senate racehttp://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/12/alabama_counties_told_to_tabul.html

[AaronY]

:lol
Hey, they've proven not just that they can nominate a child molester but also that they can not vote for him in the end when it really counts. Valuable lesson to us all here

[Spurminator]

Hey, they've proven not just that they can nominate a child molester but also that they can not vote for him in the end when it really counts. Valuable lesson to us all here

Indeed, it was a teaching moment all along. We should not have been so quick to judge their nomination and enthusiasm for a disgraced and bigoted molester, because in the end it was just a setup for him to lose by a percentage point thanks to black women.

[Pavlov]

That's actually a testament to so-called conservatives that they aren't sheep. If this had happened in a deep blue urban district (Dem perp), the Republican still would have been slaughtered.
:lol today's child molester

[Spurtacular]

So in a way this whole thing was a big moral victory for you guys.

No.

#FullRetard

[spurraider21]

hashtags aren't searchable on ST, so you're just expressing your inner 16 year old girl

[RandomGuy]

That's actually a testament to so-called conservatives that they aren't sheep. If this had happened in a deep blue urban district (Dem perp), the Republican still would have been slaughtered.

The Democrat would have dropped out, allowing someone untainted to run. You are right in that regard. The Republican would get slaughtered, because Democrats still take the high road more often than Republicans.

[Spurtacular]

hashtags aren't searchable on ST, so you're just expressing your inner 16 year old girl

:lol chump lite

[Spurtacular]

The Democrat would have dropped out, allowing someone untainted to run. You are right in that regard. The Republican would get slaughtered, because Democrats still take the high road more often than Republicans.

<Points> Ooo, I know this one...

Things hyper-partisans say.

<Ding>

[AaronY]

Derptacular's entire post history consists of trying to talk down to people and failing miserably. its so great :lol

[spurraider21]

Derptacular's entire post history consists of trying to talk down to people and failing miserably. its so great :lol
i like when he was arguing there weren't any bullets fired in las vegas

[Pavlov]

i like when he was arguing there weren't any bullets fired in las vegas:lol where does this guy get his talking points?

[spurraider21]

:lol where does this guy get his talking points?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNZSXnrbs_k

[boutons_deux]

How Long Does It Take a Southern White Democrat Elected by Black Voters to Shift to the Right?

Less Than a Week.

many voters in Alabama who helped carry Doug Jones to a historic election victory have expressed frustration over recent comments from the senator-elect regarding both President Donald Trump’s alleged history of sexual harassment and the GOP tax bill.

allegations regarding sexual assault and harassment because the allegations “were made before the election, and so people had an opportunity to judge before that election.”

we did expect him to demonstrate some sense of accountability to those who elected him and not so quickly align his political message with those who have caused great, severe harm to the communities we serve. Amazingly, Jones is shifting to the right in less than a week!

his thoughts on pursuing the sexual allegations against Trump, Doug Jones essentially stated that he believes “we should just move on.”

he obviously lacks integrity and any sense of accountability to his base, and clearly doesn’t understand that just because someone is elected, their history of misogynistic or predatory behavior isn’t simply erased.

I believe the other severe damage of Jones’ apparent pivot to the right is the devastating and traumatic impact on the psyche and spirits of Black people who went beyond the call of duty to over-perform in the last election cycle in Alabama.

https://rewire.news/article/2017/12/20/long-take-southern-white-democrat-elected-black-voters-shift-right-less-week/?utm_source=Rewire+Newsletter&utm_campaign=963094cd29-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2017_12_20&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_811d53d1b5-963094cd29-111083417

Moore is the only Repug that would have lost to Jones.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

Apparently you know nothing of the demographics in Alabama.
Yeah, there were waaaayyyyyy more black people than you were anticipating when you threw your support behind a pedophile.

[Chris]

944703626454487042

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

:lmao Gillespie not a Trumper

[djohn2oo8]

Chris supporting child molesters. And has the nerve to quote the bible.

[DMC]

Chris supporting child molesters. And has the nerve to quote the bible.

The Bible is full of child molesters.

"they got me drunk and raped me" -Abraham about his daughters

[djohn2oo8]

The Bible is full of child molesters.

"they got me drunk and raped me" -Abraham about his daughters

So you support it to eh? Run old man!

[Pavlov]

Chris supporting child molesters. And has the nerve to quote the bible.:cryDon't you DARE call him a pedophile!:cry

[djohn2oo8]

:cryDon't you DARE call him a pedophile!:cry

"That's going too far! Child Molester will suffice"

[boutons_deux]

Roy Moore's Homophobic Attack On Doug Jones' Gay Son Spectacularly Blows Up In His Face (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/21/1726731/-Roy-Moore-s-Homophobic-Attack-On-Doug-Jones-Gay-Son-Spectacularly-Blows-Up-In-His-Face)

Eight days after the Alabama Senate special election there is still no concession speech from Roy Moore.

Moore, clutching at straws, said for days that when the provisional and absentee ballots were counted that that would raise him into the .5 margin of error bracket and allow for a recount.

Moore posted an interview with Carson Jones, Doug Jones’ son, done with The Advocate, an LGBT publication,

on his Facebook page, a silent invitation to a good old-fashioned gay-bashing pecking party. Daily Beast: (https://www.thedailybeast.com/sore-alabama-senate-race-loser-roy-moore-goes-after-doug-jones-gay-son?via=newsletter&source=DDAfternoon)


What is telling that Moore simply posting the interview with TheAdvocate without comment shows that he is too cowardly to now voice his homophobia toward Carson Jones direct.

He used to be so proud of opining that LGBT people were the root of so many evils, not least the allegations of sexual abuse that helped sink his campaign Instead, creepily when it came to Carson Jones, he lets his homophobia flow by inference.

Not only is Moore a bigot, he is one too frightened to now voice his homophobia.

Still intent on expressing it, however, he posts an interview given by his opponent’s gay son, and sits back, rubbing his hands waiting for the LGBT-haters to come to his online party.

People pointed out that Moore was hardly in a position to criticize anyone’s children. His son Caleb has been arrested nine times (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/senate-candidate-roy-moore-son-arrested-ninth-time-article-1.3555021).

“Hey Roy,” one person wrote, “instead of casting your stones at other people's sons, maybe you should try to get help for your own, before he gets arrested for the TENTH time. It doesn’t get more cynical and nasty than attacking someone else’s kid just because you lost an election. Jerk.”

One person responding to the post writes:

“I supported you during the campaign.

I defended you in discussions with friends and family.

But I have to tell you, this is a cheap shot.

It is unbecoming of a senatorial candidate to attack the family of your political opponent in my opinion. Just concede and go away.

The Alabama GOP will just have to nominate a better candidate for 2020.”


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/12/21/1726731/-Roy-Moore-s-Homophobic-Attack-On-Doug-Jones-Gay-Son-Spectacularly-Blows-Up-In-His-Face?detail=emaildkre



Fuck Christian Taliban and their FAKE so-called Christianity




Moore knew exactly how use The Hateful Bait as red meat for his hate-driven base.

[AaronY]

that's it boo..let it out. Let it all out. No good to keep that all bottled up inside

[boutons_deux]

The Unwritten Story In Alabama: The GOP Almost Didn’t Hold A Special U.S. Senate Election


Postponing or canceling an election to shore up one party’s chances of victory would be dangerous, antithetical and unconstitutional.

let’s not lose sight of the most important point: there was an election. That shouldn’t be taken for granted.

We were dangerously close to a situation in which one party orchestrated the delay of an election to avoid losing—a situation that would have endangered the very foundation of our democracy.

Because such an idea was even considered at a high level

—Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell reportedly sent a secret memo (https://www.cnn.com/2017/11/17/politics/trump-mcconnell-moore-alabama/index.html) to the White House Counsel’s Office floating theories for how to do this—

we must take seriously the threat that such a plan could be deployed in another election in the future.

We must also be clear now on why that would never be permissible (or constitutional).

Republican leaders explored options for delaying the election—presumably to reduce their party’s chances of losing.

To her credit, Governor Ivey never gave any public indication that she was considering a delay.


(https://www.alternet.org/election-03918/unwritten-story-alabama-they-almost-didnt-hold-special-us-senate-election) It would also be unconstitutional.
The Founders cited King George III’s failure to hold timely elections as one of the justifications for our Declaration of Independence.

And the 1864 presidential election proceeded as scheduled, even while half the country stood in armed rebellion and hostile armies camped a few days’ march from Washington, D.C.

As President Lincoln observed (https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/1864election.htm),

“We can not have free government without elections;

and if the rebellion could force us to forego,

or postpone a national election,

it might fairly claim to have already conquered and ruined us.”

https://www.alternet.org/election-03918/unwritten-story-alabama-they-almost-didnt-hold-special-us-senate-election

Bitch McConnell is the slimiest of slimy shitbag Repugs. Surprising even asked about the legality of delaying the election.

[AaronY]

feels better to let the anger out doesn't it, bud?

[boutons_deux]

Trash REALLY REALLY hates Sessions

Trump ‘blamed Sessions’ for loss of Alabama Senate seat because he quit to be attorney general

President Donald Trump’s difficult relationship with former Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) reportedly became more strained after Republicans lost the Senate seat that he vacated to accept the job of U.S. Attorney General for the Trump administration.

“But the rift between Trump and Sessions still has not healed,” the AP wrote. “Recently, Trump bemoaned the Republicans’ loss in a special election in Alabama and in part blamed Sessions, whose departure from the Senate to head to Justice necessitated the election.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trump-blamed-sessions-for-loss-of-alabama-senate-seat-because-he-quit-to-be-attorney-general-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2017/12/trump-blamed-sessions-for-loss-of-alabama-senate-seat-because-he-quit-to-be-attorney-general-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

A key reason that Trash chose or accepted Sessions as AG was that Sessions was the very first Senator to support Trash's campaign. Trash values loyalty above any other characteristic.

[Spurminator]

Breitbart’s Disgrace
by DAVID FRENCH
December 27, 2017 11:57 AM

When news cycles are crowded with outrage — some of it justified, much of it hysterical — it’s easy to lose track of the significant stories. There was one last week that conservatives can’t let slide down the memory hole. Breitbart’s editor-in-chief, Alex Marlow, admitted its full-court-press in favor of Roy Moore was motivated by a desire to protect Donald Trump and that Marlow actually thought Leigh Corfman’s claims against Moore “had a lot of credibility.” Corfman, you might recall, claimed that Moore assaulted her when she was only 14 years old.

So, why did Breitbart double down in support for Moore? It was protecting Donald Trump:

Marlow said one of the factors in Breitbart’s coverage of the allegations against Moore is that, he believes, the news media was trying to use them to set a bar on sexual misconduct “that President Trump cannot match.”

“I think they want to create a standard where President Trump either from past or future accusations, will not be able to match whatever standard is now in place for who can be a United States senator,” he said. “Based off not any sort of conviction or any sort of admission of guilt, but based off of purely allegations.”

“I think that’s the playbook here,” he added. “And I think it’s part of the reason why it was so important for Breitbart to continue our coverage of the way we covered it … and for Steve in particular to hold the line the way he did for — I think part of it is because it’s not just about Judge Moore, it is not even just about establishment, anti-establishment. It’s about what’s coming next for President Trump.”

I’m sorry, but this is vile. It’s one thing to test the claims of a person who publicly accuses a Senate candidate of sexual misconduct. That’s fair, and that’s something journalists should do when considering any claim of wrongdoing. It’s another thing entirely to withhold from readers the judgment that an accuser “had a lot of credibility” as part of an effort to protect an entirely different politician from the possibility of future claims.

In other words, Breitbart facilitated the continued persecution of a credible childhood assault victim for purely political purposes. It subordinated fact-finding to its political agenda. It acted not as a journalist enterprise but as a partisan opposition research firm with a quasi-journalistic platform. It exploited the good name of its founder and the trust of its audience to try to drag a probable child abuser across an electoral finish line.

It’s clear that Breitbart subscribes to the belief that to make their nationalist omelet they have to break a few abuse-victim eggs. Marlow, however, seems unrepentant. He claims that “Bannon and Breitbart are the most feared names in politics . . . And you can see it by the meltdown that so many people are having. The joy, the elation, the perception that Breitbart lost.”

This is wrong. Feared? Not at all. Bannon and Breitbart are two of the most disrespected names in politics. As for the joy? There is always satisfaction in seeing at least a measure of justice done. An unfit politician lost. A disreputable publication has been further discredited.

Conservatives need to remember what happened in Alabama. Content from Breitbart cannot be trusted. Until it’s under new management, its agenda will trump its commitment to decency or the truth.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/454969/breitbarts-disgrace-alex-marlow-admits-roy-moore-accuser-credible (http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/454969/breitbarts-disgrace-alex-marlow-admits-roy-moore-accuser-credible)

[AaronY]

Are those conservatives upset with Breitbart or cuckservatives?!?!

[boutons_deux]

"It subordinated fact-finding to its political agenda."

... for the Repug agenda, it's All Oligarchy-Enriching Politics, All The Time (and Repugs are enriched, also)

[boutons_deux]

With 'Baseless' Voter Fraud Claim, Roy Moore Challenges Alabama Election Loss

"This entire lawsuit is a taste of what Trump and Kobach's rhetoric and conspiracies lead to, and potentially a preview of what could follow if Trump loses in November 2020."

Just days after sharing an article from a right-wing website that blamed a "coalition of Muslim and Marxist-led groups (https://www.spin.com/2017/12/roy-moore-facebook-muslims-doug-jones-son/)" for his loss in Alabama's Senate election,

Republican and accused child molester Roy Moore made his denial official late Wednesday night by

filing a legal challenge (https://apnews.com/7c23d09eb6d4446a95c14e38ddaf2c65) alleging that he was the victim of widespread voter fraud.
The complaint comes just hours before Alabama officials are scheduled to certify the election results, which had

Democrat Doug Jones winning by more than 20,000 votes.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2017/12/28/baseless-voter-fraud-claim-roy-moore-challenges-alabama-election-loss

[boutons_deux]

AL Secretary Of State: Moore’s Lawsuit Won’t Change Anything About Jones Win

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/alabama-secretary-of-state-moore-lawsuit-will-not-change-jones-win?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29

[djohn2oo8]

946453075904036865

[spurraider21]

judge on judge crime

[boutons_deux]

Jones sez he will be an independent, gonna play spoiler on the Dems

[DMC]

That's actually a testament to so-called conservatives that they aren't sheep. If this had happened in a deep blue urban district (Dem perp), the Republican still would have been slaughtered.

There's the possibility that Moore would have lost anyhow. Doug Jones seems like a decent guy, maybe he doesn't get enough credit.

[DMC]

So you support it to eh? Run old man!

"too"

Support what?

[AaronY]

Jones sez he will be an independent, gonna play spoiler on the Dems
Well you called him a DINO earlier itt so you shouldn't be surprised. If it was up to you the Alabama Democratic party would have run some pussy hat wearing tranny who advocated $15 minimum wage, free college, universal healthcare, safe spaces at every college, also safe spaces at every high school and elementary school plus also universal basic income and lost by 85 points. So basically this whole thing is just an opportunity lost to you

[DMC]

S5CN9gRG6TQ

1:15

Wut?

[clambake]

S5CN9gRG6TQ

1:15

Wut?
ding

[DMC]

ding

Don't care about the topic, just what she said at 1:15

[Pavlov]

Don't care about the topicNo shit.

Chirp incoming.

[DMC]

No shit.

Chirp incoming.

In the video, Fucklesworth.

[Pavlov]

off topic chirp

[djohn2oo8]

^:lol

[DMC]

https://i.imgur.com/avAmlLZ.gif

[djohn2oo8]

https://m.popkey.co/605144/mpm0X.gif

[Th'Pusher]

Don't care about the topic, just what she said at 1:15

You saw Hilary's face and couldn't help yourself :lol I wonder what percentage of your posts in the PF are Hillary related. I'd bet you're pushing 70%.

[DMC]

^ Evidence none of you read anything with context.

Especially you, JP.

[Th'Pusher]

^ Evidence none of you read anything with context.

Especially you, JP.

I read it. She said knitter you moron.

[DMC]

I read it. She said knitter you moron.

You read it?

Just wait, it will become an issue.

[clambake]

You read it?

Just wait, it will become an issue.

already a "ding" issue.

[DMC]

already a "ding" issue.

Bend over, I'll show you a fuckin' ding issue.

[Th'Pusher]

You read it?

Just wait, it will become an issue.

The fact that she said knitter will become an issue? It’s not like she’s buttons using it as a substitute for N...What had you watching that Hillary clip on YouTube in the first place?

[DMC]

The fact that she said knitter will become an issue? It’s not like she’s buttons using it as a substitute for N...What had you watching that Hillary clip on YouTube in the first place?

Just wondering how you read the video.

[DMC]

http://money.cnn.com/2017/12/28/media/vanity-fair-hillary-clinton-donald-trump/index.html

[Reck]

Jones sez he will be an independent, gonna play spoiler on the Dems

I dont see the problem with that. Be glad he's not switching parties entirely.

Guy Should do what's best for his people and state. This notion that Doug Jones needs to be this ultra lefty now and anti-Trump is unrealistic and laughable.

[Spurtacular]

Well you called him a DINO earlier itt so you shouldn't be surprised. If it was up to you the Alabama Democratic party would have run some pussy hat wearing tranny who advocated $15 minimum wage, free college, universal healthcare, safe spaces at every college, also safe spaces at every high school and elementary school plus also universal basic income and lost by 85 points. So basically this whole thing is just an opportunity lost to you

If this guy goes against his constituency, he will have no shot at re-election if he ends up having a shot anyways. He probably will act more Republican than Democrat, tbh.

[Spurtacular]

You saw Hilary's face and couldn't help yourself :lol I wonder what percentage of your posts in the PF are Hillary related. I'd bet you're pushing 70%.

:lmao Liberals anointed Hillary for the 2016 presidency in 2008.
:lmao There can never be enough posts regarding their hag.
:lmao ST liberals sad whenever they see a Hillary post.

[spurraider21]

:lmao Liberals anointed Hillary for the 2016 presidency in 2008.
:lmao There can never be enough posts regarding their hag.
:lmao ST liberals sad whenever they see a Hillary post.
:lol still bitter about dan quayle getting cucked by al gore

[Spurtacular]

:cry 2000 :cry
:cry Supreme Court :cry

[DMC]

:lol still bitter about dan quayle getting cucked by al gore

What were you like 4?

[koriwhat]

:lol still bitter about dan quayle getting cucked by al gore

last time i checked, gore got cucked by bush. just facts.

[spurraider21]

What were you like 4?
younger. though fitting you'd ask questions about me during my pre-pubescent days in a roy moore thread. also, nice chirp

last time i checked, gore got cucked by bush. just facts.
both are true

[koriwhat]

younger. though fitting you'd ask questions about me during my pre-pubescent days in a roy moore thread. also, nice chirp

both are true

as well, last time i checked... gore is a fucking pos lying sob hack and deserves to be known as the global warming clown that he is.

[spurraider21]

as well, last time i checked... gore is a fucking pos lying sob hack and deserves to be known as the global warming clown that he is.
yes he said many inaccurate things about climate change/global warming. he's not a scientist, nor should he be treated as such.

his movie also had inaccuracies or misleading statements, but still brought more public awareness to the issue, and that's something.

that said, he still cucked dan quayle and derptacular is still really bitter about that :lol, to the point where he claims it was a liberal plot to change the spelling of potatoe

[koriwhat]

yes he said many inaccurate things about climate change/global warming. he's not a scientist, nor should he be treated as such.

his movie also had inaccuracies or misleading statements, but still brought more public awareness to the issue, and that's something.


he's not a scientist? not even a computer scientist? but i thought he invented the internet? and what's this global climate? oh another phony scheme because global "warming" didn't pan out? lmao he's a liar but but but he brought attention to a bs theory.

[spurraider21]

he's not a scientist? not even a computer scientist? but i thought he invented the internet? and what's this global climate? oh another phony scheme because global "warming" didn't pan out? lmao he's a liar but but but he brought attention to a bs theory.
He didn't the invent the internet. I seriously doubt you believe he meant that literally.

The carbon dioxide theory of climate change has been around since the 1950's. Global Warming is a symptom of climate change, and is a more popular term for the theory. They ultimately mean the same thing.

[koriwhat]

He didn't the invent the internet. I seriously doubt you believe he meant that literally.

i take nothing that hack says as truth. he's full of shit just like most of you far leftys.

[boutons_deux]

climate change is Ministry of Truth Luntz-speak

it's anthropogenic global warming in the anthropocene

[DMC]

younger. though fitting you'd ask questions about me during my pre-pubescent days in a roy moore thread. also, nice chirp

both are true

You're that guy who goes into every YT video and makes a negative comment about the dislikes, but never about the video. I found you finally.

[DMC]

yes he said many inaccurate things about climate change/global warming. he's not a scientist, nor should he be treated as such.

his movie also had inaccuracies or misleading statements, but still brought more public awareness to the issue, and that's something.

that said, he still cucked dan quayle and derptacular is still really bitter about that :lol, to the point where he claims it was a liberal plot to change the spelling of potatoe

:lol Gore couldn't carry his own fucking state.

Bill Clinton wouldn't even campaign for him.

This narrative of yours isn't getting off the ground. Take the bus.

[Th'Pusher]

:lmao Liberals anointed Hillary for the 2016 presidency in 2008.
:lmao There can never be enough posts regarding their hag.
:lmao ST liberals sad whenever they see a Hillary post.

70% is high. Think about that. DMC rarely posted in the political forum until HRC, she wins the nomination and his post count looks like an AGW hockey stick. 70%+ all focused on HRC. I’ve never seen anything like it.

[pgardn]

i take nothing that hack says as truth. he's full of shit just like most of you far leftys.

Far lefties...

What the fck does that make you besides brain dead. Creationism before Climate in Science by God....

[DMC]

70% is high. Think about that. DMC rarely posted in the political forum until HRC, she wins the nomination and his post count looks like an AGW hockey stick. 70%+ all focused on HRC. I’ve never seen anything like it.

Jesus wept

[Th'Pusher]

Jesus wept
HRC wept.

[DMC]

HRC wept.

https://i.imgflip.com/1dvf73.jpg

[Th'Pusher]

https://i.imgflip.com/1dvf73.jpg

Let’s see if we can get it up to 75%.

[djohn2oo8]

DMC really wishes he was Bill getting to go home and tap that?

[Pavlov]

You're that guy who goes into every YT video and makes a negative comment about the dislikes, but never about the video. I found you finally.Look what you're talking about.

Take a good long look.

[DMC]

Look what you're talking about.

Take a good long look.

Look who I was talking to. Notice it wasn't you.

Chirp

[Pavlov]

Look who I was talking to. Notice it wasn't you.

Chirp:lol forum cop chirp

[Chris]

Look who I was talking to. Notice it wasn't you.

Chirp

He's a habitual line stepper.

[Pavlov]

He's a habitual line stepper.Whose line, Chris?

[Chris]

Whose line, Chris?

You routinely interrupt conversations and answer questions that weren't asked of you.

[Pavlov]

You routinely interrupt conversations and answer questions that weren't asked of you.Is it your line, Chris?

[DMC]

Whose line, Chris?

https://cdn.postard.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/02/whose-line-is-it-anyway.jpg

[DMC]

:lol forum cop chirp

https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0695/8823/products/dsc06569_1024x1024.jpeg

[Spurtacular]

70% is high. Think about that. DMC rarely posted in the political forum until HRC, she wins the nomination and his post count looks like an AGW hockey stick. 70%+ all focused on HRC. I’ve never seen anything like it.

Hillary is the perfect example of liberals accepting whatever is shoved down their throats.

[Pavlov]

chirp

[DMC]

The Democrat would have dropped out, allowing someone untainted to run. You are right in that regard. The Republican would get slaughtered, because Democrats still take the high road more often than Republicans.

:lmao

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/ZHG3aMhillary-riggedc.jpg

[koriwhat]

Far lefties...

What the fck does that make you besides brain dead. Creationism before Climate in Science by God....

how exactly am i brain dead? please explain. btw, you can put whatever labels on me that you'd like to and profess that i am into this or that but you couldn't be further from the truth. what the fuck does creationism have to do with me exactly? what exactly do you think i subscribe to?

[koriwhat]

:lmao

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/ZHG3aMhillary-riggedc.jpg

god damn that wasserman-shultz bitch is so fucking ugly and to the core too. barf!

[DMC]

Hillary is the perfect example of liberals accepting whatever is shoved down their throats.

They are running from HRC like she's on fire and they live in a powder keg.

They want no talk of HRC. Too bad. That was their horse, they sacrificed Bernie for it. They wanted 4 years of HRC. They get 4 years of it.

[Spurtacular]

They are running from HRC like she's on fire and they live in a powder keg.

They want no talk of HRC. Too bad. That was their horse, they sacrificed Bernie for it. They wanted 4 years of HRC. They get 4 years of it.

:bobo

[Th'Pusher]

Hillary is the perfect example of liberals accepting whatever is shoved down their throats.

This is not an accurate statement imo. "Liberals" generally supported Bernie and their unfettered support of Bernie ultimately led to HRC's loss.

[Pavlov]

*ding*
*ding*
*ding*

[Th'Pusher]

:lmao

http://shtfplan.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/ZHG3aMhillary-riggedc.jpg

70.874%

[Th'Pusher]

They are running from HRC like she's on fire and they live in a powder keg.

They want no talk of HRC. Too bad. That was their horse, they sacrificed Bernie for it. They wanted 4 years of HRC. They get 4 years of it.

71.632%

[Spurtacular]

This is not an accurate statement imo. "Liberals" generally supported Bernie and their unfettered support of Bernie ultimately led to HRC's loss.

Yea, I love how the liberals tried to have the built-in excuse for Hillary losing. She has a 98.1 percent chance of winning; but if she doesn't it's Bernie's fault!

:lmao

[Th'Pusher]

Yea, I love how the liberals tried to have the built-in excuse for Hillary losing. She has a 98.1 percent chance of winning; but if she doesn't it's Bernie's fault!

:lmao

It's not Bernie's fault. It's HRC's fault and the fault of the DNC for running a shitty candidate and a safe campaign.

[Spurtacular]

It's not Bernie's fault. It's HRC's fault and the fault of the DNC for running a shitty candidate and a safe campaign.

Yea, really shitty we were told.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8UTa49XsAAJ4C1.jpg

[Spurtacular]

Bullet dodged.

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2722221.1469238221!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_750/usa-elections-clinton.jpg

[Th'Pusher]

Yea, really shitty we were told.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8UTa49XsAAJ4C1.jpg

This in no way shape or form refutes my claim.

[spurraider21]

It's not Bernie's fault. It's HRC's fault and the fault of the DNC for running a shitty candidate and a safe campaign.


Yea, really shitty we were told.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8UTa49XsAAJ4C1.jpg
do you disagree that she was a shitty candidate?

[Chris]

do you disagree that she was a shitty candidate?

All of them were. Your party needs a whitewash purge like those 33,000 emails.

[Spurtacular]

do you disagree that she was a shitty candidate?

How many media members spouted the kool aid that she was the most qualified candidate ever? I could find even umpteen on-air references to that in political eulogies given after she had lost.

[Spurtacular]

This in no way shape or form refutes my claim.

How can one be shitty if one has a 98.1 percent chance of winning? Qualify shitty then.

[spurraider21]

How many media members spouted the kool aid that she was the most qualified candidate ever? I could find even umpteen on-air references to that in political eulogies given after she had lost.
do you disagree that she was a shitty candidate, and that a big reason she lost was because she was a shitty candidate?

[spurraider21]

All of them were. Your party needs a whitewash purge like those 33,000 emails.
im not registered with any party. my experience trying to vote at the primaries further solidified that. i think the dnc is trash

[Spurtacular]

do you disagree that she was a shitty candidate, and that a big reason she lost was because she was a shitty candidate?

She is a felon. But the media thinks they get to tell any truth they want. She still did quite well when you consider that.

[Chris]

i think the dnc is trash

We can agree on that. :toast

[Spurtacular]

im not registered with any party. my experience trying to vote at the primaries further solidified that. i think the dnc is trash

What was your experience?

[spurraider21]

She is a felon.
what felony?


But the media thinks they get to tell any truth they want. She still did quite well when you consider that.
so, long story short, yes or no, do you agree that hillary was a shitty candidate?

[djohn2oo8]

She is a felon. But the media thinks they get to tell any truth they want. She still did quite well when you consider that.

How is she a felon and never convicted or even charged?

[spurraider21]

What was your experience?
posted about it way back, not sure if i started a thread over it, or if i had just posted it in one of the active threads at the time

long story short, i'm not registered with any party, have always been registered with "no party preference"

by CA primary rules, people registered as NPP are allowed to vote. when i got to the voting place, they only offered me a ballot that included everything EXCEPT the presidential nominee. i told them i wanted the full ballot, and they said that's only offered to registered democrats, and tried to get me to register on the spot. it was ridiculous. i had to pull out my phone and show them THEIR VERY OWN RULE that says they are required to allow me to vote (called a crossover ballot for non-democrats). after a few minutes of waiting as they discussed it with the supervisor, they finally gave me a ballot.

i told them on the spot that behavior like that only cements why i'm not registered with their party

edit: link to original post

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257983&page=29&p=8616559&viewfull=1#post8616559

^:lmao reading through that, wasn't that long ago th'pusher kept calling me a republican

[Th'Pusher]

How can one be shitty if one has a 98.1 percent chance of winning? Qualify shitty then.

Shitty was my characterization. I’m a pretty liberal dude and I wasn’t excited about her candidacy. I supported her strictly out of pragmatism after It was clear Bernie was going to lose.

[Spurtacular]

posted about it way back, not sure if i started a thread over it, or if i had just posted it in one of the active threads at the time

long story short, i'm not registered with any party, have always been registered with "no party preference"

by CA primary rules, people registered as NPP are allowed to vote. when i got to the voting place, they only offered me a ballot that included everything EXCEPT the presidential nominee. i told them i wanted the full ballot, and they said that's only offered to registered democrats, and tried to get me to register on the spot. it was ridiculous. i had to pull out my phone and show them THEIR VERY OWN RULE that says they are required to allow me to vote (called a crossover ballot for non-democrats). after a few minutes of waiting as they discussed it with the supervisor, they finally gave me a ballot.

i told them on the spot that behavior like that only cements why i'm not registered with their party

edit: link to original post

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=257983&page=29&p=8616559&viewfull=1#post8616559

^:lmao reading through that, wasn't that long ago th'pusher kept calling me a republican

Yup. Democrats don't care about rules or laws.

Obviously, you're not a republican. You're a sperm shielder for Democrats despite that if anything.

[Spurtacular]

Shitty was my characterization. I’m a pretty liberal dude and I wasn’t excited about her candidacy. I supported her strictly out of pragmatism after It was clear Bernie was going to lose.

How was it pragmatic to support her if you know she is shitty?

[spurraider21]

How was it pragmatic to support her if you know she is shitty?
donny is more shitty

[Spurtacular]

donny is more shitty

You guys just get triggered when you see the R next to the name.

[spurraider21]

You guys just get triggered when you see the R next to the name.
i probably woulda voted for graham or kasich over hillary tbh

[Th'Pusher]

You guys just get triggered when you see the R next to the name.

Has nothing to do with the R. I’ve voted republican. I voted for W in 2000. Donald Trump has been, by far, the shittiest candidate and president in my lifetime.

[Th'Pusher]

i probably woulda voted for graham or kasich over hillary tbh

Graham?

[Th'Pusher]

^ Never mind. You’re referring to the southern lesbian. Forgot he ran tbh.

[spurraider21]

Graham?
yeah. his incessant hawkishness is his biggest flaw, but i probably woulda voted for him over hillary. it was worth giving the dnc a wake up call, and he isn't nearly as dangerous as donny

carson, fiorina, trump, cruz were the most dangerous imo

[spurraider21]

^ Never mind. You’re referring to the southern lesbian. Forgot he ran tbh.
:lol

[DMC]

do you disagree that she was a shitty candidate?

Obviously that wasn't the mantra until she lost. Bernie, on the other hand...

[DMC]

Shitty was my characterization. I’m a pretty liberal dude and I wasn’t excited about her candidacy. I supported her strictly out of pragmatism after It was clear Bernie was going to lose.

:lmao

Why did Bernie lose?

:lmao

[spurraider21]

Obviously that wasn't the mantra until she lost. Bernie, on the other hand...
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256865

[Spurtacular]

Has nothing to do with the R. I’ve voted republican. I voted for W in 2000. Donald Trump has been, by far, the shittiest candidate and president in my lifetime.

W was a Dem with an R next to his name.

What has Trump done that is so awful?

[Th'Pusher]

:lmao

Why did Bernie lose?

:lmao

72.001%

And...
By how many votes did HRC win the democrat primaries?

[DMC]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256865

Certainly wasn't the mantra across the nation.

All those college educated folks couldn't be wrong, right? :lol

[Th'Pusher]

W was a Dem with an R next to his name.

What has Trump done that is so awful?

He’s been pretty impotent legislatively. With the exception of the tax bill, which is one of the shittiest pieces of legislation I’ve seen passed. I don’t believe it’s going to encourage growth, job creation or wage increases. We’ve seen this play out before.

In the absence of legislative victories his deregulation has also been counterproductive particularly concerning the environment.

We have a complete bitch POTUS. He can’t speak. He’s a ridiculous narcissist. He whines about his predecessor incessantly. Overall the guy has been a complete embarrassment on the national and international stage. IMHO.

[Th'Pusher]

Certainly wasn't the mantra across the nation.

All those college educated folks couldn't be wrong, right? :lol
72.438%.

[DMC]

72.438%.

JP melting down

[DMC]

He’s been pretty impotent legislatively. With the exception of the tax bill, which is one of the shittiest pieces of legislation I’ve seen passed. I don’t believe it’s going to encourage growth, job creation or wage increases. We’ve seen this play out before.

In the absence of legislative victories his deregulation has also been counterproductive particularly concerning the environment.

We have a complete bitch POTUS. He can’t speak. He’s a ridiculous narcissist. He whines about his predecessor incessantly. Overall the guy has been a complete embarrassment on the national and international stage. IMHO.

So the environment has gotten a lot worse since 2016? :lol

[Th'Pusher]

So the environment has gotten a lot worse since 2016? :lol

Sorry. Will rephrase. Will likely be counerproductive to the environment.

[Spurtacular]

He’s been pretty impotent legislatively. With the exception of the tax bill, which is one of the shittiest pieces of legislation I’ve seen passed. I don’t believe it’s going to encourage growth, job creation or wage increases. We’ve seen this play out before.

In the absence of legislative victories his deregulation has also been counterproductive particularly concerning the environment.

We have a complete bitch POTUS. He can’t speak. He’s a ridiculous narcissist. He whines about his predecessor incessantly. Overall the guy has been a complete embarrassment on the national and international stage. IMHO.

These are all vague talking points against Trump. It hardly rises to the level of "shittiest candidate and president in my lifetime" unless you just think everyone before Trump was just dandy.

[Th'Pusher]

These are all vague talking points against Trump. It hardly rises to the level of "shittiest candidate and president in my lifetime" unless you just think everyone before Trump was grand.

Welcome to my opinion.

[DMC]

Sorry. Will rephrase. Will likely be counerproductive to the environment.

You were willing to bet that Philo voted for Trump as well, so your judgement isn't that solid. I'll take a hard pass on this one.

[Th'Pusher]

You were willing to bet that Philo voted for Trump as well, so your judgement isn't that solid. I'll take a hard pass on this one.

Awesome!

[DMC]

These are all vague talking points against Trump. It hardly rises to the level of "shittiest candidate and president in my lifetime" unless you just think everyone before Trump was just dandy.

It's evidence by speculation. "will likely" is the detail of the day it seems.

[DMC]

Awesome!

protip: don't interject when you're ignorant of facts

That will help you avoid such declarations of frustration.

[Spurtacular]

Welcome to my opinion.

Welcome to your bitterness. You should stop buying into everything the shitty media sells you.

[Th'Pusher]

protip: don't interject when you're ignorant of facts

That will help you avoid such declarations of frustration.

I didn’t interject. I answered a direct question. I’m not ignorant of facts. I simply misstated and corrected my statement and the local pedant’s request. Do you want me to reference specific regulations trump overturned that I believe will be harmful to the environment?

[DMC]

I didn’t interject. I answered a direct question. I’m not ignorant of facts. I simply misstated and corrected my statement and the local pedant’s request. Do you want me to reference specific regulations trump overturned that I believe will be harmful to the environment?

You had to issue a retraction because, in your haste to show how Trump has failed, you fast forwarded through time to your speculated outcome and called it fact. I reeled you back in and you had to admit it's just your wild ass guess based on fear.

[Th'Pusher]

You had to issue a retraction because, in your haste to show how Trump has failed, you fast forwarded through time to your speculated outcome and called it fact. I reeled you back in and you had to admit it's just your wild ass guess based on fear.

Not based on fear. Based on environmental regulations he has already rolled back or is in the process of rolling back.

[Spurtacular]

Not based on fear. Based on environmental regulations he has already rolled back or is in the process of rolling back.

Tell us about the environmental calamities coming our way cos of Trump.

[Th'Pusher]

Tell us about the environmental calamities coming our way cos of Trump.

I never claimed environmental calamities. I claimed that I thought the deregulation would be counterproductive.

http://environment.law.harvard.edu/POLICY-INITIATIVE/REGULATORY-ROLLBACK-TRACKER/

Most of these are a wet kiss to industry.

[AaronY]

You had to issue a retraction because, in your haste to show how Trump has failed, you fast forwarded through time to your speculated outcome and called it fact. I reeled you back in and you had to admit it's just your wild ass guess based on fear.
Do you actually like Bernie or just think he would win? Because based on his statements and his debate with Cruz he's a full on socialist who understands economics about as well as Chris understands vagina. Would be surprised if you thought his government as Santa Claus bullshit was intelligent

[Spurtacular]

I never claimed environmental calamities. I claimed that I thought the deregulation would be counterproductive.

http://environment.law.harvard.edu/POLICY-INITIATIVE/REGULATORY-ROLLBACK-TRACKER/

Most of these are a wet kiss to industry.

So, you don't have a whole lot; just sounds good to say.

[DMC]

Do you actually like Bernie or just think he would win? Because based on his statements and his debate with Cruz he's a full on socialist who understands economics about as well as Chris understands vagina. Would be surprised if you thought his government as Santa Claus bullshit was intelligent

Bernie is an old socialist fuck. I don't dislike him personally but his idea for government is unsustainable and the fact that he's as close to broke as I am tells me he's not the most financially savvy investor. Either way, he ran on the DNC ticket and so did Hillary, so let's not keep deflecting from the focal point which is Hillary. If she's the shittiest candidate, how valuable in the realm of government is the collective education levels of her voters?

[DMC]

Do you actually like Bernie or just think he would win? Because based on his statements and his debate with Cruz he's a full on socialist who understands economics about as well as Chris understands vagina. Would be surprised if you thought his government as Santa Claus bullshit was intelligent

double post ..

[Th'Pusher]

So, you don't have a whole lot; just sounds good to say.

Do I really have to explain why I believe eliminating a rule that, for example, regulates the discharge of arsenic, lead, Mercury into the environment would be counterproductive to the environment?

[DMC]

Not based on fear. Based on environmental regulations he has already rolled back or is in the process of rolling back.
That you've seen no results of to say good/bad. Ergo - fear.

[Th'Pusher]

Bernie is an old socialist fuck. I don't dislike him personally but his idea for government is unsustainable and the fact that he's as close to broke as I am tells me he's not the most financially savvy investor. Either way, he ran on the DNC ticket and so did Hillary, so let's not keep deflecting from the focal point which is Hillary. If she's the shittiest candidate, how valuable in the realm of government is the collective education levels of her voters? 73.009%.

[Spurtacular]

Do I really have to explain why I believe eliminating a rule that, for example, regulates the discharge of arsenic, lead, Mercury into the environment would be counterproductive to the environment?

You don't; but this is the first I'm hearing you say that. Of course, voting Hillary wasn't going to stop that either. You're relying on fear politics.

[Th'Pusher]

You don't; but this is the first I'm hearing you say that. Of course, voting Hillary wasn't going to stop that either. You're relying on fear politics.

I don't think HRC would have rolled back the environmental regulation like Trump has. And this isn't fear politics. These are actual regulations trump has rolled back since becoming president.

[Th'Pusher]

That you've seen no results of to say good/bad. Ergo - fear.

:lol like you can't predict the effects of removing a regulation. As if there wasn't a measurable state prior to the regulation being implemented.

[DMC]

Do I really have to explain why I believe eliminating a rule that, for example, regulates the discharge of arsenic, lead, Mercury into the environment would be counterproductive to the environment?

It only regulates us doing it.

[DMC]

:lol like you can't predict the effects of removing a regulation. As if there wasn't a measurable state prior to the regulation being implemented.

I don't need to predict anything. I generally avoid making matter-of-fact statements using prognostication.

[DMC]

73.009%.

Let me know when I get to 98.1%

[Th'Pusher]

I don't need to predict anything. I generally avoid making matter-of-fact statements using prognostication.

You said:


That you've seen no results of to say good/bad. Ergo - fear.

An inaccurate statement.

There was a result prior to the regulation being implemented. Predicting the result of removing the regulation is not fear, it’s logical.

[DMC]

You said:



An inaccurate statement.

There was a result prior to the regulation being implemented. Predicting the result of removing the regulation is not fear, it’s logical.

Then why did you say "likely"?

[Th'Pusher]

Then why did you say "likely"?

Because it’s a prediction.

[DMC]

Because it’s a prediction.

Exactly.

You don't understand the concept of "results" if you think you can see them before the changes.

I'm not arguing for or against it, but I'm not predicting something based on confirmation bias (thus didn't need to issue a retraction).

[Th'Pusher]

Exactly.

:lol a prediction based on logic, not fear.

[DMC]

:lol a prediction based on logic, not fear.

Based on confirmation bias unless you can show the premises that you used to come to the conclusion.

[Th'Pusher]

Based on confirmation bias unless you can show the premises that you used to come to the conclusion.

So it’s not fear as you initially stated? Now it’s confirmation bias?

:lol spinning like a top

[DMC]

So it’s not fear as you initially stated? Now it’s confirmation bias?

:lol spinning like a top

:lol not understanding confirmation bias

Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.

So you cannot show your logic?

Or are you confusing "sensible" with "logical"?

[Th'Pusher]

:lol not understanding confirmation bias

Confirmation bias, also called confirmatory bias or myside bias, is the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.

So what you said was: confirmation bias. Ergo fear?

That makes no sense.


So you cannot show your logic?

Or are you confusing "sensible" with "logical"?

Sure I can. The state will return to pre-regulation levels and resume a similar rate of increase/decrease after the regulation is removed.

[DarrinS]

It’s over. Go home.

[DMC]

So what you said was: confirmation bias. Ergo fear?

That makes no sense.



Sure I can. The state will return to pre-regulation levels and resume a similar rate of increase/decrease after the regulation is removed.

Where's your argument?

[Th'Pusher]

Where's your argument?

The discharge of arsenic, lead and mercury will return to pre-regulation levels once the regulation is removed.

[DMC]

The discharge of arsenic, lead and mercury will return to pre-regulation levels once the regulation is removed.

No, that's your conclusion.

Where are your premises?

[Chris]

Roy Moore: I Took A Lie Detector Test, I'm Innocent


Republican Roy Moore remains defiant over the December 12 election results for the Alabama Senate seat vacated by Attorney General Jeff Sessions. Moore has yet to formally concede and has filed a lawsuit to delay the certification of his opponent, Democrat Doug Jones, who won the election by about 20,000 votes.

In the suit, Moore, whose campaign was derailed by allegations of sexual misconduct, said he took a lie detector test following the election that he says proves his innocence.

"Also provided in the complaint is an affidavit from Judge Roy Moore stating that he successfully completed a polygraph test confirming the representations of misconduct made against him during the campaign are completely false," said Moore's campaign in a statement released Wednesday.

During the election for the Senate seat, multiple women came forward to accuse Moore of having inappropriate relations with them when they were teenagers and he was in his 30s. “One woman says she was 14 years old when Moore touched her sexually. Another accuser said Moore assaulted her when she was 16 years old, pushing her head towards his crotch in a locked car,” notes The Hill.

Moore filed the lawsuit hours before Alabama Secretary of State John Merrill is set to certify Jones as the election winner. The suit claims election "irregularities" and calls for an investigation into voter fraud. "In the complaint, Moore’s attorneys noted the higher than expected turnout in the race, particularly in Jefferson County, and said that Moore's numbers were suspiciously low in about 20 Jefferson County precincts," reports the Associated Press.

"The purpose of the complaint is to preserve evidence of potential election fraud and to postpone the certification of Alabama’s Special Election by Secretary of State John Merrill until a thorough investigation of potential election fraud, that improperly altered the outcome of this election, is conducted," reads a statement from the Moore campaign.

Jones' spokesman Sam Coleman said the suit's "desperate attempt by Roy Moore to subvert the will of the people will not succeed."

"The election is over, it's time to move on," Coleman told The Hill.

Earlier this month, Merrill confirmed that an investigation into voter fraud was opened after a video went viral of a Jones supporter seemingly bragging about traveling from out of state to vote for the Democrat.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/25164/roy-moore-i-took-lie-detector-test-im-innocent-amanda-prestigiacomo

[Spurtacular]

^^^
I can buy that. Dems love rigging elections.

[Pavlov]

^^^
I can buy that. Dems love rigging elections.How would you say the Democrats in Alabama rigged the election?

[Th'Pusher]

No, that's your conclusion.

Where are your premises?

Incorrect. The conclusion is part of the argument. I provideded a conclusion with a missing premise which was more than sufficient for this stupid back and forth on the ST political forum.

You know DMC has lost an argument when he intentionally makes basic errors like he did here, grasping at anything to try and trip up his oponent.

Look on the bright side pickle-breath. These little asides drag your Hillary % down! Although I think it’s fair to call this Hillary adjacent :lol

[AaronY]

Roy Moore: I Took A Lie Detector Test, I'm Innocent


^^^
I can buy that. Dems love rigging elections.
Don't forget the Republican establishment rigging it too. Keep nominating Looney far right retards like Moore and that Chemtrail Kelli over in Arizona and we'll be able to "rig" a bunch more. We'll trick the normal swing voters to be revolted by child molesters who say crazy backwards things and goobers who go to Chemtrail conventions

[DMC]

Incorrect. The conclusion is part of the argument. I provideded a conclusion with a missing premise which was more than sufficient for this stupid back and forth on the ST political forum.

You know DMC has lost an argument when he intentionally makes basic errors like he did here, grasping at anything to try and trip up his oponent.

Look on the bright side pickle-breath. These little asides drag your Hillary % down! Although I think it’s fair to call this Hillary adjacent :lol

You said it was logical.

You need to show it's logical. You used your conclusion as your premise then doubled down by saying "no, it's a conclusion.. with a missing premise" when I said "you gave a conclusion, not a premise" as if what you said is different than what I said.

To show logic you need to show how you reached that conclusion.

[Th'Pusher]

You said it was logical.

You need to show it's logical. You used your conclusion as your premise then doubled down by saying "no, it's a conclusion.. with a missing premise" when I said "you gave a conclusion, not a premise" as if what you said is different than what I said.

To show logic you need to show how you reached that conclusion.

The premise was stated upstream. There wan an assumption that the discharge of arsenic, lead, mercury into the environment is not good for the environment. Again, that’s totally reasonable for this back and forth on ST.

[DMC]

The premise was stated upstream. There wan an assumption that the discharge of arsenic, lead, mercury into the environment is not good for the environment. Again, that’s totally reasonable for this back and forth on ST.

Don't expect someone else to piece together your logic. You said it's logical, you piece it together.

1. Arsenic, lead and mercury discharge is bad for the environment (this needs to be proven and clarified)
2. Prior regulations caused lower emissions of these
3. Removing those regulations causes more of these

These premises assume the regulations were physical devices that are being removed from things that emit those materials when in fact they were punishments that collected money from business who violated them.

Where is the evidence that fewer were emitted and that more will now be emitted? You're going from pure speculation based on distrust of industry coupled with trust of the Obama administration's ability to actually change the output.


The "something is better than nothing" angle is tire and meaningless when you expect to support your assertion that removing regulations who's effects are basically unknown will create known effects.

[Spurtacular]

Don't forget the Republican establishment rigging it too. Keep nominating Looney far right retards like Moore and that Chemtrail Kelli over in Arizona and we'll be able to "rig" a bunch more. We'll trick the normal swing voters to be revolted by child molesters who say crazy backwards things and goobers who go to Chemtrail conventions

I've never endorsed Roy Moore; and I said he should've dropped out of the race. None of that means the Dems are gonna stop pulling shit.

[AaronY]

I've never endorsed Roy Moore; and I said he should've dropped out of the race. None of that means the Dems are gonna stop pulling shit.
None of the accusers knew each other and they told scores of friends and family decades ago. The "shit" MSM pulled was reporting stuff people in Alabama have known for decades including some of his coworkers who came forward

[Chris]

It's just mudslinging at it's core. The solution is to not have any skeletons in your closet when it's time to run.

[Spurtacular]

None of the accusers knew each other and they told scores of friends and family decades ago. The "shit" MSM pulled was reporting stuff people in Alabama have known for decades including some of his coworkers who came forward

Yea, it was all on the up and up :jack

[baseline bum]

W was a Dem with an R next to his name.

What has Trump done that is so awful?

No, that was Trump who was a Dem

[AaronY]

Yea, it was all on the up and up :jack
Shit like this has happened to plenty of Democrats. Not with teenagers but with scandals and affairs; Gary Hart (Dem frontrunner for presidential nomination) way back in 1988, Bill Clinton's accusers in 1992 were a big Scandal before the election, John Edwards was rightfully driven out of politics, et cetera but when it happens to Republicans lately you guys act like it's some kind of big conspiracy.

[Spurtacular]

No, that was Trump who was a Dem

Okay, then stop crying about the guy.

[Spurtacular]

Shit like this has happened to plenty of Democrats. Not with teenagers but with scandals and affairs; Gary Hart (Dem frontrunner for presidential nomination) way back in 1988, Bill Clinton's accusers in 1992 were a big Scandal before the election, John Edwards was rightfully driven out of politics, et cetera but when it happens to Republicans lately you guys act like it's some kind of big conspiracy.

At some point in his life if not consistently, Moore likely acted in an improprietous manner. I don't shed any tears for him. If Dems want to be taken seriously, you don't bring in hitmen like Gloria Aldred, whom we know is a joke. You stop doing things counterproductive to fair voting standards. IDs for voting is not racism; it's simply taking care that my right to vote is not subverted. Stop with all the nonsense if you want to think you're on a higher plane.

[baseline bum]

Okay, then stop crying about the guy.

Bush ain't a dem you faggot, he's a jeebotard like you.

[Isitjustme?]

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[Spurminator]

Posting in case some of you want to help him out.

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[boutons_deux]

956010655760306176

Same tactic in Kockistan by Walker, no special elections (that Repugs might, lose)

[Winehole23]

wild NYT story.

Roy Moore was the target of a false flag info-op that planted the idea that Roy Moore's campaign was being amplified by a Russian botnet.

The org that did the false flag op, New Directions, in the very same time frame was delivering a report to the US Senate about the dangers of Russian social media to democracy.

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[TSA]

wild NYT story.

Roy Moore was the target of a false flag info-op that planted the idea that Roy Moore's campaign was being amplified by a Russian botnet.

The org that did the false flag op, New Directions, in the the very same time frame was delivering a report to the US Senate about the dangers of Russian social media to democracy.

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I posted this in your other thread.

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I like how they spent more than the Russians yet the NYT tried to downplay the significance it had on the votes.

[Winehole23]

yeah, well what's your take on it?

[Winehole23]

(Henry Farrell>Robert Barnes, tbh)

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1078461971610128385

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1078461971610128385
morgan wright is legit imo, as far as cybersecurity expertise. he was a keynote speaker at a bar association event on technology in litigation. got a chance to speak to him 1 on 1 afterwards, cool dude.

dunno about his politics tho

[Chris]

morgan wright is legit imo, as far as cybersecurity expertise. he was a keynote speaker at a bar association event on technology in litigation. got a chance to speak to him 1 on 1 afterwards, cool dude.

dunno about his politics tho

Morgan Wright possibly bad now then?

[spurraider21]

Morgan Wright possibly bad now then?
i dunno about his politics. maybe he's just right leaning. maybe he's a trump bootlicker. maybe he's a Q truther. i dunno.

he said nothing relating to cybersecurity in that entire interview clip. he's a good authority on cybersecurity issues.

[Chris]

i dunno about his politics. he said nothing relating to cybersecurity in that entire interview clip. he's a good authority on cybersecurity issues.

What if he's just reporting facts that could possibly shed a negative light on your favored politicians? Is that just "his politics", or is this a disconnect?

[spurraider21]

What if he's just reporting facts that could possibly shed a negative light on your favored politicians? Is that just "his politics", or is this a disconnect?
he's not a journalist or a reporter, so i dont know what new facts he'd bring to the table, other than regurgitating what has already been reported by somebody else. he doesn't have any more expertise on twitter campaign funding than the average person.

his cybersecurity expertise has nothing to do with anything he said in that video. he didnt give some expert insight or anything like that.

[Chris]

he's not a journalist or a reporter, so i dont know what new facts he'd bring to the table, other than regurgitating what has already been reported by somebody else. he doesn't have any more expertise on twitter campaign funding than the average person.

his cybersecurity expertise has nothing to do with anything he said in that video. he didnt give some expert insight or anything like that.

Only journalists and reporters can bring facts to the table?

[spurraider21]

Only journalists and reporters can bring facts to the table?
journalists/reporters, and primary sources bring facts to the table.

anybody can discuss the facts after they've been laid out. and usually you'd like an expert in the field to give an opinion as to what the facts collectively mean.

[Spurminator]

Anyone going on Lou Dobbs loses a lot of credibility. Might as well book InfoWars next.

[Chris]

Anyone going on Lou Dobbs loses a lot of credibility. Might as well book InfoWars next.

Who is your preferred TV journalist since you are expert on credibility?

[Spurminator]

Who is your preferred TV journalist since you are expert on credibility?

Why do I have to have a preferred TV journalist? It's 2018, most people get their news online. Like any responsible person, I pull from a number of sources.

As far as TV, I like Vice's stuff. I don't watch hour-long cable news pundit shows. For one thing I'm not a disabled 65 year old.

[Chris]

Thanks for not answering the question.

[Spurminator]

Thanks for not answering the question.

Who's your favorite female polka singer?

[Spurminator]

What kind of sad life must you lead that it's beyond your comprehension that someone doesn't watch prime time cable news shows or have a "preferred TV journalist"?

[Chris]

Who's your favorite female polka singer?

Weird Al in drag

[Chris]

What kind of sad life must you lead that it's beyond your comprehension that someone doesn't watch prime time cable news shows or have a "preferred TV journalist"?

You were quick to shit on Dobbs but you don't watch "cable news." I figured you were talking out of your ass, but thanks for the quick confirmation.

[ElNono]

Mr Wright has a right to have whatever political leanings and bias, tbh

The part that’s kinda disingenuous is that he’s worked with alleged deep state administrations like the two previous Democrat and Republican administrations. I suppose Deep State good now...

[Spurminator]

You were quick to shit on Dobbs but you don't watch "cable news." I figured you were talking out of your ass, but thanks for the quick confirmation.

Right, because in the internet age and the age of political comedy shows, no one is ever exposed to cable TV punditry unless they actually watch said pundit's show.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1078518679812239360

[Winehole23]

wild NYT story.

Roy Moore was the target of a false flag info-op that planted the idea that Roy Moore's campaign was being amplified by a Russian botnet.

The org that did the false flag op, New Directions, in the very same time frame was delivering a report to the US Senate about the dangers of Russian social media to democracy.

1075773728514961408there's probably a bit of horn-tooting, but if genuine, the documents referred to in the NYT scoop @ this link are damning:



https://medium.com/@jeffgiesea/breaking-heres-the-after-action-report-from-the-alabama-senate-disinformation-campaign-e3edd854f17d

[Winehole23]

oddly enough, if the disinfo op moved the needle in Alabama, that would tend to reinforce the narrative New Knowledge (and many posters here) are pushing: that a modest investment in targeted, online electoral disinfo can pay off.

[Winehole23]

djohn2oo8, Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412), Spurs Homer (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52221), boutons_deux (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16047), any thoughts?

[Winehole23]

You’re trying to play gotcha?Nope, just wondering how these warriors of the keyboard will react to the same spooky stuff done by their own side, in a US Senate election.


neat, well then this should prove once and for all trump was aided by Russia then, right?I doubt the NYT scoop I referenced does anything of the sort.

[Winehole23]

I don't doubt the existence of Russian disinfo ops to influence foreign countries any more than i doubt the existence of US disinfo ops to influence foreign countries.

I do wonder whether such ops were more decisive in 2016 than a bad candidate who managed to lose to the most unpopular candidate ever with a 1 billion dollar war chest and a bad strategy that involved ignoring states she couldn't afford to lose.

I'll readily admit stories like the one I just posted cut against the grain of my skepticism; if the Alabama thing worked as well as advertised by its creators, it is plausible that a modest but well targeted operation could swing a very close nationwide election.

Maybe that was the whole point of the operation, to give the Russian-interference-causing-Trump-to-be-elected hypothesis more credibility.

Tbh, I don't know how one would prove or disprove that hypothesis.

[Winehole23]

at any rate, expect this sort of thing to become the new normal. the perception that the other side gains an edge through online disinfo ops will ensure that everyone does it, whether foreign or domestic.

[pgardn]

You’re trying to play gotcha?

neat, well then this should prove once and for all trump was aided by Russia then, right?

The story here is the American public being stupid enough to be influenced by absolute crap.
Both ends of the spectrum. Just look at the constant beetle dung dug up on this site from twitter referring back to some made up shit. The left does not believe this occurs on their end just because the right may have perfected it?

I should not even say perfected because it's a method fit for fungus brains existing under rocks.

[Winehole23]

How disingenuous. You’re here trying to false equivalence and what about a situation that is not the same. But it’s good that you’re upset by this, but not a president being elected by these same tactics at an infinitely greater scale.

Your truth is showing again. Not that it wasn’t easy to figure out before.Not false equivalence at all IMO. Both ops aimed at suppressing opposition voters and firing up the base in real elections..

Why do you think so?

[Winehole23]

But it’s good that you’re upset by this, but not a president being elected by these same tactics at an infinitely greater scale. You're exaggerating. The Russian op was finite and quantifiable.

As previously stated, I'm open to the idea a well-targeted disinfo op could swing a close national election.

What makes you so sure that's what happened?

[Winehole23]

are you not paying attention to what we know already from mueller, and the indictments of upper level trump campaign ops?

It really seems like you’re purposefully ignoring the fact that every fucking one of this people are linked to Russia, including the former AG who was caught lying about Russian contacts, to try to forward a bullshit narrative. I never said I doubted the existence of Russian disinfo ops. I don't think I've ever suggested the investigation into them was falsely or corruptly predicated.

I do agree that what's publicly disclosed looks bad for Team Trump. You seem pretty convinced about certain legal outcomes, me less so. Let the chips fall where they may.

I'm still not convinced the Russkies swung the election.

Can you prove they did?

[Winehole23]

here, I'll give you a leg up on your own hobby horse.

Kathleen Hall Jamieson has the strongest case I've seen for Russia getting Trump elected:

https://global.oup.com/academic/product/cyberwar-9780190915810?cc=us&lang=en&

[pgardn]

have you not paid attention to the rw airwaves the last 40 years? Jesus Christ hw was dead in the fucking water in 88 til they played the disinformation scare the stupid game.

Ailes was the architect of the strategy, look at dumb the average Fox News viviewer is. Keep em scared of anything different.

and forgive me for not feeling the least bit of sympathy for a piece of shit like Moore, whose entire political career, and shade from all of his deviance, was due to using that very model.

You don't think this happens on the left?
You seriously don't because there are no ideologues on the left and the left has smarter more discerning voters.
The subject was on social media other than radio and TV. They are noting and quantifying strategies which was more difficult 40 years ago. (Which of course I'd don't remember but have read about.) It's not about Roy Moore. It's bigger than your "the right has the pervert" theme.

[pgardn]

are you not paying attention to what we know already from mueller, and the indictments of upper level trump campaign ops?

It really seems like you’re purposefully ignoring the fact that every fucking one of this people are linked to Russia, including the former AG who was caught lying about Russian contacts, to try to forward a bullshit narrative.

Congratulations, you are a literate chris

WTF this is all over everywhere in the news?

The huge lesson from the election is that it was close. And that people like you don't get the message that a very significant number of Americans voted for Donald Fn Trump. Why don't you concentrate on how he won the Republican nomination against the huge Republican machine out of a huge group of candidates? Trump beat out the religious right, the Koch brothers on and on and this somehow is not significant enough for you to believe that Trump would have beaten Clinton without any Russian interference?

Are you just hell bent on seeing what you want? So you take the easy way out and claim its stolen. It's that simple.

[Spurs Homer]

I guess I trust the intelligence community says they did under oath. I trust collusion when the failed business fuck had to go to Russia to get money because no one would extend any more credit to him, I trust there’s collusion when every fucking person has ties to an enemy.

I also trust the stupidity and gullibility of people when they are scared. See this board.

And of of course you’re not convinced. It’s your side that’s immoral, and treasonous


Bonnerific doing work.

[Spurs Homer]

djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870), Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412), Spurs Homer (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52221), boutons_deux (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=16047), any thoughts?

Thoughts on what part?

That a pedophile had people calling women and offering them money to say that they were paid by the NY times to plant false stories/accusations?

That a pedo who was guilty as fuck got some people so disgusted that they resorted to his level-tactics?

I don't know about that story - first I heard of it - and not sure it has been properly investigated but let's see. Bonnerific pretty much nailed it though.

[Spurs Homer]

WTF this is all over everywhere in the news?

The huge lesson from the election is that it was close. And that people like you don't get the message that a very significant number of Americans voted for Donald Fn Trump. Why don't you concentrate on how he won the Republican nomination against the huge Republican machine out of a huge group of candidates? Trump beat out the religious right, the Koch brothers on and on and this somehow is not significant enough for you to believe that Trump would have beaten Clinton without any Russian interference?

Are you just hell bent on seeing what you want? So you take the easy way out and claim its stolen. It's that simple.


yup = literate Chris

[Winehole23]

the failed business fuck had to go to Russia to get money because no one would extend any more credit to him, I trust there’s collusion when every fucking person has ties to an enemy. Not sure it's quite accurate to characterize Russia as an enemy, but there's little doubt Trump is up to his eyeballs in Russian business connections. Trump's myriad conflicts of interests were and are in my mind the most important -- also the most obvious -- disqualification for the office he holds now.

I think he's crooked as hell. I have little doubt his creditors have leverage over him, and that his business ambitions queer his official acts.


I guess I trust the intelligence community says they did under oath. Sorry, whose testimony are you referring to here?

Who testified to what?


And of of course you’re not convinced. It’s your side that’s immoral, and treasonousI place a burning importance on the difference between hunches and verified knowledge. It's clear you don't.

It's hilarious that you think disagreement with you is treason against the USA.

Grandiose, much?

[pgardn]

Look at the makeup of the left in this country, and then look at the makeup of the right. You tell me whose more likely to fall in line behind propaganda and lies.

The idea that the party of trump is the same as the party of Reagan is complete and utter horseshit. It’s lurched into a homogeneous ugly hate filled cesspool filled with pieces of shit like retard mt. There’s no morality in that group. Only fear and hate.

Look at the left and you have blue conservative corporatists radical progressives, and everything in between. The umbrella is much larger, and does not fall in line easily.

You have to have people who are already scared and feel oppressed or overlooked. Obama won two straight elections basically on the strength of "he knows what the common AND downtrodden feel like".

[pgardn]

yup = literate Chris

Excellent.

Explain what you disagree with and why Chrispurter of the left.

[Winehole23]

check it out, curious to know what you think, Spurs Homer

[Winehole23]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by bonnerific (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=0#post0)
I guess I trust the intelligence community says they did under oath.



Sorry, whose testimony are you referring to here?

Who testified to what?

[Winehole23]

I didn't cry fake news. I've acknowledged Russian disinfo ops ITT, repeatedly.

[pgardn]

If you’re going to ignore all of the context of what happened and why to try to soften your guilt, it’s not really worth arguing with you.

But you just proved my last response to you as exactly correct. Homogeneous hatred based on propaganda and outright lies, directed at human shit, convincing them to vote to intentionally damage themselves because they can own libs.

How do you feel about all the bold faced lies trump tells every day? How do you feel about him lying to soldiers? How do you feel about all of your tax money going directly going into his pockets every time he golfs?

I held my nose and voted for Clinton like many other people who knew Donald Trump BEFORE he came into office.

This human shit you point out. You think the right is loaded with it but the left has none?
How the fck did Obama win? Part of what you call shit voted for him. Along with a whole lot of other shit (by your definition based on this rant, the uneducated)

Back to work.
You don't know that a significant number of very good people voted for Trump. All you see is that confederate flag behind toothless white people. Just like the pictures. Just like the right sees the black Muslim American getting handouts while helping brown lice infested criminals across the border.

[Isitjustme?]

Who is your preferred TV journalist since you are expert on credibility?

Tapper, Bret Baier, Chris Wallace, would be my picks for most credible

Least are Brian Williams for lying, and Maddow, Hannity, Dobbs for being partisan propagandists

[Spurs Homer]

I held my nose and voted for Clinton like many other people who knew Donald Trump BEFORE he came into office.

This human shit you point out. You think the right is loaded with it but the left has none?
How the fck did Obama win? Part of what you call shit voted for him. Along with a whole lot of other shit (by your definition based on this rant, the uneducated)

Back to work.
You don't know that a significant number of very good people voted for Trump. All you see is that confederate flag behind toothless white people. Just like the pictures. Just like the right sees the black Muslim American getting handouts while helping brown lice infested criminals across the border.



That might be true.

If they are STILL supporting him now - it makes them not so good people today. What did they learn?
They are nothing but white supremacist sympathizers.

[Winehole23]

Holy shit. Russia is not an enemy? Wtf? they had existing sanctions against them before trump lifted them (of course you ignore that)

you are not good at this. You admit something then blow off it’s importance. Yet it’s Obama’s fault trump was elected.

Jesus ChristAre we at war with Russia? That's the traditional and legal definition of the word.

Were you using it colloquially?

There are *still sanctions againt Russia; the US Congress doesn't seem to have paid much attention to the President's preferences

[Winehole23]

Elections are complicated; boiling them down to one or two factors probably obscures more than it reveals.