Game Thread: Spurs @ OKC -- Sun. (12/3) - 6:00/C (2:00am Riga Time)

[NASpurs]

Kyle will be back slower and less athletic than ever. He'll be fine.

[bklynspursfan]

Joff with a tough move in traffic

[daslicer]

Clearly a torn ACL unfortunately. Really fucking sucks. Thankfully Kawhi should be back tomorrow but it can't be ignored how huge Fathead has been this season.

I could be so many things. It could be an MCL or just a severely hyperextended knee.

[SPURt]

I thought I heard a screech, but then I heard him yell "Fuck" , 2 completely different voices
That was him. That’s why Bill said “we heard him scream” it sounded like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIaFtAKnqBU

[BatManu20]

King Joffrey dislocated his pointer finger. Spurs are dropping like flies out there.

[mexicanjunior]

Euroleague will gain a nice player once Slomo comes back in 2020...

[hater]

Holy shit that was digusting laverne


Wtf

[bklynspursfan]

That finger injury looked quite unpleasant.

[timtonymanu]

Joff getting hurt now. This is the current NBA. Everything goes the Warriors way. :yawn

[TheGreatYacht]

Damn so Fathead only had a November to show in his 4yr tenure. RIP. Heard they have good surgeons in China

[Keepin' it real]

Kyle sprained MCL ... out a month. Book it.

[sasaint]

Can we just concede and come back to SA before the whole team is decimated?

[SPURt]

Kawhi laughing :lol
Give him a break. He’s still learning emotions.

[marinoman]

I think it’s a acl tear

https://mobile.twitter.com/DefPenHoops/status/937500757552713728/video/1

[NASpurs]

Stern putting the hex on Pop for resting his players. :lol

[Robz4000]

Just forfeit at this point imo. Save as many Spurs as you can.

[hater]

Faggot pop resting half the team caused this

[Nathan89]

Hopefully that wasn't a season ender. We need his versatility tbh.

[SPURt]

Fuck. That finger. Lord. Joff took that like a champ.

[bklynspursfan]

Holy shit that was digusting laverne


Wtf

Had it popped back in place like a boss tbh

[TheGreatYacht]

Sad to say but the team has looked better without the head

[ElNono]

but, but, Duncan gave him 5 rings! Poop knows best!

[bklynspursfan]

That chick in the front row was totally freaked out by King Joffs finger.

[BatManu20]

King Joffrey dislocated his pointer finger. Spurs are dropping like flies out there.


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DQKt9bkWkAENV9u?format=jpg&name=large

[bklynspursfan]

Murray stripped again... C'mon man

[LittleCriminal]

Does this cement Kyles last season as a spur?

[Keepin' it real]

Bertrand!!

[TheGreatYacht]

Does this cement Kyles last season as a spur?
Injury or none, it was his last in the NBA for sure

[bklynspursfan]

Safe to say if we play OKC in the playoffs, Bertans must play.

[RD2191]

there is a god

Lmao

[dabom]

Does this cement Kyles last season as a spur?

Spurs might keep him now that he's gonna be a cheap 10 player money.

[BatManu20]

Wtf kind of bullshit call was that??

[timtonymanu]

Ugh Forbes, needed that.

[bklynspursfan]

U have a 3 on 1, go to the basket, don't settle for a freaking 3.

[timtonymanu]

Safe to say if we play OKC in the playoffs, Bertans must play.

Okc ain’t making it at this rate. :lol

[BatManu20]

3-on-1 fast break and we brick a 3... awful

[Keepin' it real]

Westbrook with the Bo Jackson hip injury.

[Darius Bieber]

I guess only Warrior fags can’t get injured.

[sasaint]

Wtf kind of bullshit call was that??

They called some phantom foul on Joff on OKC's previous possession that Sean and Bill didn't even acknowledge because they were too busy yakking about other stuff.

[K...]

Ok I'm back, dad about Kyle, but he'll be fine. This team has a chance. Okc could choke per par, just whoever gets hot will win

[$pursDynasty]

Mentally weak Thunderefs, this would be a disastrous loss for them.

[duncan2k5]

PPL keep talking about Murray getting stripped, but he has been playing well this game, tbh...maybe even the game's best player so far

[bklynspursfan]

Okc ain’t making it at this rate. :lol

Shit would be hilarious :lol

Wouldn't mind them playing the Warriors in round 1 tho

[sasaint]

Ugh Forbes, needed that.

Would have been so good for him and the team.

[BatManu20]

BP3 has been awful. Need something from him.

[marinoman]

Have been watching football, did pau get hurt too or is pop pissed at him

[bklynspursfan]

PPL keep talking about Murray getting stripped, but he has been playing well this game, tbh...maybe even the game's best player so far

He's played well, but the turnovers are a big issue. There's another one as I type this.

He's capable of being better than he's shown

[TheGreatYacht]

BP3 has been awful. Need something from him.
He's been average. Him being dark skin is the only thing he has in common with Simmons

[bklynspursfan]

Have been watching football, did pau get hurt too or is pop pissed at him

Neither. Pau or Patty haven't played this half

[sasaint]

Have been watching football, did pau get hurt too or is pop pissed at him

Nah. Pop has just tightened the rotation to the bottom eight guys on the roster.

[marinoman]

Neither. Pau or Patty haven't played this half
Ty

[BatManu20]

Spurs can’t catch a break suddenly. Not looking good.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah game over now. We can’t keep turning over the ball and missing shots and expect a win

[SAGirl]

Davis has had an awesome game.

[TheGreatYacht]

Stupid European ginger leaving George open

[timtonymanu]

Fucking Forbes gave that game away, clanking his 3s and doing his best Mills impression.

[bklynspursfan]

Yeah game over now. We can’t keep turning over the ball and missing shots and expect a win

Basically. OKC will only let us back in it 8-10x a game. I think we've reached our quota for tonight

[Darius Bieber]

That’s game. This team is trash.

[DAF86]

At some point Pop could have made an attempt to win the game, tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

DB!

[SAGirl]

Fucking Forbes gave that game away, clanking his 3s and doing his best Mills impression.
he has been off the entire game except for 1 three early.

[timtonymanu]

Basically. OKC will only let us back in it 8-10x a game. I think we've reached our quota for tonight

Our guys did good tonight, all things considered. Just sucks it came at the expense of Kyle

[bklynspursfan]

At some point Pop could have made an attempt to win the game, tbh.

How?

[duncan2k5]

forbes plays seriously bad defense...very Mills-like

[tholdren]

PPL keep talking about Murray getting stripped, but he has been playing well this game, tbh...maybe even the game's best player so far

Hahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahayayayayahahaha hah

[SAGirl]

DAvis cold blooded.

[K...]

Well, it was predictable OKC would ride their starters on the last six minutes. Great experience for whoever's left out three

[Robz4000]

:lmao refs took over here at the end

[BatManu20]

Good news.


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[DAF86]

How?

By playing more of Mills, Pau and Green, instead of running guys to the ground by playing them the entire second half.

[SAGirl]

Lauvergne fouling out... well

[bklynspursfan]

White took that shot like there was 1 sec left

[LakerHater]

Great news, is only a sprain!

[SAGirl]

By playing more of Mills, Pau and Green, instead of running guys to the ground by playing them the entire second half.
Kyle a left medial knee sprain whatever that is.
Pop killed Kyle.

[daslicer]

Great news, is only a sprain!

That's awesome.

[bklynspursfan]

By playing more of Mills, Pau and Green, instead of running guys to the ground by playing them the entire second half.

These guys got us back in it anyway. I agree about Green, the other guys (especially Pau being older) might be tougher to get them back in rhythm.

Ride it out with the guys who made it interesting. This is important in the big picture

[SAGirl]

Bryn finally, how does OKC give up on games like this. They don't deserve this win.

[tholdren]

Fuck. And he screamed like a bitch.

Did he cry? Not shocking hes always limping around

[LakerHater]

Murray should NEVER shoot!!!

[sasaint]

Dijon... Meh!

[bklynspursfan]

Wtf was Murray thinking. My God that was such a poor decision

[BatManu20]

Wtf was that Dejounte :lol

[dabom]

Doesn't look career ending. Just off for a couple of months.

[SAGirl]

Murray bad decision making dude.

[bklynspursfan]

Lmao no Foul for Forbes??? Wow

[sasaint]

Murray should NEVER shoot!!!

Certainly not that shot!

[SAGirl]

Murray should NEVER shoot!!!
not a contested shot like that. That was a bad decision by him.. run something pls. get a shot for one of the hot hands.

[BatManu20]

Fuck these refs tbh.

[tholdren]

Wtf was Murray thinking. My God that was such a poor decision

Dumbest player spurs ever drafted

[sasaint]

Lmao no Foul for Forbes??? Wow

Hammered. Sheesh!

[SAGirl]

It's admirable how guys have competed.

[bklynspursfan]

That no foul was such BS. Murray thinking he's Westbrook prior to that. Amazing that this game was winnable tbh

[BatManu20]

The last minute of this game has been an abortion. Jesus run a play guys.

[Robz4000]

:lmao Thunderefs having to step in against the Spurs' JV squad

[LakerHater]

....damn



..... moral win?

[K...]

So that's the game?

[bklynspursfan]

Hammered. Sheesh!

Super blatant. We could be down 1 with the ball hypothetically

[Darius Bieber]

Having no time outs hurting us

[Chinook]

Brandon Paul with the 10-cent head move to not attack to get the two-for-one.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

It's admirable how guys have competed.

Agreed, I haven’t complained once tonight

[SAGirl]

I commend the guys... they competed despite the situation Pop put them in.

[duncan2k5]

Hahahhahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahayayayayahahaha hah

who has played better this game?

[sasaint]

The last minute of this game has been an abortion. Jesus run a play guys.

No leadership at the end.

[BatManu20]

Lol BP3 not even close. He’s so bad now :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

Randall Paul does not belong with this team nor this league. Scrub ass dude

[Robz4000]

:lmao that fucking shot

[Chinook]

:lol OKC dropping confetti in a game Pop desperately tried to lose.

[cd98]

Love how Pop intentionally loses games where some veterans could’ve won in the last minute.

[Nathan89]

Gonna need sagirl to work her magic to heal Kyle:eyebrows

[duncan2k5]

murray should have driven the ball past adams, tbh...

[bklynspursfan]

Love how Pop intentionally loses games where some veterans could’ve won in the last minute.

How does that help these guys tho? Some exposure to these situations is important

[timtonymanu]

Watch us lose to Pistons tomorrow now. These tend to bite Pop in the ass. Feel like tonight was a lot more winnable.

[SAGirl]

Dejounte was very shaky on PG skills per se.. but one can see the potential he has... still this was a very very sad game. Heck of a loss, OKC didn't deserve it.

[Perry Mason]

Dropped in for last 4 minutes. Can you someone advise why in that last 4 minutes of a winnable game, there was not a single starter or bench player on the floor? Why was it the 3rd string? Has Pop lost his FUCKING MIND?

[tholdren]

who has played better this game?

Murray is so dumb

[K...]

Man, we could have used manu for like the six minutes riding both halves, but fuck pop loves this shit losing games.

[kuato]

Good game, great experience for the C Team

[xtremesteven33]

Great fucking L. :tu

[Hoops Czar]

Dropped in for last 4 minutes. Can you someone advise why in that last 4 minutes of a winnable game, there was not a single starter or bench player on the floor? Why was it the 3rd string? Has Pop lost his FUCKING MIND?

Coach is a joke.

[K...]

Dropped in for last 4 minutes. Can you someone advise why in that last 4 minutes of a winnable game, there was not a single starter or bench player on the floor? Why was it the 3rd string? Has Pop lost his FUCKING MIND?

This is all pop I am sad to report.

[bklynspursfan]

Watch us lose to Pistons tomorrow now. These tend to bite Pop in the ass. Feel like tonight was a lot more winnable.

Heck no. Especially if the Klaw returns. But even if he doesn't, with HOTS and LMA playing at a high level, I think these guys will respond

[sasaint]

I commend the guys... they competed despite the situation Pop put them in.

Yeah, I liked the fight. If a shot or two had fallen or we hadn't committed some of those TOs when the game got tight, we could have stolen this one. Bottom line: our young guys showed a lot of toughness tonight. :tu

[bklynspursfan]

Dropped in for last 4 minutes. Can you someone advise why in that last 4 minutes of a winnable game, there was not a single starter or bench player on the floor? Why was it the 3rd string? Has Pop lost his FUCKING MIND?

Because tonight was a game for the young guys. We play 5 games in 7 night, (including 1 tomorrow) and Pau/DG only played in the first half. It was these other guys who got us back in it.

[TimDunkem]

Honestly, I like what I saw out of the young guys. OKC should be ashamed that the Spurs had a chance to take them to overtime.

[SAGirl]

Watch us lose to Pistons tomorrow now. These tend to bite Pop in the ass. Feel like tonight was a lot more winnable.
Not wishing ill on my Spurs but this was a very winnable game right to the end and it's bitter he chose to play a super streamlined rotation. It's a miracle nobody else got hurt, Joff got a finger almost yanked out. Kyle busted a knee. The guys competed hard.

They will be fine though. Hopefully Kawhi comes back soon.

GWS Kyle..

[BillMc]

Moral victory, I guess. OKC are a wreck, tbh.

Glad that Anderson's injury seems less horrendous than it appeared.

[SAGirl]

Honestly, I like what I saw out of the young guys. OKC should be ashamed that the Spurs had a chance to take them to overtime.
they were straight up not playing defense leaving shooters open etc. OKC didn't deserve this win and will not do well rest of the season IMO.
This was a cake Pop served them and almost took the cake too.

[Thunder1]

He's played well, but the turnovers are a big issue. There's another one as I type this.

He's capable of being better than he's shown


Honestly, I like what I saw out of the young guys. OKC should be ashamed that the Spurs had a chance to take them to overtime.
Yep...

[SAGirl]

Moral victory, I guess. OKC are a wreck, tbh.

Glad that Anderson's injury seems less horrendous than it appeared.
I don't know about that, sprains have severities and his didn't look good. He will be out for a while.
good thing, it won't be a career ender.

Now he deserves to take all the time he needs to get better.

[sasaint]

:lmao Thunderefs having to step in against the Spurs' JV squad

True. OKC might well have lost this game if the Thunderefs hadn't bailed them out on several important calls when the game got close.

[DAF86]

Spurs would have won this one if Pop wouldn't have done his best to prevent it, tbh.

[TD 21]

At some point Pop could have made an attempt to win the game, tbh.

Exactly. I'm sick and tired of this asshole getting a free pass and people not only laughing off his shtick, but giving him credit when they play a competitive game in spite of him. He's making $11M a year and seemingly intentionally trying to sabotage his own team. Before the apologists respond, I'm not even talking about resting players. No matter who is playing, it should go without saying that he should always be coaching to win. Some of the match-ups and lack of play calls tonight, particularly on the 2nd to last offensive possession, were embarrassing.

So is the roster construction. 2 players who can credibly play center and arguably 8 guards, 1 of which who can somewhat create and he's near 40 in terms of mileage and coming off of a debilitating injury. Ridiculous.

[$pursDynasty]

Spurs don't do it for moral victories but short of the upset win, this was the best possible outcome, aside from the Kyle injury. Pyrrhic victory for the Thunderefs

[Hoops Czar]

Honestly, I like what I saw out of the young guys. OKC should be ashamed that the Spurs had a chance to take them to overtime.

They should be ashamed for being one of the worst teams in the league, not for almost losing to the Spurs scrubs. Pop decides to rest his player's against a scrubby team like the Thunder but chooses to play them against a very tough Pistons. That's like losing two games for the price of one.

[sasaint]

Good game, great experience for the C Team

Agreed. But Pop didn't seem to coach them very hard in a game that the C Team could have won. A shame that BP3 didn't nail that last look.

[BatManu20]

Best part of this game is that Kyle’s injury doesn’t seem as serious previously thought.

[bklynspursfan]

What does Pop putting Mills/Green/Pau do? I get people here view every single game as win or die, but do u guys seriously not understand planning for the future and allowing guys to grow?

What the hell would it do for some of those guys who played hard to be subbed out for guys who would be cold/rusty and maaaaybe win that game?

How would it look if they come in and things get worse? Give these guys the experience and exposure and hope for the best next time this scenario comes around. (Note for the overreactors here, this scenario will happen again)

I.E : Anderson was likely better this season due to the exposure/experience he had when Kawhi went out in the playoffs, even if it was 4 games. This stuff matters

[sasaint]

Exactly. I'm sick and tired of this asshole getting a free pass and people not only laughing off his shtick, but giving him credit when they play a competitive game in spite of him. He's making $11M a year and seemingly intentionally trying to sabotage his own team. Before the apologists respond, I'm not even talking about resting players. No matter who is playing, it should go without saying that he should always be coaching to win. Some of the match-ups and lack of play calls tonight, particularly on the 2nd to last offensive possession, were embarrassing.

So is the roster construction. 2 players who can credibly play center and arguably 8 guards, 1 of which who can somewhat create and he's near 40 in terms of mileage and coming off of a debilitating injury. Ridiculous.

Yeah, Pop really just didn't earn his salary tonight. Even with a lot of stuff not falling our way, including the officiating, Pop might have gotten a W if he had been willing to just coach the guys he was playing.

[BatManu20]

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[Ed Helicopter Jones]

C team almost pulled out a victory. Dijon with 3 blown passes and a couple of horrible shots down the stretch. No one looking to make the extra pass. Multiple airballs. Discombobulated mess, and we only lose by 3.

Thunder must be horrible.

[SAGirl]

Gonna need sagirl to work her magic to heal Kyle:eyebrows
nah not even joking about that.
Spurs will be just fine and Kawhi is coming back soon anyways.

It's just sad to see, this takes opportunities from him and he was having a good season.

[sasaint]

nah not even joking about that.
Spurs will be just fine and Kawhi is coming back soon anyways.

It's just sad to see, this takes opportunities from him and he was having a good season.

:tu

[tbdog]

That no call on Forbes drive. :bang

[Hoops Czar]

Yeah, Pop really just didn't earn his salary tonight. Even with a lot of stuff not falling our way, including the officiating, Pop might have gotten a W if he had been willing to just coach the guys he was playing.

Pop is one of the worst coaches in the NBA at drawing up plays for late game execution. Sometimes, It's masked by Kawhi or LMA who will the team to victory despite poor coaching.

[bklynspursfan]

Pop is one of the worst coaches in the NBA at drawing up plays for late game execution. Sometimes, It's masked by Kawhi or LMA who will the team to victory despite poor coaching.

I've seen some hate on Pop, but one of the worst at drawing up plays late in games? You might take the cake

[SAGirl]

Dropped in for last 4 minutes. Can you someone advise why in that last 4 minutes of a winnable game, there was not a single starter or bench player on the floor? Why was it the 3rd string? Has Pop lost his FUCKING MIND?
Pop played the entire deep bench for the entire second half. Danny, Patty and Pau made appearances for the first half, then in the second half they didn't. Kyle got injured really bad, sprained a knee and it didn't look good and Joff almost decapitated a finger.

Pop was left with I think 7 guys.
Dijon ended up playing 40 minutes.

For a coach who is so keen on rest he really outdid himself in this one. I was really pleasantly surprised by the play of rook White, first game back from an injury and he played really well. I do see some of Danny on him, he's got good hands for blocks and steals, very good.
this is what Pop did:
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[MaNu4Tres]

C team almost pulled out a victory. Dijon with 3 blown passes and a couple of horrible shots down the stretch. No one looking to make the extra pass. Multiple airballs. Discombobulated mess, and we only lose by 3.

Thunder must be horrible.

Don't forget his 17, 11, 5, 3 and 1.

[Hoops Czar]

I've seen some hate on Pop, but one of the worst at drawing up plays late in games? You might take the cake
75% coaching, 25% player execution.

[sasaint]

That no call on Forbes drive. :bang

That was huge, but there were a few others.

[timtonymanu]

Heck no. Especially if the Klaw returns. But even if he doesn't, with HOTS and LMA playing at a high level, I think these guys will respond

That’s true. Just that Pistons are a mystery team with nothing to lose, although they’ve fallen back to earth as of late. OKC being a bad matchup for the Spurs seems to be a thing of the past, even if OKC figures it out. They match up horribly with the Spurs now.

Paul George is no KD and Ibaka >> Melo in the OKC system.

[Hoops Czar]

Pop played the entire deep bench for the entire second half. Danny, Patty and Pau made appearances for the first half, then in the second half they didn't. Kyle got injured really bad, sprained a knee and it didn't look good and Joff almost decapitated a finger.

Pop was left with I think 7 guys.
Dijon ended up playing 40 minutes.

For a coach who is so keen on rest he really outdid himself in this one. I was really pleasantly surprised by the play of rook White, first game back from an injury and he played really well. I do see some of Danny on him, he's got good hands for blocks and steals, very good.
this is what Pop did:
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Pop has no problem benching Murray for Summer League when he desperately needs development and the games mean shit but, he has no problem playing him 40 minutes in a meaningful regular season game. Joke coach!

[SAGirl]

Exactly. I'm sick and tired of this asshole getting a free pass and people not only laughing off his shtick, but giving him credit when they play a competitive game in spite of him. He's making $11M a year and seemingly intentionally trying to sabotage his own team. Before the apologists respond, I'm not even talking about resting players. No matter who is playing, it should go without saying that he should always be coaching to win. Some of the match-ups and lack of play calls tonight, particularly on the 2nd to last offensive possession, were embarrassing.

So is the roster construction. 2 players who can credibly play center and arguably 8 guards, 1 of which who can somewhat create and he's near 40 in terms of mileage and coming off of a debilitating injury. Ridiculous.
I do consider this game a low point in Pop's recent track.

The players competed really hard. I bet glory goes to POp that they even were this close to win it, but it was a battle out there and yes, he didn't provide guidance to Murray at the end or take a time out or try to win that game.

It is like a teaching experience I am thinking but it's irresponsible. It definitely was despite everything a game they could have won.

I don't think they will lose tomorrow personally but if they do, this will indeed bite the team in the arse.

[SAGirl]

Pop has no problem benching Murray for Summer League when he desperately needs development and the games mean shit but, he has no problem playing him 40 minutes in a meaningful regular season game. Joke coach!
well I never even knew why Murray was benched in summer league, he needed as much experience as the team could spare them and the summer league is a development opportunity nothing else. I think he might have been involved in trade talks... otherwise that didn't make sense.

[SAGirl]

That’s true. Just that Pistons are a mystery team with nothing to lose, although they’ve fallen back to earth as of late. OKC being a bad matchup for the Spurs seems to be a thing of the past, even if OKC figures it out. They match up horribly with the Spurs now.

Paul George is no KD and Ibaka >> Melo in the OKC system.
not only that, they miss Kanter... he was a monster offensive rebounder and OKC chucks up a lot of shots plus Westbrooks' reckless drives do collapse defenses leaving those bigs to feast. Kanter was a Spur killer while he was in OKC.

[bklynspursfan]

That’s true. Just that Pistons are a mystery team with nothing to lose, although they’ve fallen back to earth as of late. OKC being a bad matchup for the Spurs seems to be a thing of the past, even if OKC figures it out. They match up horribly with the Spurs now.

Paul George is no KD and Ibaka >> Melo in the OKC system.

So true, I fear OKC so much less these days.. we had a crazy comeback win without TP/Kawhi, and almost won with 5 rotation guys out Pau/DG/Patty playing 1 half.

Pistons are a question mark that's for sure, never know which team will show up. If we show up, it shouldn't matter

[bklynspursfan]

I do consider this game a low point in Pop's recent track.

The players competed really hard. I bet glory goes to POp that they even were this close to win it, but it was a battle out there and yes, he didn't provide guidance to Murray at the end or take a time out or try to win that game.

It is like a teaching experience I am thinking but it's irresponsible. It definitely was despite everything a game they could have won.

I don't think they will lose tomorrow personally but if they do, this will indeed bite the team in the arse.

Curious why you think it's irresponsible? What better way to prep these guys then to give them valuable , meaningful NBA minutes?

I know you're all for the young guys getting time, meaningful minutes mean much more than garbage time.

[DAF86]

What does Pop putting Mills/Green/Pau do? I get people here view every single game as win or die, but do u guys seriously not understand planning for the future and allowing guys to grow?

What the hell would it do for some of those guys who played hard to be subbed out for guys who would be cold/rusty and maaaaybe win that game?

How would it look if they come in and things get worse? Give these guys the experience and exposure and hope for the best next time this scenario comes around. (Note for the overreactors here, this scenario will happen again)

I.E : Anderson was likely better this season due to the exposure/experience he had when Kawhi went out in the playoffs, even if it was 4 games. This stuff matters

What does putting Green/Mills/Pau do? Well, maybe winning the game; but most important of all giving the guys on the court a fucking breather for a couple of minutes. I'm sure the experience would have been pretty much the same with 4 or 5 minutes of rest. Actually, it might have been even better because they could have played the last minutes of the game with more energy.

[bklynspursfan]

What does putting Green/Mills/Pau do? Well, maybe winning the game; but most important of all giving the guys on the court a fucking breather for a couple of minutes. I'm sure the experience would have been pretty much the same with 4 or 5 minutes of rest. Actually, it might have been even better because they could have played the last minutes of the game with more energy.

Did it seem to you they needed a rest, or just play better? Cause I saw a number of stupid turnovers that all the rest in the world wouldn't have solved. All the energy wouldn't have kept Adams off the boards either, Pau dam sure wasn't gonna change that.

Defense Was ok, they scored 36 2nd half points and 14 in the 4th. It was winnable with that unit, but they made some mistakes that they can now learn from. Murray especially

[DAF86]

Did it seem to you they needed a rest, or just play better? Cause I saw a number of stupid turnovers that all the rest in the world wouldn't have solved. All the energy wouldn't have kept Adams off the boards either, Pau dam sure wasn't gonna change that.

Defense Was ok, they scored 36 2nd half points and 14 in the 4th. It was winnable with that unit, but they made some mistakes that they can now learn from. Murray especially

So playing Pau, our biggest guy, instead of going with Bertans as center, when Lauvergne had to sit, wouldn't have helped with rebounding? :lol

And yeah, folks need to rest. You don't have to be a fucking genius to realize that playing guys for 24 straight minutes isn't a winning strategy, tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

So playing Pau, our biggest guy, instead of going with Bertans as center, when Lauvergne had to sit, wouldn't have helped with rebounding? :lol

And yeah, folks need to rest. You don't have to be a fucking genius to realize that playing guys for 24 straight minutes isn't a winning strategy, tbh.

Pretty sure no one played 24 mins straight..

And yea, Adams is a mobile physical guy. Bringing in Pau after Joff fouled out would've made him look slower than he already does.

[BillMc]

Davis with 5 blocks in 29 minutes.

[DAF86]

Pretty sure no one played 24 mins straight..

And yea, Adams is a mobile physical guy. Bringing in Pau after Joff fouled out would've made him look slower than he already does.

If they didn't play 24 straight, they played 20 or 19. Either way, you will be more gassed than usual to finish the game.

And I don't care how slow you think Gasol would look. Having him oit there would have helped the Spurs rebounding a lot more than running with Bertans as center, tbh.

Seriously son, there's no need to justify every little fucking thing.

[Hoops Czar]

If they didn't play 24 straight, they played 20 or 19. Either way, you will be more gassed than usual to finish the game.

And I don't care how slow you think Gasol would look. Having him oit there would have helped the Spurs rebounding a lot more than running with Bertans as center, tbh.

Seriously son, there's no need to justify every little fucking thing.
Pop didn't even think it was important to play Duncan in game 6 of the NBA finals when a single rebound wins the ship. The guy is overrated as fuck.

[bklynspursfan]

If they didn't play 24 straight, they played 20 or 19. Either way, you will be more gassed than usual to finish the game.

And I don't care how slow you think Gasol would look. Having him oit there would have helped the Spurs rebounding a lot more than running with Bertans as center, tbh.

Seriously son, there's no need to justify every little fucking thing.

Seriously sport, there's no need to bitch after every little decision or non-decision you think would make the team better.

Like tonight literally has no bearings in the big picture.

Small sacrifices for the end result

[Spurtacular]

KGB Pop waving the white flag in OKC. Not unexpected.

[kuato]

It was a good game, i don't know why there is people mad about this loss.

[DAF86]

Seriously sport, there's no need to bitch after every little decision or non-decision you think would make the team better.

Like tonight literally has no bearings in the big picture.

Small sacrifices for the end result

Thing is I don't bitch about every little thing, in fact I'm mostly a positive poster. You on the other hand are a joke of a poster whose shtick is to justify every single Spurs/Pop's decision no matter what. You are just as bad as the trolls that complain about everything, tbh.

[SAGirl]

Did it seem to you they needed a rest, or just play better? Cause I saw a number of stupid turnovers that all the rest in the world wouldn't have solved. All the energy wouldn't have kept Adams off the boards either, Pau dam sure wasn't gonna change that.

Defense Was ok, they scored 36 2nd half points and 14 in the 4th. It was winnable with that unit, but they made some mistakes that they can now learn from. Murray especially
Exhaustion compromises decision making as well as nit having sufficient veteran players to help out. It's basic common sense. Not even the tank team's put team a out there without a veteran or 2.

I know the trolls smell blood but the run started with Kyle in the game. If he doesn't go out or Joff doesn't foul out that's another couple of legs. It can't be helped they were out of the game for different reasons but clearly a 5 man rotation is crazy.

Murray made mistakes of judgement which maybe with a little veteran help don't happen. It's all speculation but I don't think the guys were set up to succeed. Rather I was wishing that game was over quickly with no more injuries bc guys played too many minutes compared to what they are used to. Frankly I was wishing no one else got hurt the entire 4th Q.

[SAGirl]

It was a good game, i don't know why there is people mad about this loss.
I m only upset that Kyle got hurt personally
This was a scheduled loss but guys got njured trying to win this game for Pop and the ones on the floor competed very hard. Tough loss considering.

[bklynspursfan]

Thing is I don't bitch about every little thing, in fact I'm mostly a positive poster. You on the other hand are a joke of a poster whose shtick is to justify every single Spurs/Pop's decision no matter what. You are just as bad as the trolls that complain about everything, tbh.

Your first reaction tonight is to bitch about coulda shoulda wouldas...Pop sucks, wtf was he thinking, etc...

My reaction is realizing the fact that the guys who played , played their asses off , and had a chance to win despite multiple okc runs and shitty reffing.

You're far from a 'mostly postivie poster', that's BS. Everytime I see you post it's bitching about some decision you think would've made more sense.

But sure, I'm as bad as the trolls. Keep complaining and being miserable tbh

[raybies]

Great game tonight. I admit too that I would've like Pop to put Pau or Green in to win this game cause it was very winnable but dam the experience these kids got in the end was huge. Pop's not stupid. He knew what he was doing and I'm sure had very valid reasons, like not calling a play in particular. It's clear he had a plan and he stuck to it. i applaud him for that. He's not like the rest of the sellouts out there in this world....

It's funny cause before the game people were saying scheduled loss etc and because we had a chance to win people start blaming LMAO. Look at the players that had big games, none of them were Danny, Pau, or Patty etc. What were they gonna do?? Lead us to victory LoL These kids did what kids do, they made mistakes. Better this loss on the kids then Danny, Pau, and Patty, cause they are gonna get better. That's some meaty motivation. The old guys are already set in their ways. They know why they lost. Don't need them taking the blame. The kids will take it on themselves and get better. And desire and want to do better and get better. Masterful coaching tbh

Spurfan still playing checkers...

Pop we trust :flipoff

[raybies]

Thing is I don't bitch about every little thing, in fact I'm mostly a positive poster. You on the other hand are a joke of a poster whose shtick is to justify every single Spurs/Pop's decision no matter what. You are just as bad as the trolls that complain about everything, tbh.
postive poster lmao

[NASpurs]

I m only upset that Kyle got hurt personally
This was a scheduled loss but guys got njured trying to win this game for Pop and the ones on the floor competed very hard. Tough loss considering.

What? No way. Pistons are a better team than OKC and on the second leg of a B2B. Tomorrow's game would had been a scheduled loss while this one was there for the picking, and I'm not even playing the hindsight game. Seems more of a manufactured loss than anything else.

[raybies]

Exhaustion compromises decision making as well as nit having sufficient veteran players to help out. It's basic common sense. Not even the tank team's put team a out there without a veteran or 2.

I know the trolls smell blood but the run started with Kyle in the game. If he doesn't go out or Joff doesn't foul out that's another couple of legs. It can't be helped they were out of the game for different reasons but clearly a 5 man rotation is crazy.

Murray made mistakes of judgement which maybe with a little veteran help don't happen. It's all speculation but I don't think the guys were set up to succeed. Rather I was wishing that game was over quickly with no more injuries bc guys played too many minutes compared to what they are used to. Frankly I was wishing no one else got hurt the entire 4th Q.
We should be talking about DJ's pull up vinny, with Adams on him. He could of easily got to the rim or collapsed the defense, but he settled. And Pop then proceeded to take his PG duties from him. Another thing, I would of like to see Paul kick it to Bertans for the three at the end. I was screaming to my friend for him to pass it. He was looking to pass it and took it because. But people want to point fingers at Pop when the kids inexperience is what lost the game, which is the same inexperience that he is trying rectify by giving them experience.

[raybies]

and if being a fan is a troll now then fu** it, I'll be the first troll in history to say I'm a troll.:hat

[DAF86]

Your first reaction tonight is to bitch about coulda shoulda wouldas...Pop sucks, wtf was he thinking, etc...

My reaction is realizing the fact that the guys who played , played their asses off , and had a chance to win despite multiple okc runs and shitty reffing.

You're far from a 'mostly postivie poster', that's BS. Everytime I see you post it's bitching about some decision you think would've made more sense.

But sure, I'm as bad as the trolls. Keep complaining and being miserable tbh

My first reaction was that this game would have been an easy win if Pop would have actually tried to win it because it is an obvious conclusion to get from watching this game. How much could have hurt giving Pau, Green and Mills a couple more minutes in the 4th so that the other guys could have rested a bit?

Either way, I'm not specially mad with this loss. It was a loss that I anticipated and I agreed with the idea of resting players. I'm not freaking out, I'm just giving an opinion on something I think it would have resulted on a Spurs win and it wouldn't have hurt the big guns stamina going forward. Seriously, how hurtful could have been giving Mills, Pau and Green the first 4 minutes of the 4th quarter? Would those 4 minutes have been the difference between playing or not playing tomorrow? Of course not, but it could have been the difference between a win and a loss tonight.

And about me not being a positive guy, just let me show you some of the threads I have started over the years:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270900
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254462
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254667
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201576
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199361

[DAF86]

postive poster lmao

Just because I'm not a parody poster like you that jacks off to everything the Spurs do, it doesn't mean I'm not positive, tbh.

It just means that I have an opinion of my own and care to provide diversitiy and depth on my takes about the team I like.

[raybies]

Just because I'm not a parody poster like you that jacks off to everything the Spurs do, it doesn't mean I'm not positive, tbh.

It just means that I have an opinion of my own and care to provide diversitiy and depth on my takes about the team I like.
I pick my arguments unlike what you care to believe. It's just easy to defend a winning team, culture, and organization.

[Ice009]

Just watched the game. Couldn't watch it live. Pop's coaching was fucking trash. All those people who say he was teaching a lesson, what lesson is that? No guidance whatsoever from the mail it in coach. No timeout, no direction, no guidance, no nothing.

The game was only close and winnable because the young guys played their asses off. It had nothing whatsoever do with any kind of coaching.

Oh, and I forgot to mention my usual disgust with resting players. If you're healthy, you should play except for a few small circumstances and exceptions, you should always play healthy players - just limit their minutes if you don't want to overwork them. You're just asking for bad, bad karma by sitting healthy players. Could the Anderson injury been avoided? Maybe, maybe not, but I believe it could have. I've always believed that you're asking for trouble by resting healthy players.

[LakerHater]

https://images2.imgbox.com/8f/ee/GhBheBNb_o.gif

[tbdog]

You want them to play hard. We don't want another game 2 concede against the Warriors ever again.

[SAGirl]

We should be talking about DJ's pull up vinny, with Adams on him. He could of easily got to the rim or collapsed the defense, but he settled. And Pop then proceeded to take his PG duties from him. Another thing, I would of like to see Paul kick it to Bertans for the three at the end. I was screaming to my friend for him to pass it. He was looking to pass it and took it because. But people want to point fingers at Pop when the kids inexperience is what lost the game, which is the same inexperience that he is trying rectify by giving them experience.
He could have won that game if he really wanted to. You know that. It was a scheduled loss and he was going to let the guys do what they could undermanned. He’s done this over the years. I am not surprised.

Maybe this teaching moment helps Dejounte long term as well as others. There were guys who stood out. Maybe some earned minutes.

But it’s fine to admit he sacrificed the win in the name of resting players and teaching moments. I am fine with it but can also be critical. He’s lucky no one else got hurt.

I know you aren’t a troll btw

[SAGirl]

https://images2.imgbox.com/8f/ee/GhBheBNb_o.gif
Was that him not able to watch Lauvergne’s finger?

[Ice009]

He could have won that game if he really wanted to. You know that. It was a scheduled loss and he was going to let the guys do what they could undermanned. He’s done this over the years. I am not surprised.

Maybe this teaching moment helps Dejounte long term as well as others. There were guys who stood out. Maybe some earned minutes.

But it’s fine to admit he sacrificed the win in the name of resting players and teaching moments. I am fine with it but can also be critical. He’s lucky no one else got hurt.

I know you aren’t a troll btw

How much teaching did he do? What exactly did he teach? How to hang his players out to dry when the game is on the line and let them figure it out themselves? If he didn't want to play other players, he could have at the VERY LEAST called some timeouts to talk to them and try and teach them something.

[SAGirl]

Just watched the game. Couldn't watch it live. Pop's coaching was fucking trash. All those people who say he was teaching a lesson, what lesson is that? No guidance whatsoever from the mail it in coach. No timeout, no direction, no guidance, no nothing.

The game was only close and winnable because the young guys played their asses off. It had nothing whatsoever do with any kind of coaching.

Oh, and I forgot to mention my usual disgust with resting players. If you're healthy, you should play except for a few small circumstances and exceptions, you should always play healthy players - just limit their minutes if you don't want to overwork them. You're just asking for bad, bad karma by sitting healthy players. Could the Anderson injury been avoided? Maybe, maybe not, but I believe it could have. I've always believed that you're asking for trouble by resting healthy players.
I definitely think he taxed the bodies of undersized guards and forwards playing them as bigs and put them in situations where getting hurt was predictable. Go back to the beginning of this thread I was worried someone was going to get hurt from the beginning.

[SAGirl]

How much teaching did he do? What exactly did he teach? How to hang his players out to dry when the game is on the line and let them figure it out themselves? If he didn't want to play other players, he could have at the VERY LEAST called some timeouts to talk to them and try and teach them something.
Not much. Gathered film to watch with Dejounte and others is my guess.

[LakerHater]

Was that him not able to watch Lauvergne’s finger?
yeah, lol he called himself a weiner

[spurs10]

Was that him not able to watch Lauvergne’s finger? Yes! :lol The kids played hard, I'm not so sure we get closer than a great chance to tie the game just because Pau or Danny were in there. Sorry about KA.

[raybies]

Yes! :lol The kids played hard, I'm not so sure we get closer than a great chance to tie the game just because Pau or Danny were in there. Sorry about KA.
felt the same way.

[raybies]

He could have won that game if he really wanted to. You know that. It was a scheduled loss and he was going to let the guys do what they could undermanned. He’s done this over the years. I am not surprised.

Maybe this teaching moment helps Dejounte long term as well as others. There were guys who stood out. Maybe some earned minutes.

But it’s fine to admit he sacrificed the win in the name of resting players and teaching moments. I am fine with it but can also be critical. He’s lucky no one else got hurt.

I know you aren’t a troll btw
Just watching the game and how it played out, just appeared this game was about Murray imo. I know how that sounds and all but my suspicion is that Pop wanted to spur his growth and decision making. I think that's why he didn't call a timeout and draw a play. He wanted to put the ball in Murray's hands and see what he did. Kind of like Falco in the Replacements lol. Sorry for my cheesy reference. Anywho, it didn't end well, but I think this is a game that Murray takes to heart because it was personal. He was jawing at Westbrook a lot and playing up to him. It just sucks he took that bad J at the end. That was a Westbrook shot and I'm sure Pop wanted more.

[John B]

It was time for the young guys to earn minutes, and some of them did. Moreover the learning experience they got was great. In Pops we trust :bobo

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

How much teaching did he do? What exactly did he teach? How to hang his players out to dry when the game is on the line and let them figure it out themselves? If he didn't want to play other players, he could have at the VERY LEAST called some timeouts to talk to them and try and teach them something.

They didn't have timeouts because they used 2 on Anderson's and Lauvergne's injuries.

Pop did fine, he let the guys who got them back in the game try to win it. He couldn't bring cold guys off the bench for the last few minutes, that's a recipe for injuries.

[raybies]

They didn't have timeouts because they used 2 on Anderson's and Lauvergne's injuries.

Pop did fine, he let the guys who got them back in the game try to win it. He couldn't bring cold guys off the bench for the last few minutes, that's a recipe for injuries.
Yeah your right I forgot about that. Dang those injuries had a big impact on the game. Kudos for you to pointing that out.

[spurs10]

They didn't have timeouts because they used 2 on Anderson's and Lauvergne's injuries.

Pop did fine, he let the guys who got them back in the game try to win it. He couldn't bring cold guys off the bench for the last few minutes, that's a recipe for injuries. Yep!


Yeah your rightI forgot about that. Dang those injuries had a big impact on the game. Kudos for you to pointing that out. :toast
I think we should look at games like this one and the Detroit game as being one of 5 in 7 nights. That's quite a load! It's naive to think you don't have to strategize and consider everyone's minute and do your best to keep them healthy.

[SAGirl]

Yeah your right I forgot about that. Dang those injuries had a big impact on the game. Kudos for you to pointing that out.
I don’t give a damn about the trolling. Spurs frontcourt were really undermanned with injuries to begin with and it was taken to a whole new level with the resting in this game. It was really predictable someone was going to get hurt considering. It was probably a little bit careless from Pop to not even have Costello available to play in this game.

Not really sour about the loss bc I really expected it, though it was a winnable game Imo. Just didn’t like the plan they had to play so obviously undermanned.

Kylw ended up getting hurt in a meaningless regular season game that was meant to teach Dijon a lesson. Could have had Costello play in the second half instead.

Not going to change my view on it but I am not hating.

[r0drig0lac]

It's admirable how guys have competed.

[raybies]

Yep!

:toast
I think we should look at games like this one and the Detroit game as being one of 5 in 7 nights. That's quite a load! It's naive to think you don't have to strategize and consider everyone's minute and do your best to keep them healthy.
Yeah, the 5 games in 7 nights is pretty brutal. Just as bad as 4 in 5. But in my estimation, Pop figured OKC at home would be tougher, and looked to protect the fort.

[raybies]

I don’t give a damn about the trolling. Spurs frontcourt were really undermanned with injuries to begin with and it was taken to a whole new level with the resting in this game. It was really predictable someone was going to get hurt considering. It was probably a little bit careless from Pop to not even have Costello available to play in this game.

Not really sour about the loss bc I really expected it, though it was a winnable game Imo. Just didn’t like the plan they had to play so obviously undermanned.

Kylw ended up getting hurt in a meaningless regular season game that was meant to teach Dijon a lesson. Could have had Costello play in the second half instead.

Not going to change my view on it but I am not hating.
hell hath no fury like a woman's scorn.... :) I'll just back off but when Kyle went down I was in complete shock. Felt so bad cause he's enjoying a breakout campaign and you just never want to see that happen to someone who is rooting himself and building a foundation.

[duncan2k5]

I didnt mind this game, TBH...just wish he would play the young guys more when the big dogs are playing...Bertans played well, and if he gets more playing time, his decision making and confidence will only increase...also ppl dont seem to understand how important it is to gain experience playing against specific players...you understand tendencies that make you attack or defend them a certain way the nxt time you play them...

DJ played well, IMO...not great, but well...had some turnovers, but im not gonna act like his turnovers are somehow worse than when any of our other players get stripped...even tony has thrown the ball out of bounds on drives, especially as a young PG...it happens...as he gets more experience, he will understand what works, and what doesnt...he will understand that westbrook reaches from the back, so to protect the ball from that, etc...

he attempted a silly pull- up, hero ball shot vs dams, and hopefully this is his kobe moment (when kobe tried to be a hero and airballed several times vs the jazz in his rookie year)...however looking at the bigger picture, at least he doesnt shy from these moments...just needs to make better decisions...he shouldnt be pulling up for jumpers over centers at this point in his development...he was destroying them almost everytime he drove to the rim either with his passing or finishing, why stop?

and another point ppl were missing.......boy was he giving it to russ! let's be real...if it were patty or parker, russ would be posting them up all game, thus causing our defense to break down...russ had a hard time vs DJ, and DJ forced turnovers several times, including the 1-on 1 possession in the 4th...let's giv the kid credit on his D...point guard defense is important in this league today, especially since every single contender we have to go against has a beast of a PG we need to defend against

[bklynspursfan]

My first reaction was that this game would have been an easy win if Pop would have actually tried to win it because it is an obvious conclusion to get from watching this game. How much could have hurt giving Pau, Green and Mills a couple more minutes in the 4th so that the other guys could have rested a bit?

For better or for worse, if Pop has a rest plan in place, barring some unordinary circumstance, he's going to stick with it. I mean those guys who were out there had an easy chance to win too, but Murray made some questionable choices and the officiating was terrible.


Either way, I'm not specially mad with this loss. It was a loss that I anticipated and I agreed with the idea of resting players. I'm not freaking out, I'm just giving an opinion on something I think it would have resulted on a Spurs win and it wouldn't have hurt the big guns stamina going forward. Seriously, how hurtful could have been giving Mills, Pau and Green the first 4 minutes of the 4th quarter? Would those 4 minutes have been the difference between playing or not playing tomorrow? Of course not, but it could have been the difference between a win and a loss tonight.

That's fair. But it just goes to what I mentioned re: Pop. It really didn't seem like anyone was sucking wind out there. Murray played 39 mins, Forbes/BP3 33 a piece, but they seemed to be moving fine out there. No one else cracked 30. I know some of these guys aren't used to playing a lot of minutes, but they seemed OK physically for the challenge. Another thing is OKC was playing some unknowns. You bring back in Patty/Pau, they know how to defend those guys, and they know the scouting report. Westbrook was all over Patty when he was in there. It's a bit different with some of these other guys


And about me not being a positive guy, just let me show you some of the threads I have started over the years:

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=270900
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254462
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=254667
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=201576
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=199361

Maybe you're just not a positive guy when it comes to Pop then (?)

[bklynspursfan]

Exhaustion compromises decision making as well as nit having sufficient veteran players to help out. It's basic common sense. Not even the tank team's put team a out there without a veteran or 2.

I know the trolls smell blood but the run started with Kyle in the game. If he doesn't go out or Joff doesn't foul out that's another couple of legs. It can't be helped they were out of the game for different reasons but clearly a 5 man rotation is crazy.

Murray made mistakes of judgement which maybe with a little veteran help don't happen. It's all speculation but I don't think the guys were set up to succeed. Rather I was wishing that game was over quickly with no more injuries bc guys played too many minutes compared to what they are used to. Frankly I was wishing no one else got hurt the entire 4th Q.

I think it was just an experience for them honestly. I think our guys had some great shots and just couldn't knock em down. They put themselves in position to win. The TO's sucked, but they generated good enough shots to pull it off. Letting the older guys come in and either win it or lose it doesn't help their development IMO. (Feels like we've switched roles here btw)

[bklynspursfan]

That was him. That’s why Bill said “we heard him scream” it sounded like:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIaFtAKnqBU

Dam, messed up but that's pretty much what I heard too. He probably thought it was worse than what it was, aside from the pain