Grassley's Oversight Investigation into the political corruption of the FBI and DOJ

[Pavlov]

959151540702359552Trump will probably end up firing him and you'll applaud because you can't do anything else.

[boutons_deux]

This is Trash's long Sat Nite Massacre

Yates

Comey

McCabe

Rosenstein

Mueller

And the entire Repug paryty is colluding, supporting the Constitutional crisis.

Wray will be gone, too, if he makes a stink

Who will be Trash's Robert Bjork?

[boutons_deux]

And remember that SCOTUS has ruled, 20 years ago, that Trash has no immunity for crimes committed before being elected Pres

Trash before a Federal grand jury! on CSPAN! :lol

[Chris]

bot-ons may need a hard reset :lol

[Chucho]

bot-ons may need a hard reset :lol


I don't care how it shakes out, but kinda hoping to see it be something really bad for the Demos to see the meltdown on that retard and RG. Like I said, the day this mess is over is going to be EPIC but it won't be as entertaining if the Left "wins" since the Righties here have been getting bukaked here for the longest time and it's never a full meltdown so much as "eat shit and like it".

[TSA]

Mueller has nothing to do with this.

Why are you guys trying to bash Trump's guy Wray?

You look at everything through such an emotional lens. I was in no way bashing Wray.

[koriwhat]

One big Dem reason is that Nunes has blocked any Dem retort, since he knows his memo is weak, lying bullshit

what are you afraid of? hahahaha

[TSA]

Trump will probably end up firing him and you'll applaud because you can't do anything else.

This will go as well as your prediction that I'd call for Rosenstein to be fired.

[koriwhat]

I don't care how it shakes out, but kinda hoping to see it be something really bad for the Demos to see the meltdown on that retard and RG. Like I said, the day this mess is over is going to be EPIC but it won't be as entertaining if the Left "wins" since the Righties here have been getting bukaked here for the longest time and it's never a full meltdown so much as "eat shit and like it".

as long as it ends with HRC and co. hung from the highest bridge on national tv I'll be good.

[TSA]

I don't care how it shakes out, but kinda hoping to see it be something really bad for the Demos to see the meltdown on that retard and RG. Like I said, the day this mess is over is going to be EPIC but it won't be as entertaining if the Left "wins" since the Righties here have been getting bukaked here for the longest time and it's never a full meltdown so much as "eat shit and like it".

RG will probably never show his face on this board again, and the rest of them have no shame so they'll try and play it off like they knew muh Russia was a hoax from the start.

[TSA]

New FBI messages reveal agents sought way to evade federal record requirements

There’s an important but little-noticed subtext in the revelations about alleged FBI misconduct in the investigations into Hillary Clinton’s email practices and Donald Trump’s Russia associations.

It’s the light they shine on what has come to be routine obstruction of public records laws by federal officials.

The records that federal agencies generate while in our employ aren’t owned by faceless bureaucrats or political officials who can choose to withhold or disclose at their discretion and convenience. The records are owned by us: the public.


That includes text messages.

In the past two decades as communications via email, smart phones and social media have grown routine, there’s evidence that federal officials have consciously devised ways to thwart public records laws and keep their communications — our records — secret. Federal officials have used private email accounts, private servers and aliases (not their own name) for public business. They have deleted or lost messages that are supposed to be saved.

And they have learned to use text messaging.

In a new exchange released by the Senate Homeland Security committee today, FBI officials Lisa Page and Peter Strzok seem to discuss this very issue in private texts.

Page: Have a meeting with turgal about getting iphone in a day or so

Strzok: Oh hot damn. . . We get around our security/monitoring issues?

Page: No, he’s proposing that we just stop following them. Apparently the requirement to capture texts came from [Office of Management and Budget], but we’re the only org (I’m told) who is following that rule. His point is, if no one else is doing it why should we. . . I’m told – thought I have seen – that there is an IG report that says everyone is failing. But one has changed anything, so why not just join in the failure.

It’s a shockingly cavalier attitude from an attorney and high level FBI official.

There are more text messages between Strzok and Page from a critical time period, as we now know, that the FBI claimed had been lost in a technical glitch. After that became public, the Inspector General said he was able to recover them. (Interesting that the FBI couldn’t.)

Where are all those text messages now? Instead of providing them directly to Congress, the Inspector General is giving the recovered text messages to the Department of Justice which then can give them to Congress (after any bad actors theoretically implicated in the texts have time to mount a fulsome defense).

This is just one artery of a huge problem that also includes federal agencies routinely violating Freedom of Information Act law. They’ve twisted the law on its head, using it to obstruct and delay the release of obviously public information. They filter legitimate public records through political reviews before releasing them in a process that isn’t, in my view, allowed under Freedom of Information law.

http://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/371853-new-fbi-messages-reveal-agents-searching-for-way-to-evade-record#.WnNnd6EB43c.twitter


Will be interesting to see if the MSM reports on these text messages as heavily as they reported on Strzok's first draft of the Hillary letter

[boutons_deux]

New FBI messages reveal agents sought way to evade federal record requirements


Dubya'S WH DELETED 2M EMAILS, AND YOUR OUTRAGE?

[TSA]

Ron Johnson wants communications from 16 new DOJ and FBI employees, including James Comey and Andrew McCabe

Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson has requested the Department of Justice turn over communications from 16 FBI and DOJ officials, including former Director James Comey and former Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

In a letter to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein sent Wednesday, the Wisconsin Republican requested “all documents and communications” — which includes emails, memos, notes, texts, iPhone instant messages, and voicemails — from 16 employees between January 1, 2015, to the present.

The request is part of the committee's broader probe into how the FBI handled its investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server.

Johnson requested the aforementioned communications from Peter Strzok and Lisa Page — the FBI agents who at one point exchanged anti-Trump sentiments before being assigned to special counsel Robert Mueller’s probe — as well as Comey and McCabe.

He also names outgoing FBI chief of staff James Rybicki, acting FBI Deputy Director David Bowdich and John Giacalone, the lead FBI agent on the probe into Clinton's emails.

Johnson also asked for the text messages between Strzok and Page that were previously recovered after being considered missing.

The FBI had announced earlier this month that roughly 50,000 texts from Strzok and Page sent between Dec. 14, 2016, and May 17, 2017, were missing because of a technical issue on employee-issued phones.

Last week, Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz told Johnson the messages had been retrieved.

“According to material produced to the Committee, Ms. Page and Mr. Strzok make references to communicating with other FBI employees via text message, phone calls, and email,” Johnson wrote.

Johnson also asked Rosenstein to say when the Justice Department became aware of the failure of the FBI to retain the previously missing Strzok-Page texts, and if the FBI has had glitch issues with other employee-issued devices.

The deadline for the request is February 14, Johnson said.

Johnson has repeatedly expressed concern that the Strzok and Page text messages show the FBI has political bias against President Trump.

http://wexmain.newsok.com/ron-johnson-wants-communications-from-16-new-doj-and-fbi-employees-including-james-comey-and-andrew-mccabe/article/2647825?no_cache=1&no_edit=1&show_all=1

959125277849858048

[TSA]

959132462436646912

[TSA]

Dubya'S WH DELETED 2M EMAILS, AND YOUR OUTRAGE?

Like with a cloth?

[Chucho]

Dubya'S WH DELETED 2M EMAILS, AND YOUR OUTRAGE?

LOL, stages of denial setting in for Booty.

[Pavlov]

You look at everything through such an emotional lens. I was in no way bashing Wray.Wray is making the objections.

You can't accuse anyone of being emotional.

[Pavlov]

959132462436646912Narrative.

The concerns are Wray's.

[koriwhat]

Wray is making the objections.

You can't accuse anyone of being emotional.

you can't accuse anyone tsa but pav can tell everyone that they're raging. lmao what a schmuck this dude pav/chump is.

[TSA]

Wray is making the objections.

You can't accuse anyone of being emotional.

How was I bashing Wray?

[Pavlov]

How was I bashing Wray?Your twitter narrative.

You don't even know what you're saying anymore.

Do you accept Wray's criticism of muh memo?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

958757841116057600

Swamp creatures in full panic

[TSA]

Your twitter narrative.

You don't even know what you're saying anymore.

Do you accept Wray's criticism of muh memo?

Yes or no.

Yes Wray is free to criticize the memo.

Again, how is posting this bashing Wray?

959124806959554561

Be specific.

[TSA]

959163597719986176

[koriwhat]

959163597719986176

:tu

hopefully JA gets his freedom soon enough.

[Pavlov]

Yes Wray is free to criticize the memo.

Again, how is posting this bashing Wray?

959124806959554561

Be specific.That's not the only tweet you posted.

You lie more every day, TSA.

Do you believe your own lies?

[Pavlov]

959163597719986176So Trump's men in the DOJ and FBI unknowingly played into Trump's hands.

Any word from fake Hannity?

[Pavlov]

And you guys do realize Assange is shitting on people for swallowing the narrative, don't you?

He's shitting on you.

[TSA]

That's not the only tweet you posted.

You lie more every day, TSA.

Do you believe your own lies?

959152378359504896

Here is the other tweet you quoted.

How is posting this bashing Wray? Be specific.

[Chris]

958757841116057600

Swamp creatures in full panic

https://images.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse3.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP. fiaTwEaz98JyseB6KH8nIwHaD4%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

[TSA]

Page: Have a meeting with turgal about getting iphone in a day or so

Strzok: Oh hot damn. . . We get around our security/monitoring issues?

Page: No, he’s proposing that we just stop following them. Apparently the requirement to capture texts came from [Office of Management and Budget], but we’re the only org (I’m told) who is following that rule. His point is, if no one else is doing it why should we. . . I’m told – thought I have seen – that there is an IG report that says everyone is failing. But one has changed anything, so why not just join in the failure.

You were giddy when you found out Strzok drafted the Clinton letter and now you are just ignoring these texts. Why?

[Chris]

959155124626165760

[TSA]

959155124626165760
Chris
6I2u9925L_0

:rollin

[Chris]

PANIC MODE! :lol


959107209895514112

[Chris]

Word is Donna Brazile will be implicated by the memo.



https://pics.me.me/if-that-fuckin-bastardwins-were-all-going-to-hang-from-6068587.png

[Chris]

TRUMP




Donald Trump Has Read Controversial FBI Intelligence Memo; Plans to Release on Friday



A White House official confirmed to reporters that President Donald Trump has read the House Intelligence Committee FISA memo after the committee voted to release it to the public and plans to release it on Friday.
The official confirmed that White House officials examined the memo to check for classified information, but that the president was comfortable with the release as long as Congress approved it.

“The president is ok with it,” an official told reporters after they boarded Air Force One with the president after his speech in West Virginia. “I doubt there will be any redactions. It’s in Congress’ hands after that.”

A second official confirmed to Breitbart News that the document would likely be released on Friday.

In response, House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi and Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer demanded Speaker Paul Ryan remove Rep. Devin Nunes as chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, accusing him of “dangerous partisanship.”

Other Democrats protested that Nunes altered the memo before sending it to the White House. But staffers for Nunes dismissed Democrat concerns, noting that they were merely grammatical fixes and two edits requested by the FBI and even Democrats on the committee.

The F.B.I. has protested the publication of the memo, a vote that was approved by the House Intelligence Committee, however efforts to get the president to block it’s release appear to have failed for now.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/02/01/donald-trump-read-controversial-fbi-intelligence-memo-plans-release-friday/

#WhentheSchiffHitstheFan #PelosiPanic

[koriwhat]

Word is Donna Brazile will be implicated by the memo.



https://pics.me.me/if-that-fuckin-bastardwins-were-all-going-to-hang-from-6068587.png

hopefully it comes true. i want a front row seat to her hanging. fuck that **** HRC!

[koriwhat]

959155124626165760

right?! if that old bitch pelosi can understand it and she still thinks bush is president then i think we can handle it unredacted! fucking bag of bones dipshit dementia pelosi.

[Chris]

959203822055886848

Would be epic :lol

[Chris]

Duncan going HAM

959132462436646912

[Chris]

959147114784632833

[Pavlov]

959152378359504896

Here is the other tweet you quoted.

How is posting this bashing Wray? Be specific.You forgot muh Nunes.

Jesus.

[Pavlov]

959147114784632833"Adoptions"

[Pavlov]

Word is Donna Brazile will be implicated by the memo.



https://pics.me.me/if-that-fuckin-bastardwins-were-all-going-to-hang-from-6068587.pngFake meme.

[Chris]

959212561613905921

[Chris]

959214221199372288

[Chris]

TRUMP




Donald Trump Has Read Controversial FBI Intelligence Memo; Plans to Release on Friday




#WhentheSchiffHitstheFan #PelosiPanic

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU-hB50XUAEOess.jpg:large

[Chris]

959191894122287105

[DarrinS]

958757841116057600

Swamp creatures in full panic


It’s a counterintelligence investigation

[TSA]

New FBI messages reveal agents sought way to evade federal record requirements

There’s an important but little-noticed subtext in the revelations about alleged FBI misconduct in the investigations into Hillary Clinton’s email practices and Donald Trump’s Russia associations.

It’s the light they shine on what has come to be routine obstruction of public records laws by federal officials.

The records that federal agencies generate while in our employ aren’t owned by faceless bureaucrats or political officials who can choose to withhold or disclose at their discretion and convenience. The records are owned by us: the public.


That includes text messages.

In the past two decades as communications via email, smart phones and social media have grown routine, there’s evidence that federal officials have consciously devised ways to thwart public records laws and keep their communications — our records — secret. Federal officials have used private email accounts, private servers and aliases (not their own name) for public business. They have deleted or lost messages that are supposed to be saved.

And they have learned to use text messaging.

In a new exchange released by the Senate Homeland Security committee today, FBI officials Lisa Page and Peter Strzok seem to discuss this very issue in private texts.

Page: Have a meeting with turgal about getting iphone in a day or so

Strzok: Oh hot damn. . . We get around our security/monitoring issues?

Page: No, he’s proposing that we just stop following them. Apparently the requirement to capture texts came from [Office of Management and Budget], but we’re the only org (I’m told) who is following that rule. His point is, if no one else is doing it why should we. . . I’m told – thought I have seen – that there is an IG report that says everyone is failing. But one has changed anything, so why not just join in the failure.

It’s a shockingly cavalier attitude from an attorney and high level FBI official.

There are more text messages between Strzok and Page from a critical time period, as we now know, that the FBI claimed had been lost in a technical glitch. After that became public, the Inspector General said he was able to recover them. (Interesting that the FBI couldn’t.)

Where are all those text messages now? Instead of providing them directly to Congress, the Inspector General is giving the recovered text messages to the Department of Justice which then can give them to Congress (after any bad actors theoretically implicated in the texts have time to mount a fulsome defense).

This is just one artery of a huge problem that also includes federal agencies routinely violating Freedom of Information Act law. They’ve twisted the law on its head, using it to obstruct and delay the release of obviously public information. They filter legitimate public records through political reviews before releasing them in a process that isn’t, in my view, allowed under Freedom of Information law.

http://thehill.com/opinion/criminal-justice/371853-new-fbi-messages-reveal-agents-searching-for-way-to-evade-record#.WnNnd6EB43c.twitter


Will be interesting to see if the MSM reports on these text messages as heavily as they reported on Strzok's first draft of the Hillary letter

Pavlov why the sudden no comment on these texts after happily discussing the Strzok texts yesterday?

[koriwhat]

Pavlov why the sudden no comment on these texts after happily discussing the Strzok texts yesterday?

because pav is a tool and only wants to troll.

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DU9o9BqVoAAUKj9.jpg:large

[TSA]

You forgot muh Nunes.

Jesus.

Those were the two texts you quoted. You are really having trouble explaining how I am bashing Wray so why don’t you just give a specific example that supports your claim.

[Chris]

Word is Obama has already lawyered up :lol

[koriwhat]

Those were the two texts you quoted. You are really having trouble explaining how I am bashing Wray so why don’t you just give a specific example that supports your claim.

he can't because he's a fucking chump. lol

[Chris]

http://i66.tinypic.com/znmuyo.jpg

[Chris]

Panic mode - release the bots!


959227199114170374

[monosylab1k]

Word is Obama has already lawyered up :lol

:lmao

[koriwhat]

:lmao

how life since coming out? you were a tough G back in the day until you were exposed for catfishing this whole forum with a photo of some mexican sancho of yours.

[Reck]

I personally think the Obama Justice Department was politically corrupt going back at least to fast and furious.

I can also understand why blue team doesnt want to admit it.

:lol Rod Rosenstein and Christopher Wray being in the blue team.

[monosylab1k]

how life since coming out? you were a tough G back in the day until you were exposed for catfishing this whole forum with a photo of some mexican sancho of yours.

:lmao wrong mav krew member, and it’s good to know he’s still trolling you years later.

[DMX7]

:lmao

Even Trump's lawyers have lawyers. :lol

[TSA]

959286220969754630

[Reck]

959268772682129408

:lol Nunes with det self owned.

[TSA]

959268772682129408

:lol Nunes with det self owned.

You people are fucking clueless. All the amendments Nunes added to the 702 reauthorization specifically stopped the surveillance of American citizens. You are having a rough night, if the memo is released tomorrow it only gets worse for you. Log off, regroup, and get some sleep. You’ve got a long and brutal day of semen shielding ahead of you.

[Reck]

You people are fucking clueless. All the amendments Nunes added to the 702 reauthorization specifically stopped the surveillance of American citizens. You are having a rough night, if the memo is released tomorrow it only gets worse for you. Log off, regroup, and get some sleep. You’ve got a long and brutal day of semen shielding ahead of you.

He did? Funny because the only thing that happened was they voted to extend the 702 for an additional 6 years. Nothing was ammended. It was merely a re-authorization of the bill.

You're just a retard.

[TSA]

He did? Funny because the only thing that happened was they voted to extend the 702 for an additional 6 years. Nothing was ammended. It was merely a re-authorization of the bill.

You're just a retard.

You couldn’t shove your foot any farther in your mouth if you tried you stupid fuck :lmao

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/fisa_amendments_reauthorization_act_of_2017_bill_t ext.pdf

[TSA]

Memo Reading for Nonpartisans

Ignore the spin. When the document goes public, here’s what to look for.

The White House looks set to release the House Intelligence Committee memo on 2016 government surveillance abuses, which means the attacks on the document by Democrats, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the media are going to get wilder. To help navigate through the spin, here’s a handy guide for what to look for, and what to ignore:

• Rationale. Did the FBI have cause to open a full-blown counterintelligence probe into an active presidential campaign? That’s a breathtakingly consequential and unprecedented action and surely could not be justified without much more than an overheard drunken conversation or an unsourced dossier. What hard evidence did the FBI have?

• Tools and evidence. Government possesses few counterintelligence tools more powerful or frightening than the ability to spy on American citizens. If the FBI obtained permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to monitor Trump aide Carter Page based on information from the Christopher Steele dossier, that in itself is a monumental scandal. It means the FBI used a document commissioned by one presidential campaign as a justification to spy on another. Ignore any arguments that the dossier was not a “basis” for the warrant or only used “in part.” If the FBI had to use it in its application, it means it didn’t have enough other evidence to justify surveillance.

Look to see what else the FBI presented to the court as a justification for monitoring, and whether it was manufactured. Mr. Steele and his client, Fusion GPS, ginned up breathless news stories about the dossier’s unverified accusations in September 2016 in order to influence the election. The FBI sometimes presents news articles to the court, but primarily for corroboration of other facts. If the FBI used the conspiracy stories Mr. Steele was spinning as actual justification—evidence—to the court, that’s out of bounds.

• Omissions and misdirection. What else did the FBI tell the court? One would presume the bureau did its due diligence and knew Mr. Steele ultimately worked for the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. The FISA court puts considerable emphasis on the credibility of sources. Did the FBI inform the court of the Clinton connection? Or did it lean on the claim that the Fusion project was originally funded by Republicans? Such a claim might diminish the partisan stench. But it would also be a falsehood, since the dossier portion of the project was purely funded by Clinton allies. And if the FBI didn’t bother to ask who hired Mr. Steele or Fusion, that’s a scandal all its own.

Also, look to see whether the FBI informed the court that Mr. Steele was blabbing to the press. When he first approached the bureau in July, he hadn’t yet briefed the media. But by September he and Fusion were publicly spinning the dossier for their Democratic client, and the FBI would have known who was generating the stories. Did the FBI continue to attest something that clearly was no longer true?

• Duration of surveillance. The FBI may argue it had good cause to look into Mr. Page. But if months of wiretaps didn’t turn up anything (and surely we’d have heard if they did), the FBI also had a duty to cease such a liberty-busting intrusion. Ask how long this probe went on and whether it was justified, or if the FBI was simply giving itself an open-ended license to spy on a campaign.

Expect Trump critics to renew their effort to turn Mr. Page into a Manchurian aide, seizing on his every action or word while ignoring the small role he played in the campaign, not to mention his obvious oddness. This will be designed to make people forget that for all the focus on Mr. Page, he was and remains a private citizen, who apparently was subject to months of government monitoring based on what may prove nothing more than the gossip of a rival campaign.

• Team Obama. Somewhat lost in this narrative is what role if any the broader Obama administration might have played with regard to the dossier. What actions were taken by former CIA Director John Brennan, or former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper ? Also don’t forget Bruce Ohr, the Justice Department official whose wife worked for Fusion GPS, and who himself met with Fusion cofounder Glenn Simpson. Or the Justice Department officials who approved court filings. If there was surveillance abuse, accountability shouldn’t stop with the FBI.

Mostly, ignore what is certain to be a nonstop shriek that this memo is out of context, that it omits facts or cherry-picks data or makes unfair allegations. You know, sort of like what Democrats and the media did this past year in their “Russia investigation.” The difference here is that the memo only needs to provide a few facts for the country to understand if there was FISA abuse.

The rest is noise.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/memo-reading-for-nonpartisans-1517530297?__twitter_impression=true

[TSA]

He did? Funny because the only thing that happened was they voted to extend the 702 for an additional 6 years. Nothing was ammended. It was merely a re-authorization of the bill.

You're just a retard.

:lmao

[Chris]

Reck :lol

[Pavlov]

959214221199372288Trump's Deputy AG that Trump appointed is going to have a terrible day?

lol

[Pavlov]

Memo Reading for Nonpartisans

Ignore the spin. When the document goes public, here’s what to look for.

The White House looks set to release the House Intelligence Committee memo on 2016 government surveillance abuses, which means the attacks on the document by Democrats, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the media are going to get wilder. To help navigate through the spin, here’s a handy guide for what to look for, and what to ignore:

• Rationale. Did the FBI have cause to open a full-blown counterintelligence probe into an active presidential campaign? That’s a breathtakingly consequential and unprecedented action and surely could not be justified without much more than an overheard drunken conversation or an unsourced dossier. What hard evidence did the FBI have?

• Tools and evidence. Government possesses few counterintelligence tools more powerful or frightening than the ability to spy on American citizens. If the FBI obtained permission from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court to monitor Trump aide Carter Page based on information from the Christopher Steele dossier, that in itself is a monumental scandal. It means the FBI used a document commissioned by one presidential campaign as a justification to spy on another. Ignore any arguments that the dossier was not a “basis” for the warrant or only used “in part.” If the FBI had to use it in its application, it means it didn’t have enough other evidence to justify surveillance.

Look to see what else the FBI presented to the court as a justification for monitoring, and whether it was manufactured. Mr. Steele and his client, Fusion GPS, ginned up breathless news stories about the dossier’s unverified accusations in September 2016 in order to influence the election. The FBI sometimes presents news articles to the court, but primarily for corroboration of other facts. If the FBI used the conspiracy stories Mr. Steele was spinning as actual justification—evidence—to the court, that’s out of bounds.

• Omissions and misdirection. What else did the FBI tell the court? One would presume the bureau did its due diligence and knew Mr. Steele ultimately worked for the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee. The FISA court puts considerable emphasis on the credibility of sources. Did the FBI inform the court of the Clinton connection? Or did it lean on the claim that the Fusion project was originally funded by Republicans? Such a claim might diminish the partisan stench. But it would also be a falsehood, since the dossier portion of the project was purely funded by Clinton allies. And if the FBI didn’t bother to ask who hired Mr. Steele or Fusion, that’s a scandal all its own.

Also, look to see whether the FBI informed the court that Mr. Steele was blabbing to the press. When he first approached the bureau in July, he hadn’t yet briefed the media. But by September he and Fusion were publicly spinning the dossier for their Democratic client, and the FBI would have known who was generating the stories. Did the FBI continue to attest something that clearly was no longer true?

• Duration of surveillance. The FBI may argue it had good cause to look into Mr. Page. But if months of wiretaps didn’t turn up anything (and surely we’d have heard if they did), the FBI also had a duty to cease such a liberty-busting intrusion. Ask how long this probe went on and whether it was justified, or if the FBI was simply giving itself an open-ended license to spy on a campaign.

Expect Trump critics to renew their effort to turn Mr. Page into a Manchurian aide, seizing on his every action or word while ignoring the small role he played in the campaign, not to mention his obvious oddness. This will be designed to make people forget that for all the focus on Mr. Page, he was and remains a private citizen, who apparently was subject to months of government monitoring based on what may prove nothing more than the gossip of a rival campaign.

• Team Obama. Somewhat lost in this narrative is what role if any the broader Obama administration might have played with regard to the dossier. What actions were taken by former CIA Director John Brennan, or former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper ? Also don’t forget Bruce Ohr, the Justice Department official whose wife worked for Fusion GPS, and who himself met with Fusion cofounder Glenn Simpson. Or the Justice Department officials who approved court filings. If there was surveillance abuse, accountability shouldn’t stop with the FBI.

Mostly, ignore what is certain to be a nonstop shriek that this memo is out of context, that it omits facts or cherry-picks data or makes unfair allegations. You know, sort of like what Democrats and the media did this past year in their “Russia investigation.” The difference here is that the memo only needs to provide a few facts for the country to understand if there was FISA abuse.

The rest is noise.

https://www.wsj.com/amp/articles/memo-reading-for-nonpartisans-1517530297?__twitter_impression=trueThe Journal has been spinning this from the beginning and is hugely partisan.

[Pavlov]

Those were the two texts you quoted. You are really having trouble explaining how I am bashing Wray so why don’t you just give a specific example that supports your claim.Sorry, you need to review all your tweet posts and see what you've been doing.

You won't do it.

[Reck]

You couldn’t shove your foot any farther in your mouth if you tried you stupid fuck :lmao

https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/fisa_amendments_reauthorization_act_of_2017_bill_t ext.pdf

Skip to 1:55 since I know you're a lazy faggot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0twnM_cfVI

Or since I know you like to read quotes:

Devin Nunes: "As threats to Americans home and abroad increase by the day, now is not the timing to be weakening our national security"

Why are you going full retard posting a link to the bill that they passed which had no real ammendments added other than continuing the program as it was?


All the amendments Nunes added to the 702 reauthorization specifically stopped the surveillance of American citizens.

Devin Nunes: "As threats to Americans home and abroad increase by the day, now is not the timing to be weakening our national security"

Nunes stopped it alright. By not doing a thing to the bill and just passing it. :lmao

[Reck]

All the amendments Nunes added to the 702 reauthorization specifically stopped the surveillance of American citizens.

But wait...get a load of how much winning Nunes did.



But Chairman Devin Nunes threw a monkey wrench into the process, by initially pushing to include in the bill an unrelated a provision on so-called unmasking, the process that intelligence agencies use to reveal the names of U.S. persons who may be involved in crimes like spying.


Nunes was ultimately forced to strip the provision, which was far from the only hurdle the Section 702 reauthorization had to clear.


Yet the committee lost time throughout that period, in part because of Nunes’ insistence on including the unmasking provision. Republicans on the panel, sources said, went along, but mostly to humor the chairman.

They think of Nunes as an annoying child. Can you say cuck?


The House will introduce a legislation to preserve Section 702 on Tuesday—just 10 days before its deadline.


Can you tell me what the definition of preserve is, TSA?

We continue..


Nunes conceded his bill was dead. A stopgap measure in the Continuing Resolution punted Section 702 reconsideration to Jan. 19.


Now, absent the unmasking provision, the House Intelligence Committee may still get its way.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-nunes-messed-with-nsas-most-cherished-surveillance-power

Can you tell me what happened next, TSA? :lol

[TSA]

But wait...get a load of how much winning Nunes did.








They think of Nunes as an annoying child. Can you say cuck?




Can you tell me what the definition of preserve is, TSA?

We continue..





https://www.thedailybeast.com/devin-nunes-messed-with-nsas-most-cherished-surveillance-power

Can you tell me what happened next, TSA? :lol

They stripped 1 provision retard. You were provided the bill with all of the amendments Nunes added that went through when it was reauthorized. Take your huge L and move on you are embarrassing yourself.

[Pavlov]

They stripped 1 provision retard. You were provided the bill with all of the amendments Nunes added that went through when it was reauthorized. Take your huge L and move on you are embarrassing yourself.This is what you're leading with today?

lol

[TSA]

Skip to 1:55 since I know you're a lazy faggot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0twnM_cfVI

Or since I know you like to read quotes:

Devin Nunes: "As threats to Americans home and abroad increase by the day, now is not the timing to be weakening our national security"

Why are you going full retard posting a link to the bill that they passed which had no real ammendments added other than continuing the program as it was?



Devin Nunes: "As threats to Americans home and abroad increase by the day, now is not the timing to be weakening our national security"

Nunes stopped it alright. By not doing a thing to the bill and just passing it. :lmao

50 pages of amendments from Nunes is “not doing a thing” :rollin

Just stop already I am tired of laughing at your stupidity :rollin

[TSA]

This is what you're leading with today?

lol

?

[Chris]

5 Things You Need To Know About The Bombshell House Intelligence Memo

https://www.dailywire.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_full/public/uploads/2018/01/gettyimages-171063911.jpg?itok=768dvYlM



The memo is out, and it’s damning.

But it’s not the end of the Mueller investigation. In fact, the memo provides evidence that if President Trump were to fire Mueller, he’d be doing so on the false pretense that the entire investigation was predicated on a Hillary/DOJ/FBI/Obama nexus of coordination. The memo itself disproves that notion. With that said, the Democrats’ attempts to stifle the memo on national security grounds appear to have been totally and completely specious and ridiculous to boot.

So, here’s what you need to know about the memo, if its allegations are true.

1. The FBI and DOJ lied to the FISA Court about the grounds for a warrant on Trump foreign policy advisor Carter Page. According to the memo, the Fusion GPS dossier, compiled by Christopher Steele and paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee, was the central basis for the FISA warrant against Page. But that dossier was obviously biased — and that information was never turned over to the FISA court. The memo states, “The application does not mention Steele was ultimately working on behalf of — and paid by — the DNC and Clinton campaign, or that the FBI had separately authorized payment to Steele for the same information.” Furthermore, the FBI did not independently verify the claims of the Steele dossier in any serious way before seeking the FISA warrant. Those involved in the application include current deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein, which is likely why President Trump refused to rule out firing him today.

2. The media helped garner the warrant. The Carter Page FISA application apparently cited a Yahoo News article that was based on leaks from Steele to the news outlet. But that was not independent corroborating evidence of the Steele dossier — it was a repetition of the information Steele was disseminating. Steele was later suspended and terminated from the FBI for “an unauthorized disclosure to the media of his relationship with the FBI.”

3. Steele didn’t like Trump, but this information wasn’t included in the FISA application either. According to the memo, Steele told associate deputy attorney general Bruce Ohr that he was “desperate that Donald Trump not get elected and was passionate about him not being president.” Ohr didn’t report that in the FISA application, nor was information that Ohr’s wife worked for Fusion GPS on compiling opposition research on Trump revealed to the FISA Court.

4. Most importantly, the Carter Page application was NOT the launching point of the Trump-Russia collusion investigation. This is the most important point. If the Page FISA warrant had been the centerpiece and launching point of the investigation, Trump might have grounds to shut the whole thing down — Trump could claim, rightly, that the FBI, DOJ, and Hillary campaign worked together to trump up these charges, and then weaponized our intelligence and law enforcement community against him. But the memo itself states that “The Page FISA application also mentions information regarding fellow Trump campaign advisor George Papadopoulos. …The Papadopoulos information triggered the opening of an FBI counterintelligence investigation in late July 2016 by FBI agent Pete Strzok.” The memo points out that Strzok was also anti-Trump, but provides no evidence that the Papadopoulos investigation was biased — and that would be hard to prove, since Papadopoulos has now pled guilty to lying to the FBI. So the notion of the Mueller investigation as a sort of “fruit of the poisonous tree” springing from Page is undercut by the memo.

5. This memo doesn’t endanger national security. It’s nearly impossible to see how this memo endangers national security. Democrats can’t express a clear reason. The FBI can’t. The DOJ can’t. Which makes it look as though they were all covering their asses in an attempt to avoid culpability for an attempted political hit on Trump.

So, here’s where we are: the FBI and DOJ clearly cut corners in an effort to push forward the Trump-Russia investigation. They worked with Fusion GPS materials to do so, and didn’t tell the FISA court. And then they apparently fibbed to the American people about the supposed risks to the intelligence community if the public found out about their original lies by omission. But the Page warrant isn’t the entirety of the investigation, and attempts to take down the entire investigation based on this memo will be a wild oversell.

[Chris]

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[spurraider21]

:lmao thanks chris


In fact, the memo provides evidence that if President Trump were to fire Mueller, he’d be doing so on the false pretense that the entire investigation was predicated on a Hillary/DOJ/FBI/Obama nexus of coordination. The memo itself disproves that notion.

[clambake]

hey dale

[Chris]

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[spurraider21]

:lmao chris posts article that says


In fact, the memo provides evidence that if President Trump were to fire Mueller, he’d be doing so on the false pretense that the entire investigation was predicated on a Hillary/DOJ/FBI/Obama nexus of coordination. The memo itself disproves that notion.

:lmao then chris posts tweet that says


FBI confirms Steele Dossier as only evidence for FISA surveillance of Trump

:lmao you cant make this up

[Pavlov]

"apparently fibbed"?

:lmao

[Chris]

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[clambake]

chuck woolery lol

[spurraider21]

:lol woolery
:lol cucked by pat sajak

[Blake]

chuck woolery lol

[Chris]

:lmao thanks chris

lol editing your kneejerk posts

[Pavlov]

959515241087463425How is applying for a FISA warrant on a person who wasn't part of the Trump campaign two weeks before the election trying to fix that election?

[Chris]

Putting this here as well.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVC57w4XkAEi50T.jpg:large

[Pavlov]

lol cross posting memes

[Blake]

Putting this here as well.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DVC57w4XkAEi50T.jpg:large

Why do you run away from the follow up questions to your memes

[spurraider21]

fake memes

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

959484714615787521Captain Memesntweets springs into action!

[spurraider21]

that guy looks like a trey gowdy fan

[Pavlov]

Dude's throwing a hissy fit.

[koriwhat]

don't worry chris, most these people here are fucking retards that'll plug any hole made by the DNC and HRC because not doing so dismantles their whole being, everything holy they believed in, and their bs fucking russia narrative. fuck the dnc, hrc, and their minions.

[Reck]

They stripped 1 provision retard. You were provided the bill with all of the amendments Nunes added that went through when it was reauthorized. Take your huge L and move on you are embarrassing yourself.

None of my questions answered. :lol

TSA, what's up?

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:lmao

[Chris]

don't worry chris, most these people here are fucking retards that'll plug any hole made by the DNC and HRC because not doing so dismantles their whole being, everything holy they believed in, and their bs fucking russia narrative. fuck the dnc, hrc, and their minions.

They will never admit that could possibly be wrong about anything. Pride goeth before destruction.

[Pavlov]

They will never admit that could possibly be wrong about anything. Pride goeth before destruction.You were wrong about Netflix.

Did you admit to that?

[Chris]

You were wrong about Netflix.

Did you admit to that?

What was I wrong about? I claimed Always Sunny left Netflix and they did. I claimed Conservatives are boycotting Netflix and they are. Even Liberal minorities are jumping on the boycott.

[clambake]

manufactured memo to discredit our fine men and women. donna knows he's been ratted out. he knows what they are going to find.

[Pavlov]

What was I wrong about?Netflix.

[Chris]

Netflix.

Hah! you got nothin'

*Risitas

[Pavlov]

Hah! you got nothin'

*RisitasNope, you said Netflix was hurting due to all the lost subscriptions from muh boycott.

You were wrong.

[koriwhat]

Nope, you said Netflix was hurting due to all the lost subscriptions from muh boycott.

You were wrong.

wgaf pav? you take minute things and blow them up so you could try to have some sort of upperhand which you don't have. you're a power tripping egomaniac without moxie or swag.

[Pavlov]

wgaf pav?Chris does.

[Chris]

Chris does.

You brought it up.

[koriwhat]

Chris does.

"boohoo i'm more worried about whether or not chris was correct on the netflix boycott but don't give a fuck about actual issues like a coup outlined in a WH released memo." priorities.

[Pavlov]

You brought it up.You defended yourself.


"boohoo i'm more worried about whether or not chris was correct on the netflix boycott but don't give a fuck about actual issues like a coup outlined in a WH released memo." priorities.What issues from the memo would you like to discuss?

I've been discussing it for awhile now.

[koriwhat]

What issues from the memo would you like to discuss?

if you don't know how to read it's not my job to teach you.

[Pavlov]

if you don't know how to read it's not my job to teach you.You didn't say what issues from the memo you would like to discuss. I'm right here ready to discuss them with you.

What issues from the memo would you like to discuss?

[clambake]

if you don't know how to read it's not my job to teach you.

i don't think chump is really all that concerned about the issues.

chump just exposes stupid mother fuckers for being stupid.

he's very effective.

[Pavlov]

i don't think chump is really all that concerned about the issues.Well, I have always been interested in FISA and this memo was interesting for a minute, but it doesn't prove anything it alleges.

[clambake]

Well, I have always been interested in FISA and this memo was interesting for a minute, but it doesn't prove anything it alleges.

thats what I'm trying to tell all these stupid mother fuckers.

you can't fix stupid.

[koriwhat]

thats what I'm trying to tell all these stupid mother fuckers.

you can't fix stupid.

Russia, Russia, Russia... lmao can't fix stupid.

[TSA]

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[TSA]

Isikoff Stunned That His Carter Page Article Was Used To Justify Spy Warrant

Investigative journalist Michael Isikoff said Friday that he was surprised to find out that an article he wrote about Carter Page prior to the election was used to obtain a spy warrant against the former Trump campaign adviser.

The revelation, which was made in a memo released by the House Intelligence Committee on Friday, “stuns me,” Isikoff said in an episode of his podcast, “Skullduggery.”

The four-page memo alleges that the DOJ and FBI submitted inaccurate and incomplete information in a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant against Page. The spy warrant was granted on Oct. 21, 2016.

One “essential” part of the application was the uncorroborated Steele dossier, according to the memo. And an article that Isikoff wrote for Yahoo! News on Sept. 23, 2016 that was based directly on the dossier was “cited extensively” in the application.

Isikoff was shocked, he said, because his very article was based on information that came from Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the dossier. He said it was “a bit beyond me” that the FBI would use his article in the FISA application.

“Obviously the information that I got from Christopher Steele was information the FBI already had,” he said, noting that Steele began sharing information from his dossier in July 2016.

Isikoff acknowledged the potential problem with the DOJ and FBI citing his article to support the FISA against Page.

“It’s self-referential,” he said of the article and its reliance on the dossier.

“My story is about the FBI’s own investigation,” he continued.

“So it seems a little odd that they would be citing the Yahoo! News story about the matter that they are investigating themselves based on the same material that had been separately presented to the FBI before I was ever briefed by Christopher Steele.”

The Republican spy memo makes a similar argument.

“This article does not corroborate the Steele dossier because it is derived from the information leaked by Steele himself to Yahoo! News,” it reads.

It also asserts that the Page FISA application “incorrectly assesses” that Steele was not a source for Isikoff.

The memo also says that corroboration of the dossier was in its “infancy” at the time the FISA application was submitted. An FBI unit that tried to verify Steele’s research had determined that it was only “minimally corroborated” at the time the FISA warrant was granted.

Isikoff said on his podcast that he met Steele at a Washington, D.C. hotel in Sept. 2016. They were joined by his “old friend” Glenn Simpson, the founder of opposition research firm Fusion GPS.

Fusion hired Steele to investigate Donald Trump’s ties to Russia. The firm was working for the Clinton campaign and DNC, a fact which Isikoff was not aware of at the time of the meeting with Simpson and Steele.

He said on “Skullduggery” that he was aware that Simpson and Steele were working for Democrats, though he did not know it was the campaign and DNC.

Isikoff said that he wonders whether the Republican memo accurately characterized the FISA application or whether the FBI/DOJ were trying to “dress up” the document. The latter scenario would be “embarrassing” for U.S. officials, he said.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/isikoff-stunned-carter-page/

[TSA]

Inside The HPSCI Memo – A Key Distinction Being Conflated “Title I” -vs- “Title VII”

There is a key distinction being overlooked, perhaps conflated, by many who are reviewing the recently released HPSCI memo as it relates to the outlined targeting of U.S. individual Carter Page.

In the HPSCI outline it specifically notes the targeting of U.S. individual Carter Page was NOT a FISA Title VII search request. Title VII is FISA(702), the incidental collection of U.S. person information as it relates to National Security or Counterintelligence operations targeting foreign individuals.



The FISA ‘warrant’ request, against Carter Page, was made October 21st, 2016, under Title I of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act. Meaning the surveillance application was specifically stating, to the court, the U.S. individual was likely an actual agent of a foreign government, ie. “a spy.”


The DOJ (National Security Division) and the FBI (Counterintelligence Division) were not asking to review ancillary data collected on U.S. Person Carter Page as an outcome of surveillance on a foreign person, or foreign agent; that would be Title 7 (FISA-702).

In action outlined within the HPSCI memo, the DOJ and FBI were specifically telling the FISA court they had evidence that U.S. Person Carter Page was working as an agent of a foreign government. He was their target, and therefore requesting direct FISA Title 1 surveillance of that target on October 21st, 2016.

To give validity to the underlying position of the DOJ and FBI, the justice department used: the Clinton-Steele Dossier; media reports from -and of- the Clinton-Steele dossier; and opposition research provided by Clinton financed Fusion-GPS through Nellie Ohr, so they could monitor U.S. Person Carter Page.

In total, this sketchy assembly of political campaign research was used by the FBI as evidence to back-up their claim U.S. person Carter Page was working as a foreign agent; essentially saying: he was a spy. This application assembly was then certified on four different occasions by specific officials within the DOJ and FBI.

Without knowing the court had been provided political research, the FISA Court granted the FBI full surveillance authority for U.S. Person Carter Page. The distinction is rather stark.

The FBI were not targeting Page incidentally as an outcome of foreign intelligence collection; the FBI was targeting Carter Page directly. AND as such they carried full surveillance authority upon all of this activities, interactions, communications and contacts therein.

Because of this direct approach, any group, organization or entity who came in contact with U.S. Person Carter Page was then open for ancillary review and FBI investigation. Those who engaged in contact with Carter Page became subject to surveillance and searches in the same manner as if Page was an actual foreign agent.

Legal commentary thread on #Memo by Robert Barnes:

It is important to remember that FISA courts are not like other courts; there needs to be specific evidence of a particular national security threat to circumvent regular federal courts.

It is a HIGHER standard because its jurisdiction is LIMITED
FISA courts have LIMITED jurisdiction because the scope of the invasive tools of the NSA is far more INVASIVE than regular wiretaps, due to the SECRET nature of such courts, and from the risk of forum shopping with the limited number and deferential nature of FISA Judges.

That is why Congress imposed SPECIAL RESTRICTIONS on access to FISA courts and use of FISA evidence. To access FISA courts, only the highest ranking FBI officials must vet and approve, a high ranking DOJ official must authorize, and they must re-vet and re-approve every 90 days.

To spy on Americans through a FISA court, the FBI must show the target is an “agent of a foreign power,” not merely in contact with a foreign power. The law makes it difficult to show someone is an “agent of a foreign power” to make sure it is not misused to spy on Americans.

The law does not allow the FBI to call an American an “agent of a foreign power” unless they can show the person “knowingly engages in clandestine intelligence gathering activities for or on behalf of a foreign power” AND the nature of their activity is criminalized.

Claiming someone is an “agent of a foreign power” is a difficult standard to ever show, and should never happen to a domestic political opponent in a domestic political campaign. That is why the FBI had to cook the books — put a bogus informant on their team & lie to the courts.

Trump’s winning caused a problem for Comey & Comey’s firing caused a problem for Rosenstein. Both Comey & Rosenstein signed off on the bogus affidavits to the FISA court to continue spying on Trump team members post-election and post-inauguration. They needed Mueller to cover up.

Key fact about Mueller: he is very close friends with Comey, and was the mentor and close friend of Rosenstein. Mueller is also expert at covering up for lawless law enforcement: see his role with Whitey Bulger, BCCI, HSBC, Waco, Noriega, IRS/Tea Party & Fast & Furious.

FISA law protects Americans from lawless spying by masking & deletion of intercepted data. If an American’s conversations are intercepted, his identity must remain hidden, and if no p/c of a crime, his conversations deleted. Hence, the importance of @Cernovich Susan Rice story.

FBI turned over their NSA spying capacity to a private lobbying company in order to promote a smear campaign against a domestic political opponent. Fearing being caught, they appointed a special counsel (Mueller) to cover for them by accusing the man (Trump) who might expose them (link)

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/02/inside-the-hpsci-memo-a-key-distinction-being-conflated-title-i-vs-title-vii/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[Pavlov]

TSA will call for Rosenstein's firing very soon.


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959824077115576321You are the most predictable and gullible person on the face of the earth.

[Pavlov]

Isikoff Stunned That His Carter Page Article Was Used To Justify Spy Warrant

Investigative journalist Michael Isikoff said Friday that he was surprised to find out that an article he wrote about Carter Page prior to the election was used to obtain a spy warrant against the former Trump campaign adviser.

The revelation, which was made in a memo released by the House Intelligence Committee on Friday, “stuns me,” Isikoff said in an episode of his podcast, “Skullduggery.”

The four-page memo alleges that the DOJ and FBI submitted inaccurate and incomplete information in a Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrant against Page. The spy warrant was granted on Oct. 21, 2016.

One “essential” part of the application was the uncorroborated Steele dossier, according to the memo. And an article that Isikoff wrote for Yahoo! News on Sept. 23, 2016 that was based directly on the dossier was “cited extensively” in the application.

Isikoff was shocked, he said, because his very article was based on information that came from Christopher Steele, the former British spy who wrote the dossier. He said it was “a bit beyond me” that the FBI would use his article in the FISA application.

“Obviously the information that I got from Christopher Steele was information the FBI already had,” he said, noting that Steele began sharing information from his dossier in July 2016.

Isikoff acknowledged the potential problem with the DOJ and FBI citing his article to support the FISA against Page.

“It’s self-referential,” he said of the article and its reliance on the dossier.

“My story is about the FBI’s own investigation,” he continued.

“So it seems a little odd that they would be citing the Yahoo! News story about the matter that they are investigating themselves based on the same material that had been separately presented to the FBI before I was ever briefed by Christopher Steele.”

The Republican spy memo makes a similar argument.

“This article does not corroborate the Steele dossier because it is derived from the information leaked by Steele himself to Yahoo! News,” it reads.

It also asserts that the Page FISA application “incorrectly assesses” that Steele was not a source for Isikoff.

The memo also says that corroboration of the dossier was in its “infancy” at the time the FISA application was submitted. An FBI unit that tried to verify Steele’s research had determined that it was only “minimally corroborated” at the time the FISA warrant was granted.

Isikoff said on his podcast that he met Steele at a Washington, D.C. hotel in Sept. 2016. They were joined by his “old friend” Glenn Simpson, the founder of opposition research firm Fusion GPS.

Fusion hired Steele to investigate Donald Trump’s ties to Russia. The firm was working for the Clinton campaign and DNC, a fact which Isikoff was not aware of at the time of the meeting with Simpson and Steele.

He said on “Skullduggery” that he was aware that Simpson and Steele were working for Democrats, though he did not know it was the campaign and DNC.

Isikoff said that he wonders whether the Republican memo accurately characterized the FISA application or whether the FBI/DOJ were trying to “dress up” the document. The latter scenario would be “embarrassing” for U.S. officials, he said.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/02/02/isikoff-stunned-carter-page/It was used in the application to show the information was already going public.

[TSA]

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[Pavlov]

959556537751691264Because Trump wants to get rid of anyone investigating him, his campaign or Russia.

Pretty simple.

It's the exact same thing you want, TSA.

[boutons_deux]

Wray installing Trash teamers

[TSA]

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[TSA]

You are the most predictable and gullible person on the face of the earth.

If Rosenstein used the power of his office to threaten members of Congress should he be fired yes or no?

[Pavlov]

959784107713679360So the guy who left the Trump campaign due to his Russian contacts was investigated for his Russian contacts.

:lol good thread

[Pavlov]

If Rosenstein used the power of his office to threaten members of Congress should he be fired yes or no?You are the most predictable and gullible person on the face of the earth.

Don't get pissy that I called this.

You're just that easy to manipulate. Another week, another conspiracy for you to pimp.

[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

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[Cuppycake Gumdrop]

You are the most predictable and gullible person on the face of the earth.

Don't get pissy that I called this.

You're just that easy to manipulate. Another week, another conspiracy for you to pimp.
:lol

It’s weird how the biggest sheep are the ones constantly bragging about being “redpilled”

[TSA]

You are the most predictable and gullible person on the face of the earth.

Don't get pissy that I called this.

You're just that easy to manipulate. Another week, another conspiracy for you to pimp.

Predictable dodge and deflect. Try again.

If Rosenstein used the power of his office to threaten members of Congress should he be fired yes or no?

[TSA]

959784107713679360So the guy who left the Trump campaign due to his Russian contacts was investigated for his Russian contacts.

:lol good thread

Interesting that’s the only thing in that thread you comment on.

[Pavlov]

Predictable dodge and deflect. Try again.

If Rosenstein used the power of his office to threaten members of Congress should he be fired yes or no?Sure. It just looks like a bullshit story on its face. Restaurant child sex dungeon level bullshit you like to spread.

What is the Trump appointee's motivation to do such a thing, TSA?

[Pavlov]

Interesting that’s the only thing in that thread you comment on.The rest was just reprinting the memo.

Which is a nothingburger.

[Spurtacular]

The rest was just reprinting the memo.

Which is a nothingburger.

The FBI abusing the law and spying for a presidential campaign is a nothing burger?

[TSA]

Sure. It just looks like a bullshit story on its face. Restaurant child sex dungeon level bullshit you like to spread.

What is the Trump appointee's motivation to do such a thing, TSA?

I appreciate you answering the question, try doing that the first time around next time.

To your question it’s not known if Rosenstein actually did and if he did I can’t speak for Rosenstein.

[Spurtacular]

I appreciate you answering the question, try doing that the first time around next time.

Why do that when you can blather for six pages and maybe not answer it at all?

[Pavlov]

The FBI spying for a presidential campaign is a nothing burger?


I appreciate you answering the question, try doing that the first time around next time.You dodged about twenty questions from me in the last week. You're a coward.


To your question it’s not known if Rosenstein actually did and if he did I can’t speak for Rosenstein.Nope, you don't get off that easy. No dodging.

What is the Trump appointee's possible motivation to do such a thing, TSA?

Answer the question.

[TSA]

The FBI abusing the law and spying for a presidential campaign is a nothing burger?

Apparently the FBI testifying it wouldn’t have received the FISA warrant without the DNC paid for dossier is also a nothingburger. The amount of mental gymnastics used to get to that conclusion is mind boggling.

[Pavlov]

Apparentlylol

Why are you completely trusting an unofficial memo from a member of Trump's transition team, TSA?

[TSA]

You dodged about twenty questions from me in the last week, dumbass. You're a coward.

Nope, you don't get off that easy. No dodging.

What is the Trump appointee's possible motivation to do such a thing, TSA?

Answer the question.

If Rosenstein threatened Congress it was an attempt to cover his own ass for signing off on FISA. Being a Trump appointee has nothing to do with his actions.

[Pavlov]

If Rosenstein threatened Congress it was an attempt to cover his own ass for signing off on FISA. Being a Trump appointee has nothing to do with his actions.I appreciate you answering the question, try doing that the first time around next time.

How would that cover his ass, TSA? It doesn't remove his signature from the applications.

[TSA]

lol

Why are you completely trusting an unofficial memo from a member of Trump's transition team, TSA?

McCabe’s testimony is on record. I don’t believe Republican members of Congress would be doing interviews claiming this knowing McCabe’s testimony will be released.

[Pavlov]

McCabe’s testimony is on record. I don’t believe Republican members of Congress would be doing interviews claiming this knowing McCabe’s testimony will be released.Sure they would. It's not like they've never lied about anything before.

[TSA]

I appreciate you answering the question, try doing that the first time around next time.

How would that cover his ass, TSA? It doesn't remove his signature from the applications.

If Rosenstein threatened Congress to cover his own ass it didn’t work because the memo was released anyways. Rosenstein also went to Trump to ask him to block the handover of the source documents used to compile the memo. Rosenstein has been stonewalling Congress requests for a year and you have never once questioned his motives, why?

[Pavlov]

If Rosenstein threatened Congress to cover his own ass it didn’t work because the memo was released anyways. Rosenstein also went to Trump to ask him to block the handover of the source documents used to compile the memo. Rosenstein has been stonewalling Congress requests for a year and you have never once questioned his motives, why?Because everything Nunes does is bullshit.

Pretty simple.

lol unofficial transition team member memo

[TSA]

Sure they would. It's not like they've never lied about anything before.

The release of McCabe’s testimony will prove them to be truthful or liars. So far I’ve seen nothing coming from congressional Republicans concerning this that has been a lie. Meanwhile Adam Schiff is constantly exposed as a liar.

Why do you stay silent when Schiff’s lies are exposed?

[TSA]

Because everything Nunes does is bullshit.

Pretty simple.

lol unofficial transition team member memo

Were the source documents Dan Coats provided to Devin Nunes bullshit?

[Pavlov]

The release of McCabe’s testimony will prove them to be truthful or liars. So far I’ve seen nothing coming from congressional Republicans concerning this that has been a lie.Of course you haven't


Meanwhile Adam Schiff is constantly exposed as a liar.

Why do you stay silent when Schiff’s lies are exposed?I tend to not believe you or Chris WaIIace. You think Schiff's actions are the big story. They are not.

Sorry.

I look forward to Trump's releasing the Democratic memo after it has been reviewed.

[Pavlov]

Were the source documents Dan Coats provided to Devin Nunes bullshit?I don't know.

Can I see those documents? I'll make the call about the documents and Nunes' use of them after I see them. The bullshit is probably in the latter.

[TSA]

Of course you haven't

I tend to not believe you or Chris WaIIace. You think Schiff's actions are the big story. They are not.

Sorry.

I look forward to Trump's releasing the Democratic memo after it has been reviewed.

Why do you stay silent when Schiff’s lies are exposed?

[Pavlov]

Why do you stay silent when Schiff’s lies are exposed?I think you make a huge deal out of nothingburgers all the time.

I tend to not believe you or Chris WaIIace. You hyperventilate over some pretty small things. If you want me to have a reaction to them, let me know what you want it to be so I can make sure to consider it.

Now since you your narrative is Rosenstein is covering his ass -- why do you not entertain that narrative for a member of Trump's transition team rife with Russian contacts about which they repeatedly lied?

[TSA]

I think you make a huge deal out of nothingburgers all the time.

I tend to not believe you or Chris WaIIace. You hyperventilate over some pretty small things. If you want me to have a reaction to them, let me know what you want it to be so I can make sure to consider it.

Now since you your narrative is Rosenstein is covering his ass -- why do you not entertain that narrative for a member of Trump's transition team rife with Russian contacts about which they repeatedly lied?

Not only did you dodge the question again you attempted to insert a false narrative. I never said Rosenstein was covering his ass, that was a hypothetical we were discussing.

Why do you stay silent when Schiff’s lies are exposed?

[Pavlov]

Not only did you dodge the question again you attempted to insert a false narrative. I never said Rosenstein was covering his ass, that was a hypothetical we were discussing.

Why do you stay silent when Schiff’s lies are exposed?I told you exactly why. I didn't think his actions were terribly noteworthy. Let me know what you expect everyone to feel and post in advance.

Since your hypothetical narrative is Rosenstein is covering his ass -- why do you not entertain that hypothetical narrative for a member of Trump's transition team rife with Russian contacts about which they repeatedly lied?

[TSA]

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no comment

[Pavlov]

959850592377167872Right. I didn't comment for the reason I told you three times. All the stuff you and this guy are whining about Schiff's saying could be possible consequences of following up on the memo, which you say Nunes is going to do.

The rebuttal memo is the important thing at this point.

[TSA]

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[Pavlov]

960540452356284416lol have the appearance

[TSA]

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[TSA]

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[Pavlov]

960594388337528833So they wrote another letter?

Riveting.

[Pavlov]

960644391504351234The fact you won't acknowledge the part of the dossier that was dead accurate shows you're afraid of it.

[Chris]

960644391504351234

https://media1.tenor.com/images/a6c0d89f503a5d4796c890a770311093/tenor.gif?itemid=6233544

[Pavlov]

Chris didn't read it.

[TSA]

The fact you won't acknowledge the part of the dossier that was dead accurate shows you're afraid of it.

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate? According to McCabe's testimony the only thing they were able to verify was that Page made a trip to Moscow.

[Pavlov]

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?:lol

You really don't follow anything but pro-Trump blogs, do you?

I'm going to venture a guess you never read the Carter Page passages in the dossier.

You certainly didn't read anyone's posts here from the weekend.

[TSA]

:lol

You really don't follow anything but pro-Trump blogs, do you?

I'm going to venture a guess you never read the Carter Page passages in the dossier.

You certainly didn't read anyone's posts here from the weekend.

Why do you insist on this type of bullshit instead of just answering the question the first time?

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?

[Pavlov]

Why do you insist on this type of bullshit instead of just answering the question the first time?

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?It's in the Carter Page part you didn't read.

Have you read any of the dossier at all, TSA?

It's has about as much text as a sundance blog.

[TSA]

It's in the Carter Page part you didn't read.

Have you read any of the dossier at all, TSA?

It's has about as much text as a sundance blog.

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?

[Pavlov]

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?So you didn't read it.

lol

This is good information to have. Shows just how unimportant actual documents are to you in comparison with blogs written about those documents.

Strangely, none of your echo chamber blogs and tweets said anything about it.

Thanks, TSA!

[Splits]

lmao Sara Carter AGAIN

[TSA]

So you didn't read it.

lol

This is good information to have. Shows just how unimportant actual documents are to you in comparison with blogs written about those documents.

Strangely, none of your echo chamber blogs and tweets said anything about it.

Thanks, TSA!Dodge #3

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?

[koriwhat]

Dodge #3

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?

don't worry about pav. he doesn't even know what an algorithm is.

[Pavlov]

Dodge #3

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?Yeah, I already posted all about it. On this very forum.

You never even read any of the dossier, so I can't consider you to be serious about any of this.

Continue your bot duties. Sara n sundance appreciate the links.

[koriwhat]

Yeah, I already posted all about it. On this very forum.

You never even read any of the dossier, so I can't consider you to be serious about any of this.

Continue your bot duties. Sara n sundance appreciate the links.

what a crock of shit.

[Chris]

Trump Attorneys Approve Second Special Counsel To Probe FBI and DOJ


The war between the White House and the FBI/DOJ complex may be turning nuclear.

While speaking to reported aboard Air Force 1, Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah said that President Trump's attorneys have already approved the idea of appointing a second special counsel to investigate the FBI and Justice Department's actions during the 2016 presidential campaign, according to White House pool reports.

https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/deputy%20press%20secretary.jpg?itok=l7Zyr8rX
Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah. Photo: Chip Somodevilla

The excerpt from the pool in question:

*FISA warrant should it be released? and what about a second special counsel?*

**

Presidents attorneys have addressed this and said yes to a second special counsel.

FISA: That document along with any other that the House Intelligence Committee chooses to vote out of its committee through its process and all the House procedures, we would entertain like anything else.

As Axios adds, Shah also said that the White House will approach further memos, including the one created by Democrats, in the same way they handled the memo authored by Devin Nunes:

"Which is to allow for a legal review, national security review led by the White House Counsel’s Office, and then within five days the president will make a decision about declassifying it," said Shah.

And another highlight from the gaggle summarized by Axios:

Trump's tweet calling Rep. Adam Schiff a leaker: "We don’t really see any reason why anybody else would leak his information other than partisan political stunts by Adam Schiff and other members of the minority."

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-02-05/trump-attorneys-approve-second-special-counsel-probe-fbi-and-doj



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[Pavlov]

what a crock of shit.You didn't read the dossier or my posts about it as well.


Trump Attorneys Approve Second Special Counsel To Probe FBI and DOJIs it up to them?

[koriwhat]

You didn't read the dossier or my posts about it as well.

Is it up to them?

so you always come here and claim this and that but you're always wrong... why claim anything you fucking loser? i read most of that shit filled bs dossier when it came out. i read that 6pg memo too.... keep bullshitting your way through this forum.

[Pavlov]

so you always come here and claim this and that but you're always wrong... why claim anything you fucking loser? i read most of that shit filled bs dossier when it came out. i read that 6pg memo too.... keep bullshitting your way through this forum.It was a ~3.25-3.33 page memo.

I don't want to trigger anyone.

[koriwhat]

It was a ~3.25-3.33 page memo.

I don't want to trigger anyone.

idgaf how many pages you think it was... i had to download a 6pg pdf so it's 6pgs. gfy!

[Pavlov]

idgaf how many pages you think it was... i had to download a 6pg pdf so it's 6pgs. gfy!The first two pages are not the memo. We've been over this.

[koriwhat]

The first two pages are not the memo. We've been over this.

you didn't read the memo or my other posts... lol dipshit

[spurraider21]

idgaf how many pages you think it was... i had to download a 6pg pdf so it's 6pgs. gfy!
just because you measure your dick with a yardstick doesn't mean you're packing 3 feet tbh

[koriwhat]

just because you measure your dick with a yardstick doesn't mean you're packing 3 feet tbh

debating the peanuts crew... ugh

[Splits]

lmao tatboy drank himself to bed the other night to forget about his humiliation

[Pavlov]

you didn't read the memo or my other posts... lol dipshitSure I did.

All ~3.25-3.33 pages of it.

[koriwhat]

lmao tatboy drank himself to bed the other night to forget about his humiliation

tatboy doesn't drink.... here's to more of your #FAKENEWS!

[koriwhat]

Sure I did.

All ~3.25-3.33 pages of it.

pav didn't read the memo or my other posts.

[Pavlov]

pav didn't read the memo or my other posts.I can't say I read all your posts since you never really post about actual political issues.

But I definitely read the memo.

[TSA]

Yeah, I already posted all about it. On this very forum.

You never even read any of the dossier, so I can't consider you to be serious about any of this.

Continue your bot duties. Sara n sundance appreciate the links.Dodge #4

That’s great that you already posted all about it. I didn’t happen to see when or where you did that so stop acting like a little bitch and either answer the question or link to your quote.

What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?

[koriwhat]

I can't say I read all your posts since you never really post about actual political issues.

But I definitely read the memo.

yeah but if i say it ad nauseam like you do around here then it becomes truth, right?

[clambake]

dodge

[Pavlov]

Dodge #4

That’s great that you already posted all about it. I didn’t happen to see when or where you did that so stop acting like a little bitch and either answer the question or link to your quote. Nah, it can't be important to you since you never read the dossier at all.


What part of the Steele dossier are you claiming was dead accurate?What do you care? It's not a pro-Trump blog about the dossier so it's not going to mean anything to you.

[koriwhat]

Nah, it can't be important to you since you never read the dossier at all.

What do you care? It's not a pro-Trump blog about the dossier so it's not going to mean anything to you.

so you're allowed to ask others for proof, old post quotes, etc without doing the leg work but then you refuse to do the same when asked upon? fuck off pav.

[Pavlov]

so you're allowed to ask others for proof, old post quotes, etc without doing the leg work but then you refuse to do the same when asked upon? fuck off pav.It's not hidden in any way or form.

In fact, this isn't news -- it's been out for a year. It shows just how much noise Nunes and company make to block anything else out.

[koriwhat]

It's not hidden in any way or form.

In fact, this isn't news -- it's been out for a year. It shows just how much noise Nunes and company make to block anything else out.

and that may very well be pav but i'm not the one asking for proof... prove it to homeboy and stop dodging his question.

[Pavlov]

and that may very well be pav but i'm not the one asking for proof... prove it to homeboy and stop dodging his question.Oh, so you're his representative?

Sorry, man -- anyone as invested in discrediting the dossier as TSA should have at least read the thing.

And not just the pee pee stuff.

[TSA]

Nah, it can't be important to you since you never read the dossier at all.

What do you care? It's not a pro-Trump blog about the dossier so it's not going to mean anything to you.

Tired schtick is tired. I’m done with you.

[Pavlov]

Tired schtick is tired. I’m done with you.Of course you are.

You were done when you admitted you never read any of the dossier or knew about what it got right for an entire year.

Think about that the next time you go into bot mode.

[koriwhat]

Of course you are.

You were done when you admitted you never read any of the dossier or knew about what it got right for an entire year.

Think about that the next time you go into bot mode.

pav after every sick burn he thinks he's made?
https://media.giphy.com/media/XreQmk7ETCak0/giphy.gif

[Reck]

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Rough going for TSA.

[Chris]

Grassley good now

[Pavlov]

pav after every sick burn he thinks he's made?
https://media.giphy.com/media/XreQmk7ETCak0/giphy.gifJust a summary.

I thought he might have been up on the original documents but you all just take other people's word for it.

No wonder you guys believe Nunes.

[Chris]

Just a summary.

I thought he might have been up on the original documents but you all just take other people's word for it.

No wonder you guys believe Nunes.

Nunes will not stop until the DNC and Hillary are exposed. Gowdy says there are 5 agents implicated, two are referenced in the memo. More memos set to be released soon.

[Pavlov]

Nunes will not stop until the DNC and Hillary are exposed. Gowdy says there are 5 agents implicated, two are referenced in the memo. More memos set to be released soon.:lol

Just wait til the next memo! We didn't put everything in the first one because reasons! Hannity can say tick-tock again!


You're just the type of guy they're doing this for.

[TSA]

Grassley request for declassification review of criminal referral of Christopher Steele.

https://www.scribd.com/document/370821564/Grassley-Request-for-Declassification-Feb-2018

[Pavlov]

Grassley request for declassification review of criminal referral of Christopher Steele.

https://www.scribd.com/document/370821564/Grassley-Request-for-Declassification-Feb-2018And when he's not arrested because it's bullshit you'll call for more firings just like you did Rosenstein.

You're getting played again.

[Reck]

Grassley good now

Huh?

It's TSA's thread. Wherein he says Chuck Grassley was going to deliver on purging the FBI and DOJ. It's in the thread title, Chris. :lol

[pgardn]

And Mueller grinds on...

Stop that train. Go ahead. Do it.

[Pavlov]

It's all meant to thwart the Russia investigations.

Meanwhile the Republicans investigate everything but Russia.

[Chris]

It's all meant to thwart the Russia investigations.

https://i.imgur.com/0ZnWnAS.gif

[pgardn]

^TSA

Chris is watching on the couch.

[Pavlov]

^TSA

Chris is watching on the couch.
No flowchart needed.

Chris didn't even read the one he posted. Font was microscopic as posted.

[TSA]

Okay what the fuck is going on here with Carter Page. Either there was a second person in the same time frame with the same job title dealing with the same Russians as Carter page...or Carter Page was an FBI informant from 2012-2016 mentioned in the two article below.

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Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and John P. Carlin, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, announced that EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a “Zhenya,” pled guilty today to conspiring to act in the United States as an agent of the Russian Federation, without providing prior notice to the Attorney General.

During the course of the investigation, the FBI recorded Sporyshev and Podobnyy speaking inside the SVR’s offices in New York, known as the “Residentura.”

The FBI obtained the recordings after Sporyshev attempted to recruit an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-1”), who was posing as an analyst from a New York-based energy company. In response to requests from Sporyshev, UCE-1 provided Sporyshev with binders containing purported industry analysis written by UCE-1 and supporting documentation relating to UCE-1’s reports, as well as covertly placed recording devices. Sporyshev then took the binders to, among other places, the Residentura.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/evgeny-buryakov-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-connection-conspiracy-work

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According to prosecutors, in April 2012, Sporyshev met an undercover FBI employee posing as an analyst at a New York energy firm at an oil and gas industry conference.

Over the next two years, they met to discuss the industry and other economic and political issues, prosecutors said, with Sporyshev providing gifts and cash for information.

In 2013, the FBI employee began providing Sporyshev with the binders containing purported industry analysis he wrote, supporting documents, and “covertly placed recording devices,” prosecutors wrote.

As the undercover employee said his company would fire him if it learned he disclosed confidential information, Sporyshev would promptly return the binders after reviewing them, prosecutors said.

The recordings that resulted captured statements of Sporyshev, Podobnyy, and other Russian intelligence personnel from January to May 2013, prosecutors said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-espionage/fbi-penetrated-new-york-based-russian-spy-ring-using-hidden-recorders-idUSKCN0WB2NM


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"The court documents say that Mr. Page, who founded an investment company in New York called Global Energy Capital, provided documents about the energy business to one of the Russians, Victor Podobnyy, thinking he was a businessman who could help with brokering deals in Russia."

According to the court documents filed in 2015, the F.B.I. secretly recorded Mr. Podobnyy and another Russian operative named Igor Sporyshev discussing efforts to recruit Mr. Page, who was then working in New York as a consultant.

To record their conversations, the F.B.I. inserted a listening device into binders that were passed to the Russian intelligence operatives during an energy conference, according to a former United States intelligence official. The Russians then took the binders into a secure room where they thought they could evade American intelligence eavesdropping attempts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/politics/carter-page-trump-russia.html

[spurraider21]

krassenstein makes some interesting points... but it still begs the question of why they would need FISA warrants to surveil their own asset

[Chris]

It's all meant to thwart the Russia investigations.

https://i.imgur.com/0ZnWnAS.gif

[spurraider21]

you dont even know how to use that properly :lol

[Splits]

I wonder what Russian expert and Hannity lapdog Sara Carter has to say about this?

[TSA]

krassenstein makes some interesting points... but it still begs the question of why they would need FISA warrants to surveil their own asset

If Carter Page was an FBI informant the only reason I can think of needing a title I FISA warrant would be to be able to continue surveillance on the Trump team legally and make their previous illegal surveillance legal since title I warrant is retroactive.

[Chris]

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[spurraider21]

If Carter Page was an FBI informant the only reason I can think of needing a title I FISA warrant would be to be able to continue surveillance on the Trump team legally and make their previous illegal surveillance legal since title I warrant is retroactive.
it's not illegal to use an informant. wouldn't need to cover up "previous illegal surveillance" if that consisted of surveillance of their own asset

[spurraider21]

also funny that all the information used for this theory has been widely available for months :lol

[Spurminator]

also funny that all the information used for this theory has been widely available for months :lol

Yes but it's never been carefully workshopped into a mass talking point for Trump's propaganda arms.

[TSA]

it's not illegal to use an informant. wouldn't need to cover up "previous illegal surveillance" if that consisted of surveillance of their own asset

previous illegal surveillance wouldn't have been of Carter Page---these would have been the 702 about queries being run by contractors without oversight by the FBI. A title I FISA warrant of Carter Page would be used to cover those about queries that were run since the title I is retroactive.

[spurraider21]

Yes but it's never been carefully workshopped into a mass talking point for Trump's propaganda arms.
guy who put it together and "broke" it on twitter is a never trumper

[TSA]

also funny that all the information used for this theory has been widely available for months :lol

When and where had you ever seen reporting that Carter Page was an FBI informant and not the subject of said investigation?

[Chris]

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[TSA]

guy who put it together and "broke" it on twitter is a never trumper

Krassenstein didn't put any of it together or break anything on Twitter. Pav's boy Sundance put this together last night.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/05/in-march-2016-carter-page-was-an-fbi-employee-in-october-2016-fbi-told-fisa-court-hes-a-spy/

[spurraider21]

When and where had you ever seen reporting that Carter Page was an FBI informant and not the subject of said investigation?
the justice.gov press release talking about the efforts to recruit an fbi informant was up in march 2016

the reuters article you quoted (repeats much of the above) was also up in march 2016

the NYT article (fake news good now) talking about the efforts to recruit carter page was up in april 2017

i mean those are the puzzle pieces being used...

1) fbi informant was being recruited by russians
2) carter page was being recruited by same russians

3) carter page = that fbi informant

i mean thats the operating theory. its all right there

[Chris]

i mean thats the operating theory. its all right there

https://i.imgur.com/0ZnWnAS.gif

[TSA]

guy who put it together and "broke" it on twitter is a never trumper

the other resistance never Trumpers are not happy with his stolen theory :rollin

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[spurraider21]

the other resistance never Trumpers are not happy with his stolen theory :rollin

960910037836292096aight so i was wrong about the source of the revelation. i just googled the stuff you posted and his twitter popped up, and in there he acted like he was revealing it

doesnt change my point that all this information needed for the theory has been available as of april 2017. i just find it funny that it took 10 months for someone to put this together :lol

[spurraider21]

you would think of all people, chris would be the one to know how to use memes in their proper context

[Chris]

you would think of all people, chris would be the one to know how to use memes in their proper context

Don't get your knickers in a bundle, just having some fun. :lol

[Pavlov]

Okay what the fuck is going on here with Carter Page. Either there was a second person in the same time frame with the same job title dealing with the same Russians as Carter page...or Carter Page was an FBI informant from 2012-2016 mentioned in the two article below.

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Preet Bharara, the United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, and John P. Carlin, Assistant Attorney General for National Security, announced that EVGENY BURYAKOV, a/k/a “Zhenya,” pled guilty today to conspiring to act in the United States as an agent of the Russian Federation, without providing prior notice to the Attorney General.

During the course of the investigation, the FBI recorded Sporyshev and Podobnyy speaking inside the SVR’s offices in New York, known as the “Residentura.”

The FBI obtained the recordings after Sporyshev attempted to recruit an FBI undercover employee (“UCE-1”), who was posing as an analyst from a New York-based energy company. In response to requests from Sporyshev, UCE-1 provided Sporyshev with binders containing purported industry analysis written by UCE-1 and supporting documentation relating to UCE-1’s reports, as well as covertly placed recording devices. Sporyshev then took the binders to, among other places, the Residentura.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/evgeny-buryakov-pleads-guilty-manhattan-federal-court-connection-conspiracy-work

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According to prosecutors, in April 2012, Sporyshev met an undercover FBI employee posing as an analyst at a New York energy firm at an oil and gas industry conference.

Over the next two years, they met to discuss the industry and other economic and political issues, prosecutors said, with Sporyshev providing gifts and cash for information.

In 2013, the FBI employee began providing Sporyshev with the binders containing purported industry analysis he wrote, supporting documents, and “covertly placed recording devices,” prosecutors wrote.

As the undercover employee said his company would fire him if it learned he disclosed confidential information, Sporyshev would promptly return the binders after reviewing them, prosecutors said.

The recordings that resulted captured statements of Sporyshev, Podobnyy, and other Russian intelligence personnel from January to May 2013, prosecutors said.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-usa-espionage/fbi-penetrated-new-york-based-russian-spy-ring-using-hidden-recorders-idUSKCN0WB2NM


======

"The court documents say that Mr. Page, who founded an investment company in New York called Global Energy Capital, provided documents about the energy business to one of the Russians, Victor Podobnyy, thinking he was a businessman who could help with brokering deals in Russia."

According to the court documents filed in 2015, the F.B.I. secretly recorded Mr. Podobnyy and another Russian operative named Igor Sporyshev discussing efforts to recruit Mr. Page, who was then working in New York as a consultant.

To record their conversations, the F.B.I. inserted a listening device into binders that were passed to the Russian intelligence operatives during an energy conference, according to a former United States intelligence official. The Russians then took the binders into a secure room where they thought they could evade American intelligence eavesdropping attempts.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/04/us/politics/carter-page-trump-russia.htmlIIRC, Page confirmed himself to be "Male-1" in the Podobnyy complaint.

So the narrative you guys are trying out is Page is an undercover FBI agent?

lol

[Chris]

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[spurraider21]

IIRC, Page confirmed himself to be "Male-1" in the Podobnyy complaint.

So the narrative you guys are trying out is Page is an undercover FBI agent?

lol
yeah, the NYT article he posted says that itself
.

The court documents say that Mr. Page, who founded an investment company in New York called Global Energy Capital, provided documents about the energy business to one of the Russians, Victor Podobnyy, thinking he was a businessman who could help with brokering deals in Russia.In fact, Mr. Podobnyy was an S.V.R. officer posing as an attaché at the Russian mission to the United Nations.

Court documents do not identify Mr. Page, but the details in a statement he emailed to reporters on Tuesday match the individual described as “Male-1” in the court case. Mr. Page’s contact with the Russian spy was first reported on Monday by BuzzFeed News (https://www.buzzfeed.com/alimwatkins/a-former-trump-adviser-met-with-a-russian-spy?utm_term=.yg69gKEPx#.kn5ZVM5Ae).

[Chris]

960981614078636032

must watch - explains the FISA review court which consists of 3 members all appointed by Bill Clinton. They reversed the FISA decision in October 2016.

[spurraider21]

must watch
highly unlikely

[Chris]

highly unlikely

srs

[spurraider21]

srs
will check it out after work... i cant be watching videos lol

[Pavlov]

960981614078636032"One has to surmise."

lol reaching

[Chris]

"One has to surmise."

lol reaching

Possibly, glad you watched it tbh :tu

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

krassenstein makes some interesting points... but it still begs the question of why they would need FISA warrants to surveil their own assetNot asset -- employee.

The new narrative is the FBI got a FISA warrant to spy on their own employee.

In 2014.

Really, who was the first to throw this hail mary?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/05/in-march-2016-carter-page-was-an-fbi-employee-in-october-2016-fbi-told-fisa-court-hes-a-spy/

[spurraider21]

i just find it funny that it was presented as a bombshell revelation when the information has been there for a year :lol