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Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 01:38 PM
There's a 22-way tie for man of the match right now.

hater
07-03-2018, 01:41 PM
Ma berracos are hotheads tbqh

Dont fuck with them toithless england, they will fuck you

hater
07-03-2018, 01:41 PM
Heres the toothless brit goal tbqh

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 01:42 PM
Colombus trying to play with 10 again. :lol

hater
07-03-2018, 01:44 PM
Ma nigas are cannibals we will eat the rosy white buttcheeks if need be :lol

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 01:46 PM
What a pathetic game. Neither team should advance

hater
07-03-2018, 01:46 PM
We will also eat their black uncle toms like mini chocolate donuts :lol

Darth_Pelican
07-03-2018, 01:47 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36176311_171873743671221_6406229139740688384_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=cd60bd899220da8955af4ca06fa52810&oe=5BE2D500

hater
07-03-2018, 01:47 PM
One time shot Quinteros :pctoss

hater
07-03-2018, 01:48 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36176311_171873743671221_6406229139740688384_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=0&oh=cd60bd899220da8955af4ca06fa52810&oe=5BE2D500

:tu ma nigas

We might lose but We are putting english fucks in wheelchairs today :tu

hater
07-03-2018, 01:49 PM
:lmao falcao just castrated a niga

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 01:49 PM
These England nikkers have no idea how they want to score.

hater
07-03-2018, 01:50 PM
This ref is a pussy

We quartering nigas here tonight :lol

velik_m
07-03-2018, 01:54 PM
This game is surprisingly uneventful so far. :/

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 01:58 PM
Seeing other replays, that headbutt should've been red.

DAF86
07-03-2018, 02:01 PM
Seeing other replays, that headbutt should've been red.

lol son, no.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:02 PM
Ronaldo to Juventus :wow

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:04 PM
lol son, no.

He hit the chin hard, not just grazing it like I had thought. Any ref worth his salt reds that, son.

DAF86
07-03-2018, 02:06 PM
He hit the chin hard, not just grazing it like I had thought. Any ref worth his salt reds that, son.

I don't see any hard hit, And evidently the refs in VAR didn't either. If not, they would have asked for the play to be reviewed.

hater
07-03-2018, 02:07 PM
Seeing other replays, that headbutt should've been red.

Yes

It should

But ref didnt see it and this was VAR

I like that VAR does not give reds unless a goal situation

Otherwise its too messy

RD2191
07-03-2018, 02:18 PM
:lol soccer is a joke

DAF86
07-03-2018, 02:19 PM
What a weak ass call, tbh.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:21 PM
Colombus keeper almost had the Russian foot save.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:21 PM
Will England switch to four defenders?

Darth_Pelican
07-03-2018, 02:22 PM
:lol there's no way that this game finishes 11 on 11

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 02:22 PM
Culombia :lmao

Jodelo
07-03-2018, 02:25 PM
Colombia is so dumb to argue with the ref and not concentrate on their game. They won't finish with 11.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:27 PM
England player going for personal glory instead of tean glory by not passing on that header.

140
07-03-2018, 02:28 PM
Mi berracos :cry

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 02:29 PM
Borrachos crying more than Jamito. Disgusting to see

hater
07-03-2018, 02:31 PM
:lmao this ref

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 02:32 PM
This ref is the only representation the US of Gay has, and even then the country still manages to embarrass itself infront of the whole world :lol

hater
07-03-2018, 02:32 PM
Legendary flopping by brit fucks

Havent seen this much flopping since Italy vs Argentina 1990

I will be rooting for every english opponent from here on

Even brasil

hater
07-03-2018, 02:33 PM
Blatant game fixing by ref tbqh

Is the ref american?????? :lmao what a shitshow

Darth_Pelican
07-03-2018, 02:36 PM
:lol Colombia has zero corner kicks the entire game

hater
07-03-2018, 02:36 PM
Kane is a bigger flopper than Neymar :lmao

140
07-03-2018, 02:38 PM
This ref is fuckin pathetic, wow :lol

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 02:40 PM
Uribe coming on. Culombia has a chance

Darth_Pelican
07-03-2018, 02:44 PM
:lmao that wasted chance, WTF! That's game

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:45 PM
Columbian needed to one time that.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:46 PM
England's little blacky forwards cannot dribblewhen going to goal.

hater
07-03-2018, 02:48 PM
:lmao worst ref in the cup by far :lol

Had to be american :lol

hater
07-03-2018, 02:50 PM
That ref is getting raped by the end of the game

Splits
07-03-2018, 02:51 PM
1013834759917711367

140
07-03-2018, 02:52 PM
American refs should stick to elementary school games, tbh

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:53 PM
If I was the ref I'd be dying to give out the red. This ref is a pussy though.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:54 PM
1013834759917711367

Lulz

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 02:54 PM
HOLY SHIT

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2018, 02:55 PM
Wooooooowwwwwww!!

DAF86
07-03-2018, 02:55 PM
Justice.

Darth_Pelican
07-03-2018, 02:55 PM
GOALLLLLL

hater
07-03-2018, 02:55 PM
Berracos!!!!!!!!!!!

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2018, 02:55 PM
:lmao England :lmao

Colombia looked fucking terrible for like 88 minutes of this game..wow..

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 02:55 PM
Uribe coming on. Culombia has a chance
Everything I say comes true. His shot won them the corner

spursistan
07-03-2018, 02:55 PM
:lmao..

hater
07-03-2018, 02:56 PM
Ma niga Mina :wow

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:56 PM
Fucking England.

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2018, 02:57 PM
Why does England do this to their soccer fans?

lefty
07-03-2018, 02:57 PM
Justice

Brazil
07-03-2018, 02:57 PM
:lmao

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 02:57 PM
Got to do 30 more min now, and this ref has no control of the game.

hater
07-03-2018, 02:59 PM
:tu

Ma berracos pure heart and vs refs too

:tu

140
07-03-2018, 03:00 PM
Justice.


Justice
Tbh

DAF86
07-03-2018, 03:02 PM
Got to do 30 more min now, and this ref has no control of the game.

30 more minutes of warmup for England. :lol

urunobili
07-03-2018, 03:04 PM
Uruguay is gonna win this.

congrats urunobili

Your jinx means the world to me man! If they win having beat the host, Portugal with the GOAT; France with the future and a dope squad; and Neymar on their way to the finals they'll have an argument as the best team ever TBH.

DAF86
07-03-2018, 03:05 PM
Wow this ref is atrocious.

hater
07-03-2018, 03:05 PM
:wow this ref :wow

What the fuck?????

hater
07-03-2018, 03:06 PM
Someone is dying tonight

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 03:07 PM
White Americans :lmao

Truly the embarrassment of the world

Amuseddaysleeper
07-03-2018, 03:08 PM
hater GET IN!!!

That BARCA CONNECTION THOUGH!

hater
07-03-2018, 03:11 PM
:lmao the ref

DAF86
07-03-2018, 03:11 PM
This ref needs to be investigated.

hater
07-03-2018, 03:13 PM
Ma berracos playing to the death :tu

hater
07-03-2018, 03:14 PM
Mina mina mina mina mina

lefty
07-03-2018, 03:15 PM
American ref gives a yellow card and automatic 1st down

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:16 PM
That England player kept his hand up, pique style.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:16 PM
Ashley Young was dead weight.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:18 PM
White Americans :lmao

Truly the embarrassment of the world

You must have a huge insecurity complex. :lol

hater
07-03-2018, 03:20 PM
:lmao these english floppers :lmao

hater
07-03-2018, 03:21 PM
English fucks are hurt

If Berracos have any sense in them they go for the kill now

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:22 PM
First 15 went as expected. England need to bounce back now.

FlAVaK
07-03-2018, 03:24 PM
Chromatics with Matt Geiger

8YWl7tDGUPA

Brazil
07-03-2018, 03:25 PM
Go Colombia !!!

urunobili
07-03-2018, 03:25 PM
Would any of you would have used your hand instead of your head in the Colombian goal if you were that English player?

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:25 PM
That opening minute what England needed though.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:26 PM
Would any of you would have used your hand instead of your head in the Colombian goal if you were that English player?

It wouldve been 10 v 11 and he had a chance with the header.

FlAVaK
07-03-2018, 03:28 PM
Bogota airport closed, all flights delayed, so everybody can watch the game :wow

Darth_Pelican
07-03-2018, 03:30 PM
Woah that was close

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:32 PM
Inches.

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:32 PM
Kane might've been open at the pk spot.

140
07-03-2018, 03:34 PM
Dem berracos deserve this one tbh

hater
07-03-2018, 03:35 PM
Corner fucking ref :pctoss

This ref :wow

hater
07-03-2018, 03:36 PM
Fuck this ref

hater
07-03-2018, 03:40 PM
The winner is the ref today

Probably made milliions of brittish pounds

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:40 PM
Gonna be a lot of tired kickers.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 03:40 PM
English players taking pessis? Man... :lmao

Congrats hater

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 03:42 PM
The winner is the ref today

Probably made milliions of brittish pounds

Columbus stayed in this game cos the ref, tbh.

DAF86
07-03-2018, 03:49 PM
Pékerman is about to fade away.

Darth_Pelican
07-03-2018, 03:49 PM
:lmao England

RD2191
07-03-2018, 03:52 PM
Colombia :lmao

DAF86
07-03-2018, 03:52 PM
lol Pickford almost finished at the legs of Bacca.

Of course the ref wasn't going to call that. :lol

RD2191
07-03-2018, 03:53 PM
Colombia was cheated the entire game though tbh

DAF86
07-03-2018, 03:54 PM
Colombia was very unfortunate they couldn't have James today. He could have made the difference is such an even match.

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 03:55 PM
:lmao Culombia

You deserve to go home losing in pessis to English farmers

spursistan
07-03-2018, 03:56 PM
Really don't want England to fluke this shit.. They are nothing special. Just extremely lucky with their bracket..

HarlemHeat37
07-03-2018, 03:59 PM
Feel for James, man is crying on the sidelines, they looked so slow and lacked explosiveness without him..

140
07-03-2018, 03:59 PM
If not for the pathetic american ref Colombia would've advanced

Tough one for the berracos tbh

hater
07-03-2018, 04:01 PM
Colombia was cheated the entire game though tbh

Yes

Blatant game fixing

VAR hypothesis has been obliterated this game

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 04:02 PM
Colombia was cheated the entire game though tbh

Dude literally thug pushed Kane in the corner of the box circa 88th minute. They were basically mocking the ref.

hater
07-03-2018, 04:03 PM
Ma berracos played well.

I officially take Brasil off my hate list qnd only England remains :lol

I will be satisfied with this world cup as long as aengoish cheaters lose eventually

Go Brasil :lol

tlongII
07-03-2018, 04:03 PM
Well deserved win by England. Completely dominated the match!

TheGreatYacht
07-03-2018, 04:04 PM
Uruguay, you're the next lucky team.

Brazil
07-03-2018, 04:08 PM
On one side I'm sad for my nig hater tbh.. on the other side good that spurtacular got something right before France/Uru tbh..

spursistan
07-03-2018, 04:13 PM
Really don't want England to fluke this shit.. They are nothing special. Just extremely lucky with their bracket..
Uruguay vs France/Brazil vs Belguim >>>> Croatia vs Russia/England vs Sweden

GTFO :lol

Ghazi
07-03-2018, 04:23 PM
Whats a berraco?

Sad day for my berracos tbh

Canyonero
07-03-2018, 04:25 PM
Weak mind Cokelombia smh

spurraider21
07-03-2018, 04:29 PM
the apa meltdown would be pretty great if final 4 ends up being france, belgium, croatia/russia, england

spurraider21
07-03-2018, 04:29 PM
im pulling for uruguay going forward tho

140
07-03-2018, 04:36 PM
Ma berracos played well.

I officially take Brasil off my hate list qnd only England remains :lol

I will be satisfied with this world cup as long as aengoish cheaters lose eventually

Go Brasil :lol
Ma nig :toast

Blizzardwizard
07-03-2018, 04:39 PM
FIFA rigging the game in favour of Colombia and they still lose :lol

Colombia should’ve had about five players sent off :lol

Perhaps if they’d spent more time playing football instead of kicking. Kane and rolling around they might’ve won. :lol

Losing to England on penalties should see you automatically banned from international competition for the rest of time. :lol


Back to to the pub I go :downspin:

apalisoc_9
07-03-2018, 04:43 PM
hater

Today I cry with you

Tbese euro cacs cheating their way to the finals

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjcry1.png

apalisoc_9
07-03-2018, 04:44 PM
Why does Neymar have to be brazilian? I cant cheer for brazil with him

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjcry1.png

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 04:50 PM
FIFA rigging the game in favour of Colombia and they still lose :lol

Colombia should’ve had about five players sent off :lol

Perhaps if they’d spent more time playing football instead of kicking. Kane and rolling around they might’ve won. :lol

Losing to England on penalties should see you automatically banned from international competition for the rest of time. :lol


Back to to the pub I go :downspin:

Take of the day, tbh.

ElNono
07-03-2018, 05:05 PM
RIP berracos... hopefully they don't blame PekerGOAT for that exit, tbh... he can't go kick penaldos, tbh

pgardn
07-03-2018, 05:06 PM
At 60 minutes England was rolling and Columbia was just asking for a red. Totally out of control.
The lack of composure on the Columbia side was amazing, like some farm team.

And then England just shut it down and did not go for the killer. The temerity of the England squad was also amazing. They were not looking to win. They were looking to hold onto a lead with a guy 6’5” on the opposition with an established ability to get the ball in the air. England is afraid to win with gusto. That was awful.

Neither team should go forward. Just let Sweden advance.

We got served up a really awful game. Too bad.

ElNono
07-03-2018, 05:06 PM
I just feel for any team that needs to play against the doped Russian drones going forward, tbh...

spurraider21
07-03-2018, 05:15 PM
Take of the day, tbh.
typical cuck tbh

USA fan pulling for their former masters :lmao

:cry please england, take us back :cry

hater
07-03-2018, 05:43 PM
hater

Today I cry with you

Tbese euro cacs cheating their way to the finals

https://www.thecoli.com/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/mjcry1.png

Yes english smelly fuckfaces fixed this game

There is no doubt about that

I believe that refs career is over but it cost colombia a quarter finals

Still we were missing our Eliancito Gonzales so we were playing with house koney anyway

Now I will root for any team that faces flopping cheating england

Kane flops more than Neymar

hater
07-03-2018, 05:44 PM
Justt heard the ref bought a Yatch in Quatar

Smh

The saddest part is english fucks not only cheat now but flop more than brazilians

Sad

Bynumite
07-03-2018, 05:48 PM
That scrub that hit the bar on the pk needs to be handed to the local cartel and beheaded tbh imho ;);)

I really don't wanna see England win this shit.

hater
07-03-2018, 05:48 PM
And yes Brasil is off my shit list

Only England remains

Go anyone except the cheaters :lol

hater
07-03-2018, 05:51 PM
I will be ao happy when england loses next game :lol

Sweden got this easy :tu

Blizzardwizard
07-03-2018, 05:51 PM
Shit, I've just seen Falcao rolling in agony down the street past my window - does a Colombia fan want to come and collect him?

rascal
07-03-2018, 06:00 PM
Ma berracos played well.

I officially take Brasil off my hate list qnd only England remains :lol

I will be satisfied with this world cup as long as aengoish cheaters lose eventually

Go Brasil :lol

Columbia played like crap and were lucky to get the game tying goal. How many accurate shots did they take on goal?
I knew they would choke in penalties.

dfens
07-03-2018, 06:08 PM
Damn. Denmark played well tbh.

decent talent, good tactics is enough to go knockout stage tbh. liked denmark too, but these niggas underrated europe constantly because facts hurt their feelings smh :lmao


Fuck Round of 16 destiny strikes again. Game over.

:depressed

Ochoa with 25+ saves :depressed

we don't deserve him
RIP sons.


Belgium gonna win 3-2
lol


Fuck dont tell me France will cakewalk their way to a title :lol
this is how it is, when everybody is choking some choker team wins tbh. Maybe england goes portugal'16 all the way tbh :lol


Fucking immigrants winning it for euro cacs
why are you upset nigga, we took the peasants educated them and gave them a home and now they play for us.


European teams are boring as hell
no wonder euro championship is like watching paint dry
yet they dominate the world cup.


Cuckmerican ref :lmao
Do we have Haitian refs as well since we let any irrelevant country have one?

:lol there's no way that this game finishes 11 on 11

Colombia is so dumb to argue with the ref and not concentrate on their game. They won't finish with 11.

sons the ref sucked so much, lost the control of the game, just a terrible showing .. merican refs :lmao:lmao:lmao

dfens
07-03-2018, 06:09 PM
I'm also glad to see this colombia team go, dirty faggots smh, without that punk ref they'd get carded quickly .. smh... just a team filled with monkeys playing jungleball.

pgardn
07-03-2018, 06:13 PM
And yes Brasil is off my shit list

Only England remains

Go anyone except the cheaters :lol

Cheaters.
What a crock.
They are just bad.

Your Colombia acted like a bunch of spoiled children with no composure whatsoever. Go with Brazil because they are actually good.

dfens
07-03-2018, 06:14 PM
Uruguay vs France/Brazil vs Belguim >>>> Croatia vs Russia/England vs Sweden

GTFO :lol

Croatia showed more football than any side on the other bracket, if we're honest.
Also the weak bracket will produce far more drama tbh.


At 60 minutes England was rolling and Columbia was just asking for a red. Totally out of control.
The lack of composure on the Columbia side was amazing, like some farm team.

And then England just shut it down and did not go for the killer. The temerity of the England squad was also amazing. They were not looking to win. They were looking to hold onto a lead with a guy 6’5” on the opposition with an established ability to get the ball in the air. England is afraid to win with gusto. That was awful.

Neither team should go forward. Just let Sweden advance.

We got served up a really awful game. Too bad.

son just call it for what it is, colombia is a team with coked up monkeys that should be sent back to the jungle.

apalisoc_9
07-03-2018, 06:14 PM
I'm also glad to see this colombia team go, dirty faggots smh, without that punk ref they'd get carded quickly .. smh... just a team filled with monkeys playing jungleball.

Meanwhile American outpost play pussyball against korea :lmao

dfens
07-03-2018, 06:19 PM
Meanwhile American outpost play pussyball against korea :lmao

4 rangz sons, we'll be back.

apalisoc_9
07-03-2018, 06:20 PM
4 rangz sons, we'll be back.

Just gotta have mpre turkz and Africans ?

pgardn
07-03-2018, 06:23 PM
Croatia showed more football than any side on the other bracket, if we're honest.
Also the weak bracket will produce far more drama tbh.



son just call it for what it is, colombia is a team with coked up monkeys that should be sent back to the jungle.

They have had some excellent teams in the past.
This one, in this WC, was not. Bunch of whiners with Junior HS temperaments.
Bunch of sissies.

England still has the same cloud of doom hanging over their heads. They just can’t seem to man up and thrash a decent team. They are scared of losing. That’s pitiful. Play the game. Don’t wimp out.

pgardn
07-03-2018, 06:24 PM
4 rangz sons, we'll be back.

No doubt about that.

pgardn
07-03-2018, 06:27 PM
Meanwhile American outpost play pussyball against korea :lmao

The Germans want nothing to do with Trump.
Gonna have to change that line.

Got to a German airport and wait for your plane on time.
Go to a Phillipino airport and... what? Hope that the connecting flight can actually land?

hater
07-03-2018, 06:55 PM
My 4 teams in the semis as I predicted before this started jigas:

Uruguay
Sweden
Brazil
Croatia

All set :tu

Called this shit :rolleyes

apalisoc_9
07-03-2018, 06:59 PM
Yo for real, had germany won their game against korea they would have been a back to back finals

Bynumite
07-03-2018, 07:11 PM
"We bringing football home" is one of the most obnoxious and repulsive football chants i've ever heard :vomit:

Fucking Brexit voters :lol Foreigners made the EPL the best league in the world, not the english.

apalisoc_9
07-03-2018, 07:39 PM
"We bringing football home" is one of the most obnoxious and repulsive football chants i've ever heard :vomit:

Fucking Brexit voters :lol Foreigners made the EPL the best league in the world, not the english.

Best players in EPL

Salah
De Bruyne
Hazard
Firmino
Ozil
Matic
Silva
Aguero

:lmao

pgardn
07-03-2018, 09:40 PM
Best players in EPL

Salah
De Bruyne
Hazard
Firmino
Ozil
Matic
Silva
Aguero

:lmao

No Kane.

Hes white and English so he does not count.
Ericksen better than Ozil if you insist on putting Ozil up.
Firmino... but no Mane or Sane... ok...

Silva, De Bryune, Aguero, all play for the deepest team in the EPL and the best coach. As individuals they don’t have to show off. Matic... he’s good but that’s a left field choice.

Salah and Hazard are legit.

apalisoc_9
07-03-2018, 10:02 PM
Hope Croatia destroys this English team. So annoying.

apalisoc_9
07-03-2018, 10:02 PM
140

I'm cheering for brazil now hopefully Willian, Coutinho or anyone steal Neymars thunder though

pgardn
07-03-2018, 10:16 PM
Hope Croatia destroys this English team. So annoying.

The way England played today, especially the 2nd half, Sweden will take care of your problem first.

hater
07-03-2018, 11:03 PM
140

I'm cheering for brazil now hopefully Willian, Coutinho or anyone steal Neymars thunder though

Mon negro :tu

Go brasil or Africance tbqh

Beautiful teams with lots of african heritages

Also rooting for Uruguay and Croatia to pummel euroscrub teams

And worst case, Afribelgium will win it :tu

Good shit

Spurtacular
07-03-2018, 11:49 PM
typical cuck tbh

USA fan pulling for their former masters :lmao

:cry please england, take us back :cry

Contrived take. Learn your history, son. England: US have had the most mutually beneficial relationship in the history of countries.

dfens
07-04-2018, 07:20 AM
tbh we should field a full white team, would've gone much further tbh, everybody would've ran tbh.

Blizzardwizard
07-04-2018, 08:03 AM
"We bringing football home" is one of the most obnoxious and repulsive football chants i've ever heard :vomit:

Fucking Brexit voters :lol Foreigners made the EPL the best league in the world, not the english.

It's actually "football's coming home". :lobt2:

And :lol at the USA - the most nationalistic, self-absorbed and egomaniacal nation on the planet - labelling others as obnoxious :lol

dfens
07-04-2018, 08:23 AM
It's actually "football's coming home". :lobt2:

And :lol at the USA - the most nationalistic, self-absorbed and egomaniacal nation on the planet - labelling others as obnoxious :lol

son us people fail to realize the situation of their country tbh. reality is lost on them tbh.

Spurtacular
07-04-2018, 08:35 AM
The way England played today, especially the 2nd half, Sweden will take care of your problem first.

If they score first, perhaps.

hater
07-04-2018, 08:37 AM
tbh we should field a full white team, would've gone much further tbh, everybody would've ran tbh.

:lmao white pasty rosy buttcheek scrubs are only good at maintaining our military bases thats all

We will call you when we need our uniforms drycleaned slave

Spurtacular
07-04-2018, 08:37 AM
tbh we should field a full white team, would've gone much further tbh, everybody would've ran tbh.

Yup, cockiness was Germany's problem. You shouldn't have had those problems of inter strife when you were champs and national pride was on the line. The people causing the problems didn't care about either.

hater
07-04-2018, 08:37 AM
son us people fail to realize the situation of their country tbh. reality is lost on them tbh.

Says the guy that lives in a slave state where we have stationed 25 military bases and tens of thousands of our soldiers :lmao :lol:lmao :lol

hater
07-04-2018, 08:39 AM
Meanwhile American outpost play pussyball against korea :lmao

:lmao

Spurtacular
07-04-2018, 09:06 AM
Crazy to think that one finalist will be Croatia, Russia, Sweden or England.

140
07-04-2018, 09:11 AM
:cry only 8 games left sons :cry

Spurtacular
07-04-2018, 09:57 AM
Got curious about ticket prices. Why are no English fans showing up? The Brits frugal AF? Spending too much money on the muzzie invasion?

https://ticket-compare.com/football/world-cup-russia-2018/?banner=hp

rascal
07-04-2018, 10:46 AM
Contrived take. Learn your history, son. England: US have had the most mutually beneficial relationship in the history of countries.

Questionable
They were enemies for 200 years.

Blizzardwizard
07-04-2018, 11:22 AM
Got curious about ticket prices. Why are no English fans showing up? The Brits frugal AF? Spending too much money on the muzzie invasion?

https://ticket-compare.com/football/world-cup-russia-2018/?banner=hp



Because of the 'tensions' that emerged between English and Russian fans that resulted in mass violence at Euro 2016. English tabloids have heightened and exacerbated the rivalry since - painting a narrative that English fans wouldn't be welcomed in Russia and as a result have scared a lot of fans into avoiding the trip. The recent poisoning of a former Russian spy in England was recently blamed on Russia by the British government too, which has only damaged the relations between the two countries further..

dfens
07-04-2018, 11:43 AM
Because of the 'tensions' that emerged between English and Russian fans that resulted in mass violence at Euro 2016. English tabloids have heightened and exacerbated the rivalry since - painting a narrative that English fans wouldn't be welcomed in Russia and as a result have scared a lot of fans into avoiding the trip. The recent poisoning of a former Russian spy in England was recently blamed on Russia by the British government too, which has only damaged the relations between the two countries further..

safest world cup since '06 sons. South africa and Brazil are massively more dangerous than today's Russia, only a severely uninformed person would believe otherwise.

Spurtacular
07-04-2018, 11:58 AM
Questionable
They were enemies for 200 years.

Tensions were icy for about a century after the Revolutionary War with the Federalists preferring Britain and the anti-Federalists drawn to the French; and of course there was the build-up to the war. But mostly we were strong trade partners throughout.

Spurtacular
07-04-2018, 12:00 PM
Because of the 'tensions' that emerged between English and Russian fans that resulted in mass violence at Euro 2016. English tabloids have heightened and exacerbated the rivalry since - painting a narrative that English fans wouldn't be welcomed in Russia and as a result have scared a lot of fans into avoiding the trip. The recent poisoning of a former Russian spy in England was recently blamed on Russia by the British government too, which has only damaged the relations between the two countries further..

I don't think the Russian govt. are interested in targeting the Brit supporters though, tbh; but sure, maybe many are throwing caution to the wind.

It'll be interesting to see if some of them start coming out of their cocoons now that a final is a realistic possibility.

lefty
07-04-2018, 02:10 PM
Cavani likely to be out


ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

pgardn
07-04-2018, 03:38 PM
safest world cup since '06 sons. South africa and Brazil are massively more dangerous than today's Russia, only a severely uninformed person would believe otherwise.

B FN S


Safe for whom?

Opponents of Putin? Foreign press... uhhhh nooo...
When Putin has a big show on a big stage, hell yes for whites travelers. Or if you are German and visit the tourist spots that rely on $ to be safe.

The English were warned like they always are with emphasis on NEVER use the hotel safes. Your cell phones will be compromised if.... (long list). And you will have a camera in your room, so if you want to fool around with the wife and you are a diplomat or reporter or have ever had contact with any of these, you will be videoed...

Safe....

spursistan
07-04-2018, 03:54 PM
:cry only 8 games left sons :cry
At least yall ringin' bro.. :lol

urunobili
07-04-2018, 03:56 PM
So humbled by y'all nigs high knowledge and mention of our lil country in south america :cry
#thanks
#thoughtsandprayers
#noringwithoutcavani
#onlychancetobeatfranceisbypenalties
#whynoturuguay

lefty
07-04-2018, 04:35 PM
:lmao Argie refs for Uruguay France

140
07-04-2018, 04:39 PM
At least yall ringin' bro.. :lol
Nope I dont see it tbh

Getting past this talented Belgian generation will be a huge overachievement already imho

Either France or Croatia are ringing realistically speaking with Russia as a dark horse because Putin :lol

Spurtacular
07-04-2018, 04:44 PM
Because of the 'tensions' that emerged between English and Russian fans that resulted in mass violence at Euro 2016. English tabloids have heightened and exacerbated the rivalry since - painting a narrative that English fans wouldn't be welcomed in Russia and as a result have scared a lot of fans into avoiding the trip. The recent poisoning of a former Russian spy in England was recently blamed on Russia by the British government too, which has only damaged the relations between the two countries further..


Tensions were icy for about a century after the Revolutionary War with the Federalists preferring Britain and the anti-Federalists drawn to the French; and of course there was the build-up to the war. But mostly we were strong trade partners throughout.

Addendum; there was a brief period that England froze us out. It wasn't 200 years; more like a few decades, maybe.

hater
07-04-2018, 04:59 PM
Got curious about ticket prices. Why are no English fans showing up? The Brits frugal AF? Spending too much money on the muzzie invasion?

https://ticket-compare.com/football/world-cup-russia-2018/?banner=hp

English hooligan faggots got scared of Russian hooligans tbqh

They got their asses handed to them by Russian Spetznas posing as hooligans in the last Eurocup :lmao

Wnglish retards sent their bigest beerbellied fat fucks to that competition while Russians sent jujitsu grappling black belts :lol you can imagine how that went :rollin

After that asskicking they dont want anything to do with Russians :lmao

They will get obliterated by sweden minions anyway

Good riddance

hater
07-04-2018, 05:01 PM
Questionable
They were enemies for 200 years.

Boom

Blows up the propaganda bullshit right out of the water

urunobili
07-04-2018, 05:01 PM
https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/156892437232473497/19C6BD25D8A7B68F808BD74DFC607D7E8EEA337A/

hater
07-04-2018, 05:04 PM
:lmao Argie refs for Uruguay France

Makeup move for that American fag reffing the english colombia game imo

dfens
07-04-2018, 06:09 PM
B FN S


Safe for whom?

Opponents of Putin? Foreign press... uhhhh nooo...
When Putin has a big show on a big stage, hell yes for whites travelers. Or if you are German and visit the tourist spots that rely on $ to be safe.

The English were warned like they always are with emphasis on NEVER use the hotel safes. Your cell phones will be compromised if.... (long list). And you will have a camera in your room, so if you want to fool around with the wife and you are a diplomat or reporter or have ever had contact with any of these, you will be videoed...

Safe....

son that's some tinfoil cap level of paranoia. Russians are happy to have tourists spending money in their cities and their government has better things to do than to spy on tourists fucking random prostitutes, lmao secret camera y'all niggas have seen to many movies. SMH son. Tbh whoever believes that also believes iraq was about freedom, and that's just hopeless. Also I don't rely in $$$ to be safe, the safety level in any of the WC cities is the same as any city and FAR BETTER than Brasil/South Africa ... common sense is more than enough tbh, that's just real talk no bullshit tbh. I don't need special maps and hints like in Brasil/South Africa.

lmao compromised cellphone smh sonss, thanks for the good laugh.

safe = low % of being robbed, high % of not having trouble with police, high % of having access to quality food, high % of quality whores who know the trade, high % stadium and city center are policed properly, low % of organised melees anywhere in relevant areas, high % of all thugs knowing that if they step outta line emperor putin is gonna send them to build canals from urals to the pacific.

Unless you're a government asset Russia is as safe as Paris tbh, if you don't go full retard you'll have no problem and a great time.

pgardn
07-04-2018, 06:19 PM
son that's some tinfoil cap level of paranoia. Russians are happy to have tourists spending money in their cities and their government has better things to do than to spy on tourists fucking random prostitutes, lmao secret camera y'all niggas have seen to many movies. SMH son. Tbh whoever believes that also believes iraq was about freedom, and that's just hopeless. Also I don't rely in $$$ to be safe, the safety level in any of the WC cities is the same as any city and FAR BETTER than Brasil/South Africa ... common sense is more than enough tbh, that's just real talk no bullshit tbh. I don't need special maps and hints like in Brasil/South Africa.

lmao compromised cellphone smh sonss, thanks for the good laugh.

safe = low % of being robbed, high % of not having trouble with police, high % of having access to quality food, high % of quality whores who know the trade, high % stadium and city center are policed properly, low % of organised melees anywhere in relevant areas, high % of all thugs knowing that if they step outta line emperor putin is gonna send them to build canals from urals to the pacific.

Unless you're a government asset Russia is as safe as Paris tbh, if you don't go full retard you'll have no problem and a great time.

Then Mexico is just as safe.

You go to good private tourists spots and they want your money. They have their own private security so you don’t have to be worried about graft by the local police.

And let’s see those crime statistics put out by the Russian press?
Give me a fckn break. You have a good time so YOU know where to go as a WHITE male. So it’s safe.
Every country has their wild places. Places you will get robbed or beaten.

pgardn
07-04-2018, 06:28 PM
son that's some tinfoil cap level of paranoia. Russians are happy to have tourists spending money in their cities and their government has better things to do than to spy on tourists fucking random prostitutes, lmao secret camera y'all niggas have seen to many movies. SMH son. Tbh whoever believes that also believes iraq was about freedom, and that's just hopeless. Also I don't rely in $$$ to be safe, the safety level in any of the WC cities is the same as any city and FAR BETTER than Brasil/South Africa ... common sense is more than enough tbh, that's just real talk no bullshit tbh. I don't need special maps and hints like in Brasil/South Africa.

lmao compromised cellphone smh sonss, thanks for the good laugh.

safe = low % of being robbed, high % of not having trouble with police, high % of having access to quality food, high % of quality whores who know the trade, high % stadium and city center are policed properly, low % of organised melees anywhere in relevant areas, high % of all thugs knowing that if they step outta line emperor putin is gonna send them to build canals from urals to the pacific.

Unless you're a government asset Russia is as safe as Paris tbh, if you don't go full retard you'll have no problem and a great time.

Yeah I watch too many movies. I have a friend that lives in Moscow works for various international press agencies. and I met him through my Uncle who was a US diplomat. So sure too many movies. My Uncle and friend are fluent in Russian.

And I had the displeasure of staying in Moscow back from Sierra Leone where I got to witness what was thought to be Chechnyian slammed up against a wall in those stinky smoke filled airports while traveling with my Uncle. He was a bit dark and in the wrong place.

So Yeah, movies, just like you.

All those brown people are scary.

pgardn
07-04-2018, 06:35 PM
Cell phone give you a laugh

Russia has one of the most competent stealing via hacking on the planet. Government run and just common criminals.

https://inews.co.uk/sport/football/world-cup-2018-russia-england-football-fans-mobile-phone-wifi-warning/

And this was just for the British travelers to the WC

dfens
07-04-2018, 06:38 PM
Then Mexico is just as safe.

You go to good private tourists spots and they want your money. They have their own private security so you don’t have to be worried about graft by the local police.

And let’s see those crime statistics put out by the Russian press?
Give me a fckn break. You have a good time so YOU know where to go as a WHITE male. So it’s safe.
Every country has their wild places. Places you will get robbed or beaten.

sons Mexiko has a pseudo civil war going on, and the threat of being kidnapped is absolutely there. Sure, every country has bad places, but the level of skill required to avoid such places varies GREATLY between Russia and Mexiko/Brasil/South Africa.
In Russia I don't need private police or tours to have a good time in the city center, around the stadium and to drink at night. In Brasil you NEED a guide + security, you also need a guide in Mexiko & South Afrika. The low level corruption in Brasil/Mexiko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low level corruption in Russia. In Russia the worst case is police hustling you for 5-10 euros if you're very unlucky and that's that, which btw isn't happening right now as Putin gave the order for things to run smooth, and anybody caught doing shit is risking more than just their job. In Mexiko/Brasil you get killed for the same amount. In Russia you have a stable society which doesn't pose a danger to you unless you force things, in Mexiko Brasil you're 2 idiots on a scooter away from being dead for nothing. In Russia police will absolutely fuck up anybody right now if it makes their cup look bad, in Brasil police could barely stop the ongoing riots, and I don't even want to imagine what Mexiko would be like. In South Africa friends of mine where robbed at gun point in front of their hotel by nig gangs, all of these people are experienced travellers btw, not you soccer mom on an adventure.

So honestly stop believing what you read in the tabloids and do proper research if you've never been there. How many incidents were there in the world cup right now?, with all the press DYING to shit on Russia? You don't realize this but Russia'18 is safer than France'16 by a fucking mile. Non-whites included.

Smh, please stop talking shit without information.

pgardn
07-04-2018, 06:44 PM
sons Mexiko has a pseudo civil war going on, and the threat of being kidnapped is absolutely there. Sure, every country has bad places, but the level of skill required to avoid such places varies GREATLY between Russia and Mexiko/Brasil/South Africa.
In Russia I don't need private police or tours to have a good time in the city center, around the stadium and to drink at night. In Brasil you NEED a guide + security, you also need a guide in Mexiko & South Afrika. The low level corruption in Brasil/Mexiko >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low level corruption in Russia. In Russia the worst case is police hustling you for 5-10 euros if you're very unlucky and that's that, which btw isn't happening right now as Putin gave the order for things to run smooth, and anybody caught doing shit is risking more than just their job. In Mexiko/Brasil you get killed for the same amount.

So honestly stop believing what you read in the tabloids and do proper research if you've never been there. How many incidents were there in the world cup right now?, with all the press DYING to shit on Russia? You don't realize this but Russia'18 is safer than France'16 by a fucking mile. Non-whites included.

Smh, please stop talking shit without information.

My information is from being there AND from people I know.
So I’m supposed to believe you, and anonymous bigot on a message board? Are you serious?
Level of corruption, level of corruption? In Russia, don’t make me laugh in pain...

Get the fuck out of town son... you don’t have a clue as to what I’m saying. You go to safe tourist spots, just like I do in Mexico.

hater
07-04-2018, 07:25 PM
Dfens finally with a couple decent posts :tu

Props niga

You see what we have to deal with here in the US? :lmao

Brainwashed retards think Russia is like in their hollywood movies :lmao

pgardn
07-04-2018, 08:12 PM
Dfens finally with a couple decent posts :tu

Props niga

You see what we have to deal with here in the US? :lmao

Brainwashed retards think Russia is like in their hollywood movies :lmao

Hater stating someone makes sense...
The kiss of stupid.

SpurOutofTownFan
07-04-2018, 09:16 PM
B FN S


Safe for whom?

Opponents of Putin? Foreign press... uhhhh nooo...
When Putin has a big show on a big stage, hell yes for whites travelers. Or if you are German and visit the tourist spots that rely on $ to be safe.

The English were warned like they always are with emphasis on NEVER use the hotel safes. Your cell phones will be compromised if.... (long list). And you will have a camera in your room, so if you want to fool around with the wife and you are a diplomat or reporter or have ever had contact with any of these, you will be videoed...

Safe....

As an American I smfdh when I see another brainwashed American repeat the same shit on TV over and over. The anti-Russian propaganda all across the US, Canada, and Western/Eastern Europe has reached biblical and hysterical proportions and has really gotten into people's heads.

This propaganda machine (that would put Goebbels to shame) spent over 2 years demonizing the Russians and Russia and attempted to convince many potential tourists of how dangerous the World Cup would be in Russia this year. Despite their efforts, the reports we are seeing coming out of Russia by "real people" every day paint a completely different story. Basically tourists and soccer fans are having a blast - the time of their lives in Russia and can't believe how nice and helpful Russians are.

The above is coming from real people, real tourists and a bunch of them American and British.

Russians are incredible similar to Americans, they want the same things, raise a family, grow, live in peace, etc.

Please stop poisoning the well.

hater
07-04-2018, 09:22 PM
As an American I smfdh when I see another brainwashed American repeat the same shit on TV over and over. The anti-Russian propaganda all across the US, Canada, and Western/Eastern Europe has reached biblical and hysterical proportions and has really gotten into people's heads.

This propaganda machine (that would put Goebbels to shame) spent over 2 years demonizing the Russians and Russia and attempted to convince many potential tourists of how dangerous the World Cup would be in Russia this year. Despite their efforts, the reports we are seeing coming out of Russia by "real people" every day paint a completely different story. Basically tourists and soccer fans are having a blast - the time of their lives in Russia and can't believe how nice and helpful Russians are.

The above is coming from real people, real tourists and a bunch of them American and British.

Russians are incredible similar to Americans, they want the same things, raise a family, grow, live in peace, etc.

Please stop poisoning the well.

Beautiful post ma brotha :tu

dfens
07-05-2018, 02:56 AM
Yeah I watch too many movies. I have a friend that lives in Moscow works for various international press agencies. and I met him through my Uncle who was a US diplomat. So sure too many movies. My Uncle and friend are fluent in Russian.

And I had the displeasure of staying in Moscow back from Sierra Leone where I got to witness what was thought to be Chechnyian slammed up against a wall in those stinky smoke filled airports while traveling with my Uncle. He was a bit dark and in the wrong place.

So Yeah, movies, just like you.

All those brown people are scary.

sons this is all I need to know. I see why your personal experience is that. If you're tied to officials then Russia isn't very friendly tbh, if you're a regular Joe nobody would bother.

pgardn
07-05-2018, 07:10 AM
sons this is all I need to know. I see why your personal experience is that. If you're tied to officials then Russia isn't very friendly tbh, if you're a regular Joe nobody would bother.

Yeah.

A regular Joe who don’t care to know.

You got the MOST mineral rich, farm ready country on the planet and they cant feed their own people. A paranoid deeply corrupt system that won’t let the people determine anything, big little guy knows best. But you are a regular Joe who stops in for a beer so it’s all good.

Got it.

pgardn
07-05-2018, 07:15 AM
As an American I smfdh when I see another brainwashed American repeat the same shit on TV over and over. The anti-Russian propaganda all across the US, Canada, and Western/Eastern Europe has reached biblical and hysterical proportions and has really gotten into people's heads.

This propaganda machine (that would put Goebbels to shame) spent over 2 years demonizing the Russians and Russia and attempted to convince many potential tourists of how dangerous the World Cup would be in Russia this year. Despite their efforts, the reports we are seeing coming out of Russia by "real people" every day paint a completely different story. Basically tourists and soccer fans are having a blast - the time of their lives in Russia and can't believe how nice and helpful Russians are.

The above is coming from real people, real tourists and a bunch of them American and British.

Russians are incredible similar to Americans, they want the same things, raise a family, grow, live in peace, etc.

Please stop poisoning the well.

Because you fckn don’t live there you think it’s all rosy.
Brainwashed American. That’s you.

What do you read to know the above? Where do you get your information that lets you proclaim the above.
Lets see your list. Put up or shut up. Western brainwashing, oh you mean free press that does not exist in Russia.
Great post. Just spot on... You in on that RT news? Good for you. The Russians are nice and helpful. Who ever said the Russian people as a whole are not? You got a king in office for 21 years straight. Borders on a kleptocracy, but you say it’s all good. I feel so much better...

pgardn
07-05-2018, 07:45 AM
All of these people living in stable DEMOCRACIES... wtf is wrong? I’m okay?

Darth_Pelican
07-05-2018, 01:19 PM
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dfens
07-05-2018, 01:28 PM
All of these people living in stable DEMOCRACIES... wtf is wrong? I’m okay?

sons if you really got ties to diplomats you should know these things about Russia:
1) democracy doesn't and can't work in a country that just in the last 100 years had ww1, civil war, war with poland, lenin, stalin, ww2, holmodor, corrupt commies and the cold war, piss-on-himself yeltsin + shock and awe market liberalisation. It just can't because there is no stability to create the wealth to educate people on how to use/protect a democratic process. Russia was always destined for an oligarchy which only differed in name (tsar + royals / commies / putin + mafia). That's it, no discussion here.
2) russian people are not idiots and realize 1), and they also see how their PPP grew dramatically since Putin took the helm. Some problems lately with sanctions, but if you compare the whole graph it's beyond obvious : putin's era quality of life >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeltsin era quality of life.
So that's why putin doesn't get real opposition from his people besides some <1% protests.
3) putin is an absolute master geopolitics player, that influenced usa elections, german/italy/uk/france policy through far right funding, created silk road with china, took back crimea, abkazia, ossetia, crushed chechens, revitalized key industries and the army, stabilized economy to something manageable right now, survives a usa+saudi crunch on oil, won them the world cup, engineered the alternative the IMF with china, and so on. He's an evil man but he's among the GOAT statesmen and quite possibly the best in the last 50 years. He is THAT nigga everybody hates but fears and everybody knows it.

That's why both russians and westerners with access to Russia don't care, because life is shitty and this is the best Russia can do right now. All the westerner principles of life demand a level of stability, prolonged wealth and culture of human individuality and rights which are just incompatible with the realities of today's Russia.

So this is why you won't get another answer. This is what any serious policy maker, foreign investor, or literate Russian will tell you, it is what it is and life goes on.

Spurtacular
07-05-2018, 02:19 PM
lmao compromised cellphone smh sonss, thanks for the good laugh.


Your cellphone is compromised, bruh.

Spurtacular
07-05-2018, 02:19 PM
https://steamusercontent-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/156892437232473497/19C6BD25D8A7B68F808BD74DFC607D7E8EEA337A/

:lol Messi pays no mind to Gaymar's fake tough guy act.

dfens
07-05-2018, 02:25 PM
Your cellphone is compromised, bruh.

sons any cellphone with google / android / facebook / microsoft apps on it is compromised, giving your data free and democratically to the Russians for peanuts. No need for surveillance or fancy tricks.
Brave new world out there nigga smh.

Spurtacular
07-05-2018, 03:33 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjJo2PWchJs

Spurtacular
07-05-2018, 03:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FA6dDvinOrU

Brazil
07-05-2018, 04:31 PM
So humbled by y'all nigs high knowledge and mention of our lil country in south america :cry
#thanks
#thoughtsandprayers
#noringwithoutcavani
#onlychancetobeatfranceisbypenalties
#whynoturuguay

good luck for tomorrow bro.. hope this is going to be a good game

Uruguay got this easy tbh

pgardn
07-05-2018, 05:25 PM
sons any cellphone with google / android / facebook / microsoft apps on it is compromised, giving your data free and democratically to the Russians for peanuts. No need for surveillance or fancy tricks.
Brave new world out there nigga smh.

That’s just flat incorrect.
Wrong.

Its worse in some places than others.
Its via WiFi hoss. Do you know the signal range? Don’t mix up with other weaknesses already built in.
Dont be disingenuous.

And the fact that Spurtacular agrees with you bolsters that last point.

dfens
07-05-2018, 05:39 PM
That’s just flat incorrect.
Wrong.

Its worse in some places than others.
Its via WiFi hoss. Do you know the signal range? Don’t mix up with other weaknesses already built in.
Dont be disingenuous.

And the fact that Spurtacular agrees with you bolsters that last point.

sons I don't know tech like that tbh. The most confidential type of communication I ever used was an encrypted satellite phone with a special dongle for key, and even that was not enough, so each ?? minutes the dongle would generate a new key. This was pretty much standard for any financial ops in gas/oil, back in '00s. I do know that some of my coworkers from tech are paid a shitload of cash to keep shit secure and they told me straight up that any phone with that facebook/google/apple trash is Russia/Chinese/etc exposed. So take out of it what you will, I'm no expert tbh.

pgardn
07-05-2018, 05:43 PM
sons if you really got ties to diplomats you should know these things about Russia:
1) democracy doesn't and can't work in a country that just in the last 100 years had ww1, civil war, war with poland, lenin, stalin, ww2, holmodor, corrupt commies and the cold war, piss-on-himself yeltsin + shock and awe market liberalisation. It just can't because there is no stability to create the wealth to educate people on how to use/protect a democratic process. Russia was always destined for an oligarchy which only differed in name (tsar + royals / commies / putin + mafia). That's it, no discussion here.
2) russian people are not idiots and realize 1), and they also see how their PPP grew dramatically since Putin took the helm. Some problems lately with sanctions, but if you compare the whole graph it's beyond obvious : putin's era quality of life >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeltsin era quality of life.
So that's why putin doesn't get real opposition from his people besides some <1% protests.
3) putin is an absolute master geopolitics player, that influenced usa elections, german/italy/uk/france policy through far right funding, created silk road with china, took back crimea, abkazia, ossetia, crushed chechens, revitalized key industries and the army, stabilized economy to something manageable right now, survives a usa+saudi crunch on oil, won them the world cup, engineered the alternative the IMF with china, and so on. He's an evil man but he's among the GOAT statesmen and quite possibly the best in the last 50 years. He is THAT nigga everybody hates but fears and everybody knows it.

That's why both russians and westerners with access to Russia don't care, because life is shitty and this is the best Russia can do right now. All the westerner principles of life demand a level of stability, prolonged wealth and culture of human individuality and rights which are just incompatible with the realities of today's Russia.

So this is why you won't get another answer. This is what any serious policy maker, foreign investor, or literate Russian will tell you, it is what it is and life goes on.


First bolded: Pure BS speculation because unfortunately a drunk incompetent Yeltsin got into power and then handed it over tomPutin. Agreed democracy is not easy. But to say it’s all they can do? Laughable. And just giving up.

2nd bolded: of course it has stabilized, because it’s got little to zero personal freedom. You give up on that because you can go back to choice. How magnanimous of you.

3rd bolded: Oh that’s just wonderful. What a great thing! He has the MOST MINERAL WEALTH AND THE MOST FARMLAND with an economy the size of California. But he’s hated and feared. That’s just peachy.

4th bolded: Thats the best they can do... why? That’s the ceiling, dfens has found the ceiling for the Russian people. What an analyst...

analyzes Russia and has got it figured out cause he had a beer over there.

pgardn
07-05-2018, 05:45 PM
sons I don't know tech like that tbh. The most confidential type of communication I ever used was an encrypted satellite phone with a special dongle for key, and even that was not enough, so each ?? minutes the dongle would generate a new key. This was pretty much standard for any financial ops in gas/oil, back in '00s. I do know that some of my coworkers from tech are paid a shitload of cash to keep shit secure and they told me straight up that any phone with that facebook/google/apple trash is Russia/Chinese/etc exposed. So take out of it what you will, I'm no expert tbh.

You don’t need to be.
Read the article. WiFi. You got to get on it.

pgardn
07-05-2018, 05:50 PM
I’m wrong.
It looks like California’s economy is at least twice that of Russia.

And as difficult as it is to even wish for change in another country with so much potential we can at least be aware they need to stay the fck away from our institutions because we are free.

https://www.wired.com/story/a-guide-to-russias-high-tech-tool-box-for-subverting-us-democracy/

dfens
07-05-2018, 06:22 PM
sons if you really got ties to diplomats you should know these things about Russia:
1) democracy doesn't and can't work in a country that just in the last 100 years had ww1, civil war, war with poland, lenin, stalin, ww2, holmodor, corrupt commies and the cold war, piss-on-himself yeltsin + shock and awe market liberalisation. It just can't because there is no stability to create the wealth to educate people on how to use/protect a democratic process. Russia was always destined for an oligarchy which only differed in name (tsar + royals / commies / putin + mafia). That's it, no discussion here.
2) russian people are not idiots and realize 1), and they also see how their PPP grew dramatically since Putin took the helm. Some problems lately with sanctions, but if you compare the whole graph it's beyond obvious : putin's era quality of life >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeltsin era quality of life.
So that's why putin doesn't get real opposition from his people besides some <1% protests.
3) putin is an absolute master geopolitics player, that influenced usa elections, german/italy/uk/france policy through far right funding, created silk road with china, took back crimea, abkazia, ossetia, crushed chechens, revitalized key industries and the army, stabilized economy to something manageable right now, survives a usa+saudi crunch on oil, won them the world cup, engineered the alternative the IMF with china, and so on. He's an evil man but he's among the GOAT statesmen and quite possibly the best in the last 50 years. He is THAT nigga everybody hates but fears and everybody knows it.

That's why both russians and westerners with access to Russia don't care, because life is shitty and this is the best Russia can do right now. All the westerner principles of life demand a level of stability, prolonged wealth and culture of human individuality and rights which are just incompatible with the realities of today's Russia.

So this is why you won't get another answer. This is what any serious policy maker, foreign investor, or literate Russian will tell you, it is what it is and life goes on.


First bolded: Pure BS speculation because unfortunately a drunk incompetent Yeltsin got into power and then handed it over tomPutin. Agreed democracy is not easy. But to say it’s all they can do? Laughable. And just giving up.

2nd bolded: of course it has stabilized, because it’s got little to zero personal freedom. You give up on that because you can go back to choice. How magnanimous of you.

3rd bolded: Oh that’s just wonderful. What a great thing! He has the MOST MINERAL WEALTH AND THE MOST FARMLAND with an economy the size of California. But he’s hated and feared. That’s just peachy.

4th bolded: Thats the best they can do... why? That’s the ceiling, dfens has found the ceiling for the Russian people. What an analyst...

analyzes Russia and has got it figured out cause he had a beer over there.


mistakes:
- GDP instead of PPP shows you've never worked in economics so your financial assessment is just flawed from the start.
- ignore social/educational/institutional costs that are shown to be enormous in even the small ex-soviet states (ideal cases: ethnically homogenous, 30 years of western investment, politically stable, easy to build up infrastructure in them, access to euro market)
- farmland in a low density country is only useful for export, but it becomes pointless if not cost competitive with extern markets, as the commies could've told you 50 years ago. Competitiveness comes from a stable advanced economy (not implementable in Russia for myriad or reasons) or from slavery (could be used but more efficient to run a resource economy right now).
- yeltsin was not elected by mistake nor by ignorance, he was elected FOR his incompetence BY the oligarchs who massively benefitted from his administration. Putin wasn't given power, the KGB just stepped up in Russia's time of need and slowly crept into the new oligarch system, slowly taking control away from it.
- democracy isn't built in 30 years in an unstable, corrupt, unskilled, economically devasted, poor infrastructure, socially hostile environment. Especially when that country is world power with many nukes. Ideally the first step is long term stability and wealth accumulation and then a slow transition to a less corrupt administration, then a slow transition from protectionism to interventionism when competiveness increases, otherwise you're just exposing the internal market to collapse due to uncompetitiveness and corruption (90s in russia) which leads to national collapse and going back to step 1. Putin is running the economical game excellently from this pov, as he is centralizing economical power, accumulating wealth and stabilizing the country, and taking it away from the oligarchs, which is Putin's endgame in terms of russian internal economics. While this is still defrauding, it is a defrauding process which keeps a larger percentage of the stolen wealth in Russia, which is then redistributed to key segments (military, auto, it, infrastructure) instead of just being standard capital drain and thieving (as seen in ex-soviet states and 90s russia).

anyway, if you want to argue on this topic you'll need to show some skill, otherwise I'm too bored by the college sophomore level takes to even sketch something.

tldr for the economics-challenged: any transparent government would be run over by the power of the oligarchs and we'd be back to the 90s. Ivan doesn't understand the delicate economics processes happening right now but he is standing pat on social issues as he'd rather not go back to the hyperinflation/hypercorruption of the 90s where the job market/currency/system collapsed and he starved and froze.

dfens
07-05-2018, 06:23 PM
I’m wrong.
It looks like California’s economy is at least twice that of Russia.

And as difficult as it is to even wish for change in another country with so much potential we can at least be aware they need to stay the fck away from our institutions because we are free.

https://www.wired.com/story/a-guide-to-russias-high-tech-tool-box-for-subverting-us-democracy/

for the love of god use PPP when comparing two completely different economies. GDP just makes no sense for non/low transactional economies.

SpurOutofTownFan
07-05-2018, 06:43 PM
Because you fckn don’t live there you think it’s all rosy.
Brainwashed American. That’s you.

What do you read to know the above? Where do you get your information that lets you proclaim the above.
Lets see your list. Put up or shut up. Western brainwashing, oh you mean free press that does not exist in Russia.
Great post. Just spot on... You in on that RT news? Good for you. The Russians are nice and helpful. Who ever said the Russian people as a whole are not? You got a king in office for 21 years straight. Borders on a kleptocracy, but you say it’s all good. I feel so much better...

Jesus Christ - it's worse than what I thought!!!!

Let me pick this shit apart:

Because you fckn don’t live there you think it’s all rosy. -> Do you live there to know otherwise? No you don't so how are you so sure the bullshit you consume is true?
Brainwashed American. That’s you. -> No, that's you - I'm a free-thinker. You are a koolaid drinker

What do you read to know the above? Where do you get your information that lets you proclaim the above.Lets see your list. Put up or shut up -> Just the multiple people, real people who report from there. The people you run into in the street. You can communicate freely today with almost anyone. Those who are there say this is the best World Cup ever. Best stadiums, best security, best organization.

oh you mean free press that does not exist in Russia. -> So the press in the US is free? you are delusional beyond measure

You in on that RT news? Good for you -> I would expect you to say something like this. You do watch Fox, don't you?? GOTCHA!!!!! ROLF

Borders on a kleptocracy, -> and what do you think our President runs on???? or american politics in general??? Jesus Christ you need some serious wakeup

SpurOutofTownFan
07-05-2018, 07:00 PM
anyway, if you want to argue on this topic you'll need to show some skill, otherwise I'm too bored by the college sophomore level takes to even sketch something.

dfens my youngest son - you are now officially abusing this kid, enough son I beg you

DAF86
07-05-2018, 07:14 PM
Stop fagging it up fags.

pgardn
07-05-2018, 07:17 PM
Jesus Christ - it's worse than what I thought!!!!

Let me pick this shit apart:

Because you fckn don’t live there you think it’s all rosy. -> Do you live there to know otherwise? No you don't so how are you so sure the bullshit you consume is true?
Brainwashed American. That’s you. -> No, that's you - I'm a free-thinker. You are a koolaid drinker

What do you read to know the above? Where do you get your information that lets you proclaim the above.Lets see your list. Put up or shut up -> Just the multiple people, real people who report from there. The people you run into in the street. You can communicate freely today with almost anyone. Those who are there say this is the best World Cup ever. Best stadiums, best security, best organization.

oh you mean free press that does not exist in Russia. -> So the press in the US is free? you are delusional beyond measure

You in on that RT news? Good for you -> I would expect you to say something like this. You do watch Fox, don't you?? GOTCHA!!!!! ROLF

Borders on a kleptocracy, -> and what do you think our President runs on???? or american politics in general??? Jesus Christ you need some serious wakeup

What do you read?
Where do you get your information?

And of course I tune in on FOX and RT from time to time to laugh at the BS. You cant criticize what you don’t ever access.

Im not talking about the US. And that’s not what a kleptocracy is anyway. We know what problems we have in the US because we have free press. So were do you get your info on Russia since the west is biased?

Give me your non western news sources with articles on Russia explaining how I’m brainwashed.
I dare you to list what you read... Since you don’t drink the coolaid give us your preferring news sources.
Now watch the chicken shit shrivel... You pick this shit apart, go ahead with your list.

pgardn
07-05-2018, 07:19 PM
Stop fagging it up fags.

its on tomorrow... we got some good games methinks.

diego
07-05-2018, 07:19 PM
All the people ragging on neymar- Brits especially- can go fuck themselves. These are the same people that justified suspending Suarez for a year, but have nothing to say about teams hunting neymar purposely, and more importantly without any consequences.

I say Brits especially because their players flopped pathetically vs colombia, and because they celebrate pieces of shit like stiles, Keane etc.

pgardn
07-05-2018, 07:21 PM
for the love of god use PPP when comparing two completely different economies. GDP just makes no sense for non/low transactional economies.

Bull shit.
If you work from within you are already behind.
Please don’t try that shit on me.

pgardn
07-05-2018, 07:26 PM
mistakes:
- GDP instead of PPP shows you've never worked in economics so your financial assessment is just flawed from the start.
- ignore social/educational/institutional costs that are shown to be enormous in even the small ex-soviet states (ideal cases: ethnically homogenous, 30 years of western investment, politically stable, easy to build up infrastructure in them, access to euro market)
- farmland in a low density country is only useful for export, but it becomes pointless if not cost competitive with extern markets, as the commies could've told you 50 years ago. Competitiveness comes from a stable advanced economy (not implementable in Russia for myriad or reasons) or from slavery (could be used but more efficient to run a resource economy right now).
- yeltsin was not elected by mistake nor by ignorance, he was elected FOR his incompetence BY the oligarchs who massively benefitted from his administration. Putin wasn't given power, the KGB just stepped up in Russia's time of need and slowly crept into the new oligarch system, slowly taking control away from it.
- democracy isn't built in 30 years in an unstable, corrupt, unskilled, economically devasted, poor infrastructure, socially hostile environment. Especially when that country is world power with many nukes. Ideally the first step is long term stability and wealth accumulation and then a slow transition to a less corrupt administration, then a slow transition from protectionism to interventionism when competiveness increases, otherwise you're just exposing the internal market to collapse due to uncompetitiveness and corruption (90s in russia) which leads to national collapse and going back to step 1. Putin is running the economical game excellently from this pov, as he is centralizing economical power, accumulating wealth and stabilizing the country, and taking it away from the oligarchs, which is Putin's endgame in terms of russian internal economics. While this is still defrauding, it is a defrauding process which keeps a larger percentage of the stolen wealth in Russia, which is then redistributed to key segments (military, auto, it, infrastructure) instead of just being standard capital drain and thieving (as seen in ex-soviet states and 90s russia).

anyway, if you want to argue on this topic you'll need to show some skill, otherwise I'm too bored by the college sophomore level takes to even sketch something.

tldr for the economics-challenged: any transparent government would be run over by the power of the oligarchs and we'd be back to the 90s. Ivan doesn't understand the delicate economics processes happening right now but he is standing pat on social issues as he'd rather not go back to the hyperinflation/hypercorruption of the 90s where the job market/currency/system collapsed and he starved and froze.

There are so many things wrong in here. Especially with Yeltsin.

I will address.

Spurtacular
07-05-2018, 10:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YxKcNqhIX4

dfens
07-06-2018, 02:14 AM
Bull shit.
If you work from within you are already behind.
Please don’t try that shit on me.

sons GDP makes sense for transaction heavy economies as it depicts transactionality without context. It's not even accurate for service economies since it can be inflated or oscillated (like us does before and after gdp reports, pretty common joke in economics btw). In non-transactional economies specific for transition/resource/rural-urban hybrid economies the transaction itself is not the mechanism which powers the economy, hence transactionality is low as its usage is of lower importance to the overall internal economy, usually done through some form of oligarchy/monopoly/state-control. Hence GDP is pointless there. This is basics smh.

I'll throw you a bone and explain it by steps:
1. Non-transactionality is a desired feature of a heavily corrupt environment as it minimizes the capital drain in highly economically autonomous (legal or through corruption) entities/regions/markets, which is exactly what you had with the oligarchs just 10 years ago. Basically first you want to minimize capital flight at the expense of anything else (rights, democracy, government transparency, etc).
2. This internal non-transactional economy is used to centralize power from many autonomous entities to a few centralized power entities, which then control the entire system. This is now, Putin's gang accumulating power and wealth.
3. The next step is purging autonomous non-centralized entities (poison, nerve gas, prison, gulag, "anti-corruption" laws, etc) + reinvestment of accumulated capital into critical fields owned by the centralized power, and there you see tech (VK, RT global, info war, etc), army, infrastructure + transport (aero, auto, etc) , agribusiness in today's Russia.
4. Once the markets are stabilized in a another 10-20 years we might see some laissez faire in the cities (not the countryside) to a) cater to the under 30 generation which lacks the experience old Ivan had in the 90s and b) increase city competitiveness.

you can also observe the same economic strategies in China and India. This is not research tbh, and also the west economic elite is happy with this economic activity as it helps suppress wages in western economies, through international trade.

maybe you learn something hopefully tbh?

dfens
07-06-2018, 02:19 AM
dfens my youngest son - you are now officially abusing this kid, enough son I beg you

sons I'm helping these niggas out, it's a cold world out there tbh :cry

SpurOutofTownFan
07-06-2018, 07:05 AM
sons I'm helping these niggas out, it's a cold world out there tbh :cry

he seems to be pretty thick up there - I doubt he'll be able to digest this level of knowledge. Lots of hotpockets at his momma's basement tbqh

TheGreatYacht
07-06-2018, 08:55 AM
I got Uruguay

TheGreatYacht
07-06-2018, 08:58 AM
Argie ref? Wow this is blatant robbery. Same one who fucked over Mexico against Sweden too

Brazil
07-06-2018, 09:05 AM
I got Uruguay

son. pls

Darth_Pelican
07-06-2018, 09:08 AM
Good games today.

France 2
Uruguay 1

Belgium 3
Brazil 2

Brazil
07-06-2018, 09:14 AM
Good games today.

France 2
Uruguay 1

Belgium 3
Brazil 2

:lol hope you're right bro :tu

Brazil
07-06-2018, 09:17 AM
Pavard and Hernandez are in difficulty big time.. not good

TheGreatYacht
07-06-2018, 09:19 AM
Don't think enough is being said on commentary and on social media how stupid it is to have an Argie crew ref this game. Not just because Argentinians and Uruguayans are brothers, but because France just finished donkey fucking the midgets.

I wonder who France pissed off at FIFA....

Brazil
07-06-2018, 09:40 AM
Varane !!!! Yesss

Darth_Pelican
07-06-2018, 09:40 AM
:wow that goal

lefty
07-06-2018, 09:43 AM
Madrid players doing Madrid things

Darth_Pelican
07-06-2018, 09:44 AM
great save

hater
07-06-2018, 09:54 AM
Africance 2
Uruguay 1

AfroBelgium 1
Brazil 2

Spurtacular
07-06-2018, 09:55 AM
Non immigrants carrying France at the biggest time.

velik_m
07-06-2018, 09:56 AM
Hopefully the second half is more dynamic.

Spurtacular
07-06-2018, 09:58 AM
Uruguay will score and take this to extra time, tbh.

hater
07-06-2018, 10:00 AM
Non immigrants carrying France at the biggest time.

Africans must be exhausted of carrying them 2 pasty white scrubs for 4 games straight

diego
07-06-2018, 10:00 AM
Argie ref? Wow this is blatant robbery. Same one who fucked over Mexico against Sweden too

You'd think that, but first half has been the opposite. France set the tone with hard fouls (Pogba should have been carded 10 min in) and Pitana has allowed it.

:lol at the people who defended the Kane penalty silent about godin getting clearly fouled by two french defenders

Spurtacular
07-06-2018, 10:01 AM
Africans must be exhausted

Yea, they don't have the IQ to pace themselves.

Spurtacular
07-06-2018, 10:02 AM
Argie ref? Wow this is blatant robbery. Same one who fucked over Mexico against Sweden too

:lol Noob

Darth_Pelican
07-06-2018, 10:20 AM
:lmao A starting WC goalie scared of staying in front of the ball

Spurtacular
07-06-2018, 10:21 AM
Keeper should've punched Pogba in the face on the follow-through, tbh.

TheGreatYacht
07-06-2018, 10:23 AM
You're welcome son Brazil

spurraider21
07-06-2018, 10:24 AM
Wtf :lol

Darth_Pelican
07-06-2018, 10:27 AM
:lmao that flop
:lmao flopping with a 2-0 lead

Spurtacular
07-06-2018, 10:28 AM
:lmao A starting WC goalie scared of staying in front of the ball

That was pathetic.

hater
07-06-2018, 10:28 AM
Brasil and Croatia the only 2 countries standing between Africa and its first world cup :tu

Spurtacular
07-06-2018, 10:43 AM
A Portugal-France Euro Cup rematch would've been better. U-gay f'd w/o Cavani.

resistanze
07-06-2018, 10:43 AM
Fuck Suarez tbh