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DisAsTerBot
03-22-2018, 01:04 PM
the day isn't complete until koriwhat demands the death of multiple people in all caps
He’s not angry. he couldn’t be more chill, sissy boy!
dabom
03-22-2018, 02:43 PM
976873166873210880
:lmao
Boom. X2
KenMcCoy
03-22-2018, 03:19 PM
"...might violate American law"
Which laws did they violate?
Pavlov
03-22-2018, 03:23 PM
"...might violate American law"
Which laws did they violate?Dude says it right in the video you lazy twerp.
KenMcCoy
03-22-2018, 04:15 PM
Sorry...I wasn't aware that Trump had announced his candidacy in 2014. Thanks for clarifying for me.
The company’s responsibilities under US law were laid out in a lawyer’s memo to the company’s vice-president, Steve Bannon, British CEO Alexander Nix and Rebekah Mercer, daughter of billionaire owner Robert Mercer, in July 2014. It made it clear that most senior and mid-level positions involving strategy, planning, fundraising or campaigning needed to be filled by US citizens.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-analytica-non-american-employees-political
Pavlov
03-22-2018, 04:22 PM
Sorry...I wasn't aware that Trump had announced his candidacy in 2014. Thanks for clarifying for me.
The company’s responsibilities under US law were laid out in a lawyer’s memo to the company’s vice-president, Steve Bannon, British CEO Alexander Nix and Rebekah Mercer, daughter of billionaire owner Robert Mercer, in July 2014. It made it clear that most senior and mid-level positions involving strategy, planning, fundraising or campaigning needed to be filled by US citizens.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/mar/17/cambridge-analytica-non-american-employees-politicalAnd there are reports they ignored those laws.
You think the memos describe past actions? :lol
KenMcCoy
03-22-2018, 04:36 PM
And there are reports they ignored those laws.
You think the memos describe past actions? :lol
"Two employees confirmed that they were still answering ultimately to Nix throughout the mid-term election campaigns that ended in November 2014."
"Cambridge Analytica said that the company “adheres to FEC [Federal Election Commission] regulations” and that Nix had never been in charge of work on any US election campaigns."
The whistleblower only knows about 2014 stuff...wouldn't be surprised that they changed their structure over the next 3 years.
Pavlov
03-22-2018, 04:40 PM
"Two employees confirmed that they were still answering ultimately to Nix throughout the mid-term election campaigns that ended in November 2014."
"Cambridge Analytica said that the company “adheres to FEC [Federal Election Commission] regulations” and that Nix had never been in charge of work on any US election campaigns."
The whistleblower only knows about 2014 stuff...wouldn't be surprised that they changed their structure over the next 3 years.I'm going to conclude you didn't watch the Channel 4 stories either where Nix brags about his active role in the Trump campaign.
:lol not one Trumpista has watched them
KenMcCoy
03-22-2018, 04:45 PM
I've seen them...I also saw the end of the videos where the narrator basically says "much of this is salesmanship and they probably didn't do all the things stated." Did you conveniently forget that part?
Pavlov
03-22-2018, 05:02 PM
I've seen them...I also saw the end of the videos where the narrator basically says "much of this is salesmanship and they probably didn't do all the things stated." Did you conveniently forget that part?Oh, the head of the company that intentionally broke the law regarding foreign nationals working directly for elections stopped working directly on US elections and is just lying about working directly on US elections so he can work directly on other foreign elections?
:lmao
Pavlov
03-22-2018, 05:07 PM
Yeah, these guys really seem an honest, trustworthy lot:
976241838691700736
lol Ken
KenMcCoy
03-22-2018, 05:08 PM
1) Laws are subjective and lawyers will always take the most conservative positions on anything written.
2) CEOs rarely work "directly" on anything.
Pavlov
03-22-2018, 05:10 PM
1) Laws are subjective and lawyers will always take the most conservative positions on anything written.
2) CEOs rarely work "directly" on anything.:lmao look at this little fantasy world you have to create to protect Trump.
KenMcCoy
03-22-2018, 05:12 PM
Yeah, these guys really seem an honest, trustworthy lot:
976241838691700736
lol Ken
Lol...I never said they were honest. Read my first posts...I don't like how they gathered data and I'm also pretty sure they may have bribed some small local players.
My question was, and still is, which US laws did they break? I HOPE they broke some laws so an example is set, but a memo from 2014, handed over from people that only worked on the 2014 Colorado campaigns isn't enough proof for me.
Pavlov
03-22-2018, 05:14 PM
I HOPE they broke some laws:lol no you don't
KenMcCoy
03-22-2018, 05:15 PM
Mind reader now?
Pavlov
03-22-2018, 05:16 PM
Mind reader now?Trump supporter?
spurraider21
03-22-2018, 05:20 PM
Trump supporter?
who wouldn't support The Trumpster
KenMcCoy
03-22-2018, 05:27 PM
Yes, but I can hope that CA did break some laws especially around data collection.
baseline bum
03-23-2018, 10:37 AM
Cambridge Analytica taking tips from Stringer Bell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbbZc2pab9k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwC61P9qXCY
djohn2oo8
03-23-2018, 10:41 AM
Yes, but I can hope that CA did break some laws especially around data collection.
They broke plenty.
djohn2oo8
03-25-2018, 09:07 PM
978082691294822400
Double boom
djohn2oo8
03-25-2018, 10:01 PM
978101144735039488
pgardn
03-25-2018, 10:18 PM
And then we go how to how effective this really was in a close election.
Those of you that live in Texas have friends that are Trumpsters. They are not all crazy. They hated Clinton. And I get that.
Its the not seeing what we got now that is disturbing. I stop them from saying but Hillary... Clinton is not the president. Again, IMO it was gonna be close without all this mess. So this might actual work as a hard lesson that an entertainer businessman with a populist message should not even sniff a primary win. Maybe.... I hope.... Businesses are not democracies. Democracy is inefficient but supposed to be transparent. And in being transparent, vulnerable to being criticized. The hard part is getting things done. Hopefully congress fully digests what is happening now.
boutons_deux
03-26-2018, 08:25 AM
"congress fully digests what is happening now."
:lol Repugs/oligarchy getting EVERYTHING they want,
are deliriously happy with "happening now", and
they continue on every front to establish the oligarchy as the overwhelming, unstoppable, irreversible power in America.
Effectively, a "one party" oligarchy after the coup d'etat over that past 45 years.
djohn2oo8
03-26-2018, 10:39 AM
978286189299032064
boutons_deux
03-26-2018, 11:23 AM
Cambridge Analytica and its Russian scientist now suspected of playing a role in the Brexit vote
Brexit weakens Europe as part of Pootin's geopolitics.
djohn2oo8
03-26-2018, 12:12 PM
978317423836352514
djohn2oo8
03-26-2018, 12:25 PM
978287904161230848
boutons_deux
03-26-2018, 01:29 PM
The entire business model for Google and Facebook is built on data collection of users, data that is sold to all comers.
Google is fundamentally, in financial terms, an advertising company, while Facebook strives to be the same.
I really doubt the Repugs will kill that business model, because Google and Facebook will spend $100Ms on Repugs to defend their business models.
djohn2oo8
03-27-2018, 09:23 PM
978815213037391874
djohn2oo8
03-27-2018, 09:31 PM
Oh and Thiel is a Facebook board member.
djohn2oo8
03-27-2018, 09:35 PM
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djohn2oo8
03-27-2018, 09:40 PM
978636490442977290
djohn2oo8
03-27-2018, 09:44 PM
978824575684370432
And a little more background
djohn2oo8
03-27-2018, 09:47 PM
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djohn2oo8
03-27-2018, 09:50 PM
978815518256910336
Like I said. Only 5% of this is public.
pgardn
03-27-2018, 10:11 PM
978824575684370432
And a little more background
This is the guy into Seasteading.
How are you saying Facebook is fucked?
Be specific.
978855974923591682
Shares of Facebook began plummeting on Tuesday, March 27, after the US consumer protection regulator said it was investigating how 50million users' data got into the hands of political consultancy Cambridge Analytica.
More than $50billion (£35bn) was wiped off the value of shares in the wake of concerns over data breaches, and they've since fallen further.
Zuck and co. are now down by $95billion (£67billion).
That drop is greater than the total market value of major corporations such as chip-maker Qualcomm ($85billion), Starbucks ($81billion) and Costco ($80billion).
The US Federal Trade Commission confirmed it was probing the social media mammoth's privacy practices.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5853280/facebook-share-price-latest-stocks-cambridge-analytica/
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 12:34 PM
978855974923591682
Shares of Facebook began plummeting on Tuesday, March 27, after the US consumer protection regulator said it was investigating how 50million users' data got into the hands of political consultancy Cambridge Analytica.
More than $50billion (£35bn) was wiped off the value of shares in the wake of concerns over data breaches, and they've since fallen further.
Zuck and co. are now down by $95billion (£67billion).
That drop is greater than the total market value of major corporations such as chip-maker Qualcomm ($85billion), Starbucks ($81billion) and Costco ($80billion).
The US Federal Trade Commission confirmed it was probing the social media mammoth's privacy practices.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/tech/5853280/facebook-share-price-latest-stocks-cambridge-analytica/So just share price?
OK. That was prophetic.
Are you Q?
boutons_deux
03-28-2018, 01:11 PM
This is the guy into Seasteading.
And is one of the tech billionaires buying in NZ for when civilization collapses
http://www.businessinsider.com/peter-thiel-is-building-a-panic-room-into-his-house-in-new-zealand-2018-2
djohn2oo8
03-28-2018, 02:28 PM
979074474791366657
KenMcCoy
03-28-2018, 02:34 PM
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Haha...Trump lost Colorado by practically the same number of votes. That CA data really helped him out...
spurraider21
03-28-2018, 02:42 PM
Haha...Trump lost Colorado by practically the same number of votes. That CA data really helped him out...
violations of statutes should not be enforced unless the party succeeded in their ultimate plan
KenMcCoy
03-28-2018, 02:47 PM
Never said that. I just think CA is like vaporware...their data really wasn't able to do anything but identify trends in large populations.
If they broke the law, they should be prosecuted to the full extent. Same with Trump, or any PAC that colluded with them.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 02:48 PM
Haha...Trump lost Colorado by practically the same number of votes. That CA data really helped him out...Numbers don't work the way you think they do.
KenMcCoy
03-28-2018, 02:51 PM
Numbers don't work the way you think they do.
How do they work?
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 02:54 PM
How do they work?The number of FB records has no bearing on Trump's losing a state by the same number of votes.
KenMcCoy
03-28-2018, 02:57 PM
The number of FB records has no bearing on Trump's losing a state by the same number of votes.
Why not?
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:01 PM
Why not?OK, walk me through how it worked out that way, Ken.
KenMcCoy
03-28-2018, 03:01 PM
OK, walk me through how it worked out that way, Ken.
I asked you to show me the inverse...
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:03 PM
I asked you to show me the inverse...You asked me to prove a negative.
KenMcCoy
03-28-2018, 03:05 PM
Surely you can do better than that...
spurraider21
03-28-2018, 03:08 PM
Numbers don't work the way you think they do.
How do they work?
You asked me to prove a negative.
no. he asked you to show how they work. how they work is not a negative
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:10 PM
no. he asked you to show how they work. how they work is not a negativeOh. How they work is this:
Records are used to make facebook ads and posts.
Votes are cast.
They count the number of votes.
There you go.
Any more questions?
Chucho
03-28-2018, 03:13 PM
no. he asked you to show how they work. how they work is not a negative
:lol
spurraider21
03-28-2018, 03:13 PM
Oh. How they work is this:
Records are used to make facebook ads and posts.
Votes are cast.
They count the number of votes.
There you go.
Any more questions?
i'm not the one who asked tbh :lol
KenMcCoy
03-28-2018, 03:27 PM
Oh. How they work is this:
Records are used to make facebook ads and posts.
Votes are cast.
They count the number of votes.
There you go.
Any more questions?
So the CA data being used isn't any more useful/effective than Nielsen data for TV ads? Everyone is making it seem like CA data was THE difference maker for Trump.
Pavlov
03-28-2018, 03:31 PM
So the CA data being used isn't any more useful/effective than Nielsen data for TV ads? Everyone is making it seem like CA data was THE difference maker for Trump.It may have been.
It wasn't necessary to win Colorado, however. The numbers prove it. That's how numbers work.
djohn2oo8
03-30-2018, 10:05 AM
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lol Bolton
djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 02:00 PM
981603588387540993
SpursforSix
04-04-2018, 02:03 PM
981603588387540993
Is that pretty much every real FB user in the US then?
djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 02:04 PM
Is that pretty much every real FB user in the US then?
Yes.
djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 02:26 PM
Number likely to end up over 100 million.
Pavlov
04-04-2018, 02:31 PM
Number likely to end up over 100 million.Yeah, these numbers have a tendency to grow quite a bit.
djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 02:42 PM
981616950215311361
Russians everywhere
koriwhat
04-04-2018, 03:20 PM
too funny but let's not talk about how obama did exactly the same during his 2012 run. lmao you fuck face losers!
Pavlov
04-04-2018, 03:21 PM
too funny but let's not talk about how obama did exactly the same during his 2012 run. lmao you fuck face losers!Inaccurate *ding*
djohn2oo8
04-04-2018, 03:22 PM
Inaccurate *ding*
:lol
koriwhat
04-04-2018, 03:27 PM
Inaccurate *ding*
prove it.
Pavlov
04-04-2018, 03:34 PM
prove it.The people who gave Obama's campaign facebook information knew they were doing so through an app explicitly made for that purpose. CA took the information from people who thought they were just taking a personality quiz. The Obama information was used to encourage users to contact friends they thought could be persuaded to vote for Obama. CA directly targeted the people they collected data from with digital ads.
Therefore, it definitely not exactly the same.
QED
SpursforSix
04-04-2018, 04:33 PM
Facebook Says Data From Most of Its 2 Billion Users Vulnerable
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-04/facebook-says-data-on-87-million-people-may-have-been-shared
SpursforSix
04-04-2018, 04:35 PM
Facebook Says Data From Most of Its 2 Billion Users Vulnerable
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-04/facebook-says-data-on-87-million-people-may-have-been-shared
I'm skeptical at 2 Billion Users though.
boutons_deux
04-28-2018, 01:06 PM
Facebook confesses: Buckle up, there's plenty more privacy lapses where that came from
It's a $460bn business with a free service… what did you think was going on?
Facebook has confirmed what many of us have known for years: Cambridge Analytica was far from the only organization engaging in the wholesale hoarding of netizens' personal data via the social network.
The Silicon Valley giant told America's financial watchdog, the SEC, on Thursday that it
will probably reveal additional data-harvesting operations
as it continues probing how outside developers accessed its website and what information they siphoned off in bulk.
Don't forget, Facebook was more than happy (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/06/app_economy_needs_your_data/) to let third-party apps and tools connect to its services and extract people's personal information, provided punters clicked through user agreements they never had time to read.
Now after years of letting companies chug from its firehose,
Facebook is shocked – shocked (https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/04/facebook_zuckerberg_says_sorry/) – to discover that shady outfits were amassing folks' info via these APIs.
Cambridge Anal. got hold of 87 million people's profile records via a quiz app that poked around on the social network.
Many other games and distractions will have done similar.
"As a result of these efforts we anticipate that
we will discover and announce additional incidents of misuse of user data or other undesirable activity by third parties.
We may also be notified of such incidents or activity via the media or other third parties," Facebook officials told the SEC.
"Such incidents and activities may include
the use of user data in a manner inconsistent with our terms or policies,
the existence of false or undesirable user accounts,
election interference,
improper ad purchases,
activities that threaten people’s safety on- or offline, or
instances of spamming, scraping, or spreading misinformation."
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/04/27/facebook_sec_privacy_lapses/
All Zuck has to do is say he's sorry, which he has done several times from the first days of his abusing users at Harvard.
boutons_deux
04-28-2018, 02:55 PM
Facebook’s dark ads problem is systemic
Facebook’s (https://www.crunchbase.com/organization/facebook/) admission to the UK parliament this week that it had unearthed unquantified thousands of dark fake ads
after investigating fakes bearing the face and name of well-known consumer advice personality, Martin Lewis (https://blog.moneysavingexpert.com/2018/04/martin-lewis-to-sue-facebook/?_ga=2.114938309.395110164.1524841229-977416281.1524473826),
underscores the massive challenge for its platform on this front.
Lewis is suing the company for defamation (https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/23/facebook-hit-with-defamation-lawsuit-over-fake-ads/) over its failure to stop bogus ads besmirching his reputation with their associated scams.
Lewis decided to file his campaigning lawsuit after reporting 50 fake ads himself,
having been alerted to the scale of the problem by consumers contacting him to ask if the ads were genuine or not.
But the revelation that there were in fact associated
“thousands” of fake ads being run on Facebook
as a clickdriver for fraud shows the company needs to change its entire system, he has now argued.
https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/28/facebooks-dark-ads-problem-is-systemic/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29 (https://techcrunch.com/2018/04/28/facebooks-dark-ads-problem-is-systemic/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Techcrunch+%28TechCrunch%29)
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 07:34 PM
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:rollin
djohn2oo8
05-15-2018, 08:04 PM
All US persons involved = Bannon, Kushner
Winehole23
06-04-2018, 12:32 PM
security settings theater:
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/06/03/technology/facebook-device-partners-users-friends-data.html
Winehole23
09-10-2021, 12:02 PM
Facebook still fighting discovery
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So you give all your personal information to a profit driven social media company and they capitalize on it? Shocking.
Winehole23
09-10-2021, 12:08 PM
So you give all your personal information to a profit driven social media company and they capitalize on it? Shocking.who said it's shocking?
nothing wrong with legal culpability for bad actors, imo.
Winehole23
12-27-2025, 09:42 PM
lawsuit settled
Zuckerberg settles $8 billion lawsuit over Cambridge Analytica scandal, avoids testifying
Americas
Mark Zuckerberg and current and former Meta executives agreed on Thursday to settle a $8 billion shareholder lawsuit alleging the company’s directors failed to prevent billions of dollars in fines and legal costs stemming from repeated Facebook user privacy violations. The Federal Trade Commission in 2019 fined Facebook $5 billion in the wake of the Cambridge Analytica data harvesting scandal.
The parties did not disclose details of the settlement and defense lawyers did not address the judge, Kathaleen McCormick of the Delaware Court of Chancery. McCormick adjourned the trial just as it was to enter its second day and she congratulated the parties.
The plaintiffs' lawyer, Sam Closic, said the agreement just came together quickly. Billionaire venture capitalist Marc Andreessen, who is a defendant in the trial and a Meta director, was scheduled to testify on Thursday.
Shareholders of Meta (https://www.france24.com/en/tag/meta/) sued Zuckerberg, Andreessen and other former company officials including former Chief Operating Officer Sheryl Sandberg in hopes of holding them liable for billions of dollars in fines and legal costs the company paid in recent years.
The Federal Trade Commission fined Facebook $5 billion in 2019 (https://www.france24.com/en/20190724-facebook-pay-record-fine-privacy-violations-ftc) after finding that it failed to comply with a 2012 agreement with the regulator to protect users' data.
The shareholders wanted the 11 defendants to use their personal wealth to reimburse the company. The defendants denied the allegations, which they called "extreme claims". Facebook (https://www.france24.com/en/tag/facebook/) changed its name to Meta in 2021. The company was not a defendant.
The company declined to comment. A lawyer for the defendants did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
https://www.france24.com/en/americas/20250717-zuckerberg-settles-8-billion-lawsuit-over-cambridge-analytica-scandal-avoids-testifying
Winehole23
12-28-2025, 07:30 AM
$190M settlement
it's shareholder derivative, so the money goes to Meta
https://www.reuters.com/world/zuckerberg-meta-directors-agree-190-million-settlement-shareholder-privacy-case-2025-11-20/
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