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CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 02:25 PM
Damn. Crazy stuff coming out. Totally scammed and weaponized facebook.

Pavlov
03-18-2018, 03:24 PM
Not that my information's all that valuable, but I never trusted those stupid fb surveys.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 03:28 PM
Not that my information's all that valuable, but I never trusted those stupid fb surveys.
Same here.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 03:38 PM
Is that not Robert Mercer's company?

Or just associated with his name?

Pavlov
03-18-2018, 04:01 PM
Is that not Robert Mercer's company?

Or just associated with his name?Mercer is a funder.

And you didn't even have to take the survey to get your fb data scraped -- if your friend took it, you're in CA's database.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 09:02 PM
Mercer is a funder.

And you didn't even have to take the survey to get your fb data scraped -- if your friend took it, you're in CA's database.

Thats pretty damn devious. Russian/American wrote the program. I surprised this has not blown up. So if you have a friend responding to those silly things it knows you and your tendencies. That's fairly illegal. But smart. I don't know exactly how I would have been classified. Clinton was a hold-my-nose default vote. Definitely did not express enough white pride... Didn't matter for a Texas survey though.

djohn2oo8
03-18-2018, 09:07 PM
Thats pretty damn devious. Russian/American wrote the program. I surprised this has not blown up. So if you have a friend responding to those silly things it knows you and your tendencies. That's fairly illegal. But smart. I don't know exactly how I would have been classified. Clinton was a hold-my-nose default vote. Definitely did not express enough white pride... Didn't matter for a Texas survey though.

Because only bits and pieces have come out about this. It gets alot deeper and you will be shocked at some of this shit.

djohn2oo8
03-18-2018, 09:08 PM
And Zuckerfucker has lied multiple times about knowing.

Pavlov
03-18-2018, 09:10 PM
And Zuckerfucker has lied multiple times about knowing.It's bullshit because he wants to project unfailing competence and omnipotence regarding social media. Just admit shit happened you didn't intend and do something about it. It's going to happen again.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 09:15 PM
Gotta respect their balls. Its nothing facebook, google, and microsoft dont do all the time. Hell, all I have to do is google a product and next thing there are ads for that shit everywhere I look.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 09:17 PM
It's bullshit because he wants to project unfailing competence and omnipotence regarding social media. Just admit shit happened you didn't intend and do something about it. It's going to happen again.

Geek pride.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 09:20 PM
Gotta respect their balls. Its nothing facebook, google, and microsoft dont do all the time. Hell, all I have to do is google a product and next thing there are ads for that shit everywhere I look.

I get fishing lure ads and Ski stuff... Those surveys tell you they retain the right to use your info, but not your friends... It's quite smart, but illegal.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 09:22 PM
Its pretty funny actually. I search some weird shit for work. Next thing I have ads for exotic mechanical shit showing on my facebook page.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 09:25 PM
Bought cable last week to redo the boat lift and facebook today has cable/clamp/accessory ads.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 09:41 PM
Bought cable last week to redo the boat lift and facebook today has cable/clamp/accessory ads.

http://i68.tinypic.com/29bm6f.jpg

Yep, going to get snow and thinking of heading out; spring breakers gone. Outbrain got me while reading Politico just now.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 09:46 PM
Crested Butte rocks. Had a condo there for ten years. Was doing hike up double diamond shit there before my knees blew out.

Pavlov
03-18-2018, 09:53 PM
Well that's just kind of regular cookie activity -- can be a little jarring sometimes but it's nothing like the CA stuff.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 09:54 PM
Crested Butte rocks. Had a condo there for ten years. Was doing hike up double diamond shit there before my knees blew out.

Holy shit...

That place is fantastic!
The food in the city down in the valley, not Mount Crested Butte, just Crested Butte, is fantastic. I love that place. You sold well, that place is sooo expensive. That's the place these "kids" asked me where they get heroin on the Paradise lift when they heard me and a friend talking about bio molecules and nervous system stuff. "Don't know and No"

Too bad about your knees, but you had to have had a great 10 years. Damn...

pgardn
03-18-2018, 09:55 PM
Well that's just kind of regular cookie activity -- can be a little jarring sometimes but it's nothing like the CA stuff.

Definitely.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 10:03 PM
Holy shit...

That place is fantastic!
The food in the city down in the valley, not Mount Crested Butte, just Crested Butte, is fantastic. I love that place. You sold well, that place is sooo expensive. That's the place these "kids" asked me where they get heroin on the Paradise lift when they heard me and a friend talking about bio molecules and nervous system stuff. "Don't know and No"

Too bad about your knees, but you had to have had a great 10 years. Damn...
Aw hell. Had a great run skiing. Was storming Taos before getting the condo at Crested Butte. Summer was just as much fun as winter with fly fishing and 4 wheeling in the mountains. Skiing has really changed with the shorter fatter skis today. I was running 220s on double diamonds back then. You just turned in the air.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 10:10 PM
Aw hell. Had a great run skiing. Was storming Taos before getting the condo at Crested Butte. Summer was just as much fun as winter with fly fishing and 4 wheeling in the mountains. Skiing has really changed sith tbe shorter fatter skis today. I was running 220s on double diamonds back then. You just turned in the air.

I only go twice a year. Never ever going on double Diamonds. I was always asking about the fishing. I tried fly fishing in Buena Vista with a guide but was not very good. I just love all the walking and hiking and just looking for fish, if I had grown up in those colder streams I would have it down. I really just do our coast the best in a kayak.

Man. 10 years... Of skiing and fishing in that wonderful place... You should be very happy.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 10:14 PM
Idle Spur on Elk Avenue was my go to. First brew pub I had ever seen. Passin doobies at the bar was a common occurrence.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 10:21 PM
Idle Spur on Elk Avenue was my go to. First brew pub I had ever seen. Passin doobies at the bar was a common occurrence.

Oh the smell is in the air. Even though that place is family friendly, it's also ski bum friendly. I have a friend who used to help plan weddings there, lived there. She would complain about not finding the right type of guy. I would say, go figure... and... meet one of those guys that owns a home or condo, they gotta work some.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 10:21 PM
I only go twice a year. Never ever going on double Diamonds. I was always asking about the fishing. I tried fly fishing in Buena Vista with a guide but was not very good. I just love all the walking and hiking and just looking for fish, if I had grown up in those colder streams I would have it down. I really just do our coast the best in a kayak.

Man. 10 years... Of skiing and fishing in that wonderful place... You should be very happy.
Below the Taylor reservoir was some of the most frustrating and,challenging fly fishing for big trout I have ever done. Using freaking #28 shrimp nymphs and trying to get those 3' long rainbows to bite in that crystal clear water was maddening.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 10:29 PM
Below the Taylor reservoir was some of the most frustrating and,challenging fly fishing for big trout I have ever done. Using freaking #28 shrimp nymphs and trying to get those 3' long rainbows to bite in that crystal clear water was maddening.

I probably could not get the spring hungry fish to even take a look I'm so bad at presentation. Hell I have good eyes and could barely see those small nymph fly thingies I was told to try. I don't have the dexterity for that level of fiddling. Did your wear magnifying glasses or what... Those tippets tapering like that was a shocking realization for me. I never knew all that stuff. I broke more than a few lines with that tapering down to hair thin.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 10:31 PM
After CB I skied Utah some tree skiing in Deer Valley. Last pair of skis I bought were K2 4s as they were just starting to widen the shovels on the skis. Damn those were some high speed cruisers. They would chatter like a motherfucker smoking the bumps but would still hold the edge and track.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 10:36 PM
After CB I skied Utah some tree skiing. Last pair of skis I bought were K2 4s as they were just starting to widen the shovels on the skis. Damn those were some high speed cruisers.

I think they refer to the first technical break through as parabolic skiis? My father said he skied on fence panels. I just rent. Maybe I should think about buying... Sometimes I gotta leave quick and it might be a pain as luggage.

KenMcCoy
03-18-2018, 10:40 PM
We're getting into 1984 territory here...FB/social media the all knowing Big Brother cleansing/filtering news and posts, even feeding us feel good stories like kitten memes.

DMX7
03-18-2018, 10:42 PM
Happy to say I don’t Facebook.

DMC
03-18-2018, 10:43 PM
We're getting into 1984 territory here...FB/social media the all knowing Big Brother cleansing/filtering news and posts, even feeding us feel good stories like kitten memes.

They don't need to feed it. People spend all their money and time seeking it. They just provide it.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 10:48 PM
We're getting into 1984 territory here...FB/social media the all knowing Big Brother cleansing/filtering news and posts, even feeding us feel good stories like kitten memes.

Cameras everywhere.

They have caught a whole lotta crooks/thugs/ terrorist cells in the UK with those things. Use of info is important. The NSA has taught us about the lines we must draw.

CosmicCowboy
03-18-2018, 10:50 PM
I think they refer to the first technical break through as parabolic skiis? My father said he skied on fence panels. I just rent. Maybe I should think about buying... Sometimes I gotta leave quick and it might be a pain as luggage.
Yeah, the skis i learned on were stiff as hell. Long and skinny. First pair I owned were 220cm Head 360s. Broke one going mach 2 when I centered two moguls at steamboat. Broke the metal lamination and it looked like a horseshoe. Fuck, that was before ski brakes and I was bouncing down the mountain with broken skis tied to me with ski leashes. It was freaking ugly. Looked like a yard sale as all my shit goggles gloves poles etc. Were scattered all over the mountain.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 10:50 PM
Djohn could be back into this thread in a big way.

pgardn
03-18-2018, 10:56 PM
Yeah, the skis i learned on were stiff as hell. Long and skinny. First pair I owned were 220cm Head 360s. Broke one going mach 2 when I centered two moguls at steamboat. Broke the meyal lamination and it looked like a horseshoe. Fuck, that was before ski brakes and I was bouncing down the mountain with broken skis tied to me with ski leashes. It was freaking ugly. Looked like a yard sale as all my shit goggles gloves poles etc. Were scattered all over the mountain.

Oh yeah.

The famous runaway skis if a leash came off.
Having big pieces of fiberglass with some metal dancing all around your head does seem a bit scary.

I guess the boots have gotten better as well. The bindings and such.
Snowboarding looks super difficult. I see people sitting everywhere learning those things.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 09:29 AM
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djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 11:45 AM
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boutons_deux
03-19-2018, 11:47 AM
CA/Lafarge helped Pootin divide UK from europe, brexit

Russians are too fucking smart for the West

KenMcCoy
03-19-2018, 12:49 PM
CA/Lafarge helped Pootin divide UK from europe, brexit

Russians are too fucking smart for the West

At least the US will be able to fight back once Russia takes over our Gov't. Feel bad for UK...

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 02:07 PM
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dabom
03-19-2018, 02:18 PM
Boom. :lol

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 02:34 PM
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Reck
03-19-2018, 02:36 PM
These fuckwits are in deep shit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpbeOCKZFfQ

dabom
03-19-2018, 02:38 PM
These fuckwits are in deep shit.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpbeOCKZFfQ

On the opposite side of the crosshairs. :lol

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 02:39 PM
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Trill Clinton
03-19-2018, 02:40 PM
Because only bits and pieces have come out about this. It gets alot deeper and you will be shocked at some of this shit.

You're a savant

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 02:44 PM
You're a savant

:tu

Blake
03-19-2018, 02:54 PM
Its pretty funny actually. I search some weird shit for work. Next thing I have ads for exotic mechanical shit showing on my facebook page.

Right. ....weird shit "for work"

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 02:56 PM
Prepare for four things:

1) THE MOTHER OF ALL GOALPOST MOVES.

2) The most batshit crazy Hillary baby-eating conspiracy theories to be amplified.

3) Attempted Saturday night massacre.

4) Dennison denial tweets.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 03:39 PM
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Pavlov
03-19-2018, 05:28 PM
Channel 4's reporting on CA is pretty goddam awesome. The undercover bit plus the Chris Wylie whistleblowing should make everyone think twice about the role of social media.

zb6-xz-geH4

Reck
03-19-2018, 05:30 PM
Channel 4's reporting on CA is pretty goddam awesome. The undercover bit plus the Chris Wylie whistleblowing should make everyone think twice about the role of social media. zb6-xz-geH4 Example #1 Chris.

monosylab1k
03-19-2018, 05:31 PM
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Podestas about to go DOWN!

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 05:35 PM
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TSA
03-19-2018, 05:55 PM
Zuck is fucked

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djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 06:00 PM
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djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 06:01 PM
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Reck
03-19-2018, 06:06 PM
Zuck is fucked 975564499297226752 TSA projecting.

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 06:07 PM
TSA projecting.It's the best he can do at the moment. He's awaiting further instructions.

Should be delivered soon.

https://media.giphy.com/media/l2SqhP9stY5sVS8dq/giphy.gif

TSA
03-19-2018, 06:17 PM
Zuck is fucked

975564499297226752

Yup, Zuck is fucked.

Obama Staffer: Facebook Knew Presidential Campaign Improperly Seized Data, Looked the Other Way

Carol Davidsen, former director of Obama for America’s Integration and Media Analytics, reveals the manner the Democratic presidential campaign was freely given access. Furthermore, she openly claims that Facebook gave the Obama campaigners a pass because of their political affiliation.

http://amp.dailycaller.com/2018/03/19/facebook-trump-obama-cambridge-data/

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 06:19 PM
:lol TSA trying his best to *ding* this thread after the head of CA gets caught on tape.

Reck
03-19-2018, 06:23 PM
:lol TSA trying his best to *ding* this thread after the head of CA gets caught on tape. What massive coincidence! Cambridge Analytica gets caught with their pants down and miraculously an article about Obama doing the dirty is out on some far right site that TSA catches wind of. What odds. :lol

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 06:29 PM
:cryBut 2012!:cry

TSA
03-19-2018, 06:31 PM
What massive coincidence! Cambridge Analytica gets caught with their pants down and miraculously an article about Obama doing the dirty is out on some far right site that TSA catches wind of. What odds. :lol

Obama’s own staffer came out and said Facebook allowed them to improperly access the data. I posted a link to her twitter thread where she explains it. Was the former Obama staffer forced by some far right site to post on her personal twitter account?

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/feb/17/obama-digital-data-machine-facebook-election?__twitter_impression=true

Facebook is fucked and Trump is still and will still be your President.

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 06:33 PM
Obama’s own staffer came out and said Facebook allowed them to improperly access the data. I posted a link to her twitter thread where she explains it. Was the former Obama staffer forced by some far right site to post on her personal twitter account?

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/feb/17/obama-digital-data-machine-facebook-election?__twitter_impression=true

Facebook is fucked and Trump is still and will still be your President.How are you saying Facebook is fucked?

Be specific.

And lol no comment on CA whatsoever.

TSA
03-19-2018, 06:34 PM
:cryBut 2012!:cry

Data mining is data mining no matter which side is doing it. I said from the get go that this hurts Facebook and not Trump. Thinking this takes down Trump is yet another one of your sides ridiculous circle jerks that will end in blue balls once again.

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 06:35 PM
Data mining is data mining no matter which side is doing it. I said from the get go that this hurts Facebook and not Trump. Thinking this takes down Trump is yet another one of your sides ridiculous circle jerks that will end in blue balls once again.How are you saying Facebook is fucked?

Be specific.

And lol no comment on CA whatsoever.

Straw man to boot!

DMX7
03-19-2018, 06:35 PM
:wow Trump’s “victory” is more tainted than ever.

TSA
03-19-2018, 06:36 PM
How are you saying Facebook is fucked?

Be specific.

And lol no comment on CA whatsoever.

Facebook Inc. Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg saw his net worth decline by about $5 billion Monday, but it could have been worse.

CosmicCowboy
03-19-2018, 06:36 PM
The funny thing is as distasteful as the mining was its not clear that any laws were broken.

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 06:36 PM
Facebook Inc. Chief Executive Mark Zuckerberg saw his net worth decline by about $5 billion Monday, but it could have been worse.That's it?

The stock goes down one day?

:lol

Reck
03-19-2018, 06:37 PM
Obama’s own staffer came out and said Facebook allowed them to improperly access the data. I posted a link to her twitter thread where she explains it. Was the former Obama staffer forced by some far right site to post on her personal twitter account?

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/feb/17/obama-digital-data-machine-facebook-election?__twitter_impression=true

Facebook is fucked and Trump is still and will still be your President.


Data mining is data mining no matter which side is doing it. I said from the get go that this hurts Facebook and not Trump. Thinking this takes down Trump is yet another one of your sides ridiculous circle jerks that will end in blue balls once again.

LOL

Your posts contradict each other.

Obama cant be "fucked" while Trump would be unhurt by this.

At the very least (And this is going with your theory) they both fucked up and will both pay the price for it. Although I dont know how you get Obama since he's already done presidenting. Trump though...lol

Data mining is data mining no matter what. :lol

TSA
03-19-2018, 06:37 PM
How are you saying Facebook is fucked?

Be specific.

And lol no comment on CA whatsoever.

Straw man to boot!

In back to back elections Facebook allowed its users private data to be shared with third parties.

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 06:38 PM
The funny thing is as distasteful as the mining was its not clear that any laws were broken.There appears to be more to it than the mining in CA's case.

If you haven't seen the Ch 4 videos, I recommend you do.

Spurminator
03-19-2018, 06:38 PM
Zuck is fucked

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:lol This article describes standard Facebook advertising. The Obama Campaign didn't use "friend" information any differently than Hamburger Helper uses it to send you ads.

People complained about it back then too but it's not illegal and people kept using Facebook and giving "apps" permission to view their friend list, birthday, etc.

TSA
03-19-2018, 06:39 PM
LOL

Your posts contradict each other.

Obama cant be "fucked" while Trump would be unhurt by this.

At the very least (And this is going with your theory) they both fucked up and will both pay the price for it. Although I dont know how you get Obama since he's already done presidenting. Trump though...lol

Data mining is data mining no matter what. :lol

I never said Obama was fucked. What part of Facebook is fucked are you having trouble comprehending?

CosmicCowboy
03-19-2018, 06:41 PM
That's it?

The stock goes down one day?

:lol

Actually chump, the EU is looking at facebook very hard. Big government is getting uneasy with facebooks harvesting and using the data on individuals.

TSA
03-19-2018, 06:43 PM
:lol This article describes standard Facebook advertising. The Obama Campaign didn't use "friend" information any differently than Hamburger Helper uses it to send you ads.

People complained about it back then too but it's not illegal and people kept using Facebook and giving "apps" permission to view their friend list, birthday, etc.

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Spurminator
03-19-2018, 06:44 PM
:lol This article describes standard Facebook advertising. The Obama Campaign didn't use "friend" information any differently than Hamburger Helper uses it to send you ads.

People complained about it back then too but it's not illegal and people kept using Facebook and giving "apps" permission to view their friend list, birthday, etc.

You know when you see an ad for Little Debbie, and above the ad it lists two or three of your friends like "like" Little Debbie? That's this.

Hell you don't even need to give apps permission to access your friends list anymore, advertisers can target you and your friends on Facebook simply based on your browsing behavior. It's honestly not all that sketchy, unless that data gets into the hands of people who can identify you individually.

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 06:44 PM
Actually chump, the EU is looking at facebook very hard. Big government is getting uneasy with facebooks harvesting and using the data on individuals.Yeah, I think regulation there and here is inevitable and really always was. People are just now starting to realize what they are giving away with social media and smart devices. FB was making hay while the sun was shining. I'm sure they have plans for most contingencies.

Reck
03-19-2018, 06:46 PM
I never said Obama was fucked. What part of Facebook is fucked are you having trouble comprehending?

You're right. I read it differently.

Still, Trump or at the very least Kushner, Bannon and Manafort all knew what Analytica was doing and didn't do anything to stop it. You might want to add Trump to your fucked list. Regardless if he knew or not.

Ultimately he has to take responsibility for how his own campaign was ran.

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 06:51 PM
I know TSA refuses to watch the videos, but imagine the Trump campaign officials getting that same spiel from Nix.

Not that they didn't already know -- look who their former VP is.

Spurminator
03-19-2018, 06:54 PM
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That sounds like a recruitment pitch. "We're big Obama fans, come work for us!" And even if it's not, Facebook is a private company who is free to disable certain components of its platform at any time for any reason. It is constantly reacting, changing and optimizing to how people are using, and potentially abusing, their platform. It is not inherently wrong (and certainly not illegal) for them to decide not to prevent the campaign from using data in this way.

Most importantly, the data in the Time article was accessed through Facebook with users' permission to do so. That's the biggest fundamental difference between this and CA. Oh, and they accessed the data by misleading about their intentions. Oh, and then they lied about having it or using it.

boutons_deux
03-19-2018, 06:57 PM
Campaign digitial director Jared had RNC demographic data which he/Bannon/Manafort probably gave to CA.

CA put it all together gave it of Pootin. The cyber army attack was engaged.

Spurminator
03-19-2018, 07:00 PM
Honestly, TSA, if you weren't so hopelessly committed to soldiering for Donald Trump at every sign of potential scandal, this would be a dream conspiracy for you.

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 07:02 PM
Honestly, TSA, if you weren't so hopelessly committed to soldiering for Donald Trump at every sign of potential scandal, this would be a dream conspiracy for you.Not enough baby eating.

Not yet, anyway.

DMX7
03-19-2018, 07:10 PM
Actually chump, the EU is looking at facebook very hard. Big government is getting uneasy with facebooks harvesting and using the data on individuals.

The EU may do something but I doubt our government will do much.

boutons_deux
03-19-2018, 07:10 PM
Cambridge Analytica's Ad Targeting Is the Reason Facebook Exists

Thousands of third party apps were designed solely to obtain and sell your data. It's no surprise that the data ended up being used again on Facebook, one of the biggest advertising platforms on Earth.

I have associated my account with 100 separate third party apps. Besides common ones like Spotify, Venmo, and Uber, I have given access to my account to apps

According to these settings, however, lots of these apps still have access to the same information Cambridge Analytica used to target Facebook users with political ads that helped Donald Trump win (https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mg9vvn/how-our-likes-helped-trump-win) the 2016 presidential election.

Typing Maniac—a game I vaguely remember from college—has access to my public profile, my friend list, my relationship status, my “relationship interests,” my birthday, my work history, my status updates, my education history, my events, my hometown, my current city, photos I’m tagged in and that I’ve uploaded, my religious and political views, my videos, my website, my personal description, and my “likes.”

“Cambridge Analytica used an information extraction technique that was well-known to technologists for years.

The implications of this debacle is about crystallizing the threat about how dangerous the information ecosystem is.”

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/vbxgzb/cambridge-analytica-facebook-ad-targeting-third-party-apps?utm_campaign=Motherboard+Premium+Newsletter+-+319&utm_content=Motherboard+Premium+Newsletter+-+319+CID_c14f0fe92bfc262123d7e48a52a5ffce&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Campaign+Monitor&utm_term=What+Cambridge+Analytica+Did+Is+Exactly+W hat+Facebook+Is+Designed+For

FB's childish dreamer develpers were sorta like Internet protocols in the early days, when the original developers assumed good faith on the tiny number of users, and were struggling just to get protocols to work, so almost no security was built in, and security had to be hacked in over the next 30+ years, and they are still working on it.

FB dreamers came along much later and should have known, and very certainly did know, how nasty a place Internet is, but naively, stupidly assumed good faith.

The user data is now "out of the barn" and no assurances that CA or anybody else will destroy it will not be believed. Pootin's cyber army sure admit they even have CA's data. And CA is run by a Russian, so you know there's no good faith innocence there, just the opposite.

I hope billionaire Cruz/Trash fellator Mercer gets implicated in the CA debacle.

The Congressional Repugs are REFUSING to help the states upgrade, secure, harden their voting systems, proving Repugs are quite happy with outdated, hackable voting systems amenable to Repugs' own counting fraud.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 07:23 PM
Pretty sure I warned TSA about troll farms and Facebook being complicit in alot of this shit.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 07:47 PM
Also. Funny that TSA has yet to watch the video.

CosmicCowboy
03-19-2018, 07:49 PM
Oh yeah.

The famous runaway skis if a leash came off.
Having big pieces of fiberglass with some metal dancing all around your head does seem a bit scary.

I guess the boots have gotten better as well. The bindings and such.
Snowboarding looks super difficult. I see people sitting everywhere learning those things.
Snowboarding wasnt that hard since I had surfed and skateboarded. I got Ok at it but preferred bashing blacks on skis. Back then they didnt have the half pipes and cool shit for the boarders.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 07:56 PM
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Reck
03-19-2018, 08:14 PM
Also. Funny that TSA has yet to watch the video.

Man, TSA disappeared after post 80 on this thread. I get it though, as a Trumpie, it’s hard to come to terms with him being complicit and knowing how illegitimate his presidency is.

Pavlov
03-19-2018, 08:21 PM
Man, TSA disappeared after post 80 on this thread. I get it though, as a Trumpie, it’s hard to come to terms with him being complicit and knowing how illegitimate his presidency is.He just needs time for his superiors to tell him what to post.

Goalposts will be moved.

Conspiracies will be pimped.

Distractions will be attempted.

djohn2oo8
03-19-2018, 08:28 PM
He just needs time for his superiors to tell him what to post.

Goalposts will be moved.

Conspiracies will be pimped.

Distractions will be attempted.

Susan Rice will still be free.

DPG21920
03-19-2018, 09:15 PM
Are people really surprised or mad about this? This is politics. It’s been dirty for a long time, we are just in the modern age. But dirty smear type campaigns have always existed as well as deception and lies.

boutons_deux
03-19-2018, 09:22 PM
Stamos quits FB as other Execs dont want to be open about Russian abuse of FB

Trill Clinton
03-19-2018, 10:15 PM
Are people really surprised or mad about this? This is politics. It’s been dirty for a long time, we are just in the modern age. But dirty smear type campaigns have always existed as well as deception and lies.

i'm mad about it. i don't remember an u.s election having foreign influence like this before. do you?

DPG21920
03-19-2018, 11:10 PM
i'm mad about it. i don't remember an u.s election having foreign influence like this before. do you?

I would say in this day and age, the likelihood of finding out is greater. I can’t say personally that I specifically know of a foreign interference like the one that appears to have occurred here, but I would not at all be surprised to find this common place.

Also, whether foreign or domestic, this type of meddling occurs and has pissed me off for a long time. I’m just saying I don’t get the outrage here vs historically. Some people may take more issue with it being foreign based, but I’m pretty sure that happens all the time and I also think it’s just as bad domestically (personally).

I mean, look at what the DEMS did to Bernie very openly. There was only a small amount of outrage there and that was completely rigged to get Hilary nominated.

monosylab1k
03-19-2018, 11:11 PM
Are people really surprised or mad about this? This is politics. It’s been dirty for a long time, we are just in the modern age. But dirty smear type campaigns have always existed as well as deception and lies.

Cheating’s been in football since always but people sure get salty when the Patriots do it.

DPG21920
03-19-2018, 11:11 PM
Cheating’s been in football since always but people sure get salty when the Patriots do it.

:lol

Spurtacular
03-19-2018, 11:27 PM
Cheating’s been in football since always but people sure get salty when the Patriots do it.

It tarnishes their legacy, tbh. Only homers / bandwagoners don't see that.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 12:01 AM
Are people really surprised or mad about this? This is politics. It’s been dirty for a long time, we are just in the modern age. But dirty smear type campaigns have always existed as well as deception and lies.
Americans aiding a hostile foreign power. People are dying behind this. This goes beyond politics. This whole thing with CA has much more that will come out.

And they didn't just meddle. They interfered.

monosylab1k
03-20-2018, 12:08 AM
It tarnishes their legacy, tbh. Only homers / bandwagoners don't see that.

I agree, Trump’s legacy is tarnished by this.

Spurtacular
03-20-2018, 12:21 AM
I agree, Trump’s legacy is tarnished by this.

We were talking about the Pats. But if you want to engage in disassociative behavior, then that's your deal.

monosylab1k
03-20-2018, 01:10 AM
We were talking about the Pats. But if you want to engage in disassociative behavior, then that's your deal.


Only homers / bandwagoners don't see that.

Indeed.

boutons_deux
03-20-2018, 06:14 AM
Facebook security head Alex Stamos is reportedly leaving the company

Facebook security chief Alex Stamos is reportedly leaving the company after clashing with other members of its leadership over

whether Facebook should be more proactive in handling its role in disseminating falsehoods.

The Times says Stamos had been a forceful advocate for investigating and revealing the company’s role in Russian meddling on the platform

“to the consternation” of executives such as COO Sheryl Sandberg.

Political leaders in the UK and the US have expressed outrage (http://time.com/5204920/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-cambridge-analytica/) over how Cambridge Analytica was able to harvest data from 50 million Facebook users.

US senator Ron Wyden sent a letter (https://www.wyden.senate.gov/news/press-releases/wyden-questions-facebook-on-misuse-of-users-private-information) to Zuckerberg today (March 19) seeking information about Facebook’s policies on sharing user data with third parties. Wyden set a deadline of April 13.

https://qz.com/1232850/facebook-chief-security-officer-alex-stamos-is-reportedly-leaving-the-company/?mc_cid=2c3a243e45&mc_eid=47e367557b

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 07:34 AM
976031055206584322

pgardn
03-20-2018, 08:25 AM
Are people really surprised or mad about this? This is politics. It’s been dirty for a long time, we are just in the modern age. But dirty smear type campaigns have always existed as well as deception and lies.

Surprised ... well yeah and interested.

Anytime the methodology and possibly connections are mentioned so timely with other things going on its news. This is sneaky stuff. Facebook got used in a very clever way. I applaud the OP bringing it up. Especially Crested Butte. People have learned some very interesting new things about Facebook. At least I have from the cleverness standpoint.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 08:43 AM
976087735126634497

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 08:43 AM
976088859791544320

KenMcCoy
03-20-2018, 09:25 AM
I haven't read everything out there about CA, but did the information gathering break any US laws?

I hope so. Really crappy if not.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 09:31 AM
I haven't read everything out there about CA, but did the information gathering break any US laws?

I hope so. Really crappy if not.

Yes.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 09:32 AM
976063303536357376

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 09:36 AM
976100208747663361

TSA
03-20-2018, 09:57 AM
Yes.

Besides violating Facebook's terms of service what actual laws were broken? Be specific.

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:01 AM
That's it?

The stock goes down one day?

:lol

:lol

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:03 AM
:lolTwo days?

The stock goes down for several days?

You're not really predicting anything anymore, TSA.

:lol

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:06 AM
976100208747663361

Doesn't appear Cambridge Analytica violated any laws and if anyone broke the law it was Facebook.

Blake
03-20-2018, 10:08 AM
Doesn't appear Cambridge Analytica violated any laws and if anyone broke the law it was Facebook.

Yeah CA seem like they're great guys in that undercover video

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:10 AM
Yeah CA seem like they're great guys in that undercover video

What law did CA break during the election?

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:12 AM
Doesn't appear Cambridge Analytica violated any laws and if anyone broke the law it was Facebook.What law did FB break?

BTW, your goalpost move was predicted.

:lol TSA

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:13 AM
Now TSA is ignoring bribery and entrapment. :lol

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:14 AM
Now TSA is ignoring bribery and entrapment. :lolHe still hasn't watched any of the Ch 4 videos. It's pure denial at this point.

Reck
03-20-2018, 10:14 AM
Besides violating Facebook's terms of service what actual laws were broken? Be specific.

I mean, TSA is right here, Djohn.

It's not yet clear to what extent the breach is. In the coming days and weeks it should be clear how and what the damage really is. I'm inclined to think this company along with FB are in some legal trouble.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:14 AM
What law did CA break during the election?
CA used stolen information, to harvest propaganda. Not mention bribery and entrapment.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:15 AM
I mean, TSA is right here, Djohn.

It's not yet clear to what extent the breach is. In the coming days and weeks it should be clear how and what the damage really is. I'm inclined to think this company along with FB are in some legal trouble.
No he is not. That's why the UK is raiding their office because they know the extent.

Reck
03-20-2018, 10:16 AM
Doesn't appear Cambridge Analytica violated any laws and if anyone broke the law it was Facebook.

Now let me disagree with you. :lol

Again, you cant blame Facebook for allowing Cambridge Analytica to get in and do what they do and not say they themselves didn't break any laws and aren't in trouble. It takes two to tango.

If I rob a bank and you're with me, you're an accomplice.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:17 AM
:lmao
976072695669501955

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:18 AM
BTW, CA lied about working with any Russians, when it was recently made public they were working with Russians to target American voters. And it will become public what role Bannon, Kushner and Manafort played in all this and how deep this rabbit hole goes. I don't need to expand any further.

Reck
03-20-2018, 10:18 AM
Cant wait for the video where they admit they helped Trump win the election. They said they would release that one today.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:21 AM
:lmao
976072695669501955
:lmao

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:22 AM
I mean, TSA is right here, Djohn.

It's not yet clear to what extent the breach is. In the coming days and weeks it should be clear how and what the damage really is. I'm inclined to think this company along with FB are in some legal trouble.

Facebook could be paying fines for violating the consent decree but I don't see any legal trouble for CA's work during the election.

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:24 AM
Now let me disagree with you. :lol

Again, you cant blame Facebook for allowing Cambridge Analytica to get in and do what they do and not say they themselves didn't break any laws and aren't in trouble. It takes two to tango.

If I rob a bank and you're with me, you're an accomplice.

That is a terrible analogy :lol

Facebook's terms of service aren't laws.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:25 AM
Look at the video TSA.

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:25 AM
In short, according to the Times’ reporting, which is borne out by many other reports of the time, the Obama campaign engaged in nearly identical activity to what Cambridge Analytica is claimed to have done: they took a set of users who willingly contributed their data to a cause and quietly mined their friend lists, downloading immense volumes of private material from unwitting individuals that never authorized, let alone had any idea, that a political campaign was harvesting their information from Facebook simply because a person they were connected with had given the organization permission to harvest their information.

In Obama’s case, the original contributors at least explicitly knew they were contributing to a campaign effort, even if their millions of unwitting friends had no idea their private information was being harvested to attempt to sway their voting behavior. In Cambridge Analytica’s case, users knew only that they were contributing to an academic research project, but the line between academia and the corporate world is ever more blurred in the data world and it is routine for academic institutions to engage in corporate-supported research using data owned by the institution in the support of commercial agendas. Indeed, the claims that Facebook data was collected for academic research and then made available to a commercial enterprise are hardly unsurprising for anyone familiar with the processes and procedures at most top US research universities, especially their corporate funded research and their licensing and commercialization programs.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2018/03/19/why-are-we-only-now-talking-about-facebook-and-elections/#7664499c4838

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:26 AM
Look at the video TSA.

Does the video include Trump campaign members?

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:26 AM
Look at the video TSA.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:26 AM
Facebook could be paying fines for violating the consent decree but I don't see any legal trouble for CA's work during the election.Could you point out the consent decree statute and fining guidelines?

Since you're only going to talk about Facebook and completely ignore everything about CA, go ahead and make your case.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:27 AM
Does the video include Trump campaign members?
The video includes his campaign firm. Managed by his campaign members. Do you excuse bribery and entrapment?

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:27 AM
In short, according to the Times’ reporting, which is borne out by many other reports of the time, the Obama campaign engaged in nearly identical activity to what Cambridge Analytica is claimed to have done: they took a set of users who willingly contributed their data to a cause and quietly mined their friend lists, downloading immense volumes of private material from unwitting individuals that never authorized, let alone had any idea, that a political campaign was harvesting their information from Facebook simply because a person they were connected with had given the organization permission to harvest their information.

In Obama’s case, the original contributors at least explicitly knew they were contributing to a campaign effort, even if their millions of unwitting friends had no idea their private information was being harvested to attempt to sway their voting behavior. In Cambridge Analytica’s case, users knew only that they were contributing to an academic research project, but the line between academia and the corporate world is ever more blurred in the data world and it is routine for academic institutions to engage in corporate-supported research using data owned by the institution in the support of commercial agendas. Indeed, the claims that Facebook data was collected for academic research and then made available to a commercial enterprise are hardly unsurprising for anyone familiar with the processes and procedures at most top US research universities, especially their corporate funded research and their licensing and commercialization programs.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kalevleetaru/2018/03/19/why-are-we-only-now-talking-about-facebook-and-elections/#7664499c4838Still *ding*ing :lmao

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:30 AM
Does the video include Trump campaign members?Dude, Bannon was a VP of this company.

You've accused Hillary of eating babies because her campaign official knows a weird artist, but somehow this is too difficult for you to imagine.

Blake
03-20-2018, 10:30 AM
:lmao
976072695669501955

:lol tsa

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:31 AM
Dude, Bannon was a VP of this company.

You've accused Hillary of eating babies because her campaign official knows a weird artist, but somehow this is too difficult for you to imagine.
:lmao

Blake
03-20-2018, 10:33 AM
Does the video include Trump campaign members?


Dude, Bannon was a VP of this company.

Tsa spin in 3...2..

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:33 AM
Cant wait for the video where they admit they helped Trump win the election. They said they would release that one today.Data Firm Says ‘Secret Sauce’ Aided Trump; Many Scoff

Cambridge is no longer in contention to work for Mr. Trump at the Republican National Committee, a company spokesman confirmed, nor is it working for America First Policies, a new nonprofit formed to help advance the president’s agenda.

In recent months, the value of Cambridge’s technology has been debated by technology experts and in some media accounts. But Cambridge officials, in recent interviews, defended the company’s record during the 2016 election, saying its data analysis helped Mr. Trump energize critical support in the Rust Belt. Mr. Nix said the firm had conducted tens of thousands of polls for Mr. Trump, helping guide his message and identify issues that mattered to voters.

But when asked to name a single race where the firm’s flagship product had been critical to victory, Mr. Nix declined.

“We bake a cake, it’s got 10 ingredients in it. Psychographics is one of them,” he said. “It’s very difficult to isolate exactly what the impact of that ingredient is.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/cambridge-analytica.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:35 AM
Could you point out the consent decree statute and fining guidelines?

Since you're only going to talk about Facebook and completely ignore everything about CA, go ahead and make your case.

I'm just going off of djohns article. If you want to talk about laws broken by CA then lets talk about them. What laws did CA break?

Blake
03-20-2018, 10:36 AM
Data Firm Says ‘Secret Sauce’ Aided Trump; Many Scoff

Cambridge is no longer in contention to work for Mr. Trump at the Republican National Committee, a company spokesman confirmed, nor is it working for America First Policies, a new nonprofit formed to help advance the president’s agenda.

In recent months, the value of Cambridge’s technology has been debated by technology experts and in some media accounts. But Cambridge officials, in recent interviews, defended the company’s record during the 2016 election, saying its data analysis helped Mr. Trump energize critical support in the Rust Belt. Mr. Nix said the firm had conducted tens of thousands of polls for Mr. Trump, helping guide his message and identify issues that mattered to voters.

But when asked to name a single race where the firm’s flagship product had been critical to victory, Mr. Nix declined.

“We bake a cake, it’s got 10 ingredients in it. Psychographics is one of them,” he said. “It’s very difficult to isolate exactly what the impact of that ingredient is.”

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/cambridge-analytica.html?referer=https://www.google.com/

Oh so CA was dumped by Trump in 2017. Neat.

Blake
03-20-2018, 10:37 AM
I'm just going off of djohns article. If you want to talk about laws broken by CA then lets talk about them. What laws did CA break?

Fuckin a you're retarded

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:38 AM
In late September 2016, Cambridge and other data vendors were submitting bids to the Trump campaign. Then-candidate Trump's campaign used Cambridge Analytica during the primaries and in the summer because it was never certain the Republican National Committee would be a willing, cooperative partner. Cambridge Analytica instead was a hedge against the RNC, in case it wouldn't share its data.

The crucial decision was made in late September or early October when Mr. Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and Brad Parscale, Mr. Trump's digital guru on the 2016 campaign, decided to utilize just the RNC data for the general election and used nothing from that point from Cambridge Analytica or any other data vendor. The Trump campaign had tested the RNC data, and it proved to be vastly more accurate than Cambridge Analytica's, and when it was clear the RNC would be a willing partner, Mr. Trump's campaign was able to rely solely on the RNC.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-campaign-phased-out-use-of-cambridge-analytica-data-before-election/?__twitter_impression=true

:cry muh primaries :cry

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:38 AM
I'm just going off of djohns article. If you want to talk about laws broken by CA then lets talk about them. What laws did CA break?Sorry, you've been called out.

Since you're only going to talk about Facebook and completely ignore everything about CA, go ahead and make your case.

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:39 AM
Oh so CA was dumped by Trump in 2017. Neat.

Fuckin a you're retarded

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-campaign-phased-out-use-of-cambridge-analytica-data-before-election/?__twitter_impression=true

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:41 AM
In late September 2016, Cambridge and other data vendors were submitting bids to the Trump campaign. Then-candidate Trump's campaign used Cambridge Analytica during the primaries and in the summer because it was never certain the Republican National Committee would be a willing, cooperative partner. Cambridge Analytica instead was a hedge against the RNC, in case it wouldn't share its data.

The crucial decision was made in late September or early October when Mr. Trump's son-in-law Jared Kushner and Brad Parscale, Mr. Trump's digital guru on the 2016 campaign, decided to utilize just the RNC data for the general election and used nothing from that point from Cambridge Analytica or any other data vendor. The Trump campaign had tested the RNC data, and it proved to be vastly more accurate than Cambridge Analytica's, and when it was clear the RNC would be a willing partner, Mr. Trump's campaign was able to rely solely on the RNC.

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-campaign-phased-out-use-of-cambridge-analytica-data-before-election/?__twitter_impression=true

:cry muh primaries :cry"Cambridge Analytica data was used for some targeted digital advertising and a large TV buy"

It wasn't used except when it was.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:47 AM
Isn't "targeted digital advertising" what this is all about? Looks like burying the lede tbh.

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:47 AM
Sorry, you've been called out.

Since you're only going to talk about Facebook and completely ignore everything about CA, go ahead and make your case.

Facebook Inc. is under investigation by a U.S. privacy watchdog over the use of personal data of 50 million users by a data analytics firm to help elect President Donald Trump.

The U.S. Federal Trade Commission is probing whether Facebook violated terms of a 2011 consent decree over its handing of user data that was transferred to Cambridge Analytica without their knowledge, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Under the 2011 settlement, Facebook agreed to get user consent for certain changes to privacy settings as part of a settlement of federal charges that it deceived consumers and forced them to share more personal information than they intended. That complaint arose after the company changed some user settings without notifying its customers, according to an FTC statement at the time.

An FTC spokeswoman said in emailed statement that the agency is aware of the issues that have been raised, but can’t comment on whether it is investigating. The agency takes any allegations of violations of consent decrees seriously, the statement said.

If the FTC finds Facebook violated terms of the consent decree, it has the power to fine the company more than $40,000 a day per violation.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/ftc-said-to-be-probing-facebook-for-use-of-personal-data


You're up Chump. What laws did Cambridge Analytica break?

Blake
03-20-2018, 10:49 AM
Fuckin a you're retarded

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/trump-campaign-phased-out-use-of-cambridge-analytica-data-before-election/?__twitter_impression=true

"The Trump contact with the firm ended on Election Day 2016*"

Oh so he didn't use them formally. Neat.

If I was TSA I would cry conspiracy here but that's not the original goal post.

You asked "what laws did CA break?"

Retard.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:49 AM
Facebook Inc. is under investigation by a U.S. privacy watchdog over the use of personal data of 50 million users by a data analytics firm to help elect President Donald Trump.

The U.S. Federal Trade Commission is probing whether Facebook violated terms of a 2011 consent decree over its handing of user data that was transferred to Cambridge Analytica without their knowledge, according to a person familiar with the matter.

Under the 2011 settlement, Facebook agreed to get user consent for certain changes to privacy settings as part of a settlement of federal charges that it deceived consumers and forced them to share more personal information than they intended. That complaint arose after the company changed some user settings without notifying its customers, according to an FTC statement at the time.

An FTC spokeswoman said in emailed statement that the agency is aware of the issues that have been raised, but can’t comment on whether it is investigating. The agency takes any allegations of violations of consent decrees seriously, the statement said.

If the FTC finds Facebook violated terms of the consent decree, it has the power to fine the company more than $40,000 a day per violation.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-03-20/ftc-said-to-be-probing-facebook-for-use-of-personal-data


You're up Chump. What laws did Cambridge Analytica break?I'm keen to find out since I made no claims one way or the other. I also don't see how the consent decree was broken here.

You haven't even watched the Channel 4 videos.

Why not?

Blake
03-20-2018, 10:50 AM
You're up Chump. What laws did Cambridge Analytica break?

Fuckin A you're fucking retarded.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 10:54 AM
The one thing I've seen evidence of is foreign nationals working on the campaign which is illegal but I'm not familiar with the penalties.

TSA
03-20-2018, 10:58 AM
The one thing I've seen evidence of is foreign nationals working on the campaign which is illegal but I'm not familiar with the penalties.

So none of the data gathering by Cambridge Analytica broke any laws that you know of?

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 11:01 AM
So none of the data gathering by Cambridge Analytica broke any laws that you know of?I am content to let the proper authorities determine whether any laws were broken. You can't even say FB broke the consent decree or not either. I think FB's upcoming regulation is long overdue.

Somehow, defending CA is incredibly important to you.

Why?

Blake
03-20-2018, 11:04 AM
So none of the data gathering by Cambridge Analytica broke any laws that you know of?

Nobody knows yet, dumbfuck. That's why officials are scrambling to get warrants and demanding Zuckerberg to testify as to what he knows.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 11:12 AM
The Channel 4 footage TSA won't watch is damning enough that CA's name is going to taint anything connected to it. Those connected are going to have to explain their use of CA. The biggest names currently connected to it?

Cruz
The NRA
Trump

This is why TSA is in full defense spin mode.

TSA
03-20-2018, 11:20 AM
I am content to let the proper authorities determine whether any laws were broken. You can't even say FB broke the consent decree or not either. I think FB's upcoming regulation is long overdue.

Somehow, defending CA is incredibly important to you.

Why?I'm content to let the FTC decide if Facebook broke the consent decree.

It's data collection and both parties do it every election. I wasn't outraged when Obama did it in 2012 and I'm not outraged that Trump did it in 2016. I also don't have Facebook, Instagram, etc so none of this really bothers me that much.

boutons_deux
03-20-2018, 11:21 AM
I agree, Trump’s legacy is tarnished by this.

His legacy was shot by his campaign, shot lower by his illegit so-called Presidency

His cult is providing the 35% approval ratings

TSA
03-20-2018, 11:22 AM
The Channel 4 footage TSA won't watch is damning enough that CA's name is going to taint anything connected to it. Those connected are going to have to explain their use of CA. The biggest names currently connected to it?

Cruz
The NRA
Trump

This is why TSA is in full defense spin mode.

What are you hoping happens with all of this?

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 11:34 AM
TSA is forgetting one thing. CA has no legal authority to have access to that data. Fuck off traitor.

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 11:36 AM
I know where this will go but the question that dumbass needs to be asking is who else had access to American voter information? Why was CA talking to Russian conglomerates about how to target American voters?

CosmicCowboy
03-20-2018, 11:41 AM
TSA is forgetting one thing. CA has no legal authority to have access to that data. Fuck off traitor.

They may have violated facebook guidelines but its not clear that they actually broke any laws.

Blake
03-20-2018, 11:44 AM
They may have violated facebook guidelines but its not clear that they actually broke any laws.

They talked about (on video) how they could help one politician set up their opponents with crazy smear tactics but no, no proof they broke laws yet.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 11:50 AM
I'm content to let the FTC decide if Facebook broke the consent decree.

It's data collection and both parties do it every election. I wasn't outraged when Obama did it in 2012 and I'm not outraged that Trump did it in 2016. I also don't have Facebook, Instagram, etc so none of this really bothers me that much.You didn't answer the question.

Somehow, defending CA is incredibly important to you.

Why?

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 11:52 AM
What are you hoping happens with all of this?I'm not hoping anything TSA.

I'm content with watching you squirm and spin while trying to act like it doesn't bother you.

:lol I don't got no facebook so it can't hurt me none

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:02 PM
You didn't answer the question.

Somehow, defending CA is incredibly important to you.

Why?

It's not incredibly important to me I'm simply responding to questions you are asking. Last night you guys were crying because I wasn't online answering your questions now you're crying that I am answering your questions. Pick a lane.

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:03 PM
TSA is forgetting one thing. CA has no legal authority to have access to that data. Fuck off traitor.

What law did CA break djohn?

CosmicCowboy
03-20-2018, 12:04 PM
They talked about (on video) how they could help one politician set up their opponents with crazy smear tactics but no, no proof they broke laws yet.

What does that have to do with the data mining you claimed was illegal?

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:06 PM
more Zuck is fucked

'Utterly horrifying': ex-Facebook insider says covert data harvesting was routine

Hundreds of millions of Facebook users are likely to have had their private information harvested by companies that exploited the same terms as the firm that collected data and passed it on to Cambridge Analytica, according to a new whistleblower.

Sandy Parakilas, the platform operations manager at Facebook responsible for policing data breaches by third-party software developers between 2011 and 2012, told the Guardian he warned senior executives at the company that its lax approach to data protection risked a major breach.

“My concerns were that all of the data that left Facebook servers to developers could not be monitored by Facebook, so we had no idea what developers were doing with the data,” he said.

Parakilas said Facebook had terms of service and settings that “people didn’t read or understand” and the company did not use its enforcement mechanisms, including audits of external developers, to ensure data was not being misused.

Parakilas, whose job was to investigate data breaches by developers similar to the one later suspected of Global Science Research, which harvested tens of millions of Facebook profiles and provided the data to Cambridge Analytica, said the slew of recent disclosures had left him disappointed with his superiors for not heeding his warnings.

“It has been painful watching,” he said, “because I know that they could have prevented it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/20/facebook-data-cambridge-analytica-sandy-parakilas?CMP=twt_gu

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 12:07 PM
What law did CA break djohn?

What legal right did they have to possess that information?

Trainwreck2100
03-20-2018, 12:08 PM
TSA is forgetting one thing. CA has no legal authority to have access to that data. Fuck off traitor.

Depends on what data they used, so many idiots just give their shit away

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 12:11 PM
It's not incredibly important to me I'm simply responding to questions you are asking. Last night you guys were crying because I wasn't online answering your questions now you're crying that I am answering your questions. Pick a lane.Of course it's important to you.

You're in full defend/spin/distract mode.

If it wasn't important to you, you wouldn't be spending so much time and effort on it.

You picked your lane and you're not leaving it.

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:13 PM
What legal right did they have to possess that information?

The data was obtained legally, the terms of service were violated when it was passed on to CA.

What law did CA break djohn?

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:14 PM
Of course it's important to you.

You're in full defend/spin/distract mode.

If it wasn't important to you, you wouldn't be spending so much time and effort on it.

You picked your lane and you're not leaving it.

It's really not important to me but I do enjoy laughing at people who had no clue this shit has been going on for a long time and now all of the sudden care about it because Trump.

None of this Cambridge Analytica stuff hurts Trump, this all hurts Facebook.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 12:15 PM
The data was obtained legally, the terms of service were violated when it was passed on to CA.Why did FB suspend them?

Blake
03-20-2018, 12:15 PM
What does that have to do with the data mining you claimed was illegal?

Or the price of rice in China!

I never claimed that

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 12:16 PM
It's really not important to me but I do enjoy laughing at people who had no clue this shit has been going on for a long time and now all of the sudden care about it because Trump.

None of this Cambridge Analytica stuff hurts Trump, this all hurts Facebook.Defending Trump is the most important thing to you.

And you just defended him.

It's the lane you picked.

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:18 PM
Why did FB suspend them?

Gee I wonder why, maybe the terms of service were violated like I said in what you just quoted.

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:21 PM
Defending Trump is the most important thing to you.

And you just defended him.

It's the lane you picked.

The most important thing for me here on spurstalk is laughing at all your constant blue balls from your weekly Trump's finished circle jerks.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 12:22 PM
Gee I wonder why, maybe the terms of service were violated like I said in what you just quoted.Oh. That seems significant.


The most important thing for me here on spurstalk is laughing at all your constant blue balls from your weekly Trump's finished circle jerks.When did I say Trump is finished, TSA?

Be specific. After all, it's the most important thing for you.

Blake
03-20-2018, 12:23 PM
more Zuck is fucked

'Utterly horrifying': ex-Facebook insider says covert data harvesting was routine

Hundreds of millions of Facebook users are likely to have had their private information harvested by companies that exploited the same terms as the firm that collected data and passed it on to Cambridge Analytica, according to a new whistleblower.

Sandy Parakilas, the platform operations manager at Facebook responsible for policing data breaches by third-party software developers between 2011 and 2012, told the Guardian he warned senior executives at the company that its lax approach to data protection risked a major breach.

“My concerns were that all of the data that left Facebook servers to developers could not be monitored by Facebook, so we had no idea what developers were doing with the data,” he said.

Parakilas said Facebook had terms of service and settings that “people didn’t read or understand” and the company did not use its enforcement mechanisms, including audits of external developers, to ensure data was not being misused.

Parakilas, whose job was to investigate data breaches by developers similar to the one later suspected of Global Science Research, which harvested tens of millions of Facebook profiles and provided the data to Cambridge Analytica, said the slew of recent disclosures had left him disappointed with his superiors for not heeding his warnings.

“It has been painful watching,” he said, “because I know that they could have prevented it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/20/facebook-data-cambridge-analytica-sandy-parakilas?CMP=twt_gu

Please.

Wait a few days and it might actually be a good time to buy FB stock. Way too many people out there addicted to the FB.

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:31 PM
Oh. That seems significant.

When did I say Trump is finished, TSA?

Be specific. After all, it's the most important thing for you.

Do you not hope for Trump to be impeached?

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 12:33 PM
Do you not hope for Trump to be impeached?

https://media1.tenor.com/images/c924b622b71a51d0c4aa21760c69b9f3/tenor.gif?itemid=9264828When did I say Trump is finished, TSA?

Be specific. After all, it's the most important thing for you.

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:39 PM
When did I say Trump is finished, TSA?

Be specific. After all, it's the most important thing for you.

You don't have to specifically say Trump's finished to still be a participant in the weekly Trump's finished circle jerk threads. It's a group activity and you haven't missed one yet.

Do you not hope for Trump to be impeached and participate in every single thread discussing something that could possibly get him impeached?

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 12:42 PM
You don't have to specifically say Trump's finished to still be a participant in the weekly Trump's finished circle jerk threads. It's a group activity and you haven't missed one yet.

Do you not hope for Trump to be impeached and participate in every single thread discussing something that could possibly get him impeached?Sorry, TSA -- you keep dodging this question so I'll keep asking it.

When did I say Trump is finished, TSA?

Be specific. After all, it's the most important thing for you.

TSA
03-20-2018, 12:48 PM
Sorry, TSA -- you keep dodging this question so I'll keep asking it.

When did I say Trump is finished, TSA?

Be specific. After all, it's the most important thing for you.

I don't know if you ever specifically said Trump is finished, but I know you have participated in threads that have.

That makes you a participant in the weekly Trump's finished circle jerk threads. It's a group activity and you haven't missed one yet.

Do you not hope for Trump to be impeached and participate in every single thread discussing something that could possibly get him impeached?

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 12:49 PM
I don't know if you ever specifically said Trump is finishedOh.

That's because I never said it.

Keep that in your file since it's the most important thing to you.

Hoping for impeachment would be a waste of time with the group of cowards in the Republican party.

Reck
03-20-2018, 12:50 PM
TSA Be like arrest the gun. I had nothing to do with the shooting. :lol

pgardn
03-20-2018, 12:55 PM
CA used stolen information, to harvest propaganda. Not mention bribery and entrapment.

CA used supposedly protected personal information to target their propaganda in a very efficient manner. This is what I got so far.

Anyone got a good article that explains possible legal issues?

TSA
03-20-2018, 01:02 PM
Oh.

That's because I never said it.

Keep that in your file since it's the most important thing to you.

Hoping for impeachment would be a waste of time with the group of cowards in the Republican party.

I noted in my file that you don't deny participating in the weekly Trump's finished circle jerk threads.

TSA
03-20-2018, 01:03 PM
CA used supposedly protected personal information to target their propaganda in a very efficient manner. This is what I got so far.

Anyone got a good article that explains possible legal issues?

For Cambridge Analytica no. Have only seen legal issues brought up concerning Facebook.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 01:05 PM
I noted in my file that you don't deny participating in the weekly Trump's finished circle jerk threads.The "Trump is a piece of shit human being and the worst president in US history" threads.

I don't see any need to defend him.

Why do you see the need to defend him?

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 01:06 PM
For Cambridge Analytica no. Have only seen legal issues brought up concerning Facebook.You haven't even watched the Channel 4 videos :lol

spurraider21
03-20-2018, 01:07 PM
You haven't even watched the Channel 4 videos :lol
neither have i, tbh. haven't read up on this story.

how does it compare to project veritas stuff, tho

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 01:14 PM
neither have i, tbh. haven't read up on this story.

how does it compare to project veritas stuff, thoThe undercover work is really quite extraordinary. They totally played on the CA officials' arrogance with a dash of leftover imperial paternalism. It seems they let their guards down bragging to what they thought was a Sri Lankan dude.

KenMcCoy
03-20-2018, 01:23 PM
After reading a few more articles, I'm having trouble finding where CA broke any US laws or election laws. They may have bribed/blackmailed people in other countries, but I haven't read any of that happening in the US. I don't like the big brother aspect of CA/FB at all, but unfortunately our laws have not caught up to technology. Technology is just moving too fast for our lawmakers to keep pace with. Ten years ago, no one would have imagined the amount of information that we provide through our phones like constant location tracking, purchases, etc.

My $0.02 on CA... it looks like they sold vaporware. Their initial selling point was that they had this treasure trove of data that could help sway elections and specifically target voters but once Parscale (shout out to the SA homie) actually started looking at the data he decided that it wasn't valuable. They got scammed out of $5M by CA and Bannon. Now, CA has information that's really not as valuable as they thought, but they're still out there selling the promise so they start resorting to bribes/blackmail as proof of their results.

Reck
03-20-2018, 01:26 PM
neither have i, tbh. haven't read up on this story.

how does it compare to project veritas stuff, tho


This report is Part Two of a Channel 4 News series, ‘Data, Democracy and Dirty Tricks’, investigating Cambridge Analytica.

Part Three, on the company’s work in the United States, will be broadcast at 7pm tonight (Tuesday, 20 March 2018).

Oh baby.

Here's the link to the site and the other 2 released videos thus far.


https://www.channel4.com/news/data-democracy-and-dirty-tricks-cambridge-analytica-uncovered-investigation-expose

Part 3 is going to focus on how they claim they helped Trump win.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 01:26 PM
The wingnut conspiracy involves the use of data from Spectrum health, but it all looks like pizza to me.

spurraider21
03-20-2018, 01:30 PM
The undercover work is really quite extraordinary. They totally played on the CA officials' arrogance with a dash of leftover imperial paternalism. It seems they let their guards down bragging to what they thought was a Sri Lankan dude.


Oh baby.

Here's the link to the site and the other 2 released videos thus far.


https://www.channel4.com/news/data-democracy-and-dirty-tricks-cambridge-analytica-uncovered-investigation-expose

Part 3 is going to focus on how they claim they helped Trump win.
thanks, will check them out after work today. i'm just generally skeptical of hidden camera exposes that have been edited to death

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 01:32 PM
Latest one should be hitting the air pretty soon.

KenMcCoy
03-20-2018, 01:52 PM
Finally watched the video...CA has two good defenses for the statements in the video: puffery or they were trying to ascertain whether the client wanted them to do something illegal, at which point they would cease discussions. One guy says "we don't do this type of stuff" and then at the next meeting with the main boss, the boss says "we do this type of stuff." It's kind of odd...

Will be interested to see what comes out in the next two parts.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 01:54 PM
When the head of the company says his company does something, his company does that thing.

Reck
03-20-2018, 01:55 PM
Finally watched the video...CA has two good defenses for the statements in the video: puffery or they were trying to ascertain whether the client wanted them to do something illegal, at which point they would cease discussions. One guy says "we don't do this type of stuff" and then at the next meeting with the main boss, the boss says "we do this type of stuff." It's kind of odd...

Will be interested to see what comes out in the next two parts.

Probably know better not to do it in the United States. But the guy admits as much that they've gone beyond the call of duty in places like Africa.

At some point in the video he says they pretty much run elections there.

boutons_deux
03-20-2018, 02:02 PM
Finally watched the video...CA has two good defenses for the statements in the video: puffery or they were trying to ascertain whether the client wanted them to do something illegal, at which point they would cease discussions. One guy says "we don't do this type of stuff" and then at the next meeting with the main boss, the boss says "we do this type of stuff." It's kind of odd...

Will be interested to see what comes out in the next two parts.

they weren't under oath. Believe nothing, that won't admit EVER to any wrongdoing. Their business is dishonest propaganda, so of course they would lie about their business.

And the CA founder is a fucking Russian.

Reck
03-20-2018, 02:06 PM
Part 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy-9iciNF1A

Reck
03-20-2018, 02:22 PM
976174074572533760

:lmao TSA

Chris
03-20-2018, 02:26 PM
976176968239476737

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 02:26 PM
Part 3:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cy-9iciNF1AOh man, Hillary's spot in this story is going to trigger the Trumpistas bigly.

Reck
03-20-2018, 02:29 PM
I gotta get me some protonmail accounts. :lol

This is scary shit.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 02:33 PM
:lmao Nix just called Dennison his puppet

Blake
03-20-2018, 02:38 PM
976176968239476737

Oh a whataboutObama tweet. No way!

Blake
03-20-2018, 02:40 PM
:lmao Nix just called Dennison his puppet

Lol.

Getting news of the Trump campaign officially ditching CA but receiving check from a lawyer representing a Mr.Dennison would make my afternoon.

Blake
03-20-2018, 02:41 PM
976174074572533760

:lmao TSA

Oh damn

Blake
03-20-2018, 02:42 PM
"Yeah but what crime did they commit"

In 3....2..

Chris
03-20-2018, 02:59 PM
FACEBOOK FAIL: Obama Campaign ‘SUCKED’ Private User Data During 2012 Election



As the controversy surrounding Facebook’s alleged cooperation with outside entities continues to swirl; new information shows former President Barack Obama’s 2012 campaign mined the social network’s user data to help reach likely voters, reports Fox News.

Carol Davidsen, Obama’s former Director of Integration and Media Analytics, confirmed the campaign’s use of Facebook’s “social graphs” -illustrations that map users’ varying connections- on Twitter, saying “Facebook was surprised we were able to suck out the whole social graph, but they didn’t stop us once they realized that was what we were doing.”

“They came to office in the days following election recruiting & were very candid that they allowed us to do things they wouldn’t have allowed someone else to do because they were on our side,” she added.


975569294644924416


975568130117459975


Davidsen’s admission comes as Facebook finds itself in hot-water over their policies permitting outside factors to impact the US electoral system.

Earlier this year, the Justice Department indicted 13 Russian nationals for exploiting Facebook in order to sway American voters.

https://www.hannity.com/media-room/facebook-fail-obama-campaign-sucked-private-user-data-during-2012-election/

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 03:03 PM
Yeah, TSA tried all this *ding* stuff yesterday.

You guys really need to coordinate your defensive efforts more bigly.

Chris
03-20-2018, 03:07 PM
Terms I will never use.

bigly

totes

cray-cray

This is diction for the modern day snowflake.

Pavlov
03-20-2018, 03:10 PM
Terms I will never use.

bigly

totes

cray-cray

This is diction for the modern day snowflake.lol triggered

Chris
03-20-2018, 03:11 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYvXgC9WkAELBpw.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYvei_GVQAAkP_R.jpg:large
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DYvbgBAVAAMCBWw.jpg:large

Chris
03-20-2018, 04:45 PM
lol @ #34 :wow


976128646770511872

Blake
03-20-2018, 04:48 PM
lol @ #34 :wow


976128646770511872

Similar to #18, dumbfuck.

Chris
03-20-2018, 04:50 PM
Similar to #18, dumbfuck.

lol triggered

Chris
03-20-2018, 05:01 PM
976214644233768961

Blake
03-20-2018, 05:27 PM
lol triggered

Spit out in your own words why the ownership of Facebook stock by the state of California made you lol.

Is it because you think it's a conspiracy or are you laughing just because you think you're supposed to laugh at bad things happening to California?

Chris
03-20-2018, 06:00 PM
Spit out in your own words why the ownership of Facebook stock by the state of California made you lol.

Is it because you think it's a conspiracy or are you laughing just because you think you're supposed to laugh at bad things happening to California?

lol Blake

Blake
03-20-2018, 06:11 PM
Yeah Chris has completely lost it

CosmicCowboy
03-20-2018, 06:15 PM
They probably bought at the IPO. They can afford for it to go down a little

KenMcCoy
03-20-2018, 07:20 PM
"Yeah but what crime did they commit"

In 3....2..

The only potential US crime I've seen (and was mentioned in the video) may be some concentrated effort between the campaign and the PAC. Not sure what the penalties are for that.

After watching the third video, it's even less shocking. They acted as a PAC to identify potential voters and advertised to them. That's not that different than doing TV campaigns in certain geographic locations on specific channels. It's all just been updated for social media.

Even the investigators say at the end "almost all of this is bragging to try and land a client."

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:08 PM
976249575353864192

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:09 PM
976250973164359681

djohn2oo8
03-20-2018, 10:15 PM
976253396276727810

djohn2oo8
03-21-2018, 02:51 PM
976540270085967872

djohn2oo8
03-21-2018, 02:51 PM
976541502510911489

djohn2oo8
03-21-2018, 05:54 PM
976552352353345537

koriwhat
03-21-2018, 05:58 PM
Spit out in your own words why the ownership of Facebook stock by the state of California made you lol.

Is it because you think it's a conspiracy or are you laughing just because you think you're supposed to laugh at bad things happening to California?

lol FUCK CALIFORNIA! BURN TO THE GROUND AND FALL INTO THE SEA ALREADY!

Reck
03-21-2018, 06:02 PM
lol FUCK CALIFORNIA! BURN TO THE GROUND AND FALL INTO THE SEA ALREADY!

Daily dose of Koriwhat 'Calf tats" ST meltdown.

:lol

koriwhat
03-21-2018, 06:06 PM
Daily dose of Koriwhat 'Calf tats" ST meltdown.

:lol

your definition of a meltdown is almost as funny as your definition of a male/female.

Reck
03-21-2018, 06:14 PM
your definition of a meltdown is almost as funny as your definition of a male/female.

Put it in ALL CAPS!

spurraider21
03-21-2018, 06:16 PM
the day isn't complete until koriwhat demands the death of multiple people in all caps

koriwhat
03-21-2018, 06:21 PM
Put it in ALL CAPS!

there's always a first time for everything.

koriwhat
03-21-2018, 06:22 PM
the day isn't complete until koriwhat demands the death of multiple people in all caps

the day isn't complete until we hear from pussy's like yourself SR.

Blake
03-21-2018, 10:15 PM
the day isn't complete until koriwhat demands the death of multiple people in all caps

Lol

djohn2oo8
03-22-2018, 01:01 PM
976878686803816448
Double fucking boom!

djohn2oo8
03-22-2018, 01:03 PM
976873166873210880
:lmao