When you see it... you will flip.

[RandomGuy]

https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/5abf6bee200000d30ceb3851.jpeg?cache=e4gymkozpm&ops=scalefit_720_noupscale

[DeadlyDynasty]

Neat.

[Chris]

No flips confirmed

Also


Pity post.

[RandomGuy]

No flips confirmed

Also


Pity post.

You don't notice a pattern in the WHITE House intern program this year?

[clambake]

other than a couple of black people ruining it, i don't see a problem.

[SnakeBoy]

OMG White people! I'm flippin out dude!

[SpursforSix]

You don't notice a pattern in the WHITE House intern program this year?

We don't have enough info. The light skinned people could have heritage from 100's of countries.

[Chris]

I see about 92 people with the women represented well. I see one for sure (probably 2) 'african americans' which represent close to 14% of the population represented proportionately. I never would have looked for those things unless you pointed them out. Proof that the Left will create imaginary enemies when they are losing badly.

[Blake]

How great would it be if his last name was Washington with his great great great grandfather's portrait hanging behind them

[spurraider21]

I see about 92 people with the women represented well. I see one for sure (probably 2) 'african americans' which represent close to 14% of the population represented proportionately. I never would have looked for those things unless you pointed them out. Proof that the Left will create imaginary enemies when they are losing badly.
i counted a little over 90. do you really think 2/90 represents close to 14%?

[Blake]

i counted a little over 90. do you really think 2/90 represents close to 14%?

Lol

[Chris]

i counted a little over 90. do you really think 2/90 represents close to 14%?

Who should we fire so we can replace them with black people?

[spurraider21]

Who should we fire so we can replace them with black people?
i didnt say we should. there are all kinds of reasons why national population demographics would not be accurately represented in any job setting. for one thing, black students would probably be less likely to seek internship for a republican president than if a democrat was in office, much less a black democrat like obama.

i'm just calling out your claim that ~2/90 is somehow close to 14%

do you stand by that claim?

[Chris]

i didnt say we should. there are all kinds of reasons why national population demographics would not be accurately represented in any job setting.

i'm just calling out your claim that ~1/90 is somehow close to 14%

do you stand by that claim?

Close enough for my liking. Not surprised you are pulling teeth over a trivial issue while missing the overall point.

[Pavlov]

Close enough for my liking.Zero would've been better for White Chris.

[spurraider21]

Close enough for my liking. Not surprised you are pulling teeth over a trivial issue while missing the overall point.
see edits above.

so you are confirming that you think 2.2% represents close to 14%

you realize that's off by a factor of nearly 7?

[Brazil]

2/92 = 14% :lmao

and this guy spends his time to try to convince this board Trump is a genius... hilarious.. oh bloody hell what a fucking imbecile this guy is

[BD24]

I feel a little bad for Chris at times. The guy is clearly a fuckig idiot. 2/90=14%:lol

[Brazil]

Trivial issue ? :lmao

[Chris]

see edits above.

so you are confirming that you think 2.2% represents close to 14%

you realize that's off by a factor of nearly 7?

I'm used to the editing after the fact. It's the Pavlov special.

[Brazil]

I feel a little bad for Chris at times. The guy is clearly a fuckig idiot. 2/90=14%:lol

Wants to make a point about picture being reprensative, missed it by a factor of 7 then go the way of the trivial issue... how dumb a human being can be !

:lmao

[Brazil]

Also, close enough :lol

[DMC]

You don't notice a pattern in the WHITE House intern program this year?

What color are you?

[BD24]

Chris if you were wondering btw the correct answer would be close to 13 if we are going to go with the number 90. I’m not sure what kind of backwards math they teach in whatever backwoods school you went to. But, in the real world 2 and 13 aren’t remotely close

[Pavlov]

DMC springs into action!

WHAT COLOR ARE YOU???????

YEAH!!!!

[Brazil]

DMC to the rescue !!!

[Pavlov]

DMC to the rescue !!!WHAT COLOR ARE YOU????

[spurraider21]

I'm used to the editing after the fact. It's the Pavlov special.
it was edited within seconds tbh :lol... after a few minutes it would leave the "this message was edited on..." description. it's really not a big deal.

[Pavlov]

it was edited within seconds tbh :lol... after a few minutes it would leave the "this message was edited on..." description. it's really not a big deal.BUT WHAT COLOR ARE YOU?????

[BD24]

Chris: “how big will my bonus be this year boss, I know we talked about 14% earlier this year.

boss: “I was thinking 3%”

Chris: “that sounds fair, it’s a pretty trivial difference”

now guys I know what your going to say, but the hourly workers at McDonald’s don’t get % bonuses like that. Fair play, but this was obviously being used as more of an example than Chris reality.

[RandomGuy]

I see about 92 people with the women represented well. I see one for sure (probably 2) 'african americans' which represent close to 14% of the population represented proportionately. I never would have looked for those things unless you pointed them out. Proof that the Left will create imaginary enemies when they are losing badly.

Can't tell an Indian from an African.

One black person, one lndian, a bunch of white kids... what's missing white Chris?

[Brazil]

Chris: “how big will my bonus be this year boss, I know we talked about 14% earlier this year.

boss: “I was thinking 3%”

Chris: “that sounds fair, it’s a pretty trivial difference”

now guys I know what your going to say, but the hourly workers at McDonald’s don’t get % bonuses like that. Fair play, but this was obviously being used as more of an example than Chris reality.

:lol

but seriously what color are you ?

[RandomGuy]

I see about 92 people with the women represented well. I see one for sure (probably 2) 'african americans' which represent close to 14% of the population represented proportionately. I never would have looked for those things unless you pointed them out. Proof that the Left will create imaginary enemies when they are losing badly.

2% is "close to" 14%.


Man, do I have a home mortgage loan for you. The interest rate is close to 2%.

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

What color are you?

The relevant question is what have you done for white people recently?

[RandomGuy]

OMG White people! I'm flippin out dude!

White people represent roughly 60% of the population.

Yet 98% of the interns for the Republican white house are white.

If your stupid ass doesn't see that as a problem, that is fine with this Democrat. :lol

[Blake]

OMG White people! I'm flippin out dude!

What color are you?

[DeadlyDynasty]

Chris will take this one to his ST grave

[Chris]

Who should we fire so we can replace them with black people?

[BD24]

Chris: “how big will my bonus be this year boss, I know we talked about 14% earlier this year.

boss: “I was thinking 3%”

Chris: “that sounds fair, it’s a pretty trivial difference”

now guys I know what your going to say, but the hourly workers at McDonald’s don’t get % bonuses like that. Fair play, but this was obviously being used as more of an example than Chris reality.

[SpursforSix]

White people represent roughly 60% of the population.

Yet 98% of the interns for the Republican white house are white.

If your stupid ass doesn't see that as a problem, that is fine with this Democrat. :lol


Black voters are easily America’s most partisan racial group. The vast majority are registered Democrats or lean Democratic. While 11 percent of black voters say they have conservative leanings, only 3 percent are black Republicans, according to a 2016 report from the Pew Research Center.

https://journalistsresource.org/studies/society/race-society/black-republicans-minority-voters-gop



Seems pretty close to 2%.
And there was probably a black guy or two that didn't show up to work that day.

[Chris]

Chris will take this one to his ST grave

Nah but spurraider21 will bookmark it for later. Considering black males represent close to 7% of the population I'm not surprised to see only one there. Anything else that was construed about my post is simply a reach. I called this game of "gotcha" after Trump wiped the floor with her ass. They have been salty ever since.

[DeadlyDynasty]

To be fair, 2% is an accurate depiction of working african americans

[spurraider21]

Nah but spurraider21 will bookmark it for later. Considering black males represent close to 7% of the population I'm not surprised to see only one there. Anything else that was construed about my post is simply a reach. I called this game of "gotcha" after Trump wiped the floor with her ass. They have been salty ever since.
do you know what 1/90 is?

do you think it's 7%?

[Blake]

do you know what 1/90 is?

do you think it's 7%?

Lol

[Chris]

do you know what 1/90 is?

Yes.


do you think it's 7%?

No, you're reaching. See post #14 if you are still confused.

[TeyshaBlue]

You don't notice a pattern in the WHITE House intern program this year?

Irrelevant for a number of reasons. Did you see this in Vox?

[Brazil]

Yes.



No, you're reaching. See post #14 if you are still confused.

Is post #14 14% black tbh ?

[RandomGuy]

Who should we fire so we can replace them with black people?

None Chris.

How many people of color applied?

[Chris]

None Chris.

How many people of color applied?

You tell me.

[RandomGuy]

Irrelevant for a number of reasons. Did you see this in Vox?

Very relevant for making the point that the Trump party is overwhelmingly white, with all that entails. Feel free to say why the fact that the Trump white house has pretty much exclusively hired one color over all others isn't relevant.

[SpursforSix]

Very relevant for making the point that the Trump party is overwhelmingly white, with all that entails. Feel free to say why the fact that the Trump white house has pretty much exclusively hired one color over all others isn't relevant.

LOL at you making all these assumptions based on a picture. How many qualified black people applied to be an intern? Do you think it's a significantly higher % than the % of black republicans?

[TeyshaBlue]

LOL at you making all these assumptions based on a picture. How many qualified black people applied to be an intern? Do you think it's a significantly higher % than the % of black republicans?

Doesn't matter because he's pissed....and because R.

[Blake]

Lol yeah honestly I'd have to think the number of blacks wanting to work in this white house would be lower than the previous administration. I don't know why

[Spurminator]

There's definitely a chicken/egg dynamic here that allows people on both sides to see a photo like this as representative of a problem with the other side.

Dems: "See? Conservative outreach to minorities is poor."
Reps: "See? Minorities aren't giving us a chance because of liberal identity politics."

I don't think it's a very effective tool for argument. But it is sad.

[Spurminator]

But it is sad.

... mainly because these poor kids have a historic opportunity to intern at the White House and unfortunately it's under the most idiotic POTUS in history.

[monosylab1k]

:lmao “2/90 = 14%”

[Chris]

:lmao “2/90 = 14%”

Never said such :lmao

[Pavlov]

Never said such :lmao
Close enough:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

Never said such :lmao
L.

[spurraider21]

1 - Gets called out for saying 2/90 = 14%

2 - Actually doubles down and says 1/90 = 7%

[Chris]

1 - Gets called out for saying 2/90 = 14%

2 - Actually doubles down and says 1/90 = 7%

lol "called out"

lol @ double down

lol racist AF

[Nathan89]

Can't tell an Indian from an African.

One black person, one lndian, a bunch of white kids... what's missing white Chris?

Are you an idiot or are you incapable of seeing anything outside of clusters? There are other non white people in that picture.

[Nathan89]

Also the idiocy of virtue signaling for diversity while throwing racial insults like "white Chris". You are making yourself look like a complete idiot.

[Nathan89]

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/google-numbers2.png

Seeking equality of outcome is a unobtainable goal.

[Nathan89]

If you are expecting an equal representation based on the population in your political party then the only possible way to achieve that is to punish more qualified people. That's just a fact.

[Nathan89]

Last but not least we shouldn't forget the divisive propaganda that the left pumps out that would lower the numbers of qualified applicants from seeking a position.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx2oY0i0Wg4

[Spurminator]

If you are expecting an equal representation based on the population in your political party then the only possible way to achieve that is to punish more qualified people. That's just a fact.

This kind of talk implies people's qualifications for schools/jobs are not largely subjective and that people can simply be ranked in order of qualification, which makes me wonder if you've ever been in charge of, or even involved in, hiring anyone.

[Nathan89]

This kind of talk implies people's qualifications for schools/jobs are not largely subjective and that people can simply be ranked in order of qualification, which makes me wonder if you've ever been in charge of, or even involved in, hiring anyone.

The goal is to make the best decision based on merit.

Also that talk is just a reality. You won't possibly get the percentages of the population if the standard of entry is a college degree. Black people just don't graduate at the same rate. If you go further and look at grades you'll get even less. That's just the reality of the situation.

Equality of outcome is impossible if you have high standards.

[Chris]

Last but not least we shouldn't forget the divisive propaganda that the left pumps out that would lower the numbers of qualified applicants from seeking a position.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx2oY0i0Wg4

The Left subscribes to the idea of "white privilege" hence the white Chris nonsense. Again this is that imaginary enemies thingy. They indoctrinate the youth with this concept at an early age and through college because they know it is absurd and that any rational logical adult would reject it. The idea that minorities should be equally represented or even over represented is a derivative of this concept. The concept became legislation with Affirmative Action and has mutated into an insatiable monster that can never be satisfied.

[BD24]

Jesus christ Chris. You are really so stupid you don't think white privilege exist? That is gem number three for the night. :lol

As a white male born to a upper/middle class family I can promise you white privilege is real. Honestly anyone that can't see that simply doesn't want to see it and honestly probably doesn't hang out with many people of color.

[Nathan89]

The Left subscribes to the idea of "white privilege" hence the white Chris nonsense. Again this is that imaginary enemies thingy. They indoctrinate the youth with this concept at an early age and through college because they know it is absurd and that any rational logical adult would reject it. The idea that minorities should be equally represented or even over represented is a derivative of this concept. The concept became legislation with Affirmative Action and has mutated into an insatiable monster that can never be satisfied.

Yep, it's a sad, toxic, and divisive perspective. Everybody wants more representation of the population. I mean most people do. Therefore, you'll get some bending on the standards. You still won't get alignment or even close to alignment with the population unless you actively go out of your way to punish more qualified people.

[Chris]

Yep, it's a sad, toxic, and divisive perspective. Everybody wants more representation of the population. I mean most people do. Therefore, you'll get some bending on the standards. You still won't get alignment or even close to alignment with the population unless you actively go out of your way to punish more qualified people.

Sadly they fail to realize that Asians and Indians do quite well in America despite being 'under represented.'

[BD24]

Sadly they fail to realize that Asians and Indians do quite well in America despite being 'under represented.'
How did Asians and Indians arrive in America. Specifically which Asians and Indians came here?

Now on the flip side, how did most African Americans arrive in America.

You are so stupid though that this may be a futile effort. They didn't teach basic math in your school, so I doubt your American history was very good either.

[spurraider21]

The Left subscribes to the idea of "white privilege" hence the white Chris nonsense. Again this is that imaginary enemies thingy. They indoctrinate the youth with this concept at an early age and through college because they know it is absurd and that any rational logical adult would reject it. The idea that minorities should be equally represented or even over represented is a derivative of this concept. The concept became legislation with Affirmative Action and has mutated into an insatiable monster that can never be satisfied.
white privilege isn't some active force that keeps down minorities in every step of their lives.

more generally, it speaks to the fact that minorities tend to have additional obstacles and hurdles that white people simply dont have to account for. we've already seen experiments, for example, where identical job applications are submitted with different names, and the minority-named applicants get significantly less responses. white people in new york didnt really have to worry about stop and frisk when that was going on. white people are less likely to be profiled by law enforcement.

similar with sex. a guy walking to his car at night doesn't have to constantly scan his field of vision for potential threats... at least not nearly to the degree women have to. men sitting on subways or buses dont need to worry about creeps nearly as often.

these are just little things that can add up over a lifetime. but it's much less effective when you can look at individual circumstances, and say "oh that guy only succeeded because of white privilege." its more apparent on a grander scale, when you're able to look at statistics, rather than the micro scale

though if we're gonna look at a specific case a black/hispanic guy who underage drunk drove and killed people probably wouldn't have gotten away with an "affluenza" defense imho

[Spurminator]

The goal is to make the best decision based on merit.

Also that talk is just a reality. You won't possibly get the percentages of the population if the standard of entry is a college degree. Black people just don't graduate at the same rate. If you go further and look at grades you'll get even less. That's just the reality of the situation.

Equality of outcome is impossible if you have high standards.

The objective is not always to put together a team of the most qualified (X) number of applicants. Good hiring managers make a point to pull from a diverse set of backgrounds, and racial/ethnic/gender diversity is a part of that. You're building a team, not rewarding people based on merit or even going after some kind of quota. The best companies in the world have highly diverse talent pools. Proctor & Gamble doesn't hire token blacks to put in charge of multimillion dollar brands. These are highly qualified, very smart people.

It's the same way a basketball team tries to build a roster with complimentary skillsets. If qualifications were not subjective, there'd be no point in having a draft because you'd just rank every player and divvy up to the teams as ranked.

I've already said I don't think the intern photo tells the whole story, but if I was in charge of a Republican White House intern group? I'd definitely make a point to pull a larger number of minorities. Not for show or for a photo op, or for a quota, but because it would be very valuable for that group of interns to work with people from backgrounds more diverse than which state they're from or which Ivy League school their parents met at.

[Nathan89]

Jesus christ Chris. You are really so stupid you don't think white privilege exist? That is gem number three for the night. :lol

As a white male born to a upper/middle class family I can promise you white privilege is real. Honestly anyone that can't see that simply doesn't want to see it and honestly probably doesn't hang out with many people of color.

"White privilege" is a term invented to divide the population. It serves no purpose at all even if you do think it exists.

What you actually achieve is white guilt. Which is an absolutely terrible outcome. It will only lead to exactly what this thread is expecting, which is for people to go out of their way(change standards) to achieve the unreasonable goal of equality of outcome.

It's also absolutely terrible concept to thrust on to the black population. What better way than that to make a population feel hopeless which will discourage them from putting in max effort to change their lives? The feeling of being hopeless has massive effects on people.

It's an absolute cancer to our country.

Instead of blanket terms that serve absolutely no purpose but to divide people and lead to terrible outcomes you can focus on actionable areas to improve. For example, mass incarceration could easily be focused on and make a significant difference in the black community. The majority of people could focus on this goal and real positive change can actually occur. There is certainly more effective ways to combat drug uses than long sentences. This will allow more black men to be involved with their family. A massive achievement for black Americans(for all Americans really).

If you just want to throw out blanket terms that aren't actionable in any way then we will go nowhere. You actually need to focus on quantifiable issues if you want to tackle them.

[Nathan89]

The objective is not always to put together a team of the most qualified (X) number of applicants. Good hiring managers make a point to pull from a diverse set of backgrounds, and racial/ethnic/gender diversity is a part of that. You're building a team, not rewarding people based on merit or even going after some kind of quota. The best companies in the world have highly diverse talent pools. Proctor & Gamble doesn't hire token blacks to put in charge of multimillion dollar brands. These are highly qualified, very smart people.

It's the same way a basketball team tries to build a roster with complimentary skillsets. If qualifications were not subjective, there'd be no point in having a draft because you'd just rank every player and divvy up to the teams as ranked.

I've already said I don't think the intern photo tells the whole story, but if I was in charge of a Republican White House intern group? I'd definitely make a point to pull a larger number of minorities. Not for show or for a photo op, or for a quota, but because it would be very valuable for that group of interns to work with people from backgrounds more diverse than which state they're from or which Ivy League school their parents met at.

This is outcome is a combination of many different inputs. As I mentioned in one of my comments to Chris, even the most merit focused will bend a little to achieve some diversity. You can't completely change the standard though. You can't have the standard of college degree and then change that for diversity. You will certainly not get the same levels of representation of the population which was being touted as the goal earlier in the this thread.

The best companies in the world having diverse employment isn't necessarily because of the diverse talent. A company that shoots for diversity is showing the inclination for change instead of a company that doesn't which is more likely to be stagnate.

That being said I would agree that infusing diversity should have some benefits. You should be able to get that diversity with the same merit though. Or very minimal bend because merit matters most. At the end of the day you won't come close to population representation unless you change the merit completely.

[spurraider21]

no, its about acknowledging an ugly truth... because only then will we ever take steps to correct deep rooted issues. pretending problems dont exist is never going to lead us to solve those problems. do some people claim victimhood where its inapplicable? sure. that doesn't invalidate societal problems

that's like saying we should stop social security right now because some people commit social security fraud

[rmt]

Blacks are about the same percentage in this picture (2-3%) as at Google and Facebook. Women are about 43% in this picture compared to 31% (20% tech) at Google and 35% (19% tech) at Facebook. Maybe some should pile on the tech companies as they do the WH. I wonder why the discrepancy between 35% and 19% tech (women) at FB.

2017 numbers:

https://www.recode.net/2017/6/29/15896690/google-diversity-report-2017-for-2016-more-latinos-more-women-leadership

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/08/02/facebook-diversity-numbers.html

[Pavlov]

The White House is a tech company now?

You guys need new talking points. Tell Sean and Tucker to go back to the drawing board.

[rmt]

Why don't we apply those same arguments to the NBA? If diversity is so important, maybe we should have the token x% white, 14% black, y% hispanic and z% asian. Oh, yeah, because in sport, we want the very best based on their basketball skill, not the color of their skin.

[Pavlov]

OK, you must be able to dunk to get into the White House intern program.

If we're just going to make up requirements....

[Chris]

Why don't we apply those same arguments to the NBA? If diversity is so important, maybe we should have the token x% white, 14% black, y% hispanic and z% asian. Oh, yeah, because in sport, we want the very best based on their basketball skill, not the color of their skin.

That's how easy it is to dismantle that kind of nonsense. Simply reverse the roles. Well done.

[Expert]

DMC springs into action!

WHAT COLOR ARE YOU???????

YEAH!!!!


WHAT COLOR ARE YOU????


BUT WHAT COLOR ARE YOU?????


What color are you?

All these white people with fake outrage for another race.

:lol

[Pavlov]

All these white people with fake outrage for another race.

:lol:lol how long did it take for you to come up with that retort?

[Expert]

Last but not least we shouldn't forget the divisive propaganda that the left pumps out that would lower the numbers of qualified applicants from seeking a position.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx2oY0i0Wg4

What do you think is in the little raghead's backpack? You know damn well.

[Expert]

:lol how long did it take for you to come up with that retort?

I only needed to post it once to get your response though. Triggered.

[rmt]

And anyone think that maybe (since most blacks vote Democrat) that they just don't WANT to be interns in Trump's WH and didn't apply?

[Nathan89]

white privilege isn't some active force that keeps down minorities in every step of their lives.

more generally, it speaks to the fact that minorities tend to have additional obstacles and hurdles that white people simply dont have to account for. we've already seen experiments, for example, where identical job applications are submitted with different names, and the minority-named applicants get significantly less responses. white people in new york didnt really have to worry about stop and frisk when that was going on. white people are less likely to be profiled by law enforcement.

similar with sex. a guy walking to his car at night doesn't have to constantly scan his field of vision for potential threats... at least not nearly to the degree women have to. men sitting on subways or buses dont need to worry about creeps nearly as often.

these are just little things that can add up over a lifetime. but it's much less effective when you can look at individual circumstances, and say "oh that guy only succeeded because of white privilege." its more apparent on a grander scale, when you're able to look at statistics, rather than the micro scale

though if we're gonna look at a specific case a black/hispanic guy who underage drunk drove and killed people probably wouldn't have gotten away with an "affluenza" defense imho

Individual issues can open up conversation but blanket statements that serve no useful purpose is a non starter. It's really only meant to to divide us.

Your specific issues allow us to combat the problems. The experiments for job applicants allow companies to upgrade their HR and make better hiring decisions.

Stop and frisk was a nightmare policy for any American regardless of race. It certainly impacted minorities more often than whites. Regardless the policy should not have existed because it just allowed innocent people to get searched on a regular basis. So people agree with the policy because it was effective but that's no excuse to allow it. Illegally searching every house would also be effective but that is unlawful activity. I really hate when people defend that policy.

Guys are more likely to be victims in that type of situation. They should be on alert. Everybody has just made women for fearful of those situations.

On the topic of gender and prison sentences: "men receive 63% longer sentences on average than women do," and "[w]omen are…twice as likely to avoid incarceration if convicted." This gender gap is about six times as large as the racial disparity

I'm pretty sure white men also receive worse sentences than black women. Black men receive the worst of all. Point is blanket statements like "white privilege" and "white male privilege" are divisive and lead to no results. And they don't explain situations like this where "white male privilege" gets the benefits of worse sentences than white and black(I can't find statistics but I've seen them before) women.

If you look at the grander scale and attribute all the differences to racism then you've reached the wrong conclusion.

[Pavlov]

I only needed to post it once to get your response though. Triggered.Yes, you were triggered into demanding more personal information from everyone on the board. :lol

[Expert]

Yes, you were triggered into demanding more personal information from everyone on the board. :lol

*****SPOILER ALERT*****

Most of you are middle to lower middle class white men

Easy bet that none of you ever did shit for any other race other than fake outrage blogging

:lol Chumpy

[Pavlov]

*****SPOILER ALERT*****

Most of you are middle to lower middle class white men

Easy bet that none of you ever did shit for any other race other than fake outrage blogging

:lol Chumpy:lol another patented DMC narrative.

You live to tell us about ourselves.

[Expert]

:lol another patented DMC narrative.

You live to tell us about ourselves.

Ironic statement

I pegged you as the narrative creator and you try to play that card against me.

You're the most unoriginal poster here by a mile.

[Pavlov]

Ironic statementJust going by what you post.

You're free to deny it.

[Expert]

Just going by what you post.

You're free to deny it.
Are you white?

You're free to deny it.

[Pavlov]

Are you white?*****SPOILER ALERT*****

Yes, you were triggered into demanding more personal information from everyone on the board. :lol

[Expert]

Translation of Pavlov: Yes I am white, can we please move on?

[Pavlov]

Translation of Pavlov: Yes I am white, can we please move on?:lmao Now you're stealing Avante's shtick.

Keep going. Don't move on at all.

[Expert]

Dance forum monkey... dance all night long. :lol

[Pavlov]

Dance forum monkey... dance all night long. :lol:lol another stolen shtick.


Do another one. Don't move on at all.

[Expert]

I say "you like to create false narrative from tangents" and you respond with "you like to create false narratives"

I say "dance forum monkey" and you say "do another one"

I say "You're unoriginal" and you say "another stolen schtick"

You idolize me. I should have seen it before. You're weird.

[Nathan89]

"If there is anything worse than unfairness it is make believe fairness."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7FrBYi8pKA

[Pavlov]

I say "you like to create false narrative from tangents" and you respond with "you like to create false narratives"

I say "dance forum monkey" and you say "do another one"

You idolize me. I should have seen it before. You're weird.These are other people's shticks. You idolize them. I already knew you are weird. Your personal information archive proved that.

[Expert]

These are other people's shticks. You idolize them. I already knew you are weird. Your personal information archive proved that.

I pegged you already. Now you're calling me weird after I called you weird.

You really don't have anything. What was the year when you went into copycat mode?

[Pavlov]

I pegged you already. Now you're calling me weird after I called you weird.You're basing your false narrative on your message board personal information archive and you're trying to call someone else weird.

[Expert]

You're basing your false narrative on your message board personal information archive and you're trying to call someone else weird.

You keep trying to get a narrative going and you're salty that I won't let you. :lol


:lol like you've ever had an actual discussion here with your line of questioning and narrative schtick

Chumpbot.dll

[Pavlov]

Chumpbot.dll:lmao now you're projecting because I pointed out you have never had an actual take.

Like in this thread.

lol DMC

[resistanze]

:lmao Chris

[Expert]

:lmao now you're projecting because I pointed out you have never had an actual take.

Like in this thread.

lol DMC

You're lit tonight. Salt it pouring freely from every cavity.

And like salt, you're white and bitter.

It's obvious to anyone who's desperate enough to follow along that you just take whatever comes at you and project it back.

It's just a lazy shtick you adopted that allows you to have a response to anything.

[Pavlov]

You're lit tonight. Salt it pouring freely from every cavity.

And like salt, you're white and bitter.:lol You're just doing exactly what I say you do all the time. I'm laughing at that and at you.

That's why I'm encouraging you to keep it up.

[DarrinS]

White people :cry

[Expert]

In summary: White guy posts image of a group of people with a couple of people of a different race and acts like it's appalling to him.

Chumpdumper comes in and tries to make an all-nighter of it with petty bickering and copycatting, because I asked the OP about his own skin color.


White guilt on full display along with fake social justice and white knighting, and then there's the forum troll with zero life who posts 24 hours a day (Pavlov)

[DarrinS]

Yeah, Chump will eventually be aired on my 1000 lb life. :lol

Lol, white Chump

[Pavlov]

In summary: White guy posts image of a group of people with a couple of people of a different race and acts like it's appalling to him.

Chumpdumper comes in and tries to make an all-nighter of it with petty bickering and copycatting, because I asked the OP about his own skin color.


White guilt on full display along with fake social justice and white knighting, and then there's the forum troll with zero life who posts 24 hours a day (Pavlov)In summary, DMC didn't have a take and spent the day trying to get posters' personal information to put in his archive and use in his imagined narratives.

[Pavlov]

Yeah, Chump will eventually be aired on my 1000 lb life. :lol

Lol, white Chump
Speaking of no takes. :lol

[Expert]

In summary


In summary

[Pavlov]

If there's anything DMC hates, it's having his own shit shoved back in his face.

Sorry, maybe someday you'll find the respect you crave here.

[Aztecfan03]

Can't tell an Indian from an African.

One black person, one lndian, a bunch of white kids... what's missing white Chris?

There is at least 10 minorities there.

[Aztecfan03]

White people represent roughly 60% of the population.

Yet 98% of the interns for the Republican white house are white.

If your stupid ass doesn't see that as a problem, that is fine with this Democrat. :lol
You need some glasses?

[Nathan89]

Are you an idiot or are you incapable of seeing anything outside of clusters? There are other non white people in that picture.


There is at least 10 minorities there.

He's an idiot that can't see anything outside of the cluster. Which is the black and the Indian being right next to each other.

[Spurminator]

And anyone think that maybe (since most blacks vote Democrat) that they just don't WANT to be interns in Trump's WH and didn't apply?

You think one black person applied to be a White House intern?

Let's be real, these are all donors' kids. No sense in dissecting it any further than that.

[Expert]

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/p8-Bandow-a-20170412-870x673.jpg

Damn i flipped.

[Nathan89]

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/p8-Bandow-a-20170412-870x673.jpg

Damn i flipped.:lol

[Expert]

You think one black person applied to be a White House intern?

Let's be real, these are all donors' kids. No sense in dissecting it any further than that.
Of course, no evidence required, just conjecture and speculation dressed as wisdom.

[Pavlov]

Of course, no evidence required, just conjecture and speculation dressed as wisdom.:lol You're perfectly describing your narratives.

[Expert]

:lol You're perfectly describing your narratives.
:lol following me around sniffing my residues

[BD24]

Let's not forget the real important piece of information we got from this thread. Chris thinks that 14% and 2% is a trivial difference. :lol

[Spurminator]

Of course, no evidence required, just conjecture and speculation dressed as wisdom.

Typo smack in one thread, grievance over a clearly tongue-in-cheek post in another.

Somebody missed their midnight snack.

[Nathan89]

Let's not forget the real important piece of information we got from this thread. Chris thinks that 14% and 2% is a trivial difference. :lol

That's not very important tbh.

People thinking 14 percent should be represented is much more noteworthy.

[Blake]

That's not very important tbh.

People thinking 14 percent should be represented is much more noteworthy.

What color are you?

I'm asking for a friend

[RandomGuy]

LOL at you making all these assumptions based on a picture. How many qualified black people applied to be an intern? Do you think it's a significantly higher % than the % of black republicans?

No idea how many qualified black people applied. I only know how many were hired, assuming all the hires were present at the time of the picture, so I guess I did make ONE assumption.

Setting aside the 2%, which is less than a reasonable margin of error:

To cause the result of only white people getting hired, one of two things had to happen:

Only white people were seriously considered.
Only white people applied.

What are the implications, to you, of either?

[Nathan89]

What color are you?

I'm asking for a friend

Really not relevant. That's objectively an unreasonable outcome if you are judging on merit.

[RandomGuy]

That's not very important tbh.

People thinking 14 percent should be represented is much more noteworthy.

White people are only 60% of the US population. They were 98% of those hired as interns.

So its not really 14% we are talking about it is 40%.

One hundred and twenty million Americans have almost no representation in a major political party's administration (not just talking about interns here), who appears hell bent on shutting them out of the political process.

Seems like a small problem to me.

Do you find this to be a problem?

[Blake]

Really not relevant. That's objectively an unreasonable outcome if you are judging on merit.

So you're white. Ok thx.

[RandomGuy]

And anyone think that maybe (since most blacks vote Democrat) that they just don't WANT to be interns in Trump's WH and didn't apply?

Yes, I did think that. Why might that be a problem in and of itself?

Stretch yourself here.

[Nathan89]

No idea how many qualified black people applied. I only know how many were hired, assuming all the hires were present at the time of the picture, so I guess I did make ONE assumption.

Setting aside the 2%, which is less than a reasonable margin of error:

To cause the result of only white people getting hired, one of two things had to happen:

Only white people were seriously considered.
Only white people applied.

What are the implications, to you, of either?

It was a combination of merit and very few black people applying.

There are many explanations for that for fewer black people applying.

[SpursforSix]

No idea how many qualified black people applied. I only know how many were hired, assuming all the hires were present at the time of the picture, so I guess I did make ONE assumption.

Setting aside the 2%, which is less than a reasonable margin of error:

To cause the result of only white people getting hired, one of two things had to happen:

Only white people were seriously considered.
Only white people applied.

What are the implications, to you, of either?

Since there is a black person (and an Indian?) in the picture both statements are false.

But since there is a black person in the pick, I'm assuming that they didn't try to hire only whites.
So it leads me to also assume that not many black people applied.

You're trying to cover your ass and say that black people must feel disenfranchised with the current administration.
Which is probably true.

But it's clear that wasn't what you were going for when you said, "you will flip".

You were implying that the lack of hiring blacks for the position was blatantly racist.

[Nathan89]

White people are only 60% of the US population. They were 98% of those hired as interns.

So its not really 14% we are talking about it is 40%.

One hundred and twenty million Americans have almost no representation in a major political party's administration (not just talking about interns here), who appears hell bent on shutting them out of the political process.

Seems like a small problem to me.

Do you find this to be a problem?

No, not 98 percent. There are more than two non white people in that photo.

That's an input problem mostly. There is no reason more educated black and Hispanic people couldn't have views similar to Thomas Sowell which would place them in the Republican party. I guarantee someone like Thomas could get into office. The problem is the vast majority of black people have come to same conclusion as the solution.

[Nathan89]

So you're white. Ok thx.

Identify politics at its finest.

[Blake]

Identify politics at its finest.

Neh, I'm just poking fun at dmc for originally asking and poking fun at you for being the Chris type of white guy

[RandomGuy]

Only white people were seriously considered.
Only white people applied.

What are the implications, to you, of either?


It was a combination of merit and very few black people applying.

There are many explanations for that for fewer black people applying.

Kind of hard to tell what kind of "merit" was considered, innit? Melanin-based merit?

I didn't ask for the explanation, I asked for the implication. Critical thinking.

What does it mean, that 40% of the US population is not represented here?

[SpursforSix]

Kind of hard to tell what kind of "merit" was considered, innit? Melanin-based merit?

I didn't ask for the explanation, I asked for the implication. Critical thinking.

What does it mean, that 40% of the US population is not represented here?

After getting called out, you're now only worried about implications.

What were you trying to imply with "you will flip" and then only posting a picture?

Just like with all of your other threads, you're trying to create outrage instead of thoughtful discussion.

[RandomGuy]

No, not 98 percent. There are more than two non white people in that photo.

That's an input problem mostly. There is no reason more educated black and Hispanic people couldn't have views similar to Thomas Sowell which would place them in the Republican party. I guarantee someone like Thomas could get into office. The problem is the vast majority of black people have come to same conclusion as the solution.

Feel free to state what percentage you think it actually is, as if 2% or 4% is the real issue. (shrugs) It just isn't. Same point can be made.


•A commitment to the mission of the Trump Administration

Trump has made it abundantly clear whose interests he represents. People aren't stupid, as much as people like Chris would to claim otherwise.

[RandomGuy]

After getting called out, you're now only worried about implications.

What were you trying to imply with "you will flip" and then only posting a picture?

Just like with all of your other threads, you're trying to create outrage instead of thoughtful discussion.

You haven't "called me out". :lol

I have merely gotten to the actual point, and attempted to prompt some thoughtful discussion. Not sure why that bothers you. Do you not think we should have thoughtful discussion?

[SpursforSix]

You haven't "called me out". :lol

I have merely gotten to the actual point, and attempted to prompt some thoughtful discussion. Not sure why that bothers you. Do you not think we should have thoughtful discussion?

I never said I called you out.

and LOL at you "merely getting to the actual point". It took everyone else to get you to it.

LOL at this "bothering me". You're the one who "flipped" at the sight of the picture.

I think there should be thoughtful discussion.

But it doesn't really seem like you're ever after that.

Your first action in most of your threads (at least the ones I've bothered to open) is to attack whatever side you have a problem with.
Not to open up any meaningful or thoughtful discussion.
The fact you responded to this post instead of my other one (which I think made valid points) is pretty telling.

[RandomGuy]

I never said I called you out.

and LOL at you "merely getting to the actual point". It took everyone else to get you to it.

LOL at this "bothering me". You're the one who "flipped" at the sight of the picture.

I think there should be thoughtful discussion.

But it doesn't really seem like you're ever after that.

Your first action in most of your threads (at least the ones I've bothered to open) is to attack whatever side you have a problem with.
Not to open up any meaningful or thoughtful discussion.
The fact you responded to this post instead of my other one (which I think made valid points) is pretty telling.

It tells the story of a guy who scrolls through multiple posts from multiple people, and occasionally misses something. :lol

Since you think you made some valid points, let's unpack them.


Since there is a black person (and an Indian?) in the picture both statements are false.

Hence the qualifier "setting aside the two visible exceptions", which made the statement true. Your point, is therefore, not valid.



But since there is a black person in the pick, I'm assuming that they didn't try to hire only whites.
So it leads me to also assume that not many black people applied.

Two assumptions not really supported by any evidence, or statements provided about the actual hiring process form those involved.

Happy to grant both. I am sure they made sure to have some tokens, because even this White House (or whatever you call it :lol ) knows the optics of that look bad.

I am also sure that not many black people applied. The "must be dedicated to the Trump administration policies/agenda" would self-exclude a lot of people, as noted.


You're trying to cover your ass and say that black people must feel disenfranchised with the current administration.
Which is probably true.

I'm not trying to "cover my ass and say ..."

I am saying that, and asking you to think critically about why that is, and what it means. i.e. critical thinking.


But it's clear that wasn't what you were going for when you said, "you will flip".

You were implying that the lack of hiring blacks for the position was blatantly racist.

Am I?

Trump is a racist, and sets the "tone at the top". Whether the hiring decisions were blatantly racist... impossible to fully say without mind reading. We can only see the results of the hiring process, whatever the motivation.

The big problem is: you can't really eliminate blatant racism as a cause for the lack of diversity, can you?

Improbable, sure. Impossible? That is another matter, and that should worry anyone.

[SpursforSix]

It tells the story of a guy who scrolls through multiple posts from multiple people, and occasionally misses something. :lol

Since you think you made some valid points, let's unpack them.



Hence the qualifier "setting aside the two visible exceptions", which made the statement true. Your point, is therefore, not valid.



Two assumptions not really supported by any evidence, or statements provided about the actual hiring process form those involved.

Happy to grant both. I am sure they made sure to have some tokens, because even this White House (or whatever you call it :lol ) knows the optics of that look bad.

I am also sure that not many black people applied. The "must be dedicated to the Trump administration policies/agenda" would self-exclude a lot of people, as noted.



I'm not trying to "cover my ass and say ..."

I am saying that, and asking you to think critically about why that is, and what it means. i.e. critical thinking.



Am I?

Trump is a racist, and sets the "tone at the top". Whether the hiring decisions were blatantly racist... impossible to fully say without mind reading. We can only see the results of the hiring process, whatever the motivation.

The big problem is: you can't really eliminate blatant racism as a cause for the lack of diversity, can you?

Improbable, sure. Impossible? That is another matter, and that should worry anyone.

TL/DR

[DMC]

What color are you?

I'm asking for a friend

Now we know you're lying. You don't have any friends.

[Blake]

Now we know you're lying. You don't have any friends.

Oh busted. Yeah I was just making fun of you

[RandomGuy]

Let's be real, these are all donors' kids. No sense in dissecting it any further than that.

Again, a rather damning indictment.

[RandomGuy]

:cry randomguy answered the post I complained about him not answering :cry

How about the short version:

You were wrong on one point, and probably right about others, while still seeming missing the real point.

[SpursforSix]

How about the short version:

You were wrong on one point, and probably right about others, while still seeming missing the real point.

What's your real point? I'll let you know if I missed it.

[RandomGuy]

What's your real point? I'll let you know if I missed it.

Already got to it. Go back a page.

What does it mean?

[DMC]

Oh busted. Yeah I was just making fun of you

What color are you?

[DMC]

Again, a rather damning indictment.

That was tongue in cheek you fucking idiot

[RandomGuy]

That was tongue in cheek you fucking idiot

u mad brah?

Don't strain yourself thinking here. :lol

[DMC]

u mad brah?

Don't strain yourself thinking here. :lol

amirite? do you even lift? come at me brah.. etc

[SpursforSix]

Already got to it. Go back a page.

What does it mean?

Is this it?


White people are only 60% of the US population. They were 98% of those hired as interns.

So its not really 14% we are talking about it is 40%.

One hundred and twenty million Americans have almost no representation in a major political party's administration (not just talking about interns here), who appears hell bent on shutting them out of the political process.

Seems like a small problem to me.

Do you find this to be a problem?

[Chris]

lol RandomRacist with the thread backfire :lmao

[koriwhat]

You don't notice a pattern in the WHITE House intern program this year?

wgaf

[Blake]

What color are you?

Uh oh personal data collector going to work.

[RandomGuy]

Don't strain yourself thinking here.


amirite? do you even lift? come at me brah.. etc

:lol

[rmt]

How can anyone say that 98% are white? How do you know how many are hispanic? I don't know about the hispanics in TX but here in Miami, I can't tell who is hispanic until they open their mouth and even then, sometimes I can't tell, because the kids/teenagers/young people speak perfect English.

[DisAsTerBot]

How can anyone say that 98% are white? How do you know how many are hispanic? I don't know about the hispanics in TX but here in Miami, I can't tell who is hispanic until they open their mouth and even then, sometimes I can't tell, because the kids/teenagers/young people speak perfect English.

:rollin

[SpursforSix]

How can anyone say that 98% are white? How do you know how many are hispanic? I don't know about the hispanics in TX but here in Miami, I can't tell who is hispanic until they open their mouth and even then, sometimes I can't tell, because the kids/teenagers/young people speak perfect English.

I know. You pretty much have to wait until 1 or 2 in the afternoon and see if they're asleep.

[rmt]

Maybe for some here - it isn't ethnicity so much as the color of one's skin (white/brown).

[Blake]

Maybe for some here - it isn't ethnicity so much as the color of one's skin (white/brown).

Speculation is your thing.

[Aztecfan03]

Feel free to state what percentage you think it actually is, as if 2% or 4% is the real issue. (shrugs) It just isn't. Same point can be made.



Trump has made it abundantly clear whose interests he represents. People aren't stupid, as much as people like Chris would to claim otherwise.

At most 89% are white, but it could be a lot lower. You can't know for sure from a picture, especially a small one like that.

[ElNono]

Oh this thread is where that came about... I didn't flip, tbh...

Most of the better jobs come both from talent AND who you know. Merit is just part of the equation, tbh, there's also who you know.

You could be the most talented person in the world, and that normally attracts attention from people that know how to get the best out of you. It's a two way street.

Look, it's not that white privilege doesn't exist, but it's just not the reason. Our society just happens to be majority white, rich people happen to be majority white, and most of those people will connect with majority white.

Just like we come from a society where woman was stay at home, and man was the breadwinner, and it will take some time until society adjusts to women and men being compensated equally for the work they do.

It's ok, these changes take time, but they're slowly happening. In the meantime, if your skin is pale, and you're a man, enjoy the privilege while it lasts, tbh.

[RandomGuy]

How can anyone say that 98% are white? How do you know how many are hispanic? I don't know about the hispanics in TX but here in Miami, I can't tell who is hispanic until they open their mouth and even then, sometimes I can't tell, because the kids/teenagers/young people speak perfect English.

Ok, spitball it.

How many Hispanics do you think are in that picture? Remember the screening process requires someone to be "fully supportive of the President's agenda".

[RandomGuy]

Oh this thread is where that came about... I didn't flip, tbh...

Most of the better jobs come both from talent AND who you know. Merit is just part of the equation, tbh, there's also who you know.

You could be the most talented person in the world, and that normally attracts attention from people that know how to get the best out of you. It's a two way street.

Look, it's not that white privilege doesn't exist, but it's just not the reason. Our society just happens to be majority white, rich people happen to be majority white, and most of those people will connect with majority white.

Just like we come from a society where woman was stay at home, and man was the breadwinner, and it will take some time until society adjusts to women and men being compensated equally for the work they do.

It's ok, these changes take time, but they're slowly happening. In the meantime, if your skin is pale, and you're a man, enjoy the privilege while it lasts, tbh.

Read the requirements. whitehouse.gov

Pretty obvious reason that there wasn't much melanin in that picture.

[RandomGuy]

lol RandomRacist with the thread backfire :lmao

"backfire"

Not even the slightest. I meant to ask critical thinking type questions, I got to ask them. Frankly, that my questions were either not understood or ignored, simply supports my thesis that modern conservatism is intellectually and morally bankrupt.

What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?

[RandomGuy]

Is this it?

Already outlined it, and asked several questions multiple times. Got a lot of non-answers.

Pick any of the following to meaningfully answer [questions in italic for easy reference]:


To cause the result of only white people getting hired, one of two things had to happen:

Only white people were seriously considered.
Only white people applied.

What are the implications, to you, of either?

------------------------------------------------------------------


White people are only 60% of the US population. They were 98% of those hired as interns.

So its not really 14% we are talking about it is 40%.

One hundred and twenty million Americans have almost no representation in a major political party's administration (not just talking about interns here), who appears hell bent on shutting them out of the political process.

Seems like a small problem to me.

Do you find this to be a problem?

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------





And anyone think that maybe (since most blacks vote Democrat) that they just don't WANT to be interns in Trump's WH and didn't apply?

Yes, I did think that. Why might that be a problem in and of itself?

Stretch yourself here.

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It was a combination of merit and very few black people applying.

There are many explanations for that for fewer black people applying.
Kind of hard to tell what kind of "merit" was considered, innit? Melanin-based merit?

I didn't ask for the explanation, I asked for the implication. Critical thinking.

What does it mean, that 40% of the US population is not represented here?

[Blake]

Ok, spitball it.

How many Hispanics do you think are in that picture? Remember the screening process requires someone to be "fully supportive of the President's agenda".

You can Google it

[RandomGuy]

The fact you responded to this post instead of my other one (which I think made valid points) is pretty telling.


[Sorry I missed it, here is my detailed response to the "other" post]


TL/DR

:rolleyes

[ElNono]

Read the requirements. whitehouse.gov

Pretty obvious reason that there wasn't much melanin in that picture.

Your job to state why the requirements disenfranchise minorities for that job. At least two black people seemingly made the cut.

I'll reiterate the point that diversity is still not the norm, tbh... it's something we're still working towards as a society. Just not there yet. It's actually positive, IMO, that we're taking steps in that direction, because it means we recognize there's a problem.

[RandomGuy]

Your job to state why the requirements disenfranchise minorities for that job. At least two black people seemingly made the cut.

I'll reiterate the point that diversity is still not the norm, tbh... it's something we're still working towards as a society. Just not there yet. It's actually positive, IMO, that we're taking steps in that direction, because it means we recognize there's a problem.


Quote Originally Posted by third main "merit"

•A commitment to the mission of the Trump Administration

The above bullet point is directly had at whitehouse.gov

The concept here is "self-selection".

How many blacks or Hispanics are going to self identify with "A commitment to the mission of the Trump Administration", and apply in the first place?

I would not be surprised if the ratio of black applicants to those hired was 1:1

Hope that restatement of what I posted previously helps.

[KenMcCoy]

Why would you want to hire someone that doesn't have "A commitment to the mission of the Trump Administration?"

Or in the business world, a commitment to the mission of the company doing the hiring?

[rmt]

All this effort to push diversity should be put into shoring up the very reasons WHY (stumbling blocks) there is not diversity in the first place (in the education/employment areas - it's not just in politics but particularly in the tech field). IMO, that starts at a very young age - give (FREE to) every child (at age 2-3) some kind of device that "books on tape" or whatever new technology version of that is - can be played on and stock with age appropriate children's classics (and I don't mean the politically correct BS that's required in public schools). I'm talking about nursery rhymes, Dr. Seuss, traditional children's classics).

Continue to stock these books all the way up through middle school - Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, Twilight, etc - if they won't read, play them in the car. Just listening will help with vocabulary, grammar, sentence structure/writing, etc. Stop trying to teach critical thinking to elementary kids - instead develop a love of reading/books and enjoyment. Stress reading - comic books, cereal boxes, whatever results in volume reading. Concentrate on BASIC math - addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, fractions, decimals and percents. Do not try to dazzle PARENTS with statistics, graphs or whatever new-fangled terminology just to impress them. If you do just that in the elementary ages, you'll save millions of $ and IMO, have better educated kids - they will have the math foundation and reading skills to do ALL other subjects at a fraction of what is being spent now.

[RandomGuy]

At most 89% are white, but it could be a lot lower. You can't know for sure from a picture, especially a small one like that.

"at most"

On what do you base the determination of this percentage as an upper bound?

[RandomGuy]

Why would you want to hire someone that doesn't have "A commitment to the mission of the Trump Administration?"

Or in the business world, a commitment to the mission of the company doing the hiring?

You wouldn't. You are 1/2 way there. You have the what, but not the why.

Now what does that mean that so few people with melanin have such a commitment?

[Blake]

All this effort to push diversity should be put into shoring up the very reasons WHY (stumbling blocks) there is not diversity in the first place (in the education/employment areas - it's not just in politics but particularly in the tech field). IMO, that starts at a very young age - give (FREE to) every child (at age 2-3) some kind of device that "books on tape" or whatever new technology version of that is - can be played on and stock with age appropriate children's classics (and I don't mean the politically correct BS that's required in public schools). I'm talking about nursery rhymes, Dr. Seuss, traditional children's classics).

Continue to stock these books all the way up through middle school - Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, Twilight, etc - if they won't read, play them in the car. Just listening will help with vocabulary, grammar, sentence structure/writing, etc. Stop trying to teach critical thinking to elementary kids - instead develop a love of reading/books and enjoyment. Stress reading - comic books, cereal boxes, whatever results in volume reading. Concentrate on BASIC math - addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, fractions, decimals and percents. Do not try to dazzle PARENTS with statistics, graphs or whatever new-fangled terminology just to impress them. If you do just that in the elementary ages, you'll save millions of $ and IMO, have better educated kids - they will have the math foundation and reading skills to do ALL other subjects at a fraction of what is being spent now.

Yeah because doing basic math will help solve diversity issues.

What a terrible, poorly thought out wall of text

[RandomGuy]

Yes, I did think that. Why might that be a problem in and of itself?

Stretch yourself here.


All this effort to push diversity should be put into shoring up the very reasons WHY (stumbling blocks) there is not diversity in the first place (in the education/employment areas - it's not just in politics but particularly in the tech field). IMO, that starts at a very young age - give (FREE to) every child (at age 2-3) some kind of device that "books on tape" or whatever new technology version of that is - can be played on and stock with age appropriate children's classics (and I don't mean the politically correct BS that's required in public schools). I'm talking about nursery rhymes, Dr. Seuss, traditional children's classics).

Continue to stock these books all the way up through middle school - Harry Potter, Percy Jackson, Twilight, etc - if they won't read, play them in the car. Just listening will help with vocabulary, grammar, sentence structure/writing, etc. Stop trying to teach critical thinking to elementary kids - instead develop a love of reading/books and enjoyment. Stress reading - comic books, cereal boxes, whatever results in volume reading. Concentrate on BASIC math - addition, subtraction, multiplication, division, fractions, decimals and percents. Do not try to dazzle PARENTS with statistics, graphs or whatever new-fangled terminology just to impress them. If you do just that in the elementary ages, you'll save millions of $ and IMO, have better educated kids - they will have the math foundation and reading skills to do ALL other subjects at a fraction of what is being spent now.

You answered the question "what would you change in the current educational system to make it better?", which wasn't really what I asked.

I was wondering about critical thinking question based on the provided picture.

Again:

Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?

[SpursforSix]

You answered the question "what would you change in the current educational system to make it better?", which wasn't really what I asked.

I was wondering about critical thinking question based on the provided picture.

Again:

Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?

Does it have to do with the NBA or sprinters?

[rmt]

Yeah because doing basic math will help solve diversity issues.

What a terrible, poorly thought out wall of text

You don't think that would eventually help with diversity issues at Google, FB and other STEM companies?

[rmt]

Yeah because doing basic math will help solve diversity issues.

What a terrible, poorly thought out wall of text

Maybe you should do the opposite of my terrible, poorly thought out wall of text with your kids.

[RandomGuy]

Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?


Does it have to do with the NBA or sprinters?

I am not looking for any specific answer, other than one which you might think a little. If critical thinking isn't your thing, that is ok. You can demur.

[rmt]

You answered the question "what would you change in the current educational system to make it better?", which wasn't really what I asked.

I was wondering about critical thinking question based on the provided picture.

Again:

Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?

I was not answering what you asked.

[TeyshaBlue]

"backfire"

Not even the slightest. I meant to ask critical thinking type questions, I got to ask them. Frankly, that my questions were either not understood or ignored, simply supports my thesis that modern conservatism is intellectually and morally bankrupt.

What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?

You are not even remotely interested in a discussion unless it's what you want to hear. Positing critical thinking questions upon suppositions is beyond asinine.

BTW, this is no surprise to anyone with a room temp IQ. Republicans have never made significant inroads with minorities. It's only been the status for the last 80 years or so.

Of course, it's important now that you're pissed beyond reason that the Dems couldn't mount an effective presidential campaign.

I've watched you raise the forcefield of derision more in the last year than the entire time I've read your posts. Frankly, it's been hard to watch. You're better than this...or you were.

[Chucho]

You are not even remotely interested in a discussion unless it's what you want to hear. Positing critical thinking questions upon suppositions is beyond asinine.

BTW, this is no surprise to anyone with a room temp IQ. Republicans have never made significant inroads with minorities. It's only been the status for the last 80 years or so.

Of course, it's important now that you're pissed beyond reason that the Dems couldn't mount an effective presidential campaign.

I've watched you raise the forcefield of derision more in the last year than the entire time I've read your posts. Frankly, it's been hard to watch. You're better than this...or you were.

Stone cold.

[Chris]

Maybe you should do the opposite of my terrible, poorly thought out wall of text with your kids.

He has a tough time processing information so he lashes out in various ways. Doubt he understood more than a sentence of that post. Poor fella has anger issues as well. I still pray for him.

[ElNono]

The above bullet point is directly had at whitehouse.gov

The concept here is "self-selection".

How many blacks or Hispanics are going to self identify with "A commitment to the mission of the Trump Administration", and apply in the first place?

I would not be surprised if the ratio of black applicants to those hired was 1:1

Hope that restatement of what I posted previously helps.

How many? 1, 2, 10, 100? It's an unquantifiable question.

Even if only 15% of Asian-Americans voted for Trump, that's still almost 2.5 million people that would match that criteria.

[Blake]

He has a tough time processing information so he lashes out in various ways. Doubt he understood more than a sentence of that post. Poor fella has anger issues as well. I still pray for him.

Poor fella asks an invisible friend for help

[Chris]

Poor fella asks an invisible friend for help

Blake you should watch Stephen Dollins on the youtubes when you get some free time if you want to know where I'm coming from.

[Nathan89]

What are the implications, to you, of either?


Last but not least we shouldn't forget the divisive propaganda that the left pumps out that would lower the numbers of qualified applicants from seeking a position.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nx2oY0i0Wg4

981051141147344896

Seems the implication is the left is using fear mongering and bullying tactics very effectively.

[AaronY]

Damn. Nathan still PMSing

[KenMcCoy]

Now what does that mean that so few people with melanin have such a commitment?

It means that people with melanin don't pursue careers in Law or Political Science (fields of study that are likely to apply for political internships).

Lawyers with melanin in 2017: 4.28% (https://www.nalp.org/uploads/2017NALPReportonDiversityinUSLawFirms.pdf)

APSA Members with melanin in 2017: 3.56% (http://www.apsanet.org/Portals/54/diversity%20and%20inclusion%20prgms/DIV%20reports/Diversity%20Report%20Executive%20-%20Final%20Draft%20-%20Web%20version.pdf?ver=2018-03-29-134427-467)

So, if half of that population is Conservative, we should expect to see 2% of Trump interns with melanin. Which is about what we see. I count 1.5/91 people with melanin.

Are you trying to say that Trump is the reason so few people with melanin pursue careers in Law or Political Science?

[Blake]

Blake you should watch Stephen Dollins on the youtubes when you get some free time if you want to know where I'm coming from.

Poor fella needs someone else on the YouTube to speak for him

[RandomGuy]

I was not answering what you asked.

I noticed.

Why would you not want to answer my question?


( Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself? )

[boutons_deux]

Seems the implication is the left is using fear mongering and bullying tactics very effectively.

"left"? I let blacks handle the black-on-black questions.

Black Repugs are even more deplorable than white Repugs, because the Repug party is white male supremacist racist to its core, has been for decades, and has done nothing good for blacks, and plenty of bad.

[RandomGuy]

What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?


You are not even remotely interested in a discussion unless it's what you want to hear. Positing critical thinking questions upon suppositions is beyond asinine.

BTW, this is no surprise to anyone with a room temp IQ. Republicans have never made significant inroads with minorities. It's only been the status for the last 80 years or so.

Of course, it's important now that you're pissed beyond reason that the Dems couldn't mount an effective presidential campaign.

I've watched you raise the forcefield of derision more in the last year than the entire time I've read your posts. Frankly, it's been hard to watch. You're better than this...or you were.

What I am interested here is in getting people to think a bit outside their box. I have been trying here to be careful, patient and respectful.

You of all conservatives here should understand critical thinking. Let's acknowledge that yes, "Republicans have never made significant inroads with minorities. It's only been the status for the last 80 years or so."

What does it mean for the country?

[RandomGuy]

Now what does that mean that so few people with melanin have such a commitment?


It means that people with melanin don't pursue careers in Law or Political Science (fields of study that are likely to apply for political internships).

Lawyers with melanin in 2017: 4.28% (https://www.nalp.org/uploads/2017NALPReportonDiversityinUSLawFirms.pdf)

APSA Members with melanin in 2017: 3.56% (http://www.apsanet.org/Portals/54/diversity%20and%20inclusion%20prgms/DIV%20reports/Diversity%20Report%20Executive%20-%20Final%20Draft%20-%20Web%20version.pdf?ver=2018-03-29-134427-467)

So, if half of that population is Conservative, we should expect to see 2% of Trump interns with melanin. Which is about what we see. I count 1.5/91 people with melanin.

Are you trying to say that Trump is the reason so few people with melanin pursue careers in Law or Political Science?

That again, is a statement of some fact, i.e. "that people with melanin don't pursue careers in Law or Political Science", and not really what such a thing implies, and certainly not relevant to the subject of interns at the current White House.


•Are currently enrolled in an undergraduate or graduate degree program at a college, community college, or university (two-to-four year institution).

•Have graduated from an undergraduate or graduate degree program at a college, community college, or university (two-to-four year institution) no more than two years before the internship program start date.
•Are a veteran of the United States Armed Forces who possesses a high school diploma or its equivalent and has served on active duty–for any length of time–in the two years preceding the internship program start date.

Now, please, try once more:

What does it mean that so few young people of color are interning at the current White House? What are the implications, both present and future?

[RandomGuy]

Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?

[TeyshaBlue criticism of RG personally]


Stone cold.

Fair enough. The question remains, and it is perfectly fair and relevant to ask, regardless of any of my personal faults.

That you can't, or seemingly won't answer it is not on me. It is on you.

Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?

[RandomGuy]

To cause the result of only white people getting hired, one of two things had to happen:

Only white people were seriously considered.
Only white people applied.

What are the implications, to you, of either?



981051141147344896

Seems the implication is the left is using fear mongering and bullying tactics very effectively.

You are addressing the possible cause of the disparity, but not what it ultimately mean to effectively only have white kids as Interns at the current White house.

What does that mean for the country? For the Democratic party? For the Republican party?

[Blake]

Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?

[TeyshaBlue criticism of RG personally]



Fair enough. The question remains, and it is perfectly fair and relevant to ask, regardless of any of my personal faults.

That you can't, or seemingly won't answer it is not on me. It is on you.

Why might the lack of diversity in the Trump internship program be a problem in and of itself?

What's your answer to your question

[KenMcCoy]

Is the lack of diversity in the presidential white house internship program specifically one that the Trump administration is facing?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rqW-SMCpWqg/WIHAY4pMjwI/AAAAAAAAXQs/mWX0hFwcGNE1Qfb5d6equrWoXo-zlNFdwCLcB/s640/White-House-interns.jpg

Only 8-10% for Obama! How come it wasn't representative of the melanin peopled population?!?! How many times did you flip when you saw this picture? What did the lack of diversity mean for the country past, present, or future?

[Expert]

981051141147344896

Seems the implication is the left is using fear mongering and bullying tactics very effectively.
Anytime they put a female into a panel discussion she tries to browbeat everyone else by attitude yapping over any points being made.

[Expert]

You are addressing the possible cause of the disparity, but not what it ultimately mean to effectively only have white kids as Interns at the current White house.

What does that mean for the country? For the Democratic party? For the Republican party?

This is what happens when RG goes off linky posting script these days.... meaningless open ended questions who's answers receive disapproval as if it's a test "guess what I am thinking".

Stick to posting regurgitated confirmation bias shit, RG.

You cannot know what the lack of diversity means when there was never significant diversity to begin with. If Obama had diversity, are those interns now senators and congressmen? Do they affect policy? If not, what's your fucking point?

[Blake]

Anytime they put a female into a panel discussion she tries to browbeat everyone else by attitude yapping over any points being made.

Kind of like posters here that like to go straight to the ad hominem instead of respond to points being made

[TeyshaBlue]

What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?



What I am interested here is in getting people to think a bit outside their box. I have been trying here to be careful, patient and respectful.

You of all conservatives here should understand critical thinking. Let's acknowledge that yes, "Republicans have never made significant inroads with minorities. It's only been the status for the last 80 years or so."

What does it mean for the country?

In the long-term not much. American society is not this monolithic structure made of concrete. It is dynamic, malleable, plastic. A better description would be silly putty which is illustrative on many levels. :lol
The continued marginalization of the GOP will be the end product of continued lack of minority participation or support. The impact on the popullance as a whole, is negligible in the long term. Short-term, it can give rise to feelings of disenfranchisement but results like this are largely self-correcting.

[RandomGuy]

What's your answer to your question

I will refrain from answering it for now. I prefer not affecting others' answers one way or another.

[Blake]

I will refrain from answering it for now. I prefer not affecting others' answers one way or another.

Smh

[RandomGuy]

What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?
...

[re-stated]

What does it mean for the country?


In the long-term not much. American society is not this monolithic structure made of concrete. It is dynamic, malleable, plastic. A better description would be silly putty which is illustrative on many levels. :lol
The continued marginalization of the GOP will be the end product of continued lack of minority participation or support. The impact on the popullance as a whole, is negligible in the long term. Short-term, it can give rise to feelings of disenfranchisement but results like this are largely self-correcting.

Thank you. Out of all the regulars here that self-identify as conservative, I would expect you to be the first to answer the question meaningfully and directly.

I am not sure I fully understand you though, what do you mean by "continued marginalization of the GOP"?

[RandomGuy]

Smh

If my goal is to get others to stretch themselves and think, why would I spoon feed them answer formats?

If my goal is to see what and how people think, wouldn't any answer I give affect that?

[TeyshaBlue]

What does it mean that almost all the white house interns were white?
...

[re-stated]

What does it mean for the country?



Thank you. Out of all the regulars here that self-identify as conservative, I would expect you to be the first to answer the question meaningfully and directly.

I am not sure I fully understand you though, what do you mean by "continued marginalization of the GOP"?

There's no question that the Republican base is shrinking. Current GOP leadership will continue to magnify that trend. Unless there are some major shifts with the moderate voices within the GOP, the party will be largely toothless in a decade or so.

[Blake]

If my goal is to get others to stretch themselves and think, why would I spoon feed them answer formats?

If my goal is to see what and how people think, wouldn't any answer I give affect that?

You're acting like there's a text book answer here and you'd the one holding the answer key.

Can't imagine many people wanting to play your condescending game

[RandomGuy]

What does it mean that so few young people of color are interning at the current White House? What are the implications, both present and future?


Is the lack of diversity in the presidential white house internship program specifically one that the Trump administration is facing?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rqW-SMCpWqg/WIHAY4pMjwI/AAAAAAAAXQs/mWX0hFwcGNE1Qfb5d6equrWoXo-zlNFdwCLcB/s640/White-House-interns.jpg

Only 8-10% for Obama! How come it wasn't representative of the melanin peopled population?!?! How many times did you flip when you saw this picture? What did the lack of diversity mean for the country past, present, or future?

Is 8-10% more than 2%? Why fewer this year than in the year you pictured?

8-10% of what ethnicity? Did you include non-African Americans? Asians? Hispanic? How did you reach this number?

What does it mean that so few young people of color are interning at the current White House?

We have determined that self-selection might be a cause. Why is that important?

[RandomGuy]

You're acting like there's a text book answer here and you'd the one holding the answer key.

Can't imagine many people wanting to play your condescending game

I have said there isn't any real "textbook" answer. I have my answer, but that is not gong to be everybody's answer. My goal is to get people to think, and a sense of curiosity.

What specifically is condescending here?

[Blake]

My goal is to get people to think, and a sense of curiosity.

What specifically is condescending here?

Uh...yeah

[RandomGuy]

There's no question that the Republican base is shrinking. Current GOP leadership will continue to magnify that trend. Unless there are some major shifts with the moderate voices within the GOP, the party will be largely toothless in a decade or so.

So a party that seems to dissuade a large portion of young people from participating faces some demographic challenges. Current data on age and political views would seem to support that.

As a Democrat, I think a "toothless GOP" is a bad thing. Healthy democracy requires more than one effective party, in my opinion. I would agree that there needs to be a shift in moderation for the GOP.

Any ideas as to how to do that?

[RandomGuy]

Uh...yeah

(shrugs)

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, Blake. I have gone out of my way to NOT be condescending. I have been fair and insistent.

Is that what you mean?

[SpursforSix]

(shrugs)

What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence, Blake. I have gone out of my way to NOT be condescending. I have been fair and insistent.

Is that what you mean?

I feel like this thread didn't go the way you wanted and now you're dug in and acting like you planned it turn into whatever this is.

[RandomGuy]

What does that mean for the country? For the Democratic party? For the Republican party?



This is what happens when RG goes off linky posting script these days.... meaningless open ended questions who's answers receive disapproval as if it's a test "guess what I am thinking".

Stick to posting regurgitated confirmation bias shit, RG.

You cannot know what the lack of diversity means when there was never significant diversity to begin with. If Obama had diversity, are those interns now senators and congressmen? Do they affect policy? If not, what's your fucking point?

It isn't a test, it is an invitation for you to think and discuss something.

It would seem to me that you can know what the lack of diversity means, even when there was never significant diversity to begin with, which I am not sure is the case.

How do you know that there never was "any significant diversity to begin with"?

[RandomGuy]

I feel like this thread didn't go the way you wanted and now you're dug in and acting like you planned it turn into whatever this is.

You are free to think/feel what you want, as we all are.

You don't seem to want to answer that particular question, or any of the others relating to the OP. Why is that?

[SpursforSix]

You are free to think/feel what you want, as we all are.

You don't seem to want to answer that particular question, or any of the others relating to the OP. Why is that?

I believe I did offer an answer. As have others. You seem to have your own answer that you're not willing to share. So there's not
much point.

[Blake]

Very relevant for making the point that the Trump party is overwhelmingly white, with all that entails. Feel free to say why the fact that the Trump white house has pretty much exclusively hired one color over all others isn't relevant.

You asked here right off the bat for someone else to disprove your claim of your op being relevant.

You failed to describe what "all that entails" means and instead told everyone else that they need to use critical thinking skills.

You never showed what the appropriate number of minorities should be, assuming that there is one. .....which I'm not sure there is.

Way too many variables in an op that's ultimately not a big deal because there's >0 black guys that are there.

[DarrinS]

All workplaces should look like a perfect pie chart of US demographics.

Except sports.

[Chris]

Kind of like posters here that like to go straight to the ad hominem instead of respond to points being made

You add nothing to the conversation but you negative cynicism. Poor fella.

[SnakeBoy]

I will refrain from answering it for now. I prefer not affecting others' answers one way or another.

In other words your going to continue to pretend there is some profound meaning to yet another stupid thread you've started.

[SnakeBoy]

There's no question that the Republican base is shrinking. Current GOP leadership will continue to magnify that trend. Unless there are some major shifts with the moderate voices within the GOP, the party will be largely toothless in a decade or so.

This has been conventional thinking for a decade or more and yet during that time the GOP has managed to find itself with the most power they've had in a century.

[Blake]

You add nothing to the conversation but you negative cynicism. Poor fella.

When you lie, butcher facts and resort to pimping Chuck Woolery, there's not much to discuss.

[KenMcCoy]

As a Democrat, I think a "toothless GOP" is a bad thing. Healthy democracy requires more than one effective party, in my opinion. I would agree that there needs to be a shift in moderation for the GOP.

I finally agree with you on something. A strong conservative party (or opposition party) is essential for a proper democracy. It's why so many installed democracies eventually fail.


Any ideas as to how to do that?

I think you're already seeing a shift to moderation with Trump. He's definitely not a true conservative. He spends big (not conservative) and I don't believe that he is a hard line pro-life/anti-gay conservative. There are a few things I think that, apart from Trump, will help make a more moderate GOP:

1) The decline of the Evangelical base, down to 17% in 2016, will create less pandering to this portion of the population (abortion/marriage).
2) The growth of the Hispanic population and their increased socio-economic status
a) Hispanic households with income over $50K increased to 48% in 2014 from 33% in 2000. (http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2016/hispanic-influence-reaches-new-heights-in-the-us.html)
b) As people, race not considered, make more money they become more conservative. (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-mcelwee/new-evidence-that-the-ric_b_7153396.html)
3) Historically low African-American unemployment numbers, thanks to Obama, which will also increase the wealth and conservatism of African-Americans. (See above)

[Nathan89]

There's no question that the Republican base is shrinking. Current GOP leadership will continue to magnify that trend. Unless there are some major shifts with the moderate voices within the GOP, the party will be largely toothless in a decade or so.

The left going off the deep end is starting to push people away.

[KenMcCoy]

^^ That too!

[Blake]

The left going off the deep end is starting to push people away.

Or really Trump going off the deep end is starting to push people away from the right

[Chris]

Or really Trump going off the deep end is starting to push people away from the right

Yeah that's why they elected him and he's at 50% in recent polls. Dumb ass.

[Blake]

Yeah that's why they elected him and he's at 50% in recent polls. Dumb ass.

"April 05, 2018 - 08:29 AM EDTPoll: Trump approval drops to record low"

http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/381748-trump-approval-drops-to-record-low-in-march


Poor Chris

[KenMcCoy]

Yaay! 51%

All these polls are horrible. Who answers their phone nowadays?

Every point counts! Trump tweets out a poll which shows he now has a 51 per cent approval rating... his best in a year

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5580361/Every-point-counts-Trump-retweets-poll-shows-51-percent-approval-rating.html#ixzz5Bpf1utpY
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[Blake]

Yaay! 51%

All these polls are horrible.

Right because throwaway anecdotes about the Left pushing people away are much better

[rmt]

I finally agree with you on something. A strong conservative party (or opposition party) is essential for a proper democracy. It's why so many installed democracies eventually fail.



I think you're already seeing a shift to moderation with Trump. He's definitely not a true conservative. He spends big (not conservative) and I don't believe that he is a hard line pro-life/anti-gay conservative. There are a few things I think that, apart from Trump, will help make a more moderate GOP:

1) The decline of the Evangelical base, down to 17% in 2016, will create less pandering to this portion of the population (abortion/marriage).
2) The growth of the Hispanic population and their increased socio-economic status
a) Hispanic households with income over $50K increased to 48% in 2014 from 33% in 2000. (http://www.nielsen.com/us/en/insights/news/2016/hispanic-influence-reaches-new-heights-in-the-us.html)
b) As people, race not considered, make more money they become more conservative. (https://www.huffingtonpost.com/sean-mcelwee/new-evidence-that-the-ric_b_7153396.html)
3) Historically low African-American unemployment numbers, thanks to Obama, which will also increase the wealth and conservatism of African-Americans. (See above)

2b. Because they don't want their money re-distributed and given to whoever is the flavor of the month with the liberals.
3. Surely you jest - whatever did Obama do to get credit for that.

[Gummi Clutch]

I see about 92 people with the women represented well. I see one for sure (probably 2) 'african americans' which represent close to 14% of the population represented proportionately. I never would have looked for those things unless you pointed them out. Proof that the Left will create imaginary enemies when they are losing badly.Your trailer trash math coming through :lmao

[Chris]

:cry why are the mods deleting my threads :cry


Dummi Clutch :lol

[Expert]

It isn't a test, it is an invitation for you to think and discuss something.

It would seem to me that you can know what the lack of diversity means, even when there was never significant diversity to begin with, which I am not sure is the case.

How do you know that there never was "any significant diversity to begin with"?
https://cdn-s3.si.com/styles/marquee_large_2x/s3/images/team-usa-olympic-mens-basketball-preview.jpg

What does the lack of diversity mean in this photo?

"But, we're taking the best of the best only, no diversity quotas!"

[Nathan89]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJ8huLUzxQE

Relevant video for anyone thinking shooting for equality of outcome is a wise goal.

[Nathan89]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enIb4SxINos

Watch it all or go to 8:20

Another lesson for "equality of outcome" goal setters at 8:20.

[Aztecfan03]

"at most"

On what do you base the determination of this percentage as an upper bound?

Since I am pretty sure there at least 10 minorites

[RandomGuy]

It isn't a test, it is an invitation for you to think and discuss something.

It would seem to me that you can know what the lack of diversity means, even when there was never significant diversity to begin with, which I am not sure is the case.

How do you know that there never was "any significant diversity to begin with [at the white house internship program"?


https://cdn-s3.si.com/styles/marquee_large_2x/s3/images/team-usa-olympic-mens-basketball-preview.jpg

What does the lack of diversity mean in this photo?

"But, we're taking the best of the best only, no diversity quotas!"

Those aren't white house interns. Your question is a rather transparent attempt to dodge a fairly asked question. If you won't extend the good faith and honesty to me to meaningfully attempt to answer my original question, I will not answer yours. Quid pro quo. The only thing you have accomplished is making yourself seem evasive.

Do you think that changing the subject, and ignoring a fair question is indicative of a strong argument?

How do you know that there never was "any significant diversity to begin with [at the white house internship program]"?

[RandomGuy]

You asked here right off the bat for someone else to disprove your claim of your op being relevant.

You failed to describe what "all that entails" means and instead told everyone else that they need to use critical thinking skills.

You never showed what the appropriate number of minorities should be, assuming that there is one. .....which I'm not sure there is.

Way too many variables in an op that's ultimately not a big deal because there's >0 black guys that are there.

How exactly is my post condescending?

The white house internship program is relevant because it reflects the priorities of the executive branch, and by extension the party of that president. It is further relevant because it is an opportunity to train the next generation in government.

Not fully detailing what "all that entails" means isn't a failure, simply because you say it is. I reject that out of hand. It means exactly what I meant, and was simply a shorthand. If you want it elucidated, I guess I can, but would simply ask you as well, what you think it means.

My point, and my questions don't hinge on any specific "appropriate number of minorities" is. On that we can agree. I would go so far as to say that any administration that is almost exclusively white is a problem.

As for "not a big deal", I would disagree for the relevant reasons above, as well as the others outlined here.

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All workplaces should look like a perfect pie chart of US demographics.

Except sports.

This is a strawman argument, essentially a lie.

Why did you lie Darrin? Do you think your position is so weak that it requires lying?

[RandomGuy]

The left going off the deep end is starting to push people away.

Progressive policies are overwhelmingly favored by moderates of no party affiliation.

Quick example, out of many polls showing this:
http://inthesetimes.com/article/19816/progressives-are-the-new-silent-majority

Provably wrong, and easily so.

Or alternately:

I call bullshit. Prove your statement to any reasonable degree.