US breaks Iran deal

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"France, in particular, stands to lose significant business dealings with Iran as a result of the reinstated sanctions.

Losing deals to provide 100 new Airbus airliners, and

opening a $5bn oil exploration project

with Iran means real world economic consequences for a close ally of the United States."

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44072046

Repugs LYING to fuck over cheese-eating surrender monkeys? what's not for REPUGS to love?

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Germany Exports to Iran

https://d3fy651gv2fhd3.cloudfront.net/charts/germany-exports-to-iran.png?s=bdexpirna&v=201707031755v



https://tradingeconomics.com/germany/exports-to-iran

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Russian companies to reap benefits after US withdrawal from Iran nuclear agreement

Moscow remains less exposed to the economic consequences of US sanctions than Europe and its companies could even benefit from the move.

“The deal and the lifting of sanctions in 2015 marked the return of European business to Iran. But it’s unlikely they can keep doing business today, giving room to Russia,”

“Russia can now go ahead at full speed,”

Russia and Iran once had difficult relations, but have seen ties improve since the end of the Cold War.

While Tehran was shunned by the international community in the 1990s, Moscow agreed to resume the construction of the Bushehr Iranian nuclear plant that Germany had abandoned.

Russia and Iran sought to strengthen their business ties long before the 2015 agreement, despite international sanctions in place.

“European companies are more exposed to the US market, they must comply not to get into trouble. The Russians are less (exposed) and have less to lose,”

Russian companies continued to work in Iran “without any fuss” even when the sanctions were in place.

“They are used to working within legal and economic constraints. The US has systematically forced Iran to turn more towards Russia and China.”

On a visit to Tehran on Thursday, Russian deputy foreign minister Sergei Ryabkov said the two countries intended to continue “all round economic cooperation.”

“We are not scared of sanctions,”

“Russia wants to sell steel, transport infrastructure and other manufactured goods to Iran. The less competition from the US and the EU, the better,”

Russia had a “real role to play” in Iran’s energy and electricity sectors.

Another positive sign for the Russian economy is the rise in oil prices, which rose to their highest level since 2014 after the US withdrawal from the Iran deal.

For the Russian state, whose finances remain highly dependent on natural resources, this is a significant source of income

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/russian-companies-reap-benefits-us-withdrawal-iran-nuclear-agreement/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Trash is a fuckng traitor, as Pootin's and Israel's puppet

[Winehole23]

The US just willingly gave up its best chance to influence Iranian politics and society, while strengthening the hand of the hardliners and bringing us closer to war -- but maybe that was the whole point.

[Winehole23]

Doesn't this undercut DJT's bid to rein in North Korea? Reneging on this deal undermines US credibility..

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Doesn't this undercut DJT's bid to rein in North Korea? Reneging on this deal undermines US credibility..

the world has concluded that Trash is LIAR / deal breaker / back stabber / tweeter freak in all directions, has lost all credibility already.

For every Pres power he can find, he's gonna use it, gratuitously, to fuck over somebody somewhere, esp if it means fucking over Obama.

[Chris]

The US just willingly gave up its best chance to influence Iranian politics and society

That's none of our business.


while strengthening the hand of the hardliners and bringing us closer to war

Care to expound on this vague sweeping statement?


-- but maybe that was the whole point.

It wasn't. Trump obviously wants peace through negotiation, not war.

[Winehole23]

Removing sanctions is mainly paid for by ordinary Iranians, undermines the secular government that negotiated with us, and reinforces the hardliners' insistence that the US can't be trusted in negotiations.

Iran was in compliance with the deal; this result gives them an incentive to restart enrichment.

[Winehole23]

That's none of our business.neither is regime change

[Winehole23]

unless of course, you're a humanitarian internationalist

[Winehole23]

or a neocon POS

[Winehole23]

what were the vital US interests threatened under the P5+1 framework and what vital US interests are served by walking away from it and reimposing sanctions?

[TSA]

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[Pavlov]

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:lol that's basically admitting it's bullshit.

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After the Iran deal: A foreign policy built on arrogance, ignorance and sheer desperation

American foreign policy has long trended toward dark places. Under this administration, that has accelerated

https://media.salon.com/2018/05/trump-desert-island-620x412.jpg

“This moment will be seen by historians as a key marker in U.S. decline as a world power,” the former British diplomat wrote the day after the White House announcement.

after the Senate hearings Wednesday on Gina Haspel’s nomination as director of the CIA: “I think this might lead to some careful re-evaluation as to how one continues to think of the dear old US of A.”

The complacency of American life begins to assume a pitiful triviality — providing one is sentient, has a conscience and is not paid to think in conformity with orthodoxy. America has long headed for trouble, of course. Last week it took a very steep step further down into it. It is getting too dark to see a way out of this.

America grows ever more indifferent to alliances other than those dependent on a common adversary. Friendships with other nations seem no longer to matter, or even whether America is admired or respected.

All signs indicate we now enter that

late-imperial phase when power alone, raw power, is all we have to show the world.

In love, politics, diplomacy, war and much else, a lot of destruction is wreaked when the desperate are defending themselves at a late stage in their time.

Brace yourselves.

The worst is yet to come. It is not just the spectacle of a gaggle of cops yanking a 79-year-old with a dislocated shoulder into handcuffs.

It is that Uncle Ray was all alone.

Where is everybody?

The cops kept shouting at McGovern, “Stop resisting! Stop resisting!”

What a line. Most of us got that done a long time ago.

https://www.salon.com/2018/05/13/after-the-iran-deal-a-foreign-policy-built-on-arrogance-ignorance-and-sheer-desperation/

As Trash and his mafiya reduce America's "soft power" and influence, guess who gains? yep, Trash's BFF Pootin, just as Pootin has requested of the compromised traitor Trash.

[Pelicans78]

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Same president who supports Saudi Arabia. They're no better than Iran.

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Same president who supports Saudi Arabia. They're no better than Iran.

Saudi Arabia's untouchable Wahhabi sect is a huge exporter, financer of terrorism, but Trash has sold and will sell $10Bs more arms to SA.

Trash violates the Iran agreement, but does nothing about any Iranian support for terrorism. Will Trash embargo Iranian oil exports?

[Chris]

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Lock up this Skull and Bones motherfucker already.

[Nathan89]

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Pathetic. Game planning against your country.:lmao

[Chris]

Pathetic. Game planning against your country.:lmao

Just shows how tight these Globalists are and how widespread their influence was/is. When Hollywood turned against Trump that was the clincher.

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

995069717579624450Sorry, all the quotes say what European countries could do, not should.

IOW, more fake news from Chris.

[Nathan89]

Just shows how tight these Globalists are and how widespread their influence was/is. When Hollywood turned against Trump that was the clincher.

Damn shame tbh. If your party is openly game planning against your own country then it's time to admit they don't give a fuck about you.

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Pathetic. Game planning against your country.:lmao

Those countries shouldn't let USA violate critical int'l agreements without penalty.

[Nathan89]

Those countries shouldn't let USA violate critical int'l agreements without penalty.

"Critical":lol

[Chris]

"Critical":lol

Thank you. I wanted to say it.

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DdC5fZfV0AIM1bv.jpg

[Pavlov]

"Critical":lol


Thank you. I wanted to say it.So you're not concerned with Iran's getting a nuclear weapon?

What's all the fuss about then?

[Chris]

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[Chris]

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[AaronY]

Sounds like a plan

Not having any actual plan i mean

[Pavlov]

:lmao USANEWS007

[ElNono]

ugh, gas prices going up again... thanks Dennison!

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https://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/1.jpeg?w=720&h=872&crop=1

[Chris]

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[ElNono]

lol @ walls of tweets nobody reads

[TSA]

lol @ walls of tweets nobody reads

Thomas Wictor on the Middle East fighting should be a wall of tweets that everybody is required to read.

[ElNono]

Thomas Wictor on the Middle East fighting should be a wall of tweets that everybody is required to read.

who?

[TSA]

who?

Thomas Wictor. Author, novelist, and the planet's only expert on World War One flamethrowers.

[ElNono]

Thomas Wictor. Author, novelist, and the planet's only expert on World War One flamethrowers.

Oh, sounds legit

[Pavlov]

:lol TSA's required reading.

I just saw a British program on a huge flamethrower at the Somme. That dickhiole isn't the only expert.

[Chris]

Thomas Wictor on the Middle East fighting should be a wall of tweets that everybody is required to read.

:tu

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It’s not just Trump. The US has always broken its treaties, pacts and promises

the US is an unreliable international partner—

and it has long been one,

even before the current administration pulled out from the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) and

the Paris agreement on climate change, and

threatened to end NAFTA.

History is dotted with treaties that the

US has signed but not ratified,

signed and then unsigned, and

even refused to sign after pushing everyone else to sign.

https://qz.com/1273510/all-the-international-agreements-the-us-has-broken-before-the-iran-deal/ (https://qz.com/1273510/all-the-international-agreements-the-us-has-broken-before-the-iran-deal/)

[hater]

Damn petroyuan rose 12% since US withdrawal from Iran deal

Also looks like Chinese Oil Company will take over French company if they pull out of Iran. That would basically mean Irans supply will basically belong to china and its petroyuan :wow

:lmao making china great again :lol


Not to mention EU is considering dumping US dollar in trades with Iran and trade in Euro

Goddam this could be the move that takes US out of global domination

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U.S. OIL INDUSTRY STRUGGLES TO FILL VOID LEFT BY IRAN SANCTIONS

logistical constraints, in particular insufficient pipeline capacity at the heart of the U.S. shale boom in West Texas, are

limiting how quickly American companies will be able to replace any lost Iranian crude exports taken off the global oil market.

The difficulties being experienced in shale country help explain why the

U.S. has talked to large oil producers abroad about ways to increase supply and offset any impact from its exit from the Iran nuclear deal.

The talks were revealed by Steven Mnuchin, treasury secretary, hours after Trump’s announcement on Tuesday.

Oil produced in the Permian Basin of Texas and New Mexico, the white-hot center of the shale boom (https://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/move-over-fracking-theres-a-new-technology-in-town/71701), is

becoming trapped with no easy route to a refinery or an export terminal.

The hectic pace of drilling and the productivity gains have boosted output from the Permian Basin by 60 percent in the past two years, to 3.2 million barrels a day.

The problem is that the pace of the boom is straining the ability of the region to keep up, with workers, with equipment and with pipelines.

“There is a huge capacity issue,” says John Zanner of RBN Energy, a research firm. “For all intents and purposes, pipelines are full.”

https://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/us-oil-industry-struggles-to-fill-void-left-by-iran-sanctions/86710?utm_source=dd&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05162018&variable=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031 (https://www.ozy.com/fast-forward/us-oil-industry-struggles-to-fill-void-left-by-iran-sanctions/86710?utm_source=dd&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=05162018&variable=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031)

another side-effect of Trash impulsively, thoughtlessly starting commercial war on Iran?

[hater]

Confirmed French oil co will pull out.

China takeover imminent

[TSA]

Oh, sounds legitHe's legit

https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/german-flamethrower-pioneers-of-world-war-i-thomas-wictor/1100550410

https://www.amazon.com/Flamethrower-Troops-World-War-Schiffer/dp/076433526X

https://www.amazon.com/German-Assault-Troops-World-War/dp/0764340360/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_14_img_2/143-9951915-9609217?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=9Z58709YW4G53S48825R

[spurraider21]

when he said "sounds legit" i dont think he meant he doesn't believe he is an author who has studied flamethrowers :lol

[RandomGuy]

EU vows to block blow of US Iran sanctions

he EU said Thursday it will begin moves to block the effect of US sanctions on Iran as efforts to preserve the nuclear deal with Tehran deepened a transatlantic rift.

The decision came as Russia and China took some of their most concrete moves yet to extend their economic influence in Iran, in the face of renewed US efforts to choke off Tehran.

...
- 'Reinforce China' -

Meanwhile, Iran's oil minister said that Chinese state-owned oil company CNPC was ready to replace Total on a major gas field project in Iran.

Beijing also signalled that it intends to continue "normal and transparent practical cooperation with Iran".

The US says its sanctions apply to any transactions that are conducted in dollars, which are used in most international transactions, in particular in trading of crude oil.

But China has for years been working to increase trade using its currency and in March a yuan-denominated oil contract was launched in Shanghai.

Trump's withdrawal from the deal is now likely to boost China's influence in the region, a European diplomatic source warned.

"The Iran issue will probably reinforce China in the region, because the European businesses that can't take on the cost of difficulties on their American markets will leave an important gap for a power that seems to have no problem with taking their place," the source said.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russia-china-tighten-ties-iran-114655031.html

[RandomGuy]

https://internationaleducation.gov.au/International-network/china/PolicyUpdates-China/Documents/China.jpg


China's multi-trillion dollar initiative goes through Iran. This made their job easier.

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Trash is in the Manchurian Candidate category

[ElNono]

when he said "sounds legit" i dont think he meant he doesn't believe he is an author who has studied flamethrowers :lol

:lol

yeah, basically, I can say spurraider21 is required reading when talking middle east... we'll be in the same ballpark.

Fortunately, you don't need to cut down your post in 20 tweets, tbh...

[ElNono]

Can't wait to find out Q is a cook irl, tbh... :lol

[hater]

Damn petroyuan rose 12% since US withdrawal from Iran deal

Also looks like Chinese Oil Company will take over French company if they pull out of Iran. That would basically mean Irans supply will basically belong to china and its petroyuan :wow

:lmao making china great again :lol


Not to mention EU is considering dumping US dollar in trades with Iran and trade in Euro

Goddam this could be the move that takes US out of global domination

Called this shit :tu

997697116142125056

Chinese taking over where French company left :wow

China is now going to control 70% of earths biggest oil field and will only trade in Yuan :wow

Making China Great Again :lmao

[koriwhat]

Trash is in the Manchurian Candidate category

the sky is falling!

[Chris]

998075848472387584


Trump

[hater]

:lmao yeah Iran is trying to conquer ME by forcing US to invade Iraq and support terrorists in Syria :lol

[hater]

Iran president tearing Pompeo a brand new asshole:

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[Winehole23]

opportunity for China:


German newspaper Welt am Sonntag reported on Sunday that diplomats from Europe, China and Russia are discussing a new accord to offer Iran financial aid to curb its ballistic missile development, in the hope of salvaging the 2015 deal, according to Reuters. The officials will meet in Vienna in the coming week under the leadership of senior European Union diplomat Helga Schmid to discuss the next steps. http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2146917/irans-top-envoy-china-calls-beijing-help-safeguard

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opportunity for China:

http://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy-defence/article/2146917/irans-top-envoy-china-calls-beijing-help-safeguard

Russia, China influence up around the world, USA influence (but not it garrisoning of the planet) down,

just as Pootin wants for the Great Glory of Mother Russia

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U.S. sanctions against allies over Iran deal like blowing up a bridge while still standing on it

As Iran, the E.U., and Russia work to save the deal,

the Trump administration tries to figure out which of its partners to sanction first.

https://thinkprogress.org/u-s-kill-iran-nuclear-deal-by-damaging-key-alliances-83d0083fde6e/

80% of Repugs, lost in alternate reality, still support Trash :lol

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Iranian FM dismisses Pompeo speech as a ‘sham’

Zarif says new US strategy on Iran 'repeats the same wrong choices and will thus reap the same ill rewards'

Pompeo: US will ‘crush’ Iranian and Hezbollah operatives

Pompeo says the US and its allies will work to “deter Iranian aggression,” thwarting Iranian cyberattacks and efforts to interfere with crucial waterways.

“We will track down Iranian operatives and their Hezbollah allies around the world and we will crush them,” he says.

“If they restart their nuclear program it will mean bigger problems. Bigger problems than they’ve ever had before,” adds Pompeo.

He also says the US will continue to condemn Iran’s treatment of its citizens, noting the recent protests in the country.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog-may-21-2018/

[hater]

Ma niga Federica Mogherini going in raw on USA :lmao

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[hater]

If she can pull it off ma niga Federica will snatch the Nobel from Trumps tiny hands :lmao

[hater]

Pompeo is now in competition with Nikki Haley for the best Trump and Israel's ass licker. Threats after threats...
Let's see what Nikki will add to the Pompeo's list. She must to keep up her position.
The USA is becoming a laughing stock for the world, and together with Netanyahu and Bolton its leaders are perceived as inept but dangerous clowns.
On wonders if they will survive more than a year in their job



:lmao

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Pompeo vows 'strongest sanctions in history' on Iran

http://thehill.com/sites/default/files/styles/thumb_small_article/public/pompeomikesolemn_051918getty.jpg?itok=QRiZ1ud5




vowed Monday to levy an “unprecedented” level of sanctions on Iran

in his fist major foreign policy address since becoming chief diplomat, Pompeo laid out 12 pillars the U.S. would demand from Iran for a new deal, even as he said a new agreement is “not the objective” of the Trump administration.

“We will apply unprecedented financial pressure on the Iranian regime,”

“The sting of sanctions will be painful if the regime does not change course from the unacceptable and unproductive path it has chosen to one that rejoins the league of nations.

These will indeed end up being the strongest sanctions in history when we are complete.”

Pompeo acknowledged the concerns European allies

“Any time sanctions are put in place, countries have to give up economic activity,” he said.

“Everyone’s going to have to participate in this.

Every country’s going to have to understand that we cannot continue to create wealth for [Quds Force Commander] Qasem Soleimani.”

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/388597-pompeo-vows-strongest-sanctions-in-history-on-iran

Trash/Pompeo gonna fuck European wealth and jobs hard and deep to please Israel and End Timer losers.

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Another Kock Bros Kock sucker from Kansas

How Pompeo’s “Severest Sanctions” on Iran Will Backfire

Pompeo,

a Kansas oil man backed by the Koch brothers,

knows little about the world and is among the worst prepared secretaries of state in American history.

Pompeo, a Kansas oil man backed by the Koch brothers, is just a former congressman and

a virulent Christian fundamentalist

with white nationalist tendencies.

He knows little about the world and is among the worst prepared secretaries of state in American history. He also knows
nothing about the history of the region.

The classic work on sanctions by K.A. ****** and G.C. Huffbauer “concluded that empirical research on 115 cases of sanctions imposed from World War I to 1990 indicate that

sanctions are more likely to succeed if its goal is modest,

the target country is smaller than the sending country,

the receiving and sending countries have friendly relations with substantial trade prior to imposition of sanctions,

the cost to sending country is not significant, and sanctions are imposed quickly and decisively.”

(Quoting S. Shojai and Patricia S. Root, “Effectiveness Of Economic Sanctions: Empirical Research Revisited,” The International Business & Economics Research Journal (Online) Vol. 12, Issue 11. Date: 2013.)

Pompeo’s press on Iran is the opposite of those successful cases in most regards.

The US did not have good trade relations with Iran before Pompeo, and Pompeo’s demands are extremely wide-ranging.

Historical experience therefore predicts failure.

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/05/22/how-pompeos-severest-sanctions-iran-will-backfire (https://www.commondreams.org/views/2018/05/22/how-pompeos-severest-sanctions-iran-will-backfire)

[hater]

Damn EU really pissed at their daddy US

Wonder how long they will go on this charade before waving the white flag

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[boutons_deux]

Damn EU really pissed at their daddy US

Wonder how long they will go on this charade before waving the white flag

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Trash withdrawing the USA from planetary participation, reducing global influence is EXACTLY what Pootin hired Trash to do.

Trash is a Manchurian Candidate

[Winehole23]

opportunities for Iran, possible eviction notices for US troops and contractors after the recent Iraqi elections:


two staunchly anti-American alliances – led by Muqtadar al-Sadr and Hadi al-Amiri – secured first and second places respectively.
Coalition making will be a long drawn out process, but what is clear is that the next government in Baghdad will have a pronouncedly anti-American tilt and the probability is high that it could evict US troops and contractors totaling 100,000 in Iraq.http://www.atimes.com/article/iraqi-voters-undermine-trumps-iran-strategy/

[Chris]

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Trash/Pompeo/Bolton bullying nations for Bibi/End-Timers, diminishing/isolating/weakening USA

Trump administration threatens sanctions against countries that import Iranian oil

impose sanctions against governments that don’t cut imports of Iranian oil to “zero” by Nov. 4,

the arm-twisting is meeting resistance in parts of Europe, especially among allies who helped negotiate and sign the disarmament accord and want to sustain it to constrain Iran’s nuclear ambitions.

The State Department official, who briefed reporters on condition of anonymity, said countries must stop imports of Iranian oil by the November deadline or face so-called secondary sanctions for trading with Iran. No waivers are planned,

Iran’s most significant customers are China, India, South Korea and Japan, while France and Italy are the largest in Europe.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-pol-us-iran-20180626-story.html#nws=mcnewsletter

[lefty]

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:lol Iranians
:lol retards

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Giuliani Vows That Trump Will Help Bring Down the Iranian Regime

The Trump Administration is now signalling to its allies and Iranian dissidents that its new policy—to choke Tehran economically and publicly support local protesters—can topple the revolutionary government in Iran.

“We are now very realistic in being able to see an end of the regime in Iran,” :lol

Giuliani compared Trump’s support for the protests to President Reagan’s support for the opponents of Communist rule in Eastern Europe in the nineteen-eighties. :lol

like Ronald Reagan did for the protesters in Poland when Solidarity marched against Communism,” Giuliani said. “And what happened there? Communism fell. :lol

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/giuliani-vows-that-trump-will-help-bring-down-the-iranian-regime?mbid=nl_Daily%20070118&CNDID=43758549&spMailingID=13795008&spUserID=MTQzNTk4NzA3ODYzS0&spJobID=1440080201&spReportId=MTQ0MDA4MDIwMQS2

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Iran just threatened unprecedented retaliation against the United States over Trump’s reckless attack

Iran is threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz to all seagoing traffic. The narrow straight off its coast is, according to CNBC, (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/iran-is-threatens-to-close-critical-transit-lane-for-crude-oil.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain)“the world’s most important transit lane for crude oil.”

If Trump cuts all of its oil sales as it is threatening,

Iranian president Hassan Rouhani said his country is ready to disrupt crude (and natural gas shipments) as well as end its cooperation with the UN nuclear watchdog.

The Pentagon is already talking tough and is likely to be backed by the hawks around Trump.

The U.S. Navy said it is ready to confront Iran with a military response if it tries to close the Strait.


“Bill Urban, a spokesman for US Central Command, said Washington and its allies provided security in the region and would not stand idly by,” reports The Guardian. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/05/iran-retaliate-us-oil-threats-eu-visit-hassan-rouhani-trump)

“Together,” said Urban, “we stand ready to ensure the freedom of navigation and the free flow of commerce wherever international law allows,” he said.


If a military conflict erupts, it would not be the first time.

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/07/05/iran-just-threatened-unprecedented-retaliation-against-the-united-states-over-trumps-reckless-attack/

[RandomGuy]

Called this shit :tu

997697116142125056

Chinese taking over where French company left :wow

China is now going to control 70% of earths biggest oil field and will only trade in Yuan :wow

Making China Great Again :lmao

Chinese have been angling to make their currency the reserve currency. This is a win/win for them.

[koriwhat]

Iran just threatened unprecedented retaliation against the United States over Trump’s reckless attack

Iran is threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz to all seagoing traffic. The narrow straight off its coast is, according to CNBC, (https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/05/iran-is-threatens-to-close-critical-transit-lane-for-crude-oil.html?__source=twitter%7Cmain)“the world’s most important transit lane for crude oil.”

If Trump cuts all of its oil sales as it is threatening,

Iranian president Hassan Rouhani said his country is ready to disrupt crude (and natural gas shipments) as well as end its cooperation with the UN nuclear watchdog.

The Pentagon is already talking tough and is likely to be backed by the hawks around Trump.

The U.S. Navy said it is ready to confront Iran with a military response if it tries to close the Strait.


“Bill Urban, a spokesman for US Central Command, said Washington and its allies provided security in the region and would not stand idly by,” reports The Guardian. (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jul/05/iran-retaliate-us-oil-threats-eu-visit-hassan-rouhani-trump)

“Together,” said Urban, “we stand ready to ensure the freedom of navigation and the free flow of commerce wherever international law allows,” he said.


If a military conflict erupts, it would not be the first time.

https://washingtonpress.com/2018/07/05/iran-just-threatened-unprecedented-retaliation-against-the-united-states-over-trumps-reckless-attack/




fuck iran! burn motherfucker burn!

[boutons_deux]

Iran nuclear deal: US rejects EU plea for sanctions exemption

The US has rejected pleas from the EU to grant exemptions to European firms from the sanctions on Iran that will start to be reinstated next month.

Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin wrote in a letter that they wanted to exert "unprecedented" pressure on Tehran.

In 2017, EU exports to Iran (goods and services) totalled €10.8bn (£9.5bn; $12.9bn),

and imports from Iran were worth €10.1bn.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-44842723

Trash and his necons are JOB KILLERS in other ALLIED countries, to pander to Jewish/AIPAC $100Ms.

:lol Pootin and Israel dictating USA's foreign policies :lol

And of course, Trash continues to spite his Muslim/Kenyan knitter.

[pgardn]

If she can pull it off ma niga Federica will snatch the Nobel from Trumps tiny hands :lmao

From a Swedish academy, you give it to Trump.... Please just take a sledgehammer to your cranium.

[boutons_deux]

‘NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN,’ Trump tweets in warning to Iran’s Rouhani

“To Iranian President Rouhani:

NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR

YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES

THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE.

WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH.

BE CAUTIOUS!”

Trump tweeted. ( :lol NOT Trash's words. Sounds like dickless twerp Stephen Miller! :lol )

Iran’s state-owned Islamic Republic News Agency replied within hours, dismissing Trump’s tweet and describing it as a “passive reaction” to Rouhani’s remarks.

Earlier Sunday, Rouhani said the United States should avoid inciting Iranians against the government as the Trump administration is poised to reimpose sanctions suspended under the 2015 nuclear deal that Trump withdrew from in May.

“America should know that peace with Iran is the mother of all peace, and war with Iran is the mother of all wars,” Rouhani told a meeting of Iranian diplomats, according to IRNA.

“You are not in a position to incite the Iranian nation against Iran’s security and interests,” Rouhani said.

Gen. Gholam Hossein Gheibparvar, head of the Revolutionary Guard’s paramilitary Basij force, said

the United States “won’t dare” take military action against Iran, whose missiles can hit most of the Middle East.

Iran also controls part of the Strait of Hormuz, the narrow passageway for all of the Persian Gulf oil tanker traffic.

Bigger sanctions, which will take effect in November, are aimed at

cutting off virtually all of Iran’s oil market. :lol

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/pompeo-likens-irans-leaders-to-the-mafia/2018/07/22/e4f559a8-3f06-439c-8b83-a23278956ebe_story.html?utm_term=.98a4bd3a7bb7

taking Iran's 4M barrels / day off the market, about 5% of total, will raise the price of oil, which of course is exactly what BigOil wants, viciously extracting $100Bs from oil/gas customers.

[boutons_deux]

already posted in another thread

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So dickless, hairless, obese Trash gonna go faux Macho Man on Iran, probably after Mueller drops the hammer on him, while enriching BigOil by $100Bs, costing consumers the same amount.

[pgardn]

Alan Dershowitz is all in on Trump due to Israel.
Is this what happens to craven old lawyers?

Dude is a traitor to his own words concerning truth and examination.

https://www.jns.org/alan-dershowitz-on-israel-at-70-a-light-unto-the-world/

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/dershowitz-slams-sex-in-the-city-s-star-nixon-as-anti-israel-1.5918166

The two articles above do show that Israel is still a democracy despite recent regressions. They actually debate in Israel. This country needs to undergo a seismic shift. With BN and Dershowitz clowning for them, things look bleak.

[RandomGuy]

President Shitbrain McBonkersdick strikes again:


Donald Trump Threatens Iran With War In Caps Lock Twitter Rant

Donald Trump has tweeted that Iran would "suffer consequences the likes of which few throughout history have ever suffered before" if its president, Hassan Rouhani, were ever - EVER - to repeat his claim that war with Iran would be "the mother of all wars".

Even by Trump's standards, the tweet's quite something.

https://www.esquire.com/uk/latest-news/a22512807/donald-trump-threatens-iran-with-war-in-caps-lock-twitter-rant/

[boutons_deux]

Bolton and Pompeo are obesessed with attacking Iran

As Trump Tweets Threats, Warnings of His Team 'Working in Lock Step to Lay Groundwork' for War With Iran

Following weekend reporting (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/07/22/warnings-iraq-war-redux-bolton-and-pompeo-are-reportedly-leading-push-foment-unrest) that key members of President Donald Trump's cabinet are leading a campaign to "foment unrest" in Iran, and Iranian President Hassan Rouhani's warning (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/07/play-lion-tail-rouhani-warns-trump-180722162909627.html) that a conflict between the two countries "would be the mother of all wars,"

"last month the United States said it would impose sanctions on all exporters (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/26/world/middleeast/us-iran-oil-sanctions-.html) of Iranian oil. American officials have since moderated the sanctions demand (https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/02/world/middleeast/us-iran-oil-imports-sanctions-.html), which roiled oil markets."

Reutersreported (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/07/22/warnings-iraq-war-redux-bolton-and-pompeo-are-reportedly-leading-push-foment-unrest) that Trump's national security adviser John Bolton (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/global-opinions/wp/2018/03/24/john-bolton-wants-regime-change-in-iran-and-so-does-the-cult-that-paid-him/) and Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/05/pompeos-new-iran-strategy-regime-change-in-all-but-name.html) have "launched an offensive of speeches and online communications meant to foment unrest and

help pressure Iran to end its nuclear program and its support of militant groups,"

which is supposed to "work in concert with [Trump's] push to economically throttle Iran by re-imposing tough sanctions."

"Everything they're doing right now is only compatible with a policy of confrontation."

Pompeo reportedly claimed (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pompeo-iran-talk-20180722-story.html) the nation's leadership

"resembles the Mafia more than a government" and

called Iran's clerics "hypocritical holy men."

"The whole administration appears to be working in lock step to lay the groundwork for a military confrontation.

By lodging personal attacks against Iran's supreme leader,

making demands that no one believes Iran can fulfill, and

hinting at regime change,

the administration is making clear that military action is very much on the table."

"Without a doubt, this is not an administration that is pursuing a policy of actually trying to find a new way to the negotiating table or striking a new deal.

Everything they're doing right now is only compatible with a policy of confrontation," Parsi concluded

"Whether that confrontation will take place through a direct military confrontation,

or whether it will be the Trump administration continuing and intensifying their efforts to destabilize Iran—

or, as Reuters reported over the weekend, to foment unrest in Iran—

remains to be seen."

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/07/23/trump-tweets-threats-warnings-his-team-working-lock-step-lay-groundwork-war-iran?cd-origin=rss&utm_term=As%20Trump%20Tweets%20Threats%2C%20Warnin gs%20of%20His%20Team%20%27Working%20in%20Lock%20St ep%20to%20Lay%20Groundwork%27%20for%20War%20With%2 0Iran&utm_campaign=The%20Devil%20Is%20the%20Detail%20%20 %7C%20Your%20Week%20in%20Review&utm_content=email&utm_source=Weekly%20Newsletter&utm_medium=Email&cm_mmc=Act-On%20Software-_-email-_-The%20Devil%20Is%20the%20Detail%20%20%7C%20Your%20 Week%20in%20Review-_-As%20Trump%20Tweets%20Threats%2C%20Warnings%20of%2 0His%20Team%20%27Working%20in%20Lock%20Step%20to%2 0Lay%20Groundwork%27%20for%20War%20With%20Iran

Trash and his mafiya will fuckup with Iran just like they've fucked up everything else.

[Chris]

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[pgardn]

What you have actually brought up Chris is that Iran has a relatively young Western leaning population.
They have quite a few underground Christian groups, which should please you, but they do not particularly like the US and especially not Trump.

[Chris]

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[Winehole23]

lol Chris lionizing the MEK, a Marxist cult

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Emblem_of_the_People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran.svg/125px-Emblem_of_the_People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran.svg.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Emblem_of_the_People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran.sv g)

[Winehole23]

if there is regime change, which institution in Iran is most likely to prevail?

hardliners in the military.

[Winehole23]

if there is not regime change, who benefits from hardline US policy?

the mullahs and the military.

[Winehole23]

we're on the path to war with Iran. we didn't have to do this.

it's an even worse idea than war with Iraq or Afghanistan.

[boutons_deux]

Trash/Bolton/Bibi "regime changing" Iran will fail, like all other USA regime changing.

There will be yet another huge wealth redistribution upwards as the oligarchy/MIC sucks $100Bs out of taxpayers' pockets and into national debt to pay for regime change, giving the oligarchy more reason to cut govt services to taxpayers, esp in red/slave states.

USA/NATO regime changing Ukraine sorta worked but it led Pootin to grab eastern Ukraine for himself.

[Winehole23]

Yet another irony is that if either through triggering some kind of successful democratic uprising that would overthrow the Islamic regime, or if one were to be installed a la Iraq after a “successful” invasion, this regime would demand to have civilian nuclear power, which is overwhelmingly supported by the Iranian population (although maybe aid to Hezbollah and Hamas would end). The opposition Greens, who were violently suppressed in 2009, supported civilian nuclear power. Iran has been working for it since Eisenhower initially provided US support for it in Iran to the Shah. In the end the outcome in terms of the nuclear issue, after who knows how much cost in lives and material, would be something like what we had with the JCPOA,a carefully monitored and controlled civilian nuclear program. https://econospeak.blogspot.com/2018/08/trumps-illegal-economic-sanctions.html

[Chris]

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:tu

[boutons_deux]

Trash said any country dealing with Iran (like buying oil) will be prevented from dealing with US companies.

That should piss off, hurt a bunch US companies.

[Winehole23]

the most biting sanctions ever imposed, ratcheting up the level to bring about WORLD PEACE, nothing less.

[pgardn]

This widespread uprising could become a real problem.

For Europe.

If this thing goes full Syria (the weapons are present within the country to cause enough death, chaos and create refugees)
Then If Saudi decides to stoke it... Not good.

[hater]

Problem wih this strategy is countries will eventually ditch dollar and go back to trading in their currencies

Already happening with Iran, Russia, Turkey, China, India(in Iran trade)

And just now, Nigeria has approved the use of Yuan as alternate trading currency

The main problem with this is once these countries are dollar free, US wont be able to do this again.and they will NOT go back to dollar ever again

[hater]

IMO this is a very risky last ditch effort by US. Only 2 scenarios will happen, eventually Euro will be aftected and entire world economy crashes, or a few country governments fall here and there but still military intervention will be needed

[boutons_deux]

Are neocons still pissed that St Ronnie didn't take revenge on Iran for the Embassy destruction?

(can't blame St Ronnie, he colluded with Iran to hold the hostages until after St Ronnie was sworn in)

Iran has done less to destabilize M/E than USA, which is the World Champion War Monger and Terrorist Recruiter.

What do Repugs gain from fomenting Iran into a hoped-for revolution? More Jewish/AIPAC $100Ms?

[hater]

if there is regime change, which institution in Iran is most likely to prevail?

hardliners in the military.

100%

If there is internal regime change it will be to remove the Secular Rhouhani and install an ultra hardline Muslim cleric type

Heads will roll

Maybe US wants that so they have better excuse to attack Iran. Similar thing they tried in Syria.

Question is would Russia/China step in to help Iran then?

[Winehole23]

65 years ago today, the US and the UK smothered Iranian democracy in its crib:

http://theconversation.com/how-the-cia-toppled-iranian-democracy-81628

[boutons_deux]

other "meddling" by the American Empire, where did this lead to?



September 1950 — Truman sends the Military Assistance Advisory Group (MAAG (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAAG)) Indochina to Vietnam to assist the French. The President claimed they were not sent as combat troops, but to supervise the use of $10 million worth of U.S. military equipment (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_equipment) to support the French in their effort to fight the Viet Minh forces.

[hater]

European spineless pussies have caved to US pressure and decided to stop importing Iranian oil

:lmao gutless eurocucks :lol

China, Russia, India and Turkey staying strong so far

[boutons_deux]

Iran says it has full control of Gulf and U.S. navy does not belong there


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear/iran-says-it-has-full-control-of-gulf-and-u-s-navy-does-not-belong-there-idUSKCN1LC0N0?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29

that should piss off the blood-thirsty, war-mongering US neocons.

[hater]

This is huge IMO, just last year Turkey and Iran were literally fighting a war in Syria on opposite sides

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1034022872661012481?s=21

[hater]

https://twitter.com/reuters/status/1034037933270032385?s=21

This is also pretty big. They are basically forming a soft alliance so nobody can really say Iran is in Syria illegaly

[in2deep]

The Donald Trump administration is scrambling to get concessions out of Russia on Syria before the Bashar al-Assad regime completes its reconquest of the country, greatly constraining any remaining US leverage.With Assad’s forces poised to take back the last remaining rebel bastion of Idlib, US officials are in a race to get Moscow to help curtail Iranian influence. Washington is worried that a final Assad victory will give Tehran and its proxies free rein to ferry weapons and supplies through to the Mediterranean Sea, threatening Israel and other US allies.


https://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/en/originals/2018/08/us-scramble-syria-deal-idlib-offensive.amp.html?__twitter_impression=true

[Winehole23]

Too late, Syria is already a Russian/Iranian condominium.

[hater]

Too late, Syria is already a Russian/Iranian condominium.

All with illegal squatters in their northeast condominium building bases

[Winehole23]

All with illegal squatters in their northeast condominium building basessorry, what? are we talking about Kurds now?

[Winehole23]

Being a bully has its drawbacks. Germany to probe SWIFT alternatives:


"The current issues with Iranian financial institutions accessing SWIFT is not a new development of economic diplomacy malfunctioning. Disputes between the USA administration and SWIFT arose in 2006 and 2012 respectively, with their resolutions not being satisfactory for both parties," Bovis went on.

"It is also highly likely that the EU will develop a system which mirrors the SWIFT functions but without the interference of the US administration," Bovis said.

"The Deutsche Börse owns and controls international central securities depositories such as Euroclear and Clearstream. SWIFT does not have a monopoly in international intra-banking transactions. The EU has legal and regulatory powers to combine asset and cash swapping and clearing houses and create a parallel system to SWIFT in order to accommodate transactions of Iranian financial institutions in the light of the recent agreement between Iran and the major western economies, including Russia, after the withdrawal of the current USA administration.

This parallel system of financial infrastructure represents a type of financial utility which could be linked to the European Investment Bank and provide denominated credit facilities in euros," Bovis added.

Academics Esfandyar Batmanghelidj and Axel Hellman have argued, for example, that during a previous Iranian SWIFT ban in 2012-16, several European banks were able to maintain their relationships with Iranian financial institutions by using "ad hoc messaging systems" and this could be revived.

The two academics posit a rise in the use of so-called gateway banks — which have access to the ECB's value payments system, Target2, and limited exposure to the US financial system — which would conduct euro transactions on behalf of buyers and sellers of Iranian oil. Instead of using SWIFT bank identifier codes to indicate account number, Batmanghelidj and Hellman point to the possibility of using IBAN numbers, a different international standard.
https://www.dw.com/en/germany-urges-swift-end-to-us-payments-dominance/a-45242528

[Chris]

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[hater]

sorry, what? are we talking about Kurds now?

Usa

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[Winehole23]

Larison cuts through the bullshit:


The Trump administration’s willingness to “negotiate” with Iran is very much like its readiness to make a “deal” with the Palestinians: the other side is expected to make extensive concessions in exchange for nothing and will be punished severely until they agree to these humiliating terms. It is no wonder that the Iranian government has no interest in “negotiations” that amount to capitulation. https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/trumps-bankrupt-iran-policy/

[Winehole23]

Even if the U.S. had not reneged on the nuclear deal and proven that it can’t be trusted to honor its commitments, it would be extremely unlikely that Iran would be open to making more concessions than it has already made on the nuclear issue. Once the U.S. reneged on the deal, that made it politically impossible for any Iranian leader to negotiate with Washington. Once the U.S. started reimposing sanctions without justification, it became clear that the administration’s real goal was not a “new deal” but the destabilization and toppling of the regime.

[FrostKing]

American warmongers beating that war drum. "Iran is the largest state sponsor of terrorism" - does the average American believe this propaganda? I even saw Rudy mention terrorism in Europe. No, that would be your butt buddies Saudi Arabia

USA already forgot the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi's.

I'm with Iran. To hell with Saudi Arabia and take Israel with you

[Winehole23]

British Prime Minister Theresa May told "CBS This Morning (https://www.cbsnews.com/cbs-this-morning/)" co-host John Dickerson Friday that she believes Iran is holding up its end of the 2015 nuclear deal. (https://www.cbsnews.com/iran-nuclear-deal/)


"From what we see, we believe that it is doing that," May said.


She also said the deal, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, should stay in place because she believes it will prevent Iran from gaining a nuclear weapon.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/theresa-may-says-she-believes-iran-is-holding-up-its-end-of-the-nuclear-deal/

[RandomGuy]

Being a bully has its drawbacks. Germany to probe SWIFT alternatives:

https://www.dw.com/en/germany-urges-swift-end-to-us-payments-dominance/a-45242528

They are working with China to do just that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45634448

[boutons_deux]

They are working with China to do just that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45634448

yep, China and Europe are trying to divorce themselves from the American (Financial) Empire.

Pootin is loving it, as Manchurian Trash carries out Pootin's strategy to perfection.

[boutons_deux]

John Bolton Warns Iran ‘There Will Be Hell to Pay’ in Fiery Speech: ‘We Will Come After You’

“We do not intend for our sanctions to be abated by Europe or anybody else,” he added.

“So, I might imagine they would take me seriously when I assure them today:

If you cross us,

our allies, or

our partners;

if you harm our citizens;

if you continue to lie, cheat, and deceive,

yes, there will indeed be hell to pay.”

https://www.mediaite.com/online/john-bolton-warns-iran-there-will-be-hell-to-pay-in-fiery-speech-we-will-come-after-you/

The Ugly American, The Ugly America

[RandomGuy]

yep, China and Europe are trying to divorce themselves from the American (Financial) Empire.

Pootin is loving it, as Manchurian Trash carries out Pootin's strategy to perfection.

Not wrong about that. This is exactly the kind of thing that benefits the corrupt Russian government.

[Winehole23]

They are working with China to do just that.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45634448Eurasia bypassing the USA is a possible side effect of a tariff war. Those supply chains won't poof back into existence when tariffs are removed.

Nor will the markets for ag and US manufactures.

Oops.

[Winehole23]

China is huge and not afraid to manage its demand. That's a big advantage.

[Winehole23]

even with a 1% GDP ding from the tariff war, China's economy will grow over 6% this year.

[FrostKing]

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Lol. Some Native American Indian suffocating a self-determinating nation far far away.

What a time to be alive

[Chris]

Lol. Some Native American Indian suffocating a self-determinating nation far far away.

What a time to be alive

Trump

[FrostKing]

Trump
Saudi Arabia cracking the whip for agreeing to that arms deal?

[Chris]

Saudi Arabia cracking the whip for agreeing to that arms deal?

Mullahs lost their funding from lots of different countries. Turns out when you don't fund the largest sponsor of terror in the world, (thanks Obama!) they implode in on themselves.

[Winehole23]

Bigger than Saudi Arabia?

Prove it.

[hater]

Lol. Some Native American Indian suffocating a self-determinating nation far far away.

What a time to be alive

:lol shes actually indian indian

Her real name is something like natrawira halewati. She shortened it to nikki haley :lol

[hater]

Mullahs lost their funding from lots of different countries. Turns out when you don't fund the largest sponsor of terror in the world, (thanks Obama!) they implode in on themselves.

Huh?? We dont only still fund them but we are selling weapons to them in their Yemen genocide

[Chris]

Huh?? We dont only still fund them but we are selling weapons to them in their Yemen genocide

Trump turned off the spigot.

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[FrostKing]

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Lame. Biggest disagreement for me with Trump.

Trump can only fight so many battles in 1st term though.

Ron Paul is right here

[Pavlov]

1058379415179149312Still sucking det Saudi cock.

[hater]

Shits getting real

Iran getting fucked up

Even Skrippaled with that Denmark false flag.

Lol Denmarks source of info is the Israeli Mossad :lmao

False flag as shit

[Winehole23]

Sanctions are going to hurt the Iranian people and strengthen their hardline rulers, The people will blame the US, which reneged on a deal Iran is still in compliance with.


But by barring banks doing business with Iran from operating in the US or even using dollars, the restrictions effectively severely limit imports of food and medicine.


“Humanitarian goods are not sanctioned,” Gerard Araud, French ambassador to Washington, said at a forum (https://youtu.be/r7AGrxKSrOw?t=2011) last month. “But the fact is that the banks are so terrified by the sanctions that they don’t want to do anything with Iran.”
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/iran-us-sanctions-impact-trump-oil-economy-tehran-rial-currency-value-latest-a8614571.html

[Winehole23]

“These sanctions are a slap in the face to the Iranian people who have been squeezed between the repression of their government and the pressure of international sanctions for decades,” Jamal Abdi, president of the National Iranian American Council, said in a statement ahead of Pompeo’s announcement. “Impoverishing ordinary Iranians will not hurt the regime or achieve any of America’s security interests, but it will set back the Iranian people’s aspirations for years to comehttps://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/11/02/iran-sanctions-trump-administration-oil-secretary-state-mike-pompeo-treasury-steven-mnuchin/1854001002/

[FrostKing]

Many Americans think Iran, Iraq and Saudi are the same people so Trump is scoring points with the American public

[Millennial_Messiah]

Many Americans think Iran, Iraq and Saudi are the same people so Trump is scoring points with the American public

I agree, that's stupid


Saudi perpetrated 9/11, stones women to death, advocates jihadi terrorism etc. and sells us expensive oil. Iran coming into the picture with their own oil, lowered our gas prices to a post-Katrina low in winter 2015-16 under Obama shortly after the Iran deal. Now, my gas looks to stay over $2 all winter this year... and I'm in Texas. Free trade with the lowest seller would lower my gas prices. And I drive quite a lot.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

[Chris]

Trump calls the shots.

No more money for the war mongering Mullahs, and gas prices are set to go down :tu

Iranian people deserve a regime change, and a lot of them are thankful for Trump accelerating the process.

Obama was in bed with these demons.

[AaronY]

Trump calls the shots.

No more money for the war mongering Mullahs, and gas prices are set to go down :tu

Iranian people deserve a regime change, and a lot of them are thankful for Trump accelerating the process.

Obama was in bed with these demons.
ooh that scary obama i dont think the country could survive it if he became president

[FrostKing]

Saudi Arabia has been funding mosques throughout Europe that have become hotbeds of extremism, the former British ambassador to Saudi Arabia Sir William Patey has said.

Only a matter of time before this makes its way across the Atlantic. Iran is no threat to White nations.

[boutons_deux]

I agree, that's stupid


Saudi perpetrated 9/11, stones women to death, advocates jihadi terrorism etc. and sells us expensive oil. Iran coming into the picture with their own oil, lowered our gas prices to a post-Katrina low in winter 2015-16 under Obama shortly after the Iran deal. Now, my gas looks to stay over $2 all winter this year... and I'm in Texas. Free trade with the lowest seller would lower my gas prices. And I drive quite a lot.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

Trash/Repug/oligarchy priority isn't non-oligarchy you, but the oligarchy's power and wealth. Screwing up the oil-rich M/E is the best way to enrich BigOil, MIC, and their suppliers through high oil/gas prices and $10Bs in war spending. THAT's the priority.

[Chris]

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[AaronY]

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Conservatives loves them Louis Farrakhan.

He really needs to thank you guise for working so hard to make him relevant again

[boutons_deux]

Trump says he wants to go slower on sanctions for Iran's oil

- U.S. President Donald Trump on Monday said he wants to impose sanctions on Iran’s oil gradually, citing concerns about shocking energy markets and causing global price spikes.

“With the oil, it’s very interesting.

We have the toughest sanctions ever imposed, but on oil we want to go a little bit slower because I don’t want to drive (up) the oil prices in the world,” he told reporters before flying to a campaign event.

“This has nothing to do with Iran...

I could get the Iran oil down to zero immediately but it would cause a shock to the market. I don’t want to lift oil prices.”

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-iran-sanctions-trump/trump-says-he-wants-to-go-slower-on-sanctions-for-irans-oil-idUSKCN1NA2CO?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29

[Chris]

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[Winehole23]

Louis Farrakhan, ethno-nationalist, Trump supporter.

Farrakhan likes Trump's war on his enemies -- the FBI and the DOJ.

[Winehole23]

“God has him here!” the Nation of Islam leader said, referring to Trump during the morning event at the Watergate Hotel ballroom, which was filled to capacity with more than 500 people, mostly Nation members and other Farrakhan supporters.

[Winehole23]

praised Trump in 2016 for turning down money from "the Jews"


Trump “is the only member who has stood in front of the Jewish community and said ‘I don’t want your money,’” Farrakhan said in a sermon he delivered this week. “Any time a man can say to those who control the politics of America, ‘I don’t want your money,’ that means you can’t control me. And they can’t afford to give up control of the presidents of the United States.”

Despite his commendation for the billionaire businessman, Farrakhan did not endorse him. “Not that I’m for Mr. Trump,” he added, “but I like what I’m looking at.”

[Winehole23]

guess it depends which way the wind is blowing with Minister Farrakhan

[Spurminator]

Good to see Trumpers finally turning on one of their own.

https://i.imgur.com/J4VZvqY.png

[Will Hunting]

praised Trump in 2016 for turning down money from "the Jews"
:lol is that even true though? I thought Trump took Sheldon Adelson money.

[hater]

can't disagree with much of what nig Faraka said tbqh

he's right on most counts

except of course on the total destruction of USA :lol

USA!

USA!

USA!

[Winehole23]

:lol is that even true though? I thought Trump took Sheldon Adelson money.I'm not sure what Farrakhan was talking about, he's also veracity challenged.

[Will Hunting]

Yeah I just checked and Adelson has thrown tons of PAC money towards Trump, so he’s definitely in bed with the Jews who Farrakhan hates :lol

anti-Semites are really bad at determining who is/isn’t in bed with “the Jews” :lol

[Winehole23]

Nice oil tanker, it would be a shame if anything happened to it:


"Should there be an accident involving an Iranian tanker, there is simply no way these Iranian insurance companies can cover the loss," Hook said.
t https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/world/us-warns-to-stay-away-from-iranian-shipping-10907712

[Winehole23]

lol Chris lionizing the MEK, a Marxist cult

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/bb/Emblem_of_the_People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran.svg/125px-Emblem_of_the_People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran.svg.png (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Emblem_of_the_People%27s_Mujahedin_of_Iran.sv g)In supporting the MEK, Chris bears more than a passing resemblance to neocons and globalists.




Marxist roots:


At the time, the MEK, whose members were largely idealistic middle-class students, combined Islamism with Marxist doctrine. They reinterpreted the Qur’anic passages that undergirded their Shia faith as injunctions to socialise the means of production, eliminate the class system and promote the struggles of Iran’s ethnic minorities. Steeped in thinkers such as Frantz Fanon and Régis Debray, they expressed solidarity with national liberation movements in Algeria, Cuba, Palestine and Vietnam. Quoting Lenin’s famous pamphlet, the MEK posed the question: “What Is to Be Done?” “Our answer is straightforward,” the MEK wrote: “Armed struggle.”


Revolutionary pedigree:


When Rajavi emerged from prison in 1979, three weeks before the Iranian revolution, he was the undisputed leader of Iran’s most deadly underground rebel group.
The MEK played an important role in the 1979 revolution, seizing the imperial palace and doing much of the fighting to neutralise the police and the army.



Cult-like organization:


Isolated inside its Iraqi base, under Rajavi’s tightening grip, the MEK became cult-like. A report commissioned by the US government (https://www.rand.org/pubs/monographs/MG871.html), based on interviews within Camp Ashraf, later concluded that the MEK had “many of the typical characteristics of a cult, such as authoritarian control, confiscation of assets, sexual control (including mandatory divorce and celibacy), emotional isolation, forced labour, sleep deprivation, physical abuse and limited exit options”.


“We were far away from the world,” one member, who only escaped the MEK after the move to Albania, told me. “We had no information. No television, no radio.” Instead, within the camp, they had “Mojahedin television”, which consisted of looped speeches by Maryam and Massoud Rajavi, played “all day long”.


Rajavi told his followers that the failure of Eternal Light was not a military blunder, but was instead rooted in the members’ thoughts for their spouses; their love had sapped their will to fight. In 1990, all couples inside the camp were ordered to divorce – and women had their wedding rings replaced by pendants engraved with Massoud’s face. Spouses were separated, and their children were sent to be “adopted” by MEK supporters in Europe.


MEK commanders demanded that all members publicly reveal any errant sexual thoughts. Manouchelur Abdi, a 55-year-old who also left the MEK in Albania, told me that the confession sessions used to take place every morning. Even feelings of love and friendship were outlawed, he says. “I would have to confess that I missed my daughter,” he says. “They would shout at me. They would humiliate me. They would say that my family was the enemy and missing them was strengthening the hand of the mullahs in Tehran.


The testimony of these recent defectors follows earlier reports from groups such as Human Rights Watch, which reported former members witnessed “beatings, verbal and psychological abuse, coerced confessions, threats of execution and torture that in two cases led to death”.


Forced sterilization:


“They said I had a cyst,” she told me. “But they also took out my womb. They told me that it meant that I had an even stronger connection to our ideological leader.” Hedayati, who left the group in Iraq and now lives in Norway, says she was never sexually abused, but was “brainwashed” by the group into divorcing her husband, and alleges that more than 100 other women were sterilised by MEK doctors. “I always ask myself why they did this to us,” Bagheri said. “Of course, to take away our futures.”



Backed by Saddam in Iraq, attacked its own countrymen FOR TWENTY YEARS:


For almost two decades, under their embittered leader Massoud Rajavi, the MEK staged attacks against civilian and military targets across the border in Iran and helped Saddam suppress his own domestic enemies. But after siding with Saddam – who indiscriminately bombed Iranian cities and routinely used chemical weapons in a war that cost a million lives – the MEK lost nearly all the support it had retained inside Iran. Members were now widely regarded as traitors.


Helped Saddam crush Kurds and other domestic opposition:


“Take the Kurds under your tanks, and save your bullets for the Iranian revolutionary guards.” The MEK vehemently denies it participated in Saddam’s campaigns to put down the Shia and Kurdish rebellions, but an Iraqi human rights tribunal has indicted MEK leaders for their role in suppressing the uprisings.




Paid off John Bolton:


John Bolton, who has made multiple appearances at events supporting the MEK, is estimated to have received upwards of $180,000. According to financial disclosure forms, Bolton was paid $40,000 for a single appearance at the Free Iran rally in Paris in 2017.


GWB delisted the MEK, Obama protected the it from Nouri Al Maliki and found it safe haven in Albania:


Daniel Benjamin, who was then the head of counter-terrorism at the state department, told me that the US decided to remove the MEK from the list of foreign terrorist organisations not because it believed it had abandoned violence, but to “avoid them all getting killed” if it remained in Iraq. After the MEK was no longer designated a terrorist group, the US was able to convince Albania to accept the 2,700 remaining members – who were brought to Tirana on a series of charter flights between 2014 and 2016.


Too weak to topple the mullahs, no domestic constituency:


Analysts agree that the MEK lacks the capacity or support to overthrow the Iranian government – as even Bolton and Pompeo would surely concede. “They are probably smart enough to know that this group is not democratic and anyway has no constituency inside Iran,”https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/nov/09/mek-iran-revolution-regime-trump-rajavi

[Winehole23]

IAEA says Iran is still holding up its end of the bargain.

https://www.voanews.com/a/iaea-says-iran-still-abiding-by-nuclear-deal/4654911.html

[pgardn]

can't disagree with much of what nig Faraka said tbqh

he's right on most counts

except of course on the total destruction of USA :lol

USA!

USA!

USA!

A Jew lives under your bed.
Sleep well tonight.

[Winehole23]

the sick will suffer, many will die due to sanctions.

if anyone did this to us we'd consider it an act of war.

https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S1470-2045%2818%2930751-4

[boutons_deux]

In the USA,
the sick will suffer, many will die due to ...

Capitalists' for-profit health care.

Fascist for-profit America fleeces and screws it own people, so no problem slaughtering Ms in other countries.

[Chris]

1065353180916023297

[hater]

:lmao american war propaganda in full swing

Oh noes but but they have missiles :cry

[Chris]

1068904393821573120

[Winehole23]

By reneging on the JPCOA -- which Iran is still in compliance with -- the USA has violated the very same UN resolution.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BreitbartNews/status/1085363370541363201

Bibi calls shenanigans.

[apalisoc_9]

But but we should only be the ones allowed to own misslies. We only salughtered millions of kids, you will cause worse destruction :cry

[Chris]

But but we should only be the ones allowed to own misslies. We only salughtered millions of kids, you will cause worse destruction :cry

Don't cry when Trump completely pulls out of the Middle East.

[Winehole23]

Don't cry when Trump completely pulls out of the Middle East.why should Trump withdraw US forces from the middle east when Iran is menacing our ally with multi-stage rockets?

[Winehole23]

sounds like the sort of thing Iran would do:

https://www.ibtimes.com/us-born-iranian-journalist-marzieh-hashemi-detained-washington-hijab-forcefully-2752755

[apalisoc_9]

Don't cry when Trump completely pulls out of the Middle East.

Lol like Israel and Saudi will ever agree to that.

[Winehole23]

nm

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1090653584138661890

Thanks Obama!

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1090653584138661890

Thanks Obama!How could it be hidden from the American people when it's been public for half a year?

Also, UN report good now.

[boutons_deux]

Pootin dictates to compromised Trash to say "Fuck Europe" and Europe retorts "Fuck Trash"

Europe Is Set to Needle Trump With Iran Trade Promotion Plan

Three European powers (https://www.bloomberg.com/quote/EZU:US) are set to make good on

a plan to help companies trade with Iran,

defying President Donald Trump with a bid to bypass U.S. sanctions.

The entity, which could be presented as early as Monday, is key to the

European Union’s effort to save a 2015 nuclear accord with Iran

after Trump withdrew the U.S.

Whatever the economic impact, the push by

the U.K., France and Germany is another sign of European exasperation with the president.

A draft of an EU statement seen by Bloomberg welcomes the three-nation initiative as providing “a positive impact on trade and economic relations with Iran, but most importantly on the lives of Iranian people.”

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-27/europe-set-to-announce-iran-funding-vehicle-defying-trump

And Pootin laughs his ass off at the success of his strategy to divide Europe and USA.

And Pootin will laugh harder if Trash retaliates agains GB, D, F.

[boutons_deux]

Sold to an ally,lost to an enemy

The US shipped weapons and secrets to the Saudis and Emiratis. Now, some are in the hands of fighters linked to al Qaeda and Iran.

Saudi Arabia and its coalition partners have transferred American-made weapons to al Qaeda-linked fighters, hardline Salafi militias, and other factions

waging war in Yemen, in violation of their agreements with the United States,

The weapons have also made their way

into the hands of Iranian-backed rebels

battling the coalition for control of the country,

exposing some of America's sensitive military technology to Tehran

and potentially endangering the lives of US troops in other conflict zones.

Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, its main partner in the war, have used the US-manufactured weapons as a form of currency to buy the loyalties of militias or tribes, bolster chosen armed actors, and influence the complex political landscape,

By handing off this military equipment to third parties,

the Saudi-led coalition is breaking the terms of its arms sales with the US,

according to the Department of Defense. After CNN presented its findings, a US defense official confirmed there was an ongoing investigation into the issue.

https://edition.cnn.com/interactive/2019/02/middleeast/yemen-lost-us-arms/

Yet more countries playing stupid, ignorant, naive Trash's America for fools :lol

This is what all y'all Trash fellators voted for, right?

But no worries, fils pourri geopolitical guru Jared Kushner has full control of the situation

[Winehole23]

who could have guessed Iraq would have bridled at Trump's public suggestion that the US would make itself welcome in Iraq to "keep an eye on Iran"?


President Trump’s unexpected announcement that he wanted American troops in Iraq to stay there to “watch Iran” achieved a previously unattainable goal on Monday: unity in the Iraqi political establishment.

The problem for Mr. Trump was that the unity was a collective rejection of his proposal, and added momentum to proposed legislation that could hamper American troops’ ability to operate in Iraq. The measure, which is now being drafted, would limit American troop movements and activities in Iraq.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/world/middleeast/trump-iraq-iran-reaction.html

[boutons_deux]

who could have guessed Iraq would have bridled at Trump's public suggestion that the US would make itself welcome in Iraq to "keep an eye on Iran"?


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/02/04/world/middleeast/trump-iraq-iran-reaction.html

Trash spewing shit from the toxic, diseased vacuum between his ears, not even consulting with his sycophantic staff.

Maybe he talked to airhead Jared, and his ditzy bimbeau Ivanka

[Winehole23]

The US has isolated itself diplomatically and lost leverage over Iran:

1096895035067584512

[Pavlov]

The US has isolated itself diplomatically and lost leverage over Iran:

1096895035067584512WTF is Ivanka doing there?:lol

Also, it might have helped if Pence said "Please clap."

[Winehole23]

State Dept digital strategy Deputy Assistant has 414 followers, is a hack:

1097300216087306240

[Winehole23]

Great thread about the SPV and transatlantic diplomacy by Henry Farrell:

1099676367912865797

[boutons_deux]

Great thread about the SPV and transatlantic diplomacy by Henry Farrell:

1099676367912865797

and Pootin is howling in laughter as Trash implements Pootin's geopolitics, dividing EU / NATO, etc.

[Winehole23]

Iran is still abiding by the P5+1 deal.

The US, by cancelling sanctions waivers, is trying to get Iran and its partners to abandon the deal -- which would be a pretext for US war.


This has been a case of the administration wanting to have its cake and eat it, since it takes for granted that Iran is complying with the agreement and tacitly acknowledges that the agreement is worth having. Iran hawks in the Senate, including Ted Cruz, Tom Cotton, and Marco Rubio (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-11/fresh-u-s-divide-on-iran-emerges-over-expiring-nuclear-waivers), have been leading the charge to cancel these waivers because they object to Iran’s nuclear program itself no matter what it is being used for. They don’t distinguish between legitimate civilian nuclear projects and illicit military ones, and they deliberately try to confuse them to mislead the public about what Iran is doing.


The hawkish extremists have always wanted Iran’s nuclear program to be abolished, and if they can’t have that they want to create a pretext for conflict that allows for military action against Iran. Canceling these waivers would be the next step on the path to forcing Iran to abandon the nuclear deal and provide them with that pretext.



Revoking the waivers certainly makes no sense for U.S. interests, as any credible arms control expert would tell you (https://www.cnn.com/2019/04/23/politics/trump-considers-revoking-nuclear-sanctions-waivers/index.html):



Kelsey Davenport, the director of nonproliferation policy at the Arms Control Association, argued it would be a “dangerous and irresponsible decision not to renew the waivers.”



“Failing to renew the waivers would be a huge own goal for the United States. It’s in US national security interests to ensure that Iranian nuclear facilities cannot be quickly reconverted for nuclear weapons purposes,” Davenport said. “If the United States stops the remaining states party to the agreement from fulfilling those projects, it puts them in violation for the deal which just gives Iran future justification for abandoning the agreement.”


Bloomberg also reported (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-04-11/fresh-u-s-divide-on-iran-emerges-over-expiring-nuclear-waivers) on this earlier this month:



“It’s insane from a nonproliferation perspective,” said Jarrett Blanc, a senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace and a former State Department coordinator for Iran nuclear implementation. “Deciding to throw that away because you need the next drumbeat of antagonism toward Iran is nuts.”

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-nuclear-deal-saboteurs-arent-finished-yet/

[Winehole23]

WH and US journos give a megaphone to MEK propagandists:

1137735058423521281

[Spurminator]

Shades of @TEN_GOP all over again, shared by several dupes on this forum.

[boutons_deux]

German foreign minister in Iran trying to save the 5-nation agreement

[Winehole23]

Incident in Gulf of Oman, hysterical denunciation of Trump critics and unhinged threat inflation soon forthcoming

1139193835127541760

[TSA]

Hezbollah’s London Bomb-Making Plot, the Iran Nuclear Deal, and Bruce Ohr

https://www.theepochtimes.com/hezbollahs-london-bomb-making-plot-the-iran-nuclear-deal-and-bruce-ohr_2958118.html

[Pavlov]

Hezbollah’s London Bomb-Making Plot, the Iran Nuclear Deal, and Bruce Ohr

https://www.theepochtimes.com/hezbollahs-london-bomb-making-plot-the-iran-nuclear-deal-and-bruce-ohr_2958118.html:lmao epochtimes

[RandomGuy]

Don't cry when Trump completely pulls out of the Middle East.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Trump world is owned in no small part by Kushners debts to various Sheikhs.

If you think Trump is going to "pull out of the middle east" you are even dumber than I thought you were two minutes ago.

[RandomGuy]

Hezbollah’s London Bomb-Making Plot, the Iran Nuclear Deal, and Bruce Ohr

https://www.theepochtimes.com/hezbollahs-london-bomb-making-plot-the-iran-nuclear-deal-and-bruce-ohr_2958118.html

Are these bombs being constructed in the basement of a pizza restaurant?

[RandomGuy]

Incident in Gulf of Oman, hysterical denunciation of Trump critics and unhinged threat inflation soon forthcoming

1139193835127541760

I have railed for years against various "false flag" conspiracy theories. Most false flags... aren't.

Bolton and other long time ethically challenged chickenhawks getting charge of Iran policy from a lazy, disinterested and distracted president makes the picture as to what happned a lot less clear.

The fact that a Japanese ship was hit at the same time the Japanese minister is negotiating... smells like a group trying to pin something on the Iranians.

Also plausible is that this really was an Iranian operation, meant to underscore what they COULD do, if they so chose, a prod to get the US back to the table.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1141824865772589057

[Winehole23]

Our ally the KSA is the leading state sponsor of terror.

The USA supports the KSA big time, so what does that make us?

[Winehole23]

Never forget.








I guess Chris forgot.

[Winehole23]

Trump broke the JPCOA so he could lay sanctions and apply maximum pressure...to get a deal with Iran to prevent them from developing nukes.

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[boutons_deux]

"to get a deal with Iran to prevent them from developing nukes."

Trash broke OBAMA's JPCOA which the other 5 or 6 parties said was working.

Repugs hated JPCOA because is was success by the Dems, whom they consider illegit. Any success by the Dems must be blocked or destroyed.

Trash alone said OBAMA's deal was a bad deal (because he hates Obama).

Where's Trash's evidence that, IN HIS OPINION, Iran under JPCOA was developing nuclear weapons?

Everything is personal centered on him, with Trash, which includes nuclear geopolitics.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1143200188749832193

[boutons_deux]

Where is Trash/Bolton/Pompeo hard EVIDENCE that Iran was, is developing nuclear weapons?

And who the FUCK is USA to decide who has nuclear weapons?

[ducks]

The USA is
America first do not like it move to Iran

[ducks]

Gen. Jack Keane: Trump is first president in 39 years to be on 'strategic offensive' against Iran

[Winehole23]

Gen. Jack Keane: Trump is first president in 39 years to be on 'strategic offensive' against IranGreat, what's the political objective?

Right now we're driving the Iranian people into the camp of the hardliners and showing the whole world we can't be trusted to make a deal with

[Chris]

Eliminating the non-Iranian mullahs who control Iran, and squashing their Dar-ul-Solh.

[Ghazi]

America can't do a damn thing to us -Imam Khomeini

[boutons_deux]

If USA hits Iran, oil will spike, and USA drivers will pay dearly (to BigOil to make $10Bs more)

Objective?

What risk is Iran to USA?

Where's the evidence that Iran is developing nuclear weapons?

Why does USA keep fucking up countries with FAILING regime change?

Yall rightwingnutjobs are really stupid, ignorant mofos, are EXACTLY why America can't make progress cause y'all elect FUCKING Repugs.

[Winehole23]

Eliminating the non-Iranian mullahs who control Iran, and squashing their Dar-ul-Solh.Please tell us about the non-Iranian mullahs running Iran, this is a new one on me. Are they co-religionists from Iraq?

Do you represent the genuine Iranian nationalism, Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656)?

[Winehole23]

Wasn't the Imam Ali born in Najaf? Is it really so weird that Shia scholars come from there?

[ElNono]

Please tell us about the non-Iranian mullahs running Iran, this is a new one on me. Are they co-religionists from Iraq?

Do you represent the genuine Iranian nationalism, Chris (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1656)?

Well, obviously, we'll be greeted as liberators... heard det one before...

[Reck]

America can't do a damn thing to us -Imam Khomeini

Not according to this brilliant Trumper. :lol

https://twitter.com/MaryMarshaki/status/1143386744609546240

:lol Freeze!

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/A9D8798X9HE/maxresdefault.jpg

[Winehole23]

If Trump didn't want war, why did he hire Bolton and Pompeo?


Iran has long been the unprincipled exception to Trump’s opposition to Middle Eastern quagmires. His desire to undo the Obama presidency predisposed him to unraveling the nuclear deal and led him to folly in Yemen. Now it might prompt him to redo the foreign policy mistakes that toppled the Bush dynasty, paving the way for a socialist to become the next commander-in-chief.https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/war-with-iran-would-make-trump-a-one-term-president/

[Ghazi]

USA created Islamic State and supports Saudi Arabia, but Iran is the radical regime that supports terrorists... yeah OK. You cant make up how sad and pathetic Trump Bolton and Pompeo are..they bank on an ignorant American population to spew such lies... more and more people are becoming woke though

[boutons_deux]

If Trump didn't want war, why did he hire Bolton and Pompeo?

https://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/war-with-iran-would-make-trump-a-one-term-president/

As with Leonard Leo's politicized judges, the Repug swamp pushes its assholes at Trash, who has no idea of who the people are, ignores vetting and red flags.

[baseline bum]

USA created Islamic State and supports Saudi Arabia, but Iran is the radical regime that supports terrorists... yeah OK. You cant make up how sad and pathetic Trump Bolton and Pompeo are..they bank on an ignorant American population to spew such lies... more and more people are becoming woke though

WTF has Iran ever done to the US? Now we have overthrown their government to install a puppet. So them overthrowing that puppet is their mortal sin against us?

[boutons_deux]

WTF has Iran ever done to the US? Now we have overthrown their government to install a puppet. So them overthrowing that puppet is their mortal sin against us?

It's USA executing its foreign policy to please AIPAC $$$ / Israel / evangelicals (who always want to attack Muslims, for the fun of it. Fuck religion).

Shiite Iran has been supporting Hezbollah and Hamas as they attack Israel.

I'm sure SA's Wahhabis are in on that action, but Trash is not talking about bombing Sunni Saudi Arabia,

and I figure USA is attacking Shiite Iran to please SA's Sunnis, who would probably join in when USA attacks Iran.

and of, and always, there's oil. Oil and religion, but them both to hell.

[Ghazi]

WTF has Iran ever done to the US? Now we have overthrown their government to install a puppet. So them overthrowing that puppet is their mortal sin against us?

Not much. OTOH, USA is responsible for the 1953 coup, unleashing Saddam, and sanctions and shooting down the airliner.

No reasonable Iranian would be pro-American

[boutons_deux]

Trump flips out and threatens ‘obliteration’ after

Iran calls him retarded :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/06/trump-flips-out-and-threatens-obliteration-after-iran-calls-him-retarded/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=389

the dotard of retard, gotta love the prosaic alliteration

[boutons_deux]

good article arguing why Iran was not the shooter

Eve of Destruction: Iran Strikes Back (https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/24/eve-of-destruction-iran-strikes-back/)

It seemed beyond credibility that

Iran would attack a Japanese tanker, the Kokuka Courageous, at the moment the Prime Minister of Japan was sitting down with Ayatollah Khamenei in Tehran.

After all, Iran is eager to keep its oil exports flowing, so it would hardly want to so flagrantly insult one of its top oil customers.

Nor did it seem to make sense that Iran would target a Norwegian vessel, Front Altair.

That tanker is owned the shipping company, Frontline, which belongs to Norway’s richest man (before he moved to Cyprus), John Fredriksen.

Fredriksen made his fortune moving Iranian oil during the Iran-Iraq war,

Fredriksen’s Frontline company has continued to help Iran move its oil in a way that evades sanctions. A friendlier resource Iran has not.

This is the guy Iran chose to target ... ?

All of this—

the history of US false-flags and war-justifying lies, the specifics of the targets hit, and the risibility of the evidence presented—

made it very difficult for the Trump Administration to assemble a critical mass of domestic or international consent for a military attack on Iran.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/24/eve-of-destruction-iran-strikes-back/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/24/eve-of-destruction-iran-strikes-back/)

Embargoes are opportunities to make fortunes.

I knew a German, ex-German air force pilot, who airlifted supplies to Biafra through AA fire, came back to Germany, paid cash to build a fantastic house.

[boutons_deux]

Trump May Already be in Too Deep to Avoid War With Iran (https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/25/trump-may-already-in-too-deep-to-avoid-war-with-iran/)

The US is not going to launch an all-out war against Iran in pursuit of a decisive victory and anything less creates more problems than it resolves.

Iran would certainly retain post-strike the ability to launch pin-prick attacks up and down the Gulf and, especially, in and around the 35-mile wide Strait of Hormuz through which passes 30 per cent of the world’s oil trade.

news of the shooting down of the drone immediately sent the price of benchmark Brent crude oil rocketing upwards by 4.75 per cent.

after the failure of the US ground forces to win in Iraq and Afghanistan, not to mention Somalia, no US leader can start a land war in the Middle East without endangering their political survival at home.

A senior Iraqi official once said to me that the Iranians “have a PhD” in this type of part political, part military warfare.

They are tactics that have worked well for Tehran in Lebanon, Iraq and Syria over the past 40 years.

The Iranians have many pressure points against the US, and above all against its Saudi and Emirati allies in the Gulf.

Trump is an isolationist, but he is also a populist national leader who claims in his first campaign rallies for the next presidential election to “have made America great again”.

Such boasts make it difficult to not retaliate against Iran, a country he has demonised as the source of all the troubles in the Middle East.

the limited military conflict between the US and Iran called the “tanker war”. This was part of the Iran-Iraq war in the 1980s and the US came out the winner.

Israel, Saudi Arabia and UAE may have urged Trump to tear up the nuclear deal and confront Iran,

but they show no enthusiasm to join any war that ensues. :lol

Trump thinks he can avoid the quagmire of another Middle East war, but he may already be in too deep.

https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/25/trump-may-already-in-too-deep-to-avoid-war-with-iran/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2019/06/25/trump-may-already-in-too-deep-to-avoid-war-with-iran/)

[boutons_deux]

fatfuck Repugs are fucking stupid, ignorant, other-worldly as spurtalkers

Pompeo says U.S. has done all it can to de-escalate Iran situation

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-iran-usa-pompeo/pompeo-says-u-s-has-done-all-it-can-to-de-escalate-iran-situation-idUSKCN1TR2GE?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-iran-usa-pompeo/pompeo-says-u-s-has-done-all-it-can-to-de-escalate-iran-situation-idUSKCN1TR2GE?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29)

I suppose this obese fatfuck thinks he's some kind of geopolitical diplomat

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1146540403518267392

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UK Marines have seized an Iranian ship carrying oil to Syria

[Winehole23]

UK Marines have seized an Iranian ship carrying oil to SyriaEconomic sanctions on Iran/Syria/Venezuela are the moral and military equivalent of the medieval town siege -- it's a war tactic.

The people who suffer and die from US sanctions are usually not the bad guys we want out; the resulting suffering and death tend to drive them into the arms of anti-US hardliners.

[boutons_deux]

Trump to Iran: 'Better Be Careful' :lol

https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/trump-iran-better-be-careful?utm_term=OZY&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PDB_07082019 (https://www.voanews.com/middle-east/trump-iran-better-be-careful?utm_term=OZY&utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=PDB_07082019)

Who is America to decide who does or doesn't get nukelar weapons?


btw, US military is all excited, HUGE hard on, for (developing) tactical nukes (intended to bomb OTHER countries, of course)

[TSA]

1149086557556445184

[boutons_deux]

Trash breaks the Obama deal (because it's an Obama deal) while expecting Iran to comply

Who is USA to dictate who and who doesn't get nukes?

[boutons_deux]

New leak claims Trump scrapped Iran nuclear deal 'to spite Obama'

Sir Kim Darroch described the move as an act of "diplomatic vandalism",

It says the memo was written after the then Foreign Secretary

Boris Johnson appealed to the US in 2018 to stick with the nuclear deal. (https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44018068)
Sir Kim wrote that President Trump appeared to be abandoning the nuclear deal for "personality reasons" because the pact had been agreed by his predecessor, Barack Obama.

The British ambassador is said to have highlighted

splits amongst US presidential advisors and

that the White House did not have a "day-to-day" strategy of what to do following withdrawal from the deal. :lol Trash chaos

Sir Kim wrote a memo to Mr Johnson, saying:

"The outcome illustrated the paradox of this White House:

you got exceptional access,

seeing everyone short of the president;

but on the substance,

the administration is set upon an act of diplomatic vandalism,

seemingly for ideological and personality reasons - it was Obama's deal.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48978484 (https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-48978484)

[Pavlov]

1149086557556445184isis-online is an extremely unfortunate site name tbh.

[Spurtacular]

Sperm sielder reporting for duty!

Par.

[Pavlov]

[Posting only about men on this board!]
Par.

[Spurtacular]

Par.

Spectacularly failed narrative. Par.

[boutons_deux]

all the bullshit propaganda about Iran breaking the Obama+5-nations IRAN deal

is smoke screen covering the strategy of Repugs spitefully destroying anything, esp GOOD things, the Dems aka illegitimate opposition, did

plus dickless, ignorant, out-of-his-depth, sicko Trash shitting on his vastly superior predecessor, terrorist Muslim knitter Barack HUSSEIN Obama

[Pavlov]

Spectacularly failed narrative. Par.
Still only posting about other men on this board. Par

[Spurtacular]

Still only posting about other men on this board. Par

You're not a man. You're a sperm shield.

[Pavlov]

You're not a man. You're a sperm shield.Failed narrative. Par.
Still only posting about other men on this board. Par.

[Spurtacular]

Failed narrative. Par.


You consistently sperm shield. You're a failure.

[Pavlov]

You consistently sperm shield. You're a failure.Still only posting about other men on this board. You're a failure.

[Spurtacular]

Still only posting about other men on this board. You're a failure.

You're not a man, you're a sperm shield. We covered this.

[Pavlov]

You're not a man, you're a sperm shield. We covered this.Of course I'm a man. You cry out for me at night like all the other men you cry out for at night. We covered this.

Now post only about men here some more. Prove me right. Par.

[Spurtacular]

Of course I'm a man. You cry out for me at night like all the other men you cry out for at night. We covered this.

Now post only about men here some more. Prove me right. Par.

This is a message board, not your craigslist m4m.

:lmao Homo Chump

[Pavlov]

This is a message board, not your craigslist m4m.

:lmao Homo ChumpAnd yet you still cry out for men here in the night.

lol loney derp

[Spurtacular]

And yet you still cry out for men here in the night.

lol loney derp

Fictional prose. Par.

[Pavlov]

Fictional prose. Par.Nope. You do it.

Constantly.

Par.

[Spurtacular]

:cry Muh last word :cry

:lol

Now last out and tell me I can have it. :tu