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hater
05-08-2018, 12:59 PM
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Last I heard they were going to try to keep the deal minus the US :lmao
Doubtful tbqh
Israel now has green light to nuke Iran
Enjoy last few days on Gods green earth nigas
hater
05-08-2018, 01:01 PM
:lmao
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Nathan89
05-08-2018, 01:01 PM
Is this World War 4?:lmao
Pavlov
05-08-2018, 01:02 PM
Is this World War 4?:lmaoHe's up to 8.
Nathan89
05-08-2018, 01:06 PM
He's up to 8.
Wouldn't doubt it tbh. Dude seems to like fear mongering.
apalisoc_9
05-08-2018, 01:12 PM
How much you getting paid by putin brah?
AaronY
05-08-2018, 01:36 PM
What is the conservative solution to Iran anyways? like the serious well thought out argument that will get Iran to comply knowing there's very little chance we are going to war there in the near future
Not trolling i honestly don't know what their points are other than the Obama deal was horrible
Cuppycake Gumdrop
05-08-2018, 01:40 PM
What is the conservative solution to Iran anyways? like the serious well thought out argument that will get Iran to comply knowing there's very little chance we are going to war there in the near future
Not trolling i honestly don't know what their points are other than the Obama deal was horrible
If Obama liked it, it’s bad. That’s their only reasoning.
ducks
05-08-2018, 01:42 PM
How much you getting paid by putin brah?
Ben Rhodes just admitted Trump has no support from Russia! Wow!
Cuppycake Gumdrop
05-08-2018, 01:42 PM
I mean, the Iran Deal is kind of a nutless, kick the can deal only a Democrat would love. But it’s better than no deal at all.
AaronY
05-08-2018, 01:42 PM
If Obama liked it, it’s bad. That’s their only reasoning.
Lmao thats literally all I see. Its good in a way as now its their problem and they can take ownership of or at least they should. I know they will find a way to not take any personal responsibility and pawn it off on the Dems still but that tactic shouldnt work now
AaronY
05-08-2018, 01:43 PM
Ben Rhodes just admitted Trump has no support from Russia! Wow!
What is your plan for dealing with Iran?
boutons_deux
05-08-2018, 01:43 PM
If Obama liked it, it’s bad. That’s their only reasoning.
yep, Trash is still traumatized, even PSTD, from the Obama demolishing, ridiculing, ROASTING him at WHCD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8TwRmX6zs4
totally racist so-called billionaire don't like being trashed by a knitter, esp not in front of VIPs.
ducks
05-08-2018, 01:43 PM
not giving them cash!
AaronY
05-08-2018, 01:46 PM
lmao ducks plan is solely doing the opposite of obama. This is like the episode where costanza does the opposite of whatever his instinct is
AaronY
05-08-2018, 01:47 PM
"Hmmm what should I do?"
"Well Obama would..."
"Thats great do the opposite?"
hopefully obama will continue to give his opinions on stuff so they dont run out of ideas
spurraider21
05-08-2018, 01:49 PM
What is your plan for dealing with Iran?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8Ua-LHS3CM
ducks
05-08-2018, 01:50 PM
lmao ducks plan is solely doing the opposite of obama. This is like the episode where costanza does the opposite of whatever his instinct is
you would give them unmarked billions?
they broke treaty
trump smart get out
AaronY
05-08-2018, 01:51 PM
you would give them unmarked billions?
they broke treaty
trump smart get out
Not giving them money is the start of your plan. Whats the rest?
AaronY
05-08-2018, 01:52 PM
I mean they are a sovereign country with oil to sell and so they can use that oil money to make nukes if they want. Other than going to war I don't see how to stop them especially if you think they will lie anytime they come to an agreement not to build nukes like you think theyre lying now
spurraider21
05-08-2018, 01:53 PM
Not giving them money is the start of your plan. Whats the rest?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bh_02xGLD4s
spurraider21
05-08-2018, 01:54 PM
im anticipating ducks' answers or answers that will be equally useful
hope i'm helping
Pavlov
05-08-2018, 01:54 PM
you would give them unmarked billions?
they broke treaty
trump smart get outhow break treaty?
CosmicCowboy
05-08-2018, 02:16 PM
Dumbass thinks the shit that worked on the DPRK will work in Iran. Stupid. We dont have China to arm twist for us there and Russia will be stirring the pot.
AaronY
05-08-2018, 02:20 PM
Dumbass thinks the shit that worked on the DPRK will work in Iran. Stupid. We dont have China to arm twist for us there and Russia will be stirring the pot.What would you do? Genuinely curious. seems like no good options
boutons_deux
05-08-2018, 02:21 PM
I don't hear Repug politicians objecting, rather acquiescing with their silence.
Fuck Trash, fuck Repugs, and fuck all you Repug voters. YOU are the main problem with AmeriKKKa through the politicians you elect.
shocking that the move comes just days after iran dropped the dollar.
ducks
05-08-2018, 02:23 PM
Shortly after Trump's announcement the US was withdrawing from the deal, the Iranian currency plunged to a record low.
spurraider21
05-08-2018, 02:24 PM
now go post that in the kawhi leonard thread
ducks
05-08-2018, 02:25 PM
yes mommy
boutons_deux
05-08-2018, 02:31 PM
shocking that the move comes just days after iran dropped the dollar.
Pootin has been cultivating Turkey and Iran
"While meeting with Russian President Vladimir Putin in November, Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei said that the best way to beat US sanctions against the two countries was joint efforts to dump the American currency in bilateral trade.
He told President Putin that by using methods such as eliminating the US dollar and replacing it with national currencies in transactions between two or more parties,
the sides could “isolate the Americans.”"
https://www.rt.com/business/420197-iran-farewell-us-dollar/
ducks
05-08-2018, 02:33 PM
“The so-called Iran deal was supposed to protect the United States and our allies from the lunacy of an Iranian nuclear bomb, a weapon that will only endanger the survival of the Iranian regime. In fact, the deal allowed Iran to continue enriching uranium and over time reach the brink of a nuclear blackout.”
“Today, we have definitive proof that this Iranian promise was a lie,” Trump said.
Note: The Director of National Intelligence, Secretary of State and Secretary of Defense have all said in last two months they are complying with the deal.
CosmicCowboy
05-08-2018, 02:42 PM
What would you do? Genuinely curious. seems like no good options
Basically, we get used to the idea of a nuclear Iran and Saudi Arabia.
boutons_deux
05-08-2018, 02:44 PM
What Trump’s decision on Iran nuclear deal means for oil prices
"The price of West Texas Intermediate crude topped $70 a barrel Monday for the first time since 2014
amid fears that renewed U.S. sanctions would
require international companies to buy less Iranian oil or face stiff penalties."
Oil experts estimate that renewed sanctions could take about 350,000 to 500,000 barrels a day of Iranian crude off world markets within months, a modest but meaningful amount.
And more could be at risk later, potentially adding $7 a barrel to world prices, a Goldman Sachs report to investors said.
Iran exports about 2.6 million barrels a day.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/what-trumps-decision-on-iran-nuclear-deal-means-for-oil-prices/2018/05/07/c202d2be-4fcf-11e8-b725-92c89fe3ca4c_story.html?utm_term=.675338d81442
Cuppycake Gumdrop
05-08-2018, 02:51 PM
so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?
baseline bum
05-08-2018, 02:57 PM
Netenyahu finally has his useful idiot in Washington to goad into fighting Israel's war.
Trill Clinton
05-08-2018, 03:09 PM
If any, what are the positives from breaking from the deal?
ducks
05-08-2018, 03:11 PM
If any, what are the positives from breaking from the deal?
iran was not keeping them
now sancations coming get them to comply!
SpursforSix
05-08-2018, 03:12 PM
iran was not keeping them
now sancations coming get them to comply!
real talk though...why did you offer to pee in from of someone's daughter?
ducks
05-08-2018, 03:13 PM
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spurraider21
05-08-2018, 03:14 PM
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ducks
05-08-2018, 03:16 PM
Barack Obama
37 mins ·
There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.
The reality is clear. The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense. The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program. And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea. Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.
That is why today’s announcement is so misguided. Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated. In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next. But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major powers.
Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive. So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.
First, the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran. It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.
Second, the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program. For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.
Third, the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.
Fourth, Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal, and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire. The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.
Finally, the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran. We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors. But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained. Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.
Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake. Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East. We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon. It could embolden an already dangerous regime; threaten our friends with destruction; pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region. If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.
In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies. Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.
I THOUGHT SOCIAL MEDIA BAD FORMER PRESIDENT!
Cuppycake Gumdrop
05-08-2018, 03:17 PM
so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?
SpursforSix
05-08-2018, 03:19 PM
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Let's work through why you wanted to pee in front of a 13 year old girl.
Then we can talk politics.
hater
05-08-2018, 03:23 PM
I mean, the Iran Deal is kind of a nutless, kick the can deal only a Democrat would love. But it’s better than no deal at all.
Yup it was kick the can or war. Now theres no can
hater
05-08-2018, 03:26 PM
What is your plan for dealing with Iran?
Theres no plan. Its war
Its the beginning of the end
hater
05-08-2018, 03:30 PM
If any, what are the positives from breaking from the deal?
Lots if you own stocks in BAE , Northrop, etc
hater
05-08-2018, 03:36 PM
Hey ducks how many of ur ducklings are signing up to go over to Iran and die for Israel?
Hope lots. Would make Trump proud
hater
05-08-2018, 03:53 PM
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Trill Clinton
05-08-2018, 03:55 PM
iran was not keeping them
now sancations coming get them to comply!
How do we benefit?
hater
05-08-2018, 03:57 PM
Wow
Israeli troll farms blowing up twitter :wow
Them nigas roll deep
Making russian troll farms look like sahara desert flowers
hater
05-08-2018, 04:02 PM
Bombing already started
Apparently Israel is afraid of a preemptive strike so they went ahead and preempted it :lmao
They are also opening their bomb shelters :lmao
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Flex those assholes nigas and prepare to receive a nuclear tippd 14 incher
boutons_deux
05-08-2018, 04:04 PM
where is the impartial (not Israeli self-interested "fake news") evidence that Iran was not complying?
hater
05-08-2018, 04:08 PM
Of course US mainstream media also forgot to inform us that just yesterday Lebanon elections gave huge gains to Iranian backed party. Iran basically owns Lebanon now.
If theres a war its going to be at least in 3 countries, lebanon, syria, iran
Thats not physically possible with just a US/Israeli force
Most likely there will be sporadic bombings and sabre rattling before the Big One
Tighted those assholes boys
ducks
05-08-2018, 04:08 PM
Retired Delta Force General: Trump ditching Iran deal a 'sterling example of international leadership'
ducks
05-08-2018, 04:10 PM
KAZIANIS: Trump killing deeply flawed Iran deal is the right move
spurraider21
05-08-2018, 04:11 PM
oh kazianis said it? that changes everything
ducks
05-08-2018, 04:17 PM
oh kazianis said it? that changes everything
better the YOU or ..
Chris
05-08-2018, 04:20 PM
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Chris
05-08-2018, 04:35 PM
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"Did I say Muslim? I meant Christian faith! Yeah, that's the ticket!"
spurraider21
05-08-2018, 04:42 PM
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"Did I say Muslim? I meant Christian faith! Yeah, that's the ticket!"
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: You mentioned your Christian faith. Yesterday, you took after the Republicans for suggesting you have Muslim connections. Just a few minutes ago, Rick Davis, John McCain’s campaign manager, said they’ve never done that. This is a false and cynical attempt to play victim.
SEN. OBAMA:You know what, these guys love to throw a rock and hide their hands.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: But the McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections.
SEN. OBAMA: No. No. No. But I don’t think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let’s say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks …
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: But John McCain said that’s wrong.
SEN. OBAMA: Listen, you and I both know that the minute that Governor Palin was forced to talk about her daughter, I immediately said that’s off limits. And …
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: And John McCain said the same thing about questioning your faith.
SEN. OBAMA: And what was the first thing the McCain campaign went out and did? They said, look, these liberal blogs that support Obama are out there attacking Governor Palin. Let’s not play games. What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith, and you’re absolutely right that that has not come …
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS (interrupting): Your Christian faith.
SEN. OBAMA: My Christian faith — well, what I’m saying is …
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS (interrupting): Connections, right.
SEN. OBAMA: … that he hasn’t suggested that I’m a Muslim, and I think that his campaign upper echelons haven’t either. What I think is fair to say is that coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I’m not what who I say I am when it comes to my faith, something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time.
OMG THAT MEANS HE'S A SEEKRIT MOOSLEM
Pavlov
05-08-2018, 04:48 PM
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"Did I say Muslim? I meant Christian faith! Yeah, that's the ticket!":lmao Chris and his fake news.
hater
05-08-2018, 04:48 PM
Debate all you want wether Iran deal was good or bad nigas
That ship has sailed
Now its wartime
Hope your children are all signed up to the army tbqh. Israel gonna need their sacrifice
ducks
05-08-2018, 05:02 PM
Democrats’ near-universal condemnation of President Trump’s decision to withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal conveniently overlooks the fact that not enough Democrats supported it to achieve Senate ratification.
Trump on Tuesday announced the United States would withdraw from the agreement, formally known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). Trump branded the deal “disastrous.”
Obama loyalists knew all along that the deal structured in 2015 as an agreement rather than a treaty could be swept away by the stroke of a pen. But without enough votes to win Senate ratification, they instead gambled the JCPOA would be very difficult to dismantle once it was in place.
Former President Barack Obama on Tuesday called Trump’s move to dismantle his signature foreign policy initiative “a serious mistake,” saying it could eventually force the United States to make “a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East.”
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi called it “a sad day.” Ranking Senate Intelligence Committee member Sen. Mark Warner predicted Trump’s decision would drive “a wedge between us and our allies.”
The Senate’s No. 2 Democrat, Dick Durbin of Illinois, called it a “mistake of historic proportions.” And Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer protested, “There are no reports that Iran has violated the agreement.”
Republicans won control of the Senate in November 2014, and were nearly universal in their criticism of the deal the former president struck in April 2015. Several Democrats opposed it as well. Under Article 2, Section 2 of the U.S. Constitution, treaties are ratified “providing two-thirds of the senators present concur.”
“Iran will not change,” Schumer said at the time, “And under this agreement it will be able to achieve its dual goals of eliminating sanctions while ultimately retaining its nuclear and non-nuclear power.”
Sen. Joe Lieberman, the Independent Democrat from Connecticut, remarked “…there is much more risk for America and reward for Iran than should be in this agreement.”
Perhaps the sharpest Democratic criticism came from Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey.
“The deal doesn’t end Iran’s nuclear program,” he declared. “It preserves it.”
Several Democratic members of the House spoke out against the deal. Rep. Eliot Engel of New York, for example, warned it “may in fact strengthen Iran’s position as a destabilizing and destructive influence across the Middle East.”
Democratic representatives Steve Israel of New York and Brad Sherman of California also expressed skepticism and disappointment.
AaronY
05-08-2018, 05:06 PM
The Muslims elected Obama so he could kill Bin Laden for them
AaronY
05-08-2018, 05:07 PM
They were kind of getting tired of him every time he would show up at a party he would brag about how he did 9/11
hater
05-08-2018, 05:11 PM
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Chris
05-08-2018, 05:27 PM
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Chris
05-08-2018, 05:33 PM
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hater
05-08-2018, 05:34 PM
“I will enlist my little boy to go fight for Israel ASAP”
Do it Mr Trump
Set the example
hater
05-08-2018, 05:36 PM
Earlier, Russian senators warned about potential serious consequences of the US withdrawal from the deal. “If this information [about Trump’s plans to abandon the deal] is confirmed, the situation will become worse than it was before the deal was reached,” the deputy head of the Russian Federation Council’s Foreign Affairs Committee, Vladimir Dzhabarov, told the RIA news agency, commenting on the issue before Trump made his announcement.
The US leader apparently seeks to renegotiate the deal on his own terms by forcing Iran to yield to the US' demands, the Russian senator said. He added, though, that Trump also “double-crosses his partners in the EU and NATO by taking such a decision.”
“By abandoning the Iran deal, Trump takes yet another incautious step,” Aleksey Pushkov, the head of the Information Policy Committee of the Russian parliament’s upper house, said in a Twitter post. He then also warned that such a decision would leave the US in “quasi-isolation,” as it was in case of moving the US embassy to Jerusalem.
hater
05-08-2018, 05:38 PM
Intersting. Europe vows to push US back
Wonder how lomg this will last. IMO not very long as European countries are spineless servants :lmao
The sanctions Trump will reintroduce are not just limiting U.S. dealings with Iran, but will also penalize other countries. That will lead to a flurry of protective measures as at least some of those other countries will limit their exposure to U.S. rules and may even introduce counter sanctions:
“We are working on plans to protect the interests of European companies” Maja Kocijancic, EU spokeswoman for foreign affairs, told reporters in Brussel.
Chris
05-08-2018, 05:39 PM
^^Sounds like the Council on Foreign Relations. Globalist warmongers.
hater
05-08-2018, 05:40 PM
Ma niga from moonofalabama with truth nukes:
U.S. credibility has been seriously damaged. Its soft power is gone. Its hard power has shown to be inadequate in Afghanistan, Iraq and Syria.
China and Russia are both making huge deals with Iran and are now effectively its protectors. While they have no common ideology all three oppose a globalized world under exclusive "western" rules. They have the economic power, the population and resources to do so. Neither the U.S. nor Europe has come to terms with that.
Iran has not only new allies but gained in the Middle East because of U.S., Israeli and Saudi stupidity. The wars on Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and Yemen have all strengthened Iran's position while it largely kept largely out of them. The recent election in Lebanon went well for the 'resistance' camp. Within Lebanon Hizbullah can no longer be challenged. The upcoming elections in Iraq will result in another Iran-friendly government. The Syrian army is winning the war waged against the country. The U.S. position in Afghanistan is hopeless. Saudi Arabia is now in a fight with the UAE over the war on Yemen. The GCC spat with Qatar is still unsolved.
Pavlov
05-08-2018, 05:42 PM
^^Sounds like the Council on Foreign Relations. Globalist warmongers.lol John Bolton
hater
05-08-2018, 05:42 PM
Ma nga B:
While Israel wants to keep Iran as a boogeyman to divert attention from its genocidal campaign against Palestinians, it does not want a large war. Hizbullah in Lebanon has enough missiles to make modern life in Israel untenable. A war on Iran could easily end up with Tel Aviv in flames.
There are some people in the Trump administration who will want to wage war on Iran. The Bush administration also had such plans. But any war gaming of a campaign against Iran ended badly for the U.S. and its allied states. The Gulf countries are extremely vulnerable. Their oil output could be shut down within days. That situation has not changed. The U.S. is now in a worse strategic position than it was after the invasion of Iraq. As long as somewhat sane people lead the Pentagon they will urge the White House not to launch such an endeavor.
The U.S. withdrawal from the nuclear deal is a huge mistake. Defense Secretary Mattis spoke against it. Will Trump make an even bigger mistake despite the opinion of his military advisors? Will he wage war on Iran?
hater
05-08-2018, 05:43 PM
:lmao this comment:
Congrats to the dimwitted MAGAClowns.
Your dumb god emperor is nothing more than a humiliated little poodle for the Israeli and Saudi regimes.
Europe, Russia, Iran, Syria, Lebanon, and China all just became a single unified block against the increasingly irrelevant American empire.
hater
05-08-2018, 05:46 PM
A very good take:
The nuclear deal, for the United States, was an agreement by the previous president on a "plan of action" regarding restrictions on Iran's nuclear activities. This deal was not a treaty with advice and consent by the Senate according to the Constitution. As long as some presidents ignore the Constitution and make agreements on their own with other countries, they shouldn't be surprised when other presidents nullify them. (Bush-43 did the same thing on Iraq withdrawal as Obama did with Iran nuclear.)
Participation of the U.S. in this plan of action is now canceled, and U.S. sanctions on Iran will be enhanced. There will be no United Nations sanctions, and probably the other parties to the agreement will adhere to the plan's strictures while increasing ties with Iran. The Trump withdrawal in fact clarifies the U.S. position which was dismissive of the plan anyhow, with the U.S. not adhering to its terms under the new president.
This change may not hurt Iran much, as other parties to the plan continue to adhere to it and compensate for the U.S. withdrawal by using foreign currencies in Iran trade, etc. The price of oil is increasing and there is increased demand for it. Iran's ties with Russia, China and India are stronger than ever, and the latter two are in great need of petroleum. The change also reduces U.S. influence in Europe and elsewhere, which is not a bad thing because it reduces U.S. world hegemony.
hater
05-08-2018, 05:49 PM
I just heard Trump said Iran supported Al Qaeda in his speech today
Is that true??? :lmao
Maga :lmao :lol :lol
Iran - Al Qaeda :lma :lol
Maga :lol
Chris
05-08-2018, 05:50 PM
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boutons_deux
05-08-2018, 05:51 PM
"Today's action sends a critical message: the United States no longer makes empty threats,"
Trump said.
"When I make promises, I keep them."
Trash is equating the USA with himself.
"L'etat, c'est moi"
and moi fucks everything, and esp things that knitter did
What about the promise of health care for everyone, better and cheaper? :lol
ducks
05-08-2018, 05:53 PM
Jeff Flake in 2015: I strongly oppose Obama's Iran deal.
Jeff Flake in 2018: We should have stayed in the Iran deal.
hater
05-08-2018, 05:55 PM
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MISAGA
Make Israeli and Saudi Armies Great Again :lmao
Pavlov
05-08-2018, 05:55 PM
993971067751358465So Trump just took those jobs away from Americans.
Chris
05-08-2018, 05:56 PM
Jeff Flake in 2015: I strongly oppose Obama's Iran deal.
Jeff Flake in 2018: We should have stayed in the Iran deal.
Flip floppin harder than John Kerry :lol
Chris
05-08-2018, 06:18 PM
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Pavlov
05-08-2018, 06:19 PM
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You'll have to be more specific.
boutons_deux
05-08-2018, 06:23 PM
where is the "definitive proof"? that Iran cheated?
And where is Trash's better deal?
boutons_deux
05-08-2018, 06:41 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-1/p80x80/19366050_10154996555246749_7115851506205968566_n.j pg?_nc_cat=0&oh=a26b5784852f25c1f3395930aee0753b&oe=5B5990B5
(https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/?ref=nf&hc_ref=ARSgphQuqwu2FXAJVrbrLWoeCVN6Oo9MQK_3sglcoPX jiyPK062hcZD2bpeb9X2FpH0)
Barack Obama (https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/?hc_ref=ARRjCyI6WS6UDayuJhVlA3dVw4P6HbdkwVSLxqu-iB4c2pNBn-Om4Xiwd7t2p2EfEos&fref=nf)
3 hrs (https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10155854913976749) ·
There are few issues more important to the security of the United States than the potential spread of nuclear weapons, or the potential for even more destructive war in the Middle East. That’s why the United States negotiated the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA) in the first place.
The reality is clear.
The JCPOA is working – that is a view shared by our European allies, independent experts, and the current U.S. Secretary of Defense.
The JCPOA is in America’s interest – it has significantly rolled back Iran’s nuclear program.
And the JCPOA is a model for what diplomacy can accomplish – its inspections and verification regime is precisely what the United States should be working to put in place with North Korea.
Indeed, at a time when we are all rooting for diplomacy with North Korea to succeed, walking away from the JCPOA risks losing a deal that accomplishes – with Iran – the very outcome that we are pursuing with the North Koreans.
That is why today’s announcement is so misguided.
Walking away from the JCPOA turns our back on America’s closest allies, and an agreement that our country’s leading diplomats, scientists, and intelligence professionals negotiated.
In a democracy, there will always be changes in policies and priorities from one Administration to the next.
But the consistent flouting of agreements that our country is a party to risks eroding America’s credibility, and puts us at odds with the world’s major powers.
Debates in our country should be informed by facts, especially debates that have proven to be divisive.
So it’s important to review several facts about the JCPOA.
First,
the JCPOA was not just an agreement between my Administration and the Iranian government. After years of building an international coalition that could impose crippling sanctions on Iran, we reached the JCPOA together with the United Kingdom, France, Germany, the European Union, Russia, China, and Iran.
It is a multilateral arms control deal, unanimously endorsed by a United Nations Security Council Resolution.
Second,
the JCPOA has worked in rolling back Iran’s nuclear program.
For decades, Iran had steadily advanced its nuclear program, approaching the point where they could rapidly produce enough fissile material to build a bomb. The JCPOA put a lid on that breakout capacity. Since the JCPOA was implemented, Iran has destroyed the core of a reactor that could have produced weapons-grade plutonium; removed two-thirds of its centrifuges (over 13,000) and placed them under international monitoring; and eliminated 97 percent of its stockpile of enriched uranium – the raw materials necessary for a bomb. So by any measure, the JCPOA has imposed strict limitations on Iran's nuclear program and achieved real results.
Third,
the JCPOA does not rely on trust – it is rooted in the most far-reaching inspections and verification regime ever negotiated in an arms control deal. Iran’s nuclear facilities are strictly monitored. International monitors also have access to Iran’s entire nuclear supply chain, so that we can catch them if they cheat. Without the JCPOA, this monitoring and inspections regime would go away.
Fourth,
Iran is complying with the JCPOA. That was not simply the view of my Administration. The United States intelligence community has continued to find that Iran is meeting its responsibilities under the deal,
and has reported as much to Congress. So have our closest allies, and the international agency responsible for verifying Iranian compliance – the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).
Fifth, the JCPOA does not expire.
The prohibition on Iran ever obtaining a nuclear weapon is permanent. Some of the most important and intrusive inspections codified by the JCPOA are permanent. Even as some of the provisions in the JCPOA do become less strict with time, this won’t happen until ten, fifteen, twenty, or twenty-five years into the deal, so there is little reason to put those restrictions at risk today.
Finally,
the JCPOA was never intended to solve all of our problems with Iran.
We were clear-eyed that Iran engages in destabilizing behavior – including support for terrorism, and threats toward Israel and its neighbors.
But that’s precisely why it was so important that we prevent Iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon.
Every aspect of Iranian behavior that is troubling is far more dangerous if their nuclear program is unconstrained.
Our ability to confront Iran’s destabilizing behavior – and to sustain a unity of purpose with our allies – is strengthened with the JCPOA, and weakened without it.
Because of these facts, I believe that the decision to put the JCPOA at risk without any Iranian violation of the deal is a serious mistake.
Without the JCPOA, the United States could eventually be left with a losing choice between a nuclear-armed Iran or another war in the Middle East.
We all know the dangers of Iran obtaining a nuclear weapon.
It could embolden an already dangerous regime;
threaten our friends with destruction;
pose unacceptable dangers to America’s own security; and
trigger an arms race in the world’s most dangerous region.
If the constraints on Iran’s nuclear program under the JCPOA are lost, we could be hastening the day when we are faced with the choice between living with that threat, or going to war to prevent it.
In a dangerous world, America must be able to rely in part on strong, principled diplomacy to secure our country. We have been safer in the years since we achieved the JCPOA, thanks in part to the work of our diplomats, many members of Congress, and our allies.
Going forward, I hope that Americans continue to speak out in support of the kind of strong, principled, fact-based, and unifying leadership that can best secure our country and uphold our responsibilities around the globe.
(https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10155854913976749)https://www.facebook.com/barackobama/posts/10155854913976749
Trash couldn't write the above. I bet Trash is dyslexic and/or otherwise mentally and emotionally FUCKED UP
Chris
05-08-2018, 06:42 PM
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"Did I say Muslim? I meant Christian faith! Yeah, that's the ticket!"
Pavlov
05-08-2018, 06:43 PM
Chris tries to push the fake news again.
SAD
Chris
05-08-2018, 06:44 PM
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"Did I say Muslim? I meant Christian faith! Yeah, that's the ticket!"
Pavlov
05-08-2018, 06:47 PM
.Chris tries to push the same fake news three times.
He's shook.
Chris
05-08-2018, 06:49 PM
Chris tries to push the same fake news three times.
He's shook.
It was almost like George was pulling the strings the way he talked down to Barry like that. Lawdy!
spurraider21
05-08-2018, 06:49 PM
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MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: You mentioned your Christian faith. Yesterday, you took after the Republicans for suggesting you have Muslim connections. Just a few minutes ago, Rick Davis, John McCain’s campaign manager, said they’ve never done that. This is a false and cynical attempt to play victim.
SEN. OBAMA:You know what, these guys love to throw a rock and hide their hands.
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: But the McCain campaign has never suggested you have Muslim connections.
SEN. OBAMA: No. No. No. But I don’t think that when you look at what is being promulgated on Fox News, let’s say, and Republican commentators who are closely allied to these folks …
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: But John McCain said that’s wrong.
SEN. OBAMA: Listen, you and I both know that the minute that Governor Palin was forced to talk about her daughter, I immediately said that’s off limits. And …
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS: And John McCain said the same thing about questioning your faith.
SEN. OBAMA: And what was the first thing the McCain campaign went out and did? They said, look, these liberal blogs that support Obama are out there attacking Governor Palin. Let’s not play games. What I was suggesting — you’re absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith, and you’re absolutely right that that has not come …
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS (interrupting): Your Christian faith.
SEN. OBAMA: My Christian faith — well, what I’m saying is …
MR. STEPHANOPOULOS (interrupting): Connections, right.
SEN. OBAMA: … that he hasn’t suggested that I’m a Muslim, and I think that his campaign upper echelons haven’t either. What I think is fair to say is that coming out of the Republican camp, there have been efforts to suggest that perhaps I’m not what who I say I am when it comes to my faith, something which I find deeply offensive, and that has been going on for a pretty long time.
Pavlov
05-08-2018, 06:51 PM
It was almost like George was pulling the strings the way he talked down to Barry like that. Lawdy!No. It's not like that at all.
You're so shook.
Chris
05-08-2018, 06:54 PM
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/993940992293326849.html
Great read if you want to know the details (Iran deal) :tu
hater
05-08-2018, 07:13 PM
Truth nuke imho
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hater
05-08-2018, 07:22 PM
Crazy that Bibi Netanyahu will be the message piegon for Trump to Putin
This is a fucked up world :lol
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hater
05-08-2018, 07:24 PM
Im sure Bibi, Putin and Trump are planning a concensus
None can be trusted tbqh
Bibi is a snake
Putin an ex KGB
And Trump a moron :lol
Chris
05-08-2018, 07:25 PM
Trump the master negotiator.
Modern day King Cyrus.
hater
05-08-2018, 07:28 PM
Trump the master negotiator.
Modern day King Cyrus.
If he pulls off world peace thru NK and Iran I will vote for him next elction
But sadly I doubt that will happen. Todays was just a stupid mistake and it could actually make N koreans say no deal
How can u trust this shithole country after they reneg deals tbqh :lmao
Th funnist thing tho are the shitty europeans :lmao
Those stupid bastards will fold in a few days and look worse than a bunch of US peasants :lmao :lol
Even countries like El Salvador, Haiti and Vanuatu will have more self rspect than the cuckropeans :lmao
Chris
05-08-2018, 07:30 PM
If he pulls off world peace thru NK and Iran I will vote for him next elction
But sadly I doubt that will happen. Todays was just a stupid mistake and it could actually make N koreans say no deal
How can u trust this shithole country after they reneg deals tbqh :lmao
Th funnist thing tho are the shitty europeans :lmao
Those stupid bastards will fold in a few days and look worse than a bunch of US peasants :lmao :lol
Even countries like El Salvador, Haiti and Vanuatu will have more self rspect than the cuckropeans :lmao
I have a good feeling he is going to earn your vote in 2020. :tu
hater
05-08-2018, 07:33 PM
I have a good feeling he is going to earn your vote in 2020. :tu
Hope so niga
Cause its either that or wiping our melted skin off our couches tbqh
Chris
05-08-2018, 07:37 PM
The usual talking heads doing damage control.
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hater
05-08-2018, 07:40 PM
Yeah those stupid fuck democrats look almost as cucky as the Europeans :lmao
They appoved sanctions to Iran and approved visa ban as well even after the deal.
They will be the first to send average american kids to die for israel if need be
They dont give a shit about the deal. They just hate Trump
Chris
05-08-2018, 07:48 PM
Yeah those stupid fuck democrats look almost as cucky as the Europeans :lmao
They appoved sanctions to Iran and approved visa ban as well even after the deal.
They will be the first to send average american kids to die for israel if need be
They dont give a shit about the deal. They just hate Trump
Basically yes. They are just pandering to their fanatical base to get votes and Trump is low hanging fruit.
Chris
05-08-2018, 07:53 PM
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ducks
05-08-2018, 08:06 PM
Yeah those stupid fuck democrats look almost as cucky as the Europeans :lmao
They appoved sanctions to Iran and approved visa ban as well even after the deal.
They will be the first to send average american kids to die for israel if need be
They dont give a shit about the deal. They just hate Trumpthey said bad deal when Obama signed it just like flake
Chris
05-08-2018, 08:06 PM
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hater
05-08-2018, 08:12 PM
Yeah no you cant blame it on Iran tbqh
They were very well contained until US invaded Iraq. That caused Iraq to fall under Iran umbrella
In Lebanon, ot was Israeli attacks which also brought Lebanon under Iran umbrella
And lastly it was Israel and th West who incited jihad in Syria and tried to overthrow assad. Assad was forced to let Iran com and help
So unless you can tell me Iran tricked US to invade Iraq, tricked Israel to attack Lebanon and tricked US/Israel to overthrow assad.... this is ALL US AND ISRAELI MADE PROBLEMS
THEIR WARMONGERING ACTUALLY HELPED IRAN BECOME WHAT IT IS
hater
05-08-2018, 08:13 PM
And now Iran has decent alliance with China and Russia so its many times more difficult adversary as it was around 2002
Chris
05-08-2018, 08:20 PM
Yeah no you cant blame it on Iran tbqh
They were very well contained until US invaded Iraq. That caused Iraq to fall under Iran umbrella
In Lebanon, ot was Israeli attacks which also brought Lebanon under Iran umbrella
And lastly it was Israel and th West who incited jihad in Syria and tried to overthrow assad. Assad was forced to let Iran com and help
So unless you can tell me Iran tricked US to invade Iraq, tricked Israel to attack Lebanon and tricked US/Israel to overthrow assad.... this is ALL US AND ISRAELI MADE PROBLEMS
THEIR WARMONGERING ACTUALLY HELPED IRAN BECOME WHAT IT IS
You are much more informed on it than I am tbh I'm just learning about a lot of these things.
AaronY
05-08-2018, 08:22 PM
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Lol thomas wictor
AaronY
05-08-2018, 08:23 PM
Please tell me you didnt manually pull out all those twitter codes and manually link them in there. Like 10 minutes of work lol
Trump uses hyperbole to call everything the best or the worst thing ever... but the Iraq invasion was truly the dumbest decision this country has ever made and we will be paying for it for centuries.
ducks
05-08-2018, 08:29 PM
Mnuchin: Boeing's Sales Licenses to Iran Will Be revoked!
John Bolton is on his way to bringing back the good ole' Bush years. Maybe they make Dick Cheney CIA Director while they're at it. No war to see here.
hater
05-08-2018, 09:14 PM
You are much more informed on it than I am tbh I'm just learning about a lot of these things.
Np
But yeah Iran would be an insignificant 3rd world shithole if we had not let the neocunts start messing around in the middle east
Now its a force to be reckoned with all thanks to us and pur stupidity for following Israel and crazy criminal Netanyahu
hater
05-08-2018, 09:18 PM
Israel has been fucking Iran for over 50 years tbqh
Not sure why they hate them so. They supported Saddam vs them. Supportd Saddam gassing them.
Imho I cant blame Iran for hatingon US and Israel as they have been fucked by them for so long
hater
05-08-2018, 09:19 PM
One thing I learned today is that Israeli troll farms put the rest of the world t shame
They run circles around everyone else tbqh
ElNono
05-08-2018, 09:20 PM
What is the conservative solution to Iran anyways?
Same solution as to Barrycare, tbh... still thinking about it after x years...
pgardn
05-08-2018, 11:48 PM
The Europeans are going to defy our sanctions now.
China and Russia never followed them. Pakistan and NK gained Nuclear capability because of this.
Iran might get the best of both worlds although I really think they long for the prosperity more. Iran has some very Western elements that like being apart of the economy of the world.
pgardn
05-08-2018, 11:50 PM
I have a good feeling he is going to earn your vote in 2020. :tu
Hope so niga
Cause its either that or wiping our melted skin off our couches tbqh
This pair together...
Wow... [Mental Instability]^2
baseline bum
05-09-2018, 12:27 AM
“I will enlist my little boy to go fight for Israel ASAP”
Do it Mr Trump
Set the example
His little boy is kind of slow, thought Kathy Griffin was holding daddy's head. Doubt he'd even be up to throwing puppies off cliffs much less fighting the Iranians.
Chris
05-09-2018, 12:35 AM
[Mental Instability]
You wrote the book.
pgardn
05-09-2018, 12:40 AM
You wrote the book.
About you white Chris.
Chris
05-09-2018, 12:56 AM
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pgardn
05-09-2018, 06:58 AM
So has Trump now lost the Nobel Peace Prize....? Where are we on this?
boutons_deux
05-09-2018, 07:06 AM
Effort to 'Provoke Iran'? Right After Trump Nuclear Deal Decision, Israel Launches Airstrikes in Syria
"Israel is going to try very hard to goad Iran into an escalation. They have been laying the groundwork for months."
Israel reportedly carried out airstrikes (https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/05/08/In%20the%20immediate%20wake%20of%20U.S.%20Presiden t%20Donald%20Trump's%20announcement%20that%20Ameri ca%20is%20withdrawing%20from%20the%20Iran%20nuclea r%20deal,%20Israel%20reportedly%20carried%20out%20 airstrikes%20against%20a%20Syrian%20government%20t arget%20south%20of%20Damascus%20and%20began%20mobi lizing%20its%20defense%20forces%20over%20what%20it %20claimed%20were%20%22abnormal%20movements%20of%2 0Iranian%20forces%20in%20Syria.%22) in Syria and began mobilizing its defense forces (https://www.timesofisrael.com/idf-alerts-golan-residents-over-abnormal-iranian-movement-in-syria/) over what it claimed were "abnormal movements of Iranian forces."
While the Israeli army said it fears Iran "is planning to carry out an imminent strike from Syria (https://twitter.com/mradamtaylor/status/993944986948460550)," critics were quick to cast serious doubt on this warning and argue it appears that Israel is the one attempting to pick a fight with Iran.
Yousef Munayyer, executive director of the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights, predicted (https://twitter.com/YousefMunayyer/status/993946069699526657) that "Israel is going to try very hard to goad Iran into an escalation."
"They have been laying the groundwork for months," Munayyer wrote.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2018/05/08/effort-provoke-iran-right-after-trump-nuclear-deal-decision-israel-launches
boutons_deux
05-09-2018, 07:27 AM
Trash’s Iran decision just brought us closer to war
President Trump’s decision to abrogate it (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-will-announce-plans-to-pull-out-of-iran-nuclear-deal-despite-pleas-from-european-leaders/2018/05/08/4c148252-52ca-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html?utm_term=.fb3f6e1352b8) over the opposition of our European allies and
without a clear strategy for replacing it
is reckless and, most likely, self-defeating.
Mr. Trump has
opened a rift with Britain, Germany and France,
who were partners to the pact along with Russia and China, and
he has handed Iran’s Islamic regime some unfortunate opportunities.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/trumps-iran-decision-just-brought-us-closer-to-war/2018/05/08/fdee4fde-52d5-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.70724d514c41
"Keepin America Safe" Repugs are the fucking worst assholes at geopolitics. Viet Nam, Iran (1953), Afghanistan, Iraq, all Repug disasters.
Raven
05-09-2018, 08:29 AM
meh, the way i see it, this deal was not getting the job done. The job being to bring stability and move the region towards disarmament. We can throw all the jokes we want, but the situation is not better than it was before the deal was struck, so it was right to throw it away.
boutons_deux
05-09-2018, 08:39 AM
meh, the way i see it, this deal was not getting the job done. The job being to bring stability and move the region towards disarmament. We can throw all the jokes we want, but the situation is not better than it was before the deal was struck, so it was right to throw it away.
The priority was to keep nukes out of Iran.
Everybody except Trash said that was working. The deal kill is an example of dickless Trash using any Pres power to bring attn to his sick self.
The M/E instability belongs to the Repugs. Show where the deal even addressed that
Raven
05-09-2018, 08:43 AM
The priority was to keep nukes out of Iran.
Everybody except Trash said that was working. TPhe deal kill is an example of dickless Trash using any Pres power to bring attn to his sick self.
The M/E instability belongs to the Repugs. Show where the deal even addressed that
That's exactly the point.. It was a deal to have a deal.. It didn't actually do anything imo
boutons_deux
05-09-2018, 09:33 AM
It didn't actually do anything imo
EVERYBODY but Trash and his dick-suckers said the deal was working to stop Iran's nuclear weapon program.
Cuppycake Gumdrop
05-09-2018, 10:21 AM
A Trump self-own for every occasion
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koriwhat
05-09-2018, 11:08 AM
Trash’s Iran decision just brought us closer to war
we now know who you cheer on. fuck iran & fuck obama for giving them a deal and our fucking money!
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 11:10 AM
we now know who you cheer on. fuck iran & fuck obama for giving them a deal and our fucking money!It was their money.
koriwhat
05-09-2018, 11:10 AM
Trash’s Iran decision just brought us closer to war
we now know who you cheer on. fuck iran & fuck obama for giving them a deal and our fucking money!
edit: damn shitty at&t internet double posting
koriwhat
05-09-2018, 11:12 AM
It was their money.
lol :rolleyes
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 11:14 AM
lol :rolleyesIt was. Iranian money frozen in US accounts.
lol you really don't know anything.
ducks
05-09-2018, 12:04 PM
It was. Iranian money frozen in US accounts.
lol you really don't know anything.
if so why not go thru congress?
boutons_deux
05-09-2018, 12:04 PM
The Europeans are going to defy our sanctions now.
China and Russia never followed them. Pakistan and NK gained Nuclear capability because of this.
Iran might get the best of both worlds although I really think they long for the prosperity more. Iran has some very Western elements that like being apart of the economy of the world.
France esp has some huge deals with Iran, will give Trash un grande bras d'hnneur et vas te foutre
ducks
05-09-2018, 12:06 PM
His little boy is kind of slow, thought Kathy Griffin was holding daddy's head. Doubt he'd even be up to throwing puppies off cliffs much less fighting the Iranians.
dam attacking kids now
very low blow
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 12:06 PM
if so why not go thru congress?Yeah, they'd be for that. Looks like the biggest seizures were done by the executive, so the executive could undo them.
hater
05-09-2018, 12:21 PM
Oil spikes to $77
Making Russia, Iran and Saudi great Again :lmao
baseline bum
05-09-2018, 12:42 PM
dam attacking kids now
very low blow
much worse than peeing in front of them, amirite?
Chris
05-09-2018, 01:12 PM
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koriwhat
05-09-2018, 01:12 PM
France esp has some huge deals with Iran, will give Trash un grande bras d'hnneur et vas te foutre
yeah they do... just look at how they're getting buttfucked daily in their own country by importing the same trash the like of which resides in iran.
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 01:12 PM
994118467795148800Yeah, they did that because :crybama.
:lmao
Monostradamus
05-09-2018, 01:20 PM
much worse than peeing in front of them, amirite?
:lmao
Monostradamus
05-09-2018, 01:20 PM
dam attacking kids now
very low blow
so you think I should pee infront of your 13 year old daughter?
Chris
05-09-2018, 02:03 PM
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:cry but DRUMPF :cry
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 02:10 PM
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:cry but DRUMPF :crySounds like something Dennison would say tbh.
Chris
05-09-2018, 03:32 PM
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spurraider21
05-09-2018, 03:34 PM
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identity politics good now
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 04:06 PM
What if the US pulled out of an agreement and no one cared?
Looks like all the other signatories are moving on without us -- just like the rest of the world.
Brazil
05-09-2018, 04:12 PM
It was their money.
lol :rolleyes
It was. Iranian money frozen in US accounts.
lol you really don't know anything.
:lmao
boutons_deux
05-09-2018, 04:14 PM
What if the US pulled out of an agreement and no one cared?
Looks like all the other signatories are moving on without us -- just like the rest of the world.
exactly what his BFF Pootin wants, USA isolated, breaking/withdrawn from int'l agreements, brconfusing/pissing off allies, all of which leave openings for Pootin and China to increase their influence and power.
Trash and his mafiya are FUCKING TRAITORS
I read where, apart from her history as torturer and destroyer of torture evidence, Haspel at CIA would "fix up the data" around the Treash/Pompeo/Bolton/MIC policy of starting shit with Iran. Trash's kids wouldn't enlist to help Papa Turd "keep his AmeriKKKA safe".
boutons_deux
05-09-2018, 04:41 PM
Oil soars after Trump nixes Iran nuclear deal, stocks rally
Crude oil prices rose more than 3 percent on Wednesday after U.S. President Donald Trump’s decision to withdraw from a nuclear accord with Iran, a move that helped lift equity markets as Exxon Mobil, Chevron and other oil majors rallied.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets/oil-soars-shares-rattled-as-trump-dumps-iran-nuclear-deal-idUSKBN1IA064?feedType=RSS&feedName=topNews&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+reuters%2FtopNews+%28News+%2F +US+%2F+Top+News%29
BigOil will certainly pour $Bs into Repug races, after taxpayers' gas bills transfer wealth to Capitalists.
Chris
05-09-2018, 04:48 PM
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boutons_deux
05-09-2018, 04:51 PM
Fact-checking President Trump’s reasons for leaving the Iran nuclear deal
We reviewed six of Trump’s claims from his May 8 speech announcing the decision to withdraw (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/remarks-president-trump-joint-comprehensive-plan-action/) from the deal.
“In fact, the deal allowed Iran to continue enriching uranium and — over time — reach the brink of a nuclear breakout. …“The agreement was so poorly negotiated that even if Iran fully complies, the regime can still be on the verge of a nuclear breakout in just a short period of time. The deal’s sunset provisions are totally unacceptable. …“If we do nothing, we know exactly what will happen. In just a short period of time, the world’s leading state sponsor of terror will be on the cusp of acquiring the world’s most dangerous weapons.”
Notice how Trump uses flexible wording such as “on the verge of a nuclear breakout in just a short period of time.” This is refreshing and more accurate than his Four Pinocchio claim from April 30 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/08/trumps-claim-that-iran-could-build-nuclear-weapons-in-seven-years/): “In seven years, that deal will have expired, and Iran is free to go ahead and create nuclear weapons.”
The JCPOA’s prohibition on Iran’s building nuclear weapons does not sunset, and other international agreements to which Iran has committed itself also prohibit the development of such weapons.
... so TRASH LIED
“This disastrous deal gave this regime — and it’s a regime of great terror — many billions of dollars, some of it in actual cash — a great embarrassment to me as a citizen and to all citizens of the United States.”
Trump always makes it seem that the United States casually handed Iran billions of dollars in cash. But as we’ve reported (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/10/14/fact-checking-president-trumps-speech-on-the-iran-deal/), this was always Iran’s money. Iran had billions of dollars in assets that were frozen in foreign banks because of international sanctions over its nuclear program. The U.S. Treasury Department estimated that Iran would have a little more than $50 billion of usable liquid assets at its disposal after a broad lifting of sanctions under the terms of the JCPOA. The Central Bank of Iran said the number was $32 billion.
so TRASH LIED
“At the heart of the Iran deal was a giant fiction that a murderous regime desired only a peaceful nuclear energy program. Today, we have definitive proof that this Iranian promise was a lie. Last week, Israel published intelligence documents long concealed by Iran, conclusively showing the Iranian regime and its history of pursuing nuclear weapons.
Israel announced on April 30 that Mossad agents had obtained a massive cache of documents and data discs from Iran about “Project Amad,” a clandestine nuclear-weapons development program. Netanyahu said the documents proved that Iran had lied about its past nuclear efforts.
“What he is revealing with all this detail is not news,”
“The fact that Iran has experimented with nuclear warhead designs, and had at one point an active weapons program, makes it all the more essential that the JCPOA remains in place to prevent Iran from quickly amassing enough fissile material for even one bomb.”
Like Kimball and other experts, U.S.-allied nations in Europe described Israel’s findings as nothing new and said they strengthened the case for the JCPOA.
So Trash LIED
“In the years since the deal was reached, Iran’s military budget has grown by almost 40 percent — while its economy is doing very badly.”
According to the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) (https://www.sipri.org/sites/default/files/1_Data%20for%20all%20countries%20from%201988%E2%80 %932017%20in%20constant%20%282016%29%20USD.pdf), Iran’s military expenditure increased nearly 30 percent from 2015, when the JCPOA was adopted, to 2017. This increase brought Iran’s military spending back to near-2006 levels
That means military spending increased alongside overall government spending — not in a silo on its own.
So Trash LIED
“Making matters worse, the deal’s inspection provisions lack adequate mechanisms to prevent, detect, and punish cheating and don’t even have the unqualified right to inspect many important locations, including military facilities. Not only does the deal fail to halt Iran’s nuclear ambitions, but it also fails to address the regime’s development of ballistic missiles that could deliver nuclear warheads.”
Iran first had to dismantle its nuclear program significantly. Then, Iran gave the international community wide access to investigate its nuclear activities.
As we’ve reported (https://ra.washpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/08/trumps-claim-that-iran-could-build-nuclear-weapons-in-seven-years/,DanaInfo=www.washingtonpost.com,SSL+), the IAEA already has the ability to investigate nuclear facilities and activities disclosed by Iran’s government. The country also has committed itself to ratifying the IAEA’s Additional Protocol in 2023, which would give international investigators the power to “investigate undeclared nuclear facilities and activities” as well as “demand information from member states,” according to a 2017 report (https://ra.washpost.com/sgp/crs/nuke/,DanaInfo=fas.org,SSL+R43333.pdf) by the Congressional Research Service.
If Iran were to violate the terms of the deal, sanctions would be reinstated.
This all hinges on the access given to international watchdogs (and their ability). Supporters claim the JCPOA grants them unprecedented access.
“As long as Iran remains in the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), it has an obligation to answer the IAEA’s questions and allow inspectors access to military sites and personnel in Iran related to that effort,” the Institute for Science and International Security, which has been skeptical of the Iran deal, said in a statement after Trump’s speech.
So Trash LIED
“The Iranian regime is the leading state sponsor of terror. It exports dangerous missiles, fuels conflicts across the Middle East, and supports terrorist proxies and militias such as Hezbollah, Hamas, the Taliban, and al-Qaeda.”
State Department Country Reports on terrorism, released in July 2017, which said (https://ra.washpost.com/j/ct/rls/crt/2016/,DanaInfo=www.state.gov,SSL+index.htm): “Since at least 2009, Iran has allowed AQ facilitators to operate a core facilitation pipeline through the country, enabling AQ to move funds and fighters to South Asia and Syria.”
This phrasing marked a shift from previous reports,
which indicated the support was in the past.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2018/05/09/fact-checking-president-trumps-reasons-for-leaving-the-iran-nuclear-deal/?utm_term=.5993ed570f0d
hater
05-09-2018, 06:23 PM
:lmao cnn reporting Irania forcs bombing Israel :lol
Its actually bombing Golan Heights which is Syrian territory. Qnd in response to Israeli attacks
:lol cnn
Shits gettin real nigas
hater
05-09-2018, 06:24 PM
994003482595287041
Israeli troll farms good now
hater
05-09-2018, 06:26 PM
After spending 10 hours in the company of President Vladimir Putin in Moscow as his guest of honor, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said he believes that Israel’s freedom to operate in Syria in its defense is not in jeopardy. The two leaders attended the annual Victory March in Moscow on the anniversary of Nazi Germany’s defeat, during which Netanyahu also paid tribute to the valor of the war veterans living in Israel. Netanyahu then made this comment to the Russian President: “It’s hard to believe that 73 years after the Holocaust, there is a Middle East nation which aspires to wipe out another six million Jews.”
Wonder what deal Putin and Netankiller brokered
So hard to read a meeting between these two :lol
Chris
05-09-2018, 06:37 PM
Israeli troll farms good now
Joined in Novemeber 2013. Doubt it's a troll/bot imo.
hater
05-09-2018, 06:43 PM
One post in 2013 and then next post late 2015 mmm
Im sure Israelis were pioneers in troll farms tbqh
Joseph Kony
05-09-2018, 06:46 PM
its somewhat terrifying knowing people like ducks who are obviously severely mentally handicapped are actually out there voting for public officials
Joseph Kony
05-09-2018, 06:48 PM
koriwhat too. stick to shitty tats and long greasy hair discussion and stfu about politics dude, you're fucking clueless :lmao
hater
05-09-2018, 07:18 PM
its somewhat terrifying knowing people like ducks who are obviously severely mentally handicapped are actually out there voting for public officials
Its scarier to actually realize ducks is actually above intelligence average for americans :lmao
Americans are dumb as fuck this is not really news
ElNono
05-09-2018, 08:14 PM
this thread is severely lacking in Le Happy Merchant pics/memes, tbh...
pgardn
05-09-2018, 09:34 PM
Its scarier to actually realize ducks is actually above intelligence average for americans :lmao
Americans are dumb as fuck this is not really news
Wow...
Just Wow.
Perhaps the most misinformed, odd-ball, Cosmo follower is rating intelligence.
TeyshaBlue
05-09-2018, 09:35 PM
Anybody seeing any news about reported Iranian missle launches toward Isreal?
TeyshaBlue
05-09-2018, 09:41 PM
Nm... Old news. Got my stories out of sequence. Duh.
pgardn
05-09-2018, 09:47 PM
After spending 10 hours in the company of President Vladimir Putin in Moscow as his guest of honor, Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu said he believes that Israel’s freedom to operate in Syria in its defense is not in jeopardy. The two leaders attended the annual Victory March in Moscow on the anniversary of Nazi Germany’s defeat, during which Netanyahu also paid tribute to the valor of the war veterans living in Israel. Netanyahu then made this comment to the Russian President: “It’s hard to believe that 73 years after the Holocaust, there is a Middle East nation which aspires to wipe out another six million Jews.”
Wonder what deal Putin and Netankiller brokered
So hard to read a meeting between these two :lol
They are making rules of engagement with Hezbollah now that Syria is full of them.
Russia did not really want to have to let the Iranians do the dirty work on the ground but it was a smart move to not get Russian soildiers killed in ground fighting. There are barely any true Assad Syrians left to fight, Iranians and Irian backed Syrians do the fighting for Assad. The trash that comes with Iran was Hezbollah, no friend of either. The Russians would clearly rather not have Hezbollah involved as it agitates Israel. Mistakes made with Israel are very dangerous. Especially with Benji going rogue. Benji and Vlad having a sit down on how Israel is going to handle Hezbollah in Syria. It makes perfect sense.
You are are supposed to have a clue.
But you don’t.
pgardn
05-09-2018, 09:52 PM
Hater gotta have an American clue him in how deeply involved Iranian backed ground troops and such are in Syria. Dude actually believes they fight for the Syrian people. Hater took schrapnel to the head his year as a Latin King.
pgardn
05-09-2018, 10:34 PM
Nm... Old news. Got my stories out of sequence. Duh.
They still need to verify they were from Iranian Military positions.
Israel will ask for blood as this was into the Israeli part of the Golan Heights. The Russians will know this.
Chris
05-09-2018, 11:04 PM
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Spurtacular
05-09-2018, 11:20 PM
What is the conservative solution to Iran anyways? like the serious well thought out argument that will get Iran to comply knowing there's very little chance we are going to war there in the near future
Not trolling i honestly don't know what their points are other than the Obama deal was horrible
Whatever it is, it can't be any worse than the liberal solution of "well, just let Iran have their nukes." The Obama deal was horrible, numb nuts. It was pretty fucking stupid.
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 11:23 PM
Whatever it is, it can't be any worse than the liberal solution of "well, just let Iran have their nukes." The Obama deal was horrible, numb nuts. It was pretty fucking stupid.What was stupid about it?
In your own words....
Spurtacular
05-09-2018, 11:25 PM
What was stupid about it?
In your own words....
How about you tell us in your own words.....
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 11:27 PM
How about you tell us in your own words.....It's your claim; back it up.
Just say you were talking out of your ass again.
Spurtacular
05-09-2018, 11:28 PM
It's your claim.
Just say you were talking out of your ass again.
It's reality.
Watch even the first ten minutes of the Trump speech and tell me how the many points are wrong.
And yea, I am talking to an ass again; so, you'll forgive me if I don't care about your demands.
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 11:30 PM
It's reality.
Watch even the first ten minutes of the Trump speech and tell me how the many points are wrong.
And yea, I am talking to an ass again; so, you'll forgive me if I don't care about your demands.:lol
You can't back explain it in your own words.
:cryAsk Trump:cry
Spurtacular
05-09-2018, 11:33 PM
:lol
You can't back explain it in your own words.
:cryAsk Trump:cry
Don't be lazy. If you want to have this convo, then refute the source. Tell me what was wrong with the Trump speech. You can't/won't, so I look forward to your white flag and/or obliteration.
Chris
05-09-2018, 11:34 PM
What nation is the number one sponsor of terrorism? Anyone?
Pavlov
05-09-2018, 11:35 PM
Don't be lazy. If you want to have this convo, then refute the source. Tell me what was wrong with the Trump speech. You can't/won't, so I look forward to your white flag and/or obliteration.I asked you to explain it in your own words and you lazily rolled over and cried.
pgardn
05-09-2018, 11:49 PM
Whatever it is, it can't be any worse than the liberal solution of "well, just let Iran have their nukes." The Obama deal was horrible, numb nuts. It was pretty fucking stupid.
The EU and Britain are going to ignore US sanctions on Iran and keep trading like the deal was in place.
You don’t like globalism, so see how it works out if only US customers buy US goods. You got any stock? Get out if you don’t like globalization. This is just a spectacularly stupid move much like the beauty of Trumps plan on health care.
We will back down. We may leave the deal, but we are still gonna trade with a huge market outside of our own.
The Koreans watch the Iranians build missles and nukes unfettered and think, wtf...
Looking really good. We could lose/lose.
There is no plan for a win/win so Trump is gonna have to try and sell steaks just like health care.
Zero planning.
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 12:19 AM
I asked you to explain it in your own words and you lazily rolled over and cried.
Tell us what was stupid about the Obama Iran nuke deal. You ran from a very simple request. But now you're the victim. Par.
Pavlov
05-10-2018, 12:30 AM
Tell us what was stupid about the Obama Iran nuke deal. You ran from a very simple request. But now you're the victim. Par.That wasn't my claim.
It was yours.
And you ran from explaining it in your own words and are still crying about it.
lol
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 12:32 AM
That wasn't my claim.
It was yours.
And you ran from explaining it in your own words and are still crying about it.
lol
Always crying about the your claim stuff instead of just making a case. Sad.
Aztecfan03
05-10-2018, 12:35 AM
What is the conservative solution to Iran anyways? like the serious well thought out argument that will get Iran to comply knowing there's very little chance we are going to war there in the near future
Not trolling i honestly don't know what their points are other than the Obama deal was horrible
It's certainly not giving Iran everything they want and getting nothing in return.
boutons_deux
05-10-2018, 05:57 AM
It's certainly not giving Iran everything they want and getting nothing in return.
Iran wanted nuclear weapons to destroy Israel and, like NK has done, keep USA from fucking with Iran. The Obama deal denied Iran nuclear weapons.
boutons_deux
05-10-2018, 08:27 AM
That Time John Bolton Promised Regime Change In Iran Before 2019
In July of last year neoconservative death cultist John Bolton, now the National Security Advisor of the United States, gave a speech (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf7VPklv8GY) at the Grand Gathering of Iranians for Free Iran in which
he openly called for regime change in Tehran.
Bolton, who is so stupid, crazy and evil that he remains one of the only high-profile individuals on this planet who still insists (https://youtu.be/NPFc9YN7LIE?t=3m19s) that the Iraq invasion was a great idea,
spoke about the need to prevent the Iranian government from achieving “an arc of control” through Iraq, Syria and Lebanon.
He decried the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA),
claiming that Iran was still a nuclear threat under the existing agreement, and
spoke glowingly of aggressive sanctions against Tehran.
He concluded his speech with the following statement (https://youtu.be/kf7VPklv8GY?t=6m37s):
“There is a viable opposition to the rule of the ayatollahs,
and that opposition is centered in this room today.
I had said for over 10 years since coming to these events,
that the declared policy of the United States of America should be the overthrow of the mullahs’ regime in Tehran.
The behavior and the objectives of the regime are not going to change, and
therefore the only solution is to change the regime itself.
And that’s why, before 2019, we here will celebrate in Tehran!”
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/that-time-john-bolton-promised-regime-change-in-iran-before-2019-fa9be9dd2e5d
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 08:46 AM
It's certainly not giving Iran everything they want and getting nothing in return.
:lmao "nother level"
AaronY
hater
05-10-2018, 11:26 AM
What nation is the number one sponsor of terrorism? Anyone?
USA, Saudi are possibly tid for #1
Winehole23
05-10-2018, 11:51 AM
I would guess Saudi too, but the attribution is more or less subjective: how does one measure "terrorism" on a worldwide basis and determine which "sponsors" get credit?
hater
05-10-2018, 12:05 PM
Its pretty easy imo
If you either fund, train, arm, move or help a terrorist in any way to perform their act or hide its perpetrators you are a sponsor
Winehole23
05-10-2018, 12:28 PM
who counts is more or less politically defined: any group a government -- any government -- doesn't like, can be designated as a terrorist organization.
hater
05-10-2018, 12:31 PM
Sure governments have their labels
But if we apply the common definition of terrorism we can very effectively conclude whats terrorism and whats not
spurraider21
05-10-2018, 12:33 PM
U.S. Code of Federal Regulations defines terrorism as "the unlawful use of force and violence against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives"
hater
05-10-2018, 12:37 PM
Yeah US usually uses their caveats of “we are defending our interests or we are at war” to hide their direct terrorism
And countries have been doing that forever tbqh
But we are talking about sponsoring terrorism. Which US cannot really hide. You cannot realoy hide the fact you funded and armed jihadists that caused all kinds of mayhem in countries
Winehole23
05-10-2018, 12:40 PM
Sure governments have their labels
But if we apply the common definition of terrorism we can very effectively conclude whats terrorism and whats notwhat's the common definition?
hater
05-10-2018, 02:11 PM
Basically hurting or intimidating common ppl for purpose of political, social or religious objctive. Tbqh
sickdsm
05-10-2018, 02:54 PM
What nation is the number one sponsor of terrorism? Anyone?
USA. And second place isn't even close.
koriwhat
05-10-2018, 02:58 PM
:lmao
it was their money lmao! fuck iran first off. second, freeze all their assets regardless and tell them to fuck off.
yall are some treasonous bastards huh? rooting/standing up for iran is ridiculous.
Brazil
05-10-2018, 03:22 PM
it was their money lmao! fuck iran first off. second, freeze all their assets regardless and tell them to fuck off.
yall are some treasonous bastards huh? rooting/standing up for iran is ridiculous.
nobody is rooting for Iran... we are just laughing at your stupidity and ignorance
:lmao
koriwhat
05-10-2018, 04:08 PM
nobody is rooting for Iran...
pretty sure yall are. btw, how's ol' shithole brazil doing these days?
Chris
05-10-2018, 04:41 PM
pretty sure yall are. btw, how's ol' shithole brazil doing these days?
*Risitas
Chris
05-10-2018, 04:51 PM
So once you figure out Iran is the number one sponsor of terror it's pretty easy to see why we pulled out. People that are upset about it are either:
A) In denial that Obama would fuck us over like that.
B) Fuck DRUMPF!
AaronY
05-10-2018, 05:40 PM
It's certainly not giving Iran everything they want and getting nothing in return.
Stop being a pussy and give a concrete answer
AaronY
05-10-2018, 05:49 PM
Literally just said Obama's plan was shitty lmao. I mean c'mon guys seriously there must be an intellectual conservative plan. Maybe a George Will article or something
Brazil
05-10-2018, 07:13 PM
pretty sure yall are. btw, how's ol' shithole brazil doing these days?
Tell me more about dat Iran deal that you know so much
:lmao
AaronY
05-10-2018, 07:15 PM
Meghan McCain to GOP "You guys have no other plan"
https://www.salon.com/2018/05/09/whoopi-schools-meghan-mccain-on-gop-opposition-to-iran-nuke-deal-you-guys-dont-have-another-plan/
Chris
05-10-2018, 07:17 PM
What plan? We withdrew from the Iran deal.
End of story.
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 07:18 PM
Literally just said Obama's plan was shitty lmao.
Who literally just said that? You or aztec?
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 07:18 PM
Meghan McCain to GOP "You guys have no other plan"
https://www.salon.com/2018/05/09/whoopi-schools-meghan-mccain-on-gop-opposition-to-iran-nuke-deal-you-guys-dont-have-another-plan/
She your hero?
spurraider21
05-10-2018, 07:20 PM
What plan?
that's been the prevailing question
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 07:24 PM
that's been the prevailing question
And the prevailing undercurrent is your butthurt about Obama's deal getting nixed.
Chris
05-10-2018, 07:26 PM
And the prevailing undercurrent is your butthurt about Obama's deal getting nixed.
:lol
AaronY
05-10-2018, 07:26 PM
What plan? We withdrew from the Iran deal.
End of story.
oh cool. now we live happily ever after I guess
spurraider21
05-10-2018, 07:26 PM
And the prevailing undercurrent is your butthurt about Obama's deal getting nixed.
https://biggiesplace.files.wordpress.com/2015/02/drax-thesaurus.gif
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 07:39 PM
:cry
You agree with the deal getting nixed?
Yes or no.
boutons_deux
05-10-2018, 07:46 PM
Days after violating Iran nuclear agreement, Trump administration is demanding Iran comply (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/10/1763433/-Days-after-violating-Iran-nuclear-agreement-Trump-administration-is-demanding-Iran-comply)
senior administration officials said monitoring should continue regardless.
Making his withdrawal announcement on Tuesday, Trump pilloried the accord for lacking mechanisms to "prevent, detect, and punish cheating" or provide immediate access to suspicious military sites.
the White House is demanding those inspections, however imperfect, continue under the aegis of the International Atomic Energy Agency,
why in the world would North Korea (https://www.dailykos.com/story/2018/5/10/1763362/-Trump-elevates-tin-pot-dictator-to-world-stage) even think of complying with any kind of agreement it might make with Trump?
Not when this is how he approaches "deals."
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/10/1763433/-Days-after-violating-Iran-nuclear-agreement-Trump-administration-is-demanding-Iran-comply (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/5/10/1763433/-Days-after-violating-Iran-nuclear-agreement-Trump-administration-is-demanding-Iran-comply)
Trash just wanted to destroy Obama's major foreign policy success, "it's personal (not business)"
spurraider21
05-10-2018, 07:53 PM
You agree with the deal getting nixed?
Yes or no.
nah. they were complying
boutons_deux
05-10-2018, 07:57 PM
Will Iran keeping letting inspectors work after Trash fires sanctions?
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 08:00 PM
nah.
Exactly. You're now having yourself a cry over it.
AaronY
05-10-2018, 08:04 PM
And not a single coherent plan was given that day
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 08:06 PM
And not a single coherent plan was given that day
Still waiting for you tell me who said Obama's plan was shitty, you or aztec? aztec, obviously. But were you concurring?
Nathan89
05-10-2018, 08:16 PM
Can someone link me to where they explained why the shitty plan is better than nothing?
Spurtacular
05-10-2018, 08:18 PM
Can someone link me to where they explained why the shitty plan is better than nothing?
:lmao Closest I've seen so far is a CNN segment whining about some European companies losing some money.
AaronY
05-10-2018, 09:25 PM
So we know they dont like the Obama plan..
AaronY
05-10-2018, 09:34 PM
Lmao literally beyond parody at this point
boutons_deux
05-11-2018, 07:05 AM
U.S., UAE crack down on network for smuggling funds to elite Iran group
The United States imposed sanctions on Thursday against six individuals and three companies it said were funneling millions of dollars to Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard’s elite Quds Force, just days after President Donald Trump withdrew from the 2015 Iran nuclear deal.
The Treasury Department, acting with the United Arab Emirates where front companies were located, said it had disrupted the large network’s operations, and accused Iran’s central bank of helping the group access U.S. dollars held in foreign banks to sidestep Western sanctions.
“The Iranian regime and its central bank have abused access to entities in the UAE to acquire U.S. dollars to fund the IRGC-QF’s malign activities, including to fund and arm its regional proxy groups, by concealing the purpose for which the U.S. dollars were acquired,”
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iran-nuclear-usa-sanctions/us-uae-crack-down-on-network-for-smuggling-funds-to-elite-iran-group-idUSKBN1IB2I3
boutons_deux
05-11-2018, 07:07 AM
Can someone link me to where they explained why the shitty plan is better than nothing?
what's shitty about it?
if Iran withdraws, they intend to build nuclear weapons to bomb Saudi Arabia and Israel, which Pootin will support because he wants/needs highest oil prices.
hater
05-11-2018, 08:41 AM
What plan? We withdrew from the Iran deal.
End of story.
:lmao
Chris
hater
05-11-2018, 08:44 AM
Can someone link me to where they explained why the shitty plan is better than nothing?
Ending the deal basically kills all diplomacy with Iran
To kill diplomacy is fucking stupid IMO
You never kill diplomacy
Only barbarians and violent empires like the Genghis Kahns Momgolians kill diplomacy
Diplomacy is a tool like a fork. You dont just throw away all your forks do you
So its not as much as the deal was good or bad but walking away kills all future negotiations. Its dumb and mainly a clown show to get redneck idiot american votes
Even Trump is backtracking a bit he just said if Iran allows military base inspections he might let them be :lol
hater
05-11-2018, 08:45 AM
:lmao european cucks pretending to have a set of balls and defying US :lmao
“Do we want to be vassals who obey decisions taken by the United States while clinging to the hem of their trousers?” Bruno le Maire French FM asked in an emotional interview with Europe 1.
:lmao its gonna be hilarious when these eurocu ks fold to their masters soon. Starting with the pathetic french :lmao
hater
05-11-2018, 08:56 AM
Israeli troll farms hard at work on twitter and other media spinning that it was Iran who attacked them :lmao
They attacked Iranians in Syria at least a dozen times this yearvand killed about 100 Iranians and they are claiming Iran attacked them :lmao
These nigas have no shame tbqh
boutons_deux
05-11-2018, 11:23 AM
We Are Being Lied To About Yet Another Middle Eastern Country By Yet Another US (Repug) President
The largest donor to any campaign was oligarch Sheldon Adelson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheldon_Adelson), who gave $25 million to the Trump campaign (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/sep/23/sheldon-adelson-trump-super-pac-donation-25-million), and
who in 2013 said that the US should drop a nuclear bomb on Iran (https://www.jpost.com/Diplomacy-and-Politics/Adelson-US-should-drop-atomic-bomb-on-Iran-329641).
After his election win, Adelson gave another $5 million to Trump’s inauguration (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/gop-mega-donor-sheldon-adelson-furious-over-rex-tillerson-comments-report/article/2623082), the largest single presidential inaugural donation ever made.
In his statement on the decision to pull out of the deal, Trump repeated the brazen, demonstrable lie that Iran is the world’s “leading state sponsor of terrorism”, a lie again repeated (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/993976643898281984) on his Twitter account.
The
Veteran Intelligence Professionals for Sanity (VIPS), who have been consistently on the right side of history with every attempt by the US government to falsely manufacture escalations against noncompliant world governments,
released a statement (https://consortiumnews.com/2017/12/21/intel-vets-tell-trump-iran-is-not-top-terror-sponsor/) in December of last year explaining how this oft-repeated allegation is completely false, and that
the actual leading state sponsors of terrorism are US allies.
Yesterday VIPS addressed another memo (https://consortiumnews.com/2018/05/07/trump-urged-not-to-pull-out-of-iran-nuclear-deal/) to the president describing the deceitful nature of the Netanyahu dog and pony show and explaining why it’s a mistake to pull out of the Iran deal.
etc, etc ...
https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/we-are-being-lied-to-about-yet-another-middle-eastern-country-by-yet-another-us-president-d6d701b77a6b
koriwhat
05-11-2018, 12:00 PM
Tell me more about dat Iran deal that you know so much
:lmao
i know it got the boot. fuck obama and his muslim brotherhood!
boutons_deux
05-11-2018, 12:01 PM
Trump Has No Plan Left on Iran Other Than War
Michael Klare assesses the dangers ahead.
Michael Klare:
I don’t think there’s really a happy outcome from this.
I don’t see some way in which Europe can rescue the Iran nuclear deal at this point.
Trump says that he wants new negotiations with the Iranians for a totally new deal.
I don’t think that’s in the cards at all.
We’re going to see very tough sanctions on Iran.
And I don’t think the Europeans will be able to protect their companies from the effects of U.S. sanctions, so they will have to quit trading with Iran.
And if the Iranians move to restart their nuclear enrichment program, the next step is war.
MK:
That’s correct. And it’s not just the international atomic energy agency inspectors—
the U.N. and the Europeans also say that Iran is fully compliant.
It’s the top American intelligence officials as well.
Mike Pompeo and Dan Coats, the Director of National intelligence, have testified as recently as last month that,
so far as they know, Iran is in full compliance with the agreement.
There’s no evidence whatsoever of Iranian cheating on the deal.
https://www.thenation.com/article/trump-has-no-plan-left-on-iran-other-than-war/?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Weekly%2005112018&utm_term=weekly
If Trash's punitive sanctions on Iran cause 100Ks of European job losses by European companies doing business with Iran,
the shitstorm for USA will continue for years, to the great laughter of Pootin.
koriwhat
05-11-2018, 12:04 PM
fuck iran and israel too for trying to get us involved in this bs. they want a fight, let them do it on their own. fuck the ME! let them blow it up all on their own and let the ashes settle. sick of all them desert scumbags.
Chris
05-11-2018, 05:54 PM
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koriwhat
05-11-2018, 05:56 PM
995069717579624450
this isn't news chris... it's expected by now. the left has lost it and most won't wake up to the reality that they're out to completely ruin this country and our rights.
Chris
05-11-2018, 05:59 PM
this isn't news chris... it's expected by now. the left has lost it and most won't wake up to the reality that they're out to completely ruin this country and our rights.
Just proves they are in bed with the Globalist along with the RINOs.
koriwhat
05-11-2018, 06:01 PM
Just proves they are in bed with the Globalist along with the RINOs.
:tu
spurraider21
05-11-2018, 06:03 PM
are you guys done 69'ing each other? derp needs some love too
Winehole23
05-11-2018, 09:55 PM
DJT wants Obama's ineffective inspections regime to continue, after breaking the deal:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-says-iran-nuclear-inspections-must-continue-231736429.html
Spurtacular
05-11-2018, 10:03 PM
995069717579624450
This is why 'Make America Great Again' triggers liberals. They stopped even playing for our side long ago.
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