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Pavlov
06-22-2018, 01:33 PM
Like the Spurs reacted well...."my injury was 100 times worse" "ask his group"That's all you got?

:lmao you just provided all the proof Kawhi is a mentally weak snowflake who isn't a leader and doesn't' deserve anything close to the supermax.

FkLA
06-22-2018, 01:33 PM
Like the Spurs reacted well...."my injury was 100 times worse" "ask his group"

They could be more more polite and diplomatic "well, we wish him the best...wish his injury heal soon" while killing him in private but again they opted to burn bridges with comments in public.

I expected way better from the Spurs.

Why? If he had had an actual injury then sure you can claim that the Spurs handled it terribly, but Kawhitter has pretty much confirmed the "injury" was just part of a long con all along. I doubt sucking up to him and going along with it instead of calling his bullshit changes anything so fuck him. I'm glad they took shots at him and his group.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 01:34 PM
I hope Parker punks Lonnie often in his rookie year so we know he's not a snowflake.
I see Lonnie's girl pic in this thread...Hot af. If Parker sees it guess we'll lose Walker in Summer League... :lol

TVI
06-22-2018, 01:35 PM
Doubt it, DRob was soft. He never had what it takes to win. Timmy is just cut from a different cloth.
Have you always been this salty, Rob? I guess I never noticed before.
Anyway, DRob is probably THE reason the Spurs are still in SA, and he's definitely the reason Timmy stayed. I think the Admiral has earned the right to say what he thinks.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 01:36 PM
Why? If he had had an actual injury then sure you can claim that the Spurs handled it terribly, but Kawhitter has pretty much confirmed the "injury" was just part of a long con all along. I doubt sucking up to him and going along with it instead of calling his bullshit changes anything so fuck him. I'm glad they took shots at him and his group.

We're not talking here if the Spurs mishadling his injury or not, we're talking about how questioning or bashing a franchise player in front of media could affect a team or not.

DAF86
06-22-2018, 01:37 PM
So wishes.

When did I say otherwise?


Sure, but the mistakes are magnified and actually count against the NBA team.

That's why there's a farm system.

Yeah, but at some point you gotta wonder just how hurtful those mistakes really are. For example, how many more losses (if any) we would have had last season if White was part of the rotation instead of Forbes?

DAF86
06-22-2018, 01:37 PM
At the cost of winning games? I think not.

Do you think playing White instead of Forbes, last season, would have cost the Spurs games?

Extra Stout
06-22-2018, 01:40 PM
Well, if bashing their players in public will be Spurs' approach to talented young guys, I guess they'll fall on keeping them on the team next year.Is this going to be a habit for talented young players to fake injuries in order not to honor their contracts? Because I imagine the next CBA would deal with that if it’s a trend.


We'll see when the Spurs get a top 3-5 player again if they will be able to keep him or this was just about Kawhi. Only time will tell.If the Spurs wanted to play hardball, they’d wait until everyone’s cap space dries up, then terminate his contract and drag his derp ass into court for repayment of his 2017-18 salary, at a minimum.

Sorry the Lakers superteam thing didn’t work out.

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 01:40 PM
When did I say otherwise?



Yeah, but at some point you gotta wonder just how hurtful those mistakes really are. For example, how many more losses (if any) we would have had last season if White was part of the rotation instead of Forbes?More wishes.

I'll wish he's better than he looks now and gets to play more.

Same difference.

DAF86
06-22-2018, 01:42 PM
More wishes.

I'll wish he's better than he looks now and gets to play more.

Same difference.

Now, you are just being obtuse for the sake of arguing.

Dex
06-22-2018, 01:44 PM
And what is the point you are trying to make with that? :lol

White should have been in the rotation last season. If he had, he would be way ahead on his developing process.

Have to disagree with this.

Spurs already had to put time into developing Murray, and also had $25M committed to Mills and Parker (two franchise mainstays). Frankly put...there just weren't minutes for White.

He may have been able to get some burnt as a third-string PG in the 30-odd games as a that Parker was still out, but that quickly would've dried up.

Players develop by playing, and he was able to do that a lot more leading the Austin Spurs. That was way more valuable to his development, even at a lower level of competition, that getting 5-10 garbage minutes a game ever would have been. The only other option would have been fitting him minutes at the 2, but playing out of position doesn't help him play to his strengths either.

That said...I want Parker out and want White firmly entrenched in the rotation next season.

Dex
06-22-2018, 01:45 PM
Like the Spurs reacted well...."my injury was 100 times worse" "ask his group"

They could be more more polite and diplomatic "well, we wish him the best...wish his injury heal soon" while killing him in private but again they opted to burn bridges with comments in public.

I expected way better from the Spurs.

Spurs were getting questions daily from reporters about Kawhi and his condition. Meanwhile, Kawhi was being all nebulous and shit about it. It was only a matter of time before they gave a response that could be perceived as a slight, and frankly, the frustration on the Spurs side was justified.

Whether they sort shit out or not, I still lost a lot of respect for Kawhi once he separated himself from the team and didn't show up to a single playoff game. I wouldn't expect that from any player, let alone a player that is supposed to be the "leader" of a team.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 01:46 PM
That's all you got?

:lmao you just provided all the proof Kawhi is a mentally weak snowflake who isn't a leader and doesn't' deserve anything close to the supermax.

All? They didn't need more, they questioned the franchise player in front media.

Tell me when you heard before a coach, a teammate or a role player did the same thing and that ended well?

Don't be homer, it's clear the Spurs let frustration made them say the wrong things in public.

Again, they had the smarter option to say the same but in private, in the locker room. It could have helped a lot in a trade now.

FkLA
06-22-2018, 01:46 PM
We're not talking here if the Spurs mishadling his injury or not, we're talking about how questioning or bashing a franchise player in front of media could affect a team or not.

And that's exactly what I'm talking about too.

If Kawhi's injury was legit then sure you can say the Spurs did a terrible job of supporting their franchise guy. It was just part of a con job though, so what's the issue with the shots they took? I'm sure they sniffed that shit out early on and that's the only reason why they weren't diplomatic/supportive about it. They have a history of being overly conservative/protective of their players when it comes to injuries and the same would've been done for Kawhitter if his injury had been real.

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 01:47 PM
Now, you are just being obtuse for the sake of arguing.Not arguing anything at this point.

My original take hasn't changed: He could play more than White since his existing skill set is sorely needed in the Spurs' offense. I don't know if that's enough at this point. Could be by October if his work matches his reputation.

DAF86
06-22-2018, 01:47 PM
Have to disagree with this.

Spurs already had to put time into developing Murray, and also had $25M committed to Mills and Parker (two franchise mainstays). Frankly put...there just weren't minutes for White.

Yet there were minutes for Forbes?


He may have been able to get some burnt as a third-string PG in the 30-odd games as a that Parker was still out, but that quickly would've dried up.

Players develop by playing, and he was able to do that a lot more leading the Austin Spurs. That was way more valuable to his development, even at a lower level of competition, that getting 5-10 garbage minutes a game ever would have been. The only other option would have been fitting him minutes at the 2, but playing out of position doesn't help him play to his strengths either.

That said...I want Parker out and want White firmly entrenched in the rotation next season.

And player develop even faster by playing against better competition.

bluebellmaniac
06-22-2018, 01:48 PM
Do you think playing White instead of Forbes, last season, would have cost the Spurs games?

I think Pop is going to play whoever he thinks gives us the best chance at winning. This team has been pretty good at that. Winningest team in sports. Hard to argue with that.

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 01:48 PM
All? They didn't need more, they questioned the franchise player in front media.

Tell me when you heard before a coach, a teammate or a role player did the same thing and that ended well?

Don't be homer, it's clear the Spurs let frustration made them say the wrong things in public.

Again, they had the smarter option to say the same but in private, in the locker room. It could have helped a lot in a trade now.I didn't interpret their remarks as attacks on your poor widdle snowflake.

Kawhi did. He's a poor widdle snowflake and deserves nothing from this team.

Sorry, I expected more from him that you.

Dex
06-22-2018, 01:51 PM
Yet there were minutes for Forbes?

Forbes averaged 23+ points per game in the G-League the year prior, and had a great Summer League. He earned his chance.

White was coming in as an unknown commodity, and he looked much better at the end of his G-League stint than he did at the beginning. The Spurs needed every bit of help they could get just to stay afloat last season...that's not the time to take a gamble on a rotation player and let him learn on the fly.


And player develop even faster by playing against better competition.

Not if they are hardly playing.

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06-22-2018, 01:52 PM
It's not about he deserves it or not, it's about how the Spurs let frustration put themselves in a weak position.

They could deny Kawhi that deal and still be in a good relationship with the player to work together for a trade and get great offers for him.

But those comments in public burned bridges.

Lol. This Kawhirisis is of one person's doing (not even going to blame the Unc here). It's always about what the Spurs did wrong first and foremost with you guys.

Did Kawhi precipitate the comments he got by not answering the questions himself. I'll tell you right now if I had a player or teammate that basically went AWOL, I'd get sick of answering the same questions too. Eventually I'd get sick of spouting the company line (oh, yes really working hard to come back, blah, blah, blah) and say you know what, you'll need to ask his group.

Damn man, you really have debased your fandom by being so overly playerfanish.

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 01:52 PM
Yet there were minutes for Forbes?.Different roles, it seems.

SAGirl
06-22-2018, 01:52 PM
Don't know anything about him, but I hope he gets minutes next season.
Welcome to the Spurs.
:flag:

DAF86
06-22-2018, 01:52 PM
Not arguing anything at this point.

My original take hasn't changed: He could play more than White since his existing skill set is sorely needed in the Spurs' offense. I don't know if that's enough at this point. Could be by October if his work matches his reputation.

If your take was that Pop might not have him in the rotation, then I agree.

The only thing I disagree with is this idea that you need to learn how to play on the G-League. If you get consitent minutes on the NBA, that helps your development a lot more than playing on the G-league.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 01:53 PM
Is this going to be a habit for talented young players to fake injuries in order not to honor their contracts? Because I imagine the next CBA would deal with that if it’s a trend.
He had issues with his quad. If you think he wasnt, you didn't see him play those 9 games last season.


If the Spurs wanted to play hardball, they’d wait until everyone’s cap space dries up, then terminate his contract and drag his derp ass into court for repayment of his 2017-18 salary, at a minimum.
The Spurs wouldn't have the need to play hardball if they would have kept a good relationship with the player. Now, they could be working together in a trade. But the Spurs opted to make public the issues.


Sorry the Lakers superteam thing didn’t work out.
I hate the Lakers so I'm fine with this.

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 01:55 PM
If your take was that Pop might not have him in the rotation, then I agree.

The only thing I disagree with is this idea that you need to learn how to play on the G-League. If you get consitent minutes on the NBA, that helps your development a lot more than playing on the G-league.Sure, but I already said the mistakes are magnified and actually hurt the team. That's the formula every team has to work with.

Extra Stout
06-22-2018, 01:55 PM
We're not talking here if the Spurs mishadling his injury or not, we're talking about how questioning or bashing a franchise player in front of media could affect a team or not.
So let me get this straight... the “franchise player” can fake an injury, effectively steal 17 million dollars, and torpedo said franchise, in order to screw them over and force them to take 2 cents on the dollar while he galavants with his new buddies on a super-team in LA, but if the Spurs act irritated about his doing that in public, they’re the bad guys?

DAF86
06-22-2018, 01:55 PM
Different roles, it seems.

Well, even more bullshit then, since last season's team needed White's skillsets (playmaking) more than Forbes' skillset (spot up shooter). Besides, it's not like White couldn't shoot.

Dex
06-22-2018, 01:56 PM
So let me get this straight... the “franchise player” can fake an injury, effectively steal 17 million dollars, and torpedo said franchise, in order to screw them over and force them to take 2 cents on the dollar while he galavants with his new buddies on a super-team in LA, but if the Spurs act irritated about his doing that in public, they’re the bad guys?

+1

I don't care if you are the best player on the team, that doesn't give you a pass to get away with murder.

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 01:58 PM
Well, even more bullshit then, since last season's team needed White's skillsets (playmaking) more than Forbes' skillset (spot up shooter). Besides, it's not like White couldn't shoot.The regular playing time in Austin argues he wouldn't be as good a shooter as Forbes and there were already enough nonshooters on the perimeter.

DAF86
06-22-2018, 01:58 PM
I think Pop is going to play whoever he thinks gives us the best chance at winning. This team has been pretty good at that. Winningest team in sports. Hard to argue with that.

You didn't answer the question.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 01:59 PM
Spurs were getting questions daily from reporters about Kawhi and his condition. Meanwhile, Kawhi was being all nebulous and shit about it. It was only a matter of time before they gave a response that could be perceived as a slight, and frankly, the frustration on the Spurs side was justified.

I don't think this was something inevitable that would happen sooner or later...You can keep saying the right things to media "we don't know but we wish him the best" ..That would have worked a lot better than those comments.

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06-22-2018, 02:01 PM
So let me get this straight... the “franchise player” can fake an injury, effectively steal 17 million dollars, and torpedo said franchise, in order to screw them over and force them to take 2 cents on the dollar while he galavants with his new buddies on a super-team in LA, but if the Spurs act irritated about his doing that in public, they’re the bad guys?

Dex
06-22-2018, 02:01 PM
I don't think this was something inevitable that would happen sooner or later...You can keep saying the right things to media "we don't know but we wish him the best" ..That would have worked a lot better than those comments.

They said that shit about 100 times. At a certain point, just saying the same thing over and over again is basically pleading the fifth, and people can read right through it.

Not saying those comments didn't exacerbate the situation, but Kawhi also didn't help the situation at all, and getting so butthurt over it is a massive overreaction.

DAF86
06-22-2018, 02:02 PM
Forbes averaged 23+ points per game in the G-League the year prior, and had a great Summer League. He earned his chance.

White was coming in as an unknown commodity, and he looked much better at the end of his G-League stint than he did at the beginning. The Spurs needed every bit of help they could get just to stay afloat last season...that's not the time to take a gamble on a rotation player and let him learn on the fly.



Not if they are hardly playing.

I agree starting the season with Forbes instead of White. But when we got to the point that it was obvious that Forbes wasn't giving us much and White was tearing shit up on the G-league, I think it would have been wise to give White a chance to see what he could bring to the team.

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 02:05 PM
Kawhi's group should have been asked about his condition-- Pop had no idea what was going on.

Parker's injury was much more acutely worse than Kawhi's-- no one could even try to argue differently.

The fact that Kawhi was isolated from the team in his group's bubble is the sole reason he got butthurt about their remarks. Even basic communication with the team would have prevented that.

This is Kawhi's fault.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 02:06 PM
So let me get this straight... the “franchise player” can fake an injury, effectively steal 17 million dollars, and torpedo said franchise, in order to screw them over and force them to take 2 cents on the dollar while he galavants with his new buddies on a super-team in LA, but if the Spurs act irritated about his doing that in public, they’re the bad guys?
Since this premise is wrong, everything falls after

Kawhi had an injured quad last season. Spurs' doctors cleared him to play but at the same time they said he had a quad tendinopathy

It's his body, his career, and I respect his right not to play if he still felt pain and his doctors gave him other diagnosis.

Russ
06-22-2018, 02:18 PM
Spurs' doctors cleared him to play but at the same time they said he had a quad tendinopathy

It's his body, his career, and I respect his right not to play if he still felt pain and his doctors gave him other diagnosis.

The rubber meets the road if Kawhi sits out major portions of a season due to tendinopathy when he's a member of, say, the Lakers . . .

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 02:19 PM
Kawhi's group should have been asked about his condition-- Pop had no idea what was going on.

If you are that naive to believe that Pop had no idea...Kawhi called him almost daily, he traveled with Spurs' personnel to NY every time...

Pop just overreacted and got frustated because he's too much old school and thought he was losing control on his franchise player because NY doctors and Kawhi's lack of confidence in Spurs medical staff.

But today NBA tells us that most players have his own group of doctors to rehab like Hayward in Indiana, Cousins in Las Vegas...

You can keep saying "it's Kawhi's fault" but it's clear that both sides handled this badly.

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 02:23 PM
If you are that naive to believe that Pop had no idea...Kawhi called him almost daily, he traveled with Spurs' personnel to NY every time...

Pop just overreacted and got frustated because he's too much old school and thought he was losing control on his franchise player because NY doctors and Kawhi's lack of confidence in Spurs medical staff.

But today NBA tells us that most players have his own group of doctors to rehab like Hayward in Indiana, Cousins in Las Vegas...

You can keep saying "it's Kawhi's fault" but it's clear that both sides handled this badly.Kawhi should have been answering questions about his health himself. He's not a child who needs his uncle and sister speak for him.

It's Kawhi's fault.

And if all the frustration that the Spurs had to go through because of him only manifested itself in two innocuous quotes, who could blame them?

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 02:27 PM
The rubber meets the road if Kawhi sits out major portions of a season due to tendinopathy when he's a member of, say, the Lakers . . .
Stop this shit about the Lakers. Pop can be too much old way, stubborn, but he's not an idiot.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 02:30 PM
in two innocuous quotes
:lol Ok.

Nro.1 rule for communication issues: It's never just one side fault.

Extra Stout
06-22-2018, 02:31 PM
Since this premise is wrong, everything falls after

Kawhi had an injured quad last season. Spurs' doctors cleared him to play but at the same time they said he had a quad tendinopathy

It's his body, his career, and I respect his right not to play if he still felt pain and his doctors gave him other diagnosis.
He malingered. For months the Spurs have known this was a ploy to get himself on the Lakers this summer. Their knowledge leaked on this very forum. And what do you know, right before the draft he demands a trade to the Lakers, saying, trade me right now or lose me for nothing because I’ll sign there next year.

How conveeeeeeeeeenient that he would do that when they have $61 million in cap space this summer, and how conveeeeeenient that the Lakers just happen to have Luol Deng’s contract to match salaries!
They can get Kawhi without using up cap space! Wheeee!

If this were really about his relationship with the Spurs or his “injury” he wouldn’t have made the LA-only demand. Sorry if you can’t see through the bullshit.

r0drig0lac
06-22-2018, 02:39 PM
So let me get this straight... the “franchise player” can fake an injury, effectively steal 17 million dollars, and torpedo said franchise, in order to screw them over and force them to take 2 cents on the dollar while he galavants with his new buddies on a super-team in LA, but if the Spurs act irritated about his doing that in public, they’re the bad guys?

good question

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 02:42 PM
:lol Ok.

Nro.1 rule for communication issues: It's never just one side fault.It is when one side refuses to communicate.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 02:43 PM
He malingered. For months the Spurs have known this was a ploy to get himself on the Lakers this summer... And what do you know, right before the draft he demands a trade to the Lakers, saying, trade me right now or lose me for nothing because I’ll sign there next year.
I guess he asked for a trade when the Spurs denied the supermax.

What's if the Spurs would have offered him that deal? All this shit about Lakers wouldn't happen. Again, this is not about if he deserved that deal or not, I'm just saying all your theory about "Kawhi to the Lakers" would fall in a second after an only one Spurs move.

Sorry, but I can't buy a theory with these many shortcomings that just one move invalidates it

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 02:47 PM
It is when one side refuses to communicate.
Ramona wrote that Kawhi called Pop, Green, DJ and young guys all season...Gay said Kawhi called him during the season and vice versa

But if you want to believe he didn't communicate at all...I can't help.

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 02:48 PM
Ramona wrote that Kawhi called Pop, Green, DJ and young guys all season...Gay said Kawhi called him during the season and vice versa

But if you want to believe he didn't communicate at all...I can't help.OK, point me to all the times Kawhi updated the media on his medical condition this past season.

Help me with that.

exstatic
06-22-2018, 02:48 PM
Can we PLEASE move the Kawhi shit to one of the NUMEROUS Kawhi threads and get back to talking about Lonnie IV?

rjv
06-22-2018, 02:51 PM
Can we PLEASE move the Kawhi shit to one of the NUMEROUS Kawhi threads and get back to talking about Lonnie IV?

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 02:51 PM
OK, point me to all the times Kawhi updated the media on his medical condition this past season.

Help me with that.
Like you know what they talked about...right?

FkLA
06-22-2018, 02:52 PM
Since this premise is wrong, everything falls after

Kawhi had an injured quad last season. Spurs' doctors cleared him to play but at the same time they said he had a quad tendinopathy

It's his body, his career, and I respect his right not to play if he still felt pain and his doctors gave him other diagnosis.

If the injury was real, how did he magically recover to 100% a few days after his trade demand? Why is it LA and only LA if was really a case of mishandling/lack of support by the Spurs?

No offense, but you are a complete idiot if you actually believe the shit Uncle Dennis is selling you.

exstatic
06-22-2018, 02:53 PM
Can we PLEASE move the Kawhi shit to one of the NUMEROUS Kawhi threads and get back to talking about Lonnie IV?

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 02:53 PM
Like you know what they talked about...right?As the media's job is to report on such communications, yes -- we would know what they talked about if it happened.

Any examples of that last season?

"According to Kawhi himself...."

Any of that?

Hoops Czar
06-22-2018, 02:54 PM
Kawhi should have been answering questions about his health himself. He's not a child who needs his uncle and sister speak for him.

It's Kawhi's fault.

And if all the frustration that the Spurs had to go through because of him only manifested itself in two innocuous quotes, who could blame them?

I love it when posters project their biases on to NBA players.

Why of course these multimillionaire elite athletes would think just like I do!

Pavlov
06-22-2018, 02:57 PM
I love it when posters project their biases on to NBA players.

Why of course these multimillionaire elite athletes would think just like I do!Millionaire athletes usually have no problem speaking for themselves about themselves.

Pretty simple.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 02:59 PM
Can we PLEASE move the Kawhi shit to one of the NUMEROUS Kawhi threads and get back to talking about Lonnie IV?
Sorry I didn't turn this into a Kawhi's something since there were many previous posts about him before mine but I'll stop replying to help to keep this as a Loonie thread.

Like I've said before I liked a lot what I read, heard and watched about Walker these last days. So glad the Spurs drafted him. I'd love Pop giving him consistent minutes to develop him.

Can't waint for Spurs Summer League to watch him and White together!

Killakobe81
06-22-2018, 03:09 PM
This kid has athelticism. I know he has battled some knee issues but if stays healthy and Spurs can work i=on his shot and handle dude has some upside ...
Nice pick by Spurs.

DPG21920
06-22-2018, 03:15 PM
Ramona wrote that Kawhi called Pop, Green, DJ and young guys all season...Gay said Kawhi called him during the season and vice versa

But if you want to believe he didn't communicate at all...I can't help.

Danny clarified the comments twice now and said communication was sparse

Russ
06-22-2018, 03:27 PM
Danny clarified the comments twice now and said communication was sparse

Dialing back a bit as he opts in . . .

TD 21
06-22-2018, 04:56 PM
Excellent pick. Don't know why a player who thereotically might have star potential or a tier below, who doesn't have character or future medical concerns, falls to 18, but luckily he did.

The irony is or at least could be, he's theoretically a near ideal long term compliment to Leonard and Murray on the perimeter. A non physical liability defensively, a decent or better shooter and someone who can create their own shot.

There's probably not a star in the bunch, but Murray, White, Walker, could conceivably be a nice back court going forward; which is impressive considering where they selected them.

SpurPadre
06-22-2018, 04:58 PM
Excellent pick. Don't know why a player who thereotically might have star potential or a tier below, who doesn't have character or future medical concerns, falls to 18, but luckily he did.

The irony is or at least could be, he's theoretically a near ideal long term compliment to Leonard and Murray on the perimeter. A non physical liability defensively, a decent or better shooter and someone who can create their own shot.

There's probably not a star in the bunch, but Murray, White, Walker, could conceivably be a nice back court going forward; which is impressive considering where they selected them.

Way too early too make that statement. Anything's possible with their talent, tbh.

TD 21
06-22-2018, 05:01 PM
Way too early too make that statement. Anything's possible with their talent, tbh.

That's why I said probably. The odds are always against it where they were selected. I also said Walker "theoretically might have star potential or a tier below".

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 05:03 PM
Excellent pick. Don't know why a player who thereotically might have star potential or a tier below, who doesn't have character or future medical concerns, falls to 18, but luckily he did.

The irony is or at least could be, he's theoretically a near ideal long term compliment to Leonard and Murray on the perimeter. A non physical liability defensively, a decent or better shooter and someone who can create their own shot.

There's probably not a star in the bunch, but Murray, White, Walker, could conceivably be a nice back court going forward; which is impressive considering where they selected them.

Well, other teams were concerned about his health after his knee surgery but I'm glad the Spurs were willing to take a risk for him. I guess this will work so well :tu

SpurPadre
06-22-2018, 05:10 PM
That's why I said probably. The odds are always against it where they were selected. I also said Walker "theoretically might have star potential or a tier below".

I stand corrected. My bad.

Dingle Barry
06-22-2018, 05:23 PM
He malingered. For months the Spurs have known this was a ploy to get himself on the Lakers this summer. Their knowledge leaked on this very forum. And what do you know, right before the draft he demands a trade to the Lakers, saying, trade me right now or lose me for nothing because I’ll sign there next year.

How conveeeeeeeeeenient that he would do that when they have $61 million in cap space this summer, and how conveeeeeenient that the Lakers just happen to have Luol Deng’s contract to match salaries!
They can get Kawhi without using up cap space! Wheeee!

If this were really about his relationship with the Spurs or his “injury” he wouldn’t have made the LA-only demand. Sorry if you can’t see through the bullshit.
:wow don't hurt 'em

Dverde
06-22-2018, 05:30 PM
Go Lonnie Go

ivanfromwestwood
06-22-2018, 06:06 PM
Can we PLEASE move the Kawhi shit to one of the NUMEROUS Kawhi threads and get back to talking about Lonnie IV?

CosmicCowboy
06-22-2018, 06:13 PM
Well, other teams were concerned about his health after his knee surgery but I'm glad the Spurs were willing to take a risk for him. I guess this will work so well :tu

He played 32 games after his surgery. Meniscus tears are no big deal if repaired properly. Might suck when he is 60 but shouldnt affect his NBA career.

Russ
06-22-2018, 06:18 PM
Well, other teams were concerned about his health after his knee surgery but I'm glad the Spurs were willing to take a risk for him. I guess this will work so well :tu

Agreed.

Spurs are great with injuries.

Tim Duncan had meniscus surgery year three and went on to have a great and long career.

Like I said, Spurs are great with managing and treating injuries. :toast

DPG21920
06-22-2018, 06:19 PM
I C WUT U Did

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 06:25 PM
He played 32 games after his surgery. Meniscus tears are no big deal if repaired properly. Might suck when he is 60 but shouldnt affect his NBA career.
:tu

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1009973858005323776 (https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/100997385800532377642)

Some people was worried but without his injury I doubt he would fallen #18 so if the Spurs wanted him, would have had to give something to get him...Now, they got him for nothing. Nice move.

tholdren
06-22-2018, 06:34 PM
He played 32 games after his surgery. Meniscus tears are no big deal if repaired properly. Might suck when he is 60 but shouldnt affect his NBA career.

Well it doesnt even work like that. A majority of meniscus surgeries are just cutting out. And research shows meniscus surgery is no better than placebo.... like a lot of other surgeries pros get and the general public overreacts about.

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 06:35 PM
Agreed.

Spurs are great with injuries.

Tim Duncan had meniscus surgery year three and went on to have a great and long career.

Like I said, Spurs are great with managing and treating injuries. :toast

I didn't say that because Spurs' medical staff...After all, I guess Patty shoulder wasn't just "pain"...Who would have tought he needed a surgery? Spurs' doctors didn't and look at how it ended.

I said that because like others posted here, he's so young and his rehab looked good. That's why I think this wil work so well for him

SAGirl
06-22-2018, 06:36 PM
He was one of the few exceptions with drafting small for me. Hopefully this signals the departure of those bums Porker and Forbes but I won't hold my breath.
been thinking about this... definitely some guards have got to not be back. There already wasn't playing time for white last season. Something's (someone) has got to give...

tholdren
06-22-2018, 06:37 PM
Agreed.

Spurs are great with injuries.

Tim Duncan had meniscus surgery year three and went on to have a great and long career.

Like I said, Spurs are great with managing and treating injuries. :toast

It IS NOT NEEDED.

Russ
06-22-2018, 06:55 PM
I didn't say that because Spurs' medical staff...After all, I guess Patty shoulder wasn't just "pain"...Who would have tought he needed a surgery? Spurs' doctors didn't and look at how it ended.

I said that because like others posted here, he's so young and his rehab looked good. That's why I think this wil work so well for him

Don't freak out, your Kawhi Card is not in jeopardy. :)

YGWHI
06-22-2018, 07:23 PM
Don't freak out, your Kawhi Card is not in jeopardy. :)

Of course not...We're just talking about Lonnie here :)

tholdren
06-22-2018, 07:24 PM
Of course not...We're just talking about Lonnie here :)

Cute emojis guys

daslicer
06-22-2018, 07:30 PM
:tu

https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1009973858005323776 (https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/100997385800532377642)

Some people was worried but without his injury I doubt he would fallen #18 so if the Spurs wanted him, would have had to give something to get him...Now, they got him for nothing. Nice move.

Dwayne Wade had his meniscus taken out when he was in college and still managed to be super athletic up until he hit 30. Westbrook also tore his meniscus a few years ago and still is super athletic. Lonnie should be fine and not have any problems until he hits his 30's.

TheDoctor
06-22-2018, 07:32 PM
You don't tell what Robinson has to say, Kawhi urethra residue, much less calling him idiot...

You don't even talk about Robinson.
You don't even talk at all.

You STFU and stay where you're place is... void, nothingness, oblivion.

Robinson was building spurs legend that your mom was still doing what Kawhi can't do... wipe his own ass.

He has all the rights to speak on behalf of all spurs fans and say what they all think. Our nigga, David.

Robinson IS the spurs, Kawhi is a motherfucking piece of shit, and you are a microb on this piece of shit.

All you do is shitting on Pop, shitting on the Spurs, shitting on Manu, shitting on Parker and now shitting on Robinson.

You're just one big giant shit tap. No, correction. You're just a noxious green-brown shit puddle.

So STFU and stay where you have and you will spend your whole life... insignifiance.

http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2012/09/Billy-D_Approves.gif

tholdren
06-22-2018, 07:36 PM
1010132414830661634

Definitely both banned from 100 ft from a school. Creepy looking

ace3g
06-22-2018, 07:37 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/d95461e1e7086e42e553c571aae32700/5BC83F7B/t51.2885-15/e35/34875558_1758317280904411_1511365086990565376_n.jp g

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkUv9pYn4bl/?hl=en&tagged=lonniewalker

tholdren
06-22-2018, 07:39 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/d95461e1e7086e42e553c571aae32700/5BC83F7B/t51.2885-15/e35/34875558_1758317280904411_1511365086990565376_n.jp g

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkUv9pYn4bl/?hl=en&tagged=lonniewalker

Jesus

LkrFan
06-22-2018, 07:43 PM
Really wanted Grayson Allen

FOH :lmao

tholdren
06-22-2018, 07:46 PM
FOH :lmao

Better vert than walker

BatManu20
06-22-2018, 08:15 PM
1010508520930721792

hooperflash
06-22-2018, 08:25 PM
Why is he wearing #18... Rasual Butler’s old number... when #4 is available.


Metu also wore #4 for USC. Wonder which one will get it.
Is #4 available? What’s White changing his number to?
i made Walker on 2K and actually gave him the #18 because of his draft pick lol

gilmor
06-22-2018, 08:31 PM
DRob would've been another ringless bum without Timmy. Gtfo :lol

You are just so fucking dumb.. DRob is the reason Timmy is even in Spurs..

RD2191
06-22-2018, 08:39 PM
You are just so fucking dumb.. DRob is the reason Timmy is even in Spurs..

You got that right, with that fake injury and all. :lol

barbacoataco
06-22-2018, 08:47 PM
I've been seeing all over the media giving the Spurs high marks for this pick. Any time you get a top 10 pick at 18 it's a winner. Great pick and the Spurs have been needing a slashing SG since forever.

tonight...you
06-22-2018, 08:48 PM
You got that right, with that fake injury and all. :lol
Like Kawhi! But with the opposite effects...

Pavlov
06-23-2018, 03:42 AM
Definitely both banned from 100 ft from a school. Creepy lookingOf course they make you unconfortable. They're black.

NickiRasgo
06-23-2018, 05:44 AM
4 years ago when he's still 15/16 years old.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsfJJ3dyhJQ

diego
06-23-2018, 10:35 AM
:lol Ok.

Nro.1 rule for communication issues: It's never just one side fault.

Between two mentally capable, healthy people, yes. Once you start bringing retards to the equation, it can be one sides fault.

RD2191
06-23-2018, 10:47 AM
Between two mentally capable, healthy people, yes. Once you start bringing retards to the equation, it can be one sides fault.

Pops the retard now, has to beg for Kawhi to stay. :toast

horsielove
06-23-2018, 11:21 AM
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/06/21/draft-prospect-lonnie-walker-wild-conspiracy-theories-giants-hitler

he'll fit right in to our SG rotation :lol:lol

Ed Helicopter Jones
06-23-2018, 11:33 AM
Great choice at 18 and it’s obvious character was a big consideration with this pick. :tu

tholdren
06-23-2018, 01:07 PM
Great choice at 18 and it’s obvious character was a big consideration with this pick. :tu
Animal planet took a front seat to grayson allens athleticism and shooting. How sad

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-23-2018, 01:08 PM
https://i.imgur.com/xGmG33P.jpg


:tu

RD2191
06-23-2018, 01:08 PM
Animal planet took a front seat to grayson allens athleticism and shooting. How sad

You racist pos.

tholdren
06-23-2018, 01:09 PM
You racist pos.

So allen isnt more athletic or a better shooter? Check the stats

Pavlov
06-23-2018, 02:43 PM
So allen isnt more athletic or a better shooter? Check the statsAlso leads in the "intentionally tripping players from Elon and having a meltdown after getting called for it" stat category.

gambit1990
06-23-2018, 03:32 PM
https://www.si.com/nba/2018/06/21/draft-prospect-lonnie-walker-wild-conspiracy-theories-giants-hitler
i guess pop has a lot to teach him.

Vic Petro
06-23-2018, 03:39 PM
i guess pop has a lot to teach him.

The idea that Hitler himself got out is dumb but let’s not pretend several high-ranking Nazi officials didn’t escape and live great lives in Argentina and other places.

Allan Rowe vs Wade
06-23-2018, 03:40 PM
The idea that Hitler himself got out is dumb but let’s not pretend several high-ranking Nazi officials didn’t escape and live great lives in Argentina and other places.

salt

Vic Petro
06-23-2018, 03:44 PM
I love Argentina but it’s a fact they had sympathies at the time


Before the war Argentina hosted a strong, very-well-organized pro-Nazi element that was controlled by the German ambassador. In 1945-46, under Peron's leadership the government quietly allowed entry of a number of Nazi leaders fleeing Europe after Germany's collapse. The number of Nazi fugitives that fled to Argentina surpassed 300. In May 1960, Holocaust administrator Adolf Eichmann (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adolf_Eichmann) was captured in Argentina by the Israeli Mossad and brought to trial, and execution, in Israel.

tholdren
06-23-2018, 03:59 PM
Also leads in the "intentionally tripping players from Elon and having a meltdown after getting called for it" stat category.

Dont care. Spurs need sone edge. Theyre as soft as pudding now that manu will be gone.

Pavlov
06-23-2018, 04:01 PM
Dont care. Spurs need sone edge. Theyre as soft as pudding now that manu will be gone.Nah, the Spurs don't need a cheating low-character affirmative action token white guy to sell tickets. Utah does.

tholdren
06-23-2018, 04:18 PM
Nah, the Spurs don't need a cheating low-character affirmative action token white guy to sell tickets. Utah does.

Lol token white guy. Hes better than the guy spurs drafted based on basketball stats, combine stats, and need. Racist

Pavlov
06-23-2018, 04:25 PM
Lol token white guy. Hes better than the guy spurs drafted based on basketball stats, combine stats, and need. RacistYour charity head case punk regressed during his college career.

Was that racism too?

barakz21
06-23-2018, 06:41 PM
Is it just me or does Walker have huge hands?

ace3g
06-23-2018, 07:49 PM
Lonnie's agent at Catalyst Sports Management

1010151037309804544

1010635232041676800

tonight...you
06-23-2018, 07:55 PM
Lonnie's agent at Catalyst Sports Management

1010151037309804544

1010635232041676800
That's a good man...
Go out there and kill it young blood.

Mr. Body
06-23-2018, 08:11 PM
He looks pretty sharp.

toki9
06-23-2018, 08:41 PM
Lonnie's agent at Catalyst Sports Management

1010151037309804544

1010635232041676800

So he definitely has a real, experienced NBA agent?

ace3g
06-23-2018, 11:13 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/accf2cc28e50ad01ae08299b3de6bcc3/5BB63E20/t51.2885-15/e35/34861163_190255635006177_4838891016746434560_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkYpxxXlh1a/?hl=en&tagged=spurs

sasaint
06-23-2018, 11:29 PM
We really need Elfrid now. Do it, RC!

Dverde
06-23-2018, 11:55 PM
Lonnie's agent at Catalyst Sports Management

1010151037309804544

1010635232041676800

He’s dressed like an African American duckie going to the prom in Sixteen Candles.

tholdren
06-24-2018, 12:03 AM
He’s dressed like an African American duckie going to the prom in Sixteen Candles.

BillMc
06-24-2018, 01:53 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/accf2cc28e50ad01ae08299b3de6bcc3/5BB63E20/t51.2885-15/e35/34861163_190255635006177_4838891016746434560_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkYpxxXlh1a/?hl=en&tagged=spurs

Ace with the goods as always. :toast

SouthTexasRancher
06-24-2018, 05:39 AM
Lonnie Walker is a damn good pick for us and a steal at that. There is a good bet he'll be starting by the All Star break. If somehow Kawhi comes back and we can rid ourselves of the Pau Gasol and Patty Mills over bloated contracts and somehow convince Dewayne Dedmon to come back to the Spurs we'll have a damn good athletic team poised to put us back in the Championship picture. :toast

exstatic
06-24-2018, 07:14 AM
Lonnie Walker is a damn good pick for us and a steal at that. There is a good bet he'll be starting by the All Star break. If somehow Kawhi comes back and we can rid ourselves of the Pau Gasol and Patty Mills over bloated contracts and somehow convince Dewayne Dedmon to come back to the Spurs we'll have a damn good athletic team poised to put us back in the Championship picture. :toast
Dedmon already opted in for ATL.

BatManu20
06-24-2018, 08:15 AM
1010866763809148929

r0drig0lac
06-24-2018, 08:34 AM
We really need Elfrid now. Do it, RC!

no, please

SouthTexasRancher
06-24-2018, 10:44 AM
Dedmon already opted in for ATL.

You are right. I'm a little behind times. Thanks for the correction

Hopefully Chimeize Metu develops quickly.

ace3g
06-24-2018, 12:19 PM
Off Topic: Getting to know Lonnie Walker through the eyes of Jim Larranagahttps://www.expressnews.com/spurs-nation/article/Off-Topic-Getting-to-know-Lonnie-Walker-through-13020438.php

ace3g
06-24-2018, 03:22 PM
1009973162606460928

ace3g
06-24-2018, 06:54 PM
1011034485557784581

TD 21
06-24-2018, 07:14 PM
According to Givony, Spurs had Walker ranked in their top 10. Also, Hawks were in pursuit, in discussions to trade up to 17, but when Charania leaked that the Bucks were selecting DiVincenzo, they pulled out, knowing they were guaranteed either Walker or Huerter and were comfortable enough with the latter to not surrender an additional asset.

cutewizard
06-24-2018, 10:10 PM
Hmmmmm tremendous potential

ace3g
06-24-2018, 10:34 PM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/aa9c03078e095dc780736d1517bf07a3/5BEAD7DE/t51.2885-15/e35/34857170_776859112703925_3666098321958633472_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bkbj7f-Aeac/?taken-by=lonnie.walker.ig

cutewizard
06-24-2018, 10:47 PM
:bobo

Ice009
06-24-2018, 11:23 PM
Is number 4 available? I thought Derrick White had number 4? Has he changed numbers?

DAF86
06-25-2018, 12:23 AM
According to Givony, Spurs had Walker ranked in their top 10. Also, Hawks were in pursuit, in discussions to trade up to 17, but when Charania leaked that the Bucks were selecting DiVincenzo, they pulled out, knowing they were guaranteed either Walker or Huerter and were comfortable enough with the latter to not surrender an additional asset.

lol Bucks.

Chinook
06-25-2018, 12:27 AM
lol Bucks.

Pop should trade Kawhi to MKE as a thank you.

cutewizard
06-25-2018, 12:54 AM
Kawhi for Giannis lol

BackHome
06-25-2018, 12:57 AM
One thing I found out while watching him play this year is that he plays with a lot of emotion. Let's see how Pop handles that cause some players need that emotion to play at the level they play at. Excited to see how he does but one thing he needs to stop posting vids on Youtube cause Pop will check his ass real quick on that.

BatManu20
06-25-2018, 01:05 AM
I think he’s going to roll with #15, his old AAU number, since #4 is already taken.

SpurPadre
06-25-2018, 01:21 AM
I'm sure the vets will tell him real quick to tone it down after a dunk or he'll suffer the wrath of Pop's doghouse, tbh.

cutewizard
06-25-2018, 06:04 AM
I'm sure the vets will tell him real quick to tone it down after a dunk or he'll suffer the wrath of Pop's doghouse, tbh.


:bobo

cutewizard
06-25-2018, 06:06 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/accf2cc28e50ad01ae08299b3de6bcc3/5BB63E20/t51.2885-15/e35/34861163_190255635006177_4838891016746434560_n.jpg

https://www.instagram.com/p/BkYpxxXlh1a/?hl=en&tagged=spurs

Gooooooooooooooooooooooooooo SPURS gooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!

rjv
06-25-2018, 12:59 PM
Definitely both banned from 100 ft from a school. Creepy looking



Of course they make you unconfortable. They're black.

ace3g
06-25-2018, 06:30 PM
1011323663898103808

ace3g
06-25-2018, 06:36 PM
1011379011501649920

Arcadian
06-25-2018, 09:05 PM
Probably one of the better drafts the Spurs have had.

DPG21920
06-25-2018, 09:13 PM
1011379011501649920

This answer was tellling :lmao


Jeff: Let's talk about the Spurs now. Who is the one guy you are looking forward to playing with?

Lonnie: LaMarcus Aldridge and (Dejounte) Murray. Definitely one of those other guys. I actually watched a lot of his (Murray's) tapes and everything ... pretty much the entire team! It's a privilege to play with the team and have a coach (Gregg Popovich) like that.

SpursDynasty85
06-25-2018, 09:21 PM
lol Bucks.

How do we know Spurs did not have Divicenzo ahead of Walker? Divicenzo was a better fit but Walker looks good too. Divicenzo has a higher vertical than Walker and looked like a guy with better handles and fluidity. Reminded me of a Jeremy Lin whom would be a perfect pg for the Spurs too.

K...
06-25-2018, 09:34 PM
How do we know Spurs did not have Divicenzo ahead of Walker? Divicenzo was a better fit but Walker looks good too. Divicenzo has a higher vertical than Walker and looked like a guy with better handles and fluidity. Reminded me of a Jeremy Lin whom would be a perfect pg for the Spurs too.

Stein or woj or someone tweeted it before the draft

BillMc
06-25-2018, 09:36 PM
This answer was tellling :lmao

Even brand new Spurs taking shots (by omission) at Kawhi. :lol

cd98
06-25-2018, 09:37 PM
Wow no mention of Kawhi? Even the rookie knows where to throw shade.

cd98
06-25-2018, 09:38 PM
Beat me by one sec

BillMc
06-25-2018, 09:39 PM
Beat me by one sec

Sorry bro. :toast:lol

RD2191
06-25-2018, 09:50 PM
Scrub gonna get dunked on by Kawhi :wakeup

acoelho1
06-25-2018, 10:26 PM
How do we know Spurs did not have Divicenzo ahead of Walker? Divicenzo was a better fit but Walker looks good too. Divicenzo has a higher vertical than Walker and looked like a guy with better handles and fluidity. Reminded me of a Jeremy Lin whom would be a perfect pg for the Spurs too.

Walker was in the Spurs top ten per RC so he was definitely ahead of Dante.

tholdren
06-25-2018, 10:56 PM
Hopefully hes better than murray

ace3g
06-25-2018, 11:27 PM
from his IG

https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/b88ae4cfc5d67ed5d142ee8b7128ef39/5BB6503B/t51.2885-15/e35/35538840_230508384406063_903132146611257344_n.jpg

https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/8ac93807ea7a86c77a97cca8c2b70375/5BB292B0/t51.2885-15/e35/34815239_281585365718769_1131140587282497536_n.jpg

BatManu20
06-25-2018, 11:29 PM
^nasty.

Chinook
06-25-2018, 11:34 PM
DeJounte like, whos ur camera man?

BackHome
06-26-2018, 12:32 AM
from his IG

https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/b88ae4cfc5d67ed5d142ee8b7128ef39/5BB6503B/t51.2885-15/e35/35538840_230508384406063_903132146611257344_n.jpg

https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/8ac93807ea7a86c77a97cca8c2b70375/5BB292B0/t51.2885-15/e35/34815239_281585365718769_1131140587282497536_n.jpg
Damn dude has some major hoops. Hell yeah!!!

emanueldavidginobili
06-26-2018, 12:52 AM
Just watched a bunch of YouTube vids of him. I’m loving this pick!! This kid is tenacious and is crafty as hell around the rim, with a pretty good looking jump shot that can only improve. I haven’t been this excited in a draft pick in a long time.

kobyz
06-26-2018, 05:54 AM
I'm question his passion for the game...

FlAVaK
06-26-2018, 06:21 AM
I'm question his passion for the game...

A question is your passion for life, tbh.

cutewizard
06-26-2018, 06:24 AM
:bobo

cutewizard
06-26-2018, 06:25 AM
Young Lonnie Walker >>>>>>>>>>>> young kawhi

Namundy
06-26-2018, 06:27 AM
Welp, looks like I'm going to be attending a shit-ton of Toros games.

kobyz
06-26-2018, 06:45 AM
A question is your passion for life, tbh.

You again getting personal?

ElNono
06-26-2018, 06:49 AM
Lonnie Walker > Texas Ranger

NameLess Scrub
06-26-2018, 06:51 AM
In before the kid is a bust that everybody hates and bitterly compares to Kawhi.

FireMicoHalili
06-26-2018, 09:06 AM
It’s worth noting the Spurs have nine guards excluding Hilliard and including Ginobili, should he choose to stay. Five of them are 6’4 or under, even excluding Lonnie’s exaggerated height at 6’5 (looks more like 6’2). One of them will probably go. Parker, Forbes, and Paul are most expendable in ascending order. Wonder which one leaves or gets dealt.

SpursDynasty85
06-26-2018, 09:23 AM
He is extremely raw. I hope I'm wrong but until he starts getting a better rhythm to his game, he is a major injury to himself waiting to happen. He may not like it but I'm sure Pop is going to make him slow it down to a crawl.

TheGreatYacht
06-26-2018, 09:27 AM
Scrub gonna get dunked on by Kawhi :wakeup
Facts.

exstatic
06-26-2018, 09:38 AM
He is extremely raw. I hope I'm wrong but until he starts getting a better rhythm to his game, he is a major injury to himself waiting to happen. He may not like it but I'm sure Pop is going to make him slow it down to a crawl.

LOL. He looks like a 3-4 year vet compared to Kawhi, who could barely dribble.

SpursDynasty85
06-26-2018, 10:04 AM
LOL. He looks like a 3-4 year vet compared to Kawhi, who could barely dribble.

I'm talking purely from a injury prone standpoint. Guys who jump like this always seem to get torn acls and meniscuses. Like I said I hope I'm wrong.

cd98
06-26-2018, 10:05 AM
It’s worth noting the Spurs have nine guards excluding Hilliard and including Ginobili, should he choose to stay. Five of them are 6’4 or under, even excluding Lonnie’s exaggerated height at 6’5 (looks more like 6’2). One of them will probably go. Parker, Forbes, and Paul are most expendable in ascending order. Wonder which one leaves or gets dealt.

The hair makes him 6’9.

Dex
06-26-2018, 10:05 AM
I'm talking purely from a injury prone standpoint. Guys who jump like this always seem to get torn acls and meniscuses. Like I said I hope I'm wrong.

It's okay, Pop will only let him take layups anyways so he should be fine.

SpursDynasty85
06-26-2018, 10:10 AM
It’s worth noting the Spurs have nine guards excluding Hilliard and including Ginobili, should he choose to stay. Five of them are 6’4 or under, even excluding Lonnie’s exaggerated height at 6’5 (looks more like 6’2). One of them will probably go. Parker, Forbes, and Paul are most expendable in ascending order. Wonder which one leaves or gets dealt.

Yep. Spurs have too many guards now. Especially with Green opting in. Should trade two of Patty, Green, and DJ. Probably let TP go.

exstatic
06-26-2018, 10:32 AM
It’s worth noting the Spurs have nine guards excluding Hilliard and including Ginobili, should he choose to stay. Five of them are 6’4 or under, even excluding Lonnie’s exaggerated height at 6’5 (looks more like 6’2). One of them will probably go. Parker, Forbes, and Paul are most expendable in ascending order. Wonder which one leaves or gets dealt.

The Spurs have six guards currently under contract, and that includes Manu, who is questionable to return. If he doesn't, and you sign Walker to his rookie deal, that's still six guards, assuming no trades.

FireMicoHalili
06-26-2018, 10:38 AM
The Spurs have six guards currently under contract, and that includes Manu, who is questionable to return. If he doesn't, and you sign Walker to his rookie deal, that's still six guards, assuming no trades.
White, Walker, Paul, Murray, Mills, Parker, Green, Ginobili, and Forbes. I understand Forbes and Ginobili have expiring contracts while Walker remains unsigned. Not sure if Paul has a team option.

Chinook
06-26-2018, 11:21 AM
White, Walker, Paul, Murray, Mills, Parker, Green, Ginobili, and Forbes. I understand Forbes and Ginobili have expiring contracts while Walker remains unsigned. Not sure if Paul has a team option.

Forbes isn't under contract. Neither is Parker. Walker may well be. So I'd say seven pending Manu. Paul is non-guaranteed

exstatic
06-26-2018, 11:25 AM
White, Walker, Paul, Murray, Mills, Parker, Green, Ginobili, and Forbes. I understand Forbes and Ginobili have expiring contracts while Walker remains unsigned. Not sure if Paul has a team option.

White, Paul, Murray, Mills, Green, Ginobili.

Parker, Forbes, and Anderson are not currently under contract. I don't believe Manu will return. Walker will be added to the roster.

The current # of guards under contract is six.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/SAS.html

rjv
06-26-2018, 11:30 AM
I'm talking purely from a injury prone standpoint. Guys who jump like this always seem to get torn acls and meniscuses. Like I said I hope I'm wrong.


jump like what? most college players jump off both feet and off balance whereas walker can already jump off either foot and on balance. that is an NBA ready skill.

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 11:41 AM
Yeah, from what little I've seen Walker has NBA level athleticism and body control. The rest apparently showed enough potential for the Spurs to be really into him.

SpursDynasty85
06-26-2018, 11:43 AM
jump like what? most college players jump off both feet and off balance whereas walker can already jump off either foot and on balance. that is an NBA ready skill.

He plays off of his incredible athleticism. He mainly reminds me of the way Derrick Rose used to play preinjury. Other guys that come to mind are Blake Griffin and Zach Lavine. All 3 guys ended getting major injuries early in their career. He is a superb athlete but the athletes like these that rely on theirjumping ability are injury prone. Draft night suggested Lonnie Walker slipped to 18 because of injury concerns.

BatManu20
06-26-2018, 11:44 AM
It’s worth noting the Spurs have nine guards excluding Hilliard and including Ginobili, should he choose to stay. Five of them are 6’4 or under, even excluding Lonnie’s exaggerated height at 6’5 (looks more like 6’2). One of them will probably go. Parker, Forbes, and Paul are most expendable in ascending order. Wonder which one leaves or gets dealt.


Walker measured in at the combine at 6’4.5 with shoes on. That’s only 1/4 of an inch shorter than D-Wade measured in at the combine, for comparison. So he’s probably about 6’3.5 barefoot. Donovan Mitchell measured in at 6’3 with shoes on, but has a 6’10 wingspan, similar to Walker.

I wouldn’t be surprised if Walker grew another inch in the next couple years too, seeing as how he’s only 19. Combined with his impressive 6’10.5 wingspan and the fact that he’s an explosive athlete, I don’t see his height being much of an issue.

FvckMavs
06-26-2018, 12:13 PM
He may measure 6'10 with his hair, tbh.

rjv
06-26-2018, 12:24 PM
gotta love ST scouting reports which are based on speculation being preferred over the actual scouting reports which are based on actual measurements.

Pavlov
06-26-2018, 12:28 PM
gotta love ST scouting reports which are based on speculation being preferred over the actual scouting reports which are based on actual measurements.Dude only looks a couple inches tall on my phone tbh.

rjv
06-26-2018, 12:41 PM
Dude only looks a couple inches tall on my phone tbh.

:lol

ace3g
06-26-2018, 04:41 PM
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r0drig0lac
06-26-2018, 04:42 PM
1011725893620961280

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smihat.gif

FireMicoHalili
06-26-2018, 05:09 PM
White, Paul, Murray, Mills, Green, Ginobili.

Parker, Forbes, and Anderson are not currently under contract. I don't believe Manu will return. Walker will be added to the roster.

The current # of guards under contract is six.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/contracts/SAS.html
Thanks for the clarification. I was operating under the premise these players have cap holds and that Walker intends to sign with the team. There is a very real possibility of Parker coming back. Included Forbes since the team values familiarity, which likely means Parker may come back. Regardless, point was the Spurs barely added considerable height. They managed to add athleticism and actual length via Walker’s wingspan, but I remember Lowe saying the lack in height caused mismatches against GS where Mills guarded Thompson at times while Anderson guarded Green or Durant. Anderson was never a guard under my book.

FireMicoHalili
06-26-2018, 05:11 PM
gotta love ST scouting reports which are based on speculation being preferred over the actual scouting reports which are based on actual measurements.
Lol my bad, confused his height with Zhaire Smith (6’2.5 in the combine). No scouting report was made and the haul was decent, on a personal level. Dude looks just a bit taller or as tall as Adam Silver.

FireMicoHalili
06-26-2018, 05:20 PM
gotta love ST scouting reports which are based on speculation being preferred over the actual scouting reports which are based on actual measurements.
Also the original point was he’s not 6’4 or under? Guy is 6’4.5 with shoes on, 6’3.75 without. I’d say that’s decent until the team has to go against squads with taller, longer wings.

DPG21920
06-26-2018, 05:24 PM
I mean, it’s pretty simple. Even if SA takes on a trade for Kawhi with Fultz in it, no biggie. Other moves will be made if Kawhi is moved.

Murray, White, Lonnie, Fultz, Danny, Manu, TP, Mills.

Manu and TP might be gone regardless. So that is 6. You move one of Danny or Mills in a Kawhi deal? You are at a good number.

NASpurs
06-26-2018, 05:33 PM
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I’m hyped for some summer league action. The rooks + White = :tu

FireMicoHalili
06-26-2018, 08:03 PM
I mean, it’s pretty simple. Even if SA takes on a trade for Kawhi with Fultz in it, no biggie. Other moves will be made if Kawhi is moved.

Murray, White, Lonnie, Fultz, Danny, Manu, TP, Mills.

Manu and TP might be gone regardless. So that is 6. You move one of Danny or Mills in a Kawhi deal? You are at a good number.
Making a move isn’t as simple for this front office. Easier said than done.

TheDoctor
06-26-2018, 08:40 PM
Even brand new Spurs taking shots (by omission) at Kawhi. :lol

Uncle Dennis ready to leak to Jabari that PATFO was behind these comments :lmao

ace3g
06-26-2018, 10:19 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyfva7bPSsQ

cutewizard
06-27-2018, 02:33 AM
:bobo

BillMc
06-27-2018, 06:32 AM
Uncle Dennis ready to leak to Jabari that PATFO was behind these comments :lmao
:lol

cutewizard
06-27-2018, 10:02 AM
:lobt2:

james evans
06-27-2018, 01:24 PM
I mean, it’s pretty simple. Even if SA takes on a trade for Kawhi with Fultz in it, no biggie. Other moves will be made if Kawhi is moved.

Murray, White, Lonnie, Fultz, Danny, Manu, TP, Mills.

Manu and TP might be gone regardless. So that is 6. You move one of Danny or Mills in a Kawhi deal? You are at a good number.
Fultz is pure garbage. I wouldn’t even trade Parker for him

Spurs9
06-27-2018, 01:27 PM
Fultz is pure garbage. I wouldn’t even trade Parker for him

:rolleyes

ace3g
06-27-2018, 07:25 PM
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rastaspur
06-27-2018, 08:50 PM
Fultz is pure garbage. I wouldn’t even trade Parker for him

Ouch.

BatManu20
06-27-2018, 09:10 PM
Fultz is pure garbage. I wouldn’t even trade Parker for him

Then you wouldn’t last a week as a GM.

ace3g
06-28-2018, 06:23 PM
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tmtcsc
06-28-2018, 09:18 PM
Fultz is pure garbage. I wouldn’t even trade Parker for him

Now you've gone too far.

ace3g
06-28-2018, 09:31 PM
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/6/26/17507150/san-antonio-spurs-lonnie-walker-iv-breakingt-shirt-hair

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/E_UF_Fau153chXjS_-XAAV_423w=/0x0:2213x2000/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:2213x2000)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11602753/LonnieIV_NBPI_BreakingT_shirt.jpg

james evans
06-29-2018, 12:06 AM
Now you've gone too dar.
This past season, Parker’s contact had 1 year left. You’d have traded that expiring contract for a 1st pick contract pg that can’t shoot or stay healthy?

bklynspursfan
06-29-2018, 01:38 PM
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cd98
06-29-2018, 01:40 PM
https://www.poundingtherock.com/2018/6/26/17507150/san-antonio-spurs-lonnie-walker-iv-breakingt-shirt-hair

https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/E_UF_Fau153chXjS_-XAAV_423w=/0x0:2213x2000/1200x0/filters:focal(0x0:2213x2000)/cdn.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/11602753/LonnieIV_NBPI_BreakingT_shirt.jpg

That's already more marketable than the Claw. If this dude is any good at basketball, he will be a marketing force given his eccentric personality.

DPG21920
06-29-2018, 01:41 PM
I love how Lonnie is truly savoring each moment. Incredible to see how this rookie is in awe of this franchise. Refreshing after all we’ve seen this year.

SpurPadre
06-29-2018, 01:43 PM
Lonnie, whatever you do, do not under ANY circumstance, introduce your gf to TP, tbh.

SpurPadre
06-29-2018, 01:46 PM
I love how Lonnie is truly savoring each moment. Incredible to see how this rookie is in awe of this franchise. Refreshing after all we’ve seen this year.

Seems like a really good kid. Not only might he turn out to be the steal of the draft but we got another in the long line of humble, high character players, whom I'm sure PATFO weren't expecting to land on their laps.

BatManu20
06-29-2018, 02:36 PM
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BatManu20
06-29-2018, 02:37 PM
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picnroll
06-29-2018, 02:41 PM
Whatever you do don’t let Jabari Parker near a young Spurs player. Probably already whispering Lakers in his ear.

exstatic
06-29-2018, 02:44 PM
Whatever you do don’t let Jabari Parker near a young Spurs player. Probably already whispering Lakers in his ear.

Or 76ers...

I think after the resolution of the Kawhi situation, no matter what, he's never getting credentialed in the AT&T Center again.

Spurs9
06-29-2018, 02:46 PM
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Probably Silo Oyster bar

Killakobe81
06-29-2018, 02:59 PM
Seems like a really good kid. Not only might he turn out to be the steal of the draft but we got another in the long line of humble, high character players, whom I'm sure PATFO weren't expecting to land on their laps.

On this, we agree. Like this kid he seems hard nose.
I also think Murray has potential to be very good.
To many people on ST want to write off prospects way to early.

Killakobe81
06-29-2018, 03:03 PM
Hopefully hes better than murray

Murray showed flashes, he is young.
Spurfans, sometimes you overrate teh players you like and destroy murray who has shown some potential.
Doubt he will ever be a "star" but you you are not gonna field 4 all-stars on a team unless you are Golden state.

BackHome
06-29-2018, 03:37 PM
I’ll take home grown rather then bought any day. I think him White, and Murray are going to click and be good friends. Glad to see the Spurs pushing for the youth movement. No all I want now is to bring over Nikola and trade K-Y and all is good

objective
06-29-2018, 03:45 PM
1012762206402998273

Perfect quote.

"I'm very."

bklynspursfan
06-29-2018, 03:49 PM
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Dverde
06-29-2018, 03:54 PM
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Saying the right things.

Dex
06-29-2018, 03:54 PM
Perfect quote.

"I'm very."

:lol

BackHome
06-29-2018, 03:56 PM
Just his personality is going to have a huge impact on the team. After dealing with K-Y or should I say dealing with his drama all year long will be refreshing to everyone players, coaches, owners, and above all FANS!!

KDKSpurs24
06-29-2018, 03:57 PM
Perfect quote.

"I'm very."
They probably should’ve put the question in the tweet. I’m sure they asked him how ready he was. I haven’t watched the interview tho.

RD2191
06-29-2018, 03:58 PM
Just his personality is going to have a huge impact on the team. After dealing with K-Y or should I say dealing with his drama all year long will be refreshing to everyone players, coaches, owners, and above all FANS!!

Lonnie looks like a huge faggot tbh

objective
06-29-2018, 03:59 PM
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Uh oh. Focused on the jersey across his chest?

jabroni just got triggered. Doesn't Lonnie know that nobody is supposed to care about the front per Jabari?

picnroll
06-29-2018, 04:01 PM
Probably Silo Oyster bar

Is Jabari Young a retard an asshole or both asking a 19 year old kid on an interview that will go national if he drank wine in a public place. Way to start a kids career off d-bag.

FvckMavs
06-29-2018, 04:03 PM
Is Jabari Young a retard an asshole or both asking a 19 year old kid on an interview that will go national if he drank wine in a public place. Way to start a kids career off d-bag.

Both, tbh.

Harry Callahan
06-29-2018, 04:09 PM
Jabari is a really stupid guy and a rank amateur.

I hope his one way ticket out of town is punched soon. He has to REMIND us he is from Philthydelphia every five minutes or so. He was also paying no attention to what LW was saying and had to ask about a rapper instead of doing his freakin job and asking about NBA basketball.

rjv
06-29-2018, 04:12 PM
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i like this kid already.

exstatic
06-29-2018, 04:13 PM
Uh oh. Focused on the jersey across his chest?

jabroni just got triggered. Doesn't Lonnie know that nobody is supposed to care about the front per Jabari?

That's funny. ALL of these kids are immersed in social media. It wouldn't surprise me at all if he had read Jabari's idiotic comment about the name on the back of the jersey being more important than the name on the front, and that this response was a dig at him, and showing that he doesn't agree with that

picnroll
06-29-2018, 04:14 PM
i like this kid already.

+1
Nice to have young players that are intelligent and socially well adjusted.

Dex
06-29-2018, 04:22 PM
Jabari is a really stupid guy and a rank amateur.

I hope his one way ticket out of town is punched soon. He has to REMIND us he is from Philthydelphia every five minutes or so. He was also paying no attention to what LW was saying and had to ask about a rapper instead of doing his freakin job and asking about NBA basketball.

If he thinks he is ever getting any leaks from the Spurs after giving Kawhi the reach-around, he has another thing coming. Guy's days as the Spurs mouthpiece are over.

exstatic
06-29-2018, 04:37 PM
If he thinks he is ever getting any leaks from the Spurs after giving Kawhi the reach-around, he has another thing coming. Guy's days as the Spurs mouthpiece are over.

He's NEVER been the Spurs mouthpiece. Johnny Ludden has been gone from the E-N for YEARS, and still gets more stuff from the organization. That may be why Jabari is so damn salty.

Spur|n|Austin
06-29-2018, 04:55 PM
I love how Lonnie is truly savoring each moment. Incredible to see how this rookie is in awe of this franchise. Refreshing after all we’ve seen this year.

Agreed, a bit of a breath of fresh air. Hope he grows into the player that it looks like he could be.

look_at_g_shred
06-29-2018, 06:51 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkoJ97NAO3-/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1grv3fq778bm2

that off dribble jumper looks very legit man. When’s the last time spurs had that?

dabom
06-29-2018, 07:01 PM
https://www.instagram.com/p/BkoJ97NAO3-/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=1grv3fq778bm2

that off dribble jumper looks very legit man. When’s the last time spurs had that?
Chinook.

SAGirl
06-29-2018, 07:06 PM
This guy is super intriguing. The whole package. :flag:

Chinook
06-29-2018, 07:07 PM
Chinook.

Hey now. Danny hit that step-back over Gibson in the season opener.

#NeverForget

Vic Petro
06-29-2018, 07:08 PM
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Russ
06-29-2018, 07:30 PM
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Already throwing Kawhi under the bus.

Very savvy. Very political.

Me gusta!

:flag:

Russ
06-29-2018, 07:39 PM
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On the other hand . . .

Talking about "the jersey across my chest."

Please be more sensitive you brute.

You're driving him away!

Dex
06-29-2018, 08:14 PM
On the other hand . . .

Talking about "the jersey across my chest."

Please be more sensitive you brute.

You're driving him away!

:lol How dare players say something that could hurt poor Kawhi's feelings!?

BackHome
06-29-2018, 08:58 PM
Yeah can’t wait for Rob and Gambit and Duncan will read this will have 5 pages of “Walker caused K-Y to leave cause he was meang “ :blah

Ice009
06-29-2018, 10:49 PM
Anyone have a link to the full interview?