Spurs Select G Lonnie Walker IV in the 2018 NBA Draft (18th Overall)

[BD24]

He got the last page on Sports Illustrated two weeks ago (my personal favorite issue of the year- the "Where are they Now" ish- had an awesome story about Run TMC) and SI calls him the Most Interesting Rookie. He thinks the moon landings were faked, the earth and all of us are part of an illusion but still needs to "research it further" and hangs out with people who think we devolved from giants.

This dude has more issues that could easily be picked on and laughed at the way Cosmo is universally laughed at for his bat shittery. Why can't everyone find common ground and laugh at this dude because he's fuckin insane?
Hahaha. It does sound like Cosmos cousin is playing in the nba

[Play Boban]

He got the last page on Sports Illustrated two weeks ago (my personal favorite issue of the year- the "Where are they Now" ish- had an awesome story about Run TMC) and SI calls him the Most Interesting Rookie. He thinks the moon landings were faked, the earth and all of us are part of an illusion but still needs to "research it further" and hangs out with people who think we devolved from giants.

This dude has more issues that could easily be picked on and laughed at the way Cosmo is universally laughed at for his bat shittery. Why can't everyone find common ground and laugh at this dude because he's fuckin insane?
:lol Hot damn. Why did we draft a nut? :lol

[Play Boban]

https://www.si.com/nba/2018/06/21/lonnie-walker-iv-nba-draft-2018-mock-draft-miami-kyrie-irving


“Just because you see things in the sky, doesn’t mean it was there,” Walker said. “The background, the surroundings. Y’all tried to make it look too much like a moon. The details were almost too great. You’re doing too great of a job. There’s no way it looks this nice or is this well done.”
That was only the beginning, as he descended into a labyrinth of conspiracy theories. Did slaves really build the Egyptian Pyramids? Did all humans used to be giants? Did Adolf Hitler and his wife, Eva Braun, stage their suicides in 1945?
“One of my favorite ones is the whole Hitler thing,” Walker said. “Them supposedly dying. Him and his wife. That whole allegation. I just feel like as a great powerful leader, there was no way you were by yourself in a house and you died, whenever it shall be. It just doesn’t add up. … He definitely escaped.”

[Chucho]

Det Sideshow Bob haircut hides the lobotomy scars really, really well.

[duncan2k5]

So he definitely has a real, experienced NBA agent?

So did Kawhi

[xellos88330]

God, what a stupid fucking post.

Blacks didn't get their independence on July 4th like you did, inbred boy. Also, why does he have to "stick to basketball"? Do you have to "stick to corn farming"?

What I am saying is simple. If you are an AMERICAN CITIZEN, then this is your country. End of story. It is a NATIONAL holiday, not a RACE holiday. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not figure out that the two are completely different things. July 4th has nothing to do with what color your dumb ass skin is. It has everything to do with the nation you belong to. Jesus christ this place has become full of imbeciles who can't figure out how to separate nationality from race. Sure it took a while for the USA to finally abolish all of the slave and segregation bullshit, but the fact remains that it fucking did. If you still feel like you cannot trust the country, then you have no business calling yourself an American citizen.

[xellos88330]

stupidist thing I've read all day, which is saying a lot considering what sort of shit gets posted here.

So who is your slave master then?

[Pavlov]

What I am saying is simple. If you are an AMERICAN CITIZEN, then this is your country. End of story. It is a NATIONAL holiday, not a RACE holiday. How fucking stupid do you have to be to not figure out that the two are completely different things. July 4th has nothing to do with what color your dumb ass skin is. It has everything to do with the nation you belong to. Jesus christ this place has become full of imbeciles who can't figure out how to separate nationality from race. Sure it took a while for the USA to finally abolish all of the slave and segregation bullshit, but the fact remains that it fucking did. If you still feel like you cannot trust the country, then you have no business calling yourself an American citizen.lol snowflake

Dude didn't feel like celebrating the birth of a slave nation. No big deal.

[xellos88330]

NONE OF YOU HAD TO PAY ENGLISH TAXES!!!

lmao goddamn you're a retard, man.

I DON'T have to pay English taxes today because of it. THAT is what I am celebrating you fuckwit. It is called logic. Fucking use it you waste of space.

[xellos88330]

lol snowflake

Dude didn't feel like celebrating the birth of a slave nation. No big deal.

I am not upset with him not celebrating it. I am upset with him making 4th of July a race issue. It clearly is NOT. Even if there were no independence day and we were all tea drinking limeys, who just so happened to not do anything about the ownership of slaves, it still wouldn't have been a race issue. Racism/slavery is completely separate from the birth of a nation. The reality is that the USA has moved on from those days, and for some reason, people want to remain stuck in that quagmire of horse shit. Get over yourselves and move the fuck on already.

[Pavlov]

I am not upset with him not celebrating it. I am upset with him making 4th of July a race issue. It clearly is NOT. Even if there were no independence day and we were all tea drinking limeys, who just so happened to not do anything about the ownership of slaves, it still wouldn't have been a race issue. Racism/slavery is completely separate from the birth of a nation. The reality is that the USA has moved on from those days, and for some reason, people want to remain stuck in that quagmire of horse shit. Get over yourselves and move the fuck on already.Then you'll give up all the rebel flags and confederate monuments and state holidays, right?

[xellos88330]

Then you'll give up all the rebel flags and confederate monuments and state holidays, right?

I personally don't give a shit about rebel flags or statues. That shit is in the past and will not be here again. I am pretty sure that a vast majority of us agree on that. We won't let it happen. Statues, flag and holiday removals won't change a damn thing. So why waste your energy on something that most everybody already knows? It makes no sense and it is a complete and total waste of time. If anything their removal will trigger a backlash of support for the wrong side. Just let the racists die out already. Don't give them a reason to spread their vitriol that can be publicly supported.

[Pavlov]

I personally don't give a shit about rebel flags or statues. That shit is in the past and will not be here again. I am pretty sure that a vast majority of us agree on that. We won't let it happen. Statues and flags won't change it.And yet, the statues and flags and holidays remain.

As soon as those are gone, you'll have a more valid argument that Walker should move on. Otherwise, you need to be telling the confederacy worshipers to do the same thing with equal fervor.

[xellos88330]

And yet, the statues and flags and holidays remain.

As soon as those are gone, you'll have a more valid argument that Walker should move on. Otherwise, you need to be telling the confederacy worshipers to do the same thing with equal fervor.

It is the same for everyone. MOVE THE FUCK ON!!!

[Pavlov]

It is the same for everyone. MOVE THE FUCK ON!!!But they haven't, so why should he?

[xellos88330]

And yet, the statues and flags and holidays remain.

As soon as those are gone, you'll have a more valid argument that Walker should move on. Otherwise, you need to be telling the confederacy worshipers to do the same thing with equal fervor.

I see things simply. I don't recognize Walkers skin color at all. What I do recognize is the hard work he put in to get where he is now. It isn't easy to be one of the best baksetball players in the world. Instead of talking about race, make it about the work. The past is never perfect, and the future never will be either.

[Pavlov]

I see things simply.No shit.

[Play Boban]

I don’t know how anyone could defend what this flat earther thinks. :lol

[xellos88330]

But they haven't, so why should he?

When one moves on, the other has nothing to cling to.

[xellos88330]

No shit.

That is what the problem is. People over complicate things and forget the basics. That is NEVER a good thing. It only snowballs into one big clusterfuck.

[Pavlov]

When one moves on, the other has nothing to cling to.:lol your theory is that all the vestiges of the confederacy are being preserved because one black kid is being uppity about the 4th.

[xellos88330]

:lol your theory is that all the vestiges of the confederacy are being preserved because one black kid is being uppity about the 4th.

It is not just one. Look at the support he generated. Now tell me what will the other side start to do?

[Pavlov]

That is what the problem is. People over complicate things and forget the basics. That is NEVER a good thing. It only snowballs into one big clusterfuck.The US started out as a slave nation. Walker doesn't want to celebrate that. Pretty simple.

[Pavlov]

It is not just one. Look at the support he generated.Your theory is the preservation movement began this week due to one uppity black kid and his twitter followers.

:lol

[xellos88330]

The US started out as a slave nation. Walker doesn't want to celebrate that. Pretty simple.

It started as one. Look where we are now. Gotta see the bigger picture instead of being stuck in the past.

[xellos88330]

Your theory is the preservation movement began this week due to one uppity black kid and his twitter followers.

:lol

So the civil rights movement didn't start until one person decided to speak out and then it gained support. You REALLY don't understand sociology do you?

[Pavlov]

It started as one. Look where we are now. Gotta see the bigger picture instead of being stuck in the past.That's complicating the issue; the complete opposite of the simplification you wanted in the first place.


So the civil rights movement didn't start until one person decided to speak out and then it gained support. You REALLY don't understand sociology do you?No, in this case I don't . Explain how Walker's tweet started the confederate preservation movement.

[xellos88330]

That's complicating the issue. The complete opposite of what you wanted in the first place.

No, in this case I don't . Explain how Walker's tweet started the confederate preservation movement.

USA was a slave nation. Now it is not. Wow. Super complicated.

It didn't start it as it has been ongoing since the end of the civil war. What it did, was add fuel to the fire. Now the "confederate preservation movement" can say, "Look at what he said. This is why they are bad. They don't even love the country!!!" The sad part is that idiots will listen to that crap. Then the idiots on the other side will start yelling more and then the racists will yell more, and so on and so forth.

[Play Boban]

The US started out as a slave nation. Walker doesn't want to celebrate that. Pretty simple.
Walker is a flat earther who believes in giants. Who cares what this nut thinks? :lol

[Pavlov]

USA was a slave nation.See? Simple. Just the way you say you want it.


It didn't start it as it has been ongoing since the end of the civil war. What it did, was add fuel to the fire. Now the "confederate preservation movement" can say, "Look at what he said. This is why they are bad. They don't even love the country!!!"How can people who celebrate seceding from the US love the US?

[Pavlov]

Walker is a flat earther who believes in giants. Who cares what this nut thinks? :lolYou're here repeating what he thinks.

[xellos88330]

See? Simple. Just the way you say you want it.

How can people who celebrate seceding from the US love the US?

Come on dude. It isn't rocket science. How do you get support for your cause? Just look at what politicians do. They latch onto anything they can to get people on their side in order to gain power. It is the same damn thing. A lot of this stuff is common sense and you shouldn't need me to explain this to you.

[xellos88330]

Also, the simplest statement is, "The USA isn't a slave nation anymore." See what I did there? Learn it, live it, love it. It contains both past and present.

[Pavlov]

Come on dude. It isn't rocket science. How do you get support for your cause? Just look at what politicians do. They latch onto anything they can to get people on their side in order to gain power. It is the same damn thing. A lot of this stuff is common sense and you shouldn't need me to explain this to you.So he didn't start the preservation movement and has no effect on it now.

OK.

[Pavlov]

Also, the simplest statement is, "The USA isn't a slave nation anymore." See what I did there? Learn it, live it, love it. It contains both past and present.No, that's more complicated than "The USA started a slave nation."

[xellos88330]

So he didn't start the preservation movement and has no effect on it now.

OK.

Either you are a damn good troll, or you may have some logic deficiency.

[xellos88330]

No, that's more complicated than "The USA started a slave nation."

How can that be true if that is not what we are now? We are not a slave nation. So your statement is incorrect. You would have to say, "The USA started AS a slave nation." In order for your statement to be true the USA would still have to be a slave nation.

[picnroll]

So rather than coming into a situation with mentoring from Duncan, Parker and possibly Manu Walker likely will get a morose, makcontented mute in Leonard. G

[Pavlov]

How can that be true if that is not what we are now?Fewer words. Also shows what the US was on the actual birth date.

[xellos88330]

So rather than coming into a situation with mentoring from Duncan, Parker and possibly Manu Walker likely will get a morose, makcontented mute in Leonard. G

Well, maybe it can show him how NOT to be. LOL!!! That is what I am hoping for.

[xellos88330]

Fewer words. Also shows what the US was on the actual birth date.

So what about my correction doesn't show that the USA started as a slave nation? All I did was add 2 letters to it.

[Pavlov]

So what about my correction doesn't show that the USA started as a slave nation? All I did was add 2 letters to it.It has more words and complicates the issue.

[xellos88330]

It has more words and complicates the issue.

Perhaps my "simple" is too complex for you then?

[Pavlov]

Perhaps my "simple" is too complex for you then?You're the one who doesn't want it to be as simple as possible anymore.

I hope you learned your lesson.

[xellos88330]

You're the one who doesn't want it to be as simple as possible anymore.

I hope you learned your lesson.

I said that I like to keep it simple. Apparently what is simple for me is too complex for you to comprehend, or you are just doing this because you know you lost the debate. My bet is on the latter.

[Pavlov]

I said that I like to keep it simple. Apparently what is simple for me is too complex for you to comprehend, or you are just doing this because you know you lost the debate. My bet is on the latter.You actually tried to complicate the issue.

[xellos88330]

You actually tried to complicate the issue.

What is so complex about saying that the USA was a slave nation? Is it only complex to you because it is indisputable?

Not celebrating the 4th of July in present time because the USA was a slave nation in 1776, is completely stupid. I could understand not celebrating it, and in fact would support the decision if we lived in that time period, or if the USA was still a slave nation. Holding a grudge for over 200+ years just isn't a good look. You have to focus on the now.

[Pavlov]

What is so complex about saying that the USA was a slave nation? Is it only complex to you because it is indisputable?

Not celebrating the 4th of July in present time because the USA was a slave nation in 1776, is completely stupid. I could understand not celebrating it, and in fact would support the decision if we lived in that time period, or if the USA was still a slave nation. Holding a grudge for over 200+ years just isn't a good look. You have to focus on the now.OK, snowflake. Spend your time getting worked up over some 19 year old's tweet.

It's a really good look.

[xellos88330]

OK, snowflake. Spend your time getting worked up over some 19 year old's tweet.

It's a really good look.

Awww isn't that cute. Can't defeat my logic so goes ad hominem. What is really working me up is how you cling to stupidity and fail to see reason.

[Pavlov]

Awww isn't that cute. Can't defeat my logic so goes ad hominem. What is really working me up is how you cling to stupidity and fail to see reason.So go with your own ad hominem?

Walker has a simple argument saying the US started out a slave nation. You tried to complicate it saying "but -- but 89 years later!"

That's an argument to celebrate something like December 18 -- which is Walker's argument.

[tholdren]

It's not ignorant from him. Your posting and confusion is precisely why it's being discussed.

Totally ignorant....

[xellos88330]

So go with your own ad hominem?
Walker has a simple argument saying the US started out a slave nation. You tried to complicate it saying "but -- but 89 years later!"

It isn't ad hominem if it is fact.

He doesn't want to celebrate it because of how it started? Yet he celebrates his being drafted in the NBA. I am pretty sure that is not how he started.

[xellos88330]

That's an argument to celebrate something like December 18 -- which is Walker's argument. So why not celebrate that date too? Nobody is stopping him.

[Pavlov]

It isn't ad hominem if it is fact.No.


He doesn't want to celebrate it because of how it started? Yet he celebrates his being drafted in the NBA. I am pretty sure that is not how he started.:lol what are you even trying to say now?


So why not celebrate that date too? Nobody is stopping him.Nobody is stopping you from getting worked up about a 19 year old's tweet about not celebrating a date.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I DON'T have to pay English taxes today because of it. THAT is what I am celebrating you fuckwit. It is called logic. Fucking use it you waste of space.

Bruh, worshipping governments is for people who are to be used by others.

I celebrate the 4th too, but shouting down people who don't is prime faggotry. And again, as you were saying, you weren't there. And then was a different time for black folks, whether you like hearing that or not.

Stop taking it personally.

There are politicians waay more influential than Lonnie Walker IV who are actually trying to do harm to people that look like him with their words (and actions). Dude can say whatever the fuck he wants.

Stop complaining about stupid shit.

[ohmwrecker]

Fucking nationalists are bunch of weakass chumps.

[BackHome]

What’s a nationalist?

[SAGirl]

Lonnie already getting spurstalk all riled up I see.

[Play Boban]

What are we going to do when Lonnie misses a game because he’s chasing down Hitler and Eva Braun tbh? He knows they’re alive apparently..........

[Joseph Kony]

people who get offended over nationalistic shit are fucking morons :lol

[Mr. Body]

What is so complex about saying that the USA was a slave nation? Is it only complex to you because it is indisputable?

Not celebrating the 4th of July in present time because the USA was a slave nation in 1776, is completely stupid. I could understand not celebrating it, and in fact would support the decision if we lived in that time period, or if the USA was still a slave nation. Holding a grudge for over 200+ years just isn't a good look. You have to focus on the now.

You sound white.

[tim_duncan_fan]

You sound white.

White and entitled.

[tholdren]

You sound white.

Why?

[BackHome]

OMG - You all need to get a room!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Chinook]

Awww isn't that cute. Can't defeat my logic so goes ad hominem. What is really working me up is how you cling to stupidity and fail to see reason.

An insult is not an ad homenim. An ad homenim is when someone uses a fact or allegation about their opponent to discredit their point. Calling you a snowflake is not an ad homenim. But saying something like "You're white, so you wouldn't know what it's like for black people in the US" very well could be, especially if your argument wasn't dependent on feelings in the first place.

[ducks]

So why not celebrate that date too? Nobody is stopping him.

Some states can only shoot fireworks around july 4

[dbestpro]

An insult is not an ad homenim. An ad homenim is when someone uses a fact or allegation about their opponent to discredit their point. Calling you a snowflake is not an ad homenim. But saying something like "You're white, so you wouldn't know what it's like for black people in the US" very well could be, especially if your argument wasn't dependent on feelings in the first place.

Everyone always thinks the grass is greener on the other side.

[LakerHater]

https://images2.imgbox.com/25/ff/8M7kIv9W_o.gif

[Play Boban]

6/18 :lol

[BatManu20]

6/18 :lol

He missed his last few attempts when we were down and they were forcing it a bit. But he looked good today, much better than he did the past couple games. You can clearly see his potential.

[cd98]

Yes, he had two wild misses, but he had some shots that rimmed out. A lot in fact. But not nearly as many rim outs as White. The ball bounces a little differently and White could have had 30+ points.

The only thing that looked a little odd about Walker was his finishes in the lane. He's going to have to work on those. He does some odd stuff that is going to get swatted when he has to go against NBA quality bigs.

He did show some great athleticism on that lob dunk on a fast break.

[tholdren]

https://images2.imgbox.com/25/ff/8M7kIv9W_o.gif

Runs a fast break better than murray, still worse than allen. Slower and less vert.

[Play Boban]

He missed his last few attempts when we were down and they were forcing it a bit. But he looked good today, much better than he did the past couple games. You can clearly see his potential.

15 points on 18 shots:lol

[tholdren]

15 points on 18 shots:lol
Should have celebrated the 4th

[xellos88330]

Why?

It is most likely because of my sentence structure combined with my arguments being mostly common with "white folk". It is really sad when others try to bring you down because of a good education.

[Chinook]

Runs a fast break better than murray, still worse than allen. Slower and less vert.

Walker was actually the fastest player at the combine. The cone time measures agility, not speed.

[tholdren]

Walker was actually the fastest player at the combine. The cone time measures agility, not speed.

Speed directly correlates with vert. But thanks

[tholdren]

Chinook trying to step outside comfort zone and gets beat back down to contract rulesvand salary cap. Like the effort tho

[Shastafarian]

1015704102834061313

[DJR210]

That was nasty ^

[SAGirl]

https://images2.imgbox.com/25/ff/8M7kIv9W_o.gif
Stop showing us basketball... All spurfan cares about is whether Lonnie is celebrating 4th of July or is boycotting holidays bc he wants to make a social statement... Making you feel bad for celebrating it yourself. After all, how can we care about basketball, There's planets, There's world piece, There's climate change, animal extinctions, sexual exploitation, racisracism, povertp, sickness etc. Get out of here with that basketball. :lmao

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Anyone who talks about slavery in the context of a guy pulling down twenty million a year and set to make 220 milllion plus endorsements is a fucking idiot.

[FireMicoHalili]

A 19 year-old just forced a bunch of trolls and internet wankers to debate about slavery and talk about racism. I love sports. Well done, Lonnie.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

WGAF if he celebrates the 4th of July. I hope he spent his entire Wednesday on the court.

[Chinook]

Speed directly correlates with vert. But thanks

Walker isn't slower than Allen. That's the point.

[Pavlov]

Walker isn't slower than Allen. That's the point.lol white people

[Biggems]

As long as he isn't out there on some crime spree or off doing whatever drugs he can put into his body, including PEDs, who gives a damn how he spends his day.

He is a free man in a free country with the freedom to spend his holidays how he wishes, as long as he isn't breaking any laws. Not celebrating is legal.

So carry on LW.....

However, that hair on draft night, deserved a fine. It was brutal.

[BatManu20]

Anyone who talks about slavery in the context of a guy pulling down twenty million a year and set to make 220 milllion plus endorsements is a fucking idiot.

[venitian navigator]

completely agree...and also more that idiot is an ingrateful idiot 'cause the hand he's biting is the one that gave him the food and knowledge and training to become somebody with that potential value...(220 mills + endorsements)

[Pavlov]

I'm not sure what we're talking about anymore tbh. Did a player actually say something about slavery and NBA contracts or did someone here just fall for HH's repeated shtick?

[JPB]

Lulz muricans.

[kobyz]

I feel his game his a show of without much substance, plays without heart and never make a positive defensive play...

[FireMicoHalili]

Stop showing us basketball... All spurfan cares about is whether Lonnie is celebrating 4th of July or is boycotting holidays bc he wants to make a social statement... Making you feel bad for celebrating it yourself. After all, how can we care about basketball, There's planets, There's world piece, There's climate change, animal extinctions, sexual exploitation, racisracism, povertp, sickness etc. Get out of here with that basketball. :lmao
Meltdown looks great on you. Actually thought you had levelheaded takes until recently where you’ve started to blend right in with the crowd. You fit along just fine here, along with Mr. Palisoc and kobyz. Phones with autocorrect are amazing by the way, unless you really meant a piece of the world.

[TrainOfThought5]

A 19 year-old just forced a bunch of trolls and internet wankers to debate about slavery and talk about racism. I love sports. Well done, Lonnie.

[picnroll]

Need to change the title of this thread to The Lonnie Walker Political Discussion Thread.

[RGMCSE]

Dude's a bust...

[r0drig0lac]

Det Sideshow Bob haircut hides the lobotomy scars really, really well.

hahahaha

[tholdren]

Walker isn't slower than Allen. That's the point.

Lol twist twist twist. Go back to salary

[Pavlov]

Dude's a bust...
lol as predicted you turned on him and will never ever say anything positive about him.

[tholdren]

lol as predicted you turned on him and will never ever say anything positive about him.

Umad

[Pavlov]

Umad
No, I correctly predicted whitey would be mad.

Hint: you're also whitey.

[tholdren]

No, I correctly predicted whitey would be mad.

Hint: you're also whitey.

Hahah youre so mad. Hilarious

[Pavlov]

Hahah youre so mad. HilariousMad about what?

Explain.

[tholdren]

Mad about what?

Explain.

Meeellllllltttttt dooooowwwwnnnnnnn

[Chinook]

Lol twist twist twist. Go back to salary

You're a terrible troll when you try to step out of your Gran Torino shtick. You said something factually inaccurate. Own up to it.

[Marcus Bryant]

Can he ball? Not, do his politics and historical views complement mine?

[BSfromTX]

I'm not sure what we're talking about anymore tbh. Did a player actually say something about slavery and NBA contracts or did someone here just fall for HH's repeated shtick?

Everyone is assuming he was referring to slavery still being accepted during the birth of our nation, however I believe it could be more than just that. Our country struggled for the ability to create its own money outside the central banks of Europe’s control. Many believe the United States was still just another colony for the British empire, which is arguably what it evevntually became.

As for LWIV. I see him spending first part of season in Austin until he settles and gets a better feel for the game. His shot and range looks awesome

[SAGirl]

Meltdown looks great on you. Actually thought you had levelheaded takes until recently where you’ve started to blend right in with the crowd. You fit along just fine here, along with Mr. Palisoc and kobyz. Phones with autocorrect are amazing by the way, unless you really meant a piece of the world.
:lol If you think that's a meltdown. It's actually a mild, very mild troll statement. It's funny how people get off the rails here so quickly. and others get sanctimonious.

[SAGirl]

Need to change the title of this thread to The Lonnie Walker Political Discussion Thread.
:lol

[SAGirl]

Lulz muricans.
:lol

[Bellboy]

Need to change the title of this thread to The Lonnie Walker Political Discussion Thread.

[Bellboy]

:pop:
Obviously an astute political young man. I’m playing this rookie.

[RGMCSE]

lol as predicted you turned on him and will never ever say anything positive about him.

Dude I said it then and I’ll say it again. I don’t take this shit seriously. I’m having fun. You are fucking triggered as hell. Hey guys I got a stage 5 clinger over here.

[tholdren]

You're a terrible troll when you try to step out of your Gran Torino shtick. You said something factually inaccurate. Own up to it.

Lolololol i said vert and speed were correlated. Thats a fact. If his vert is higher he is faster. Its actually physics. Read

[Birn]

Poor Lonnie. He made his first rookie mistake. I'll forgive him since he's just too young and immature to understand the history of our great nation. Like many blacks who attend college, they get their American "history" from an introductory course in Afro American studies, which are generally filled with socialist dogma designed to instill resentment and animosity in young black Americans. So sad. Fortunately for Lonnie, he only had to go to 1 year of college. We celebrate the 4th as a nation to come together and praise the birth of a nation whose founders ensured that all people were created equal and all people were endowed the basic natural rights from God - life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. We've come a very long way from the time our nation was born and over the past 242 years we've built a stronger and better nation and we'll continue to become a better nation. The founding fathers and their philosophy of a free and liberated people through a construct of basic human rights founded in natural law, in my opinion, were truly heavenly sent. At the time our nation was born, slavery was prevalent in the US and all over the world. The world slavery trade was in existence thousands of years before Columbus found America. As a new and free nation, we endured the scourge of slavery for a time until our nation's citizens stood up and demanded the abolishment of slavery. Our nation lost hundreds of thousands of it's citizens fighting a civil war that was predominantly about slavery. Our citizens who fought and died in those battles did so to ensure that future generations of Americans wouldn't have to endure the evil of slavery. We fought and won that battle and as a result we led the rest of the world in the abolishment of slavery. Unfortunately, there are still countries in existence today that still practice slavery. What's worse is that most countries that still practice slavery today are black nations torturing their fellow black citizens.


Our nation is a great nation. Are we perfect? Of course not. That's why we've always strived to form a more perfect union. From women's suffrage to the civil rights act, our nation has always endured and become better so that we are always working toward becoming a more perfect union. I love our country and celebrate it's birth with great pride and thanksgiving.


Hopefully, Lonnie will keep growing and learning as both a man and an American. I also love his game. He's going to be a major contributor in a couple of seasons. Kind of reminds me of a young Dwyane Wade.

[Pavlov]

Dude I said it then and I’ll say it again. I don’t take this shit seriously. I’m having fun. You are fucking triggered as hell. Hey guys I got a stage 5 clinger over here.lol the ol' "I troll u" gambit.

[Chinook]

Lolololol i said vert and speed were correlated. Thats a fact. If his vert is higher he is faster. Its actually physics. Read

Except their speed was also measured, just like their vert, and Walker was faster. No need to break out your abacus to determine speed when we already know Walker is objectively faster.

[rascal]

Walker was a good pick at 18.
Athletic players with upside should be the Spurs targets now as they are going to have to rebuild their talent as their championship core is gone now.
Still needs to cut that freaky hair though.

[FireMicoHalili]

:lol If you think that's a meltdown. It's actually a mild, very mild troll statement. It's funny how people get off the rails here so quickly. and others get sanctimonious.
It’s also funny how people are stupid :lol also judging by your overreaction to a 19 year-old’s tweet I would describe you as sanctimonious and someone who got off the rails quickly :downspin:

[FireMicoHalili]

Except their speed was also measured, just like their vert, and Walker was faster. No need to break out your abacus to determine speed when we already know Walker is objectively faster.
If you notice his argumentation he has no sources but compels you to read up on his points instead of providing factual bases. Sad, low IQ internet trolls.

[tholdren]

Except their speed was also measured, just like their vert, and Walker was faster. No need to break out your abacus to determine speed when we already know Walker is objectively faster.

Hes not. First thing you do is take a firsr grade science class. Learn about mass, force, power and acceleration. Then come back to me. Its physics....

[tholdren]

If you notice his argumentation he has no sources but compels you to read up on his points instead of providing factual bases. Sad, low IQ internet trolls.

Force mass acceleration.... jesus you two are dumb as rocks. Where were you in science during grades 1 through 12?

[tholdren]

It’s also funny how people are stupid :lol also judging by your overreaction to a 19 year-old’s tweet I would describe you as sanctimonious and someone who got off the rails quickly :downspin:

More or less dumb than adults using avatars and emojis?

[Pavlov]

Hes not. First thing you do is take a firsr grade science class. Learn about mass, force, power and acceleration. Then come back to me. Its physics....


Force mass acceleration.... jesus you two are dumb as rocks. Where were you in science during grades 1 through 12?Then why are Walker's measured times faster then the white guy's?

[tholdren]

Then why are Walker's measured times faster then the white guy's?

Then why is his vert less than the white guy?

[ducks]

white and black guys have red blood

[Pavlov]

Then why is his vert less than the white guy?Because he didn't jump as high.

You didn't answer my question:

Why are Walker's measured times faster then the white guy's?

[FireMicoHalili]

Force mass acceleration.... jesus you two are dumb as rocks. Where were you in science during grades 1 through 12?
What? :lol Speed is distance over time, but that’s cool not everyone gets it the first time

[tonight...you]

Then why is his vert less than the white guy?
lol... You're so caustic... I love it. Pray continue.

[BatManu20]

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[FireMicoHalili]

More or less dumb than adults using avatars and emojis?
Grasping at straws :lol irritated by a 19 year-old basketball player’s political views :lol speed is “force mass acceleration” :lol

[BatManu20]

Pop giving LW the Boris Diaw treatment

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[tonight...you]

Grasping at straws :lol irritated by a 19 year-old basketball player’s political views :lol speed is “force mass acceleration” :lol
He still writes 81 cent checks at the Gas Station for a pack of gum... It's awesome.

[tonight...you]

Pop giving LW the Boris Diaw treatment

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Pop is learning a valuable lesson: don't let the Uncles come in between... Be the Uncle yourself.
Nice.

[palangi]

Hes not. First thing you do is take a firsr grade science class. Learn about mass, force, power and acceleration. Then come back to me. Its physics....

If your going to attack someone's intelligence it's always a good thing to proof read your post before posting...firsr grade science class. What the hell is that?

[ducks]

I wonder if he will vote as a resident in florida or texas

[tonight...you]

I wonder if he will vote as a resident in florida or texas
Both, and then he'll watch gerrymandering in action and realize a few truths that were never explained to him in school.

[tholdren]

What? :lol Speed is distance over time, but that’s cool not everyone gets it the first time

Because the idea of vert and speed is rate force development. Youre getting in over your head, but please keep trying to argue this. Like watching a trainwreck about to happen....

[Mr. Body]

Pop is learning a valuable lesson: don't let the Uncles come in between... Be the Uncle yourself.
Nice.

"Look at me. Look at me. I am the uncle now."

[Pavlov]

Hes not. First thing you do is take a firsr grade science class. Learn about mass, force, power and acceleration. Then come back to me. Its physics....


Force mass acceleration.... jesus you two are dumb as rocks. Where were you in science during grades 1 through 12?


Then why are Walker's measured times faster than the white guy's?


https://media1.tenor.com/images/07ee3c85f8df251c0466cc32b8e35e7f/tenor.gif

[tholdren]

Again, sad that you dont understand basic physics. But keep touting those times that you have no idea the science behind.... ironic name

[tonight...you]

Again, sad that you dont understand basic physics. But keep touting those times that you have no idea the science behind.... ironic name
Just answer the question genius.

[Pavlov]

Again, sad that you dont understand basic physics. But keep touting those times that you have no idea the science behind.... ironic nameWhy are Walker's measured times faster than the white guy's?

[tholdren]

Just answer the question genius.

Rfd. The end

[tonight...you]

Rfd. The end
You're a god damned fraud and an unenjoyable one, at that.
I know: Go cry some more. Good lord, you're a joke that can't even back herself up.

[tholdren]

You're a god damned fraud and an unenjoyable one, at that.
I know: Go cry some more. Good lord, you're a joke that can't even back herself up.

So you just admit you have no idea what rfd is or how its the science behind strength speed performance? So your ignorance makes you mmmeeeelllltttttt dooooolwwwnwnnnnnnnn. Tyoical

[FireMicoHalili]

Because the idea of vert and speed is rate force development. Youre getting in over your head, but please keep trying to argue this. Like watching a trainwreck about to happen....
Rate of Force Development isn’t calculated by speed but higher RFD most certainly determines better speed, which is strange since Allen has higher vert and lane agility stats but did much worse in the shuttle run and the three-quarter sprint. Yikes

[Chinook]

Hes not. First thing you do is take a firsr grade science class. Learn about mass, force, power and acceleration. Then come back to me. Its physics....

I'm pretty sure you have no idea how those apply here. Regardless, Walker is faster. That's been demonstrated empirically. No physicist would disagree there.

[tholdren]

Rate of Force Development isn’t calculated by speed but higher RFD most certainly determines better speed, which is strange since Allen has higher vert and lane agility stats but did much worse in the shuttle run and the three-quarter sprint. Yikes
Kind of. At least youre trying to better yourself. Yes rfd is measured by time, its how fast you develop force.

[Chinook]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/07ee3c85f8df251c0466cc32b8e35e7f/tenor.gif

Gradually turning into blackness is probably Tho's greatest fear.

[tholdren]

I'm pretty sure you have no idea how those apply here. Regardless, Walker is faster. That's been demonstrated empirically. No physicist would disagree there.

Lol here come ls chinook with his nonsense. You know zero about athleric performance, so just read, dont type

[tholdren]

Gradually turning into blackness is probably Tho's greatest fear.

No my greatest fear is that people on this board are real and pass their ignorance on in person....

[Chinook]

Lol here come ls chinook with his nonsense. You know zero about athleric performance, so just read, dont type

You don't need to know anything to look at the measurements and know Walker is faster. You just need eyes, and I gots them.

[tonight...you]

So you just admit you have no idea what rfd is or how its the science behind strength speed performance? So your ignorance makes you mmmeeeelllltttttt dooooolwwwnwnnnnnnnn. Tyoical
Ummm... no. I didn't. "Tyoical".

[Chinook]

No my greatest fear is that people on this board are real and pass their ignorance on in person....

Okay, so slowly but irreversibly turning black is your second-greatest fear.

[tonight...you]

Lol here come ls chinook with his nonsense. You know zero about athleric performance, so just read, dont type
Take your own advice.

[tholdren]

You don't need to know anything to look at the measurements and know Walker is faster. You just need eyes, and I gots them.

Hahahha, just proves how bad you are at identifying and analyzing ability. Stay in your lane. Contracts and salary.

[FireMicoHalili]

Kind of. At least youre trying to better yourself. Yes rfd is measured by time, its how fast you develop force.
Tldr Grayson isn’t faster. He jumps higher but isn’t necessarily faster than Walker. He develops force well but isn’t faster than a guy who tore his knee.

and damn, man, be better. Not for the posters here but for yourself.

[Chinook]

Hahahha, just proves how bad you are at identifying and analyzing ability. Stay in your lane. Contracts and salary.

I'm in my lane of looking at numbers and knowing which ones ones are bigger and small. Someone else measured the speed. I'm just reporting that Walker is faster.

[tholdren]

Tldr Grayson isn’t faster. He jumps higher but isn’t necessarily faster than Walker. He develops force well but isn’t faster than a guy who tore his knee.

and damn, man, be better. Not for the posters here but for yourself.
He is. Again, its science

[tholdren]

I'm in my lane of looking at numbers and knowing which ones ones are bigger and small. Someone else measured the speed. I'm just reporting that Walker is faster.
He was faster at that test, hes not faster.

[tonight...you]

He is. Again, its science
And you can't spell, or know how to type beyond a 5th grade level.

[tonight...you]

He was faster at that test, hes not faster.
I don't know that word. What's a hes?

[tholdren]

Okay, so slowly but irreversibly turning black is your second-greatest fear.

Nope. But this squirming is awesome. I always could get you to engage in, melt down, and lose

[Chinook]

He was faster at that test, hes not faster.

But Allen always jumps higher than Walker even though Allen only measured a half-inch higher on the vertical test while Walker creamed him on the sprint?

[BackHome]

Thol didnt' I tell you to get laid? You need a life bro get out of your Mama's house and actually talk to people face to face and yeah getting laid will help with all that frustration you have....:toast

[tholdren]

I don't know that word. What's a hes?

Lol post post post, you can identify all the misspellings you want, you lost, and youre melting down. Sad.

[tholdren]

But Allen always jumps higher than Walker even though Allen only measured a half-inch higher on the vertical test while Walker creamed him on the sprint?

Both verts. And agility. Hes faster. Youve been pwned

[tonight...you]

Nope. But this squirming is awesome. I always could get you to engage in, melt down, and lose
Jesus man. You write like you're smart, but you can't spell, understand decent grammar, or punctuate with any intelligence. You do know sentences end with a period?
And you joke about emojis...

[tonight...you]

Lol post post post, you can identify all the misspellings you want, you lost, and youre melting down. Sad.
You're an angry fraud. It's cool.

[Chinook]

Nope. But this squirming is awesome. I always could get you to engage in, melt down, and lose

I'm pretty sure we're all just bored, hopefully you included.

[FireMicoHalili]

He is. Again, its science
Leaving this here: https://stats.nba.com/draft/combine-strength-agility/ numbers speak for themselves and your theory doesn’t hold up

Also:
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:l ol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol :lol:lol:lol:lol

[tholdren]

Jesus man. You write like you're smart, but you can't spell, understand decent grammar, or punctuate with any intelligence. You do know sentences end with a period?
And you joke about emojis...

Lol clinging to grammar, when we originally were arguing athletic performance? Shocking.... tonight, you lose

[FireMicoHalili]

But Allen always jumps higher than Walker even though Allen only measured a half-inch higher on the vertical test while Walker creamed him on the sprint?
His science can’t explain it. All this because the Spurs didn’t draft a college player who’s going to be mediocre at best. All this because a 19 year-old said he wouldn’t celebrate the 4th of July. Love Lonnie.

[tholdren]

I'm pretty sure we're all just bored, hopefully you included.

There are a couple of angry ones out there. Pointing out all my grammatical shortcomings... drink up

[tonight...you]

Lol clinging to grammar, when we originally were arguing athletic performance? Shocking.... tonight, you lose
Lose what? You're the idiot that tries to come off as smart and can't make a post without an error.
You expose yourself, fraud.

[tholdren]

His science can’t explain it. All this because the Spurs didn’t draft a college player who’s going to be mediocre at best. All this because a 19 year-old said he wouldn’t celebrate the 4th of July. Love Lonnie.

His science. Hahahaha allen has better metabolism and is faster. Sorry its true

[tholdren]

i gay.

[tonight...you]

His science. Hahahaha allen has better metabolism and is faster. Sorry its true
Is there a test for metabolism? Huh...

[tonight...you]

Oh wow... there is. That's pretty neat.

[tholdren]

Is there a test for metabolism? Huh...
Actually there is

[SAGirl]

It’s also funny how people are stupid :lol also judging by your overreaction to a 19 year-old’s tweet I would describe you as sanctimonious and someone who got off the rails quickly :downspin:
Oh boy. You have become a schtick Mico.

[tonight...you]

Well... did I touch a nerve?

[tonight...you]

Actually there is
Yeah! I just looked it up. I'm impressed.

[tholdren]

Well... did I touch a nerve?

No. You at least googled something before you posted. Step one. Step two, you have to not melt.down. its sad

[tonight...you]

No. You at least googled something before you posted. Step one. Step two, you have to not melt.down. its sad
My friend... at least be intelligible. That's all I'm asking.

[FireMicoHalili]

Oh boy. You have become a schtick Mico.
Best you can do? Okay. Lovely day. Be better for yourself and read books. And quit being so triggered by a kid.

[FireMicoHalili]

Yeah! I just looked it up. I'm impressed.
Allen topped it at the combine too. Managed to eat and digest 60 sausages without using hands.

[tonight...you]

Allen topped it at the combine too. Managed to eat and digest 60 sausages without using hands.
I just snorted, I laughed so forcefully. My wife just laughed at me.
You dirty so-and-so...

[cutewizard]

Walker is still raw.....most rookies are

[stu scotts eye]

No. You at least googled something before you posted. Step one. Step two, you have to not melt.down. its sad

Tholdren mentioning "meltdown" again in a thread? Broken record...

[SAGirl]

Best you can do? Okay. Lovely day. Be better for yourself and read books. And quit being so triggered by a kid.
... :wakeup ...
I don’t have to do anything about you tbh.

[monkeypunk]

Okay, so slowly but irreversibly turning black is your second-greatest fear.

:lol

[Mr. Body]

Okay, so slowly but irreversibly turning black is your second-greatest fear.

Haha, wow.

[ace3g]

Chuck Miketinac MAXSportsSA

(https://twitter.com/MaxSportsSA) 4m (https://twitter.com/MaxSportsSA/status/1016867881857044480)
Just got off the phone with Davis Bertans' agent, Happy Walters, confirms 2-year deal with the Spurs.

Chuck Miketinac MAXSportsSA
(https://twitter.com/MaxSportsSA) 53s (https://twitter.com/MaxSportsSA/status/1016868905611079680)
Happy Walters also reps Spurs 1st Round Pick Lonnie Walker IV, and says LW4'S first pro contract is "imminent, should be done in the next day or so."

[BatManu20]

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[TheDoctor]

Pop is learning a valuable lesson: don't let the Uncles come in between... Be the Uncle yourself.
Nice.
:lol

[ace3g]

From his agent:

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[Mr. Body]

From his agent:

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Somehow I missed that Walker is left handed?

[dabom]

Somehow I missed that Walker is left handed?

I was watching him and was like "wow he dribbles good with his left." :lol

[BatManu20]

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[Ron Swanson]

He wants to be apart of the Spurs. Uncle Dennis got to him. :depressed

[BackHome]

Good catch it never even occurred to me he was left handed.

[Play Boban]

He wants to be apart of the Spurs. Uncle Dennis got to him. :depressed
I thought he was an “intellectual type”, and he’s posting typos to his Instagram. :lol

[rastaspur]

What? :lol Speed is distance over time, but that’s cool not everyone gets it the first time


If your going to attack someone's intelligence it's always a good thing to proof read your post before posting...firsr grade science class. What the hell is that?


I'm pretty sure you have no idea how those apply here. Regardless, Walker is faster. That's been demonstrated empirically. No physicist would disagree there.

Tholdren is clueless. He thinks that mass, force, power and acceleration are taught in the first grade.

He must have been homeschooled by neil degrasse tyson. Most school curriculums dont teach science in first grade and if they do its a field trip to the local park to look at grasshoppers or some trivial bs.

You dont get to the meat and bone of science until usually 6th or 7th grade.

This dude is about as full of it as apo.

[Mr. Body]

Tholdren is clueless. He thinks that mass, force, power and acceleration are taught in the first grade.

He must have been homeschooled by neil degrasse tyson. Most school curriculums dont teach science in first grade and if they do its a field trip to the local park to look at grasshoppers or some trivial bs.

You dont get to the meat and bone of science until usually 6th or 7th grade.

This dude is about as full of it as apo.

There's no way tholdren would be caught alone in a room with a black man.

[rastaspur]

What? :lol Speed is distance over time, but that’s cool not everyone gets it the first time


If your going to attack someone's intelligence it's always a good thing to proof read your post before posting...firsr grade science class. What the hell is that?


There's no way tholdren would be caught alone in a room with a black man.

:lol. True

It was probably hans rosling. He looks like he kills "darkies" on a weekly basis.

[dabom]

Walker a lefty? More props.

[TimDunkem]

Goddamn. Tholdren should just stop posting at this point. And here I thought him stalking me for over a year was embarrassing. :lol

[Chinook]

There's no way tholdren would be caught alone in a room with a black man.

Tho be like

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/CheerfulElegantEyra-size_restricted.gif

[Vic Petro]

Somehow I missed that Walker is left handed?

He shoots with his right hand

[dabom]

He shoots with his right hand

Wtf...

[tholdren]

Wtf...

Hes that smart

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqKqVxAYcbM

[cutewizard]

interesting kid huh

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56XdgUhiaj8

[DAF86]

Somehow I missed that Walker is left handed?


I was watching him and was like "wow he dribbles good with his left." :lol

He shoots with his right hand.

[stu scotts eye]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqKqVxAYcbM

Too much talking

[DAF86]

Too much talking

Were you expecting a dance routine on a one-on-one interview?

[stu scotts eye]

[QUOTE=DAF86;9471976]Were you expecting a dance routine


Whoops. Meant to quote cutewizards video. Narratir was annoying

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I hope Lonnie gets really really political and starts an anti-autism campaign.

[Gagnrath]

Det Sideshow Bob haircut hides the lobotomy scars really, really well.

You know lobotomy scars are inside the eye sockets anyway no need for any haircut to hide things.

[BatManu20]

He hasn't even been the best Spur tbh. That'd be Derrick White. But he's definitely shown flashes of his upside.

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[Chinook]

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No wonder that dude is a FORMER basketball ops guy.

[SpursDynasty85]

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He's shown some incredible flashes but no way has he been the best. He hasn't even been the best on his own team (White).

[BatManu20]

Lonnie's new profile pic on twitter


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1017229754557128706/XJzpRawj_400x400.jpg

[Mr. Body]

Walker has shown nice flashes, but is far from there yet.

[rjv]

No wonder that dude is a FORMER basketball ops guy.


as opposed to our self-proclaimed ST experts who have never been basketball ops 'guys'.

[Mr. Body]

No wonder that dude is a FORMER basketball ops guy.

It doesn't say he's a former ops guy.

[SpursDynasty85]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56XdgUhiaj8

Lonnie needs a ton of work and focus on his 1 on 1 defense. Gets beat off the dribble too easily still.

[tonight...you]

Somehow I missed that Walker is left handed?
Immediately Aces in my book.
Manu is too...

[tonight...you]

Wtf...
I did that too, in high school.
Probably why I sucked, lol. Couldn't help it.
Left-handed, but did and do a ton of things with the right.

[John B]

this guy has a chip on his shoulder growing up disadvantaged. i think it will fuel him to be aggressive out there

[tholdren]

Pick looking more like murray garbage than steal

[Mr. Body]

Pick looking more like murray garbage than steal

They can't all be white superstars like Grayson, right?

[spurs50_]

I hope we didn't screw up by picking this guy..

[Play Boban]

Not even shooting 35% from the floor. Scrub :lol

[ECOV]

Lol judging a 19 year old nba player

[tholdren]

They can't all be white superstars like Grayson, right?

Umad?

[Mr. Body]

Umad?

Why don't you become a Utah fan, so you can watch that beautiful man play full time?

[tholdren]

Why don't you become a Utah fan, so you can watch that beautiful man play full time?
Melting down

[Mr. Body]

Melting down

Pretty moist, are ya? I figured.

[keithington1]

Right now he plays exactly like JR Smith all the way down to the shot selection. Lets hope Pop can get him to be more like Jimmy Butler. His IQ and spacial awareness is lacking. He will be deadly once he learns to choose his spots within the flow of the offense.

[K...]

No parts on his injury? I heard he died, I guess we'll see

[BatManu20]

Right now he plays exactly like JR Smith all the way down to the shot selection. Lets hope Pop can get him to be more like Jimmy Butler. His IQ and spacial awareness is lacking. He will be deadly once he learns to choose his spots within the flow of the offense.I agree his decision making is crap right now. Feels like he’s gotten by off talent alone up to this point in his career. Now it’s time to learn how to really play the game. Time for Pop and the Coaching Staff to do their thing.

[cutewizard]

Lonnie's new profile pic on twitter


https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1017229754557128706/XJzpRawj_400x400.jpg


:bobo

[ceperez]

Right now he plays exactly like JR Smith all the way down to the shot selection. Lets hope Pop can get him to be more like Jimmy Butler. His IQ and spacial awareness is lacking. He will be deadly once he learns to choose his spots within the flow of the offense.

He's only 19 and played half a season in college. Of course he's got no clue as to what's happening on the court!

Dejounte also had the same problem.

[duncan2150]

Plus he was not that bad at passing, he made 3 yesterday but he could have made more.

Actually he’s ajusting, he was not the main guy in Miami si he needs To find his rythm offensively.

[ECOV]

Every body expects each player we draft to be a super star right out the gate ..stop comparing let the man grow as a person and as a basketball player

[Spur|n|Austin]

Lol judging a 19 year old nba player

This. Notice the only ones talking trash are the usual suspect krew.