Corner Poccet Compton Crips Safe House of DeMar DeRozan

[sasaint]

Derozan with Spurs gear on

https://scontent-dfw5-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/9e9e740fd3511dae45f112702374d098/5BFEC81E/t51.2885-15/e35/37870171_510318659423232_7979317257576644608_n.jpg ?_nc_eui2=AeEogn3lqVLKwAk_emd-u1NXaMeP6uzAt6sCAF2Y6sHcipJFWpEu88WHsfqydfKNmm7Svd iQJ9eV-fM92b3oErrG

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmHjT8yl6LA/?hl=en&tagged=demarderozan

Doubt we see any Kawhi counter-parts to this photo. Quite a contrast between the respective circumstances of DeMar and Number 2. DeMar being pushed away from a city, a team and fans to which he was completely dedicated, while Number 2 shunned the city, team and fans that had supported him. Fans in Toronto sad to see one of their franchise greats going to another team, while fans in SA are relieved to see Kawhi banished to the frozen north.

[daslicer]

Doubt we see any Kawhi counter-parts to this photo. Quite a contrast between the respective circumstances of DeMar and Number 2. DeMar being pushed away from a city, a team and fans to which he was completely dedicated, while Number 2 shunned the city, team and fans that had supported him. Fans in Toronto sad to see one of their franchise greats going to another team, while fans in SA are relieved to see Kawhi banished to the frozen north.

Raptor fans are crappy fans. I have read what they have had to say about the Spurs and the Kawhi situation. They are already defending Kawhi and badmouthing the Spurs. I will take satisfaction when Kawhi bails on Toronto and their team is in the lottery for the next 10 years. Fuck that fan base.

[Leetonidas]

I never really thought about those Spurs under user's names. Now that I've checked, how come I don't have one for being an OG? It seems that I signed up before you did.

Probably because you didn't ask kori? I had to bug her to give me one like ten years ago :lol

[bklynspursfan]

1028005446462844929

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DrewLeague/status/1028436976255492096

[ace3g]

DeRozan's Drew League playoff run is over - lost to Glen "Big Baby" Davis' team

https://twitter.com/Big3N3ws/status/1028701201112686592

MHP

#

PTS
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DJ SHELTON
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Demar Derozan
24
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SHANNON SHARP
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Jordan Clarkson
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Victor Rudd
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Reggie Murphy
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Nick Young
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[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F53vp7H0glU

Cheers. Many thanks for posting. Hungry for the season to start. :hungry:

[Seventyniner]

DeRozan's Drew League playoff run is over - lost to Glen "Big Baby" Davis' team

Looks like a typical DeRozan stat line, perhaps with a few more missed 3s than normal.

[RD2191]

DeRozan's Drew League playoff run is over - lost to Glen "Big Baby" Davis' team

https://twitter.com/Big3N3ws/status/1028701201112686592

MHP

#

PTS
2PA
2PM
3PA
3PM
FTA
FTM
REB
AST
STL
BLK
TO
PF


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DJ SHELTON
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Demar Derozan
24
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SHANNON SHARP
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Jordan Clarkson
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Victor Rudd
10
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Reggie Murphy
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Nick Young
17
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Pretty discouraging tbh :lol

[SpursDynasty85]

DeRozan's Drew League playoff run is over - lost to Glen "Big Baby" Davis' team

https://twitter.com/Big3N3ws/status/1028701201112686592

MHP



#

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2PA
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DJ SHELTON
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Demar Derozan
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SHANNON SHARP
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Jordan Clarkson
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Victor Rudd
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Reggie Murphy
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Nick Young
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Drew League seems like a circus. Sometimes they look like they play serious, sometimes it just looks like they don't care at all on "D". One thing is for sure, Derozan's Defense is non existent in these Drew League games. Hope he gets better on defense or we are in for some trouble.

[JuneJive]

His defense will get exposed, right? How can it not?

I still think the damage can be minimized, but it'll be a tough one.

[tonight...you]

Drew League seems like a circus. Sometimes they look like they play serious, sometimes it just looks like they don't care at all on "D". One thing is for sure, Derozan's Defense is non existent in these Drew League games. Hope he gets better on defense or we are in for some trouble.
I almost guarantee Pop is going to him with the mindset of just you do you, but buy into our defensive system.
On O, you're good. I won't change what you're good at, but we have a Defensive system here and it needs you to be a part of it.

Here's where we start...

[SpursDynasty85]

I almost guarantee Pop is going to him with the mindset of just you do you, but buy into our defensive system.
On O, you're good. I won't change what you're good at, but we have a Defensive system here and it needs you to be a part of it.

Here's where we start...

Yea I can see that but incorporating him into the offense won't be a cakewalk either. I'm sure Pop is super motivated to figure out how to compete right away. Hopefully he starts letting loose the youngins.

[tonight...you]

Yea I can see that but incorporating him into the offense won't be a cakewalk either. I'm sure Pop is super motivated to figure out how to compete right away. Hopefully he starts letting loose the youngins.
From your keyboard to the big fella in the sky.

[cutewizard]

Cheers. Many thanks for posting. Hungry for the season to start. :hungry:

Thank you good Sir.....

[cutewizard]

I almost guarantee Pop is going to him with the mindset of just you do you, but buy into our defensive system.
On O, you're good. I won't change what you're good at, but we have a Defensive system here and it needs you to be a part of it.

Here's where we start...

Agree.......

[cutewizard]

Yea I can see that but incorporating him into the offense won't be a cakewalk either. I'm sure Pop is super motivated to figure out how to compete right away. Hopefully he starts letting loose the youngins.


Its young jedi time.......

[cutewizard]

May the Spurs win it all again this year.....

[BSfromTX]

I almost guarantee Pop is going to him with the mindset of just you do you, but buy into our defensive system.
On O, you're good. I won't change what you're good at, but we have a Defensive system here and it needs you to be a part of it.

Here's where we start...

i agree. Pop will have to sell him on giving more effort on defense. Good thing about his offense is that he seems like a good and willing passer. Hopefully it’s not 100% iso ball

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/NBASTORE/status/1028360790045282304

[tonight...you]

https://twitter.com/NBASTORE/status/1028360790045282304
No clearance pricing on the Ginobili jersey...
He's coming back.

[hooperflash]

https://twitter.com/NBASTORE/status/1028360790045282304
Hyped for the 2010-2011 Season! :flag: :tongue

[Stabula]

From your keyboard to the big fella in the sky.

The one down below is much more responsive, I assure you.

[Stabula]

Agree.......

Are you actually cute?

[tonight...you]

The one down below is much more responsive, I assure you.
From his keyboard to the big fella down below.

[ace3g]

BmZmFc3HxXq

[DPG21920]

Damn that uni is fire!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Nat_Carnegie/status/1029557063255449600

https://twitter.com/cashmad/status/1029495349373595648

If you want to check out his official site:

https://www.demarderozan.com/

[Realdeal1]

He hasn't even played a game yet but you can tell Demar is going to be a fan favorite here in SA

[John B]

He hasn't even played a game yet but you can tell Demar is going to be a fan favorite here in SA
A better person than he replaced for sure

[cutewizard]

Are you actually cute?

Totally, hahahaha

:bobo

[cutewizard]

BmZmFc3HxXq


Beautiful!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Nat_Carnegie/status/1029864795514626048

[BackHome]

DeMar is a perfect Spurs player he is grounded he is humble and he is a Blue collar guy who just loves the game. I think he is going to be a fan favorite and I think he will do OK on defense it is not like the guy is not athletic if he just plays into the team defense he will be fine. His offense game will really help us the guy is just so smooth like butter he gets his shots off so easy and mid range he is a killer. Really looking forward to the new season and just want to thank the Raptors for giving us this guy.

[Since89]

He will improve on defense. This dude will pour his heart out for the Spurs. Emotional as he is, I believe POP is the perfect coach for him.

[cutewizard]

DeMar is a perfect Spurs player he is grounded he is humble and he is a Blue collar guy who just loves the game. I think he is going to be a fan favorite and I think he will do OK on defense it is not like the guy is not athletic if he just plays into the team defense he will be fine. His offense game will really help us the guy is just so smooth like butter he gets his shots off so easy and mid range he is a killer. Really looking forward to the new season and just want to thank the Raptors for giving us this guy.


agree

[cutewizard]

https://twitter.com/Nat_Carnegie/status/1029864795514626048

:bobo

[cutewizard]

BmZmFc3HxXq


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Coolest uniform imho, hehehehe

[TDMVPDPOY]

so his wearing no.10...he better be better then the clown who wore that number in 98/99 who sat on the bench and received a championship ring :D

[sasaint]

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Coolest uniform imho, hehehehe

The color arcs behind the logo should be in the same order as the bands on the jersey.

[tonight...you]

Are you actually cute?
She has a very cute soul... I wouldn't doubt if she was actually physically cute herself.
Which I'm sure you will have a unique perspective of said comment.

I enjoy those insights.

Got Psychotronic Man on the tube right now... great movie!

[BatManu20]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkwGV1EU8AArl4k.jpg

[TheRemix]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DkwGV1EU8AArl4k.jpg
Thats dope.

[Stabula]

She has a very cute soul... I wouldn't doubt if she was actually physically cute herself.
Which I'm sure you will have a unique perspective of said comment.

I enjoy those insights.

Got Psychotronic Man on the tube right now... great movie!

Who's more likely to actually be a man, her or SAGirl?

[Fantasleep]

SOUP IS THE NAME OF THE ARTIST

[exstatic]

Who's more likely to actually be a man, her or SAGirl?

Both?

[exstatic]

SOUP IS THE NAME OF THE ARTIST

Who is Andy Warhol for 500, Alex?

[tonight...you]

Who's more likely to actually be a man, her or SAGirl?
She most certainly is.

[ace3g]

BmmbLtwjk_7

BmhjAovFdp4

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BenDuBose/status/1031316477603966982

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JayxClay/status/1021904376514981888

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/iFFOE2018/status/1031734564392251392

https://twitter.com/iFFOE2018/status/1031734672370348034

https://twitter.com/iFFOE2018/status/1031734766356324352

[ace3g]

Don't like posting Kobe stuff but Bleacher Report has DD in Spurs gear in this graphic

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1033021400355876869

[cutewizard]

Any news on JamalcCrawford guys?

Jamal and Derozan could be something......

[iGetbuckets]

Any news on JamalcCrawford guys?

Jamal and Derozan could be something......

Jamal Crawford is horrible

[LittleCriminal]

Don't like posting Kobe stuff but Bleacher Report has DD in Spurs gear in this graphic

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1033021400355876869

Bleacher Report should be asking: Where the mamba mentality was those 5 straight/gay years kobe didnt make the playoffs then retired.

[BatManu20]

Elvis hasn't entered the building.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlydNvpU4AA5K78.jpg

[BatManu20]

DDR really does always look depressed tho.. smh

[Chinook]

Dunno why he posted that pic.

[NASpurs]

Looks more serious than anything else to me.

[NASpurs]

And DM posted this yesterday. There's probably a serious/work mentality going on in the gym.

https://i.imgur.com/3uIdNk5.jpg

[Dejounte]

Elvis hasn't entered the building.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DlydNvpU4AA5K78.jpg

Who is he seated next to in the locker room?

[bklynspursfan]

And DM posted this yesterday. There's probably a serious/work mentality going on in the gym.

https://i.imgur.com/3uIdNk5.jpg

Yep.. I like it

[Seventyniner]

And DM posted this yesterday. There's probably a serious/work mentality going on in the gym.

https://i.imgur.com/3uIdNk5.jpg

Remember Poeltl's comments about DD having a huge chip on his shoulder. Some models having the Spurs miss the playoffs only adds fuel to the fire. This team might lack some cohesion and be an awkward fit skills-wise, but I don't think they will be hurting for motivation.

[phxspurfan]

Anyone already got a DeFrozen jersey? How does it look if so? Thinking of copping one before opening night.

[spurraider21]

dejounte is awesome tbh... i hope he becomes a good player. very easy to root for

[NASpurs]

BnFJeV-jNdA

[Leetonidas]

Anyone already got a DeFrozen jersey? How does it look if so? Thinking of copping one before opening night.

I wanted to get one but they only have the shitty ones up on the nba store. I only like the stitched jerseys and unless you wanna pay 40 extra for the custom one, gotta wait I guess. I did snatch a TP one on sale for 65 since I didn't have one.

Fucking sucks I have like 5 different leonard jerseys idk wtf to do with :lol

[hooperflash]

I wanted to get one but they only have the shitty ones up on the nba store. I only like the stitched jerseys and unless you wanna pay 40 extra for the custom one, gotta wait I guess. I did snatch a TP one on sale for 65 since I didn't have one.

Fucking sucks I have like 5 different leonard jerseys idk wtf to do with :lol
I waited years for the Nike sponsorship and finally bought two player dri-fit Leonard shirt jerseys. It's weird.

[Leetonidas]

I waited years for the Nike sponsorship and finally bought two player dri-fit Leonard shirt jerseys. It's weird.

Honestly I dont like the Nike jerseys at all. Adidas was much better quality imo

[hooperflash]

Honestly I dont like the Nike jerseys at all. Adidas was much better quality imo

Do you have the authentic on-court jerseys?

[bklynspursfan]

BnFJeV-jNdA

:tu I like it

[Chillen]

Fucking sucks I have like 5 different leonard jerseys idk wtf to do with :lol

Keep them might come in handy if you ever run out of toilet paper. just kidding.

I have a Ginobili, Duncan, Parker jersey never did get a Leonard one and certainly don't want one anymore. Might get an Aldridge and DeRozan one.

[hombre]

Seeing the posts of DeMar reporting early, laughing and having fun is reassuring. We got the better end of the deal. I can root for DeMar.

If Poeltl can be a younger Tiago? We good.

[Chillen]

Seeing the posts of DeMar reporting early, laughing and having fun is reassuring. We got the better end of the deal. I can root for DeMar.

If Poeltl can be a younger Tiago? We good.

If Kawhi bolts to LA after this season and DeMar has a healthy strong NBA season for Spurs, yes. The trade will ultimately become a salary dump for Toronto and they knew that when they traded for Leonard. It don't matter either way Spurs had to clean up the milk the baby spilled in the kitchen and they got a pretty solid player in DeMar and potential with Poeltl.

[YGWHI]

Seeing the posts of DeMar reporting early, laughing and having fun is reassuring. We got the better end of the deal. I can root for DeMar.

If Poeltl can be a younger Tiago? We good.

Me, too. DeMar is a so likeable guy. Like Rudy Gay said, DeMar will love to play for the Spurs and the fans will love him...I guess this new season will be the best season of his career.

[John B]

Me, too. DeMar is a so likeable guy. Like Rudy Gay said, DeMar will love to play for the Spurs and the fans will love him...I guess this new season will be the best season of his career.
Agree. I think the nba hasn’t seen the best of DeMar yet. His defense will definitely be better. I see a lot of Kobe in him as a fierce competitor trying to improve even more. I really hope he makes all-NBA.

[YGWHI]

Agree. I think the nba hasn’t seen the best of DeMar yet. His defense will definitely be better. I see a lot of Kobe in him as a fierce competitor trying to improve even more. I really hope he makes all-NBA.
:tu

[ceperez]

Agree. I think the nba hasn’t seen the best of DeMar yet. His defense will definitely be better. I see a lot of Kobe in him as a fierce competitor trying to improve even more. I really hope he makes all-NBA.

DeMar is naturally a better offensive player than Kawhi. In the Spurs system, he's going to get better.

[SpursDynasty85]

DeMar is naturally a better offensive player than Kawhi. In the Spurs system, he's going to get better.

Sorry. Let's not get ahead of ourselves. Kawhi is much better offensively as well.

[daslicer]

If Kawhi bolts to LA after this season and DeMar has a healthy strong NBA season for Spurs, yes. The trade will ultimately become a salary dump for Toronto and they knew that when they traded for Leonard. It don't matter either way Spurs had to clean up the milk the baby spilled in the kitchen and they got a pretty solid player in DeMar and potential with Poeltl.

Toronto will regret the salary dump when they are facing years of mediocrity.

[Chillen]

Toronto will regret the salary dump when they are facing years of mediocrity.

Yeah they are so hoping Kawhi pulls a Paul George and stays with them instead of signing with one of the LA teams.

[TD 21]

DeMar is naturally a better offensive player than Kawhi. In the Spurs system, he's going to get better.


:lmao


Toronto will regret the salary dump when they are facing years of mediocrity.

No, they won't. They knew beforehand that it was a probability, but it's still more than worth it. All that team was missing from having a real shot at being a Curry or Durant injury away from a chance at a championship was a superstar in DeRozan's place and 3 and D wings. The Spurs gave them both at a discount price.

It's almost impossible to get to that position in this league. If you're lucky, that's the type of opportunity that comes around once in a front office executive's career. If you don't take it out of fear of years of mediocrity to follow, you might as well be in another business.

[SpursDynasty85]

No, they won't. They knew beforehand that it was a probability, but it's still more than worth it. All that team was missing from having a real shot at being a Curry or Durant injury away from a chance at a championship was a superstar in DeRozan's place and 3 and D wings. The Spurs gave them both at a discount price.

It's almost impossible to get to that position in this league. If you're lucky, that's the type of opportunity that comes around once in a front office executive's career. If you don't take it out of fear of years of mediocrity to follow, you might as well be in another business.

It is still a risk no matter how you look at it for Toronto. Toronto has never had a major free agent acquisition nor have they ever had one of their star prospects sign a longterm contract (besides Derozan). They felt they made the right decision but if in 4-5 years (assuming Kawhi leaves and the other big contracts get dumped) and they are still terrible, Drake no longer shows up, fans start to leave, it could be said "they should've just kept Derozan". But a lot of years before then so they are trusting their GM big time to make a possible rebuild work or make Kawhi sign. One thing is for sure.

[exstatic]

Toronto will regret the salary dump when they are facing years of mediocrity.

The point was to position themselves to tank if he doesn't re-sign. Mediocrity is NBA death. You tank, then you come out the other side.

[daslicer]

:lmao



No, they won't. They knew beforehand that it was a probability, but it's still more than worth it. All that team was missing from having a real shot at being a Curry or Durant injury away from a chance at a championship was a superstar in DeRozan's place and 3 and D wings. The Spurs gave them both for a discount price. If you're lucky, that's the type of opportunity that comes around once in a front office executive's career.

It's almost impossible to get to that position in this league. If you don't trade for it out of fear of years of mediocrity to follow, you might as well be in another business.

It won't be worth it unless they win a title which is highly unlikely unless the Warriors team plane crashes along with the Rockets,Celtics, and the Sixers. Like I said before they are going to regret it once they don't win a title and are stuck in years of mediocrity after Kawhi bolts. It's easy for them to say they are prepared for it but I don't buy into that bs. Living in Charlotte I have seen firsthand what being mediocre for years does to the morale of a franchise along with the fan base.

[exstatic]

It is still a risk no matter how you look at it for Toronto. Toronto has never had a major free agent acquisition nor have they ever had one of their star prospects sign a longterm contract. They felt they made the right decision but if in 4-5 years (assuming Kawhi leaves and the other big contracts get dumped) and they are still terrible, Drake no longer shows up, fans start to leave, it could be said "they should've just kept Derozan". But a lot of years before then so they are trusting their GM big time to make a possible rebuild work or make Kawhi sign.

Uh, DeRozan did.

[daslicer]

The point was to position themselves to tank if he doesn't re-sign. Mediocrity is NBA death. You tank, then you come out the other side.

Tanking is no guarantee for success. Trust me of I have seen it first hand with my home team the Hornets. They have tanked for years and still haven't been able to get a superstar player or become even a decent playoff team.

[exstatic]

Tanking is no guarantee for success. Trust me of I have seen it first hand with my home team the Hornets. They have tanked for years and still haven't been able to get a superstar player or become even a decent playoff team.

They haven't tanked yet. They're bad to mediocre, but they have yet to go full tank. They keep doing trades trying to stay afloat. Tanking is stripping any and all assets, and renting out your cap room for draft choices for a period of years until those draft choices plus your own high ones lift you back into the playoffs.

[SpursDynasty85]

Uh, DeRozan did.

Yea edited my comment. But that does not help your argument. The fact that the only star player that did resign is the one the franchise traded for a rebuild. Unless the rebuild works well, it is something to look back on and reflect. It's a risk. PERIOD but one that they thought they had to make.

[DJR210]

And DM posted this yesterday. There's probably a serious/work mentality going on in the gym.

https://i.imgur.com/3uIdNk5.jpg

Was this before or after letting some worthless whore punk him and make him look retarded on YouTube?

[daslicer]

They haven't tanked yet. They're bad to mediocre, but they have yet to go full tank. They keep doing trades trying to stay afloat. Tanking is stripping any and all assets, and renting out your cap room for draft choices for a period of years until those draft choices plus your own high ones lift you back into the playoffs.

They tanked hardcore get Anthony Davis several years ago and it didn't work out. They ended up with Kidd-Gilchrist. I have yet to see a team outside of the Sixers succeed with extreme tanking and even that took some luck.

[TD 21]

It is still a risk no matter how you look at it for Toronto. Toronto has never had a major free agent acquisition nor have they ever had one of their star prospects sign a longterm contract (besides Derozan). They felt they made the right decision but if in 4-5 years (assuming Kawhi leaves and the other big contracts get dumped) and they are still terrible, Drake no longer shows up, fans start to leave, it could be said "they should've just kept Derozan". But a lot of years before then so they are trusting their GM big time to make a possible rebuild work or make Kawhi sign. One thing is for sure.

I didn't say it wasn't a risk; it inarguably is. But it's so difficult to even get within' one thing happening of conceivably having a chance at a championship in this league, that the opportunity should take precedent.

If the Raptors, like most of the league, can't attract a superstar and have no means to get one outside of fluking out in the draft (which becomes more difficult when you're picking where they mostly have recently), then isn't that all the more reason why this made sense for them?

This is a superstar driven league. Without one, you don't have the starting point of a path to championship contention.



It won't be worth it unless they win a title which is highly unlikely unless the Warriors team plane crashes along with the Rockets,Celtics, and the Sixers. Like I said before they are going to regret it once they don't win a title and are stuck in years of mediocrity after Kawhi bolts. It's easy for them to say they are prepared for it but I don't buy into that bs. Living in Charlotte I have seen firsthand what being mediocre for years does to the morale of a franchise along with the fan base.

It will be because for the first time in their franchise history, they have a chance to win a championship (again, with the Curry/Durant injury caveat).

Years of mediocrity was likely coming relatively soon anyway. Lowry is an aging, small guard. And they would have had a difficult decision to make in 2-3 years with DeRozan. Sign an aging, flawed star, who's game doesn't project to age well, to an albatross or let the most beloved player in franchise history walk and have a PR nightmare.

This got them out of that. Sure, it won't be easy to build back to what they had, but it's damn near impossible to build to what they have now.

[exstatic]

They tanked hardcore get Anthony Davis several years ago and it didn't work out. They ended up with Kidd-Gilchrist. I have yet to see a team outside of the Sixers succeed with extreme tanking and even that took some luck.

Seattle/OKC turned out pretty well. They were bad enough to get KD, Westchuck&Ibaka, and Harden in consecutive drafts.

[SpursDynasty85]

Seattle/OKC turned out pretty well. They were bad enough to get KD, Westchuck&Ibaka, and Harden in consecutive drafts.

But they MOVED cities! ouch for the Seattle fans no?

[exstatic]

But they MOVED cities! ouch for the Seattle fans no?

Doesn't change the fact that they tanked probably better than PHI did. The fact that their owner threw that magnificent accomplishment away with both hands by refusing to pay the tax, at the time, doesn't tarnish the success of drafting 3 NBA MVPs in consecutive years.

[SpursDynasty85]

Doesn't change the fact that they tanked probably better than PHI did. The fact that their owner threw that magnificent accomplishment away with both hands by refusing to pay the tax, at the time, doesn't tarnish the success of drafting 3 NBA MVPs in consecutive years.


For sure. Sam Presti drafted some good guys. Too bad he chose Westbrook and Ibaka over Harden. Probably screwed them out of a championship.

[daslicer]

Seattle/OKC turned out pretty well. They were bad enough to get KD, Westchuck&Ibaka, and Harden in consecutive drafts.

The OKC model of drafting tends not to be the norm for the majority of franchises that tank. Charlotte/Orlando to me is more the likely scenario you get from tanking.

[exstatic]

For sure. Sam Presti drafted some good guys. Too bad he chose Westbrook and Ibaka over Harden. Probably screwed them out of a championship.

Too bad their owner cheaped out and made any choice necessary. I can see Presti's logic, though, because Harden and Westbrook are close to being redundant. Presti kept a PG, a SF, and a PF. People forget how feared a shot blocker Ibaka was. Before he aged out, he was a shotblocker, a rebounder, and had a 3 point shot. I think if Presti had a crystal ball, he probably would have offloaded Ibaka, or maybe dumped Perkins earlier.

[SpursDynasty85]

Too bad their owner cheaped out and made any choice necessary. I can see Presti's logic, though, because Harden and Westbrook are close to being redundant. Presti kept a PG, a SF, and a PF. People forget how feared a shot blocker Ibaka was. Before he aged out, he was a shotblocker, a rebounder, and had a 3 point shot. I think if Presti had a crystal ball, he probably would have offloaded Ibaka, or maybe dumped Perkins earlier.

Yea. But who would've thought Westbrook could be such a selfish pg. He is even being lauded for it. Boggles my mind. Hindsight is 20/20 Harden is a much better pg and sg.

I've always though Westbrook would be a better sg because his on ball decision making is so bad.

Ibaka turned into sort of a bust but was a good compliment if Westbrook had actually turned into a higher IQ ball player.

Ultimately, KD is still a chump. Haha.

[sasaint]

It will be because for the first time in their franchise history, they have a chance to win a championship (again, with the Curry/Durant injury caveat).

Years of mediocrity was likely coming relatively soon anyway. Lowry is an aging, small guard. And they would have had a difficult decision to make in 2-3 years with DeRozan. Sign an aging, flawed star, who's game doesn't project to age well, to an albatross or let the most beloved player in franchise history walk and have a PR nightmare.

This got them out of that. Sure, it won't be easy to build back to what they had, but it's damn near impossible to build to what they have now.

I don't know what odds the Raps have in Vegas, but I give them a fair chance of winning a title this season. The Spurs lost Danny Green from their playoff roster and gained DeRozan and Poetl in the trade. That rates a :tu from the Spurs' perspective. But from the Raps' perspective they lost DeMar (who was not great in the playoffs) and Poetl and gained Danny and Number 2. That's a big :tu from their perspective. They have a legit shot if Number 2 is healthy and returns to form. And Danny may show improvement in Toronto, also. After all he wasn't great last season; moreover, next season is a contract year...

[hooperflash]

Yo DeMar, help bring in AD :eyebrows


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWUJQnD0PUg

[Ice009]

Darn, AD, if he's friends with Demar and Demar can somehow get him over here, he'll be a legend to me forever no matter whatever he does on the court for the Spurs. AD is the the kind of people I like to see Demar train and hang out with. If I had a choice of who to have traded Kawhi for in the entire NBA, I would have picked Anthony Davis over everyone else in the NBA.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/SLAMonline/status/1037870559651135488

[007nites]

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[alpha_HaZE]

Yea. But who would've thought Westbrook could be such a selfish pg. He is even being lauded for it. Boggles my mind. Hindsight is 20/20 Harden is a much better pg and sg.

I've always though Westbrook would be a better sg because his on ball decision making is so bad.

Ibaka turned into sort of a bust but was a good compliment if Westbrook had actually turned into a higher IQ ball player.

Ultimately, KD is still a chump. Haha.

I also believed that Russ was selfish, but someone on twitter posted cumulative stats for the last 4 years or so, regarding who makes his teamates better scorers. Of course, curry was number one, but I believe Russ was top 3! Kawhi was second to last by the way.

[Ice009]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQyr0hS0bW0

[Leetonidas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQyr0hS0bW0

Nice to see him in the gym working on his game and trying to improve his handles :tu Murray needs to get in the gym with the trainer in this video

[Ice009]

Yeah, it looks like Demar has really improved his handles the past few years working with this guy. It's interesting that Seth Curry is also working with him. I would have thought Seth would have been using whoever his brother Steph uses to work on his handles? Either way, this guy must be pretty good as he's gotten really good results with the guys shown on this video.

[John B]

I like that Mamba mentality. He’s on a mission. I can’t wait. GSG!

[tbdog]

One thing I learnt from that training video is that rap/r&b music is dreadful.

[Coach X]

His dribbling and handling were good enough. I wish he had put all that work on improving 3pt shooting, defense, p&r game. As a SG he needs that. Do you want to improve your overall game further than that? Add passing, posting up. But working again in the areas where you already are good at is a waste of time.

I hope this clip is showing only a part of DeMar's work during this summer. For sure he's motivated and he has worked hard but getting better is not only about will and determination.

[Atl Spur]

One thing I learnt from that training video is that rap/r&b music is dreadful.

Great.......more for me and the rest of humanity that appreciates those genres of music.

[tbdog]

Great.......more for me and the rest of humanity that appreciates those genres of music.

'Handle all life black like a batman. Dribble too much, huh, what is that man.' That isn't even trying.

[SpursDynasty85]

His dribbling and handling were good enough. I wish he had put all that work on improving 3pt shooting, defense, p&r game. As a SG he needs that. Do you want to improve your overall game further than that? Add passing, posting up. But working again in the areas where you already are good at is a waste of time.

I hope this clip is showing only a part of DeMar's work during this summer. For sure he's motivated and he has worked hard but getting better is not only about will and determination.

From what I can gather the way he shoots and the way he prefers to shoot he will never have an elite or NBA average 3 pt shot. He is very much relies on feel and his feet being planted. He does not get a lot of leg lift on his shot either. He also loves to have that ball on his whole hand while having a relatively slow wind up and release. Unless he as well as his trainers and team are willing to sacrifice his mid range game and start his shooting form from scratch I doubt he becomes more than an average NBA shooter. If he was going to do that it would have made sense to do it in his first 2 or 3 years in the NBA not right now but hopefully Chip can get more leg lift in his jump shot with a high release that way he is less reliant on the feeling in his hands than in an actual quick release involving his whole body. This may not make sense to someone else but it does to me. I grew up loving and playing a lot of basketball but always played in a small driveway with no room for a 3 pt shot. My midrange game was very consistent and based more off a set shot and feel of the ball on my hands like Derozan that trying to make 3's made no sense to me no matter how hard I tried. As long as he can make the corner 3 (I think he can) I think he would best help the spurs by being a better distributor (playmaker) than using all his efforts on his 3 pt shot.

[KDKSpurs24]

'Handle all life black like a batman. Dribble too much, huh, what is that man.' That isn't even trying.
You worded the lyrics very wrong but the things you have to realize is that this song is to promote the ‘Ankle Bully’ guy. It’s a song about his HandleLife sessions business. I didn’t know anything about it before this so I’m not defending it like I know it. Just seems like anyone should be able to pick that up. Anyways, the point I want to make is that songs used to promote businesses usually are never that good (and kind of corny in order to fit the business) no matter what the genre and shouldn’t usually be taken too seriously. And yes I realize there are a lot of bad songs in that genre just like any genre.

[exstatic]

From what I can gather the way he shoots and the way he prefers to shoot he will never have an elite or NBA average 3 pt shot. He is very much relies on feel and his feet being planted. He does not get a lot of leg lift on his shot either. He also loves to have that ball on his whole hand while having a relatively slow wind up and release. Unless he as well as his trainers and team are willing to sacrifice his mid range game and start his shooting form from scratch I doubt he becomes more than an average NBA shooter. If he was going to do that it would have made sense to do it in his first 2 or 3 years in the NBA not right now but hopefully Chip can get more leg lift in his jump shot with a high release that way he is less reliant on the feeling in his hands than in an actual quick release involving his whole body. This may not make sense to someone else but it does to me. I grew up loving and playing a lot of basketball but always played in a small driveway with no room for a 3 pt shot. My midrange game was very consistent and based more off a set shot and feel of the ball on my hands like Derozan that trying to make 3's made no sense to me no matter how hard I tried. As long as he can make the corner 3 (I think he can) I think he would best help the spurs by being a better distributor (playmaker) than using all his efforts on his 3 pt shot.

Brent Barry had almost ZERO leg lift on his shot. It was a close to a set shot as anyone I've watched in the NBA since 1981. He was a dead eye shooter. Your base and plant are important. You can also get upward momentum like Barry did by bending your knees, sort of jumping without actually leaving the ground. If you want a quick release, it's also important not to bring the ball down too far, not to shoot from the hip.

[SpursDynasty85]

Brent Barry had almost ZERO leg lift on his shot. It was a close to a set shot as anyone I've watched in the NBA since 1981. He was a dead eye shooter. Your base and plant are important. You can also get upward momentum like Barry did by bending your knees, sort of jumping without actually leaving the ground. If you want a quick release, it's also important not to bring the ball down too far, not to shoot from the hip.
All valid points but like I said it is very hard to explain other than Derozan must've grown up thinking "get to the rim at all costs" and then he started developing a mid range. Getting him a good feel for the even longer 3 pt arc in the NBA and long arms, he is who is he at this point unless they change his stroke. He needs more angle and quicker release for sure.

[exstatic]

All valid points but like I said it is very hard to explain other than Derozan must've grown up thinking "get to the rim at all costs" and then he started developing a mid range. Getting him a good feel for the even longer 3 pt arc in the NBA and long arms, he is who is he at this point unless they change his stroke. He needs more angle and quicker release for sure.

DD's shot isn't as bad as Kawhi's was. It really just needs tweaking, maybe just start the motion higher, chest or shoulder level. I guess it would depend on how motivated he is to improve. I also don't think that improving your 3 pointer sends your midrange game into the dumper.

[SpursDynasty85]

DD's shot isn't as bad as Kawhi's was. It really just needs tweaking, maybe just start the motion higher, chest or shoulder level. I guess it would depend on how motivated he is to improve. I also don't think that improving your 3 pointer sends your midrange game into the dumper.

Weird. I never thought Kawhi's jumper was bad but the way he used to take it back made his release low and slow. I think his motion was inefficient but ultimately it only needed a little tweaking and he turned into a deadly shooter. All this while he was relatively young though. At 29 DD it's probably unlikely he will be a great 3 or shooter. Just thinking our expectations and for the Spurs it's better we hope he keeps becoming a better distributor like Harden, Manu, Lebron type while incrementally working on his 3 (mainly corner 3).

DJ looks like he worked like crazy on his spot up 3 which would compliment DD well for now.

[bklynspursfan]

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[hooperflash]

One thing I learnt from that training video is that rap/r&b music is dreadful.
The music in the video is actually the basketball trainer’s own tracks, he dabbles in music as well.

[Crazymaddopeyo]

Demar Says He'll score 50 on the Raps (https://twitter.com/william_lou/status/1042043884753350663)

[bklynspursfan]

BoIoH9IHs8y

[Kyle_Kuzma]

BoIoH9IHs8y
black and white. dude is definitely depressed:lol

[SAGirl]

black and white. dude is definitely depressed:lol
Definitely. It's as if it was the introduction/trailer of a dramatic or tragic movie..

[Kyle_Kuzma]

Definitely. It's as if it was the introduction/trailer of a dramatic or tragic movie..
should be a sequel to manchester by the sea :lol

[bklynspursfan]

1048352958591782912
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[duncan2k5]

Demar Says He'll score 50 on the Raps (https://twitter.com/william_lou/status/1042043884753350663)

Im sorry but kawhi is still kawhi, and will be equally motivated

[gospursgojas]

Im sorry but kawhi is still kawhi, and will be equally motivated

Kawhi will be back in NY rehabbing a fake injury by then.

[james evans]

I know it's just preseason, but I'm not liking what I'm seeing with Derozan. I said his productivity will decrease under popovich, but I hope I'm wrong. I know this much if he is shitty the next 2 seasons, he's definitely getting a max deal from us. It's the way we do thing. Ship out or low ball the good players, and keep the trash ass garbage as long as they kiss Popovich's ass

[Mr. Body]

I know it's just preseason, but I'm not liking what I'm seeing with Derozan. I said his productivity will decrease under popovich, but I hope I'm wrong. I know this much if he is shitty the next 2 seasons, he's definitely getting a max deal from us. It's the way we do thing. Ship out or low ball the good players, and keep the trash ass garbage as long as they kiss Popovich's ass

Good Christ.

[exstatic]

Good Christ.

If you’re not blocking him, you’re doing it wrong. He’s a complete moron.

[Seventyniner]

If you’re not blocking him, you’re doing it wrong. He’s a complete moron.

I just wish the ignore feature would also block quotes by ignored posters too. It would be like they didn't exist, a blessed prospect.

[Chinook]

I just wish the ignore feature would also block quotes by ignored posters too. It would be like they didn't exist, a blessed prospect.

Yeah. Blocked posts, the quotes don't show up on other folks' posts, and you don't get any notifications if they quote or tag you. It's pretty much not worth it to ignore anyone right now.

[YGWHI]

Good Christ.


If you're not blockin him, you're doing it wrong.

Who knows but some things make sense...

"I said his productivity will decrease under popovich, but I hope I'm wrong."

Unlike him, I believe DD will have the best season of his career. On other hand I agree with him about DD's production/ppg because it's fair to think he won't have the ball in his hands that much like in Toronto.

"Ship out or low ball the good players, and keep the trash ass garbage as long as they kiss Popovich's ass"

Well, it's clear they have given ton of money to guys with poor performances in last three seasons (Gasol/Mills), while they refused to pay younger guys who could have elevated their games and improved the team just because Pop didn't like their off-court comments/demeanour. (Dedmon/Simmons)

[Kobe'sAchilles]

Well, it's clear they have given ton of money to guys with poor performances in last three seasons (Gasol/Mills), while they refused to pay younger guys who could have elevated their games and improved the team just because Pop didn't like their off-court comments/demeanour. (Dedmon/Simmons)

Simmons and Dedmon are trash. I'm shocked to find a person who still thinks otherwise. True Mills and Gasoft are also trash, but choosing them over the former was not a mistake.

[Seventyniner]

Yeah. Blocked posts, the quotes don't show up on other folks' posts, and you don't get any notifications if they quote or tag you. It's pretty much not worth it to ignore anyone right now.

I still do it though. It's pretty funny to click on a thread and see nothing but ignored posts.

[YGWHI]

Simmons and Dedmon are trash. I'm shocked to find a person who still thinks otherwise. True Mills and Gasoft are also trash, but choosing them over the former was not a mistake.

PATFO signed Gasol and...Joffrey Lauvergne over Dedmon. Sure, he broke his ankle this preseason but he played better than those two guys last regular season.

It's funny how some people act like the Spurs wouldn't need a defensive big to help LMA in the paint.

[ceperez]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnZpyf0kVSg

[exstatic]

PATFO signed Gasol and...Joffrey Lauvergne over Dedmon. Sure, he broke his ankle this preseason but he played better than those two guys last regular season.

It's funny how some people act like the Spurs wouldn't need a defensive big to help LMA in the paint.

Dedmon and Simmons were both fliers. Each of them was fairly old when the Spurs signed them, Simmons 26 and Dedmon 27.

The reality is that the Spurs never have more talent than the top teams. They do what they do with a system, and a tight, cohesive locker room. Dedmon 'liked' a tweet saying he should start over Gasol (criticism of your coach's decision making), and allegedly cussed at Pop when pulled from a game. I don't recall hearing anything detrimental about Simmons, but he wanted to get paid, and the Spurs didn't see the level of player that warranted such a contract. He's never been even a league average player by PER, and advanced stats, which the Spurs place a lot of stock in, don't love him. The Spurs still ALLOWED him to get paid by releasing him from his qualifying offer, something they do from time to time to accommodate players who want out, and almost no other teams do. By rights, and the CBA, they could have kept him for another year, but again, they don't want locker room problems.

[Kobe'sAchilles]

PATFO signed Gasol and...Joffrey Lauvergne over Dedmon. Sure, he broke his ankle this preseason but he played better than those two guys last regular season.

It's funny how some people act like the Spurs wouldn't need a defensive big to help LMA in the paint.

I agree that we do need a defensive big and I'm not making excuses for gasoft and his horrible play. But we ended up with a better defensive big this year than Dedmon and I can't imagine him taking a demotion well since he didn't take it well when he wasn't even established. Simmons I just never cared about, we have a bunch of guards and signing him would've made our rotation even more of a mess.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DppqCa6W4AEiKxC.jpg:large

[K...]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DppqCa6W4AEiKxC.jpg:large

I don't know why it's so hard to draw DeRozan but I've repeatedly seen him drawn in ways that don't capture his personality and hairstyle. DeRozan hasa unique look, that should be captured

[Dverde]

Two consecutive free throws to end game
https://i.imgflip.com/dqygb.jpg

[Chomag]

When was the last time we have seen a Spur sink both free-throws in the clutch!? Way to go DD!

[ace3g]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8m-jdqJ7YU

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1052771089481261058

[SAGirl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M8m-jdqJ7YU

https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1052771089481261058
great game from him.
:clap

[Namundy]

I fucking love this guy after one regular season game. I am still incredibly skeptical if he can perform in the playoffs when physicality could really hurt him.

[phxspurfan]

This should be named something more appropriate for our new Best Player. Like Crips Compton Block of DeMar DeRozan, or Crips House of Protection of DeMar DeRozan.

[Jsmoothexpress]

This should be named something more appropriate for our new Best Player. Like Crips Compton Block of DeMar DeRozan, or Crips House of Protection of DeMar DeRozan.

[Jsmoothexpress]

This should be named something more appropriate for our new Best Player. Like Crips Compton Block of DeMar DeRozan, or Crips House of Protection of DeMar DeRozan.

[timvp]

This should be named something more appropriate for our new Best Player. Like Crips Compton Block of DeMar DeRozan, or Crips House of Protection of DeMar DeRozan.

:tu

DeMar reps dat Corner Poccet Hood, tbh.

[Dverde]

Seems a bit long

[Seventyniner]

Seems a bit long

Yeah, "Corner Poccet of DeMar DeRozan" flows better, unless it leaves too much out.

[NASpurs]

:lol I'm holding back of saying something fucked up even by Spurstalk standards.

Fine I'll say it:

Was the "Corner of Where-Richard-Jefferson's-Dad-was-killed Crips" too wordy?

Yeah that was painful. Sorry.

[cool cat]

:lol I'm holding back of saying something fucked up even by Spurstalk standards.

Fine I'll say it:

Was the "Corner of Where-Richard-Jefferson's-Dad-was-killed Crips" too wordy?

Yeah that was painful. Sorry.
Wasn’t Kawhi dad killed in Compton too?

[FkLA]

What was frozen ice hotel in reference to anyway? I never got that.

[NASpurs]

Wasn’t Kawhi dad killed in Compton too?

Two of the most hated Spurs have that in common. Smh

[daslicer]

Surprisingly he has been exciting to watch so far. He has played great in these last 2 games. I hope he can maintain it for the whole entire year.

[bklynspursfan]

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[RC_Drunkford]

3rd game and already a career high in assists. Looks like a very good start

[SpurPadre]

Can anybody tell me why he doesn't dunk anymore? Did he lose some athleticism? Or is he fully aware that Pop hates dunks?

[Namundy]

Can anybody tell me why he doesn't dunk anymore? Did he lose some athleticism? Or is he fully aware that Pop hates dunks?

I don't think he is actually that big of a dunker. I thought the same about him. He can rip off some nasty jams but seems to be more of the crafty/finesse type when finishing.

[Ice009]

I think Timvp said he went back and watched every Raptors game from last season and DeMar didn't dunk much. Apparently he's not as athletic as we thought. He relies more on footwork and skill to score his points rather than on athleticism. i think someone said one of the Spurs players (can't remember who, for some reason I'm thinking Kyle Anderson) had more dunks than him last season. Not sure how much DeMar dunked when he was younger, though?

[SpurPadre]

I don't think he is actually that big of a dunker. I thought the same about him. He can rip off some nasty jams but seems to be more of the crafty/finesse type when finishing.

I'm not so sure he's more athletic than Kawhi tbh.

[SpurPadre]

I think Timvp said he went back and watched every Raptors game from last season and DeMar didn't dunk much. Apparently he's not as athletic as we though. He relies more on footwork and skill to score his points rather than on athleticism. i think someone said one of the Spurs players (can't remember who, for some reason I'm thinking Kyle Anderson) had more dunks than him last season. Not sure how much DeMar dunked when he was younger, though?

According to NBAdraftnet, his athleticism rated as a 10 coming out of college: http://www.nbadraft.net/players/demar-derozan

[Mirrornick]

DeRozan always ends up in top 10 dunks of the year since his rookie season. Why he doesn't dunk often as you would expect? That's just his style of play. He is more crafty and relies on foot work and post game. Believe me though, you will see DeRozan posterize someone this year. Y'all remember his dunk on Rudy Gobert?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anZ3V-DUJcs

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Can anybody tell me why he doesn't dunk anymore? Did he lose some athleticism? Or is he fully aware that Pop hates dunks?

I think I read that he only had like 10 or 12 dunks all of last season. Seems like he's a selective dunker.

[stu scotts eye]

Anyone who says DeRozan isnt athletic or cant dunk is crazy. Does he dunk in game like he used to? No. Prob to conserve energy as he aged, he definitely has muscled up over the yrs to.

Timvp cites more recent yrs. But dude can dunk. Yall dont remember these days? Wasnt even that long ago...

https://youtu.be/9AjnjbQX6k0

[exstatic]

Anyone who says DeRozan isnt athletic or cant dunk is crazy. Does he dunk in game like he used to? No. Prob to conserve energy as he aged, he definitely has muscled up over the yrs to.

Timvp cites more recent yrs. But dude can dunk. Yall dont remember these days? Wasnt even that long ago...

https://youtu.be/9AjnjbQX6k0

I think part of it may be adjusting his game to age well, but part of it could just be pride. When he came out of USC, his game wasn’t very well rounded. He WAS known as a high flyer and dunker. That’s a label that can get stuck to you forever. Vince Carter really didn’t shed it until he was 35 or so. DeMar worked very hard on his handle and overall game, and maybe didn’t want to be defined that way. Maybe if you’re not dunking much at all, it’s easier for people to recognize your overall game and not be defined as just a dunker or athlete.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/Eastbay/status/1054885340136259585

http://blog.eastbay.com/athletes/demar-derozan-man-on-a-mission/

[phxspurfan]

Damn, the last time I heard of Eastbay they had a print catalog for sneakers

[phxspurfan]

And yes, DeRozan used to be a dunk champ high flyer. Best for his career that he learned to pivot and post like harden. Murray needs to learn the same game now that he got hurt. It will extend his career, too.

[bklynspursfan]

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[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1056374977140834304

[99 Problems]

Almost going at 61% today. I’m giving him the green light to continue that.

[Seventyniner]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1056374977140834304

Not just that, he has two different kinds: PTS/REB and PTS/AST.

[SpurPadre]

Not just that, he has two different kinds: PTS/REB and PTS/AST.

He's getting a triple double eventually this season.

[skin27]

Hope he plays like that every night, not only against lakers..

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1056385519339356162

[JeffDuncan]

DDR is doing exactly what he needs to do for the team. There's hope.

[hater]

https://twitter.com/waldersports/status/1056379006411522049?s=21

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqkdXcfVYAA-CJ2.jpg:large

[DAF86]

https://twitter.com/waldersports/status/1056379006411522049?s=21

Spurs own Lebron. This is something we know.

[Immortal Spur]

1056397850114961408\

EDIT! is there an easy way to embed tweets... good grief

[Dman2]

I watched Derozan over the years and he was never really a dunker. When he came into the league he was definitely above average in terms of athleticism and on occasion he has the ability to throw down a big dunk but he isn't that explosive and prefers to rely on finesse and footwork. What Derozan has been great over the last 2-3 years is using crafty footwork posting up and getting to get to the basket. He also among the best in the league in using his body to absorb contact and draw fouls. This is why has been among the league leaders in free throw attempts over the years.

[weeks]

what's not to love about DD? he seems like a great teammate, motivates guys, finds people, smooth as fuck on offense..he draws fouls and collapses the defense with his penetration.

i'll admit i never paid much attention to DD when he was in toronto but i'm really impressed with him so far.

[daslicer]

what's not to love about DD? he seems like a great teammate, motivates guys, finds people, smooth as fuck on offense..he draws fouls and collapses the defense with his penetration.

i'll admit i never paid much attention to DD when he was in toronto but i'm really impressed with him so far.

The only knock on him is that he chokes during the playoffs but since the Spurs are not a contender right now it's a non issue.

[hater]

The only knock on him is that he chokes during the playoffs but since the Spurs are not a contender right now it's a non issue.

:tu mon niga

Thats why this season will be fun. If we somehow make it to playoffs it would be a really good seria

[RC_Drunkford]

Am I the only one who thought he played solid on defense also? I think his main flaw on D in Toronto was being out of position too often, something that Pop can easily fix

[SpursDynasty85]

Am I the only one who thought he played solid on defense also? I think his main flaw on D in Toronto was being out of position too often, something that Pop can easily fix

Nope. I thought he did excellent on defense. I haven't seen him play much yet but this game he looked like a different player on defense. Hopefully this trend continues. Last night's wing was very fun

[John B]

I already like him a lot but adding a sure 3 points shooting would propel him to mvp tier and should open his game more.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/sengfoo88/status/1056396926004776960

[Ice009]

https://twitter.com/AirlessJordan/status/1056385519339356162

Is this in a player's first 5 games with the Spurs, or is it for the first 5 games of the season?


I already like him a lot but adding a sure 3 points shooting would propel him to mvp tier and should open his game more.

Unfortunately, I think his shooting form needs to be changed for him to be a better/consistent 3 pointer shooter. Now that I've seen him play a few games, I think his form is the main reason he's not a consistent 3 point shooter. I could be wrong, but I don't think he can be one with that form. It's also not a great form if you're trying to shoot deep threes (Not much range with it, he's likely to be way off or even air-ball them).

[hitmantb]

To be honest there is definitely revenge factor at play, he is super motivated because of the trade/betrayal.

He is playing at 110% level and Kwahi is playing at 90% level IMO to start the season.

Let's see what happens after that raw emotion wears off.

Still it is super entertaining to have Kobe (may not be peak Kobe, but still) on your team!

[Dejounte]

To be honest there is definitely revenge factor at play, he is super motivated because of the trade/betrayal.

He is playing at 110% level and Kwahi is playing at 90% level IMO to start the season.

Let's see what happens after that raw emotion wears off.

Still it is super entertaining to have Kobe (may not be peak Kobe, but still) on your team!

I think DeMar is forced to playing at 110% with Dejounte and Derrick out. It isn't just revenge. I bet if those two were back to lessen the load on DeMar, DeMar could be more productive.

[skin27]

I think DeMar is forced to playing at 110% with Dejounte and Derrick out. It isn't just revenge. I bet if those two were back to lessen the load on DeMar, DeMar could be more productive.


Demar is more productive being a playmaker.. if Murray comes back demar stats will go down..

[boutons_deux]

I think DeMar is forced to playing at 110% with Dejounte and Derrick out. It isn't just revenge. I bet if those two were back to lessen the load on DeMar, DeMar could be more productive.

I'm pretty sure, given the absence of other scorers, that DeMar is forced, well agrees, to carry the scoring burden.

[spurraider21]

i just hope he doesnt wear down. small sample size but he's averaging his most minutes per game in about 5 years and i don't think he's ever had this kind of offensive burden before...

[spurraider21]

also why does the thread title keep changing?

[DJR210]

Two of the most hated Spurs have that in common. Smh

late :lol

[weeks]

people on lg complaining about how we always make stupid mid-range shots

:angel

[Dverde]

This dude is a great scorer. Sorry he is on this Spurs team.

[gospursgojas]

Demar DeCloser tbh

[FireMicoHalili]

Kawhitstorm still waiting for a horrible DeRozan game...been a while looooool

[Seventyniner]

Ironic that now we root for someone who tries so hard to play like Kobe.

[FireMicoHalili]

Ironic that now we root for someone who tries so hard to play like Kobe.
he's not Kobe, he's not wearing a purple and gold jersey, he's not riding the coattails of a HOF big man, and he's not on a $30M contract on his twilight years. That alone should be fine.

[007nites]

Kawhitstorm still waiting for a horrible DeRozan game...been a while looooool

[in2deep]

https://twitter.com/TheRenderNBA/status/1057107924219236352

[Kawhitstorm]

Kawhitstorm still waiting for a horrible DeRozan game...been a while looooool

Let me know when DeFrozen wins a game against a playoff team. Got run out of the gym twice against the aforementioned teams but keep cooking his empty calories.:sleep

[DAF86]

Ironic that now we root for someone who tries so hard to play like Kobe.

Kobe didn't play the pick and roll like DeRozan does, tbh.

[skin27]

I hope demar can maintain this great game his having so far this season

[TDMVPDPOY]

will lol if he wins mvp over.......nephew and the nbas bastard children gsw

[FireMicoHalili]

Let me know when DeFrozen wins a game against a playoff team. Got run out of the gym twice against the aforementioned teams but keep cooking his empty calories.:sleep
must be difficult waiting for an absolute clunker of a game to get your point across lmao but sure move the goal posts until then

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DqugYl6XgAEwZOv.jpg:large

[Kawhitstorm]

must be difficult waiting for an absolute clunker of a game to get your point across lmao but sure move the goal posts until then

Yeah, the debate was if DeFrozen could put up empty calorie numbers on a 50 win team when he has been doing that for the past 5 seasons.:sleep

Just let me know if he doesn't forget his balls when the big boys show up at the playground.

[FireMicoHalili]

Yeah, the debate was if DeFrozen could put up empty calorie numbers on a 50 win team when he has been doing that for the past 5 seasons.:sleep

Just let me know if he doesn't forget his balls when the big boys show up at the playground.
JuSt LeT mE kNoW iF hE dOeSnT fOrGeT hIs BaLlS wHeN tHe BiG bOyS sHoW uP aT tHe PlAygRoUnD

[Kawhitstorm]

JuSt LeT mE kNoW iF hE dOeSnT fOrGeT hIs BaLlS wHeN tHe BiG bOyS sHoW uP aT tHe PlAygRoUnD

Truth Hurts:cry:baby:cry

[FireMicoHalili]

Truth Hurts:cry:baby:cry
basketball hurts you? Not surprised tbh especially with how you reacted with Kawhi leaving...must've taken a while to get over him

[John B]

he's not Kobe, he's not wearing a purple and gold jersey, he's not riding the coattails of a HOF big man, and he's not on a $30M contract on his twilight years. That alone should be fine.
He’s not forcing shots against 4 defenders, he’s not chucking 30 shots, he’s not ball hugging and always willing pass, he doesn’t scorn at his teammates as beneath him, lol when he pumped his chest and cautiously glanced at Pops area though :lol

[attersonjb]

According to NBAdraftnet, his athleticism rated as a 10 coming out of college: http://www.nbadraft.net/players/demar-derozan
Certainly he had above average athleticism, but he was never a freak and lacked lateral quickness. Apart from a decent jumper, he was also very raw coming out of USC. That's why it took him a long time to create the necessary repertoire of skills needed to provide space (footwork, handle, PnR playmaking).

[skin27]

I just realize demar had ibaka , Valanciunas Patterson, etc..those bigs can hit midrange but how come derozan had low assist when he was in Toronto?

[hater]

I just realize demar had ibaka , Valanciunas Patterson, etc..those bigs can hit midrange but how come derozan had low assist when he was in Toronto?

Stupid coach usd him as scorer and not playmaker.

Also Lowly needed “mah touches” :cry

[Mirrornick]

I just realize demar had ibaka , Valanciunas Patterson, etc..those bigs can hit midrange but how come derozan had low assist when he was in Toronto?

5.2 APG is not that low for a scoring guard IMO. He also did it in 33MPG. He also had an elite point guard next to him whereas this season his PG(FORBES) is literally a SG in a PG's body. And LOL those three guys you mentioned were not even that good shooters, especially Patterson who threw up bricks after bricks. He's facilitating more than ever. I love the offense thus far. I hated Dwane Casey for never posting up DeRozan when he was hot. Things seem to be different now. I see that he's in the post more often which is one of his biggest strengths. DD is the last dying breed of post up/Footwork/midrange shooting guards that we grew up watching

[Immortal Spur]

5.2 APG is not that low for a scoring guard IMO. He also did it in 33MPG. He also had an elite point guard next to him whereas this season his PG(FORBES) is literally a SG in a PG's body. And LOL those three guys you mentioned were not even that good shooters, especially Patterson who threw up bricks after bricks. He's facilitating more than ever. I love the offense thus far. I hated Dwane Casey for never posting up DeRozan when he was hot. Things seem to be different now. I see that he's in the post more often which is one of his biggest strengths. DD is the last dying breed of post up/Footwork/midrange shooting guards that we grew up watching

solid post

[Mirrornick]

solid post

Thanks !

[skin27]

5.2 APG is not that low for a scoring guard IMO. He also did it in 33MPG. He also had an elite point guard next to him whereas this season his PG(FORBES) is literally a SG in a PG's body. And LOL those three guys you mentioned were not even that good shooters, especially Patterson who threw up bricks after bricks. He's facilitating more than ever. I love the offense thus far. I hated Dwane Casey for never posting up DeRozan when he was hot. Things seem to be different now. I see that he's in the post more often which is one of his biggest strengths. DD is the last dying breed of post up/Footwork/midrange shooting guards that we grew up watching

im asking because to be honest I did never watch derozan before in Toronto but I know he’s a good scorer....I know him because before whenever the raptors play the spurs he always goes off..lol.

[Mirrornick]

im asking because to be honest I did never watch derozan before in Toronto but I know he’s a good scorer....I know him because before whenever the raptors play the spurs he always goes off..lol.

Yeah ask away. I have been a fan of the Raptors since 2001 and most likely watched 98% of DD's games in Toronto. My posts may come off as bias because I am fully aware that I am a DeStan :)

I'm pretty sure there's a few more raptors fans out there who signed up on this board to follow DD's career as a Spurs player.

[Kawhitstorm]

basketball has hurts me tbh especially with Kawhi leaving...it's going to take a while to get over him

FIFY

Keep those tears coming, tell me how much it hurt:baby

[SpursDynasty85]

Yeah ask away. I have been a fan of the Raptors since 2001 and most likely watched 98% of DD's games in Toronto. My posts may come off as bias because I am fully aware that I am a DeStan :)

I'm pretty sure there's a few more raptors fans out there who signed up on this board to follow DD's career as a Spurs player.

Not gonna lie I already like him more than almost any Spurs except Duncan and Robinson. Its early and I'm not saying he is the 3rd best Spurs of all time but he is very easy to root for and his game is very fun to watch.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DquiHTdUwAEgAsT.jpg:large

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dqx0JsXWoAE2va5.jpg:large

[FireMicoHalili]

I miss frotting with Kawhi. I miss him everyday. My fragile little sports heart just can’t take it
aw man come on he’ll come back and sit on your face again

took you a day? damn your game weak lol I own u bitch

[Mirrornick]

Not gonna lie I already like him more than almost any Spurs except Duncan and Robinson. Its early and I'm not saying he is the 3rd best Spurs of all time but he is very easy to root for and his game is very fun to watch.

cool. I hope you don't flip on him after one bad game. Seen it so many times on the raptors board.

DD wins player of the month = it's quiet
DD 1 bad game = everyone comes out of the woodworks.

[SpursDynasty85]

cool. I hope you don't flip on him after one bad game. Seen it so many times on the raptors board.

DD wins player of the month = it's quiet
DD 1 bad game = everyone comes out of the woodworks.

Lol. True true. He is having an incredible start to the season. Rooting for him for sure.

[Mirrornick]

Lol. True true. He is having an incredible start to the season. Rooting for him for sure.

GREAT!

[NASpurs]

Remember when Fat Lowry said that he wanted to sign with the Spurs but didn't because the Spurs didn't want him? And said all of that the day before playing the Spurs... good times :lol

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25128523/demar-derozan-embracing-new-start-san-antonio-spurs-nba (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25128523/demar-derozan-embracing-new-start-san-antonio-spurs-nba)

How DeMar DeRozan got over being traded and embraced the Spurs


SAN ANTONIO -- As Rudy Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005/rudy-gay) chomps on a sandwich in the locker room ahead of the San Antonio Spurs' exhibition opener, DeMar DeRozan (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan) points an iPhone his way to reveal a FaceTime chat with former Toronto Raptors (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/tor/toronto-raptors) teammate Kyle Lowry (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3012/kyle-lowry).

"What he say?" Gay asks between bites.

"You're f---ing dead to me," DeRozan whispers back.

Belly laughter quickly envelops that corner of the locker room, just a few steps from the door. DeRozan has come a long way from heartbreak.

"It took a while for me to get back in that happy place," DeRozan says, "where I didn't care about much in the sense of like, 'Just be happy, man. Just be yourself. Don't worry about all that other stuff.'"

Maybe it's also that the more than 1,400 miles separating Toronto and San Antonio are distancing DeRozan emotionally from the pain of July 18 (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24130775/nba-players-react-toronto-raptors-trading-demar-derozan). That's the day the Raptors traded him to the Alamo City along with Jakob Poeltl (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3134908/jakob-poeltl) in exchange for a disgruntled Kawhi Leonard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard), Danny Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green) and a protected 2019 first-round pick.

Now nearly healed from the crushing realization that he was no longer wanted by an organization he had no desire to leave, DeRozan is embracing both San Antonio's championship culture and the finite nature of his own career, which includes four All-Star appearances, five straight trips to the playoffs as a Raptor and a 2016 Olympic gold medal -- but no NBA titles.

DeRozan aims to rewrite that last part of his bio.

"Every day that goes by, my days in this league are getting limited," he says. "And you want to maximize and take full advantage of everything, of being able to compete for a championship. Because if you were to ask me my rookie year if I would look up 10 years later and this is where I'd be, I wouldn't believe it.

"So now it's about putting everything that I've learned, everything I went through, that I've accomplished, my fails, my sacrifices, just putting all that together and understanding that it's time to lay it all out there on the line. Because when it's time to hang it up, I want to have no regrets."

DeRozan makes it clear he wants to focus on moving forward instead of reliving what took place in Toronto (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24184139/demar-derozan-dishes-trade-toronto-raptors-san-antonio-spurs-nba). He doesn't want to discuss his struggles with depression (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22582972/demar-derozan-toronto-raptors-depression-fight-all-human), although the new Spur says he's "feeling great" mentally. But DeRozan acknowledges that fully focusing on what's next is impossible without overcoming the pain he endured this summer. Asked if he's hurt by what happened in Toronto and whether he sees it as a motivating force, DeRozan doesn't hesitate.

"Both, without a doubt," he says. "I definitely was extremely hurt. I'd be lying if I told you I wasn't. I always made it clear that Toronto was where I wanted to retire. You never heard a player say that. No star player. Nobody. My whole objective being there was fighting against the stigma that guys didn't want to play there. As it happened to me, when I gave everything I could on the court and off the court, it definitely hurt. It definitely hurt. To feel like, 'Damn, I wasn't nothing? I wasn't this? All right, cool. Now, I'm going to show you.'"

[skin27]

Remember when Fat Lowry said that he wanted to sign with the Spurs but didn't because the Spurs didn't want him? And said all of that the day before playing the Spurs... good times :lol

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25128523/demar-derozan-embracing-new-start-san-antonio-spurs-nba (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/25128523/demar-derozan-embracing-new-start-san-antonio-spurs-nba)

How DeMar DeRozan got over being traded and embraced the Spurs


SAN ANTONIO -- As Rudy Gay (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3005/rudy-gay) chomps on a sandwich in the locker room ahead of the San Antonio Spurs' exhibition opener, DeMar DeRozan (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3978/demar-derozan) points an iPhone his way to reveal a FaceTime chat with former Toronto Raptors (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/tor/toronto-raptors) teammate Kyle Lowry (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3012/kyle-lowry).

"What he say?" Gay asks between bites.

"You're f---ing dead to me," DeRozan whispers back.

Belly laughter quickly envelops that corner of the locker room, just a few steps from the door. DeRozan has come a long way from heartbreak.

"It took a while for me to get back in that happy place," DeRozan says, "where I didn't care about much in the sense of like, 'Just be happy, man. Just be yourself. Don't worry about all that other stuff.'"

Maybe it's also that the more than 1,400 miles separating Toronto and San Antonio are distancing DeRozan emotionally from the pain of July 18 (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24130775/nba-players-react-toronto-raptors-trading-demar-derozan). That's the day the Raptors traded him to the Alamo City along with Jakob Poeltl (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3134908/jakob-poeltl) in exchange for a disgruntled Kawhi Leonard (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/6450/kawhi-leonard), Danny Green (http://www.espn.com/nba/player/_/id/3988/danny-green) and a protected 2019 first-round pick.

Now nearly healed from the crushing realization that he was no longer wanted by an organization he had no desire to leave, DeRozan is embracing both San Antonio's championship culture and the finite nature of his own career, which includes four All-Star appearances, five straight trips to the playoffs as a Raptor and a 2016 Olympic gold medal -- but no NBA titles.

DeRozan aims to rewrite that last part of his bio.

"Every day that goes by, my days in this league are getting limited," he says. "And you want to maximize and take full advantage of everything, of being able to compete for a championship. Because if you were to ask me my rookie year if I would look up 10 years later and this is where I'd be, I wouldn't believe it.

"So now it's about putting everything that I've learned, everything I went through, that I've accomplished, my fails, my sacrifices, just putting all that together and understanding that it's time to lay it all out there on the line. Because when it's time to hang it up, I want to have no regrets."

DeRozan makes it clear he wants to focus on moving forward instead of reliving what took place in Toronto (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/24184139/demar-derozan-dishes-trade-toronto-raptors-san-antonio-spurs-nba). He doesn't want to discuss his struggles with depression (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22582972/demar-derozan-toronto-raptors-depression-fight-all-human), although the new Spur says he's "feeling great" mentally. But DeRozan acknowledges that fully focusing on what's next is impossible without overcoming the pain he endured this summer. Asked if he's hurt by what happened in Toronto and whether he sees it as a motivating force, DeRozan doesn't hesitate.

"Both, without a doubt," he says. "I definitely was extremely hurt. I'd be lying if I told you I wasn't. I always made it clear that Toronto was where I wanted to retire. You never heard a player say that. No star player. Nobody. My whole objective being there was fighting against the stigma that guys didn't want to play there. As it happened to me, when I gave everything I could on the court and off the court, it definitely hurt. It definitely hurt. To feel like, 'Damn, I wasn't nothing? I wasn't this? All right, cool. Now, I'm going to show you.'"


hope itmotivates demar to play better this season..so far he’s playing well..

[Spurs fever]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2vGTMeGl1QY

[TDMVPDPOY]

he needs to improve 3pt shot

he needs an elite 3+d player alongside him.... i dont think going after butler is the solution who probably wants 20+, like i said shouldve ask for raptors wings or green had no business being included in that trade

but then again whose to say green wont be playing like that today if he was still a spur?

[Mirrornick]

he needs to improve 3pt shot

he needs an elite 3+d player alongside him.... i dont think going after butler is the solution who probably wants 20+, like i said shouldve ask for raptors wings or green had no business being included in that trade

but then again whose to say green wont be playing like that today if he was still a spur?

I think Green would play just as well. Contract year

[Dverde]

DeMar still out there balling every game. Thread deserves a bump.

[r0drig0lac]

DeMar still out there balling every game. Thread deserves a bump.

I agree, he really deserved a better support roster this season, he's one of the only guys out there who is not to blame for poor performance of the team

[San Antonio Slayer]

as well as he deserves to be a better 1 on 1 defender

[Dverde]

Bumping the safe house. DD trying hard to put out this roster dumpster fire. 36 points, 8 rebounds, 9 assists. :toast

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dt3Yx-uU4AA0JFH.jpg:large

[skin27]

I hope we play the lakers every night so that he can produce those number every night

[ace3g]

GAME LOG


DATE
OPP
SCORE
MIN
FGM-FGA
FG%
3PM-3PA
3P%
FTM-FTA
FT%
REB
AST
BLK
STL
PF
TO
PTS


Mon 1/7


@

DET (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/det/detroit-pistons)


W 119-107 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071267)
34
12-21
.571
0-0
.000
2-2
1.000
7
9
2
2
5
2
26


Sat 1/5


vs

MEM (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/mem/memphis-grizzlies)


W 108-88 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071257)
34
3-10
.300
0-0
.000
6-7
.857
9
4
0
1
2
5
12


Thu 1/3


vs

TOR (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/tor/toronto-raptors)


W 125-107 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071239)
33
7-15
.467
0-0
.000
7-7
1.000
14
11
0
2
2
3
21


Mon 12/31


vs

BOS (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/bos/boston-celtics)


W 120-111 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071221)
35
6-18
.333
0-0
.000
1-1
1.000
7
10
0
1
1
1
13


Sat 12/29


@

LAC (http://www.espn.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/la-clippers)


W 122-111 (http://www.espn.com/nba/boxscore/_/id/401071211)
38
9-19
.474
0-1
.000
7-7
1.000
13
6
1
4
3
3
25


Last 5 Games
34.8
7.4-16.6
.446
0.0-0.2
.000
4.6-4.8
.958
10.0
8.0
0.6
2.0
2.6
2.8
19.4

[hater]

Welcome our newest cancer! All aboard!!

:danceclub

Lol OP

[spurraider21]

Lol OP
he's been great tbh, but derozan is known for his regular seasons

also original thread title was much better tbh