The next James Bond is black

[CitizenDwayne]

Don’t cancel the franchise, but kill Bond off and then follow Idris Elba, as a new character, with his own traits and characteristics he can develop. What would be wrong with that?

[Pavlov]

Don’t cancel the franchise, but kill Bond off and then follow Idris Elba, as a new character, with his own traits and characteristics he can develop. What would be wrong with that?What would be wrong with a black Bond?

The only real requirement is being a British dude.

[CitizenDwayne]

What would be wrong with a black Bond?

The only real requirement is being a British dude.
I guess I don’t really see the point. It may not matter to you, but he was created as white and has been for 50+ years.

Plus it’s not like Bond films are totally unique at this point (Mission impossible, Bourne). Just make a new black spy character.

[Pavlov]

I guess I don’t really see the point. It may not matter to you, but he was created as white and has been for 50+ years.

Plus it’s not like Bond films are totally unique at this point (Mission impossible, Bourne). Just make a new black spy character.So this is just about your feelings?

[Spurminator]

Just as I can’t picture an American bond, I can’t really picture a black bond.

While your honesty is appreciated, this is really kind of a perplexing point of view. What makes it difficult to picture? Is there a subconscious insecurity about a black guy taking over a character who typically beds several white women in a film?

Fundamentally, there's no reason to be any more distracted by Elba's race than by Craig's hair color, or by the fact that Roger Moore has a different nose than Sean Connery. Each Bond has been different from the ones preceding him, why should a difference of skin color be difficult for you to picture unless you feel there are traits inherent to black men that disqualify them from playing such a role?

[CitizenDwayne]

So this is just about your feelings?
Sure pal, that’s what I said.

[CitizenDwayne]

While your honesty is appreciated, this is really kind of a perplexing point of view. What makes it difficult to picture? Is there a subconscious insecurity about a black guy taking over a character who typically beds several white women in a film?

Fundamentally, there's no reason to be any more distracted by Elba's race than by Craig's hair color, or by the fact that Roger Moore has a different nose than Sean Connery. Each Bond has been different from the ones preceding him, why should a difference of skin color be difficult for you to picture unless you feel there are traits inherent to black men that disqualify them from playing such a role?
The nose difference really bothered me actually

[Pavlov]

Sure pal, that’s what I said.Yes, it is exactly what you said.

[AaronY]

I'll tell ya what I did; i fought back! I'll tell ya how and maybe you could learn how to do it too.




So I was excited i heard dere was gonna be a new Ghostbusters. Oh I loved that one when I was a child. Bill murray, akroyd, the nerd from Stripes, and there was a black guy too but he stayed in the background not like the ones nowadays trying to be president now and lecturing me on tv. So the new one I see they not only got rid of the original cast but they replaced am not with white guys but with women! pluS there was a black chick and she was all uppity and in from of the scenes and stuff!




Well so I got em though. I got em good. I went to the Google and I entered in Ghostbusters 2016 but here's what I did i also entered in imdb. Then I went to the bottom of the imdb.com page and entered in the discussions! I told em good in those discussions it was a battle but you gotta get in the frontlines you wanna win this culture war! You may think this is dirty poker but I also have it a one star before I even saw it! We have to sink to their level to win




They thought they was gonna take my Ghostbusters away from me! I said no, not on my watch! Us poor white people Ghostbusters is one of the few things we got left and it took some work but we saved it

[tlongII]

I don't care who they cast as the new James Bond. I'm pretty sure I'll like it. I love Daniel Craig in the role though.

[resistanze]

muh white Bond :cry

[Pavlov]

muh white Bond :cry:lol Half the brownshirts whining in here don't even watch the movies. The mere idea of Blackbond is killing them.

[FrostKing]

muh white Bond :cry
He is ours and you'll never take that away from us

[Trill Clinton]

hollywood has been whitewashing films/shows forever and Spurstalk is triggered over a black james bond.

[SpursforSix]

Plus it’s not like Bond films are totally unique at this point (Mission impossible, Bourne). Just make a new black spy character.

why would they spend the money and take the risk of developing a brand new black spy when they can just plug in to the Bond franchise? I don’t really give a shit what their motives for casting him are. He’s a great actor and it will probably outdo the most recent Bond movie.

I’ve skipped a lot of them even though they were probably good. But it’s very likely I’ll check this one out with the new face. I imagine a lot of others will as well.

The bottom line is who can they cast that they believe will bring in the most viewers.

[SpursforSix]

hollywood has been whitewashing films/shows forever and Spurstalk is triggered over a black james bond.

Triggered? It’s like a handful of posters. And it’s more likely that the ones triggered will post as opposed to the large majority who are fine with it.

[Chris]

hollywood has been whitewashing films/shows forever

Yep, and you still send them your money.

lol

[manufan10]

I think his casting as Roland in The Dark Tower was worse, but I still saw it. I don't see what the big deal is.

[Trill Clinton]

Yep, and you still send them your money.

lol

i don't watch those films. I did see the black klansmen this weekend tho.

[spurraider21]

I think his casting as Roland in The Dark Tower was worse, but I still saw it. I don't see what the big deal is.
you dont understand! idris elba is... black!

[Blake]

Yep, and you still send them your money.

lol

So will you.

[Chris]

So will you.

https://media3.giphy.com/media/kaq6GnxDlJaBq/giphy.gif

[SpursforSix]

you dont understand! idris elba is... black!

Right...but not ghetto black. So I think everyone should be more open minded.
Now if they went with Jamie Foxx...well...that’s a different story.

[lefty]

Srs question:

How would black people have reacted if Black Panther was played by a white dude?

[Blake]

https://media3.giphy.com/media/kaq6GnxDlJaBq/giphy.gif

You never ever watch any movies?

[Blake]

Srs question:

How would black people have reacted if Black Panther was played by a white dude?

Are there any tribes in Africa with white people?

[leemajors]

I think his casting as Roland in The Dark Tower was worse, but I still saw it. I don't see what the big deal is.

I thought he was ok, but that script would have made anybody look bad.

[spurraider21]

Srs question:

How would black people have reacted if Black Panther was played by a white dude?
i think T'Challas' race is an inherent and indispensable aspect of his character.

all i'd say that matters for bond is being british and being that smooth/classy dude

[Spurminator]

Srs question:

How would black people have reacted if Black Panther was played by a white dude?

Why is Black Panther the only black lead character you guys can seem to come up with?

A better comparison would be casting a white guy in the Danny Glover character of the Lethal Weapon franchise. Or the Will Smith character in Men in Black.

[lefty]

Are there any tribes in Africa with white people?
Heimdall is a fucking NORSE God, yet they cast Elba

[DAF86]

As much as I wouldn't like to be placed on the racist, dumb, conservative side of the argument, I just can't help but laugh at the dumbfucks screaming "racism" just because folks are expressing their opinion about not wanting a character, they have followed their entire lifes, not being radically changed in appearance. :lol

Srs question for all you folks: Wouldn't you be put off by a bald Superman? Superman hair isn't essential to the character, so following the logic of some here, I should guess you wouldn't, although I'm sure that would be a lie.

What is wrong with wanting one of your favourite characters to remain as true as possible to the character you have grown to like?

Not everything has to be racist, tbh. Bitches were whinning like crazy about the guy casted for Fifty Shades of Gray not resembling the character described on the book. Clearly not a problem of race, since the actor was white. Hardcore fans will always want their favourite characters to be represented as close as possible to the mental representations they have of those characters.

With that being said, I just googled this Elba guy. He does seem like he could pull a very convincent James Bond, look wise. Much better than the old fart looking dude that was playing him untill now. But then again, I'm not a James Bond fan, so I really wouldn't know.

[SpursforSix]

^ racist rant noted

[DAF86]

Whatever son. :lol

[Chris]

You never ever watch any movies?

No.

[Chris]

As much as I wouldn't like to be placed on the racist, dumb, conservative side of the argument, I just can't help but laugh at the dumbfucks screaming "racism" just because folks are expressing their opinion about not wanting a character, they have followed their entire lifes, not being radically changed in appearance. :lol

Srs question for all you folks: Wouldn't you be put off by a bald Superman? Superman hair isn't essential to the character, so following the logic of some here, I should guess you wouldn't, although I'm sure that would be a lie.

What is wrong with wanting one of your favourite characters to remain as true as possible to the character you have grown to like?

Not everything has to be racist, tbh. Bitches were whinning like crazy about the guy casted for Fifty Shades of Gray not resembling the character described on the book. Clearly not a problem of race, since the actor was white. Hardcore fans will always want their favourite characters to be represented as close as possible to the mental representations they have of those characters.

With that being said, I just googled this Elba guy. He does seem like he could pull a very convincent James Bond, look wise. Much better than the old fart looking dude that was playing him untill now. But then again, I'm not a James Bond fan, so I really wouldn't know.

Arn

[FrostKing]

"He's a great actor"

I will need proof. A good actor, sure.

[leemajors]

"He's a great actor"

I will need proof. A good actor, sure.

Luther, the Wire.

[SpursforSix]

"He's a great actor"

I will need proof. A good actor, sure.

Bend over, I’ll fuckin give ya proof

[vy65]

Good choice, but he totally whiffed as Roland in the abortion that was the Dark Tower movie. Willing to give him a second chance since he could be really good and DT was a total dumpster fire.

[baseline bum]

:cry Bond should be a ninety year-old Scottsman for consistency with the original actor :cry

[Spurminator]

As much as I wouldn't like to be placed on the racist, dumb, conservative side of the argument, I just can't help but laugh at the dumbfucks screaming "racism" just because folks are expressing their opinion about not wanting a character, they have followed their entire lifes, not being radically changed in appearance. :lol

Daniel Craig looks nothing like Sean Connery, who looks nothing like Pierce Brosnan.


Srs question for all you folks: Wouldn't you be put off by a bald Superman? Superman hair isn't essential to the character, so following the logic of some here, I should guess you wouldn't, although I'm sure that would be a lie.

I could easily see a bald Superman. Like a Vin Diesel type, except someone who could act.


What is wrong with wanting one of your favourite characters to remain as true as possible to the character you have grown to like?

Your "true" is based only on his skin color. Period. You see his blackness as a fundamentally more extreme character change than any other physical trait. This doesn't make you a bad person, but you should reflect on it.


But then again, I'm not a James Bond fan, so I really wouldn't know.

Didn't you say earlier in this post that you've followed this character your entire life?

[vy65]

Tbh his casting as Roland is 1000000000x worse considering the gunslinger was repeatedly called honky by Detta Walker.

Elba as Bond is solid on paper.

[FrostKing]

Luther, the Wire.
So Edris always plays a black guy? Why you guys expect him to pull off James Bond. Cracks me up

[Quadzilla99]

I'll tell ya what I did; i fought back! I'll tell ya how and maybe you could learn how to do it too.




So I was excited i heard dere was gonna be a new Ghostbusters. Oh I loved that one when I was a child. Bill murray, akroyd, the nerd from Stripes, and there was a black guy too but he stayed in the background not like the ones nowadays trying to be president now and lecturing me on tv. So the new one I see they not only got rid of the original cast but they replaced am not with white guys but with women! pluS there was a black chick and she was all uppity and in from of the scenes and stuff!




Well so I got em though. I got em good. I went to the Google and I entered in Ghostbusters 2016 but here's what I did i also entered in imdb. Then I went to the bottom of the imdb.com page and entered in the discussions! I told em good in those discussions it was a battle but you gotta get in the frontlines you wanna win this culture war! You may think this is dirty poker but I also have it a one star before I even saw it! We have to sink to their level to win




They thought they was gonna take my Ghostbusters away from me! I said no, not on my watch! Us poor white people Ghostbusters is one of the few things we got left and it took some work but we saved it

:lmao

[Pavlov]

Heimdall is a fucking NORSE God, yet they cast ElbaHeimdall is not from Norway.

[pookenstein]

If Elba is (skillwise) the best man for the job I have no Problem with him portraying Bond.


How long until we get a female Bond? Feminazis assemble!

[lefty]

Heimdall is not from Norway.

Is he from Africa?

[Pavlov]

Is he from Africa?
Elba is British.

Just like Anthony Hopkins.

Neither are from Africa.

Neither Heimdall nor Odin are from Britain.

[Blake]

Is he from Africa?

He's not from Earth

[Blake]

If Elba is (skillwise) the best man for the job I have no Problem with him portraying Bond.


How long until we get a female Bond? Feminazis assemble!

So you think there will be a female cast as James Bond some day?

[Thanos]

Heimdall is a fucking NORSE God, yet they cast Elba
Heimdall in the comics is an alien from another planet, you fucking retard.

[Blake]

Heimdall in the comics is an alien from another planet, you fucking retard.

Imagine if they get a white dude to play Thanos

[Pavlov]

Jesus, these snowflakes have had a full decade to get over Nick Fury yet here we are.

[BD24]

If a new Shaft movie came out with the lead cast as a white male, you would see the standards flip.
Holy fuck, Donald Glover literally has a stand up bit where he talks about white dudes heads exploding and using this exact example of Shaft:lmao

[AaronY]

1029724005647900674

[BD24]

https://youtu.be/ULdm2NLrN4E
:lol Chris to a T

[leemajors]

So Edris always plays a black guy? Why you guys expect him to pull off James Bond. Cracks me up

derp

[DAF86]

Daniel Craig looks nothing like Sean Connery, who looks nothing like Pierce Brosnan.

Agreed. I already said Daniel Craig didn't look like a James Bond type to me.


I could easily see a bald Superman. Like a Vin Diesel type, except someone who could act.

Maybe you do. Most people wouldn't be ok with it, though.


Your "true" is based only on his skin color. Period. You see his blackness as a fundamentally more extreme character change than any other physical trait. This doesn't make you a bad person, but you should reflect on it.

Not true, that's why I gave examples of a bald superman, or women not liking the Fifty Shades of Gary actor, or Daniel Craig not looking like a James Bond type to me.

But yeah, colour of skin would be among the very top extreme character changes, tbh. That doesn't make me racist, is just a very basic observation.


Didn't you say earlier in this post that you've followed this character your entire life?

No.

[DAF86]

1029724005647900674

The good thing about this is seeing dumb fucks like this bitch getting raging mad. :lol

Somebody tell her that the petulant, confident act she's trying to put while expressing herself only makes her seem like a punchable cunt, tbh.

[pookenstein]

So you think there will be a female cast as James Bond some day?

Hopefully not. A maneating Bond just wouldn't do it for me. Thinking of it, I would totally support a Bond movie with Halle Berry as Bond and Denise Richards and/or Eva Green as the love interest.

[lefty]

Elba is British.

Just like Anthony Hopkins.

Neither are from Africa.

Neither Heimdall nor Odin are from Britain.
I didn't mean Elba, I meant Heimdall

[lefty]

Jesus, these snowflakes have had a full decade to get over Nick Fury yet here we are.
Nick Fury can be black.
James Bond can be black (it was a quota casting, but it's still totally possible for Bond to be of any ethnicity).


But Heimdall is a norse/Viking God so it doesn't really make sense to cast a black dude.

I'm not complaining though , Elba did a great job as Heimdall

[Darth_Pelican]

Jamal Bond?

[140]

lol at this becoming a 10+ page thread

:lmao insecure whites

[Blake]

Nick Fury can be black.
James Bond can be black (it was a quota casting, but it's still totally possible for Bond to be of any ethnicity).


But Heimdall is a norse/Viking God so it doesn't really make sense to cast a black dude.

I'm not complaining though , Elba did a great job as Heimdall

Heimdall is an alien in the MCU

[Blake]

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[DAF86]

.

Compelling argument.

[Pavlov]

Nick Fury can be black.
James Bond can be black (it was a quota casting, but it's still totally possible for Bond to be of any ethnicity).


But Heimdall is a norse/Viking God so it doesn't really make sense to cast a black dude.

I'm not complaining though , Elba did a great job as Heimdall


Heimdall is an alien in the MCU

[Thanos]

Compelling argument.
As if your “:cry it’s not traditional but also I don’t care but I’m gonna argue for pages about it and I’m definitely not racist but HE NEEDS TO BE WHITE but it’s fine if he’s black and Idris Eba is great and well qualified for the role but they didn’t cast him because he’s great and well qualified they did it for attention and to virtue signal :cry” little bitchfest has any more substance than “.”

[Thanos]

If they did an Indiana Jones reboot and cast him as a black guy from Haiti, then maybe i’d get the virtue signaling argument. But considering the entire Bond franchise is full of non-continuity and recasting of the title character, how is this possibly anything but casting a terrific British actor?

[DAF86]

As if your “:cry it’s not traditional but also I don’t care but I’m gonna argue for pages about it and I’m definitely not racist but HE NEEDS TO BE WHITE but it’s fine if he’s black and Idris Eba is great and well qualified for the role but they didn’t cast him because he’s great and well qualified they did it for attention and to virtue signal :cry” little bitchfest has any more substance than “.”

:lol you are just mad because I'm making sense and I'm arguing with rational, non-racist opinions. Yall are used to argue about this kind of shit with dumb, close-minded conservatives which go to move is saying "white men are being opressed" on discussions like these.

Just another example: How would you have liked for Thanos to have had long blonde hair and yellow skin on Infinity War? It would have been exactly the same for you?

[Blake]

I don't give a fuck about white guys. I'm just calling the hypocrisy of only having social justice for blackmen and women. :lol Don't you think it would only be fair to also see your fellow Koreans as lead characters in Hollywood movies? Having Asian guys (and any other minority) get the same opportunities as whites, blacks and women.

Totally rational opinion

[DAF86]

Totally rational opinion

What's not rational about that?

Are you saying Latins and Asians have the same amount of lead roles as Women and blackmen? Or are you saying that Latins and Asians don't deserve the same amount of lead roles?

[Thanos]

What's not rational about that?

Are you saying Latins and Asians have the same amount of lead roles as Women and blackmen? Or are you saying that Latins and Asians don't deserve the same amount of lead roles?
Why are you acting like black people getting roles somehow hurts other minorities?

[Thanos]

:lol you are just mad because I'm making sense and I'm arguing with rational, non-racist opinions. Yall are used to argue about this kind of shit with dumb, close-minded conservatives which go to move is saying "white men are being opressed" on discussions like these.

Just another example: How would you have liked for Thanos to have had long blonde hair and yellow skin on Infinity War? It would have been exactly the same for you?

:lmao this dude really just compared a comic book alien’s CGI to the casting of a black guy.

[Thanos]

Mike Cernovich is reading that shit right now thinking “oh wow, brilliant!”

[DAF86]

Why are you acting like black people getting roles somehow hurts other minorities?

When the fuck did I say something remotely close to that? :lol

[Thanos]

:cry quit comparing me to alt-right racists who have the same opinion and thought process as me :cry

Next he’ll be talking about how his best friend is black.

[DAF86]

:lmao this dude really just compared a comic book alien’s CGI to the casting of a black guy.

No, I'm comparing a fictional character, to another fictional character.

[Pavlov]

:lol you are just mad because I'm making sense and I'm arguing with rational, non-racist opinions. Yall are used to argue about this kind of shit with dumb, close-minded conservatives which go to move is saying "white men are being opressed" on discussions like these.

Just another example: How would you have liked for Thanos to have had long blonde hair and yellow skin on Infinity War? It would have been exactly the same for you?The Ancient One isn't a bald white British woman in the comics, so you guys already got your whitewashed movie character.

Is that a slight on Asian actors? I'd call it a missed opportunity for sure. Nothing's perfect; I still don't see all the pushback against a perfectly plausible casting of a well-known, well-respected British actor to play a fictional British character.

[Thanos]

No, I'm comparing a fictional character, to another fictional character.
Purple bald alien being changed to have blonde hair

vs

White guy being changed to black guy

SAME FUCKIN THING! :lmao

[Pavlov]

No, I'm comparing a fictional character, to another fictional character.James Brolin isn't purple.

At least I don't think he is.

[DAF86]

Fictional characters with a story, with a backgound. That have been represented time after time on a specific way and that fans expect them to look a specific way.

[DAF86]

James Brolin isn't purple.

At least I don't think he is.

Is that suppossed to make any kind of point? :lol

I'm talking about the characters, not the actors.

[Thanos]

When the fuck did I say something remotely close to that? :lol
You literally just whined saying “why don’t Asians and Latinos get as many roles as black people” as if black people getting representation is unfair to them. Holy shit you’re fucking stupid :lmao

[DAF86]

Purple bald alien being changed to have blonde hair

vs

White guy being changed to black guy

SAME FUCKIN THING! :lmao

Yeah, for some guys ir might be. Thanos hair and colour of skin aren't essential to his character. Shouldn't it be the same for you ir it is purple le yellow?

And if it isn't, then why can't you respect that for some people it isn't the same to have a white James Bond, than a black James Bond?

[Pavlov]

Fictional characters with a story, with a backgound. That have been represented time after time on a specific way and that fans expect them to look a specific way.Ten years, dude.

https://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/David-Hasselhoff-as-Nick-Fury.jpg

[Thanos]

Yeah, for some guys ir might be. Thanos hair and colour of skin aren't essential to his character. Shouldn't it be the same for you ir it is purple le yellow?

And if it isn't, then why can't you respect that for some people it isn't the same to have a white James Bond, than a black James Bond?
BECAUSE ONE IS AN ALIEN AND THE OTHER IS A FUCKING HUMAN BEING YOU RETARDED CUNT.

[DAF86]

You literally just whined saying “why don’t Asians and Latinos get as many roles as black people” as if black people getting representation is unfair to them. Holy shit you’re fucking stupid :lmao

No, you are just bad at reading comprehension.

Do you want it clear? No, I don't think blacks and women getting lead roles impacts Latins and Asians. I'm just pointing out that this whole "social justice" thing is focusing more on blacks and women than Latins and Asians. And that's hypocresy. Social justice should be for everyone.

[DAF86]

BECAUSE ONE IS AN ALIEN AND THE OTHER IS A FUCKING HUMAN BEING YOU RETARDED CUNT.

In what way does that make a difference? :lol

"It's OK to bitch about a character having a different colour of skin ir that character isn't a human" :lmao

[Thanos]

No, you are just bad at reading comprehension.

Do you want it clear? No, I don't think blacks and women getting lead roles impacts Latins and Asians. I'm just pointing out that this whole "social justice" thing is focusing more on blacks and women than Latins and Asians. And that's hypocresy. Social justice should be for everyone.
It’s not hypocrisy, you retard, it’s incremental progress that is absolutely moving too slowly. Yes, Latins and Asians deserve as much representation as black people, but the fact that they don’t currently get that representation ISN’T BLACK PEOPLE’S FAULT.

”:cry unless everyone gets fair representation then nobody should, just keep everything white until then :cry”

:lmao fucking retard. I’m done with you, enjoy being an ignorant dumbshit.

[DAF86]

Ten years, dude.

https://www.slashfilm.com/wp/wp-content/images/David-Hasselhoff-as-Nick-Fury.jpg

I don't what is that suppossed to refer to? Nick Fury? I'm not familiar with the origins ir that character. Was he white or black? FWIW, I prefer Samuel L. Jackson, because that's the first Nick Fury I have known.

[DAF86]

It’s not hypocrisy, you retard, it’s incremental progress that is absolutely moving too slowly. Yes, Latins and Asians deserve as much representation as black people, but the fact that they don’t currently get that representation ISN’T BLACK PEOPLE’S FAULT.

”:cry unless everyone gets fair representation then nobody should, just keep everything white until then :cry”

:lmao fucking retard. I’m done with you, enjoy being an ignorant dumbshit.

Never said that. Again, reading comprehension failure.

[Pavlov]

It's not a perfect process, but Asian and Latin characters and versions of established characters have been coming into the comics for years now so I only think it's a matter of time before we get then in the movies -- especially as the current generation ages out.

As I said, a south Asian Bond would make even more demographic sense than Elba; I just can't think of any south Asian actors on the same level as Elba.

[Pavlov]

I don't what is that suppossed to refer to? Nick Fury? I'm not familiar with the origins ir that character. Was he white or black? FWIW, I prefer Samuel L. Jackson, because that's the first Nick Fury I have known.See? The people for whom Elba would be the first Bond wouldn't see it as a big deal either.

I'm incredulous that we're still having this conversation a solid decade after the casting of Nick Fury.

[FrostKing]

It's not a perfect process, but Asian and Latin characters and versions of established characters have been coming into the comics for years now so I only think it's a matter of time before we get then in the movies -- especially as the current generation ages out.

As I said, a south Asian Bond would make even more demographic sense than Elba; I just can't think of any south Asian actors on the same level as Elba.
You mean to say as the White demographic in America is bred out.

[Pavlov]

You mean to say as the White demographic in America is bred out.Nah, that's your racial nightmare. 'Murica has been diverse from the start.

[FrostKing]

Nah, that's your racial nightmare. 'Murica has been diverse from the start.
1960's - 90% White

Today - 55% ?

2050 - 35% ?

[Pavlov]

1960's - 90% White

Today - 55% ?

2050 - 35% ?Being a white male is still the easiest gig in this country.

You must be terrible at it if you're going to run away.

[Pavlov]

1960's - 90% White

Today - 55% ?

2050 - 35% ?Your numbers are wrong.

[FrostKing]

Being a white male is still the easiest gig in this country.

You must be terrible at it if you're going to run away.
There is no guarantee this will remain the case. It is more likely higher qualified white males will need to compete for less positions. Think of a Pepsi commercial where there is now only space for 1 white male to make room for all the other demographics.

If I was born in the USA, my family were here and I only spoke 1 language then I'd stay.

[Pavlov]

There is no guarantee this will remain the case. It is more likely higher qualified white males will need to compete for less positions. Think of a Pepsi commercial where there is now only space for 1 white male to make room for all the other demographics.

If I was born in the USA, my family were here and I only spoke 1 language then I'd stay.You just compared your life to a Pepsi commercial, dude.

[FrostKing]

You just compared your life to a Pepsi commercial, dude.
That is how multiculturalism operates - each demographic pulling in their own direction seeking to be represented.

[Pavlov]

That is how multiculturalism operates - each demographic pulling in their own direction seeking to be represented.I'm sorry you didn't get the Pepsi commercial gig. You just can't cut it in this country.

[Blake]

In what way does that make a difference? :lol

"It's OK to bitch about a character having a different colour of skin ir that character isn't a human" :lmao

Because aliens come in all different colors, there is zero need to suspend disbelief.

If Heimdall was green it wouldn't matter.

[DAF86]

See? The people for whom Elba would be the first Bond wouldn't see it as a big deal either.

I'm incredulous that we're still having this conversation a solid decade after the casting of Nick Fury.

Was Fury suppossed to be a white guy originally?

I didn't know shit about Nick Fury before the Ironman movie, that's why I prefer Samuel Jackson to David fucking Hasselhoff. But if Nick Fury was first thought as a white guy I can understand guys preferring him to be played by a white guy. I wouldn't dismiss them and call them racist just because of that, tbh.

[DAF86]

Because aliens come in all different colors, there is zero need to suspend disbelief.

If Heimdall was green it wouldn't matter.

Same as humans.

[Blake]

Same as humans.

Not green.

[Pavlov]

Was Fury suppossed to be a white guy originally?

I didn't know shit about Nick Fury before the Ironman movie, that's why I prefer Samuel Jackson to David fucking Hasselhoff. But if Nick Fury was first thought as a white guy I can understand guys preferring him to be played by a white guy. I wouldn't dismiss them and call them racist just because of that, tbh.Almost 50 years of white Fury....

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/2/24/Sgt_Fury_and_his_Howling_Commandos_Vol_1_1.jpg

[DAF86]

Not green.

Instead of a matter of black and White, it's a matter of yellow or purple. How is that different?

[DAF86]

Almost 50 years of white Fury....

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/2/24/Sgt_Fury_and_his_Howling_Commandos_Vol_1_1.jpg

We should ask a hardcore Nick Fury fan if he was cool with the change when he first saw it.

[Pavlov]

We should ask a hardcore Nick Fury fan if he was cool with the change when he first saw it.Are you a hardcore James Bond fan?

[Holden_Caulfield]

waiting for clark kent to be black

[DAF86]

Are you a hardcore James Bond fan?

Nop. Never seen a single movie.

[DAF86]

waiting for clark kent to be black

He's an alien. Black guy as a common guy and White guy as Superman or visceversa. That should have been a better disguise than fucking glases, tbh. :lol

[Blake]

Instead of a matter of black and White, it's a matter of yellow or purple. How is that different?

Talking about Heimdall

[DAF86]

Talking about Heimdall

Why did you quote me then? :lol

[Blake]

waiting for clark kent to be black

TV made Jimmy Olson black

[Blake]

In what way does that make a difference? :lol

"It's OK to bitch about a character having a different colour of skin ir that character isn't a human" :lmao

What non-human character are you referring to.

Honestly, I have no idea what your main point is. You seem to be all over the place.

[DAF86]

What non-human character are you referring to.

Honestly, I have no idea what your main point is. You seem to be all over the place.

My argument was with the poster that has Thanos as his username. I asked him if instead of Thanos being faithfully represented (acording to the source material) in the last Avengers movie, he would have had long blonde hair and yellow skin (non character defining traits), if he would have been cool with that. And his answer implied that he obviously wasn't, so then I pointed out that preferring purple over yellow, to stay faithful to the character, is the same as preferring white over black, to stay faithful to the character.

[Avante]

Why?

What is the reasoning in taking well know/famous literary characters and doing whatever ya want with them? Hell, a black Sherlock Holmes? An Asian Tarzan? A white Fu Manchu?

You want to make things as close to the books as ya can.

[lefty]

Heimdall in the comics is an alien from another planet, you fucking retard.

Still white you fucking retard

[BD24]

I see the old faggot is back, thats a shame.

[Chucho]

Oh God damnit. All the gay alts being created are passe and tired as ever, but still nothing is worse than having Avante, the non expert on everything, back. Fuckin bloody hell.

[Pavlov]

Why?

What is the reasoning in taking well know/famous literary characters and doing whatever ya want with them? Hell, a black Sherlock Holmes? An Asian Tarzan? A white Fu Manchu?

You want to make things as close to the books as ya can.True, it was critical to make Zemo as accurate as possible for the Civil War movie.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/b/bf/Baron_Heinrich_Zemo.gif

[Avante]

True, it was critical to make Zemo as accurate as possible for the Civil War movie.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/villains/images/b/bf/Baron_Heinrich_Zemo.gif

The word ..critical..is a bit much when talking movies. It's just a common sense thing. James Bond has a huge following so why use a black actor to play tHe white 007?

[Avante]

Oh God damnit. All the gay alts being created are passe and tired as ever, but still nothing is worse than having Avante, the non expert on everything, back. Fuckin bloody hell.

I have family in Northern Cali, the fires were a legit danger. There was a chance they would need some help in moving things. God did answer our prayers.

[Blake]

My argument was with the poster that has Thanos as his username. I asked him if instead of Thanos being faithfully represented (acording to the source material) in the last Avengers movie, he would have had long blonde hair and yellow skin (non character defining traits), if he would have been cool with that. And his answer implied that he obviously wasn't, so then I pointed out that preferring purple over yellow, to stay faithful to the character, is the same as preferring white over black, to stay faithful to the character.

If thanos had long blonde hair he'd probably look ridiculous.

No, preferring purple over yellow for an alien is not the same thing as preferring white over black for an English spy.

[Blake]

The word ..critical..is a bit much when talking movies. It's just a common sense thing. James Bond has a huge following so why use a black actor to play tHe white 007?

There was no way the fat fuck would be OK with this

[Avante]

There was no way the fat fuck would be OK with this

If James Bond was suppose to be an American or black that's what Fleming would have wrote. Fleming wrote about a white Brit, that is who James Bond is.

[FrostKing]

Instead of a matter of black and White, it's a matter of yellow or purple. How is that different?
Notice aliens in films don't have offspring together....

[Pavlov]

The word ..critical..is a bit much when talking movies. It's just a common sense thing. James Bond has a huge following so why use a black actor to play tHe white 007?Why does Bond have to be white in 2020?

[FrostKing]

Why?

What is the reasoning in taking well know/famous literary characters and doing whatever ya want with them? Hell, a black Sherlock Holmes? An Asian Tarzan? A white Fu Manchu?

You want to make things as close to the books as ya can.
Equality means equality.

They have come to rewrite your history, steal your heritage and impregnate your daughter.

[Trey Gowdy]

Equality means equality.

They have come to rewrite your history, steal your heritage and impregnate your daughter.

After the white man did all that first. You can dish it out but you can’t take it, faggot.

[Blake]

Notice aliens in films don't have offspring together....

Huh?

[Blake]

If James Bond was suppose to be an American or black that's what Fleming would have wrote. Fleming wrote about a white Brit, that is who James Bond is.

Well now nobody will see it

[FrostKing]

After the white man did all that first. You can dish it out but you can’t take it, faggot.
Haha

I'm not defending the imperialist because they used those stolen resources to attack my people.

But those imperialist were superior and couldn't be stopped. Today it is women and/or impotent cuckolds inviting the invasion. I guess one could argue these economic migrants have outsmarted and are superior than Liberal Westerners. :bobo

[Thanos]

Notice aliens in films don't have offspring together....
Uh, that happens in movies all the time, you fucking retard :lol

[Avante]

Why does Bond have to be white in 2020?

Why does Santa Claus have to be white in 2020? Why does James Patterson's Alex Cross have to be black in 2020? Why does Sax Rohmers Fu Manchu have to be Asian in 2020? Why does Doc Savage have to white in 2020?

[Avante]

Equality means equality.

They have come to rewrite your history, steal your heritage and impregnate your daughter.

Who is they?

[FrostKing]

Who is they?
Running backs

[Holden_Caulfield]

TV made Jimmy Olson black
looks so weird. some tall skinny bald dude is jimmy olson :lol

[SpursforSix]

Why does Santa Claus have to be white in 2020? Why does James Patterson's Alex Cross have to be black in 2020? Why does Sax Rohmers Fu Manchu have to be Asian in 2020? Why does Doc Savage have to white in 2020?

Just don’t let fucking Tom Cruise play...Jack Reacher...right?

[Avante]

Running backs

Running backs?

[DAF86]

No, preferring purple over yellow for an alien is not the same thing as preferring white over black for an English spy.

How come?

[FrostKing]

Running backs?
Blacks are 40 yard dash runners not actors, am I right?

[Reck]

Thanos changed colors like 3 times between movies. just an fyi.

[FrostKing]

https://nexter.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/idris-elba-james-bond-funny-roles-pics2.jpg

[Avante]

Just don’t let fucking Tom Cruise play...Jack Reacher...right?

If you have read the books (over 20 ) you have gotten use to the size of Reacher being a huge factor in developing the character. In the newest Reacher novel (The Midnight Line) he is referred to as Big Foot and The Hulk.

Jimmy the Rat calling his boss to warn him that Reacher is on his way..."This guiy is like Big Foot come out of the forest. Heads up, OK?"

That sort of thing is all over the books. Tom Cruise a Big Foot?

[Avante]

Blacks are 40 yard dash runners not actors, am I right?

Christian McCaffrey is a white running back as was Dickie Post, Paul Hornung while Wesley Snipes, Samuel L. Jackson, Denzel Washington are black actors. You might want to re-think that.

[FrostKing]

Christian McCaffrey is a white running back as was Dickie Post, Paul Hornung while Wesley Snipes, Samuel L. Jackson, Denzel Washington are black actors. You might want to re-think that.

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/fr2db/imageproxy.php?url=http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/st00ffer/jamesbondgoesretard.jpg

[Avante]

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/fr2db/imageproxy.php?url=http://i372.photobucket.com/albums/oo161/st00ffer/jamesbondgoesretard.jpg


Relax my friend, you're trying way too hard.

[Pavlov]

Why does Santa Claus have to be white in 2020? Why does James Patterson's Alex Cross have to be black in 2020? Why does Sax Rohmers Fu Manchu have to be Asian in 2020? Why does Doc Savage have to white in 2020?You didn't answer the question, Avante.

Why does Bond have to be white in 2020?

[spurraider21]

Why?

What is the reasoning in taking well know/famous literary characters and doing whatever ya want with them? Hell, a black Sherlock Holmes? An Asian Tarzan? A white Fu Manchu?

You want to make things as close to the books as ya can.
at least they nailed jack reacher

[Avante]

You didn't answer the question, Avante.

Why does Bond have to be white in 2020?

What difference does the year make? Isn't James Bond a white Brit?

[Pavlov]

What difference does the year make? Isn't James Bond a white Brit?He's a Brit. There's nothing in the movies these days requiring him to be white.

M was a woman for ten years.

[Avante]

at least they nailed jack reacher

There isn't one of the Reacher Novels where the fact he's 6-5 250 isn't mentioned. That is Tom Cruise?

[Avante]

He's a Brit. There's nothing in the movies these days requiring him to be white.

M was a woman for ten years.

You didn't answer my question, is James Bond a white Brit or not? I didn't say anything about the movies?

[Pavlov]

You didn't answer my question, is James Bond a white Brit or not? I didn't say anything about the movies?We've been talking about movies the entire time, Avante.

That's what the thread is about.

[Avante]

We've been talking about movies the entire time, Avante.

That's what the thread is about.

I know and the movie is about a literary character. In the books which without them there would be no James Bond. wasn't he a white Brit? Yes he was.


So give me one good reason why we need to go away from who James Bond actually is to something he isn't, well?

[Pavlov]

I know and the movie is about a literary character. In the books which without them there would be no James Bond. wasn't he a white Brit? Yes he was.


So give me one good reason why we need to go away from who James Bond actually is to something he isn't, well?There's no need for fictional characters of any kind.

There's nothing so important about Bond's race that he must always be white, just like there was nothing so important about M's gender that the character had to be male.

[Avante]

There's no need for fictional characters of any kind.

There's nothing so important about Bond's race that he must always be white, just like there was nothing so important about M's gender that the character had to be male.

So blacks would be cool with making Shaft, John Henry, Jackie Brown, Apollo Creed white? A Chinese Zorro? How about Thor, Hercules, Achilles Mexican?

[Pavlov]

So blacks would be cool with making Shaft, John Henry, Jackie Brown, Apollo Creed white? A Chinese Zorro? How about Thor, Hercules, Achilles Mexican?lol why are you trying to change the subject?

There's nothing so important about Bond's race that he must always be white, just like there was nothing so important about M's gender that the character had to be male.

Pretty simple.

[Avante]

lol why are you trying to change the subject?

There's nothing so important about Bond's race that he must always be white, just like there was nothing so important about M's gender that the character had to be male.

Pretty simple.

Changing the subject or just giving you examples of just ridiculous it is to make the white James Bond a black guy?

James Bond is white. What about that don't you understand? He didn't have a black mom or dad.

So give me one good reason to have a black James Bond?

So according to you the next James Bond could be a Mexican, then the next James Bond a Chinamen, right? So just do whatever ya want with him, hell....a Texan....right?

[Pavlov]

Changing the subject or just giving you examples of just ridiculous it is to make the white James Bond a black guy?You're changing the subject.


James Bond is white. What about that don't you understand? He didn't have a black mom or dad.

So give me one good reason to have a black James Bond?

So according to you the next James Bond could be a Mexican, then the next James Bond a Chinamen, right? So just do whatever ya want with him, hell....a Texan....right?Nah, we've discussed this already. He's British, so south Asian or black would be completely plausible these days given the demographics.

You can't come up with a good reason why he must be white forever.

[Avante]

You're changing the subject.

Nah, we've discussed this already. He's British, so south Asian or black would be completely plausible these days given the demographics.

You can't come up with a good reason why he must be white forever.

Just because you don't understand how examples work doesn't make it changing the subject.

It's on you to give a good reason why we need a black James Bond when it's a known fact nobody in his family has any African roots. So we need a black James Bond because......?

[Pavlov]

Just because you don't understand how examples work doesn't make it changing the subject.Of course it's changing the subject. Those are different characters.


It's on you to give a good reason why we need a black James Bond when it's a known fact nobody in his family has any African roots.:lol known fact for fictional characters.

There isn't any real continuity when the character is rebooted, so his parents can easily be of African descent.

[Avante]

Of course it's changing the subject. Those are different characters.

:lol known fact for fictional characters.

There isn't any real continuity when the character is rebooted, so his parents can easily be of African descent.

Not even remotely close to changing the subject. Your ignorance of what an example is about is on full display here.

You don't appear to understand that fictious or not all literary characters have a history. Bonds dad was named Andrew and his mom was Monique, they were white. I hate to break it to ya like this but you just can't ignore what any myth, cartoon, literary character, comic book hero. fable, is about. It simply doesn't work that way, but not surprised that you can't seem to figure this out.


Superman was from Kryton, Conan was a Cimmerian, Tarzan lived in the jungles, Thor was from Asgard, you don't just......ah the hell with all that they are alll from Houston now.

James Bond had white parents everybody knows that. So all of a sudden he doesn't? You can't be serious.

[Pavlov]

James Bond had white parents everybody knows that. So all of a sudden he doesn't? You can't be serious.Sure, that can easily be part of the reboot. His parents died when he was 11 in the books so it's not like there's some crucial heritage there. Besides, they've already made Bond movies that have no elements of a Fleming story in them at all. That happened 20 years ago.

It's the movies, Avante. You have a severe lack of imagination.

[Chucho]

Sure, that can easily be part of the reboot. His parents died when he was 11 in the books so it's not like there's some crucial heritage there. Besides, they've already made Bond movies that have no elements of a Fleming story in them at all. That happened 20 years ago.

It's the movies, Avante. You have a severe lack of imagination.

He's old school. He doesnt believe blackey should be taking good jobs from whitey.

[Avante]

Sure, that can easily be part of the reboot. His parents died when he was 11 in the books so it's not like there's some crucial heritage there. Besides, they've already made Bond movies that have no elements of a Fleming story in them at all. That happened 20 years ago.

It's the movies, Avante. You have a severe lack of imagination.

I have a fantastic imaginaton so another wrong.

There is no logic at all in having a black James Bond especially knowing all those into the character know his history. It make absolutely no sense of any kind and everyone with common sense knows that.

[Avante]

He's old school. He doesnt believe blackey should be taking good jobs from whitey.

I'm not old school at all so wrong as usual. What I am however is a fan of literature, and not cool with Hollywood disrespecting it just to make some $$$$$.

A black Sherlock Holmes? A white Alex Cross?

I know, ya don't get it.

[Pavlov]

I have a fantastic imaginaton so another wrong.You can't imagine a black guy from Britain.


There is no logic at all in having a black James Bond especially knowing all those into the character know his history. It make absolutely no sense of any kind and everyone with common sense knows that.That's just it. All the people who know the character know that he gets rebooted and changes every few years.

Just common sense.

[Avante]

You can't imagine a black guy from Britain.

That's just it. All the people who know the character know that he gets rebooted and changes every few years.

Just common sense.

You have any idea at all how many black athletes we see from Great Britain? Ever hear of Linford Christie the 1992 Olympic 100m gold medalist? So add another wrong.


And all those who know the character know no matter what James Bond is a white Brit. Simply common sense.

Check it out.

Great Britian All Black...4x1 team

Dwain Chambers...CJ Ujah....John Regis...Linford Christie

Dude, I can't believe your ignorance.

[Pavlov]

You have any idea at all how many black athletes we see from Great Britain? Ever hear of Linford Christie the 1992 Olympic 100m gold medalist? So add another wrong.Great. Now imagine a black James Bond.



And all those who know the character know no matter what James Bond is a white Brit. Simply common sense.There's nothing that requires his being white in the movies forever. Simply common sense.

[Avante]

Great. Now imagine a black James Bond.


There's nothing that requires his being white in the movies forever. Simply common sense.

Lets cool the....great now imagine a black James Bond...and try....ok so I was wrong, I didn't know all that.

And yes there is something that requires that James Bond be white in the movies, his inventor made him white. Hollywood isn't in charge of who he is, hell they have cavemen fighting dinosaurs.

No movie will change the fact that James Bond is a white Brit. And only a fool wouldn't understand that.

[Pavlov]

Lets cool the....great now imagine a black James Bond...and try....ok so I was wrong, I didn't know all that.So you can't imagine a black James Bond.

You have no imagination. At all.


And yes there is something that requires that James Bond be white in the movies, his inventor made him white. Hollywood isn't in charge of who he is, hell they have cavemen fighting dinosaurs.Actually EON Productions and MGM are in charge of who he is in the movies.


No movie will change the fact that James Bond is a white Brit. And only a fool wouldn't understand that.Unless he's rebooted as something other than white. Use your imagination.

[Avante]

So you can't imagine a black James Bond.

You have no imagination. At all.

Actually EON Productions and MGM are in charge of who he is in the movies.

Unless he's rebooted as something other than white. Use your imagination.

So you knew nothing at all about all those black athletes from Great Britian? Never heard of boxer Frank Bruno? I could fill 8 lanes using black British sprinters. So I'll accept your....ok ok I was wrong you do know about black Brits.

It's never been about imigination it's always been about just who is James Bond. As we all know he is a white guy from Great Britian. Simply common sense my man, that is why you are struggling so badly with this.

Reboot? Dude, you mean bull shit? James Bond is a white Brit, it has nothing to do with imagination, rebooth, who has the rights. it's all about respecting the Ian Fleming creation. And if you did possess any common sense you'd understand that.

[Pavlov]

So you knew nothing at all about all those black athletes from Great Britian? Never heard of boxer Frank Bruno? I could fill 8 lanes using black British sprinters. So I'll accept your....ok ok I was wrong you do know about black Brits.

It's never been about imigination it's always been about just who is James Bond. As we all know he is a white guy from Great Britian. Simply common sense my man, that is why you are struggling so badly with this.

Reboot? Dude, you mean bull shit? James Bond is a white Brit, it has nothing to do with imagination, rebooth, who has the rights. it's all about respecting the Ian Fleming creation. And if you did possess any common sense you'd understand that.lol dude's dead.

He doesn't give a shit.

You have zero imagination.

Same old listbot.

[Avante]

lol dude's dead.

He doesn't give a shit.

You have zero imagination.

Same old listbot.

So you take a dead mans most famous creation and totally disrespect it?

I have a great imigination and also know all about black Brits.

Same old lack of common sense and foolishness displayed by you.

So you really thought a big track fan like myself wouldn;t know about all those black athletes over there, really?

What you do that is funny is ya always ignore when you goof up and ya always try to talk about the other guy, it's funny watching you.

[Avante]

The bottom line is this.

Anytime ya deal with historical persons rather real or fictious you must stay with reality. You cannot just make stuff up to satisfy yourself. Sure Batman, Superman, Thor, The Hulk, Jack Reacher, Dave Robicheaux, Casper the Ghost are fiction but they still have a history. You can't just do whatever you want to do.

Robert E. Howards Conan was born on a battlefield, he lived in Cimmeria. He was big and strong, and was fearful of magic, his God was Crom. He was a man of few words he was more about action. You don't ignore all that so you can make a movie. Conan isn't black, there were no blacks in Cimmeria they lived in Kush.

In the world of the sword & sorcery novel it gets no bigger than the 12 books Robert E. Howard wrote about his barbaric hero, you don't mess with this. it's too big. Far bigger than some movie.

King Kong survives the planes and crawls down off the Empire State Building, hell why not....right? The last we hear he and Ann are living happily back on Skull Island.

[140]

Old fatass racist pedo is all that was missing ITT :lmao

[Olongapo Teen Girl]

The bottom line is this.

Anytime ya deal with historical persons rather real or fictious you must stay with reality. You cannot just make stuff up to satisfy yourself. Sure Batman, Superman, Thor, The Hulk, Jack Reacher, Dave Robicheaux, Casper the Ghost are fiction but they still have a history. You can't just do whatever you want to do.

Robert E. Howards Conan was born on a battlefield, he lived in Cimmeria. He was big and strong, and was fearful of magic, his God was Crom. He was a man of few words he was more about action. You don't ignore all that so you can make a movie. Conan isn't black, there were no blacks in Cimmeria they lived in Kush.

In the world of the sword & sorcery novel it gets no bigger than the 12 books Robert E. Howard wrote about his barbaric hero, you don't mess with this. it's too big. Far bigger than some movie.

King Kong survives the planes and crawls down off the Empire State Building, hell why not....right? The last we hear he and Ann are living happily back on Skull Island.

EVERYONE SAVE ME FROM THIS EVIL MAN!

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCKQp1sGVRQ

[Blake]

No, preferring purple over yellow for an alien is not the same thing as preferring white over black for an English spy.


How come?

Because purple and highlighter yellow are made up colors for skin. It's only the comic book geeks that would get mad.

Preferring black over white for a character like Bond riles up snowflakes but Elba works without having to suspend disbelief or change the narrative.

If you want a white or Asian black panther, you either have to beg for suspension of disbelief or you have to spend story time explaining how a white/Asian guy grew up in a tribe in Africa.

[SpursforSix]

EVERYONE SAVE ME FROM THIS EVIL MAN!

I think you should have been more subtle. Like maybe go with "Yung Su". And then ease into it.

[BD24]

I think you should have been more subtle. Like maybe go with "Yung Su". And then ease into it.
Yea the troll has potentional, the execution is kind of shit at the moment.

could have been babysan. Then started from there

[Avante]

I do get a kick out of all the silliness. It goes good with my morning coffee, puts a grin on my face.

[Pavlov]

So you take a dead mans most famous creation and totally disrespect it?How is changing a character to African descent disrespectful? Pretty racist of you.


I have a great imigination and also know all about black Brits.Yet you can't even "imigine" a black Bond.


Same old lack of common sense and foolishness displayed by you.

So you really thought a big track fan like myself wouldn;t know about all those black athletes over there, really?

What you do that is funny is ya always ignore when you goof up and ya always try to talk about the other guy, it's funny watching you.lol you always make an irrelevant list about track and field or music.

This has nothing to do with either.


The bottom line is this.

Anytime ya deal with historical persons rather real or fictious you must stay with reality. You cannot just make stuff up to satisfy yourself. Sure Batman, Superman, Thor, The Hulk, Jack Reacher, Dave Robicheaux, Casper the Ghost are fiction but they still have a history. You can't just do whatever you want to do.

Robert E. Howards Conan was born on a battlefield, he lived in Cimmeria. He was big and strong, and was fearful of magic, his God was Crom. He was a man of few words he was more about action. You don't ignore all that so you can make a movie. Conan isn't black, there were no blacks in Cimmeria they lived in Kush.

In the world of the sword & sorcery novel it gets no bigger than the 12 books Robert E. Howard wrote about his barbaric hero, you don't mess with this. it's too big. Far bigger than some movie.

King Kong survives the planes and crawls down off the Empire State Building, hell why not....right? The last we hear he and Ann are living happily back on Skull Island.You do know they just rebooted King Kong last year.

He doesn't even go to New York.

It was quite a successful movie.

lol

[DAF86]

Because purple and highlighter yellow are made up colors for skin. It's only the comic book geeks that would get mad.

Preferring black over white for a character like Bond riles up snowflakes but Elba works without having to suspend disbelief or change the narrative.

If you want a white or Asian black panther, you either have to beg for suspension of disbelief or you have to spend story time explaining how a white/Asian guy grew up in a tribe in Africa.

In movies, and books, and comic-books, and any fictional form of entertainment, a purple coloured skin is just as normal as black and white. Fans don't care if purple isn't a real life skin colour, they want Thanos to be purple (or pink, or blueish, or something similar to that) because that's how the character was represented throughout his entire existence. The same thing happens on this case, some lifelong James Bond's fans might prefer for that character to be white because that's how he was represented since he was invented; and these fans should be allowed to express this feeling without having dumbfucks jumping out and calling them racists.

I'm not an idiot, I know that a lot of people that whine about shit like this is because they are indeed racists fucks, but there are a lot of other people (like myself) that aren't. And we shouldn't restrain ourselves from expressing our opinion just out of fear of being called racists.

[SpursforSix]

I do get a kick out of all the silliness. It goes good with my morning coffee, puts a grin on my face.

Bend over, I'll fucking put a grin on your face.

[SpursforSix]

You do know they just rebooted King Kong last year.

He doesn't even go to New York.

It was quite a successful movie.

lol

But would it have been successful if King Kong was a giant polar bear?

[Pavlov]

But would it have been successful if King Kong was a giant polar bear?Oh, you think blacks are a different species. That explains everything.

[Avante]

Bend over, I'll fucking put a grin on your face.

Never have understood where you ever thought that ..bend over.....thing did anything other than make you look immature. What is the motivation there?

[Avante]

But would it have been successful if King Kong was a giant polar bear?

King Kong was a movie, there was no book. He was a Hollywood creation so they can do whatever they want.

There is a book but it's based on the movie.

[Pavlov]

King Kong survives the planes and crawls down off the Empire State Building, hell why not....right? The last we hear he and Ann are living happily back on Skull Island.


King Kong was a movie, there was no book. He was a Hollywood creation so they can do whatever they want.

There is a book but it's based on the movie.Immediate backtracking.

[Avante]

Let me make this clear....

Bond being anything but white is wrong, it doesn't matter if he's black, Asian a Mexican, an Iranian, if he isn't a white Brit it's wrong.

[Pavlov]

Let me make this clear....

Bond being anything but white is wrong, it doesn't matter if he's black, Asian a Mexican, an Iranian, if he isn't a white Brit it's wrong.What makes him have to be white in a movie set in 2020?

[Avante]

Immediate backtracking.

Wrong as usual.

Who wrote King Kong? Who was his creator, well?

[Avante]

What makes him have to be white in a movie set in 2020?

James Bond is James Bond in 2050. Time has nothing to do with identity.

Those who have read all the novels aren't going to be cool with it

I need a legit answer here, ok?

Give me one good reason to have a black James Bond, why?

[FrostKing]

Question

People that enjoy films/TV shows with black leads. Do you also listen to Rap/R&B?

[Pavlov]

James Bond is James Bond in 2050. Time has nothing to do with identity.

Those who have read all the novels aren't going to be cool with itWhy?

I need a legit answer here, ok?

[Pavlov]

Question

People that enjoy films/TV shows with black leads. Do you also listen to Rap/R&B?Wait -- you can't enjoy any show if it has black leads?

[Spurminator]

Question

People that enjoy films/TV shows with black leads. Do you also listen to Rap/R&B?

Not exclusively, on either. I don't even really understand how "enjoying films/TV shows with black leads" is a litmus for anything. It would be kind of weird to say you don't watch, or don't enjoy, those things if there's a black lead.

[Avante]

Question

People that enjoy films/TV shows with black leads. Do you also listen to Rap/R&B?

I grew up around blacks, the first thing I noticed as a little kid was the big difference in speed and agility. And I was fast for a white guy. Just not black fast.
Then here came Howlin' Woll, John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters, yep, them blues. No white guys sounded like that. Then ya turn on the TV and there is big Jim Brown running over around and away from white guys. I;m not even 13 years old yet.

I own all them old blues from the 20's and 30's. Own tons of books by black authors like Richard Wright, James Baldwin, Ralph Ellison etc. The Paul Robeson Story a must read as is Louis Arnstrongs SATCHMO.

Don't watch movies because of black actors. But do enjoy movies about the black experience.

[Avante]

Why?

I need a legit answer here, ok?

James Bond is white not black, that is the answer. You cannot change who anyone is because of some movie.

[FrostKing]

Wait -- you can't enjoy any show if it has black leads?
I personally would find Arabic music or TV difficult to enjoy. But I know a growing percentage of Americans consume black culture



Not exclusively, on either. I don't even really understand how "enjoying films/TV shows with black leads" is a litmus for anything. It would be kind of weird to say you don't watch those things if there's a black lead.
After spending 6 weeks in a country with no black advertisement, no black music/tv and barely any on the street (maybe saw 10 or so), I am finding black culture difficult to consume. It is so foreign to me, like Arabic. The way they speak, their clothing, their mannerisms. So exotic.

[TimmyBuckets]

Jesus

[Pavlov]

I personally would find Arabic music or TV difficult to enjoy. But I know a growing percentage of Americans consume black cultureYou didn't answer my question.

You can't enjoy any show if it has black leads?

[Spurminator]

After spending 6 weeks in a country with no black advertisement, no black music/tv and barely any on the street (maybe saw 10 or so), I am finding black culture difficult to consume. It is so foreign to me, like Arabic. The way they speak, their clothing, their mannerisms. So exotic.

How was Antarctica?

[FrostKing]

How was Antarctica?
Hahah!

Central Europe

[CitizenDwayne]

I know hell’s freezing over, I actually find myself agreeing with avante

[Blake]

James Bond is James Bond in 2050. Time has nothing to do with identity.


What if all the white people of the world are nuked in 2049?

[Avante]

What if all the white people of the world are nuked in 2049?

There goes bluegrass, country, punk, heavy metal, slow unathletic QB's.

[Trill Clinton]

Damn avante is back

[Trill Clinton]

Question

People that enjoy films/TV shows with black leads. Do you also listen to Rap/R&B?

Yes

[Pavlov]

Yes:lol

[Avante]

Damn avante is back

We need to talk.

You do know my favorite people are black, right? I am black, what I'm doing in this white body is a mystery to me and everyone who knows me says that. I have that rhythm, I was a sprinter/RB, my fav music is them old blues. My best friends are black. My library is full of books about the black experience.

You said something about me being a racist or what was it again?

[CitizenDwayne]

Never mind, he’s still annoying as shit

[SpursforSix]

Oh, you think blacks are a different species. That explains everything.

that's a stretch...although I'm not sure...I didn't really read what the arguments were before my post.

In any event, I'd be nonplussed if they made King Kong an albino gorilla.
But make it about a giant Polar Bear...now I'm interested.

[SpursforSix]

Never have understood where you ever thought that ..bend over.....thing did anything other than make you look immature. What is the motivation there?

Bend over, I'll fucking show you motivation.

[Blake]

In movies, and books, and comic-books, and any fictional form of entertainment, a purple coloured skin is just as normal as black and white.

Yes a purple Bond would be very normal.

[lefty]

Jesus
Is black

[Blake]

The same thing happens on this case, some lifelong James Bond's fans might prefer for that character to be white because that's how he was represented since he was invented; and these fans should be allowed to express this feeling without having dumbfucks jumping out and calling them racists.

There is no logistical or necessary reason to have a white Bond. I think it's very fair to call them racist snowflakes.

[Chucho]

Is black

Nope. He's a dirty brown and looks more like the Prophet Mohammed than the Prophet Mohammed.

[Blake]

Is black

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/857245782193442817/MBD64Y3-_400x400.jpg

Fans might prefer this character to be white because that's how he was represented since he was invented

[Avante]

Bend over, I'll fucking show you motivation.

Ok, so where is that motivation lets see it.

[DAF86]

There is no logistical or necessary reason to have a white Bond. I think it's very fair to call them racist snowflakes.

There's no logistical or necessary reason to have a purple Thanos. It's just the way it is.

There's no logistical or necessary reason to have Spurs colours as black, white and silver, but if someone were to change those colours we would all raise in protest.

[Chucho]

Ok, so where is that motivation lets see it.

That's actually funny.

[Avante]

Where does it stop after a black James Bond?

A white The Black Panther?

Elric of Melniborne is a white albino (think Johnny Winter) a black Elric?

A short Chinaman as Hercules?

A Mexican as SHAFT?

[Avante]

Louis L'Amour is the dean of the western writer, he writes about The Sackett Family. And yes there have been movies. Noway in hell you can use black actors there.

James Lee Burke writes about a Louisiana detective named Dave Robicieax, and yes there have been movies. Tommy Lee Jones played the part in one. This is not a role for a black actor simply common sense.

[SpursforSix]

Where does it stop after a black James Bond?

A white The Black Panther?

Elric of Melniborne is a white albino (think Johnny Winter) a black Elric?

A short Chinaman as Hercules?

A Mexican as SHAFT?

Economics would dictate that none of those will happen.

[Pavlov]

Where does it stop after a black James Bond?

A white The Black Panther?

Elric of Melniborne is a white albino (think Johnny Winter) a black Elric?

A short Chinaman as Hercules?

A Mexican as SHAFT?No, it can stop with a black James Bond if it hurts you that much.

[Pavlov]

Louis L'Amour is the dean of the western writer, he writes about The Sackett Family. And yes there have been movies. Noway in hell you can use black actors there.But you can with James Bond in 2020.

[Avante]

Economics would dictate that none of those will happen.

Prove that.

[Pavlov]

Prove that.Black Panther has black in his name.

Nobody wants an Elric movie.

The last Hercules and Shaft movies were flops.

Pretty easy.

[Avante]

No, it can stop with a black James Bond if it hurts you that much.

Whoa whoa whoa, there it is again.....if it hurts you. Why do you do that? What is with all that....you?

Well? Now answer the question, ok?

[Spurminator]

There's that Black Panther comparison again.

Ironically, it says something that there are so few black leading roles in movie history that all anyone can come up is Black Panther or Shaft.

[Pavlov]

Whoa whoa whoa, there it is again.....if it hurts you. Why do you do that? What is with all that....you?

Well? Now answer the question, ok?I already did.

You are obviously hurt.

The mere thought of a black man playing Bond is killing you.

And yeah, it can stop there since your other examples are shit.

[SpursforSix]

Prove that.

I can't prove it. It's common sense.

Although I could actually see some kind of Hercules reboot with Jackie Chan.

[SpursforSix]

There's that Black Panther comparison again.

Ironically, it says something that there are so few black leading roles in movie history that all anyone can come up is Black Panther or Shaft.

why is that ironic?

[Avante]

Black Panther has black in his name.

Nobody wants an Elric movie.

The last Hercules and Shaft movies were flops.

Pretty easy.

Didn't you talk about nothing really matters with fictional characters? Sure ya did.

Everybody who knows the Elric saga wants the movie, so wrong as usual.

So how much profit did the last Hercules/Shaft make?

[Avante]

I can't prove it. It's common sense.

Although I could actually see some kind of Hercules reboot with Jackie Chan.

Bend over and I'll show you some common sense.

[SpursforSix]

Didn't you talk about nothing really matters with fictional characters? Sure ya did.

Everybody who knows the Elric saga wants the movie, so wrong as usual.

So how much profit did the last Hercules/Shaft make?

off the top of my head...Shaft made a little over 100 million.
Hercules...probably a quarter billion.

[Pavlov]

Didn't you talk about nothing really matters with fictional characters? Sure ya did.

Everybody who knows the Elric saga wants the movie, so wrong as usual.I don't. I read all the books.

Pretty dreary.

[SpursforSix]

Bend over and I'll show you some common sense.

there you go...sort of.

[Pavlov]

off the top of my head...Shaft made a little over 100 million.
Hercules...probably a quarter billion.Yeah, I can't say what the profit is. That's gross.

There is another Shaft movie on the way.

But a black Samoan Hercules movie looks like it made a lot of money.

Point taken.

[Avante]

I already did.

You are obviously hurt.

The mere thought of a black man playing Bond is killing you.

And yeah, it can stop there since your other examples are shit.


No you didn't so why lie?

The mere thought of a 5-5 James Bond, a 6-6 James Bond, a Texan drawl, a fat James Bond is wrong. Black is a total nothing here, anything not who he really is is what is being talked about on my behalf.

I need the real deal. Not some fake Jmes Bond.

[Olongapo Teen Girl]

Where does it stop after a black James Bond?

A white The Black Panther?

Elric of Melniborne is a white albino (think Johnny Winter) a black Elric?

A short Chinaman as Hercules?

A Mexican as SHAFT?
A legally aged female that you put your gropey hands all over.

[Spurminator]

why is that ironic?

Because the people complaining about a black man being cast in a historically white leading role are kind of making the case for it.