Dejounte Murray Injury Thread

[DJR210]

You mean NBA purgatory doesn't interest you?

Can't have both my teams in purgatory at the same time.

[bklynspursfan]

Duncan would have grabbed the rebound. It clearly went to the PF/C spot. Instead we had someone like Manu trying to body up Bosh down there. That's why. The Cavs weren't smart enough to ID Duncan's man and put him in a PnR with RayRay or LeBron (LeBron would have missed with Duncan guarding him anyway :lol).

Diaw (the Center) was at the 3 point line trying to contest Lebron's 3, which is exactly where Duncan would've been. Bosh was at the 3 point line and set the screen (albeit weak) for Lebron, then rolled down which is why he got the board.

[DJR210]

Dear God shut the fuck up about 2013. Our PG just tore his ACL.

[Chinook]

Duncan would have grabbed the rebound. It clearly went to the PF/C spot. Instead we had someone like Manu trying to body up Bosh down there. That's why. The Cavs weren't smart enough to ID Duncan's man and put him in a PnR with RayRay or LeBron (LeBron would have missed with Duncan guarding him anyway :lol).

The Heat were actually a very well-coached team. Spo is among the best in the league, and Riley still had his hand in there. The play would have turned out differently had Duncan been in there. He would have been on the perimeter trying to catch up to someone getting a wide-open three. Pop didn't start taking out Duncan for no reason. Tim just couldn't be counted on to keep up with guys behind the arc. Pop took Tim out against GS that year too, and Diaw was able to move his feet well and contest Curry's shot. Same with Splitter against Conley in the WCF.

[phxspurfan]

Dear God shut the fuck up about 2013. Our PG just tore his ACL.

Think of the children!

[Chinook]

Dear God shut the fuck up about 2013. Our PG just tore his ACL.

I hear that if we're sad enough about it, it makes the knee heal faster.

Let us wallow in old misery to avoid having to deal with fresh pain, man.

[phxspurfan]

Aw fucking hell. This was Murray's season to explode now. You could tell he has been working his ass off on his jumper, it has looked so much better. :pctoss

I don't see how this team avoids the lottery now with no defense in the backcourt. God damn it, what a disaster.

You think PATFO looks to trade DeRozan now/before the deadline?




Btw good thing I didn't buy LP yet lol. saving myself 300 bucks.

[KDKSpurs24]

If Mario Chalmers is truly healthy then he may be the best fit to help this team currently. Out of those available point guards.

[bklynspursfan]

They *would have had* 82 games to get those reps. Plus practice. No need to go balls to the wall against the 500 3 shooting Rockettes in the preseason. No reason at all. I saw even DeMar played 30+ minutes that night. Like Wtf.

82 games and people would be on here fussing and whining about the lack of chemistry by January. This is basically a brand new team. Do you think they should just not play in the pre-season by that logic? Like forfeit or only let the camp invites play?

DD played a lot cause he was scoring well, and I'm sure Pop wanted him to get comfortable with his teammates.

And also this:

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People complain Pop doesn't change and is stuck in his ways, and when he tries a new approach (a scientific approach, like many teams go off of), there's still complaints.

[SAGirl]

In other news

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Surprised about this frankly I thought he had a chance at the 2way deal. Considering the timing of this, perhaps Blossomgame is the one who should have been praying all guards stayed healthy and instead two of them are gone this season, (I know Walker just for a portion but it’s still a big portion), poof! His chances evaporated. Perhaps PATFO will look for guard depth

[Hoops Czar]

Isn't Ty Lawson also available. Or Isaiah Thomas or some shit

Ty Lawson is a cancer, Thomas is injured with no timetable for a return and while some shit is available, with Potty and Forbes on the rosterr, I doubt the Spurs would go that route. It's not prudent to pile shit on top of shit.

[DJR210]

When it comes to ACL's, to be somewhat positive you have to think of the instances where players have been able to return and play at the same level as before..

You have guys like Baron Davis, Jamal Crawford, Kyle Lowry, who were able to come back after the surgery and retain their mobility.. Al Jefferson also, although his game was never dependent on quickness..

Worst case scenario, you got this guy:

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[Hoops Czar]

If I were Murray, I'd be asking for a second opinion.

[DJR210]

For any of my San Antonio residents who wanna join me.. We've already had one suicide today at the 410/I-10 interchange (maybe he was an MRI tech and spurs fan working at the team doctors office) so if you would like to get together and add a few more to the list LMK

[baseline bum]

God damn it with that 2013 take. Duncan gave up a three on almost the exact same situation the very next year. The plan should have just been to immediately tackle Bosh if he got the board. Second-guessing Pop not going for a foul is fine. No reason to second-guess why he didn't have a slow defender out on the perimeter against five three-point shooters. Shit, are you going to ask why he doesn't have Pau in during end-of-game situations too?

Wait, what thread is this?

Yeah god I'm sick of hearing that shit. Having Tim Duncan out chasing three point shooters when Miami was 100% forced into shooting threes would have been retarded.

[TimDunkem]

^Sign me up, fam.

[baseline bum]

When it comes to ACL's, to be somewhat positive you have to think of the instances where players have been able to return and play at the same level as before..

You have guys like Baron Davis, Jamal Crawford, Kyle Lowry, who were able to come back after the surgery and retain their mobility.. Al Jefferson also, although his game was never dependent on quickness..

Worst case scenario, you got this guy:

https://www.nba.com/dam/assets/131005232308-derrick-rose-iso-100513.1280x720.jpg

Gangster Disciple tore his MCL at the same time though.

[baseline bum]

You think PATFO looks to trade DeRozan now/before the deadline?




Btw good thing I didn't buy LP yet lol. saving myself 300 bucks.

No reason to dump DeRozan for pennies on the dollar. They're going to get a lottery pick out of this season anyways. I can't see any way the team makes the playoffs in a conference with Curry, CP3, Lollard, Westbrook, and Holiday in it with absolutely zero perimeter defense now.

[bklynspursfan]

No reason to dump DeRozan for pennies on the dollar. They're going to get a lottery pick out of this season anyways. I can't see any way the team makes the playoffs in a conference with Curry, CP3, Lollard, Westbrook, and Holiday in it with absolutely zero perimeter defense now.

Our offense has to be pretty damned good. I think they'll make it

[phxspurfan]

Yeah god I'm sick of hearing that shit. Having Tim Duncan out chasing three point shooters when Miami was 100% forced into shooting threes would have been retarded.

You're not chasing 3 point shooters when LeBroom clanks one off the rim and Duncan grabs the rebound, securing the bag.

[bklynspursfan]

You're not chasing 3 point shooters when LeBroom clanks one off the rim and Duncan grabs the rebound, securing the bag.

Watch the play again and see where Diaw was. That's exactly where TD would've been

[phxspurfan]

Watch the play again and see where Diaw was. That's exactly where TD would've been

TD was smarter than Diaw. He would have ID that pick and stayed home, daring LeBroom to clank that step back 3, thus securing the bag.

[Chinook]

It's amazing that people think so highly of Murray that the team should tank without him, but then they overlook at the team got Murray at 29. They got Walker at 18. The fuck is the point in tanking if they don't need to do so to find "stars"? It was one thing when it was just Leonard. But at this point, it kinda seems like they'll be fine in the talent department if you just STFU and let them do their thing.

[kobyz]

TD was smarter than Diaw. He would have ID that pick and stayed home, daring LeBroom to clank that step back 3, thus securing the bag.
Your all dumb as fuck, all spurs needed to do is to foul lebron while bringing up the ball and win title, why give them opportunity for a 3?

[weeks]

It's amazing that people think so highly of Murray that the team should tank without him, but then they overlook at the team got Murray at 29. They got Walker at 18. The fuck is the point in tanking if they don't need to do so to find "stars"? It was one thing when it was just Leonard. But at this point, it kinda seems like they'll be fine in the talent department if you just STFU and let them do their thing.

pretty good point, tho walker's health remains to be seen

[rjv]

It's amazing that people think so highly of Murray that the team should tank without him, but then they overlook at the team got Murray at 29. They got Walker at 18. The fuck is the point in tanking if they don't need to do so to find "stars"? It was one thing when it was just Leonard. But at this point, it kinda seems like they'll be fine in the talent department if you just STFU and let them do their thing.

[bklynspursfan]

It's amazing that people think so highly of Murray that the team should tank without him, but then they overlook at the team got Murray at 29. They got Walker at 18. The fuck is the point in tanking if they don't need to do so to find "stars"? It was one thing when it was just Leonard. But at this point, it kinda seems like they'll be fine in the talent department if you just STFU and let them do their thing.

Exactly

[Hoops Czar]

It's amazing that people think so highly of Murray that the team should tank without him, but then they overlook at the team got Murray at 29. They got Walker at 18. The fuck is the point in tanking if they don't need to do so to find "stars"? It was one thing when it was just Leonard. But at this point, it kinda seems like they'll be fine in the talent department if you just STFU and let them do their thing.

I don't think it's that anyone thinks so highly of Murray, it's more than likely people think even less of Forbes and Paddy who could only dream about being a first round draft pick.

[acoelho1]

We are clearly not going to be as dangerous without Murray no matter how you want to spin it. Sure, the Spurs have shown the ability to get a good return on late first round picks but it doesn't mean they wouldn't have a better chance to get a star player at a higher draft slot. Now if they got a combination of a young prospect with star potential and draft picks, why not give up Aldridge. Plus, everything had to break our way to be elite but short of the Warriors this year and Murray was going to be the head of that snake with his toughness and tenacity. Now it's left to Aldridge & DeRozan who have disappeared in big moments. I hope at least Walker is able to come back and crack the rotation. He showed although small sample size, he has the tools to be a star.

[Keepin' it real]

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Rest is for the regular season, especially nationally televised games. :pop:

[kobyz]

Could he be ready for the playoff?

[weeks]

Could he be ready for the playoff?
murray strikes me as the kind of kid that if he can possibly get healthy enough to play, he'll push to do so
you think pop would let him advance a timetable though?

[Mugen]

Neither Dejounte or Lonnie should play a second in this upcoming season tbh, but with this great medical staff who knows :lmao

[Chinook]

I don't think it's that anyone thinks so highly of Murray, it's more than likely people think even less of Forbes and Paddy who could only dream about being a first round draft pick.

You really should pay more attention then. Some people (a whole lot of people, actually) think Murray's in the top three most important players and a defensive star who was poised to make a leap on offense. They certainly think Forbes and Mills are worse, but they also think Murray is really good.

[gambit1990]

i missed it but from what i read on twitter i could imagine it being an acl injury.
the news sucks.

[Chinook]

Neither Dejounte or Lonnie should play a second in this upcoming season tbh, but with this great medical staff who knows :lmao

Walker is supposed to be out two months. Why the shit would he not play?

[BillMc]

Rest is for the regular season, especially nationally televised games. :pop:
:rollin

[gambit1990]

will be harder to the make the POs... forbes will definitely get more PT. hopefully pop won't have he and patty on the court at the same time... but i'm sure he will :rolleyes

[Leetonidas]

Walker is supposed to be out two months. Why the shit would he not play?

You know how spurs fans are... With adversity comes the cliff jumping hot takes :lol

[dbestpro]

Blossom has been waived. Something is up.

[Mugen]

Walker is supposed to be out two months. Why the shit would he not play?

I'd probably take it real slow with a guy coming off two major knee injuries, plus I have a ton of faith in Bryn to hold it down...

[Hoops Czar]

Blossom has been waived. Something is up.
Probably making room for Jimmy Butler. I think Eubanks and a 2026 3rd rd draft pick gets it done.

[Dks291]

Standard time to recover from an acl tear is 9 months. That puts it in July, and that’s not being ready to play, it’s being able to practice and do “basketball activities.”

[Pavlov]

Blossom has been waived. Something is up.Yeah, the passage of time.

[Keepin' it real]

Probably making room for Jimmy Butler.
:stirpot:

[phxspurfan]

It's amazing that people think so highly of Murray that the team should tank without him, but then they overlook at the team got Murray at 29. They got Walker at 18. The fuck is the point in tanking if they don't need to do so to find "stars"? It was one thing when it was just Leonard. But at this point, it kinda seems like they'll be fine in the talent department if you just STFU and let them do their thing.

I don't think people are saying we're going to tank. I think people are saying we're going to legitimately lose. Imagine fucknuts Mills and Forbes out there face guarding Klay and Curry, or Lollard and McCollum, or even Rondo and Ball. Pretty sure Ball went off for career highs against those guys even last season lol


No matter how many long 2's DeRozan and Aldridge take and make, no way to make up for the chasm we have at PG

[dbestpro]

Probably making room for Jimmy Butler. I think Eubanks and a 2026 3rd rd draft pick gets it done.

That was the kind of thinking that made Lebron walk.

[RD2191]

Yeah, the passage of time.

:lol

[Chinook]

I don't think people are saying we're going to tank. I think people are saying we're going to legitimately lose. Imagine fucknuts Mills and Forbes out there face guarding Klay and Curry, or Lollard and McCollum, or even Rondo and Ball. Pretty sure Ball went off for career highs against those guys even last season lol


No matter how many long 2's DeRozan and Aldridge take and make, no way to make up for the chasm we have at PG

People saying to trade Aldridge and DeRozan are certainly advocating tanking. And no, they'll be fine. This injury takes them from a dark-horse team to a team that would need like everyone else in the league to get injured to win, but they are still better than they were last year. If they lose Aldridge or DeRozan, then we can talk.

[acoelho1]

If people don't think Murray is in the top 3 important players on the team, you must be blind. Also, given his age, I put him number 1 on the list. His development is critical to this team's future success and this injury is a huge blow.

[BillMc]

Is this injury likely to reduce DJ's long term athleticism?

[8FOR!3]

Rest is for the regular season, especially nationally televised games. :pop:

lol that's funny but I do get what message he's trying to send. He tries to make the most out of a player's longevity during the season and rest players on back to backs and etc. but at the same time he's not going to coach scared bc a couple guys got injured. Meh idk.

[gambit1990]

manu coming back would be cool. i'd rather have him over any other veteran PG i can think of that's available.

white/patty
beli/manu

when lonnie is healthy manu's role/minutes could be reduced further.

[phxspurfan]

People saying to trade Aldridge and DeRozan are certainly advocating tanking. And no, they'll be fine. This injury takes them from a dark-horse team to a team that would need like everyone else in the league to get injured to win, but they are still better than they were last year. If they lose Aldridge or DeRozan, then we can talk.

So you're saying the majority of the West's opposing backcourts won't go for 40 on us every night? Or that they won't attack our glaring weakness over and over and over and over? Or that DeRozan and Aldridge getting even 20 a night will make up for the lack of defense we will exhibit? Keep in mind other teams have deployed a strategy of outscoring their opponents (Rockettes), and the reason they can do this is they have transcendent players like Harden and CP3. Doubt even DeRozan can do what Harden does on the court, getting 50 and 10.

[John B]

manu coming back would be cool. i'd rather have him over any other veteran PG i can think of that's available.

white/patty
beli/manu

when lonnie is healthy manu's role/minutes could be reduced further.
Maybe Becky can suit up

[SAGirl]

Is this injury likely to reduce DJ's long term athleticism?
I hope not. There’s been many players to rehab successfully. Didn’t Bertans lose 2 seasons with 2 ACL tears early in his career. Long term I think he should be fine. It does rob him of one year if development at a still young age.

[superbigtime]

they don't have to try to tank. They are going to seriously suck. White isn't going to surprise anyone. He stinks. Forbes and Mills are fringe players. DeRozan gonna need to do a lot more ball handling. Anyone want to buy some tickets? shit.

[RD2191]

Spurs are fucked. This is a devastating loss for the team. I'd be surprised if they won more than 40 games this upcoming season. Losing a starter throws rotations all into whack.

[Chinook]

So you're saying the majority of the West's opposing backcourts won't go for 40 on us every night? Or that they won't attack our glaring weakness over and over and over and over? Or that DeRozan and Aldridge getting even 20 a night will make up for the lack of defense we will exhibit? Keep in mind other teams have deployed a strategy of outscoring their opponents (Rockettes), and the reason they can do this is they have transcendent players like Harden and CP3. Doubt even DeRozan can do what Harden does on the court, getting 50 and 10.

The Spurs will be fine defensively. They won't be great, but no, back courts won't be scoring 40 on them every night. The Spurs should still be a good team at defending the three too. Schematically, they're still the Spurs.

[Mugen]

I do think that it's cool that Dejounte showed up at the facility and met with his teammates the very next day.

Shows you his maturity outside of the youtube, instahoe, BS, etc.

He could have easily hid in a closet while letting his Uncle speak for him like some kind of mute faggot tbh...

[BillMc]

I hope not. There’s been many players to rehab successfully. Didn’t Bertans lose 2 seasons with 2 ACL tears early in his career. Long term I think he should be fine. It does rob him of one year if development at a still young age.

Yeah, Davis had two such injuries and it robbed him of considerable lateral quickness. Hope DJ makes a full recovery. Sometimes these are 2 year injuries. 1 year to get back on the court and an additional year to be your old self.

[RD2191]

I do think that it's cool that Dejounte showed up at the facility and met with his teammates the very next day.

Shows you his maturity outside of the youtube, instahoe, BS, etc.

He could have easily hid in a closet while letting his Uncle speak for him like some kind of mute faggot tbh...

Tbh.

[SAGirl]

The Spurs will be fine defensively. They won't be great, but no, back courts won't be scoring 40 on them every night. The Spurs should still be a good team at defending the three too. Schematically, they're still the Spurs.
They will miss him (and the others gone too) but especially him now that others are gone. I don’t think they will be helpless but definitely not as good as they could have been. Execution from limited personnel just won’t be the same.

I still expect them to make the playoffs but the game just got a lot harder for them.

[SAGirl]

Yeah, Davis had two such injuries and it robbed him of considerable lateral quickness. Hope DJ makes a full recovery. Sometimes these are 2 year injuries. 1 year to get back on the court and an additional year to be your old self.
Lateral quickness is super important for a guard making his money on the defensive side of the ball tbh. Something to think about. Praying he’s fine at the end of this basically... I expect both guys to take time to feel right kinda like Rudy Gay. Since they are so young it’s difficult to even know where they would be development wise if not for the injury.

[bklynspursfan]

they don't have to try to tank. They are going to seriously suck. White isn't going to surprise anyone. He stinks. Forbes and Mills are fringe players. DeRozan gonna need to do a lot more ball handling. Anyone want to buy some tickets? shit.

This post will be bookmark worthy.

[BillMc]

Praying he’s fine at the end of this basically...

Me too. :bobo

How's Kyle doing in Memphis? Haven't had time to check out their highlights.

[phxspurfan]

I do think that it's cool that Dejounte showed up at the facility and met with his teammates the very next day.

Shows you his maturity outside of the youtube, instahoe, BS, etc.

He could have easily hid in a closet while letting his Uncle speak for him like some kind of mute faggot tbh...

https://i.postimg.cc/kGx4DGmM/h2_FA0_E1_E3.jpg

[phxspurfan]

The Spurs will be fine defensively. They won't be great, but no, back courts won't be scoring 40 on them every night. The Spurs should still be a good team at defending the three too. Schematically, they're still the Spurs.

How did those schemes work when Mills was switched off to guarding Durant? How did Forbes do in the same situations? How does it work when that's all we have at the PG position?

[spurraider21]

Is this injury likely to reduce DJ's long term athleticism?
probably not. torn ACL's or borderline routine in pro sports these days. as long as he doesn't rush back he should be fine when he returns. jordy nelson is a guy who tore his ACL at 30 years old, came back the next season, put up about 1250 yards and led the NFL in touchdowns.

[BillMc]

probably not. torn ACL's or borderline routine in pro sports these days. as long as he doesn't rush back he should be fine when he returns. jordy nelson is a guy who tore his ACL at 30 years old, came back the next season, put up about 1250 yards and led the NFL in touchdowns.

Cheers. Good to have some optimism in this thread.

[phxspurfan]

probably not. torn ACL's or borderline routine in pro sports these days. as long as he doesn't rush back he should be fine when he returns. jordy nelson is a guy who tore his ACL at 30 years old, came back the next season, put up about 1250 yards and led the NFL in touchdowns.

Yeah I think this will actually help DJ long term. All of these super athletic guys have to have at least 1 or 2 big time injuries to start adjusting their game. He won't be 19/20 anymore and will have to play like a normal guy. Can't try to jump out of the gym on every play, unless he decides to do roids (cough Wade cough Westbrook cough LeBron)

[Chinook]

How did those schemes work when Mills was switched off to guarding Durant? How did Forbes do in the same situations? How does it work when that's all we have at the PG position?

So you're now saying that because GS' PF scored on Forbes, everyone else's guards will do the same? Come on, man, try to be consistent here? Not being able to defend Golden State is not the same thing as every back court in the league wrecking them.

[SAGirl]

Me too. :bobo

How's Kyle doing in Memphis? Haven't had time to check out their highlights.
He debuted quite well for them: 12 points off the bench in the first game, but then missed the next two games with a sore heel. He participated in full practice today so it must have been something minor and rest was precautionary.

The Grizzlies look healthy for the first time in a long time. Conley is playing well and surprisingly Chandler Parsons seems healthier than he’s been in years and is starting games. Even played 7 minutes of a B2B. I don’t know how long this will last but they are healthy and for the Grizzlies that’s half the battle.

[Holden_Caulfield]

damn we lose our 3 best defenders in an offseason. we are gonna look like the Lamarcus blazers :lol

get well soon DeJounte!!

[phxspurfan]

manu coming back would be cool. i'd rather have him over any other veteran PG i can think of that's available.

white/patty
beli/manu

when lonnie is healthy manu's role/minutes could be reduced further.

Manu ain't walking through that door.
Tony ain't walking through that door.
Duncan...
DRob...
Gervin...

[acoelho1]

The Spurs won't suck defensively but it will definitely hamper their ability to stop the other teams. The guy is elite on that side of the ball and no scheme can completely replace what he does on the floor.

[BillMc]

He debuted quite well for them: 12 points off the bench in the first game, but then missed the next two games with a sore heel. He participated in full practice today so it must have been something minor and rest was precautionary.



Good to hear. He's a good dude. Wish him the best

[kobyz]

Is this injury likely to reduce DJ's long term athleticism?

To dejounte type player, It's close to a career death sentence

[gambit1990]

https://www.instagram.com/p/Borijn_BZqG

[Dex]

DJ speaks out:

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[XSFH]

Get well soon, Dejounte!!!

[bklynspursfan]

damn we lose our 3 best defenders in an offseason. we are gonna look like the Lamarcus blazers :lol

get well soon DeJounte!!


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[Chinook]

DJ speaks out:

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How can one not love Murray as a member of the team? Dude is everything you could ask for off the court.

[Russ]

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If this guy isn't the absolute reverse oracle of sports reporting, I don't know who is.

Kawhi's coming back. Murray's not hurt.

No stock tips, please.

[TD 21]

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People are so stupid. The reason the defense didn't crater when Duncan retired, is because they replaced him with Gasol, whose essentially a poor man's version. They also still had excellent defensive personnel: Leonard, Aldridge, Green, Anderson, Simmons, Dedmon. Then when Leonard quit, they still had good personnel: Aldridge, Gasol (rim protection/defensive rebounding), Green, Anderson, Murray.

Now, they have laughable personnel. If they remain average to slightly above, the majority of the credit should go to elite rim protection (Gasol, Poeltl, Aldridge were 3 of top 10 in defensive fg% at the rim last season and Bertans was 15th) and to a lesser extent Gay and White, who if nothing else have elite-good size/length for their position . . . but we all know where it'll go.

I almost want to see them collapse so that these idiots who don't follow the team closely and just regurgitate lazy, false narratives, can see that it's always been primarily about the personnel.

[SpursDynasty85]

People are so stupid. The reason the defense didn't crater when Duncan retired, is because they replaced him with Gasol, whose essentially a poor man's version. They also still had excellent defensive personnel: Leonard, Aldridge, Green, Anderson, Simmons, Dedmon. Then when Leonard quit, they still had good personnel: Aldridge, Gasol (rim protection/defensive rebounding), Green, Anderson, Murray.

Now, they have laughable personnel. If they remain average to slightly above, the majority of the credit should go to elite rim protection (Gasol, Poeltl, Aldridge were 3 of top 10 in defensive fg% at the rim last season and Bertans was 15th) and to a lesser extent Gay and White, who if nothing else have elite-good size/length for their position . . . but we all know where it'll go.

I almost want to see them collapse so that these idiots who don't follow the team closely and just regurgitate lazy, false narratives, can see that it's always been primarily about the personnel.

So if they don't collapse it will be about the coaching and culture then? Lets see then.

[acoelho1]

Another piece that will sorely be missed is his toughness and leadership. Aldridge & DeRozan can’t fill that void and with Manu retired, I guess that leaves Mills. What a disappointing couple of years. I guess we’ve been spoiled for so long it was bound to catch up with us.

[Pavlov]

People are so stupid. The reason the defense didn't crater when Duncan retired, is because they replaced him with Gasol, whose essentially a poor man's version. They also still had excellent defensive personnel: Leonard, Aldridge, Green, Anderson, Simmons, Dedmon. Then when Leonard quit, they still had good personnel: Aldridge, Gasol (rim protection/defensive rebounding), Green, Anderson, Murray.

Now, they have laughable personnel. If they remain average to slightly above, the majority of the credit should go to elite rim protection (Gasol, Poeltl, Aldridge were 3 of top 10 in defensive fg% at the rim last season and Bertans was 15th) and to a lesser extent Gay and White, who if nothing else have elite-good size/length for their position . . . but we all know where it'll go.

I almost want to see them collapse so that these idiots who don't follow the team closely and just regurgitate lazy, false narratives, can see that it's always been primarily about the personnel."almost"

[TD 21]

So if they don't collapse it will be about the coaching and culture then? Lets see then.

I already answered this. Really, it was going to have to be about what I said anyway; they just lost a portion of it with Murray.

This is not a criticism of Pop. It's a criticism of the lazy, false narrative that's taken on a life of it's own the past half decade.

How many times have you heard or read something to the effect of "never bet against Pop" or "he could take 12 G-Leaguers and win"? Notice they didn't play this game with Jackson or Riley. They acted like they were supposed to apologize for coaching greatness.

[ElNono]

Don't get what's the big deal, tbh, we still have Patty to play heavy minutes...

[RD2191]

Don't get what's the big deal, tbh, we still have Patty to play heavy minutes...

:pctoss

[SpursDynasty85]

I already answered this. Really, it was going to have to be about what I said anyway; they just lost a portion of it with Murray.

This is not a criticism of Pop. It's a criticism of the lazy, false narrative that's taken on a life of it's own the past half decade.

How many times have you heard or read something to the effect of "never bet against Pop" or "he could take 12 G-Leaguers and win"? Notice they didn't play this game with Jackson or Riley. They acted like they were supposed to apologize for coaching greatness.

But you said if they implode it disproves the theory. If they dont implode what happens with yours? Quite convenient for your argument. Just sayin...

[dbestpro]

Don't get what's the big deal, tbh, we still have Patty to play heavy minutes...

I was really looking forward to Patty coming off the bench, where I think he is most effective.

[Pavlov]

I already answered this. Really, it was going to have to be about what I said anyway; they just lost a portion of it with Murray.

This is not a criticism of Pop. It's a criticism of the lazy, false narrative that's taken on a life of it's own the past half decade.

How many times have you heard or read something to the effect of "never bet against Pop" or "he could take 12 G-Leaguers and win"? Notice they didn't play this game with Jackson or Riley. They acted like they were supposed to apologize for coaching greatness.:lol you're also the best sports journalist who ever lived.

[TD 21]

But you said if they implode it disproves the theory. If they dont implode what happens with yours? Quite convenient for your argument. Just sayin...

You got it all wrong. What you said is theory . . . what I said is statistically proven.

Tell me, if it's supposedly Pop's genius and culture (which conveniently mostly vanished about 5 seconds after the greatest franchise player ever retired), what is he doing that's so special? If he waving his magical wand? Sprinkling pixie dust on top of their heads?

[Mugen]

Now that I think about it, I actually kinda miss TP.

We could really use his steady hand and leadership to lead this team to a top 5 lottery pick tbh.

[SpursDynasty85]

You got it all wrong. What you said is theory . . . what I said is statistically proven.

Tell me, if it's supposedly Pop's genius and culture (which conveniently mostly vanished about 5 seconds after the greatest franchise player ever retired), what is he doing that's so special? If he waving his magical wand? Sprinkling pixie dust on top of their heads?

So how much credit do you give Pops? Are you just arguing at the people who think it's purely Popovich? Just curious why you would like to see this team implode just to take some of the shine away from Pops. You sound like a Pop hater and a terrible Spurs fan right about now.

[TD 21]

So how much credit do you give Pops? Are you just arguing at the people who think it's purely Popovich? Just curious why you would like to see this team implode just to take some of the shine away from Pops. You sound like a Pop hater and a terrible Spurs fan right about now.

Far less than the brainwashed masses and from '15 on, none.

You sound like someone who lacks basic reading comprehension.

[SpursDynasty85]

Far less than the brainwashed masses and from '15 on, none.

You sound like someone who lacks basic reading comprehension.

Maybe I hopped on the conversation late but you are jumping off a cliff tbh. You really want to see this team explode just to prove the people who think Popovich is a genius master coach is wrong? Are you listening to yourself?

[SAGirl]

How can one not love Murray as a member of the team? Dude is everything you could ask for off the court.
Of course. It's so simple to be polite and grateful for the concern of others. No need for drama. Kawhi just obviously created about 75% of the drama with his apathy and his lack of communication. He probably didn't have anything nice to say and his sister and camp only fanned the flames.

Murray is a definite breath of fresh air. Hoping for a great next season for him.

[gambit1990]

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haven't seen any of them play in a long time but i would take jameer out of those three.

[Stabula]

Get well soon, Dejounte!!!

He's never going to "get well" as a guard whose best feature was his athleticism. He's done.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Nevermind. Pop said he's out there year.

Fuck.

[cool cat]

1049132532091027457

If this guy isn't the absolute reverse oracle of sports reporting, I don't know who is.

Kawhi's coming back. Murray's not hurt.

No stock tips, please.

He also Spurs fans were spoiled two or three days before Kawhi announced he wanted to be traded.

[Dejounte]

He's never going to "get well" as a guard whose best feature was his athleticism. He's done.

Wrong. Murray was never that athletic. It's his size, creativity with handles, and knack for rebounds that sets him apart. Murray really doesn't jump out of the gym like Lonnie does.

[Chinook]

Wrong. Murray was never that athletic. It's his size, creativity with handles, and knack for rebounds that sets him apart. Murray really doesn't jump out of the gym like Lonnie does.

Same as Leonard really. Murray should look at DeRozan to see how to work more under the rim anyway. The shot is nice enough, but he'll have another year to work on his game, and finishing is the main thing that will push him over the top.

[Dejounte]

Same as Leonard really. Murray should look at DeRozan to see how to work more under the rim anyway. The shot is nice enough, but he'll have another year to work on his game, and finishing is the main thing that will push him over the top.

Leonard doesn't have as much creativity with ball handling but his size is even more of a freak than Murray. This has allowed him to be top 5 player in the NBA. That and his determination to emulate the some of the best players ever (Kobe, MJ). I think if Leonard didn't have his crazy wingspan and crazy hand size, he would be half the player that he is. Honestly, I hope Murray continues to study Kobe (he's shown this on his IG). This will raise his ceiling more and I believe his "body movement" always resembled Kobe. You're right, DeRozan is the perfect mentor for him since he's studied Kobe so much too. I don't believe the Spurs "pursued" DeRozan just because of his on court contribution... His value will show when he starts to mentor our young players. Genius move by the Spurs.

[R. DeMurre]

Tell me, if it's supposedly Pop's genius and culture (which conveniently mostly vanished about 5 seconds after the greatest franchise player ever retired), what is he doing that's so special? If he waving his magical wand? Sprinkling pixie dust on top of their heads?


The year after Duncan retired, the Spurs went 61-21 and beat the Rockets in the conference semi-finals 4-2 after losing Parker to an injury in Game 2 and Leonard to an injury in Game 5. How on earth does that qualify as "vanishing?"

[TDomination]

I went to the scrimmage and man I was so excited to see Murray and Walker. And now just a few days pass and everything has changed. Sucks

[Spurtacular]

My guess is torn meniscus. Damn it. Just tank the season.

That'll go over really well with LMA and DeRozan.

[kobyz]

Too bad walker is hurt too, at least spurs could have used this season to build him by putting him in more of main position, so you don't get even the positive here...

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Too bad walker is hurt too, at least spurs could have used this season to build him by putting him in more of main position, so you don't get even the positive here...

Walker has an 8 week recovery timeline. He'll rehab in Austin and might get some run with the big boys still this season.

[Bynumite]

Just saw the play. The injury coming in a play with Harden playing defense on him.


:lmao:rollin:lmao

[kobyz]

Walker has an 8 week recovery timeline. He'll rehab in Austin and might get some run with the big boys still this season.

He still probably will need to take this year very easy if or after he comeback

[TD 21]

The year after Duncan retired, the Spurs went 61-21 and beat the Rockets in the conference semi-finals 4-2 after losing Parker to an injury in Game 2 and Leonard to an injury in Game 5. How on earth does that qualify as "vanishing?"

What does that have to do with the defense, what Pop supposedly does with it and why it supersedes personnel? I noticed neither of you commented on that.

The year after Duncan retired, they signed Gasol, who at that point was an upgrade simply because he was still able bodied and otherwise returned the core of a 67 win team, in a watered down West . . . but don't let facts get in the way of a false narrative.

So culture finished off the Rockets? Here I was thinking it was because they won a coin flip game 5, setting the stage for a combination of serious progression to the mean from Aldridge and the most bizarre performance I've ever seen from a superstar, by Harden, in game 6.

[cjw]

Just saw the play. The injury coming in a play with Harden playing defense on him.


:lmao:rollin:lmao

Coming from a guy who’s handle is the most physically and mentally fragile player of all time.

You realize these injuries are usually non-contact and have little to do with the circumstances.

[superbigtime]

didn't look like any crazy movement or anything unusual.

[bklynspursfan]

1057807805304922113

"When he's able to move a little bit more and get around, he's going to become like a coach," coach Popovich said. "We are going to put him in all our coaching meetings and let him sit there while we argue about game plans and what to do. We are going to have him be in every one of those meetings to at least fill his brain up a little bit with what's going on."

Popovich said that plan will also help make Murray "feel part of the group" and "not isolated and sitting in the training room all the time, which gets pretty boring."

[hooperflash]

^ LIT — Yeah I said it :flag:

[SAGirl]

Awesome he’d be like a coaching intern and learn a lot. Pretty excited about that.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Spurs are never going to leave a player alone again.

[daslicer]

Spurs are never going to leave a player alone again.

:lol

[SpurPadre]

Maybe Murray can convince Pop to trade Mills...

[daslicer]

Awesome he’d be like a coaching intern and learn a lot. Pretty excited about that.

It's also good when it comes to developing his basketball IQ. He'll definitely be a smarter player after this experience.

[RC_Drunkford]

This is dope. Will improve his basketball IQ and help him grow in his leadership role

[BillMc]

Spurs are never going to leave a player alone again.
:rollin

[Chinook]

Would be nice to see Murray become a better one-on-one defender. Getting him into the habit of studying other guys to figure how to play them is really good. Obviously, getting a year of offensive meetings will only make him more cerebral. Dude should also be able to work on the upper body even with the injury. Would only help him finish against contact and body up larger guys (though in the latter case, lower-body strength is more important).

[cd021]

1057807805304922113

"When he's able to move a little bit more and get around, he's going to become like a coach," coach Popovich said. "We are going to put him in all our coaching meetings and let him sit there while we argue about game plans and what to do. We are going to have him be in every one of those meetings to at least fill his brain up a little bit with what's going on."

Popovich said that plan will also help make Murray "feel part of the group" and "not isolated and sitting in the training room all the time, which gets pretty boring."


Awesome he’d be like a coaching intern and learn a lot. Pretty excited about that.

Really like that idea a lot.

When I was in HS, I worked for the JV team as a stat guy when I was a freshman and got to sit with the coaches and hear them talk about the game in real time and after the game. It changes your perspective on things and you can learn a lot that way.

Also keeping him around the team and making him feel included is smart, keeps him away from his Uncles :lol

[John B]

lucky guy

[Philthemage]

Great idea. From an organizational perspective, this would hopefully get more buy in from DJ and helps with his understanding of the game.

Seems like PATFO are tweaking their philosophy a bit after the whole Kawhi saga. While keeping the team first philosophy, doing things like this engages the core players more. Not everyone's gonna be intrinsically motivated like Duncan and Manu.

Spurs on the forefront of doing things differently.

[Spurs fever]

Great idea. From an organizational perspective, this would hopefully get more buy in from DJ and helps with his understanding of the game.

Seems like PATFO are tweaking their philosophy a bit after the whole Kawhi saga. While keeping the team first philosophy, doing things like this engages the core players more. Not everyone's gonna be intrinsically motivated like Duncan and Manu.

Spurs on the forefront of doing things differently. I think the whole Kawhi thing was learning experience and many different levels.

[Fireball]

Spurs are never going to leave a player alone again.

made my day :lol

[phxspurfan]

Coach’s pet

Seems weird considering all the meetings will be about how they can hide Patty and Bryn on defense

[r0drig0lac]

Spurs are never going to leave a player alone again.

#facts

[YGWHI]

Great idea. From an organizational perspective, this would hopefully get more buy in from DJ and helps with his understanding of the game.

Seems like PATFO are tweaking their philosophy a bit after the whole Kawhi saga. While keeping the team first philosophy, doing things like this engages the core players more. Not everyone's gonna be intrinsically motivated like Duncan and Manu.

Spurs on the forefront of doing things differently.

Good move. I wanted this team to start using new tactics and strategies to deal with young players and keep them involved and motivated.

For a 20 years old Murray will be a very nice experience learing how coaches read games, how and why they draw some plays, how they scout and find rivals' weaknesses...

[YGWHI]

Spurs are never going to leave a player alone again.

:lol :tu


Sadly, they let some uncle to take advantage of a bad situation. But it's great to see they learned from that...Smart people learn from a mistake and never make it twice.

[acoelho1]

Smart move by the Spurs and that should help his development. I expect great things from Murray and love what he brings leadership wise which Kawhi was sorely lacking.

[Dejounte]

Murray's the new TP and will be with this team for 15 years. Hopefully he takes a discount so we can get good players.

[John B]

At least if he doesn’t pan out, we have a future assistant coach on the making? :rollin:rollin

[SAGirl]

Murray's the new TP and will be with this team for 15 years. Hopefully he takes a discount so we can get good players.
He's represented by Rich Paul. He's going to definitely get paid. :greedy

The bigger concern for the Spurs is getting out of him what he's worth once the day comes but hopefully he progresses past this injury to new heights.

[SAGirl]

At least if he doesn’t pan out, we have a future assistant coach on the making? :rollin:rollin
That was how Becky started. She was a coaching intern her next to last playing season when she got injured.

[bklynspursfan]

Really like that idea a lot.

When I was in HS, I worked for the JV team as a stat guy when I was a freshman and got to sit with the coaches and hear them talk about the game in real time and after the game. It changes your perspective on things and you can learn a lot that way.

Also keeping him around the team and making him feel included is smart, keeps him away from his Uncles :lol

Truth :lol

[Dverde]

Looks like he is moving around okay with Jilly again...:eyebrows
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq4Z-zMVsAE8t0C?format=jpg&name=large

[San Antonio Slayer]

sorry for the wrong thread but when White and Walker are scheduled for possible return?

[Seventyniner]

Don't forget that Murray being willing to do this, instead of just chilling, says a lot about his character too. There's much more to working hard than just being a gym rat.

[John B]

Don't forget that Murray being willing to do this, instead of just chilling, says a lot about his character too. There's much more to working hard than just being a gym rat.
I think he’s about to lose the starting PG to Forbes. He needs to catch up.

[duncan2150]

sorry for the wrong thread but when White and Walker are scheduled for possible return?

Walker is out for 6-8 weeks so he’ll be back in december i guess and will play a lot of g-league imo.

For derrick, that’s the same 6-8 weeks but spurs said it could be 2-4 weeks. Actually he’s out since the 10th of october , i hope he’ll be back by mid-november/early december .

[John B]

Don't forget that Murray being willing to do this, instead of just chilling, says a lot about his character too. There's much more to working hard than just being a gym rat.
I think he’s about to lose the starting PG to Forbes. He needs to catch up.

[Namundy]

I think he’s about to lose the starting PG to Forbes. He needs to catch up.

I imagine Forbes is actually taking minutes from Mills/White right now with what he's proven.

[rjv]

all pop said last night was that both white and walker were progressing nicely but that white would likely be back before walker. he refused to give a time line because he doesn't want to be held to any target date.

[John B]

I imagine Forbes is actually taking minutes from Mills/White right now with what he's proven.
Right now Forbes is a better fit with Demar and LMA, unless Murray develops deadly outside shot. Demar is proving to be the best facilitator. Murray needs a lot of catching up tbh

[Immortal Spur]

Forbes could actually continue to start with Dejounte Imo. You just move Gay to the 4. Dejounte is a good wing defender can run point and if you add say a player like Chriss or a player with his skill set it could work. You just need two spacers.

I'd personally like to see
Murray
Forbes
DeRozan
Chriss (Obviously Gay would start here but hey what the heck I like it like this)
LMA

I've been doing some research on Chriss and he's a terrible 3 pt shooter for being a proposed shooter, but I'm gonna give him a pass for that because he can run the floor extremely well as well as rim protect. If he shoots 3's at a low volume and is more accurate he'd be a perfect fit with Murray's transition game. I think Murray could persuade him to come too.

In the proposed lineup, Forbes would be more of a two and Murray the one but switches offense and defense. It may sound looney but I think Forbes could be a starter going forward with or without Murray. That's how good I think he fits and plays.

More on Chriss... He's the got the same potential skill set we hope Bertans would evolve into, although his athleticism makes him an ideal running mate for DJ.

[Chinook]

Chriss sucks a ton right now. It would be a stretch to have him on the team, but he's damned sure isn't starting without showing to be a LOT better than he currently looks.

[Immortal Spur]

Chriss sucks a ton right now. It would be a stretch to have him on the team, but he's damned sure isn't starting without showing to be a LOT better than he currently looks.
Pop and Murray can save him :) He's got a lot of tools. It sucks so bad how underdeveloped he is two years into the league and may be too late, but I think we would be a perfect situation.

[Chinook]

Pop and Murray can save him :) He's got a lot of tools. It sucks so bad how underdeveloped he is two years into the league and may be too late, but I think we would be a perfect situation.

He's low-IQ, lazy and a locker-room cancer from what I've seen. Spurs don't need negative guys on their roster right now, especially ones who aren't good at basketball.

[r0drig0lac]

why fixation with Chriss? this kid is trash, he'll probably be playing in China in two years.

[DAF86]

I had to google who the fuck was Chriss. :lol

[Spurs da champs]

why fixation with Chriss? this kid is trash, he'll probably be playing in China in two years.

Spurstalk also had fixations over James Gist & Pops Mensah-Bonsu. :lmao

[John B]

Spurstalk also had fixations over James Gist & Pops Mensah-Bonsu. :lmao
Don't start me with Pops Mensah-Bonsu. That guy could bring down the house :nope:p:

[Immortal Spur]

What can I say it’s my perception. The games I’ve watched him he’s done good. I haven’t seen many of his games. Regardless of perception he does indeed have great physical tools. Y’all are buying he sucks cause he’s just bad at the game. I’m buying he was underdeveloped and lost confidence and can be salvaged. I see a lot of potential and I see the angle of him and Murray already have played together. Plus a year with the coaching staff ought to buy some respect if DJ says let’s bring him in, I know what he’s capable of. How many frenchies came cause of Parker’s recommendation or Argies from Ginobili.

[phxspurfan]

Don't start me with Pops Mensah-Bonsu. That guy could bring down the house :nope:p:

That was James Flight White actually

[SpurPadre]

I think he’s about to lose the starting PG to Forbes. He needs to catch up.

LMAO, Murray isn't losing shit to Forbes. Once Murray is back next year, Forbes is back to towel-waiving or off the fucking team.

[objective]

I think Chriss would be worth a shot in the summer on a minimum or two-way.

He is bad now and probably can't be fixed

BUT he has been underserved by coaching severely in college and the NBA. Washington was a coaching mess and players just ran around like chickens with their heads cut off playing rec league. I was down on Murray after the draft because of so many videos of him being lost on defense and incredibly raw, but not following NCAA closely, didn't know about Washington's crap situation. Murray WAS very raw and out of it, and it wasn't an overnight process with the Spurs coaching staff, and of course credit to Murray for working hard and being smart ... but it's incredible that Murray in just two years of real coaching and development got him to the NBA second team all-defense.

I don't think it's too outrageous for the Spurs to try on Chriss when he's cheap. His pro coaches were 'players coach' Earl Watson, who was thoroughly unprepared to be a head coach after one season as an Austin Spurs assistant and then one half-season as behind-the-bench player development coach for the Suns and then elevated to head coach.

Chriss's second year coaching was Watson being fired after 3 games and having substitute teacher Triano tank out for the franchise.

Now he's been saddled with D'Antoni's "Let's go, let's go!" style of coaching. And the assistant defensive coach for the Rockets that got all the love and credit last year retired before the start of this year. Chriss can't catch a break.

He's probably finished, because if he was smart enough he would have developed some on his own and picked up some things, but I could see him as a reasonable reclamation project who could be beneficial to have as Murray's teammate.

[Mugen]

Chriss is a huge waste of time and has about a 0% chance of being brought on by the most straight edge organization in the league tbh.

[exstatic]

I think Chriss would be worth a shot in the summer on a minimum or two-way.

He is bad now and probably can't be fixed

BUT he has been underserved by coaching severely in college and the NBA. Washington was a coaching mess and players just ran around like chickens with their heads cut off playing rec league. I was down on Murray after the draft because of so many videos of him being lost on defense and incredibly raw, but not following NCAA closely, didn't know about Washington's crap situation. Murray WAS very raw and out of it, and it wasn't an overnight process with the Spurs coaching staff, and of course credit to Murray for working hard and being smart ... but it's incredible that Murray in just two years of real coaching and development got him to the NBA second team all-defense.

I don't think it's too outrageous for the Spurs to try on Chriss when he's cheap. His pro coaches were 'players coach' Earl Watson, who was thoroughly unprepared to be a head coach after one season as an Austin Spurs assistant and then one half-season as behind-the-bench player development coach for the Suns and then elevated to head coach.

Chriss's second year coaching was Watson being fired after 3 games and having substitute teacher Triano tank out for the franchise.

Now he's been saddled with D'Antoni's "Let's go, let's go!" style of coaching. And the assistant defensive coach for the Rockets that got all the love and credit last year retired before the start of this year. Chriss can't catch a break.

He's probably finished, because if he was smart enough he would have developed some on his own and picked up some things, but I could see him as a reasonable reclamation project who could be beneficial to have as Murray's teammate.

It’s not just his lack of development. He’s getting a reputation as a bad locker room guy. Do not want.

[John B]

LMAO, Murray isn't losing shit to Forbes. Once Murray is back next year, Forbes is back to towel-waiving or off the fucking team.
Murray makes the 1st unit a defensive juggernaut with his reach, rebounding. But he doesn’t open up Demar and LMA as well as Forbes. While Forbes is holding up his own on defense and the team defense is actually improving. Demar is proving to be the best facilitator. Right now Murray is the odd man unless he develops a deadly shot. Just my opinion.

[exstatic]

Murray makes the 1st unit a defensive juggernaut with his reach, rebounding. But he doesn’t open up Demar and LMA as well as Forbes. While Forbes is holding up his own on defense and the team defense is actually improving. Demar is proving to be the best facilitator. Right now Murray is the odd man unless he develops a deadly shot. Just my opinion.

It’s much more likely that they bump everyone up a spot, Rudy to 4, DeMar to 3, start White at 2, and bench Forbes than bench Murray.

[JeffDuncan]

LMAO, Murray isn't losing shit to Forbes. Once Murray is back next year, Forbes is back to towel-waiving or off the fucking team.

This.

Forbes is fighting for a backup role next year, that's all.

[Dejounte]

Next years starting Line-up :

Murray/ White/ Lonnie
DeMar/ Forbes/ Mills
Cunningham/ Pondexter
Gay/ Bertans
Aldridge/ Poetl

DeMar will get plenty of rest next season. We'll probably pursue a backup big in the off-season. I think Gasol will be gone.

[bklynspursfan]

Lonnie supporting Murray.

BpplgO_FOul

[Fireball]

already walking without crutches ... awesome!

[tonight...you]

Lonnie supporting Murray.

BpplgO_FOul
Very nice! :bobo

[Dverde]

The return of Jilly is already paying dividends.

[John B]

Just in time for playoffs. 6-9 months and the guy’s 22. Heck we advance to 2nd round we might see him.

[Dex]

Just in time for playoffs. 6-9 months and the guy’s 22. Heck we advance to 2nd round we might see him.

No way he plays in the playoffs. He will be lucky to even be cleared for basketball activities by that time. Then he has to actually get back in basketball shape.

[NASpurs]

Looks like he is moving around okay with Jilly again...:eyebrows
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Dq4Z-zMVsAE8t0C?format=jpg&name=large

Hopefully he doesn’t pull his groin

[Dverde]

No way he plays in the playoffs. He will be lucky to even be cleared for basketball activities by that time. Then he has to actually get back in basketball shape.

I agree with this. Best case he is ready for training camp.

[Mugen]

Poor Dejounte, my man's gonna lose half that big ass contract he's gonna sign after his rookie deal.

[BatManu20]

The fact that he and Jilly already split and both “deleted” all their IG pics of them together, only to get back together and then bring all the pictures back just a couple weeks later, speaks volumes about the maturity of their relationship and what it really is tbh.

He better not be a dumbass and marry this broad. 21 year-olds don’t know what’s best for them. Be smart DJ. Don’t fall victim to the system brah.

[Mugen]

The fact that he and Jilly already split and both “deleted” all their IG pics of them together, only to get back together and then bring all the pictures back just a couple weeks later, speaks volumes about the maturity of their relationship and what it really is tbh.

He better not be a dumbass and marry this broad. 21 year-olds don’t know what’s best for them. Be smart DJ. Don’t fall victim to the system brah.

:lol he's 21 brah, you and I already know how this shit is gonna end. She's gonna lock that up before the Spurs do tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

:lol he's 21 brah, you and I already know how this shit is gonna end. She's gonna lock that up before the Spurs do tbh.

word

[Ginobilly]

The fact that he and Jilly already split and both “deleted” all their IG pics of them together, only to get back together and then bring all the pictures back just a couple weeks later, speaks volumes about the maturity of their relationship and what it really is tbh.

He better not be a dumbass and marry this broad. 21 year-olds don’t know what’s best for them. Be smart DJ. Don’t fall victim to the system brah.

+1

He should follow in dleague Danny's footsteps and stay single, and just spend his free time picking up 18 year old ojo locos/hooters waitresses. :eyebrows:lmao

[objective]

Poor Dejounte, my man's gonna lose half that big ass contract he's gonna sign after his rookie deal.

Isn't his agent the same guy who was hired by Noel after Noel's previous agent advised him to take the $70 million offer from Dallas ... and then Rich Paul came in and and Noel took the QO and lost many millions upon millions ...

Rich Paul doesn't seem like the type to give an injury discount

[tonight...you]

:lol he's 21 brah, you and I already know how this shit is gonna end. She's gonna lock that up before the Spurs do tbh.
Too bad he's too young to learn that all pussy gets old.
It ends up about being a partner-in-crime. A symbiotic relationship. A friendship that transcends.

Then the pussy renews.

Otherwise you're always back on the hunt. Whether through real life, or porno sites.

[hombre]

Word.

[Mugen]

Isn't his agent the same guy who was hired by Noel after Noel's previous agent advised him to take the $70 million offer from Dallas ... and then Rich Paul came in and and Noel took the QO and lost many millions upon millions ...

Rich Paul doesn't seem like the type to give an injury discount

I'm talking about Jilly taking half his money in the divorce tbh.


Too bad he's too young to learn that all pussy gets old.
It ends up about being a partner-in-crime. A symbiotic relationship. A friendship that transcends.

Then the pussy renews.

Otherwise you're always back on the hunt. Whether through real life, or porno sites.

This is beautiful my nig, might steal this when I'm doing my vows next year tbh.

[tonight...you]

I'm talking about Jilly taking half his money in the divorce tbh.



This is beautiful my nig, might steal this when I'm doing my vows next year tbh.
Ha ha ha! Word for word...

[BillMc]

:lol he's 21 brah, you and I already know how this shit is gonna end. She's gonna lock that up before the Spurs do tbh.

hopefully he's got a wise uncle to give him advice.

[Mugen]

Isn't his agent the same guy who was hired by Noel after Noel's previous agent advised him to take the $70 million offer from Dallas ... and then Rich Paul came in and and Noel took the QO and lost many millions upon millions ...

Rich Paul doesn't seem like the type to give an injury discount


hopefully he's got a wise uncle to give him advice.

:lol :depressed

[Dverde]

hopefully he's got a wise uncle to give him advice.

If not, Kawhi knows a guy.

[BillMc]

If not, Kawhi knows a guy.
:lol

[Vic Petro]

He will not be back before next season.

[emanueldavidginobili]

He will be back better by than ever after his recovery. Lavine is absolutely snapping this year after tearing his ACL. Take a look at his highlights tonight he’s a freak. 360 dunk, put back from a free throw attempt and some other freakishly things

[HarlemHeat37]

He will be back better by than ever after his recovery. Lavine is absolutely snapping this year after tearing his ACL. Take a look at his highlights tonight he’s a freak. 360 dunk, put back from a free throw attempt and some other freakishly things

Murray's athleticism isn't the concern, it's his dribbling, passing and shooting:lol

[SAGirl]

He will be back better by than ever after his recovery. Lavine is absolutely snapping this year after tearing his ACL. Take a look at his highlights tonight he’s a freak. 360 dunk, put back from a free throw attempt and some other freakishly things
Yup but it took him time. Technically he was back playing last season but wasnt really back like he is this season. Dijon was also still in a development process, it's really unpredictable when he will really be back, not just on the court but playing well.... He had to improve.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Murray's athleticism isn't the concern, it's his dribbling, passing and shooting:lol
I agree the biggest strength is his athleticism though and people are skeptical if he will return with the same athleticism. Imagine him with sub par athletic ability he would be terrible right now.

[emanueldavidginobili]

Yup but it took him time. Technically he was back playing last season but wasnt really back like he is this season. Dijon was also still in a development process, it's really unpredictable when he will really be back, not just on the court but playing well.... He had to improve.
Very true but good thing for DJ it Happened before the season. With Zach it happened in Feb if I’m not mistaken.

[duncan2k5]

Say what you want about Jilly...but god damn!

[gambit1990]

CEO of the company i work for was talking about tearing his ACL. and that it never fully heals...

[davidbowie]

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:eyebrows:eyebrows:eyebrows

[RD2191]

DJ is on his way to becoming an NBA star. Chicks like jilly will be a dime a dozen for him.

[bklynspursfan]

Gotta Love Lonnie :lol

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[John B]

Gotta Love Lonnie :lol

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Lonnie on his way back from donut run :lol

[Mirrornick]

Imagine actually not getting killed on defending the pick and roll every game.. this kid would make a huge difference.

[Mirrornick]

but for real why do these athletes fall in love with girls who take pictures of themselves wearing underwear on instagram LOL

the power of pussy

[John B]

but for real why do these athletes fall in love with girls who take pictures of themselves wearing underwear on instagram LOL

the power of pussy
You're 22 with all the testosterone, suddenly making millions??

[Mirrornick]

You're 22 with all the testosterone, suddenly making millions??

There were many nba players who married good family oriented women. It's a choice at the end.

Duncan
Dirk
LeBron
Kobe

[John B]

There were many nba players who married good family oriented women. It's a choice at the end.

Duncan
Dirk
LeBron
Kobe

You lost me at Duncan :lol
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But it's difficult with all the girls throwing themselves on them.

[Mirrornick]

You lost me at Duncan :lol
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But it's difficult with all the girls throwing themselves on them.

obviously I meant way before that messy divorce few years ago. But yeah if Duncans wife cheated on him, then she's a scum.

[Dverde]

but for real why do these athletes fall in love with girls who take pictures of themselves wearing underwear on instagram LOL

the power of pussy

Many assume Lebron’s mom is in a committed relationship. Option 2. Instragram models.

[Mirrornick]

Many assume Lebron’s mom is in a committed relationship. Option 2. Instragram models.

LeBron's mom got knocked up at 16 lol.. you damn well know she slept around. Rumor has it she banged Wilt Chamberlain and that he's LeBron's biological father.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

LeBron's mom got knocked up at 16 lol.. you damn well know she slept around. Rumor has it she banged Wilt Chamberlain and that he's LeBron's biological father.

That would be cool if true. Lebron could be like Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Twins. But instead of getting the combined DNA of the world's top scientists mixed together in a lab, Lebron's mom could have had a train run on her by the top NBA stars of the '60s and '70s, with their sperm uniting to fertilize baby momma and create the world's greatest basketball talent.

Sounds like the script for the greatest basketball movie ever made.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

^^^ I'm just curious as to which NBA player is the Danny DeVito in that equation.

[Dverde]

That would be cool if true. Lebron could be like Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Twins. But instead of getting the combined DNA of the world's top scientists mixed together in a lab, Lebron's mom could have had a train run on her by the top NBA stars of the '60s and '70s, with their sperm uniting to fertilize baby momma and create the world's greatest basketball talent.

Sounds like the script for the greatest basketball movie ever made.

Prequel to Uncle Drew named Aunt Screw.

[Dverde]

That would be cool if true. Lebron could be like Arnold Schwarzenegger in the movie Twins. But instead of getting the combined DNA of the world's top scientists mixed together in a lab, Lebron's mom could have had a train run on her by the top NBA stars of the '60s and '70s, with their sperm uniting to fertilize baby momma and create the world's greatest basketball talent.

Sounds like the script for the greatest basketball movie ever made.

Prequel to Uncle Drew named Aunt Screw.

[pookenstein]

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[gambit1990]

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[cd021]

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Wait, people think Westbrook is a good defender?

[MultiTroll]

tweet on how Murray is the NBAs best defensive guard and he bloviates how he is.
Score some humility.
See Timmy Duncan.

You already got sidetracked with some above average (nothing more) pussy.
IMO that helped lead to your injury.
So STFU with your bloviating and think long term.
p.s. ebonics is retarded but I ain'ts tryins to changes that about youz.
I thought CIA Pop was on that.

[gambit1990]

if the spurs tanked hard they could go into next season with murray, lonnie, demar, la... and a high draft pick...

[TimmyBuckets]

Nah I love it. Let him flex. Stop with all this humility garbage. Last retard who was humble turned out to be a pussy faggot.

[John B]

He’ll play with a chip on his shoulder that he has something to prove

[SpurPadre]

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FUCK. RIP DeJounte Murray as a Spur. Pop doesn't do arrogance, tbh.

[TimmyBuckets]

FUCK. RIP DeJounte Murray as a Spur. Pop doesn't do arrogance, tbh.

Its confidence

[timvp]

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Good stuff. A young player who wants to be the best defender at his position? Great.

Besides, every great point guard has to have an alpha personality.

[r0drig0lac]

Nah I love it. Let him flex. Stop with all this humility garbage. Last retard who was humble turned out to be a pussy faggot.
agree, alpha doing alpha things

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Good stuff. A young player who wants to be the best defender at his position? Great.

Besides, every great point guard has to have an alpha personality.

Agreed. By all accounts he’s a good teammate and has that will to win that you want to see. I like the chip he carries on his shoulder. Let him be vocal about it. You can’t expect every player to fit the Timmy mold. People stuck nephew in that box based on him being non-social with the media, not realizing he’s nothing like Tim as a leader, person, or teammate. Murray is all-Spur when it comes to heart and effort, IMO, and he’s blazing his own path.

[spursparker9]

The Swagger that we need

[weeks]

Nah I love it. Let him flex. Stop with all this humility garbage. Last retard who was humble turned out to be a pussy faggot.

[boutons_deux]

if the spurs tanked hard they could go into next season with murray, lonnie, demar, la... and a high draft pick...

There's a long history of first or high draft picks bombing out the league after a couple years. Tanking is no guarantee of improved roster.

Spurs staff thinking DC, Bryn should be a starters, should be in the league, indicate their eye for talent is myopic.

[MultiTroll]

:lol the bloviating "I be's da best right now".

Ya that's gonna do it.

[J_Paco]

There's a long history of first or high draft picks bombing out the league after a couple years. Tanking is no guarantee of improved roster.

Spurs staff thinking DC, Bryn should be a starters, should be in the league, indicate their eye for talent is myopic.

Yes, the front-office that discovered Manu, Tony, drafted George Hill, traded for Kawhi Leonard and has acquired countless other players (Malik Rose, Antonio Daniels, Stephen Jackson, Danny Green, Aron Baynes, etc.) for them to have solid NBA careers is "myopic......"

Because ST's combined basketball knowledge and eye for talent is superior to that of a hall of fame coach and one of the best NBA GM's ever.

Also, Murray being confident is often confused with "arrogance" on here. As if Parker and Ginobili didn't think they were the best guard(s) in the league or Duncan the best player.

He's around in the "social media" age so his "voice" and opinion will be much, much louder with the extra exposure. I'm just thankful he's remaining engaged with the team and motivated to be the best.

[J_Paco]

:lol the bloviating "I be's da best right now".

Ya that's gonna do it.




You can mock his "bloviating" and grammar (oh no, Internet Grammar Police!), but he has a case for the best defensive PG in the NBA.

Weird how Spurs fan wants Pop and R.C. to "get with the times," but bitch and moan when the team's young point guard does a little bragging/puffing out his chest on social media.

I'll take Dejounte striving to be a great defender especially with all the defensive sieves currently on the roster.

[MultiTroll]

You can mock his "bloviating" and grammar (oh no, Internet Grammar Police!), but he has a case for the best defensive PG in the NBA.

Weird how Spurs fan wants Pop and R.C. to "get with the times," but bitch and moan when the team's young point guard does a little bragging/puffing out his chest on social media.

I'll take Dejounte striving to be a great defender especially with all the defensive sieves currently on the roster.
I don't want want DJ striving to be the best defensive guard in the NBA you are claiming?
Cmon man Strawman tactic on SpursTalk is such a lame staple.

Look it's a cultural thing. The fake wrappers etc acting all super overconfident.
If a bunch of you are fine with the bloviating, great, blov away.
It's based on insecurity, not real confidence.

But if it helps Murray then great, go for it. You are not and will not see me stopping him.

[R. DeMurre]

Just the fact that he CARES about defense is refreshing... You'll rarely if ever see John Wall, James Harden, Kemba Walker, or Damian Lilliard talk like this about defense.

[J_Paco]

I don't want want DJ striving to be the best defensive guard in the NBA you are claiming?
Cmon man Strawman tactic on SpursTalk is such a lame staple.

Look it's a cultural thing. The fake wrappers etc acting all super overconfident.
If a bunch of you are fine with the bloviating, great, blov away.
It's based on insecurity, not real confidence.

But if it helps Murray then great, go for it. You are not and will not see me stopping him.

How is it based on insecurity when statistically he was one of the best defensive PG's last season?!

The kid is confident (maybe cocky or "arrogant"), but he's also shown himself to be humble, appreciative and willing to learn during his time in San Antonio. Also, there is clear difference in him stating he is the best at something and the silly "money phone," "bling bling," braggadocious, etc. aspects of Hip-Hop (or American) culture (at large).

But, I'm sure him being young, rich and black it is easier to paint him with that broad brush without actually looking at context....

[BD24]

Just the fact that he CARES about defense is refreshing... You'll rarely if ever see John Wall, James Harden, Kemba Walker, or Damian Lilliard talk like this about defense.
This tbh. Really excited to have him next year. A shame about the injury this year, seemed like he was ready to take that step forward

[RC_Drunkford]

this team has a leadership problem (which is evident if your leader is Patty Mills and you pay him 50 million for just that and playing 20 minutes a night off the bench) and people in here have a problem with DJ being confident :lol

He's exactly the type of personality this team is missing

[SPURt]

Any chance he returns for the playoffs? They’d be right around the 6 month mark after his injury. Maybe get some of that Adrian Peterson healing factor. Jerry Rice came back after 3.5 months but immediately hurt his knee cap, which is where they got the material for the ACL reconstruction.

[Mr. Body]

this team has a leadership problem (which is evident if your leader is Patty Mills and you pay him 50 million for just that and playing 20 minutes a night off the bench) and people in here have a problem with DJ being confident :lol

He's exactly the type of personality this team is missing

Personality isn't the same thing as leadership.

[RC_Drunkford]

Personality isn't the same thing as leadership.

He's a natural leader and has shown flashes of it last season already. This will only become more evident with him improving as a player, not to mention him being in coaching meetings this season

[r0drig0lac]

Personality isn't the same thing as leadership.

facts, and Dejounte has both things

[Dverde]

Any chance he returns for the playoffs? They’d be right around the 6 month mark after his injury. Maybe get some of that Adrian Peterson healing factor. Jerry Rice came back after 3.5 months but immediately hurt his knee cap, which is where they got the material for the ACL reconstruction.

You would have to ask his group.

[TimmyBuckets]

:lol the bloviating "I be's da best right now".

Ya that's gonna do it.




:lmao

[emanueldavidginobili]

I can’t wait for this kid to come back. He’s right he hasn’t even been a starter for a whole season yet and made 2nd All NBA Defensive team. I love the confidence and the belief in himself. He has his head on straight and truly loves the game and has a big heart. Literally exactly what this team desperately needs. This team has ZERO character.

[gambit1990]

There's a long history of first or high draft picks bombing out the league after a couple years. Tanking is no guarantee of improved roster.
while busts do happen, the spurs could package the pick in a trade and let another team worry about drafting the right person.

[sasaint]

facts, and Dejounte has both things

Clearly. He just needs to add the skill.

[Nivek_ogre]

Score some humility.
See Timmy Duncan.

You already got sidetracked with some above average (nothing more) pussy.
IMO that helped lead to your injury.
So STFU with your bloviating and think long term.
p.s. ebonics is retarded but I ain'ts tryins to changes that about youz.
I thought CIA Pop was on that.

Your stupid. She was fine as fuck. At his age I would of started my own YouTube channel and looked like a bitch doing it for some of that.

[r0drig0lac]

Clearly. He just needs to add the skill.
...offensive, although I think he really would have taken the next step already this season

[MultiTroll]

Your stupid. She was fine as fuck. At his age I would of started my own YouTube channel and looked like a bitch doing it for some of that.
Imo it added to the chances of him getting injured.
So much time spent attention whoring with her.
Mind before body injury is super common.
I can't prove it. You can't disprove it.

That you think she is uber fine, good for you son.
Food, women, wine tastes are all a matter of the beholder.