Derrick White: Out 6-8 weeks

[cjw]

1050762261357387780

When will this string of bad luck end?

[Cardinal]

Oh my...

When did this even happen? Did anyone notice it during the game?

[NASpurs]

Didn’t people say that he was injury prone? Par the course.

[Immortal Spur]

Unbelievable. :wow

[Leetonidas]

:pctoss is this a fucking joke

[objective]

Well, this isn't working out so well

[Immortal Spur]

Next man up... Bryn? :vomit

[rjv]

wow. just wow. someone call a curandera, witch doctor, bruja, something.

[Immortal Spur]

Gonna have to get a DPE for Murray now...

[hater]

:lmao

Time to beg Nando De Colo and the Raptors who hold his rights tbqh

He is Euro MVP

[DeadlyDynasty]

det spurs medical staff:lmao

[NASpurs]

Next man up... Bryn? :vomit

How can you go wrong with a guy named Bryn.

[hater]

:lmao

Time to beg Nando De Colo and the Raptors who hold his rights tbqh

He is Euro MVP

Pop jeed to call Putin and make it happen. Nando is in Moscow

[bklynspursfan]

What in the hell did we do to deserve this

[r0drig0lac]

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/GIF.gif

[Immortal Spur]

Did amused make the last three game threads?

[rogcl1]

The curse of Tony Parker.

[LkrFan]

I CIA Pop low key tanking? This is unbelievable.

[NASpurs]

Gonna need all men at the ready to battle for that 10th spot.

[davidbowie]

KAWHI WAS RIGHT

[emanueldavidginobili]

This is insanity!!!!!!!!

[DeadlyDynasty]

Just remember you had a chance to get Lonzo and Ingram...

[Dex]

Fuck me sideways. This is just going to be like last season all over again.

[Russ]

Only 6-8 weeks?

Wow, that's the best injury news in months!

[NASpurs]

Just remember you had a chance to get Lonzo and Ingram...

Did they come with a warranty? They probably would had been out injured too.

[Dex]

Just remember you had a chance to get Lonzo and Ingram...

:lol No we didn't. Lakers only offered a moldy In N Out burger and a half a tray of stale fries for Kawhi.

[bklynspursfan]

Fuck me sideways. This is just going to be like last season all over again.

The opposite probably lol We couldn't score last year but our defense was legit.

[K...]

https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-10-2018/GNBLtF.gif

[Chinook]

Me drafting Bryn in the fantasy draft last night makes a ton of sense now.

[Chinook]

Also: Oh my fucking god. Are you kidding me? Three straight first-rounders out. No wonder Milutinov doesn't want to come over.

[Russ]

The scary thing is that a foot injury created without contact is likely to be chronic.

Not good news for White.

But as John Lennon said, time wounds all heels.

[GhostHound]

:pctoss

[JakeCuenca]

Spurs medical team :lmao

Do these fags even know how to prepare an athlete before a game? Everyone getting injured with the slightest touch

[Pavlov]

Spurs medical team :lmao

Do these fags even know how to prepare an athlete before a game? Everyone getting injured with the slightest touchHow do you prepare heels for basketball, apo?

[TimDunkem]

det spurs medical staff:lmao

This is at the point where questions need to be raised, tbqfh.

[DPG21920]

Just remember you had a chance to get Lonzo and Ingram...

Thank God SA didn’t do that. SA has LMA/DeRozan and other win now pieces that they can flip to contenders for assets.

[buujness]

Someone's put a hit out on good Spurs guards.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol spurms patfo and medical team...

[LkrFan]

:lol No we didn't. Lakers only offered a moldy In N Out burger and a half a tray of stale fries for Kawhi.

:lmao

[objective]

Full 8 weeks would be 26-27 games.

I could see them as bad as 9-17 by the time White gets back.

Point guard play is too important to the modern game. Having 48 minutes of Mills and Bryn with their puke defense, plus 30+ minutes of Marco's trash defense is just a nightmare.

All off-season my bold prediction has been that if Murray and White both played 75 games and averaged a combined 50 minutes, then the Spurs would win 55+.

Now that Murray will play 0 and White might only play 55 games, I don't know about getting to 45 wins.

Hello, lottery!

[TDMVPDPOY]

zion sweepstakes...

[boutons_deux]

bone bruise?

plantar fasciitis?

achilles?

[loveforthegame]

More Mills and Forbes. :vomit:

[Chinook]

Pop needs to just go ahead and start Forbes so Bryn stops hurting other players.

[Robz4000]

:rollin this is ridiculous

[$pursDynasty]

We need our 'hero' back...cue the music

[ceperez]

Yes, I knew his was injury prone but this is just...

UNBELIEVABLE!

[kobyz]

still time to apologize to kawhi in the official thread!

[NASpurs]

I’m just waiting for Woj’s tweet that the Spurs signed Brandon Jennings or Monta Ellis.

[superbigtime]

Holy crap

they gotta pick someone up

[Dex]

Pop needs to just go ahead and start Forbes so Bryn stops hurting other players.

My poor avatar. I'm sorry, Manu....

[objective]

Time for POINT DAVIS

[SpurSpike]

What did the Spurs do to deserve this basketball gods? We had a miserable year full of drama last year and when things started looking up with the new core this year the BB gods kick us while we are already down by injuring half our fucking team...

Bets on who is next?

[Chinook]

Time for POINT DAVIS

Wasn't Baron trying to make a comeback?

[objective]

Wasn't Baron trying to make a comeback?

Davis Bertans will be a POINT GOD

[loveforthegame]

What did the Spurs do to deserve this basketball gods?

It’s called Karma. For all those who were wishing injury on Leonard.

[Joseph Kony]

time to tank for zion

[SuperCam]

if only spur had traded instaballer and kept the real point guard

https://media1.fdncms.com/sacurrent/imager/u/bigsquare/14390669/screen_shot_2018-08-06_at_10.52.04_am.png

[Maddog]

Also: Oh my fucking god. Are you kidding me? Three straight first-rounders out. No wonder Milutinov doesn't want to come over.

Holy *&%$
I hadn't thought of it that way.
BTW- the Spurs 2019 no 1 picks have just announced they are injured. Don't know who they are but I'm betting they just gott injured....

[Ron Swanson]

This is ridiculous

[Chinook]

Zion would have to show a lot more for me to want him. Athletic undersized PFs still don't have a place in the league.

[SAGirl]

Wow. He must have a grade 2 sprain in the ankle or something...

Out 6-8 weeks is that not the same as Walker’s meniscus surgery?

[Dex]

if only spur had traded instaballer and kept the real point guard

https://media1.fdncms.com/sacurrent/imager/u/bigsquare/14390669/screen_shot_2018-08-06_at_10.52.04_am.png

This is what we get for letting one of the Big 3 walk.

Not gonna lie...would feel a lot better right now if Tony were still here.

[rjv]

Holy *&%$
I hadn't thought of it that way.
BTW- the Spurs 2019 no 1 picks have just announced they are injured. Don't know who they are but I'm betting they just gott injured....

:lol

[SAGirl]

San Antonio media tbh. First they say it’s a precautionary... bullshit

[DPG21920]

Well, SA isn’t going to do anything crazy. They will compete with what they have and if things look bleak by the trade deadline they will have some tough decisions to make.

[cjw]

Gonna have to get a DPE for Murray now...

This doesn’t do anything - it just lets you sign a player to half that player’s salary (or the MLE, whichever is less). Murray is only making $1.5 million and half of this is the league minimum.

If a fourth player goes out and has missed three games, they will be able to add a 16th player to the active roster. But will not get any salary exceptions to work with.

[Dverde]

Get Jamal Crawford on the phone...:hungry:

[jeebus]

https://media.giphy.com/media/3o7abtdZxs97YyJyFi/giphy.gif

[SuperCam]

Well, SA isn’t going to do anything crazy. They will compete with what they have and if things look bleak by the trade deadline they will have some tough decisions to make.

Compete for what? 10th seed, because that's what a pg rotation of mills/forbes gets you in the west.


firesale trade next summer after poop retires, tbh.

[bklynspursfan]

1050777476627091456

[objective]

Week 1
1. Vs MIN
2. @ POR

Week 2
3. @ LAKERS
4. IND
5. Lakers

Week 3
6. Dallas
7. @ PHX
8. Pelicans

Week 4
9. Orlando
10. @ Miami
11. Houston

Week 5
12. @ Sacramento
13. @ PHX
14. @ Clippers

Week 6
15. Warriors
16. @ Pelicans
17. Memphis
18. @ IND
19. @ Milwaukee

Week 7
20. @ Bulls
21. @ Minnesota
22. Houston

Week 8
23. Portland
24. @ Utah
25. @ Lakers
26. Lakers

Most of 26 games against playoff hopefuls.

Only 'easy' games are Dallas, @ Phoenix, Orlando, @ Sacramento, @ Phoenix, @ Bulls

Maybe Clippers and Memphis, but those teams should be competitive early

[bklynspursfan]

Compete for what? 10th seed, because that's what a pg rotation of mills/forbes gets you in the west.


firesale trade next summer after poop retires, tbh.

Except DD will be our primary ball handler.

[SuperCam]

https://twitter.com/jimlefko/status/1050768413646356480

PATFO need to get on their knees and start begging

[DPG21920]

Compete for what? 10th seed, because that's what a pg rotation of mills/forbes gets you in the west.


firesale trade next summer after poop retires, tbh.

SA didn’t think they were a title team with Demar, but they showed they want to try and be a playoff team. That is what they are competing for.

[spursparker9]

The curse of Tony Parker.

this

[Rip Chord]

It's plantar faciitis. And anyone thinks the Spurs docs had anything to do with this, or any of the other injuries are pretty damn ignorant.

And hopefully Murrays agent doesn't screw it up and let someone besides Dr Schmidt do his ACL. He's one of the top knee docs there are, and his hands and technique are as good as any in the world.

[SpurSpike]

Wow. He must have a grade 2 sprain in the ankle or something...

Out 6-8 weeks is that not the same as Walker’s meniscus surgery?

They said heel injury not ankle which makes me think its a form of plantar fasciitis which can take a WHILE to heal.

[Chinook]

San Antonio media tbh. First they say it’s a precautionary... bullshit

Exactly. Now MCW is saying that Walker is ahead of schedule. Dunno where they're getting their info from, but it doesn't seem to be that reliable.

[DPG21920]

I think after the Kawhi fiasco, SA is not in the mood to be doing anything for media.

[DPG21920]

Can you imagine ST, after thinking they got “rid” of TP, having to deal with SA giving up assets to get him back :lmao

[timtonymanu]

Just remember you had a chance to get Lonzo and Ingram...

With our luck with the medical staff lately, they both would have been injured.

[dabom]

Can you imagine ST, after thinking they got “rid” of TP, having to deal with SA giving up assets to get him back :lmao

:lol

[SAGirl]

Holy *&%$
I hadn't thought of it that way.
BTW- the Spurs 2019 no 1 picks have just announced they are injured. Don't know who they are but I'm betting they just gott injured....
:cry

[r0drig0lac]

1050777476627091456

lmao scrub

[dbestpro]

Time to sign a 40+ year old Manu cause the younglings can't stay healthy.

[SAGirl]

Week 1
1. Vs MIN
2. @ POR

Week 2
3. @ LAKERS
4. IND
5. Lakers

Week 3
6. Dallas
7. @ PHX
8. Pelicans

Week 4
9. Orlando
10. @ Miami
11. Houston

Week 5
12. @ Sacramento
13. @ PHX
14. @ Clippers

Week 6
15. Warriors
16. @ Pelicans
17. Memphis
18. @ IND
19. @ Milwaukee

Week 7
20. @ Bulls
21. @ Minnesota
22. Houston

Week 8
23. Portland
24. @ Utah
25. @ Lakers
26. Lakers

Most of 26 games against playoff hopefuls.

Only 'easy' games are Dallas, @ Phoenix, Orlando, @ Sacramento, @ Phoenix, @ Bulls

Maybe Clippers and Memphis, but those teams should be competitive early
Even the “easy” games against Dallas aren’t easy they have given the Spurs fits last season and Smith Jr and Doncic look like they can repeat the Trae Young, Taurean Prince Atlanta Hawks act of last game.

[Chinook]

If Paul had any PG skills or at least really good lateral quickness, he could make some sense. He has the girth to check bigger players, so he could protect DeRozan there. At his best, he was a fine enough role-player. But he didn't seem to have the upside to make sense.

[Flawless]

:pctoss

[Rip Chord]

Walker is going to be more like 4 weeks with medial meniscectomy. He had a repair on the same knee in college which likely led to the problem. These guys are all in the right hands. Spurs docs are the same ones that worked on Duncans knee, twice. Did Robinsons Jones fx surgery, and Bertans ACL. They know what they are doing. For the record- The problem with the Kahwitter deal, is that he was diagnosed correctly but he didn't follow the recommended rehab protocol. His team stepped in and put their own rehab together. Saw how that worked out. Oh, and he's a pussy.

[SAGirl]

It's plantar faciitis. And anyone thinks the Spurs docs had anything to do with this, or any of the other injuries are pretty damn ignorant.

And hopefully Murrays agent doesn't screw it up and let someone besides Dr Schmidt do his ACL. He's one of the top knee docs there are, and his hands and technique are as good as any in the world.
Word. You know for sure it’s plantar fasciitis? Is that chronic? Can it recurr?

[SAGirl]

They said heel injury not ankle which makes me think its a form of plantar fasciitis which can take a WHILE to heal.
Thanks .

[SAGirl]

Exactly. Now MCW is saying that Walker is ahead of schedule. Dunno where they're getting their info from, but it doesn't seem to be that reliable.
How can he be ahead of schedule? He just got injured last Friday or something. That’s irresponsible reporting. Maybe his surgery was so successful that there’s no inflammation or anything and he’s looking forward to starting rehab soon but saying it’s ahead of schedule is stupid so far ahead that it’s only 5 days from the time he had the surgery.

[Chinook]

How can he be ahead of schedule? He just got injured last Friday or something. That’s irresponsible reporting. Maybe his surgery was so successful that there’s no inflammation or anything and he’s looking forward to starting rehab soon but saying it’s ahead of schedule is stupid so far ahead that it’s only 5 days from the time he had the surgery.

Essentially saying that the original projection was too long, not that Walker made some dramatic improvement.

[Rip Chord]

It was always going to be about 4 weeks on Walker. With the regards to irresponsible reporting, well ya.

I would also imagine White will get treated with a PRP injection. Hopefully speed up the process.

[gambit1990]

rip spurs.

...

[SAGirl]

Essentially saying that the original projection was too long, not that Walker made some dramatic improvement.
Ok thanks. In which case they still reported that initial projections wrong. Their choice of words is misleading too.

[baseline bum]

Why can't it ever be Gasol?

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Three young guards out with non-contact injuries in a week. What are players made of now....glass??

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Why can't it ever be Gasol?

If you're standing still the risk of injury falls dramatically.

[Dex]

1050780375360786432

Cut my life into pieces.

[SpursDynasty85]

Ok. This is getting laughable at this point. Get George Hill back here please.

[BackHome]

What in the hell did we do to deserve this

Like it or not it the Trump curse everyone who goes up against him has bad shit happen to them. Me no Like but it’s on Pop

[teddygreen]

A Milos Teodosic trade coming up???

[SuperCam]

too many elite, good, even average pgs in this league to trot out a scrub like bryn for 30+ minutes a night. spur will have problem keeping even bad teams under 100

[BackHome]

I like White and Walker but I don’t feel confident they can stay healthy. That means in draft
we are looking at best
PG, SG, or SF with our top 5 lottery pick. :hungry:

[Siski]

I wonder if White’s poor running form has finally caught up to him

[Harry Callahan]

This is at the point where questions need to be raised, tbqfh.

That is horse**** post.

[dbestpro]

Three young guards out with non-contact injuries in a week. What are players made of now....glass??

Yes. The old NBA where defense was allowed had players who were big, strong, and tall. Now, its the toothpick league.

[ThaBigFundamental21]

Lonzo with knee problems. How his season plays out in terms of health remains to be seen.

[TimDunkem]

Three young guards out with non-contact injuries in a week. What are players made of now....glass??

This is what happens when an ever declining team and medical staff draft softies.

[Harry Callahan]

With our luck with the medical staff lately, they both would have been injured.

They have both had injuries in Los Angeles and that LA team is looking to get rid of one or both in the near future so they can short cut things as usual. The rebuild with young players out there has been for the most part a failure because have already blown some of the lottery picks.

[sammy]

This is what we get for letting one of the Big 3 walk.

Not gonna lie...would feel a lot better right now if Tony were still here.

I agree! No point guard? WTH!

[sammy]

Forbes at PG! We are so screwed! Damn, too bad Manu retired! Son of bitch! Someone has put a curse on the Spurs! Time to light those freaking candles!

[TimDunkem]

1050780375360786432

Cut my life into pieces.

Spurs are literally at their last resort. Smh

[keithington1]

Just shoot for the 8th seed. Spurs will likely get a good draft pick around 15 along with Torontos late pick. Spurs could possibly move up a little. This is actually great for the Spurs future. It only sucks for LMA and Derozan because they are in their prime.

[Spurs Brazil]

Derrick White became the Spurs' latest to hit the injured list after tearing a ligament in his right heel, an injury coach Gregg Popovich said would keep the 24-year-old out for six to eight weeks.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Another-man-down-Spurs-lose-White-to-heel-injury-13302376.php

[TimDunkem]

:lmao Jesus...Forbes at PG is going to be like the Roger Mason Jr. Circa 2009 experiment all over again.

Whatever improvments Charity Case made this summer is all going to go down the drain once he inevitably loses his already fragile confidence because he can't dribble up the floor and can no longer get shots up just like Mason.

:lmao Fucking book that shit.

[NASpurs]

Just shoot for the 8th seed. Spurs will likely get a good draft pick around 15 along with Torontos late pick. Spurs could possibly move up a little. This is actually great for the Spurs future. It only sucks for LMA and Derozan because they are in their prime.

That's what they were trying to shoot for with everyone healthy. :lol

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Burn it down

[peacemaker885]

Trade for Ball.

[kobyz]

Did bryn ever play pg in his life?

[silverblackfan]

This is going to be a brutal 6-8 weeks without a PG and using undersized SG as replacements.
Even this homer fan is starting to wonder if the Spurs Curse is really happening.

[dbestpro]

Forbes is going to light it up, and become the next Curry. He is going to grab the starting PG job and never let it go.

[Ice009]

WHAT THE FUCK. I cannot believe it. How the fuck is he out 6-8 weeks with a heel injury?

[r0drig0lac]

too many elite, good, even average pgs in this league to trot out a scrub like bryn for 30+ minutes a night. spur will have problem keeping even bad teams under 100

[Chinook]

This is going to be a brutal 6-8 weeks without a PG and using undersized SG as replacements.
Even this homer fan is starting to wonder if the Spurs Curse is really happening.

The Spurs ran Mills, Green, Anderson, Aldridge and Gasol in many games last year. Won most of them. You can even argue that was when the team was peaking last season. I think they're going to win more games than people realize, though their ceiling is undeniably lower.

[Robz4000]

The Spurs ran Mills, Green, Anderson, Aldridge and Gasol in many games last year. Won most of them. You can even argue that was when the team was peaking last season. I think they're going to win more games than people realize, though their ceiling is undeniably lower.

Green, Fathead, and LMA were all great to elite defenders though.

[Chinook]

Green, Fathead, and LMA were all great to elite defenders though.

Yes, but DeRozan and Gay are better offensive players. It may not balance out all the way, but I don't think the lack of depth will lead to as many early losses as some fear. Now come December (the team's worst historic month), we could start really seeing issues.

[Robz4000]

Yes, but DeRozan and Gay are better offensive players. It may not balance out all the way, but I don't think the lack of depth will lead to as many early losses as some fear. Now come December (the team's worst historic month), we could start really seeing issues.

Playing together will prolly mitigate their effectiveness considering both DDR and Gay like the same spots, and even LMA to the same extent. If all three (or even just one of them) were great three point shooters they could survive, but the lack of chemistry will really hurt (on top of the poor defense).

[8FOR!3]

I think White/Forbes/Patty were going to play a lot of offball with DDR anyways so losing White isn’t the end of the world just yet, but obviously it sucks all our young guys with upside are out

[Chinook]

Playing together will prolly mitigate their effectiveness considering both DDR and Gay like the same spots, and even LMA to the same extent. If all three (or even just one of them) were great three point shooters they could survive, but the lack of chemistry will really hurt (on top of the poor defense).

Gay playing up a position would help a lot. I do agree about the risk of Gay starting and would still prefer it not to happen if I could be avoided. Using that 15th spot and two-way slot for a player. They may need both going forward. Gotta hope they find a solution for the PG with the two-way and wish they can cycle through SFs with the roster spot.

[HankChinaski]

IF it is Plantar fasciitis it isn't a debilitating injury once healed. Typically occurs through over-pronation of the foot. Which at first feels like soreness in the heel an then arch of the foot. Once the foot warms up it goes away temporarily then flares right up much worse during activity. If goes untreated through various forms of rest, arch support, stretching exercises, Cort shot to reduce inflammation it can lead to heel spurs from the tendons in the arch of the foot pulling off chips of bones in the heel induce the heel pain.

That isn't a full technical description but a general description from early to worse. Simple rest, reduced activity of the arch stretching from the gait cycle of the foot from heel strike to push off of the forefoot will have it heal over time.

More than likely it involves a cortisone shot in the heel to reduce inflammation, customized inserts if they are not already wearing them in their foot wear, simple stretching techniques like frozen water bottles rolled underneath the arch of the foot, rubber band stretches. 6-8 weeks sounds about right. Considering the profession he can sit back an recuperate within that time frame easily. Those of us with real jobs that require us to pay bills an stand on our feet hours at a time the healing process becomes prolonged an reaggravated due to continued inflammation of the injury.

Hope that helps an isn't confusing. But I don't know if that is what he is suffering from. Just responding to a previous comment indicating plantar fasciitis.

[Mugen]

Bryn: "I got us"

Anybody with a half a fucking brain:

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/lostmedia/images/8/89/Robert_Budd_Dwyer_suicide.jpeg/revision/latest?cb=20170211124624

[Spurs Brazil]

marcJSpearsESPN
Another Spurs guard sidelined. Spurs guard Derrick White has a left plantar fascia tear.

[SAGirl]

Derrick White became the Spurs' latest to hit the injured list after tearing a ligament in his right heel, an injury coach Gregg Popovich said would keep the 24-year-old out for six to eight weeks.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/spurs/article/Another-man-down-Spurs-lose-White-to-heel-injury-13302376.php

well that's not plantar fasciitis... Torn ligament... Thanks for sharing but wth? How?

[TDomination]

Forbes is going to light it up, and become the next Curry. He is going to grab the starting PG job and never let it go.

Haha thatd be hilarious.

I cant imagine what ST would do if he leads us to a winning record while white is out and actually does well.

[Spurs Brazil]

well that's not plantar fasciitis... Torn ligament... Thanks for sharing but wth? How?

Well it looks like McDonald was wrong.

https://www.nba.com/spurs/news/spurs-injury-update-10/12/18
Spurs guard Derrick White underwent an MRI examination last night in San Antonio that revealed a left plantar fascia tear. The injury occurred during the Spurs-Hawks preseason game on Oct. 10. A timeline for his return will be determined at a later date.​

[SAGirl]

Left plantar fascia tear. Alleges out indefinitely. The 6-8 weeks may be a tough estimate could be more.
1050804542282129408

[Immortal Spur]

Whatever chance we had at elevating our ceiling went out the window officially w that injury. Lonnie, Murray, now White in consecutive games. In the preseason. Can’t make this stuff up man. It’s like all the excitement for this season is being sapped. Watching the youth grow is probably my favorite facet of watching the Spurs.

[SAGirl]

Forbes is going to light it up, and become the next Curry. He is going to grab the starting PG job and never let it go.
Based on the last game I think he'll be fine. He can score and looks improved from last year. He's not a PG but with derozan LMA, and likely Pau starting, the PG role was going to be small anyways.

Spurs are out players though and that leaves them vulnerable to getting overplayed and unfortunately injuries. It's not even worth mentioning defense bc they already made the choice to eschew defensive personnel in favor of shooters and that's what we will see for now.

At least Walker looks like he will be back sooner than initially projected.

[TE]

Lol. This is some shitty luck.

whatever

[Rip Chord]

Micro tear(s) are plantar fasciitis. Plantar fascia rupture would be if it is an aggressive tear, usually traumatic, which rarely happens. Without knowing the MR, its hard to say. But, it likely is indeed plantar fasciitis.

[Budkin]

Ok the Kawhi curse is real. WTF.

[Blackhaus]

Just put the ball in DeRozan’s hands and put Forbes or mills off the ball. Dede has to play close to 40min a game

[Kobe'sAchilles]

I'm not blaming anyone BUT Kawhi hurt, Danny torn groin, Walker, Murray, and now White all out this year. It's bad optics for Spurs medical staff

[SAGirl]

Whatever chance we had at elevating our ceiling went out the window officially w that injury. Lonnie, Murray, now White in consecutive games. In the preseason. Can’t make this stuff up man. It’s like all the excitement for this season is being sapped. Watching the youth grow is probably my favorite facet of watching the Spurs.
True. Mine too.

[timvp]

Three straight non-contact injuries in three straight preseason games to three straight first round draft pick guards. I've run out of PCs to toss.

[BackHome]

Nope not the medical staff have to look at the trainers why are they all getting hurt with no contact.

[Biggems]

Fuck this offseason......

[Biggems]

Kawhi and his bitch ass put a voodoo curse on our guys.

[kobyz]

at least 12 weeks!

[BatManu20]

Trade for Tony :cry

[BackHome]

Well a lot of posters wanted a rebuild well here us go enjoy :reading

[NASpurs]

I can only imagine how depressed DDR is going to be mid season when the Spurs are 10 games below .500 while the Craptors are fighting for the first seed. Might need to put him on a preemptive suicide watch and shut down his IG account to avoid his passive aggressive cryptic shit.

[BatManu20]

Make the call, RC.


https://airalamo.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/29/files/2015/10/jimmer-fredette-nba-san-antonio-spurs-media-day.jpg

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I think we'll see DDR running the offense. The PG position will just be another shooter on the floor. Forbes isn't capable of running the show.

[Hoops Czar]

Don't worry, Spurs still have Tony Parker... oh wait. Det Karma be a bitch.

[DJR210]

time to tank for zion

[Russ]

Forbes is going to light it up, and become the next Curry. He is going to grab the starting PG job and never let it go.

Forbes has a high upside (very similar to the three that went down).

Forbes could be a breakout player this year -- the only good news out of all of this.

[spurs10]

Step right up Bryn!

[SpursDynasty85]

I read it is a plantar fascia tear. From what I have seen players have to deal with it almost all season. Can anyone confirm that even if he is back that he will be limited (in pain) for months after?

[Spurs9]

We want Jimmer. :danceclub

[SAGirl]

I read it is a plantar fascia tear. From what I have seen players have to deal with it almost all season. Can anyone confirm that even if he is back that he will be limited (in pain) for months after?
What I know is that he's now out indefinitely with updates to be provided later. It takes a long time to heal anyways so... walker will be back sooner for sure. Don't expect White back for 2 months at least.

[ceperez]

Make the call, RC.


https://airalamo.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/29/files/2015/10/jimmer-fredette-nba-san-antonio-spurs-media-day.jpg

Did the Chinese season start already?

[spurraider21]

If Paul had any PG skills or at least really good lateral quickness, he could make some sense. He has the girth to check bigger players, so he could protect DeRozan there. At his best, he was a fine enough role-player. But he didn't seem to have the upside to make sense.
paul hasn't even shown he belongs on an NBA court let alone be a starting point guard

[RD2191]

WTF

[Chinook]

paul hasn't even shown he belongs on an NBA court let alone be a starting point guard

He didn't need to be a legit PG to start with DeRozan. Being a bigger Patrick Beverly would have been fine. We're talking about getting the team through a season here, not beating Golden State en route to a title.

[DAF86]

:lmao

[DAF86]

All that Spurstalk karma is starting to kick in with some vengeance.

[SpursDynasty85]

What I know is that he's now out indefinitely with updates to be provided later. It takes a long time to heal anyways so... walker will be back sooner for sure. Don't expect White back for 2 months at least.

Darn. Didn't know that. Makes sense. I have a feeling Bryn will fill in pretty well until Walker comes back. And it will be exciting to see Walker probably get some minutes by ASB. But one more injury to the backcourt would be a disaster.

[r0drig0lac]

He didn't need to be a legit PG to start with DeRozan. Being a bigger Patrick Beverly would have been fine. We're talking about getting the team through a season here, not beating Golden State en route to a title.

if he could get to that level he would probably be getting marcus smart money

[tesseractive]

Yes, but DeRozan and Gay are better offensive players. It may not balance out all the way, but I don't think the lack of depth will lead to as many early losses as some fear. Now come December (the team's worst historic month), we could start really seeing issues.
So we're looking at trying to win some games 120-118?

[Chinook]

So we're looking at trying to win some games 120-118?

It'll be closer to that, yes. But Pop's a good coach. He'll get guys in the right positions to limit the opposing team's three-point success.

[baseline bum]

Just shoot for the 8th seed.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7fjDS0jKiE

[Maddog]

paul hasn't even shown he belongs on an NBA court let alone be a starting point guard

We are at a point where we could legitimately start talking about Cliff Paul...

[Kenny Loggins]

Unbelievable😓

[objective]

This season will be so hard to watch now.

I am not looking forward to a team struggling for .500 while having to watch 32+ minutes of Mills and 30+ minutes of Forbes and 30+ minutes of Marco.

Watching Murray develop would have been entertaining. Same for Walker. Same for White.

But seeing the zero penetration, zero pick and roll, zero defense Mills and Forbes show ... Don't think I even care enough to watch 82 games of that mess.

[Hoops Czar]

This season will be so hard to watch now.

I am not looking forward to a team struggling for .500 while having to watch 32+ minutes of Mills and 30+ minutes of Forbes and 30+ minutes of Marco.

Watching Murray develop would have been entertaining. Same for Walker. Same for White.

But seeing the zero penetration, zero pick and roll, zero defense Mills and Forbes show ... Don't think I even care enough to watch 82 games of that mess.

White and Walker will be back in December.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Thank God SA didn’t do that. SA has LMA/DeRozan and other win now pieces that they can flip to contenders for assets.
win what now, exactly?

[DeadlyDynasty]

I read it is a plantar fascia tear. From what I have seen players have to deal with it almost all season. Can anyone confirm that even if he is back that he will be limited (in pain) for months after?
It limited Antonio Gates for 2 seasons

[objective]

White and Walker will be back in December.

I'm not counting on White. They've already changed the timetable to 'indefinite'

[JeffDuncan]

What kind of shoes are the Spurs wearing these days?

[boutons_deux]

I'm not counting on White. They've already changed the timetable to 'indefinite'

plantar tear certainly doesn't sound like "8 weeks"

[Mr. Body]

Good Christ.

[rogcl1]

[QUOTE=SpursDynasty85;9559662]I read it is a plantar fascia tear. From what I have seen players have to deal with it almost all season. Can anyone confirm tI

I am an active 66 year old man and had it in both heels caused by wearing those worthless Croc shoes. I chose not to get a cortisone shot due to the fact I had already had several recently for another ailment. You can do stretches, sleep with a splint and rest to help healing. One side went away on its own in about two months but the other heel lingered for a year. It sucks. The other day I went to the doctor for a severe sinus infection and they gave me a steroid commonly prescribed for arthritis and inflamation. The other heel pain has now almost totally dissappeared. I do not know if this is temporary or not. This ailment is painful and has a life and mind of its own. It is the tears in the plantar fascia that causes the inflamation. Hope he is a quick healer.

[gambit1990]

correct me if i'm wrong but my impression is that non contact injuries are... just waiting to happen? as in they're ticking time bombs?

could any blame be placed on the training/medical staff or would these injuries have happened regardless of a different conditioning regimen, etc.?

[objective]

White never had any particular foot issues, has he? Healthy all through college, his issues last year were with his wrist. I don't remember what he had in summer league, a groin or hamstring issue?

[weebo]

I was all in for trading Leonard and Aldridge for picks and/or young players....

[YGWHI]

correct me if i'm wrong but my impression is that non contact injuries are... just waiting to happen? as in they're ticking time bombs?

could any blame be placed on the training/medical staff or would these injuries have happened regardless of a different conditioning regimen, etc.?

Conditioning has a lot to do. I remember Suns's trainer Aaron Nelson talking about these type of non-contac injuries and how conditioning could prevent them, their revolutionary system to evaluate when a muscle is thigh or weak, how it affects tendons...

I also remember how Nash changed team, left Suns' staff and couldn't play anymore.

[SAGirl]

White never had any particular foot issues, has he? Healthy all through college, his issues last year were with his wrist. I don't remember what he had in summer league, a groin or hamstring issue?
Just looked it up. He had a hamstring injury in the summer.
http://www.buffzone.com/ci_32011889/injury-slows-derrick-white-down-stretch-nba-summer

[Pavlov]

Conditioning has a lot to do. I remember Suns's trainer Aaron Nelson talking about these type of non-contac injuries and how conditioning could prevent them, the system to evaluate when a muscle is thigh or weak, how it affects tendons...

I also remember how Nash changed team, left Suns' staff and couldn't play anymore.:lol he was 39 when he couldn't play anymore.

[YGWHI]

:lol he was 39 when he couldn't play anymore.
Just a year before he was playing +30mpg for the Suns, averaging +10apg and almost 50-40-90 shooting.

But if you want to deny Suns' staff/Aaron Nelson were ELITE, better than anyone, they even receveid awards for best trainer of the year...I can't help.

[BackHome]

And he played with Back Door Kooby who never gave up the ball.

[Chomag]

Good Lord! Maybe what Spurs need more then anything right now is new trainers...

[Pavlov]

Just a year before he was playing +30mpg for the Suns, averaging +10apg and almost 50-40-90 shooting.He missed a quarter of that season.

Dude was getting old. It happens.

[Rip Chord]

You guys think that the Spurs staff of trainers and docs don't do preemptive conditioning? They are leaders in the world at it. You can do everything right, and shit just happens. The way they evaluate, rehab, and treat the players is what makes them stand apart. There is a reason Dr Schmidt is the president of the NBA physicians association. Just because one completely ignorant mute with no huevos didn't follow their protocol, people are questioning the staff? One more time, Leonard is completely at fault. He would not rehab with the Spurs protocol, electing to have his team develop one. Then, when it wasn't healing fast enough, he looked for blame. The Spurs saw that, his teammates saw that. And quite honestly, he could have played. Just like he could have played with a low grade ankle sprain against the Warriors. If anyone thinks that Lebron, or Kobe, or Timmy wouldn't have even rentered that game, much less return in the series, they are oblivious. Leonard laid down. Now people are just plain talking crazy. Let's don't forget Kawhi broke his finger a few years ago and the Spurs team handled that surgically. And Manus hand. And Timmys knee. Twice. And Robinsons foot. Bertans ACL. And on and on. All the medical staff talk comes from one guy. That doesn't seem strange to anyone questioning? Walker will be fine in month. White will be managed and return in possibly a month and a half. And Murray will be ready to go next year. Kawhi will always be the guy that quit on the zspurs.

[exstatic]

Just remember you had a chance to get Lonzo and Ingram...

No we didn’t. LAs offer was Kuzma/Hart.

[Pavlov]

No we didn’t. LAs offer was Kuzma/Hart.Today's Laker trolls....

[YGWHI]

He missed a quarter of that season.

Dude was getting old. It happens.

In his last year with the Suns, he missed 20 games and most of them were really rest. Because Gentry isn't D'Antoni, he believes in resting vets.

[Pavlov]

In his last year with the Suns, he missed 20 games and most of them were really rest. Because Gentry isn't D'Antoni, he believes in resting vets.Why was he "resting" 13 more games than the previous year under Gentry?

And the year before that why did he "rest" Nash only one game?

[Keepin' it real]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/937470baa766d043d75f6b189d658d6a/tenor.gif?itemid=8775495

[2Cleva]

Walker. Murray. White. And now Gay.

http://media.giphy.com/media/pDsCoECKh1Pa/giphy.gif

[YGWHI]

Just because one completely ignorant mute with no huevos didn't follow their protocol, people are questioning the staff? One more time, Leonard is completely at fault. He would not rehab with the Spurs protocol, electing to have his team develop one.

I wonder when Spurs' fans version went from "he's not injured, he's faking an injury" to "he was injured, but he didn't follow protocol"


Let's don't forget Kawhi broke his finger a few years ago and the Spurs team handled that surgically.

Kawhi didn't need surgery.

But I remember he needed a 2nd opinion in 2015 because Spurs' medical staff "have never seen an injury like that"...those were Pop's words.

I also remember that Danny and Patty aggravated their injuries playing for the team with the "most conservative" medical staff in the league. What an irony

[YGWHI]

Why was he "resting" 13 more games than the previous year under Gentry?

And the year before that why did he "rest" Nash only one game?

Because he needed it. Getting older isn't easy but he was playing at elite level until his last day as Sun. This is other thing that you can't deny...

[Pavlov]

Getting older:lol

[NASpurs]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/jmcdonald_saen/status/1050864323269152769?s=21

[YGWHI]

:lol
Denying Aaron Nelson's work :lol

[bklynspursfan]

Pop doesn't often speak on timeline's, so this is obviously much better than what was initially reported. Hopefully...

1050865799684972544

[Pavlov]

Denying Aaron Nelson's work :lolDenying the existence of time.:lol

[Rip Chord]

Of course Pop said he has never seen an injury like that! Think about it. You don't get the sarcasm? And think about the list of other things the staff has done for players. 30 years worth. Pick out what you want, but the staff has the best record of treatment in the league. Chris Paul aggravated his hammy in the playoffs. Was that Dr Lowes fault? Dr Lowe blew their chance at a ring? Paul elected to play. Just like Danny did. Because they are gamers. The entire team knew Kawhi was ready. They supported him like a teammate should, until it became blatantly obvious. He had to go to 4 different Orthopods to get the diagnosis he wanted. Go ask any of the NBA team docs, and they will concur on both the diagnosis and rehab. Go ask them privateley, and they will tell you Kawhi could have played early on last year.

Not a Kawhi thread, but damn. White will be fine. Nothing could have been done to prevent plantar fasciitis. Except not playing.

[YGWHI]

Denying the existence of time.:lol
Denying the influence of elite staff... :lol

I wonder if this would finish like that convo about snowballs, just in case...before your next 30 replies...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c-pm_6kvyU

[Pavlov]

Denying the influence of elite staff... :lolI don't deny they're good, but so what? Everyone but you knows Nash fell off because he was getting old.

You just want to bash the Spurs staff because that is your agenda. You will always take every opportunity to do so.

[Chinook]

Pop doesn't often speak on timeline's, so this is obviously much better than what was initially reported. Hopefully...

1050865799684972544

Pop's like it might be two if we can get that hyperbolic time chamber set up.

[r0drig0lac]

:lmao

https://twitter.com/jmcdonald_saen/status/1050864323269152769?s=21

jesus

[YGWHI]

The entire team knew Kawhi was ready.
Kawhi wasn't ready then and he's just 70% old Kawhi, his injury affected and changed his game.

At this point, after his preseasons games, it's very stupid to repeat he was "ready" when it's pretty clear, he wasn't and the injury was legit.

[Rip Chord]

Of course Pop said he has never seen an injury like that! Think about it. You don't get the sarcasm? And think about the list of other things the staff has done for players. 30 years worth. Single out what you want, but the staff has the best record of treatment in the league. Chris Paul aggravated his hammy in the playoffs. Was that Dr Lowes fault? Dr Lowe blew their chance at a ring? Paul elected to play through it. Just like Danny did his, and he said as much. Because they are gamers. The entire team knew Kawhi was ready. They supported him like a teammate should, until it became blatantly obvious. He had to go to 4 different Orthopods to get the diagnosis he wanted. Go ask any of the NBA team docs, and they will concur on both the diagnosis and rehab the Spurs staff gave him. Which, btw, they all routinely collaborate on. Go ask them privateley, and they will tell you Kawhi could have played early on last year with that injury and the recovery time frame. It's just the fact.

Not a Kawhi thread, but damn. Point is, White will be fine. Nothing could have been done to prevent plantar fasciitis. Except not playing. Don't go looking for blame. We already had to go thru that divisive bs.

[YGWHI]

I don't deny they're good, but so what? Everyone but you knows Nash fell off because he was getting old.

You just want to bash the Spurs staff because that is your agenda. You will always take every opportunity to do so.

I've been saying the same thing about the misdiagnosis/mishandeling since March. This is not an opportunistic comment, I truly believe it.

[wildbill2u]

I CIA Pop low key tanking? This is unbelievable.

The hell with this season. Let's go for the lottery. We've had good luck there in the few times we made it. Maybe we could get the future DROB or Timmy.

[SAGirl]

Pop doesn't often speak on timeline's, so this is obviously much better than what was initially reported. Hopefully...

1050865799684972544
I actually wonder if it's not some confusion with Walker who was expected to be out 6-8 weeks and it's been reported that his timeline is shorter than initially reported by the press. The last on White was that he's out indefinitely. I frankly don't trust S.A. Local media.

[YGWHI]

Chris Paul aggravated his hammy in the playoffs. Was that Dr Lowes fault? Dr Lowe blew their chance at a ring? Paul elected to play through it. Just like Danny did his, and he said as much

The difference between CP3 and Danny is one guy plays for a coach who will put an injured player 40 minutes on court, the other guy played for a "conservative" coach who wouldn't play injured players...until he already did.


Kawhi could have played early on last year with that injury and the recovery time frame. It's just the fact.

Just re-watch his preseasons games to realize how dumb you sound.

He lost lift, can't jump, can't shoot...His injury changed his game, only a blind guy could deny this.

Anyway, it's nice that you and your braille keyboard joined ST, Rip.

[Rip Chord]

Ya man. A medical staff that has 30 years of nothing but accolades from players, former players, coaches, staff members, peers, industry people, and media. In fact, the lead doc was elected to lead the entire nba physicians association by his peers.

And then one guy that hires a family member that knows nothing about the industry, is money hungry, wants to make a name for himself, wants his nephew in a major market, and has teamates that know he can suit up and play.

Damn, it was right in front of me. I can't believe I didn't trust and believe Kawhi and his camp. Makes so much sense when you look at it that way.

[bklynspursfan]

I actually wonder if it's not some confusion with Walker who was expected to be out 6-8 weeks and it's been reported that his timeline is shorter than initially reported by the press. The last on White was that he's out indefinitely. I frankly don't trust S.A. Local media.

I think it was Shams who put out the indefinitely tag on him, but yea. 2-4 weeks would fall in that indefinite category. That would be great news of course.

Maybe they'll keep feeding Jabari fake info for his antics last year.

[Pavlov]

I've been saying the same thing about the misdiagnosis/mishandeling since March. This is not an opportunistic comment, I truly believe it.Of course you believe in your agenda.

[YGWHI]

Ya man. A medical staff that has 30 years of nothing but accolades from players, former players, coaches, staff members, peers, industry people, and media. In fact, the lead doc was elected to lead the entire nba physicians association by his peers.

And then one guy that hires a family member that knows nothing about the industry, is money hungry, wants to make a name for himself, wants his nephew in a major market, and has teamates that know he can suit up and play.

Damn, it was right in front of me. I can't believe I didn't trust and believe Kawhi and his camp. Makes so much sense when you look at it that way.

-I've been very critical of Kawhi's camp for their unprofessional way...Don't try to play that card with me.

-In your previous posts, Kawhi was already injure but didn't follow the treatments. In your last post...he faked the injury to go to a big market.

Sorry but... :lol

[Rip Chord]

It's not even a question. The entire NBA ortho community knows it. As does the rest of the NBA. Then there are those with agendas.

[objective]

I actually wonder if it's not some confusion with Walker who was expected to be out 6-8 weeks and it's been reported that his timeline is shorter than initially reported by the press. The last on White was that he's out indefinitely. I frankly don't trust S.A. Local media.

I agree. McDonald has proven over his long tenure that he's not dependable when it comes to anything Spurs related. I would have to see the video.

[YGWHI]

Of course you believe in your agenda.
There is no need for agendas when facts are pretty obvious now.

Do you think the whole thing makes me happy? I really hate having been right about this.

I find sad to see an MVP caliber player becoming an inferior player due an injury. More when the injury was mishandled and some fans still deny he was injured.

[Pavlov]

There is no need for agendas when facts are pretty obvious now.

Do you think the whole thing makes me happy? I really hate having been right about this.

I find sad to see an MVP caliber player becoming an inferior player due an injury. More when the injury was mishandled and some fans still deny he was injured.:lol of course you love saying you're right whether it's true or not.

Didn't the Spurs say the condition was degenerative in the first place?

[Rip Chord]

YG-

It was known early on. You can write about it, and I hope you don't like it. Nor do any of us. Kawhi didn't turn out to be what we had hoped for. Every Orthopod from about October on had one of two thoughts. It's in his head, or it's his camp. Good to see the extra few months have gotten him right, though. Good for him.

[YGWHI]

It's not even a question. The entire NBA ortho community knows it. As does the rest of the NBA. Then there are those with agendas.

:lol

In which parallel world? I wonder if you really follow this league or this preseason.

The rest of NBA is seeing that Kawhi isn't the player he once was....More they realize his injury was legit, more media is questioning the Spurs' medical staff.

Like it or not, this is what's happening.
And it will get worse in 1-2 months when haters can't use "rust" as excuse anymore.

[JPB]

The irony seriously...TP leaving for a playing time issue.

[YGWHI]

:lol of course you love saying you're right whether it's true or not.
Trust me, not in this case.


Didn't the Spurs say the condition was degenerative in the first place?
We just heard them questioned his injury in public in a way like he wasn't injured and they cleared him to play.

I doubt they talked about the type of injury when they didn't even believe he had one.

[Rip Chord]

YG- you either know it, and know the Ortho industry, or not. It's disappointing for sure. Hang on to what you want in your world. I hate how it turned out as much as anyone. But this wasn't on the Spurs or staff. If they had bungled it, the community would know. As does the entire NBA community. They are seeing nothing of what you speak. It's well known. But I'm ok to know what I know and let you have your opinion. Doesn't change a shitty situation. You can call me what you want, or use your own views. I'm just telling it what it is from the medical and NBA community. I don't really give a rats ass about him anymore. But I can tell you the medical staff is the best in the NBA.

[YGWHI]

But I can tell you the medical staff is the best in the NBA.
The best and most conservative medical staff in the world cleared an injured player to play. Again, what an irony.

[Pavlov]

We just heard them questioned his injury in public in a way like he wasn't injured and they cleared him to play.

I doubt they talked about the type of injury when they didn't even believe he had one.Yeah, it's safe to say you're wrong.


The Spurs have always called the injury quadriceps tendinopathy, which is a disease of the tendon that has a degenerative effect on the muscle by keeping it in a constant state of exhaustion.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs

[YGWHI]

Yeah, it's safe to say you're wrong.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23366667/inside-tension-kawhi-leonard-spurs

So...it's safe to say he wasn't faking an injury, right?

And the Spurs' medical staff cleared an injured player to play, right?

While they were questioning his injury in public knowing his injury was legit?

I guess I'm not wrong after all.

[Pavlov]

So...it's safe to say he wasn't faking an injury, right?

And the Spurs' medical staff cleared an injured player to play, right?

I guess I'm not wrong after all.Yes, you were wrong. I'm happy to tell you you were wrong.

You were wrong.

[Rip Chord]

Of course. It's just hard to rehab a guys head or a crazy relative. Not in any standard course of treatment. He was ok to go. Just as he is now. I hear it in your writing. You want to believe. It's just not true. He/ they completely manipulated this entire thing. Kawhi is not the guy you think, or hope he is. I can tell you this, after he and Pop met. It was basically give me 2 scrubs and a bag of chips. Just get him the Fck out of here. He was that bad of a teammate.

[YGWHI]

Yes, you were wrong. I'm happy to tell you you were wrong.

You were wrong.

Yeah... I wonder why you can't answer those questions.

You can't admit they made a mistake, cleared an injured player who wasn't ready to play, and doubted a legit injury.

[Pavlov]

Yeah... I wonder why you can't answer those questions.

You can't admit they made a mistake, cleared an injured player who wasn't ready to play, and doubted a legit injury.Looks like they cleared a player with a degenerative condition to play since playing itself wouldn't make it worse. Your observations on him this preseason only confirm he has a degenerative condition.

good job:tu

[BillMc]

https://twitter.com/jimlefko/status/1050768413646356480

PATFO need to get on their knees and start begging


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3s0TkufXA38

[YGWHI]

He was ok to go. Just as he is now.

:lmao

Missing bunnies, dunks....37% FG .16% 3P this preseason. Yeah "he was ok and he is now" This is the MVP candidate we knew before, right?

Just keep your braille keyboard away, Rip!

[BWS-1994]

And I thought guard depth and only wing defense will be the problem coming forward :(

[Rip Chord]

He had an injury. It was diagnosed correctly. He was given a rehab protocol. He didn't follow it. He STILL was ready to play. Albeit later than he would have been. He/ and is crazy ass uncle proceeded to show their true colors. I wanted him to be different too man. Who knows what his motivations were. But cutting to the chase, medical staff was spot on. Kawhi did what he did that was completely for selfish reasons. Go find another Ortho team doc. Or even another Ortho surgeon. Or teammate. Or ex player. The answers will all be the same. Wish they weren't, but they are.

[YGWHI]

Looks like they cleared a player with a degenerative condition to play since playing itself wouldn't make it worse. Your observations on him this preseason only confirm he has a degenerative condition.

good job:tu

My observations on him just confirm he had an injury last seson who could receive the right treatment but the Spurs medical staff opted to play him.

Thanks for making my point. :tu

[Rip Chord]

You are gonna believe what you want. Hang on to your hero. This kind of stuff always hurts.

[K...]

When did Derrick white get tendonitis degeneration? Is that contagious or something cuz kawhi had that too....weird season

[Pavlov]

My observations on him just confirm he had an injury last seson who could receive the right treatment but the Spurs medical staff opted to play him.

Thanks for making my point. :tuNo, it does nothing of the sort.

You're arrogantly assuming you're right because of your bias.

Have you personally diagnosed Kawhi?

Yes or no.

[YGWHI]

No, it does nothing of the sort.

You're arrogantly assuming you're right because of your bias.

Have you personally diagnosed Kawhi?

Yes or no.

No. And you?

See? You're arrongantly assuming you're right because of your bias.

This works both ways.