Gov. Jerry Brown Quietly Admits Trump Was Right, Eases California Logging Rules

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https://www.dailywire.com/news/38520/gov-jerry-brown-quietly-admits-trump-was-right-emily-zanotti

[Chris]

Too late already tons of blood on his hands. Think of all the wildlife that have suffered because of this motherfucker.

[Spurtacular]

Too late already tons of blood on his hands. Think of all the wildlife that have suffered because of this motherfucker.

Doubt he's bothered, tbh.

[Winehole23]

Too late already tons of blood on his hands. Think of all the wildlife that have suffered because of this motherfucker.You blame the fires on Jerry Brown?

[Chris]

You blame the fires on Jerry Brown?

Yes he vetoed a bill that would have prevented this.

[Winehole23]

think of the wildllfe that have suffered

http://southpark.wikia.com/wiki/Woodland_Critter_Christmas

[Winehole23]

Yes he vetoed a bill that would have prevented this.It would have specifically clear cut Paradise, California?

[Chris]

Doubt he's bothered, tbh.

Well now we know Winehole doesn't give a shit.

[Winehole23]

the problem isn't the lack of federal logging permits.

it's too many people living in forests without adequate possibility of evacuation. it's a development/city planning issue.

the power company could bury its lines. that would help.

[Chris]

The problem is they are not clearing out old dead brush like they do here in Texas. Simple stuff.

[Winehole23]

Well now we know Winehole doesn't give a shit.well now we know your heart quivers with empathy for the beast of the field, you mentioned it upstream.

[Chris]

well now we know your heart quivers with empathy for the beast of the field, you mentioned it upstream.

Yes I have empathy for animals. I haven't been fully desensitized like you.

[Winehole23]

:lol

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DsUMVFtVsAEJSCl.jpg

[SnakeBoy]

The problem is they are not clearing out old dead brush like they do here in Texas. Simple stuff.

That's not true. We've got plenty of overgrowth here in the hill country. What we don't have is lot's of wind during the driest months. So every big drought summer I see small fires here and there but they move slowly so they get put out pretty quick. It would be a different story if we got steady 40-50 mph winds in August. The area around Paradise was thinned by a fire just 10 years ago. This time it burned 70,000 acres in less than a day, just not much you can do with fire moving that fast.

[ElNono]

That's not true. We've got plenty of overgrowth here in the hill country. What we don't have is lot's of wind during the driest months. So every big drought summer I see small fires here and there but they move slowly so they get put out pretty quick. It would be a different story if we got steady 40-50 mph winds in August. The area around Paradise was thinned by a fire just 10 years ago. This time it burned 70,000 acres in less than a day, just not much you can do with fire moving that fast.

MAGA faggot

[ElNono]

:lol

[SnakeBoy]

the problem isn't the lack of federal logging permits.

it's too many people living in forests without adequate possibility of evacuation. it's a development/city planning issue.

the power company could bury its lines. that would help.

They're never going to have a plan to evacuate people fast enough to avoid a fire moving 40-50 mph.

[ElNono]

I asked a pastor about it, he said they can't have nice things in California because of teh gays, tbh...

[Winehole23]

They're never going to have a plan to evacuate people fast enough to avoid a fire moving 40-50 mph.maybe not. I heard this one was going 70 mph sideways.

[boutons_deux]

People move to, eg, Paradise, to live cheaply and close to wooded nature.

Of course, your rightwing assholes want to Ferngully every damn tree and forest, as if they were Muslims or blacks or browns.

[boutons_deux]

There's nothing wrong with the forests, never has been. They don't need logging, or cleaning, or raking.

[boutons_deux]

a corrupt son of a bitch. well, he's a Repug so ...

Zinke Joins Trump On Wildfire Offensive, Blames CA Blaze On ‘Radical Environmentalists’

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[elbamba]

That's not true. We've got plenty of overgrowth here in the hill country. What we don't have is lot's of wind during the driest months. So every big drought summer I see small fires here and there but they move slowly so they get put out pretty quick. It would be a different story if we got steady 40-50 mph winds in August. The area around Paradise was thinned by a fire just 10 years ago. This time it burned 70,000 acres in less than a day, just not much you can do with fire moving that fast.

Just get rid of all the forests. Duh.

[Chucho]

There's nothing wrong with the forests, never has been. They don't need logging, or cleaning, or raking.

You're fucking retarded.


And wouldn't doubt Brown is pocketing some quick, fat cash on this deal per par with his administration. Brown never made a deal that he doesn't profit from. CA Demos are worse than their Tammany Hall counterparts.

[boutons_deux]

"overgrowth here in the hill country"

it ain't overgrowth, it's just growth.

[Ginobilly]

Just get rid of all the forests. Duh.

Maybe get rid of forrests near suburban areas and replace them with a different species of fire resistant trees? Leave the forrests alone in wild areas and manage them accordingly. I bet you very houses or none would burn down. But just like everything in califas, they make simple solutions seem impossible.

[ducks]

"overgrowth here in the hill country"

it ain't overgrowth, it's just growth.

But but climate control


Need to trim growth
Just like you trim growth on your grass on back yard

[Pavlov]

But but climate control


Need to trim growth
Just like you trim growth on your grass on back yardNeed to water forest
Just like you water your grass on back yard

[clambake]

a local news chopper covering the massacre spotted the small brush fire that is woolsey. it did not start in a forest, smh.


its called drought and spark and 50 mph winds.

[SnakeBoy]

There's nothing wrong with the forests, never has been. They don't need logging, or cleaning, or raking.

They need to burn the way nature intended.


"overgrowth here in the hill country"

it ain't overgrowth, it's just growth.

Yeah it is overgrowth or secondary growth. You clear a few Ash Junipers and you get a dozen sprouting up to take their place unless you burn afterwards. That's why TPWD encourages prescribed burns for land management.

[SnakeBoy]

Maybe get rid of forrests near suburban areas and replace them with a different species of fire resistant trees? Leave the forrests alone in wild areas and manage them accordingly. I bet you very houses or none would burn down. But just like everything in califas, they make simple solutions seem impossible.

That's not practical for such large areas and you'd still get the undergrowth. Nature already has a solution, it's called fire. They need to do prescribed burns but there's too many regulations. Took 13 years just to do one small prescribed burn in the Sierra Nevada.


https://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/12/04/will-california-ever-let-sierra-nevada-forests-burn/
It took 13 years to carry out this one 760-acre planned fire. The state’s stringent air quality rules add vast regulatory obligations to planned a managed fire but don’t apply if the same area ends up burning on its own — as would be inevitable.

[SnakeBoy]

Trump/GOP assertion that logging is the solution is also misguided. The fuel source that needs to be removed, undergrowth and dead wood, is commercially worthless.

[pgardn]

The Hill Country not have close to the amount of fuel that a forest does.
In addition to the lack of the Santa Anna winds etc...

You build your house in a forest get ready to replace it.
You build your house on a hurricane coastline get ready to replace it.
You allow houses to be built on marshlands get ready to replace them.
You build your house on active fault lines, sides of Volcanoes...

In addition The climate has changed along with humans living in dangerous areas that are susceptible to the changes.

[Chris]

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[Pavlov]

1065419282006323200When was the forest raking bill enacted?