Popovich: Kawhi Was Not a Leader

[ECOV]

Tough internet guy LMAO

He just cries and complains on the internet

[jermaine]

Fuck Kawhi... Yeah, he's great... so the fuck what
.. So is alot of muthafuckas the Spurs had to go through to get a chip... Mainly Labron!!! Fuck this bitch made ass quiter. I've thrown away all my Kawhi gear. I dont support this pussy no more than I support Trump.

[BackHome]

He just cries and complains on the internet

Let me guess this is : TheGreatShit, or maybe Daboom or Applesauce- I would probably say Daboom.

[weebo]

Fuck Kawhi... Yeah, he's great... so the fuck what
.. So is alot of muthafuckas the Spurs had to go through to get a chip... Mainly Labron!!! Fuck this bitch made ass quiter. I've thrown away all my Kawhi gear. I dont support this pussy no more than I support Trump.

You gonna be ok there, jermaine?

[TheGreatYacht]

If the 1992 system wasn't enough proof that this guy is past senility :lmao

Same old fuck that said Patty Mills is the team's 'inspiration' and 'one of the greatest teammates ever'

[RD2191]

LaMarcus and Mills leaders :lmao :lmao leading us to a 1st round exit while Kawhi is leading the Raptors to the Finals

[apalisoc_9]

Patty mills lead the raptors to the Finals?

[wingster]

Being a leader is more than playing well. How do you (general you) not get that?

[dbreiden83080]

When you have Tim Duncan on your team you don’t have to lead. He’s got that. Leonard basically had two seasons to lead in San Antonio. He decided he would rather hide from team doctors, hide from teammates, and look like a total clown.

[TheGreatYacht]

When you have Tim Duncan on your team you don’t have to lead. He’s got that. Leonard basically had two seasons to lead in San Antonio. He decided he would rather hide from team doctors, hide from teammates, and look like a total clown.
Man, you're really butthurt tonight. Starting to think you were the guy that offered Kawhi his daughter at HEB.....

He had two seasons to lead this shit team, and led them to 60+ win seasons and a WCF appearence. By himself. The roster he had here was so mediocre they shat themselves within 3 minutes after Zaza happened. He also proved he can carry any coach, even a shit one like Pop.

[TheGreatYacht]

If the faggot media wasn't so scared of this guy like they are of Trump and anyone else who treat them like shit, this would've been bigger news.

NBA finals in his first year away from Pop's plantation :lol what a shit leader

[weeks]

If the faggot media wasn't so scared of this guy like they are of Trump and anyone else who treat them like shit, this would've been bigger news.

NBA finals in his first year away from Pop's plantation :lol what a shit leader

it's the east bro

pop was kawhi's champion when every clown was calling him a system player, so obv he knew what was up

[james evans]

it's the east bro

pop was kawhi's champion when every clown was calling him a system player, so obv he knew what was up
the east were actually better than the west or at least= to them this year hahah. Sad, but shockingly true. Denver was teh #2 seed and I actually picked us to beat them and we could have in game 7. So it was no shock when Portland beat them and they aren't anything special either.

[r0drig0lac]

Man, you're really butthurt tonight. Starting to think you were the guy that offered Kawhi his daughter at HEB.....

He had two seasons to lead this shit team, and led them to 60+ win seasons and a WCF appearence. By himself. The roster he had here was so mediocre they shat themselves within 3 minutes after Zaza happened. He also proved he can carry any coach, even a shit one like Pop.

sad but true

[TDMVPDPOY]

if his not a leader, then what is lma? pop chose that pos over kawhi, and what have he done lately for the spurs? first round exit?

[dbreiden83080]

Man, you're really butthurt tonight. Starting to think you were the guy that offered Kawhi his daughter at HEB.....

He had two seasons to lead this shit team, and led them to 60+ win seasons and a WCF appearence. By himself. The roster he had here was so mediocre they shat themselves within 3 minutes after Zaza happened. He also proved he can carry any coach, even a shit one like Pop.

When Lebron leaves the Cavs they win about 4 games a season.. When Leonard left the Spurs they still almost won 50 and made the playoffs.. So our shit roster, and shit coach hung in there just fine. Raptors will end up with nothing by July. A finals appearance is nice, but the Nets had 2 in a row, and just a few years later were moving the team due to lack of interest. Raps will be back to being the number 1 ignored team in basketball soon enough..

[JeffDuncan]

... Raptors will end up with nothing by July. ...

Wrong, of course. If Leonard leaves, the Raps will gain $21.3 million to spend elsewhere. That's Leonard's player option cost under his existing contract.

Compare that to the Spurs' situation with DeRozan. His contract is for $27.3 million next season, no option.

As far as the season just concluded, the Spurs traded a $23.1 million Leonard contract for a $27.3 million DDR contract. That isn't all there was to the trade, but still. It's arguable that it was not wise to take on a greater financial obligation for a Leonard replacement than the team had been paying for Leonard, himself. If it was judged that a trade was inevitable, so be it, but there should have been a serious effort to at least look for some cost savings in the process. It's supposed to be a business, not a charity.

[spurs10]

Fuck Kawhi... Yeah, he's great... so the fuck what
.. So is alot of muthafuckas the Spurs had to go through to get a chip... Mainly Labron!!! Fuck this bitch made ass quiter. I've thrown away all my Kawhi gear. I dont support this pussy no more than I support Trump. :bobo

[pgardn]

To the original statement:

Correct. He is NOT a leader.

As a scorer he is incredible. A very good rebounder. And a good defensive player but not as good during the entirety of the game as he is must play offense on the Raptors. He was better defensively with the Spurs. Court vision, very average to poor.

Dude is super strong, but we knew that.

[TheGreatYacht]

When Lebron leaves the Cavs they win about 4 games a season.. When Leonard left the Spurs they still almost won 50 and made the playoffs.. So our shit roster, and shit coach hung in there just fine. Raptors will end up with nothing by July. A finals appearance is nice, but the Nets had 2 in a row, and just a few years later were moving the team due to lack of interest. Raps will be back to being the number 1 ignored team in basketball soon enough..
100 posts since they won the East and you haven't posted one fact all night. Just shit posts coming from your broken high cholesterol heart. As if you haven't learned your lesson from doubting Kawhi lmfao. Saying shit like he's leaving 100% and the Raps will end up with nothing in July is the best way you can cope with the fact Burford got left on the street with no clothes on and a stick up his ass. Your posts after Game 2 of the ECF were hilarious and then Kawhi took ya backdoor :lmao

[dbreiden83080]

100 posts since they won the East and you haven't posted one fact all night. Just shit posts coming from your broken high cholesterol heart. As if you haven't learned your lesson from doubting Kawhi lmfao. Saying shit like he's leaving 100% and the Raps will end up with nothing in July is the best way you can cope with the fact Burford got left on the street with no clothes on and a stick up his ass. Your posts after Game 2 of the ECF were hilarious and then Kawhi took ya backdoor :lmao

I don't even know why people like you post on this forum. You just want to take the Anti-Spurs argument/anti Spurs MGT on every topic, yet present yourself as a Spurs fan. Basically the org is at fault for him leaving, and they did NOT get enough back for him. Plus you side with this traitor after he and his uncle pulled one of the dirtiest moves anyone ever saw in the NBA. So you are a RAPTORS fan basically? And next year maybe a Clippers fan? That right? Change your fav team officially.


BTW if the Raptors get backdoor swept here in about 2 weeks, and 1 month after that Number 2 is in LA, who is going to be hailing the Raptors FO on the Number 2 trade? Just curious?

[dbreiden83080]

Wrong, of course. If Leonard leaves, the Raps will gain $21.3 million to spend elsewhere.

Spend on what? Players want nothing to do with that team, the cold weather or living in Toronto. It is the worst FA landing spot in the league.. Even if he stayed they won't attract a major FA.. They would just stand pat..

[John B]

Spend on what? Players want nothing to do with that team, the cold weather or living in Toronto. It is the worst FA landing spot in the league.. Even if he stayed they won't attract a major FA.. They would just stand pat..
Toronto >>> Cleveland tbh. Also 2way Kawhi >>> GM Lebron. Drake >>> Ice Cube. think ringchasers will join him and will cakewalk to NBA finals for the next 5 years (Zion still needs to translate to NBA).

[TheGoatishere]

Toronto >>> Cleveland tbh. Also 2way Kawhi >>> GM Lebron. Drake >>> Ice Cube. think ringchasers will join him and will cakewalk to NBA finals for the next 5 years (Zion still needs to translate to NBA).

Seriously doubt that . If the Knicks form a super team the east is theirs

[John B]

Seriously doubt that . If the Knicks form a super team the east is theirs
Seeing Kawhi handled the Greek Freak and still averaged 30 points? How old is Durant? And I remember Durant couldn’t even score until that Zaza foot. If this guy stays and committed to Toronto, FA will follow him instead of Durant

[SpursDynasty85]

sad but true

That's not true. Kawhi had a real contender here more so than any other team. I qouldve put money on our team over the Rockets, and Cavaliers the past 4 years. We shouldve won 50 games the year without him but injuries and his drama played a mess. Not signing Simmons and Dedmon over Mills and Gasol has a legitimate back story but either way Spurs are always contenders as much as that word can mean npwadays despite the Golden State train.

[TheGreatYacht]

Leadership:
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What Pop thinks leadership is:
"Oy mate, let's get this 30pt blowout over wit so we can get some mochas innit! GAME DAY BALLA GAME DAY!"

[Capt Bringdown]

It happens to everyone. Pop's time is past.
Spurs aren't doing anything until he gets over himself and retires.

[Clipper Nation]

When Lebron leaves the Cavs they win about 4 games a season.. When Leonard left the Spurs they still almost won 50 and made the playoffs..

When LeBron left the Cavs, he was replaced with nothing. When Kawhi left the Spurs, he was replaced with a known regular-season treadmill player in DeRozan. No shit, the Cavs aren't going to win as much.

[DPG21920]

When LeBron left the Cavs, he was replaced with nothing. When Kawhi left the Spurs, he was replaced with a known regular-season treadmill player in DeRozan. No shit, the Cavs aren't going to win as much.

B*tch! Without Kawhi and DeRozan SA made the playoffs. :lol

[John B]

He can put it to rest and lead this team. The whole nation of Canada is cheering for him, 16,000 more in Jurassic Park who couldn’t get in. He said he doesn’t care about being the best player, but being in the best team. If he commits to Toronto, FA will join him and could pretty much guarantee Finals appearance every year. Forget about where ball hog, aging Durant is going. I hate what Kawhi did, but dang this guy is the best player out there, and should’ve been MVP had he played enough games tbh

[DJR210]

Hopefully Kawhi gets hit by a fucking bus before the Finals

[RC_Drunkford]

Toronto >>> Cleveland tbh. Also 2way Kawhi >>> GM Lebron. Drake >>> Ice Cube. think ringchasers will join him and will cakewalk to NBA finals for the next 5 years (Zion still needs to translate to NBA).

you lost your entire reputation when you said that

[DJR210]

Hell, make it a steamroller

[DJR210]

you lost your entire reputation when you said that

:lmao Drake

[MultiTroll]

:pop: Patty Mills, leader. Kawhi Leonard, not a leader.
:lmao

Go away with your Golden State Phaggot buddies and try not to screw up the guaranteed (to any other coach) Olympic gold.

[Play Boban]

When LeBron left the Cavs, he was replaced with nothing. When Kawhi left the Spurs, he was replaced with a known regular-season treadmill player in DeRozan. No shit, the Cavs aren't going to win as much.
Regular season treadmill player actually replaced nothing for the Spurs because Kawhitter didn’t play in 2017-2018. It’s kind of interesting that the Sperms did worse this year with DeFrozen than they did with no one last year. The ultimate indictment....tbh

[TheGoatishere]

Seeing Kawhi handled the Greek Freak and still averaged 30 points? How old is Durant? And I remember Durant couldn’t even score until that Zaza foot. If this guy stays and committed to Toronto, FA will follow him instead of Durant

IF KD goes to New York kyrie most likely follows and they can be in play for Davis as well.

If that doesn’t happen i see the Sixers being the team to beat come playoff time if they keep Butler and Harris.

[jjktkk]

100 posts since they won the East and you haven't posted one fact all night. Just shit posts coming from your broken high cholesterol heart. As if you haven't learned your lesson from doubting Kawhi lmfao. Saying shit like he's leaving 100% and the Raps will end up with nothing in July is the best way you can cope with the fact Burford got left on the street with no clothes on and a stick up his ass. Your posts after Game 2 of the ECF were hilarious and then Kawhi took ya backdoor :lmao

Shut up faggott and quit pretending you watch basketball.

[UZER]

It happens to everyone. Pop's time is past.
Spurs aren't doing anything until he gets over himself and retires.

It’s really just this simple. I don’t want him in the FO either. It’s just time to move on.

And before everyone says “who you gonna get? Who you gonna get?”, Nick fucking Nurse just got to the finals with Kawhi. Pop was right for the team and time in NBA. But he’s lost the eye of the tiger and his teams play reflects that. All his shtick are just old, tired, lazy, and counter productive these days.

Just look at the last play of the Spurs season. :lol. Nobody is even paying attention to him. :lol

[spurs50_]

Everyone knows Kawhi was leading the team all the way from New York......Murray is more of a leader, he supports his team even when he isn't playing......Kawhi is a clown

[TheGreatYacht]

Shut up faggott and quit pretending you watch basketball.
I'm a top 3 poster and I'm hardly wrong when I don't troll. You otoh only post when it's a reply to me. I make you dance

[JeffDuncan]

Spend on what? Players want nothing to do with that team, the cold weather or living in Toronto. It is the worst FA landing spot in the league.. Even if he stayed they won't attract a major FA.. They would just stand pat..

You wrote that the Raptors would have nothing if Leonard left. That is factually wrong. They will have a rather sizeable amount to spend elsewhere.

There's no need to shit your pants and shriek, little girl, just because somebody points out a fact to you.

[lefty]

Kawhi shitting on the haters while legally smoking weed

[dbreiden83080]

You wrote that the Raptors would have nothing if Leonard left. That is factually wrong. They will have a rather sizeable amount to spend elsewhere.

There's no need to shit your pants and shriek, little girl, just because somebody points out a fact to you.

What I wrote is correct. They will have nothing. Do the fans of Toronto care the owner saved a bunch of money in Salary because Leonard did not sign a new deal? No huh. So will they get a big name to replace Leonard in FA? Nope.. So yep.. Nothing..

[RC_Drunkford]

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All spoken like a true Spur. That's why this is so fucked up, he's still a Spur, you can see that. Meanwhile Spurs got non-Spurs on their team :bang

[JeffDuncan]

What I wrote is correct. ...

What you wrote was ignorant, but if lying to yourself makes you feel better, go ahead.

[SpursDynasty85]

dang. SWALLOW THE COLD HARD PILL SPURS FANS. To be fair, Kawhi got a lot of hate and well I'm honestly happy for Kawhi and will quietly and halfly cheer for him until one day I completely forgive and forget. Let it ride, hope he takes that Warrior train and eats it.

[dbreiden83080]

What you wrote was ignorant, but if lying to yourself makes you feel better, go ahead.

Lets try this again..

Explain to me how saving money they can't spend improves the team? Of the major FA out there this summer

KD
Butler
Kyrie
Leonard etc..

The only one that have a shot to sign is Leonard which is standing pat. Not improving.. So if he leaves, they are left with what? Oh yeah money they won't be spending. Keep splitting hairs like a 12 year old though..

[Truth4sale$]

Not a leader? Proved Popovich wrong. Anybody can change and everybody makes mistakes. That's life.

[LkrFan]

Magic said D'Lo wasn't a leader (became an all star; led Nets to the playoffs).

Pop said Kiwi not a leader (regained his place as top 3 player in the world; led Raps to the Finals)

Pop and Magic should shut it tbh :lol

[JeffDuncan]

Lets try this again..

Explain to me how saving money they can't spend ...

If lying to yourself makes you feel better just keep doing it.

[Geo210SpursSanAnto.]

Leader or not, it still does not change the fact that #2 is still and will forever be a bitch made pussy taking orders from uncle fester....

[jjktkk]

I'm a top 3 poster and I'm hardly wrong when I don't troll. You otoh only post when it's a reply to me. I make you dance

LOL, top 3 poster? Did you conduct a poll, and who participated in your poll, your mommy and your alt. accounts? :lol

[apalisoc_9]

LOL, top 3 poster? Did you conduct a poll, and who participated in your poll, your mommy and your alt. accounts? :lol
TheGreatYacht is a spurstalk superstar.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Magic said D'Lo wasn't a leader (became an all star; led Nets to the playoffs).

Pop said Kiwi not a leader (regained his place as top 3 player in the world; led Raps to the Finals)

Pop and Magic should shut it tbh :lol


Talking down a player after he's gone just looks like a bad case of the redass. I think Magic was worse than Pop, because it was his idea to trade Russell. But it makes them both look weak, whether it was true or not.

I never thought of Kawhi as a leader when he was here. A really good player, but not a leader. But if the Raptor players think he's a leader, that's all it takes - he's a leader. And that's obviously how they're looking at him.

[Dejounte]

TheGreatYacht is a spurstalk superstar.

Yall are so fucking obvious with your alts... Sickening timvp does nothing about it.

[Ice009]

Magic said D'Lo wasn't a leader (became an all star; led Nets to the playoffs).

Pop said Kiwi not a leader (regained his place as top 3 player in the world; led Raps to the Finals)

Pop and Magic should shut it tbh :lol

So, when I was telling you clowns to trade more for him, where was all this top 3 player shit from most of the Lakers fan here. Most of you guys didn't consider him to be this good. Too bad you missed out on him because you weren't willing to give up what he was worth.

[TheGreatYacht]

TheGreatYacht is a spurstalk superstar.
Means a lot coming from one of a handful of elite posters left tbh

[apalisoc_9]

Yall are so fucking obvious with your alts... Sickening timvp does nothing about it.

I dont do alts. I created a second account a few years ago cause I couldnt remeber my password and had trouble retrieving. But thats about it.

[RC_Drunkford]

Talking down a player after he's gone just looks like a bad case of the redass. I think Magic was worse than Pop, because it was his idea to trade Russell. But it makes them both look weak, whether it was true or not.

I never thought of Kawhi as a leader when he was here. A really good player, but not a leader. But if the Raptor players think he's a leader, that's all it takes - he's a leader. And that's obviously how they're looking at him.

He's a leader to a team that has never sniffed an NBA finals. They don't have that experience and Kawhi leads by example more than by words. On the Spurs on the other hand, leading means constantly getting yelled at by Popovich and be submissive and take it, plus all the other stuff of calling plays, etc. Different ball game tbh

[LkrFan]

So, when I was telling you clowns to trade more for him, where was all this top 3 player shit from most of the Lakers fan here. Most of you guys didn't consider him to be this good. Too bad you missed out on him because you weren't willing to give up what he was worth.

Nah, like I said, most sane Laker fans recognize his standing amongst elite players in the NBA. The Lakers could have offered 21 year old Shaq and 25 year old Magic for Kiwi and Pop wouldn't do itPERIOD.

[ZeusWillJudge]

He's a leader to a team that has never sniffed an NBA finals. They don't have that experience and Kawhi leads by example more than by words. On the Spurs on the other hand, leading means constantly getting yelled at by Popovich and be submissive and take it, plus all the other stuff of calling plays, etc. Different ball game tbh


Probably some truth in that. Still, Pop taking potshots at a player after he's gone looks a lot like SJax taking shots now. It's over. Move on. If Kawhi makes any specific claims, then rebut them. But making that comment about Kawhi at that time didn't help the Spurs, or punish Kawhi.

Magic was worse - first HE gets rid of the guy, then has to follow him out the door with that comment? That's just chickenshit.

[weebo]

Kawhi wasn't a leader on the Spurs because he didn't need to be...legendary vets on the team that have done it all and seen it all...those are the guys on the team you want the rooks to model after....Kawhi was the best player at that time...sure...after TD left and Manu/Parker were on their last legs...it was his turn to take the mantle and he buckled...maybe the pressure of having to live up to TD/Manu/Tp was too much...but that's neither here nor there...Kawhi and his group wanted out and they were just looking for any excuse to bail so that kawhi could build his own legacy and uncle dennis could get paid ...and I don't buy any of this crap that someone in the organization did something or said something to annoy or offend Kawhi or his group...Im sure there's worse things that go on that we never hear about...

[jjktkk]

TheGreatYacht is a spurstalk superstar.


And I could not give 1 fuck tbh.

[Russ]

In order to be a leader, you need to be around your teammates even when you're injured.

This is not that nuanced.

[Clipper Nation]

Magic said D'Lo wasn't a leader (became an all star; led Nets to the playoffs).

Pop said Kiwi not a leader (regained his place as top 3 player in the world; led Raps to the Finals)

Pop and Magic should shut it tbh :lol

Lonzo, Kuzma and Ingram are all great leaders. :downspin:

[LkrFan]

Lonzo, Kuzma and Ingram are all great leaders. :downspin:

Agreed. See my sig. :toast

[dbreiden83080]

If lying to yourself makes you feel better just keep doing it.

Lying about what? You like the money so much hit the team up for a loan.. Sports are about what is on the field/court. They won't add anything of value if number 2 leaves.. Their former best player is in SA. And our former best player will be in LA..

[RC_Drunkford]

Lonzo, Kuzma and Ingram are all great leaders. :downspin:

you forgot to mention LeGM

[JeffDuncan]

Lying about what? ...

You've just totally lost track.

[dbreiden83080]

You've just totally lost track.

So put in on track? You add nothing..

[JeffDuncan]

So put in on track? You add nothing..

I simply told you a fact. And you went nuts.

[dbreiden83080]

I simply told you a fact. And you went nuts.

Facts without context.. I gave you plenty.. But you lack the train of thought to further a conversation..

[JeffDuncan]

Facts without context.. ...

The context was your own remarks. You've forgotten.

[SAGirl]

Magic said D'Lo wasn't a leader (became an all star; led Nets to the playoffs).

Pop said Kiwi not a leader (regained his place as top 3 player in the world; led Raps to the Finals)

Pop and Magic should shut it tbh :lol
True.

[bic50]

Leader or not, it still does not change the fact that #2 is still and will forever be a bitch made pussy taking orders from uncle fester....
Salty

[rjv]

the fact that leonard has been a leader for the raptors in these playoffs doesn't mean that pop wasn't wrong when he stated that leonard wasn't a leader for us. what kind of leader stays in new york, supposedly still rehabbing, while his team is in the playoffs? pop never said that kawhi never could be a leader. just that he hadn't really been one for the spurs.

[TheGreatYacht]

the fact that leonard has been a leader for the raptors in these playoffs doesn't mean that pop wasn't wrong when he stated that leonard wasn't a leader for us. what kind of leader stays in new york, supposedly still rehabbing, while his team is in the playoffs? pop never said that kawhi never could be a leader. just that he hadn't really been one for the spurs.
0.5/10 spin

[BSfromTX]

Dude still isn’t a leader. He says a few cliches and everyone thinks he’s some great mastermind. Dude is playing great basketball. You can say he’s leading by example, but that’s it. Raptors are simply acting like the crazy girlfriend knowing she’s about to get ditched.

All he’s doing is promoting himself. He could care less about Raptors. Not something you would find in a great leader. Is he capable? Probably, but only if it’s for who he wants to play for.

[TDomination]

Dude still isn’t a leader. He says a few cliches and everyone thinks he’s some great mastermind. Dude is playing great basketball. You can say he’s leading by example, but that’s it. Raptors are simply acting like the crazy girlfriend knowing she’s about to get ditched.

All he’s doing is promoting himself. He could care less about Raptors. Not something you would find in a great leader. Is he capable? Probably, but only if it’s for who he wants to play for.

I lost a ton of respect for Kawhi after everything that happened last year.

But if he ended up staying in Toronto. A small amount of respect would come back for him from me. It shows that he can actually care about other people outside of Uncle Dennis.

At least it would be to where he finally realized that even though he's not at "home" near L.A., he's got a good situation there team-wise and would rather keep battling with his current teammates.

Now If he rings and leaves, I'm sure Toronto will still be happy for a while. A championship is a championship no matter how you slice it. That nice feeling will last a few years.
But if they lose and he leaves, well that sucks for them. So close but still so far. And the future would definitely look bleak for Toronto.

[duncan2k5]

Kawhi wasn't a leader on the Spurs because he didn't need to be...legendary vets on the team that have done it all and seen it all...those are the guys on the team you want the rooks to model after....Kawhi was the best player at that time...sure...after TD left and Manu/Parker were on their last legs...it was his turn to take the mantle and he buckled...maybe the pressure of having to live up to TD/Manu/Tp was too much...but that's neither here nor there...Kawhi and his group wanted out and they were just looking for any excuse to bail so that kawhi could build his own legacy and uncle dennis could get paid ...and I don't buy any of this crap that someone in the organization did something or said something to annoy or offend Kawhi or his group...Im sure there's worse things that go on that we never hear about...

When did Kawhi buckle? This narrative is silly... His first full year as the man was 2017...even Kawhi-hater Skip admitted that... LMA was the man the year before... It was LMA that disappeared in the last several games of the thunder series (and pop's HORRIBLE coaching by not countering OKC dominant rebounding, and instead playing David west and Boris who were getting BODIED on the boards...) Kawhi was nowhere near being the main guy VS the clippers... He was still one of the guys... And he still had a decent series... The reason they lost was once again Pop had no clue how to defend the cp3/Blake pick and roll and had Blake looking like prime Amare... And fittingly it was cp3 who hit the shot that buried us after he was dominating Tony Parker the entire series

[duncan2k5]

Dude still isn’t a leader. He says a few cliches and everyone thinks he’s some great mastermind. Dude is playing great basketball. You can say he’s leading by example, but that’s it. Raptors are simply acting like the crazy girlfriend knowing she’s about to get ditched.

All he’s doing is promoting himself. He could care less about Raptors. Not something you would find in a great leader. Is he capable? Probably, but only if it’s for who he wants to play for.

So what exactly does he have to do in ur eyes? Because clearly u don't think leading by example is leading... Nor do u think him speaking words of encouragement is leading... Lol... The guy can't win with some of u

[BSfromTX]

So what exactly does he have to do in ur eyes? Because clearly u don't think leading by example is leading... Nor do u think him speaking words of encouragement is leading... Lol... The guy can't win with some of u

Leading by example only goes so far.
Words of encouragement are not in line with his actions during the regular season.
No, he can't win with me. He has given me plenty of reasons to believe he's not a stand up guy that has genuine intentions of being true leader for the Raptors. Any leadership he's showing now is superficial IMO.


Duncan was a good leader. Vocal, hard working, diplomatic, assertive, encouraging, honest, enduring, and unselfish. Those are qualities I see missing from Kawhi. Does he work hard? Yes, but he works hard for Kawhi. I don't think he is a bad person. I really feel like he has a lot of maturing to do as well as not allow himself to be influenced by others.

You have yet to be critical of Kawhi for anything, so I'm not really sure if it is worth explaining any of this. He simply can not do any wrong in your eyes, I guess.

[rjv]

Duncan was a good leader. Vocal, hard working, diplomatic, assertive, encouraging, honest, enduring, and unselfish. Those are qualities I see missing from Kawhi. Does he work hard? Yes, but he works hard for Kawhi. I don't think he is a bad person. I really feel like he has a lot of maturing to do as well as not allow himself to be influenced by others.

[duncan2k5]

Leading by example only goes so far.
Words of encouragement are not in line with his actions during the regular season.
No, he can't win with me. He has given me plenty of reasons to believe he's not a stand up guy that has genuine intentions of being true leader for the Raptors. Any leadership he's showing now is superficial IMO.


Duncan was a good leader. Vocal, hard working, diplomatic, assertive, encouraging, honest, enduring, and unselfish. Those are qualities I see missing from Kawhi. Does he work hard? Yes, but he works hard for Kawhi. I don't think he is a bad person. I really feel like he has a lot of maturing to do as well as not allow himself to be influenced by others.

You have yet to be critical of Kawhi for anything, so I'm not really sure if it is worth explaining any of this. He simply can not do any wrong in your eyes, I guess.

Ur wrong tho... Ur just making up negative attributes about Kawhi while dismissing the positives... It's funny how we and the national media used to say tin Duncan leads by example as his leadership style, and its different from ppl like cp3 who are more vocal... But now with Kawhi u want to pretend Timmy was considered this great vocal leader.. Simply speaking doesn't make you a vocal leader