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Nbadan
03-06-2019, 01:00 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=547&v=TfQij4aQq1k

“This is the most important video you’ll see in 2019,” says Silver. “Tribal mentality is not working and Americans are still suffering. We need to put aside our differences, stop pitting the right against the left, and put country over party to fix the system.”

Winehole23
03-06-2019, 01:07 AM
Tribal mentality is working.

Trump is admired and envied for his remorseless grifting. It's one of his main selling points, tbh.

boutons_deux
03-06-2019, 07:18 AM
90% of Repugs approve Trash

pgardn
03-06-2019, 07:48 AM
Tribal mentality is working.

Trump is admired and envied for his remorseless grifting. It's one of his main selling points, tbh.

This is something I have thought about. I don’t think a good chunk of those votes want this.
I do think there was/is pleasure in watching the blue team squirm.



I have nothing to back this up. I think your basic Trumper believes the blue team consists of vast waves of Boots/Spurshomer type mentality.

It’s possible this was their swamp.
Giving stuff away for free.
My definition of a swamp does not align with the above because they are standing in it.
Maybe there is some pride in people way outside of government using government for their own personal gain.
And we sit back chuckling that we all are being taken.

It’s very odd.

benefactor
03-06-2019, 09:37 AM
Eh, it's a pie in the sky. I feel like we are too far gone.

People don't give a shit...they enjoy being divided.

Ragin Cajun
03-06-2019, 11:44 AM
lol. The rw echo chamber has spent the better part of the last 5 decades attacking education and ramping us divide.

Nixon reached out to the fringe. Then Reagan used horrible racist dog whistles to move forward with that narrative. The the rise of the rw radio hate started to mainstream the rhetoric and opened up people to being more influenced.

the contract on America in 94 showed they made serious inroads into mainstream culture. W stealing the election 2000 was the next logical step and they got us in endless war to appeal to the patriotism of the stupids.

We elected a half black guy, and these people’s revulsion to that idea led to birtherism which fortified and organized the tea party.

When have the republicans had any sort of an idea, or philosophy in the last 5 decades? They haven’t. When you are intellectually bankrupt, your grab for power can only be achieved through emotion. Scare people, keep them frightened, and prey upon those fears. What is the enemy of the party of trump? Critical thinking based upon fact.

How many times do you have to see blatant lies forwarded from actual party leaders do you have to see, done to
scare their ignorant fuck of a following before you realize it’s about cruelty and owing libs?

its not both sides, it hasn’t been both sides for at least two decades. You all have worked to normalize this shit, and you’ve destroyed America in the process

This is the most ignorant post I've read in quite some time. I feel dumber having read it.

RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 11:46 AM
Tribal mentality is working.

Trump is admired and envied for his remorseless grifting. It's one of his main selling points, tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvCtwDAQta0

Interesting perspective, from Robert Reich.

RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 11:49 AM
Eh, it's a pie in the sky. I feel like we are too far gone.

People don't give a shit...they enjoy being divided.

Dunno. Histories of countries have lots of examples of polarized populations. It comes and it goes.

I think though, we are segregating ourselves and hunkering down, in ways that are new.

I get the sense we are on a path towards dissolution, and many conservatives and white nationalists are certainly pushing that wagon.

I wish I had more cause for optimism.

RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 11:51 AM
lol. The rw echo chamber has spent the better part of the last 5 decades attacking education and ramping us divide.

Nixon reached out to the fringe. Then Reagan used horrible racist dog whistles to move forward with that narrative. The the rise of the rw radio hate started to mainstream the rhetoric and opened up people to being more influenced.

the contract on America in 94 showed they made serious inroads into mainstream culture. W stealing the election 2000 was the next logical step and they got us in endless war to appeal to the patriotism of the stupids.

We elected a half black guy, and these people’s revulsion to that idea led to birtherism which fortified and organized the tea party.

When have the republicans had any sort of an idea, or philosophy in the last 5 decades? They haven’t. When you are intellectually bankrupt, your grab for power can only be achieved through emotion. Scare people, keep them frightened, and prey upon those fears. What is the enemy of the party of trump? Critical thinking based upon fact.

How many times do you have to see blatant lies forwarded from actual party leaders do you have to see, done to
scare their ignorant fuck of a following before you realize it’s about cruelty and owing libs?

its not both sides, it hasn’t been both sides for at least two decades. You all have worked to normalize this shit, and you’ve destroyed America in the process

I would tend to agree. What is ironic is that the market-based Obamacare was originally a Republican idea. A Democrat co-opted it, and they shit all over it in a heartbeat, simply to score cheap political points.

Further irony is that rejection of a free market solution makes single payor and other government solutions (mixes like Germany, etc) a LOT more viable.

RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 11:52 AM
This is the most ignorant post I've read in quite some time. I feel dumber having read it.

Are both sides equally bad? That is very rarely the case.

"Both sides" in the flat earth debate don't have equally valid arguments.

Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 12:16 PM
This is the most ignorant post I've read in quite some time. I feel dumber having read it.

If you cannot even point out ONE INACCURATE thing in that post -
you attack it instead.

Got it.

Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 12:17 PM
lol. The rw echo chamber has spent the better part of the last 5 decades attacking education and ramping us divide.

Nixon reached out to the fringe. Then Reagan used horrible racist dog whistles to move forward with that narrative. The the rise of the rw radio hate started to mainstream the rhetoric and opened up people to being more influenced.

the contract on America in 94 showed they made serious inroads into mainstream culture. W stealing the election 2000 was the next logical step and they got us in endless war to appeal to the patriotism of the stupids.

We elected a half black guy, and these people’s revulsion to that idea led to birtherism which fortified and organized the tea party.

When have the republicans had any sort of an idea, or philosophy in the last 5 decades? They haven’t. When you are intellectually bankrupt, your grab for power can only be achieved through emotion. Scare people, keep them frightened, and prey upon those fears. What is the enemy of the party of trump? Critical thinking based upon fact.

How many times do you have to see blatant lies forwarded from actual party leaders do you have to see, done to
scare their ignorant fuck of a following before you realize it’s about cruelty and owing libs?

its not both sides, it hasn’t been both sides for at least two decades. You all have worked to normalize this shit, and you’ve destroyed America in the process

Lotta truth bombs in here.

RandomGuy
03-06-2019, 12:35 PM
Lotta truth bombs in here.

You really want to get any Trumptard to stammering ask a simple question:

What is the Trump party, free-market solution to getting health insurance to everybody?

So much Trump party "policy" simply boils down to being a judgmental dick. The problem with simply assigning all poverty to moral faults, is that it ignores the real causes of poverty. Poverty itself. It is a self-feeding cycle. One is poor because of bad decisions, and one makes bad decisions because one is poor. Scarcity has a proven effect of reducing good long term decision making.

Poverty isn’t a lack of character. It’s a lack of cash
https://thecorrespondent.com/6777/poverty-isnt-a-lack-of-character-its-a-lack-of-cash/260541765-09059a71

SpursforSix
03-06-2019, 01:08 PM
One is poor because of bad decisions, and one makes bad decisions because one is poor. Scarcity has a proven effect of reducing good long term decision making.

Poverty isn’t a lack of character. It’s a lack of cash


Agree that poverty isn't' lack of character but you seem to say that someone who is poor is making bad decisions because they are poor.

DarrinS
03-06-2019, 02:12 PM
Are both sides equally bad? That is very rarely the case.

"Both sides" in the flat earth debate don't have equally valid arguments.

Lolz

pgardn
03-06-2019, 02:45 PM
lol.


We elected a half black guy, and these people’s revulsion to that idea led to birtherism which fortified and organized the tea party.


How many times do you have to see blatant lies forwarded from actual party leaders do you have to see, done to
scare their ignorant fuck of a following before you realize it’s about cruelty and owing libs?



Some of your wall of conservative thought is decent.

But these are funny.

You are making up your own history. First bolded.

So the red team merely wants to be cruel and see people suffer? Why....?
Now to see liberals squirm after 8 years of a black moderate, I find this legit.
But it's really all about seeing a group of people actually suffer... needs an explanation. If you said a biproduct of bad policy and scare tactics only to get elected I could take that in. But to intentionally harm as you have inferred...

Sorry if I insulted one of your alts.
You still can wish a painful death on my ass.

Spurs Homer
03-06-2019, 03:34 PM
yup

taking the money out of politics -

been saying that forever - but unfortunately -

won't ever happen

pgardn
03-06-2019, 03:58 PM
lol again. The tea party was a fringish group that lacked any sort of cohesion. They were co opted and organized by the echo chamber to become the political power they became in the Republican Party. The evangelicals threw in with them to try to repress religious freedom, preying on their overt racism, to gain a foothold in the party. Trump is the logical extension of what they have desired for decades. A dumb man with no real core, willing to say and do anything as long as he can enrich himself. He’s a perfect fool , and was a willing accomplice for Russia to begin tearing down the norms of their enemies, the democratic west.

And absolutely they embrace the cruelty. The shit, like dmc chuko, calf tats,that are so frightened and worthless in their everyday lives. They hate themselves for knowing they are fucking cowards, and hate themselves for knowing they are shit, absolutely love this guy because he is making people suffer

Nope.

They were first organized behind andidea that both parties did actually agree on. Too much govt. interference due to outside influence from lobbies, Pacs. It was indeed co-opted under the red team banner. The original individuals that drove the idea are long gone.

Your last paragraph indicates a keen sense of psychology. You know these people well.

pgardn
03-06-2019, 04:17 PM
Yep, youre one of the people that have normalized this bullshit.

Had nothing to do with lobbyists. It was a bitch about taxes and the national debt/deficit that they completely ignored until a black democrat was in office. The birther conspiracy was central, and remains strong to this day in that group.

quit making shit up

Had everything to do with getting fed up with money coming in to politics.
So yes, yes it did.

No the birther conspiracy was absolutely NOT central.


Will I be the first to die during the revolution?
Since of course I have clearly stated many times that blatant lying is just fine and all.

pgardn
03-06-2019, 04:24 PM
you are a believer. You can try to fool everyone here with your bullshit. But the manifestation of your movement is what today’s party of trump embraces.

You are proof of the rise of populism from both ends of the political spectrum with your creating devils.
Yes I am the insider you fear most here because my purpose is to fool everyone. Damn this sounds familiar from Orange types. I am the greatest of all enemies as I slink about undected by all but the most paranoid.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng-interactive/2019/mar/06/revealed-the-rise-and-rise-of-populist-rhetoric

DMC
03-06-2019, 04:39 PM
you are a believer. You can try to fool everyone here with your bullshit. But the manifestation of your movement is what today’s party of trump embraces.

I've been saying this from the start! pgardn is an undercover operative! It took beetus to create a phenomenon like condition in Boner's head to open his eyes to the fact that the universe, time itself, is a flat circle.

Chucho
03-06-2019, 04:42 PM
https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/8757402051_6e89185bb3_b.jpg

DMC
03-06-2019, 06:47 PM
Your mother giving you extra time on her acer today? You could look for a job, but why would you do that? She’s there for you to use.

You really need to brush up on your shit talking. Your attempts always seem forced and pedestrian.

pgardn
03-06-2019, 08:04 PM
No, and again, it’s completely because you sat back and let this happen within your party. You still try to minimize what one party, and one party only, is doing right now.

To sit and try to pretend you’re above it when you had a hand in it makes you the shittiest of the shitty

Above what?

This is not a game.
There were other political parties inside Germany during its Nazi turn that were also using scare tactics and looking for scapegoats.
(Since its fashionable to single out people within a country that is turning bad as THE problem.) You act like I have already picked the wrong side after a historical lookback. I let it happen... I absolutely do NOT understand the lying behavior that red team puts up with to stay loyal, to work as a team.
So the obvious solution is to play as dirty or dirtier in order to win. Im not into counter revolutions that are more vile than what they replace.
And this is selfish behavior. I like the rules around me to work and show a sense of fairness so I might thrive. I dont want to pick a side and have to prove my loyality by performing some loathsome act.

Did you read the article and do you understand the inefficiency of countering by destroying?

pgardn
03-06-2019, 08:12 PM
Dunno. Histories of countries have lots of examples of polarized populations. It comes and it goes.

I think though, we are segregating ourselves and hunkering down, in ways that are new.

I get the sense we are on a path towards dissolution, and many conservatives and white nationalists are certainly pushing that wagon.

I wish I had more cause for optimism.

This is the scariest thought.
Because the pushback can be worse, or maybe not.
We dont know. In any event, looking for common goals is a start in the correct direction.

Infrastructure perhaps.
I just dont know if any goal can be achieved if orange guy takes credit.
At this point I dont care who takes credit, I just want it to get done.
Then I want orange guy to step away in 2020. Without destructive retribution from those who feel victimized.

Nbadan
03-06-2019, 11:10 PM
Tribal mentality is working.

Trump is admired and envied for his remorseless grifting. It's one of his main selling points, tbh.

It's working for now because Republicans are winning....but that may not remain true for long....Perhaps conservatives will be more receptive to reforming government when they are the minority party in both houses and Biden is President....

boutons_deux
03-07-2019, 11:43 AM
It's working for now because Republicans are winning.......Perhaps conservatives will be more receptive to reforming government when they are the minority party in both houses and Biden is President....

absolutely not. Repugs will block, or at least gut, every single Dem initiative, unless the Dems get huge majorities of progressives, because the Pelosis, Schumers, Dem establisment are as corrupted by the oligarchy as the Repugs.

Anyway, the damage, destruction that Capitalism and oligarchy has done to America has been going on for decades, and will take decades to repair.

Irreversible, unstoppable, indiscriminate AGW is gonna fuck everybody up, no matter which party is in power.

DMC
03-07-2019, 05:13 PM
Not shit talking. You’re a fraud and a liar. Trying to impress a bunch of losers on the internet.

I don't lie about anything, including what I've said about you.

Chucho
03-07-2019, 09:02 PM
Not shit talking. You’re a fraud and a liar. Trying to impress a bunch of losers on the internet.

He never tries to impress you, dipshit.

DMC
03-07-2019, 09:26 PM
Bullshit. And at least you have the fake native sucking you off. You’re life’s complete

You better hope he's a fake Native. Else you'll be skinned like the bison you are.

Chucho
03-07-2019, 11:15 PM
Bullshit. And at least you have the fake native sucking you off. You’re life’s complete

LOL, you think reach-arounding Spurs Homer makes you superior?

You probably try and punch babies because you think they laugh at you per par with adults.

Chucho
03-07-2019, 11:17 PM
You better hope he's a fake Native. Else you'll be skinned like the bison you are.


You should know. I'm you and you're me.

Spurtacular
03-07-2019, 11:21 PM
LOL, you think reach-arounding Spurs Homer makes you superior?

You probably try and punch babies because you think they laugh at you per par with adults.

Is this funny?

Chucho
03-07-2019, 11:23 PM
Is this funny?


Funnier than 50,287,212 failed alts. Not as funny as your butchering of the language every time you learn a new word.

Spurtacular
03-07-2019, 11:24 PM
Funnier than 50,287,212 failed alts. Not as funny as your butchering of the language every time you learn a new word.

So, you thought that was funny. I can see your problem....

Chucho
03-07-2019, 11:26 PM
So, you thought that was funny. I can see your problem....


But can't see any of yours? LOL. Another box ticked on the sociopath checklist.

Spurtacular
03-07-2019, 11:29 PM
But can't see any of yours? LOL. Another box ticked on the sociopath checklist.

My problem is pretty much the same as yours at this point. :lmao

:lmao "ticked" boxes again.

Chucho
03-07-2019, 11:30 PM
My problem is pretty much the same as yours at this point. :lmao

:lmao "ticked" boxes again.


I'm not a sociopath and I use "ticked" correctly. Our problems couldn't be further apart, you sick man you.

Spurtacular
03-07-2019, 11:36 PM
I'm not a sociopath and I use "ticked" correctly.

:lol Crusty the anglophile.

Spurtacular
03-07-2019, 11:36 PM
Our problems couldn't be further apart, you sick man you.

You're essentially a higher functioning, more spastic blake.

Pavlov
03-08-2019, 03:50 AM
Derp getting dragged hard.

Quelle surprise.

RandomGuy
03-08-2019, 05:43 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=547&v=TfQij4aQq1k

“This is the most important video you’ll see in 2019,” says Silver. “Tribal mentality is not working and Americans are still suffering. We need to put aside our differences, stop pitting the right against the left, and put country over party to fix the system.”

It was a good video. Thank you.

RandomGuy
03-08-2019, 05:44 PM
Eh, it's a pie in the sky. I feel like we are too far gone.

People don't give a shit...they enjoy being divided.

Did you actually watch it?

Personally it seems worth a try, IMO.

Nbadan
03-08-2019, 11:02 PM
Did you actually watch it?

Personally it seems worth a try, IMO.

Something that we can all start at the local level........The American Anti-Corruption Act....I like the name....who likes corruption?

Nbadan
03-08-2019, 11:36 PM
Republicans Are So Corrupt That They’re Celebrating Mitch McConnell Obstructing Anti-Corruption Bill
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/08/mitch-mcconnell-corrupt-republicans.html


Democrats must stigmatize republicans as the party of corruption....because they are....repeat it over an over again the way wingnuts label popular initiatives like medicare-for-all as socialism

DMC
03-08-2019, 11:38 PM
Republicans Are So Corrupt That They’re Celebrating Mitch McConnell Obstructing Anti-Corruption Bill
https://www.politicususa.com/2019/03/08/mitch-mcconnell-corrupt-republicans.html


Democrats must stigmatize republicans as the party of corruption....because they are....repeat it over an over again the way wingnuts label popular initiatives like medicare-for-all as socialism

Then go back into your closet and auto-fellate and you'll at least have something to chew on.