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    “This is the most important video you’ll see in 2019,” says Silver. “Tribal mentality is not working and Americans are still suffering. We need to put aside our differences, stop pitting the right against the left, and put country over party to fix the system.”

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    Tribal mentality is working.

    Trump is admired and envied for his remorseless grifting. It's one of his main selling points, tbh.

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    90% of Repugs approve Trash

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    Tribal mentality is working.

    Trump is admired and envied for his remorseless grifting. It's one of his main selling points, tbh.
    This is something I have thought about. I don’t think a good chunk of those votes want this.
    I do think there was/is pleasure in watching the blue team squirm.



    I have nothing to back this up. I think your basic Trumper believes the blue team consists of vast waves of Boots/Spurshomer type mentality.

    It’s possible this was their swamp.
    Giving stuff away for free.
    My definition of a swamp does not align with the above because they are standing in it.
    Maybe there is some pride in people way outside of government using government for their own personal gain.
    And we sit back chuckling that we all are being taken.

    It’s very odd.

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    Eh, it's a pie in the sky. I feel like we are too far gone.

    People don't give a ...they enjoy being divided.

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    lol. The rw echo chamber has spent the better part of the last 5 decades attacking education and ramping us divide.

    Nixon reached out to the fringe. Then Reagan used horrible racist dog whistles to move forward with that narrative. The the rise of the rw radio hate started to mainstream the rhetoric and opened up people to being more influenced.

    the contract on America in 94 showed they made serious inroads into mainstream culture. W stealing the election 2000 was the next logical step and they got us in endless war to appeal to the patriotism of the stupids.

    We elected a half black guy, and these people’s revulsion to that idea led to birtherism which fortified and organized the tea party.

    When have the republicans had any sort of an idea, or philosophy in the last 5 decades? They haven’t. When you are intellectually bankrupt, your grab for power can only be achieved through emotion. Scare people, keep them frightened, and prey upon those fears. What is the enemy of the party of trump? Critical thinking based upon fact.

    How many times do you have to see blatant lies forwarded from actual party leaders do you have to see, done to
    scare their ignorant of a following before you realize it’s about cruelty and owing libs?

    its not both sides, it hasn’t been both sides for at least two decades. You all have worked to normalize this , and you’ve destroyed America in the process
    This is the most ignorant post I've read in quite some time. I feel dumber having read it.

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    Tribal mentality is working.

    Trump is admired and envied for his remorseless grifting. It's one of his main selling points, tbh.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvCtwDAQta0

    Interesting perspective, from Robert Reich.

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    Eh, it's a pie in the sky. I feel like we are too far gone.

    People don't give a ...they enjoy being divided.
    Dunno. Histories of countries have lots of examples of polarized populations. It comes and it goes.

    I think though, we are segregating ourselves and hunkering down, in ways that are new.

    I get the sense we are on a path towards dissolution, and many conservatives and white nationalists are certainly pushing that wagon.

    I wish I had more cause for optimism.

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    lol. The rw echo chamber has spent the better part of the last 5 decades attacking education and ramping us divide.

    Nixon reached out to the fringe. Then Reagan used horrible racist dog whistles to move forward with that narrative. The the rise of the rw radio hate started to mainstream the rhetoric and opened up people to being more influenced.

    the contract on America in 94 showed they made serious inroads into mainstream culture. W stealing the election 2000 was the next logical step and they got us in endless war to appeal to the patriotism of the stupids.

    We elected a half black guy, and these people’s revulsion to that idea led to birtherism which fortified and organized the tea party.

    When have the republicans had any sort of an idea, or philosophy in the last 5 decades? They haven’t. When you are intellectually bankrupt, your grab for power can only be achieved through emotion. Scare people, keep them frightened, and prey upon those fears. What is the enemy of the party of trump? Critical thinking based upon fact.

    How many times do you have to see blatant lies forwarded from actual party leaders do you have to see, done to
    scare their ignorant of a following before you realize it’s about cruelty and owing libs?

    its not both sides, it hasn’t been both sides for at least two decades. You all have worked to normalize this , and you’ve destroyed America in the process
    I would tend to agree. What is ironic is that the market-based Obamacare was originally a Republican idea. A Democrat co-opted it, and they all over it in a heartbeat, simply to score cheap political points.

    Further irony is that rejection of a free market solution makes single payor and other government solutions (mixes like Germany, etc) a LOT more viable.

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    This is the most ignorant post I've read in quite some time. I feel dumber having read it.
    Are both sides equally bad? That is very rarely the case.

    "Both sides" in the flat earth debate don't have equally valid arguments.

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    This is the most ignorant post I've read in quite some time. I feel dumber having read it.
    If you cannot even point out ONE INACCURATE thing in that post -
    you attack it instead.

    Got it.

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    lol. The rw echo chamber has spent the better part of the last 5 decades attacking education and ramping us divide.

    Nixon reached out to the fringe. Then Reagan used horrible racist dog whistles to move forward with that narrative. The the rise of the rw radio hate started to mainstream the rhetoric and opened up people to being more influenced.

    the contract on America in 94 showed they made serious inroads into mainstream culture. W stealing the election 2000 was the next logical step and they got us in endless war to appeal to the patriotism of the stupids.

    We elected a half black guy, and these people’s revulsion to that idea led to birtherism which fortified and organized the tea party.

    When have the republicans had any sort of an idea, or philosophy in the last 5 decades? They haven’t. When you are intellectually bankrupt, your grab for power can only be achieved through emotion. Scare people, keep them frightened, and prey upon those fears. What is the enemy of the party of trump? Critical thinking based upon fact.

    How many times do you have to see blatant lies forwarded from actual party leaders do you have to see, done to
    scare their ignorant of a following before you realize it’s about cruelty and owing libs?

    its not both sides, it hasn’t been both sides for at least two decades. You all have worked to normalize this , and you’ve destroyed America in the process
    Lotta truth bombs in here.

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    Lotta truth bombs in here.
    You really want to get any Trump to stammering ask a simple question:

    What is the Trump party, free-market solution to getting health insurance to everybody?

    So much Trump party "policy" simply boils down to being a judgmental . The problem with simply assigning all poverty to moral faults, is that it ignores the real causes of poverty. Poverty itself. It is a self-feeding cycle. One is poor because of bad decisions, and one makes bad decisions because one is poor. Scarcity has a proven effect of reducing good long term decision making.

    Poverty isn’t a lack of character. It’s a lack of cash
    https://thecorrespondent.com/6777/po...41765-09059a71

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    One is poor because of bad decisions, and one makes bad decisions because one is poor. Scarcity has a proven effect of reducing good long term decision making.

    Poverty isn’t a lack of character. It’s a lack of cash
    Agree that poverty isn't' lack of character but you seem to say that someone who is poor is making bad decisions because they are poor.

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    Are both sides equally bad? That is very rarely the case.

    "Both sides" in the flat earth debate don't have equally valid arguments.
    Lolz

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    lol.


    We elected a half black guy, and these people’s revulsion to that idea led to birtherism which fortified and organized the tea party.


    How many times do you have to see blatant lies forwarded from actual party leaders do you have to see, done to
    scare their ignorant of a following before you realize it’s about cruelty and owing libs?
    Some of your wall of conservative thought is decent.

    But these are funny.

    You are making up your own history. First bolded.

    So the red team merely wants to be cruel and see people suffer? Why....?
    Now to see liberals squirm after 8 years of a black moderate, I find this legit.
    But it's really all about seeing a group of people actually suffer... needs an explanation. If you said a biproduct of bad policy and scare tactics only to get elected I could take that in. But to intentionally harm as you have inferred...

    Sorry if I insulted one of your alts.
    You still can wish a painful death on my ass.

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    yup

    taking the money out of politics -

    been saying that forever - but unfortunately -

    won't ever happen

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    lol again. The tea party was a fringish group that lacked any sort of cohesion. They were co opted and organized by the echo chamber to become the political power they became in the Republican Party. The evangelicals threw in with them to try to repress religious freedom, preying on their overt racism, to gain a foothold in the party. Trump is the logical extension of what they have desired for decades. A dumb man with no real core, willing to say and do anything as long as he can enrich himself. He’s a perfect fool , and was a willing accomplice for Russia to begin tearing down the norms of their enemies, the democratic west.

    And absolutely they embrace the cruelty. The , like dmc chuko, calf tats,that are so frightened and worthless in their everyday lives. They hate themselves for knowing they are ing cowards, and hate themselves for knowing they are , absolutely love this guy because he is making people suffer
    Nope.

    They were first organized behind andidea that both parties did actually agree on. Too much govt. interference due to outside influence from lobbies, Pacs. It was indeed co-opted under the red team banner. The original individuals that drove the idea are long gone.

    Your last paragraph indicates a keen sense of psychology. You know these people well.

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    Yep, youre one of the people that have normalized this bull .

    Had nothing to do with lobbyists. It was a about taxes and the national debt/deficit that they completely ignored until a black democrat was in office. The birther conspiracy was central, and remains strong to this day in that group.

    quit making up
    Had everything to do with getting fed up with money coming in to politics.
    So yes, yes it did.

    No the birther conspiracy was absolutely NOT central.


    Will I be the first to die during the revolution?
    Since of course I have clearly stated many times that blatant lying is just fine and all.

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    you are a believer. You can try to fool everyone here with your bull . But the manifestation of your movement is what today’s party of trump embraces.
    You are proof of the rise of populism from both ends of the political spectrum with your creating devils.
    Yes I am the insider you fear most here because my purpose is to fool everyone. Damn this sounds familiar from Orange types. I am the greatest of all enemies as I slink about undected by all but the most paranoid.

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/ng...ulist-rhetoric

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    you are a believer. You can try to fool everyone here with your bull . But the manifestation of your movement is what today’s party of trump embraces.
    I've been saying this from the start! pgardn is an undercover operative! It took beetus to create a phenomenon like condition in Boner's head to open his eyes to the fact that the universe, time itself, is a flat circle.

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    Your mother giving you extra time on her acer today? You could look for a job, but why would you do that? She’s there for you to use.
    You really need to brush up on your talking. Your attempts always seem forced and pedestrian.

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    No, and again, it’s completely because you sat back and let this happen within your party. You still try to minimize what one party, and one party only, is doing right now.

    To sit and try to pretend you’re above it when you had a hand in it makes you the tiest of the ty
    Above what?

    This is not a game.
    There were other political parties inside Germany during its Nazi turn that were also using scare tactics and looking for scapegoats.
    (Since its fashionable to single out people within a country that is turning bad as THE problem.) You act like I have already picked the wrong side after a historical lookback. I let it happen... I absolutely do NOT understand the lying behavior that red team puts up with to stay loyal, to work as a team.
    So the obvious solution is to play as dirty or dirtier in order to win. Im not into counter revolutions that are more vile than what they replace.
    And this is selfish behavior. I like the rules around me to work and show a sense of fairness so I might thrive. I dont want to pick a side and have to prove my loyality by performing some loathsome act.

    Did you read the article and do you understand the inefficiency of countering by destroying?

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    Dunno. Histories of countries have lots of examples of polarized populations. It comes and it goes.

    I think though, we are segregating ourselves and hunkering down, in ways that are new.

    I get the sense we are on a path towards dissolution, and many conservatives and white nationalists are certainly pushing that wagon.

    I wish I had more cause for optimism.
    This is the scariest thought.
    Because the pushback can be worse, or maybe not.
    We dont know. In any event, looking for common goals is a start in the correct direction.

    Infrastructure perhaps.
    I just dont know if any goal can be achieved if orange guy takes credit.
    At this point I dont care who takes credit, I just want it to get done.
    Then I want orange guy to step away in 2020. Without destructive retribution from those who feel victimized.

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