2nd Round Matchup: Houston vs Golden State

[JohnnyMax]

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[TDfan2007]

James went forward on that last one, but Klay legit Zaza’d Harden 4 times in the first half alone. The fact that there are people here (outside you and some legit posters) deliberately ignoring it shows how far this place has fallen :lol

He definitely got hit on a couple of 3s in the first half. No argument there. But it's hard to feel bad for him when he's made a living out of embellishing/initiating contact in order to draw fouls. Maybe the refs thought he was flopping, or maybe the Rockets have run into the one team that gets a more favorable whistle than they do. Either way, I don't feel bad for them.

Sidenote: Harden pushes off on almost every step back that he takes and never gets called for it. He also grabs defenders and literally throws them aside with his off arm during drives. He needs to STFU because he definitely wouldn't want the league to put him under the microscope.

[midnightpulp]

Fattyball's viewership has the highest age average of any major american sport and that's a fact.



It's hard to "embelish" a sport where there's minimal movement and where players only cover 242 feet per game on average :lol

Sourced from Sunday Night Baseball ratings :lol. Baseball is watched locally. Here's a fact done a by a market research company and not a clickbait rag like the Washington Post:

https://www.mckinsey.com/industries/media-and-entertainment/our-insights/we-are-wrong-about-millennial-sports-fans

You'll see the MLB has more Millennial/Gen-X fans than the NBA and quite a lot more than soccer, the supposed sport of millennials (is this why the MLS and even EPL struggle to keep pace with the WNBA and bowling here? Only the Messicans and their Liga MX do decent ratings).

The MLB embarrasses the NBA locally:

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/more-sports/local-tv-ratings-mlb-vs-nba-vs-nhl/26137758/

Baseball/Softball (remember, girls don't play baseball) ranks as the highest youth sport by participation. Baseball on its own has as many participants as soccer. Soccer participation also tanks when kids are old enough to realize what a silly sport it is. It's a babysitting activity, and the only men who follow it here as they get older are of the limpwristed hipster variety who LARP as Euros. Good read. Should hit close to home: https://deadspin.com/the-new-york-times-turns-soccer-fandom-into-a-trend-1564193269

[apalisoc_9]

Its funny how Mids always ignores data from trusted sources tbh :lol

[apalisoc_9]

Gallop has consistently provided proof that baseball is a dying sport

[apalisoc_9]

https://news.gallup.com/poll/4735/sports.aspx

[apalisoc_9]

Eggball completely dominates the US market.

What is interesting is that stationryball was miles beyond in popularity than Eggball and basketball in the US and is now slightly less popular than basektball. :lol

But but its not dying :lol

[apalisoc_9]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/polling/basketball-football-baseball-soccer/2017/10/20/b6643ab4-930b-11e7-8482-8dc9a7af29f9_page.html

[midnightpulp]

https://news.gallup.com/poll/4735/sports.aspx

Are you such a brainless moron that you don't realize people can follow more than one sport? You constantly cite that poll but don't even scroll down 6 inches to see baseball fandom has actually grew since '01 (by 1 percent, from 46% to 47%), while NBA fandom has stagnated. You also don't see the inverse relationship between NFL fandom and MLB fandom. Fans who had baseball as their favorite sport basically exchanged it with football. Isn't soccer your favorite sport? Does having it as your favorite sport somehow magically keep you from following other sports?

The way you dunces present facts is mindboggingly retarded.

[Killakobe81]

He definitely got hit on a couple of 3s in the first half. No argument there. But it's hard to feel bad for him when he's made a living out of embellishing/initiating contact in order to draw fouls. Maybe the refs thought he was flopping, or maybe the Rockets have run into the one team that gets a more favorable whistle than they do. Either way, I don't feel bad for them.

Sidenote: Harden pushes off on almost every step back that he takes and never gets called for it. He also grabs defenders and literally throws them aside with his off arm during drives. He needs to STFU because he definitely wouldn't want the league to put him under the microscope.

Agree 100%
STATE got away with some fouls but it's nothing compared to what Harden gets in the regular..

He the last person allowed to ref bitch
That game was there to be won, man up and win

[AlexJones]

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Not sure what the point is here. Refs went to D'Antoni at halftime and literally admitted they missed 4 calls.

[AlexJones]

HarlemHeat37 in case you think last years series wasn't decided by calls

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[midnightpulp]

Eggball completely dominates the US market.

What is interesting is that stationryball was miles beyond in popularity than Eggball and basketball in the US and is now slightly less popular than basektball. :lol

But but its not dying :lol

Your own gallup poll says it's increased in popularity :lol. I've tried to teach you effective and intelligent trolling and debate, but your hardheaded dislike of baseball and other biases (like being a part of the Helmet Crew for far too long until you finally realized how shit Patty is) keeps you down. I think your alt is Bad Takes, under which you posted another attempted burn at baseball in a kneejerk manner, thinking a twitter journalist was an MLB player. Before trolling with an article, video, etc, read the article in full and/or see if the content you're posting actually is what you think it is. Final graph to put this shit to bed so people can back to disliking Harden's faggotry.

http://oi63.tinypic.com/24eqjbp.jpg

^TV ratings. Soccer, "the Spurt of the Yuth!" gets creamed by Sunday Night Baseball, despite being on NBC, in the 18-49 demo. "The Spurt of the Yuth" can't even beat golf in the 18-49 demo. :lol. That's with a low supply of soccer games vs. the 162 baseball games. If we compare playoff MLB games to EPL or Champions League ratings, the difference is laughable. Oh, let's see how Champions League (European Soccer's "playoffs" does):

http://oi64.tinypic.com/w70eit.jpg

Barcelona at Man United is a premiere matchup in the 3rd biggest soccer competition in the world (after Euros and World Cup), and even though on a Tuesday in the afternoon (not the best timeslot), it did a laughable 401K total. In the 18-49 demo, it nearly lost to a dog show :lol. Know what bowling did on another day? 471K :lol

"Soccer's gonna be reaaaal big soon!" Just wait."

[LkrFan]

Damn :lol

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[LkrFan]

Game 7 was in Sacto

A true Lakers fan would know this

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[LkrFan]

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:lmao

[apalisoc_9]

Your own gallup poll says it's increased in popularity :lol. I've tried to teach you effective and intelligent trolling and debate, but your hardheaded dislike of baseball and other biases (like being a part of the Helmet Crew for far too long until you finally realized how shit Patty is) keeps you down. I think your alt is Bad Takes, under which you posted another attempted burn at baseball in a kneejerk manner, thinking a twitter journalist was an MLB player. Before trolling with an article, video, etc, read the article in full and/or see if the content you're posting actually is what you think it is. Final graph to put this shit to bed so people can back to disliking Harden's faggotry.

http://oi63.tinypic.com/24eqjbp.jpg

^TV ratings. Soccer, "the Spurt of the Yuth!" gets creamed by Sunday Night Baseball, despite being on NBC, in the 18-49 demo. "The Spurt of the Yuth" can't even beat golf in the 18-49 demo. :lol. That's with a low supply of soccer games vs. the 162 baseball games. If we compare playoff MLB games to EPL or Champions League ratings, the difference is laughable. Oh, let's see how Champions League (European Soccer's "playoffs" does):

http://oi64.tinypic.com/w70eit.jpg

Barcelona at Man United is a premiere matchup in the 3rd biggest soccer competition in the world (after Euros and World Cup), and even though on a Tuesday in the afternoon (not the best timeslot), it did a laughable 401K total. In the 18-49 demo, it nearly lost to a dog show :lol. Know what bowling did on another day? 471K :lol

"Soccer's gonna be reaaaal big soon!" Just wait."

Southampton vs Newcastle at 689. The Hornets vs Pistons of the Premier league (not even an american league)

Cardinals vs mets 300

:lmao

[midnightpulp]

Southampton vs Newcastle at 689. The Hornets vs Pistons of the Premier league (not even an american league)

Cardinals vs mets 300

:lmao

No soccer game even neared a million and all lost to a dog show :lmao. NBA games have drawn as low as 300K total. Doesn't mean anything. The marquee matchups do well nationally, as do the marquee MLB matchups. Marquee soccer matchups do bowling numbers and lose to women's softball :lol

[midnightpulp]

Liverpool vs Manchester United. Lakers vs. Celtics of the EPL. Lost to bullriding by 500K :lmao

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[apalisoc_9]

Its sad how archaic Mid is with sport popularity evaluation. Still using cable :lmao

Who even uses cable now? :lmao

And Newcastle vs Southampton at 689 Cardinals vs A New york team at 300 :lmao

[apalisoc_9]

PL games beating NHL in mids "stats" but he continues to deny the rise of football. Shocking

[midnightpulp]

Its sad how archaic Mid is with sport popularity evaluation. Still using cable :lmao

Who even uses cable now? :lmao

And Newcastle vs Southampton at 689 Cardinals vs A New york team at 300 :lmao

The streaming excuse. Show me some numbers how many people stream EPL games? Fun fact, since MLB is actually a more followed league among Millennials than any soccer league in the US, it stands to reason they are also streaming there, too. MLB.com app is the most popular sports app in the US: https://www.cnet.com/news/mlb-dot-com-at-bat-app-best-sports-app-major-league-baseball-nfl-nba-nhl-hbo/


The At Bat app has been the number one sports league app for iOS and Android for four years, App Annie said. The subscription-based baseball app currently has about 12.7 million downloads and is on pace to surpass the single-season record of 13.1 million downloads set last year, according to the MLB. About 8.5 million people use the At Bat app daily.

Given these numbers, it would reason that more people are actually streaming MLB content than soccer content.

The New York Mets are the Clippers of NY. And like I said, majority of people watch their teams on the home network, not ESPN, FS1. EPL games are national "events" and are bowling level in the ratings.

[midnightpulp]

PL games beating NHL in mids "stats" but he continues to deny the rise of football. Shocking

Do you understand the PL is 40 games long and is broadcasted on NBC a lot? That the NHL has a larger supply of games and is also more a regional sport. Not all games are going to draw huge nationally. But a marquee regular season NHL matchup will pull a million to two million. The highest rated EPL game ever was 1.72 million, simulcast on Telemundo. I've always admitted the Messicans are the ones who drive ratings. But no, soccer isn't "rising" otherwise. Know what the first MLS Cup did back in 1996? 3.7 million. Did 3.0 million the next year. If this forum existed, you'd be saying, "In 20 years, the MLS is going be a top 3 league in the US!" Lol. MLS Cup ratings struggle to break 2.0 million, and that's with a UniMas simulcast.

Why do you ignore the "non-rise" of soccer? It's always been around the 6th/7th most popular sport here (Football, Baseball, Basketball, Hockey, Golf, Auto-racing, Tennis), a fact that remains to this day. Nothing has really changed.

[midnightpulp]

Top sports apps in the US on Android (sort by store rank. Usage rank numbers can be inflated by the app being open in the background. There's no way cricket is a top 5 followed sport here. Either Indians on proxies or they're weighting the usage. Yes they are. It measures current installs to usage, so if the 10 cricket fans in the US are all using their app, 100 percent usage, which would place it high). MLB Ballpark at 3rd, At bat at number 7, Baseball scorekeeping app at 11. No actual soccer app that is connected to a league until 33. Oh, what's that at 35? Baseball streaming app :lol

If we want to sort by usage, MLB At Bat at 4, higher than any soccer app and the NBA app.

https://www.similarweb.com/apps/top/google/app-index/us/sports/top-free

MLB ballpark number 1 on iPhone, and At bat at number 6. No soccer app in sight.

https://www.similarweb.com/apps/top/apple/store-rank/us/sports/top-free/iphone

The phone defines modern life/modern entertainment consumption, and baseball is the most consumed on the medium. No better "sport popularity evaluation" than that. Wonder how old apalisoc_9 gonna spin this one.

[FrostKing]

Watching the late night replay now

Yah both these teams would get smoked by the top squads just a decade ago. Lazy low imagination 3 point chucking. Surprise both are doing so much complaining about refs? Desperation after getting fat off free throws and open outside shots.

Overall I don't see any GOAT status players on the court. At least not yet maybe they will develop

[LkrFan]

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Dirtiest lil bastard I've ever seen. SMH

[LkrFan]

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SA MH

[TDMVPDPOY]

complaining about calls, lol...

[LkrFan]

These MFers surely likes to cry like beotches:

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:lol

[Kurgan]

Is there a way for both teams to lose? I hate to say it but I'd rather GS win the series if only because I feel they have a better shot at beating Toronto in the Finals. Kawhi has made Harden his bitch before but KD tends to own him.

[AlexJones]

L2M report: Warriors got away with Curry fouling out twice
The Officials: We missed 4 calls on the Warriors closing out on Harden 3PTs
Steve Fucking Javie: These were all fouls, and they should be called

[LkrFan]

Is there a way for both teams to lose? I hate to say it but I'd rather GS win the series if only because I feel they have a better shot at beating Toronto in the Finals. Kawhi has made Harden his bitch before but KD tends to own him.

:lmao

[benefactor]

Harden has led the league in FT attempts for five straight seasons:lol

This could backfire badly. We all know that Harden gets less of those calls in the post season and the refs could swallow the whistle even more. They were better off just letting it go.

[apalisoc_9]

:lmao

You buying kawhi shirt in the finals, roberto?

[LkrFan]

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Today's small market teams :lol

[LkrFan]

You buying kawhi shirt in the finals, roberto ?

:lol

If they make the Finals, hell yeah! :tu

[LkrFan]

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Translation: Darryl Morey is PATHETIC! :lmao

[LkrFan]

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:corn:

[LkrFan]

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:corn:

[Clipper Nation]

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:corn:

Steph calling out Draymond :wow

[LkrFan]

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:lol

[LkrFan]

Steph calling out Draymond :wow

:downspin: that shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit! :lmao

[Clipper Nation]

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Frauden just wants a fair chance, though. :rolleyes

[LkrFan]

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:lol

[LkrFan]

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Frauden just wants a fair chance, though. :rolleyes

Hey djohn2oo8 take yo horse to the old town road and :downspin: this shiiiiiiiiiiiiit 'til you can't no mo! :lol

[Play Boban]

I feel bad for Harden. Gets hacked constantly but never gets a foul call...... :cry

[Clipper Nation]

Hey djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870) take yo horse to the old town road and :downspin: this shiiiiiiiiiiiiit 'til you can't no mo! :lol

:lol I wonder if Morey's report talks about the blatant lane violations that Harden committed on all 4,127 of those free throws? Or the flops that enabled him to shoot all those FTs in the first place?

[LkrFan]

:lol I wonder if Morey's report talks about the blatant lane violations that Harden committed on all 4,127 of those free throws? Or the flops that enabled him to shoot all those FTs in the first place?

Sheeeeiit - of course not. :lol

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[LkrFan]

John Clawd Van Damn:
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This some embarrassing shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit!! djohn2oo8 :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

The Spurfans complaining about Harden, were the same ones complaining about Zaza Pachulia sticking his foot under Kawhi. Lotta hypocrisy going on in here.

[djohn2oo8]

Clipper Nation cried pretty hard about that too

[djohn2oo8]

:lol I wonder if Morey's report talks about the blatant lane violations that Harden committed on all 4,127 of those free throws? Or the flops that enabled him to shoot all those FTs in the first place?
Those the same as intentionally trying to injure somebody? Or did you just cry like a bitch when Zaza injured Kawhi?

[dbestpro]

Live by the ref, die by the ref. Harden needs to change his game if he truly ever wants to ring. The more he complains the less likely he will get his calls.

[djohn2oo8]

Live by the ref, die by the ref. Harden needs to change his game if he truly ever wants to ring. The more he complains the less likely he will get his calls.
You have to give the shooter room to land. That’s not debatable. Or you end up injured like Kawhi.

[AlexJones]

Live by the ref, die by the ref. Harden needs to change his game if he truly ever wants to ring. The more he complains the less likely he will get his calls.

Lots of low basketball IQ takes today. This isn't Harden not getting calls on his rip through, arm grabbing moves. This was the refs ADMITTING TO D'ANTONI that they blew 4 calls on closeout 3PT fouls that could be deemed flagrants.

[djohn2oo8]

Lots of low basketball IQ takes today. This isn't Harden not getting calls on his rip through, arm grabbing moves. This was the refs ADMITTING TO D'ANTONI that they blew 4 calls on closeout 3PT fouls that could be deemed flagrants.
Exactly.

[TDfan2007]

Lots of low basketball IQ takes today. This isn't Harden not getting calls on his rip through, arm grabbing moves. This was the refs ADMITTING TO D'ANTONI that they blew 4 calls on closeout 3PT fouls that could be deemed flagrants.


Exactly.

The point a lot of posters are making here is that he deserves it, and nobody feels bad for him or the Rockets. Some of those closeouts, especially in the first half, were clearly fouls. However, some were obvious ref baiting. The problem with Harden is that you almost never know when a foul is real or manufactured (ex that last 3 he took). He had a reputation now, as does Chris Paul.

Again, if he wants the game called "the way it's supposed to be called," then the Rockets would be swept and he'd be even further exposed. He pushes off on almost every damn step back, throws defenders away from him on drives with his off arm, and is allowed to be VERY physical on defense. Nobody other than maybe Draymond gets Harden's benefit of the doubt on D.

[Clipper Nation]

The Spurfans complaining about Harden, were the same ones complaining about Zaza Pachulia sticking his foot under Kawhi. Lotta hypocrisy going on in here.
Zaza made an intentionally dirty play. Frauden kicks his legs out on every shot so he can get more bullshit flop calls.

[LkrFan]

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PATHETIC :lol

[Clipper Nation]

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[djohn2oo8]

The point a lot of posters are making here is that he deserves it, and nobody feels bad for him or the Rockets. Some of those closeouts, especially in the first half, were clearly fouls. However, some were obvious ref baiting. The problem with Harden is that you almost never know when a foul is real or manufactured (ex that last 3 he took). He had a reputation now, as does Chris Paul.

Again, if he wants the game called "the way it's supposed to be called," then the Rockets would be swept and he'd be even further exposed. He pushes off on almost every damn step back, throws defenders away from him on drives with his off arm, and is allowed to be VERY physical on defense. Nobody other than maybe Draymond gets Harden's benefit of the doubt on D.
Nobody deserves to be put in a position where landing on someone’s foot can end their career. If that’s the case none of you should have been upset when Zaza did Kawhi in.

[djohn2oo8]

Zaza made an intentionally dirty play. Frauden kicks his legs out on every shot so he can get more bullshit flop calls.
Low IQ at it again. This play happened multiple times in a game. It’s a dirty play. You give the shooter space to land

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[djohn2oo8]

Putting your foot underneath a shooter is intentionally dirty

[djohn2oo8]

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Happening twice or more times is quite intentional

[djohn2oo8]

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Once again. Jumping into a player’s landing space to potentially cause injury. Multiple times.

[Mark Celibate]

Low IQ at it again. This play happened multiple times in a game. It’s a dirty play. You give the shooter space to land

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yeah that's definitely a foul on replay. As another poster mentioned though, Harden has done so much flopping and leg kicking (ala the last shot against Green) that in live action it's hard to tell what really is or isn't a foul

[Clipper Nation]

Low IQ at it again. This play happened multiple times in a game. It’s a dirty play. You give the shooter space to land

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Maybe if Frauden didn't kick his legs out and flop on every shot, he'd get calls like that. He also has no room to complain when he did the same shit to Curry.

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[Clipper Nation]

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Frauden is such a joke.

[djohn2oo8]

Maybe if Frauden didn't kick his legs out and flop on every shot, he'd get calls like that. He also has no room to complain when he did the same shit to Curry.

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A jump shooter is allowed to jump forward. He still must be allowed a landing spot. You aren’t making sense and it’s embarrassing for you.

[djohn2oo8]

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Frauden is such a joke.
You know the rules. A jump shooter must be allowed to land.

[djohn2oo8]

In which btw, could be considered a flagrant. But you are deflecting because you won’t address the game 1 and the missed calls which the refs admitted should have been called.

[djohn2oo8]

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in which, multiple times running into the lower body of a jump shooter seems obvious

[Clipper Nation]

A jump shooter is allowed to jump forward. He still must be allowed a landing spot. You aren’t making sense and it’s embarrassing for you.

Now tell that to Frauden, because he didn't seem to get the memo that he has to allow Curry a landing spot.

[LkrFan]

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:lol

[Mark Celibate]

After watching some of the replay, it's hard to even feel bad for those missed calls on Harden. I saw him get foul calls on plays where he was grabbing Looney's arm, another on a perfectly clean block where he threw himself into Iguodala, a missed offensive foul call where he blatantly shoves Looney out of the way, and the And-1 at the end against Thompson where he clears him out with his off arm.

The missed "landing spot" calls even out due to his usual BS tactics

[TDfan2007]

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Once again. Jumping into a player’s landing space to potentially cause injury. Multiple times.


yeah that's definitely a foul on replay. As another poster mentioned though, Harden has done so much flopping and leg kicking (ala the last shot against Green) that in live action it's hard to tell what really is or isn't a foul


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PATHETIC :lol


In which btw, could be considered a flagrant. But you are deflecting because you won’t address the game 1 and the missed calls which the refs admitted should have been called.


After watching some of the replay, it's hard to even feel bad for those missed calls on Harden. I saw him get foul calls on plays where he was grabbing Looney's arm, another on a perfectly clean block where he threw himself into Iguodala, a missed offensive foul call where he blatantly shoves Looney out of the way, and the And-1 at the end against Thompson where he clears him out with his off arm.

The missed "landing spot" calls even out due to his usual BS tactics

Dude, djohn, how are you not getting this? Nobody is arguing that those weren't fouls (they didn't look intentional though). We're just saying that he's a flopping Prima Dona whose antics have made him very difficult to officiate, sometimes to his own detriment when refs may question in real time if he's flopping.

No, he doesn't deserve to get injured, but he does deserve to have a few calls go against him. He's a superstar who has turned into a potential all-timer (at least in the regular season) because of his foul-baiting ways, and he's been exposed time and time again in the playoffs when he doesn't get those regular season calls.

[Kurgan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h68lIm3LcaM&feature=youtu.be

[ambchang]

The referees are the most interesting aspect of :lol today’s nba.

[UZER]

The referees are the most interesting aspect of :lol today’s nba.

I saw Danny Green get a tech for something so minor compared to what Draymond Green does every single game. It’s just laughable.

Yes, I agree, the refs have an extremely difficult job, especially with how fast the game moves. But if they just called it consistently every game, players would adjust. Instead, they’re too busy worrying about when to bend the rules for certain players and teams. I mean they call one thing down the court, and the very next play on the other end they let it go. Their constant inconsistencies starts raising eyebrows when it starts changing the outcome of games.

Harden has made his own bed so he has to deal with his own shit sandwich, but let’s not act like the refs do not have a completely different set of rules for the Warriors too, especially in the playoffs. We see it every year. So now it’s just a big cluster because the refs have created this mess by the way they call Harden vs the way they call the Warriors. When these two teams play, it’s hilarious watching the refs flip and flop from call to call. :lol

[benefactor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h68lIm3LcaM&feature=youtu.be
:lol.../thread

[Killakobe81]

After watching some of the replay, it's hard to even feel bad for those missed calls on Harden. I saw him get foul calls on plays where he was grabbing Looney's arm, another on a perfectly clean block where he threw himself into Iguodala, a missed offensive foul call where he blatantly shoves Looney out of the way, and the And-1 at the end against Thompson where he clears him out with his off arm.

The missed "landing spot" calls even out due to his usual BS tactics

This.
He gets calls missed on him sure, but if he played the game straight-up then I wouldnt have an issue and would call out state for their dirty play.
IF djohn/Rox wants HArden to get those calls so as HArden can "get his fair chance" then stop giving Harden all those off hand pushes, arm bars and hooks and calling the defender for the foul ...

where is the Rox memo on all the phantom foul calls on HArden defenders?!

Im all for better reffing for BOTH teams.

Call all the offensive fouls on Harden
the techs for Paul and draymond .
Call the landing spot fouls on BOTH teams

And maybe we can get a series without all the bitching and complaining

[Killakobe81]

BTW I aprreciate harden and Dubs greatness

but both teams are becoming unlikeable tbh

I almost wanna root for Blazers/Raptors or Blazers/bucks but doubt it happens

[LkrFan]

Looks like the Rockets done pissed off Silver:
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Any thoughts on this development djohn2oo8?

:lol

[lefty]

:lol rest of the league

[ambchang]

Warriors complaining about a ref - ref barred from playoffs
Houston complaining about a ref - assigned in a must win in the playoffs.

I guess the league made it clear who’s side they are on.

[daslicer]

Looks like the Rockets done pissed off Silver:
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Any thoughts on this development djohn2oo8?

:lol
:lol Wow reminds me of when the NBA would assign Joey Crawford to ref must win playoff games for the Spurs.

[Killakobe81]

it could work out in rox favor ...maybe foster proves he can do a Rox game by giving HArden 15 Ft's

I really wish semis were
Blazers vs state
Nuggs vs Rox

Celts vs sixers
Raptors vs. bucks

Celts sixers for old time's sake and
Blazers state to see Dame drop 50 at Oracle they probably lose in 5 but i think they steal one at Oracle

Rox vs dubs is a round to early ...

this reminds me of old Lakers vs sacto Spurs vs suns and Lakers vs spurs with all the coaches doing pressors on refs ...

[benefactor]

Damn Silver long dicking the Rockets:lol

Told you they should have let it go

[spurraider21]

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in which, multiple times running into the lower body of a jump shooter seems obvious
2nd one there and last one were clean. look at where harden leaves the floor. the defenders didnt get under that area.

[MultiTroll]

That's approaching some Zaza shit on a couple of those by Michelle Thompsan.
Bitch needs to be put on the floor -hard.
But we know of course todays pussy NBA and Rockets won't do anything about it.

[lefty]

this could turn ugly

Rockets should be frustrated to the point they will injure a Warrior


Naaah who am I kidding the Rox won’t do anything

[140]

Inb4 chokep3 pulls a hammy trying to zaza Steph

[LkrFan]

Damn Silver long dicking the Rockets:lol

Told you they should have let it go

:lol

[LkrFan]

Brian Windbag is not a Beard fan:
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:lol

[Clipper Nation]

Undeniable proof that Frauden is flopping on every three that's even slightly contested:

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Refs need to keep swallowing their whistle every time he tries to bait these cheap calls, just like they did in Game 1. He is truly shameless.

[Keepin' it real]

Fat tub of goo.

[Clipper Nation]

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So wait - what's the issue again with Foster reffing this game? Is he the reason why Houston kept choking and bricking threes?

[D-Wade]

Damn this might really backfire for Haren and co. :lmao:lmao:lmao

[LkrFan]

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[LkrFan]

Undeniable proof that Frauden is flopping on every three that's even slightly contested:

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Refs need to keep swallowing their whistle every time he tries to bait these cheap calls, just like they did in Game 1. He is truly shameless.

:lmao at djohn2oo8

[Clipper Nation]

Regular Season Frauden:

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Playoff Frauden:

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[UZER]

Undeniable proof that Frauden is flopping on every three that's even slightly contested:

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Refs need to keep swallowing their whistle every time he tries to bait these cheap calls, just like they did in Game 1. He is truly shameless.

Harden has taking this stuff to a ridiculous level where he is creating deception every single time he has the ball. I can’t stand watching him play.

With that said, the Warriors are the most ref babied team of all time. And that’s odd considering they treat the officials like shit every single game. :lol

[lefty]

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[LkrFan]

Regular Season Frauden:

1081091758694363136
Playoff Frauden:

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:lmao at .Michael Jordan

[LkrFan]

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:lol

[Beartrucci]

NBA trolling Rockets with Foster officiating tonight :lol

[MultiTroll]

Game 2 last year:
Rockets 127
Warriors 105

Just can't see that much scoring going on this game 2.
You?

[LkrFan]

1123378566425653248

:lol

[Clipper Nation]

:lol The ClutchFans meltdown has reached the point where fans are now begging Tillman to sue the NBA:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/suing-the-nba.298253/

You can't make this shit up.

[LkrFan]

:lol The ClutchFans meltdown has reached the point where fans are now begging Tillman to sue the NBA:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/suing-the-nba.298253/

You can't make this shit up.

BAAAAAAHHHAAHAHA! :lmao

[140]

:lol The ClutchFans meltdown has reached the point where fans are now begging Tillman to sue the NBA:

http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/suing-the-nba.298253/

You can't make this shit up.



honestly think we could all chip in and find representation. File the suit under 'clutchfans on behalf of the Integrity of the NBA......I'm willing to pitch in a $100 or 2 if this is serious and other member are committed and a pot is set up. Silver looks evil, I bet he's a real foul person behind closed doors.

:lmao

[TDfan2007]

Undeniable proof that Frauden is flopping on every three that's even slightly contested:

1123273091419922432
Refs need to keep swallowing their whistle every time he tries to bait these cheap calls, just like they did in Game 1. He is truly shameless.

Case fucking closed

[Joseph Kony]

Harden whining about the refs is fucking laughably hypocritical... :lmao i seriously dont even care if the games are fixed in GSWs favor against this ref baiting ######. dudes entire game is predicated on deception and flopping. and every year the refs quit calling his BS constantly in the playoffs and his team predictably loses. fucking clown :lol

[Joseph Kony]

Harden whining about the refs is fucking laughably hypocritical... :lmao i seriously dont even care if the games are fixed in GSWs favor against this ref baiting ######. dudes entire game is predicated on deception and flopping. and every year the refs quit calling his BS constantly in the playoffs and his team predictably loses. fucking clown :lol

oh wow, ST actually censored f@ggot :depressed

[Clipper Nation]

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[gambit1990]

go rockets. fuck the warriors.

[140]

oh wow, ST actually censored f@ggot :depressed
RIP in peace spurstalk imho tbh

[Clipper Nation]

CP0 flopping like a bitch already, I see. And I'm guessing it's the refs' fault that they keep turning it over?

[Capt Bringdown]

Looks like a very hyperextended or maybe even broken finger for curry

[gambit1990]

broken finger came to my mind as well...

[Clipper Nation]

I'm pretty sure it's just dislocated, so Curry won't miss any serious time.

[D-Wade]

Haren down too but for a different reason.

[resistanze]

Scam Artist.

[Capt Bringdown]

GS just getting away with fouling the fuck out of Houston

[Clipper Nation]

Frauden with another Oscar-worthy flop, which pretty much gifts three more points to the Warriors. When will he ever learn to play the right way?

[140]

Frauden :lol

[LkrFan]

Haren is pathetic. Where's Artest when you need him? :lol

[gambit1990]

"curry might miss a few minutes so let's make sure harden never sees with two eyes again."

[resistanze]

:lmao

[gambit1990]

is the series over now? waiting for a harden update.

[resistanze]

We can see why they went 0 for 27 in game 7. Gimmick team gonna gimmick.

[Clipper Nation]

I had Warriors in 6, but I'm starting to doubt that Houston even gets one win anymore. Pretty embarrassing that Houston's "superstars" can't do better than a team that doesn't even have any all-stars.

[LkrFan]

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:wow

[LkrFan]

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:lmao

[Clipper Nation]

How is Frauden not back yet? He's really milking this shit for all it's worth. LeBron got poked in the eye by Draymond the same way last year and kept playing.

[Capt Bringdown]

Funny how GS keeps injuring their opponents. Must be a coincidence, huh?

[gambit1990]

harden bleeding from his eye... torn eyelid seems like best case scenario...

[gambit1990]

harden back :tu

[gambit1990]

always been a austin rivers hater but glad the rockets have him back this game.

[Clipper Nation]

harden bleeding from his eye... torn eyelid seems like best case scenario...

LeBron was bleeding from his eye last year when Draymond did the same thing to him and he still dropped 51 on them.

[Play Boban]

:cry Warrior :cry

[Beartrucci]

That was some of control bs by Durant

[D-Wade]

"In a blink of an eye, no pun intended." -Harlan

[gambit1990]

LeBron was bleeding from his eye last year when Draymond did the same thing to him and he still dropped 51 on them.
best player in history doing best player in history things tbh.

[DPG21920]

GS doing that thing where they are playing with their food since Harden went out. They just can’t help themselves mentally when it comes to playing down to their competition

[KimmyGib]

Most players can't even breathe on Harden without giving up a foul. Yet somehow Draymond can gouge him in the eye and blind him without a whistle. This series, man. NBA's most coddled player against NBA's most coddled team. I expected it to be a bit like the unmovable object vs. the unstoppable force. Hoping they would just collide and obliterate each other. Nope. Warriorrefs prevail.

[gambit1990]

houston's rebounding :lol

[Clipper Nation]

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Thank God he's not on the Clippers anymore.

[gambit1990]

GS should be up a lot more.

[Clipper Nation]

Amazing how much worse the Rockets start looking as soon as Playoff Frauden comes back. This y'all MVP?

[Clipper Nation]

Hey Morey, make sure you include this shit in your audit report:

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[ducks]

https://m.chron.com/sports/rockets/article/Rockets-James-Harden-shaken-up-early-with-eye-13809073.php

[daslicer]

Harden can see fine. It was clear to me when he hit his freethrows and that 3 point shot. If the Rox lose he can't use his eye injury as an excuse.

[KimmyGib]

14 offensive rebounds in the first half for GS :wow

[Clipper Nation]

Harden can see fine. It was clear to me when he hit his freethrows and that 3 point shot. If the Rox lose he can't use his eye injury as an excuse.

We all know it's going to be three days of "boo hoo, he had a boo-boo in his eye" though.

[KimmyGib]

Cousins injury was a godsend for GS. Imagine if he was taking Iguodala minutes.

[TDfan2007]

This should be a blowout, but the Rockets role players have stepped up. KD is having one of those regression to the mean games

[JohnnyMax]

Harden coming out for the second half:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/9bb2c531875b6e0bf29b0af037899042/tenor.gif

[Capt Bringdown]

Houston can't get stops, GS by 15 - 20 pts

[TDfan2007]

Houston is shooting the lights out and is still down double digits

[TimDunkem]

This is a snoozefest, tbh. Everything I expected is happening.

[Capt Bringdown]

This is a snoozefest, tbh. Everything I expected is happening.

GS isn't losing to Houston. Or anyone else.

[Beartrucci]

This is really just a glorified 3 point shooting contest :lol

[RGMCSE]

What type of boring ass shit is this? Lol taking turns shooting from mid court.

[lefty]

This is really just a glorified 3 point shooting contest :lol


What type of boring ass shit is this? Lol taking turns shooting from mid court.

:lol today’s NBA

Thank God for Youtube

[AlexJones]

Rockets just don't have anything from the bench outside of Rivers. Just sucks because they unironically win game 1 if he had played.

[AlexJones]

CP3 is done. Can't get any separation no more

[Clipper Nation]

Rockets just don't have anything from the bench outside of Rivers. Just sucks because they unironically win game 1 if he had played.

Not necessarily, considering how he cancels out his own chucking with his usual atrocious defense.

[AlexJones]

Not necessarily, considering how he cancels out his own chucking with his usual atrocious defense.

CP3 is playing worse defense in this series

[Clipper Nation]

Frauden with another shameless flop. Rocketrefs doing everything they can to get the league's darlings back into the game.

[TDfan2007]

Okay, now that one was a foul

[RGMCSE]

:lol today’s NBA

Thank God for Youtube

Im honestly trying to watch as an nba fan and trying to enjoy a game. But damn this shit is not for me man. No body breaks down the defense with penetration anymore. It’s all frenetic pace to get to the three point line.

[Capt Bringdown]

This is really just a glorified 3 point shooting contest :lol

My thoughts exactly watching this game, and the earlier Bucks/Celtics game. We're just supposed to sit around waiting for a team to go on a 3-pt shooting run.
Today's NBA.

[Beartrucci]

Ah a good ol Dray moving screen into a Curry dagger. How nostalgic

[TDfan2007]

Warriors defense on harden since the second quarter has been awful

[Clipper Nation]

Morey must be kicking himself for giving Harrell away (and for Dumbtoni never giving him playing time when he was there) every time he watches Capela choke in the playoffs.

[D-Wade]

Doesn't help that Capela gets the ball on the bounce at his knees or lower half the time. CP3's penetration lob game is not even part of his game these days and Harden is content to roll the dice (or himself) on the perimeter.

[Capt Bringdown]

Maybe Pop should ask Steve Kerr about how to play your starters in the playoffs...

[Capt Bringdown]

LOL Chris Paul

[Clipper Nation]

Another playoff chokejob by CP0, per par.

[UZER]

You just can’t beat the Warriors. When Durant is struggling, Curry is going off, when Durant and Curry are struggling, Klay carries the load for a quarter. All the while you have Draymond going Baraka with his knife hands taking out players eyes. You just can’t beat them 4 times.

Durant (top 2 player in the game) really fucked up the NBA going to that team. they have forced other teams to just chuck 3s over and over just to try to keep up. It’s taken 3 years, but you can see how it become a 3 point launching league.

[Clipper Nation]

Game 1 vs. Warriors
Lou, Trez and Pat: L
CP0: L

Game 2 vs. Warriors
Lou, Trez and Pat: W
CP0: L

:downspin:

[gambit1990]

still got houston winning this.

[daslicer]

You just can’t beat the Warriors. When Durant is struggling, Curry is going off, when Durant and Curry are struggling, Klay carries the load for a quarter. All the while you have Draymond going Baraka with his knife hands taking out players eyes. You just can’t beat them 4 times.

Durant (top 2 player in the game) really fucked up the NBA going to that team. they have forced other teams to just chuck 3s over and over just to try to keep up. It’s taken 3 years, but you can see how it become a 3 point launching league.

Pretty much that's how I felt. Draymond is very valuable considering the refs allow him to get away with dirty plays, hacking, grabbing. No team but the Warriors have that luxury on the defensive end.

[gambit1990]

but man, was a big capela fan...

was on the verge of saying montrezl is better after the last series... i can now say... montrezl is better.

i wanted the spurs to draft him though so i'm not bandwagoning at all.

[gambit1990]

i just gotta think capela's nerves are getting the best of him. i do think he'll be much better in houston and going forward.

[gambit1990]

i think d'antoni isn't using capela right... and then when he finally gets the ball... he's thinking ahead of himself.

[gambit1990]

stop giving the ball to capela in the post... PnR d'antoni... pretend like he's amare... it's really not complicated at all.

[RD2191]

This series is over. Roxs might win 1 game tbh.

[gambit1990]

rockets winning this... they've played BAD and have lost winnable games.

[Capt Bringdown]

Pretty much that's how I felt. Draymond is very valuable considering the refs allow him to get away with dirty plays, hacking, grabbing. No team but the Warriors have that luxury on the defensive end.

Not to mention the moving screens on the offensive end. A 90's era big-man (Shaq, Ewing, Olujawon, Robinson, etc) would dominate him in the post, get him into foul trouble and then it would be all over.

Of course there are no such big men in the today's NBA.

[Capt Bringdown]

rockets winning this... they've played BAD and have lost winnable games.

Rockets "strategy" is to out gun GSW? I just don't see that happening.

[Arcadian]

Poor Pringles...cockblocked by the Spurs when he had the Nash/Amare/Marion Suns, and cockblocked by the Warriors when he has the Harden Rockets.

[gambit1990]

kenny said just what i did. they have to use the roll.

[gambit1990]

Rockets "strategy" is to out gun GSW? I just don't see that happening.
they will have a different energy in houston and carry it forward. they have lost both games by an average of 5 points.

[gambit1990]

it's incredible to me how d'antoni abandoned the PnR... nash and amare... cp3/harden + capela can't do that ??? SMH.

[DAF86]

it's incredible to me how d'antoni abandoned the PnR... nash and amare... cp3/harden + capela can't do that ??? SMH.

I've been saying it all season: all they do is iso now. That shit shouldn't be all that hard to stop by a good team on a 7 games series.

[Clipper Nation]

they will have a different energy in houston and carry it forward. they have lost both games by an average of 5 points.

The only reason this game was even close was because of fluke chucking and the massive ref favoritism that the league gave the Rockets just to make them stop whining. I had the Warriors in 6, but now I'll be shocked if it goes more than 5.

[gambit1990]

The only reason this game was even close was because of fluke chucking and the massive ref favoritism that the league gave the Rockets just to make them stop whining. I had the Warriors in 6, but now I'll be shocked if it goes more than 5.
harden was out for most of the first half.

[DC23]

I'd like to see Faried play more. For whatever reason Capela is playing super soft. Faried will bring defensive intensity and grab rebounds. Giving up offensive rebounds killed Houston tonight (just as it did it game 1).

[apalisoc_9]

I'd like to see Faried play more. For whatever reason Capela is playing super soft. Faried will bring defensive intensity and grab rebounds. Giving up offensive rebounds killed Houston tonight (just as it did it game 1).

Faried is one of worst defensive big Ive seen in a very long time. What are you talking about?

[FrostKing]

What a Game 2 on the road lay down. Warriors got desperate and Harden emotional. Series over. Rockets will not win on the road for the Series.

[LkrFan]

kZF6sHopRHM

[midnightpulp]

kZF6sHopRHM

Soaking in det Lakers North win, eh?

[140]

harden was out for most of the first half.
the rockets outscored the warriors while he was out :lol

[boutons_deux]

again, GSW injures their playoff opponent's best player

the eye-poker did his dirty deed and left quickly, no looking back, no apology

[vavvi]

Can't wait for Durant to leave

[gambit1990]

the rockets outscored the warriors while he was out :lol
true. but only by a few points. rockets could've outscored them by more if he was playing.

[Clipper Nation]

Is Morey going to include this in his next report to the league?

https://streamable.com/tuxfk

CP0 continues to be a dirty, bitchmade player.

[D-Wade]

One of these things is not like the other. Career Playoff FG%

Mike: 48.7%
Bean: 44.8%
Flash: 47.4%
Haren:41.6%

[LkrFan]

Soaking in det Lakers North win, eh?

Hahaha - yep yep. :tu

[Arcadian]

One of these things is not like the other. Career Playoff FG%

Mike: 48.7%
Bean: 44.8%
Flash: 47.4%
Haren:41.6%

More like two of those are not like the others. (Sub-45 is bad)

[D-Wade]

More like two of those are not like the others. (Sub-45 is bad)

True. But as much as I hated Kobe when he was playing, I'd take him over the current brand of hoops played by Haren et al

[UZER]

:lol

Of course Draymonds tech was rescinded.

[LkrFan]

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:lol

[LkrFan]

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:lol

[lefty]

Let’s go

[DC23]

Game time

[davethedope]

Fun Fact: The official title of the NBA on ESPN/ABC theme music is "The Ballad of Jeff Van Gundy"

[phxspurfan]

Whos ready for some extremely frustrating to watch basketball

[D-Wade]

lol Chris Fall

[DC23]

Harden not really involved.

[DC23]

That's a foul on Curry lol

[phxspurfan]

Harden not really involved.

Draymond hit him in his eye again

[DC23]

Draymond hit him in his eye again
Intentionally too.

[lefty]

Shitty refs + bad shot selection by Houston

[Bynumite]

That Capela block was filthy :wow

[D-Wade]

lol jumping on a Shumpert 3 point pump fake. :lmao

[AlexJones]

:lmao Eric Gordon knew Klay faggot ass can't dribble

[lefty]

:lol Klay is a good ball handler they said

:lol better fundamuntaZ todayZ


:lol glorified Ehlo

[DC23]

Gordon having a big game. Going for 40+

[Clipper Nation]

Team Leader Gordon bailing out Frauden's fake-ass legacy.

[Robz4000]

Team Leader Gordon bailing out Frauden's fake-ass legacy.

What legacy? Only thing he's known for in the playoffs is choking.

[D-Wade]

Gordon and Houston's D is the difference tonite.

[Clipper Nation]

What legacy? Only thing he's known for in the playoffs is choking.
Media thinks he's amazing because of his ref-created stats.

[Clipper Nation]

Gordon and Houston's D is the difference tonite.

Nah, the difference is that Curry is choking and shook.

[Robz4000]

Media thinks he's amazing because of his ref-created stats.

Media will always cover for those who play in a large market or are highly marketable tbh. Harden could never win another playoff game and the talking heads would still call him a HoFer.

[lefty]

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[Clipper Nation]

If the Warriors were smart, they'd pull a Lakers and start putting up #StayKD billboards all over the Bay.

[DC23]

KD getting hot

[DMC]

GS lucky they have Durant. The other two are meh.

[DC23]

6 point swing off the Gordon miss and Thompson make. Big shot

[Robz4000]

Does Harden show up in game 4 if the Rockets lose or does he run to the strip clubs again?

[Clipper Nation]

GS lucky they have Durant. The other two are meh.

Durbeta is still a bitch for joining them, and he was getting carried by a stacked team the first few years, but yeah, it's finally true now. Curry has turned into a lazy passenger come playoff time, content to let KD do all the work. He's a monster when the Warriors are up double digits and it's time to pad stats, but that's about it.

[DC23]

Does Harden show up in game 4 if the Rockets lose or does he run to the strip clubs again?
If the Rockets don't win today it won't matter...will get swept.

[apalisoc_9]

Watching Houston and the Clippers defensive schemes, it's crazy how the warriors have Kevin Durant but opposition team cant afford to gameplan defensivley against him the way teams Gameplan against Harden, Kawhi, Giannis, Lillard so far in the playoffs.

He gets so much single coverage points because of Curry and Thompson offball movement.

The Celtics game last night for example, Celtics would litteraly send 4 defenders to stop Giannis drive. Kawhi is going 2 on 1 in most occasions, and Harden and Dame are always seeing the double team first.

Its just a ridiculous advantage. How can teams defend GS, if they cant even afford to defend Durant like they do with mega performers in the playoffs so far.

I mean dude was litterally being guarded one on one by a 6'2 guard.

[DC23]

Houston needs to execute here

[DC23]

Embarassing. Wow

[D-Wade]

lol Haren and Paul

[Robz4000]

With Iguodala showing he was sleepwalking through the regular season the Dubs just don't have any weaknesses other teams can exploit. They're gonna cruise to the threepeat.