Off Season Write Up

[DPG21920]

timvp or anyone: I am assuming there is going to be some sort of thread (meaningful) with an off season write up?

Is someone working on that? Anyone want to volunteer if not? Everything from the draft and what needs there are, to current player decisions and free agency/trades.

Maybe with a focus on next season, but also some notes about the upcoming 3-5 years in mind?

[Robz4000]

I'd like our resident expert SpursforSix's take on this topic tbh. Provided he isn't too busy being our Track and Field, Blues, and Comedic expert.

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[phxspurfan]

I'd like our resident expert SpursforSix's take on this topic tbh. Provided he isn't too busy being our Track and Field, Blues, and Comedic expert.

You forgot hurricanes

[Robz4000]

You forgot hurricanes

What isn't he an expert at tbh?

[DPG21920]

So taking this as a no :lol? Maybe its just too soon and nobody cares even though the draft is in about 50 days.

[TimDunkem]

Add a healthy Murray, replace Q and Dante with more rooks who won't play or washed up vets who can't contribute, continue doubling down on the loser club (LMA,DD, Gay, Mills), and try again.

That's about it.

[Robz4000]

So taking this as a no :lol? Maybe its just too soon and nobody cares even though the draft is in about 50 days.

I could do one but there'd be a lot of player/PATFO bashing :lol...

[timvp]

timvp or anyone: I am assuming there is going to be some sort of thread (meaningful) with an off season write up?

Is someone working on that? Anyone want to volunteer if not? Everything from the draft and what needs there are, to current player decisions and free agency/trades.

Maybe with a focus on next season, but also some notes about the upcoming 3-5 years in mind?

Yeah, got such writeups in the works :tu

[DPG21920]

Yeah, got such writeups in the works :tu

Money - let me know if you require any assistance.

[spurraider21]

marco at 6 mil and bertans at 7 mil are the realistic trade pieces given they have expiring deals.

[DPG21920]

marco at 6 mil and bertans at 7 mil are the realistic trade pieces given they have expiring deals.

I can see Forbes being moved too.

[spurraider21]

I can see Forbes being moved too.
he's to cheap to bother moving. the purpose of trading expiring deals (other than pure cash dumps) is to get an average/above average player from a team that intends to rebuild. those players are typically paid quite well... so a 3 mil expiring deal isn't really helping.

[DPG21920]

he's to cheap to bother moving. the purpose of trading expiring deals (other than pure cash dumps) is to get an average/above average player from a team that intends to rebuild. those players are typically paid quite well... so a 3 mil expiring deal isn't really helping.

I”m not saying SA will want to move him or should; but I can see a scenario where a team would ask for him and pick 19 if SA wanted to move up and get the SF/PF they want in the draft.

There might be teams that value Forbes the player (especially on that type of deal) and it may be the cost of doing business.

Again, don’t think there is value for SA in trading a player like Forbes; it should be Beli or Mills first, but I can see a scenario where they may have to do it to get what they want.

[spurraider21]

i just cant envision a realistic scenario. he's too valuable relative to his salary.

[apalisoc_9]

I can see Forbes being moved too.

That would be silly. Marco will be traded unless PATFO is extremely retarded. If anything, just to open space in that wing area.

They'll probably give Bertans another chance.

[MultiTroll]

What isn't he an expert at tbh?
pussy
muscle cars
bitcoin

[DPG21920]

That would be silly. Marco will be traded unless PATFO is extremely retarded. If anything, just to open space in that wing area.

They'll probably give Bertans another chance.

Trading Beli and others is a different proposition. Agreed SA will need a trade to open up space. That seems very likely if they are serious about getting Murray/Lonnie minutes.

But SA needs that SF badly; if they love someone in this draft and need to move up? 19 + 29 alone may not be enough. We will see.

I don’t think Forbes will be prioritized in terms of a trade (I said it will be Beli, then Mills, then Forbes) but you can see why other teams would rather have Forbes than Beli/Mills and SA seemingly has to trade to open up minutes. If they need to move up in the draft? That’s an entirely different ballgame that might require them parting with someone they would prefer not to.

[apalisoc_9]

Likely, they'll attempt to sign gay for a year and they should but its possible they'll be forced to sign him into two years..

Rudy is still a decent role player off the bench tbh.

they can win 50 next year, but they seriously need to fix that Belli-Mills-Forbes Rotation

[DPG21920]

Likely, they'll attempt to sign gay for a year and they should but its possible they'll be forced to sign him into two years..

Rudy is still a decent role player off the bench tbh.

they can win 50 next year, but they seriously need to fix that Belli-Mills-Forbes Rotation

Spurs had Rudy this year and still had a big SF problem.

[RC_Drunkford]

Spurs had Rudy this year and still had a big SF problem.

there are a lot of good 3-and-D SFs who are free agents this offseason. Marcus Morris, Demarre Carroll, Ariza, Danny Green, Iman Shumpert, Bojan Bogdanovic, Mbah Moute, Jeff Green, Stanley Johnson, etc., etc.

Spurs should definitely be able to sign one, the question is who will be available for 9.1 million or less?

[apalisoc_9]

there are a lot of good 3-and-D SFs who are free agents this offseason. Marcus Morris, Demarre Carroll, Ariza, Danny Green, Iman Shumpert, Bojan Bogdanovic, Mbah Moute, Jeff Green, Stanley Johnson, etc., etc.

Spurs should definitely be able to sign one, the question is who will be available for 9.1 million or less?

Bojan, Danny Green would be too expensive.
Jeff Green is a retard
Mbah Moute wont see a minute in a pop lineup

Ariza wont accept less money. :lol

I know the list looks long, buts it really not if you start filtering possibilities.

[spurs10]

Yeah, got such writeups in the works :tu


Money - let me know if you require any assistance. Good to hear gentlemen!

[DPG21920]

Maybe Carroll? His 3PT shot has fallen off and he was way overpaid, but maybe the market will adjust for him?

[spurs10]

there are a lot of good 3-and-D SFs who are free agents this offseason. Marcus Morris, Demarre Carroll, Ariza, Danny Green, Iman Shumpert, Bojan Bogdanovic, Mbah Moute, Jeff Green, Stanley Johnson, etc., etc.

Spurs should definitely be able to sign one, the question is who will be available for 9.1 million or less? This is what I'm really wondering about. How much money we could actually have for said player?

[RC_Drunkford]

Bojan, Danny Green would be too expensive.
Jeff Green is a retard
Mbah Moute wont see a minute in a pop lineup

Ariza wont accept less money. :lol

I know the list looks long, buts it really not if you start filtering possibilities.

Oubre,Terrence Ross (no D), Hezonja, Sefolosha, Alec Burks, Caldwell-Pope

I know, but there are so many available that it shouldn't be a problem to grab one. My top choice would be Marcus Morris, but I think teams will overpay him. Ariza might not get that type of money anymore due to his age. Carroll I think is realistic, given his age and his last contract 9.1 million should be his range. Plus he played with DeMar on the Raptors. Other than that I could see the Spurs go after Stanley Johnson if NOLA makes him an unrestricted free agent, they been high on him and his stock has fallen. He basically went from starter to 3rd stringer and is still young. I'd sign Jeff Green for the minimum as a back up, he's a better player than Dante Cunningham that's for sure.

[RC_Drunkford]

This is what I'm really wondering about. How much money we could actually have for said player?

we got the MLE, that's 9.1 million if I'm not mistaken. I'd suggest to use it completely to get one of the better SFs who can be a starter. Otherwise you split it on 2 players

[BackHome]

Not going to get anyone any good a lot of teams are going to have money this off season so everybody is getting over paid. Just sign Nikola and Ben Moore and and draft Rui and Louis King then we good to rock

[Mugen]

I'm going to set the bar for this offseason at not bringing back QPon or Dante and not bringing in somebody like them (Washed up veterans who provided absolutely nothing to the team from an on-court perspective) to waste two roster spots.

That's the bar for this FO :lol

[r0drig0lac]

two of Ariza, Jeff and Stanley

[spurs10]

we got the MLE, that's 9.1 million if I'm not mistaken. I'd suggest to use it completely to get one of the better SFs who can be a starter. Otherwise you split it on 2 players Thanks, I'm with you on spending it on a SF.

[SouthTexasRancher]

timvp (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8) or anyone: I am assuming there is going to be some sort of thread (meaningful) with an off season write up?

Is someone working on that? Anyone want to volunteer if not? Everything from the draft and what needs there are, to current player decisions and free agency/trades.

Maybe with a focus on next season, but also some notes about the upcoming 3-5 years in mind?


Seems like you have already started an "Off Season Write Up" thread. Not sure another one is needed.

Anyway :toast for thinking about starting one. However, with Pop already indicating the Spurs will most likely stay pat it might be a boring off season.

[SouthTexasRancher]

we got the MLE, that's 9.1 million if I'm not mistaken. I'd suggest to use it completely to get one of the better SFs who can be a starter. Otherwise you split it on 2 players

Definitely! You are absolutely, positively spot on about this. :tu

We need that guy in a bad way. Long, athletic, defensive minded, slasher and 3 point shooting Small Forward. And not some 6'4" midget.

[HankChinaski]

1. Honestly standing Pat and just drafting solid picks with three best available on the board at the time of each pick.

2. Definitely do not overpaying with extensions and/or bad contracts and I will think of this off season as a victory.

3. Do what they do every year with the last two the three spots and farm the undrafted summer league invites and throw some non guaranteed contracts for pre-season and see what sticks with the obvious position of need at the 3 with draft, signings, pre season.

[DMC]

I'd like our resident expert SpursforSix's take on this topic tbh. Provided he isn't too busy being our Track and Field, Blues, and Comedic expert.

I hear there's a sale on honey at the Blanco/West Ave HEB.

[DMC]

there are a lot of good 3-and-D SFs who are free agents this offseason.

Marcus Morris (uncoachable)
Demarre Carroll (overrated, career loser)
Ariza (good but washed up, basically Antonio McDyess 2.0)
Danny Green (I'd take Danny back easily)
Iman Shumpert (hell no)
Bojan Bogdanovic (maybe, name rhymes too well with Boban though)
Mbah Moute (jesus fuck no)
Jeff Green (Joe Johnson 2.0
Stanley Johnson (never heard of him, he's the guy)

Spurs should definitely be able to sign one, the question is who will be available for 9.1 million or less?

see my answers in parenthesis

[Seventyniner]

I'm excited to see how PATFO builds the team this offseason. In last summer's free agency they skewed towards offense with Beli and choosing Bertans over Anderson because last year's team didn't have enough shooting, but then the Number Two trade threw the balance completely off. Murray getting hurt made things worse by forcing Pop to play Forbes and Mills more.

This year they know what they have to work with and should be able to build a much more balanced roster.

[venitian navigator]

Considering age is an important factor I think our choice on a mid level small free agent small forward should concentrate on someone who can develop chemistry with our young guns in the coming 3/4 seasons (that's the possible - assuming all are re-signed being rfa or team friends- minimum extent of players like DJM, White, Walker, Forbes, our two first and Poeltl.
The two names who could possibly fit these perspective are, imho, Johnson and Henzonja. Both are young and top ten draft pick talented, at least phisically...so they could fit perfectly with the time line of the rest of the youngsters of our team, and they could be well developed and improved in their obvious weaknesses by our staff...the problem with Johnson is most of all his confidence and his shooting; the problem with Henzonja is that he has to get over himself and understand he has to become coachable for his own good (otherwise he'll be always reminded as a game of zones character...aka a player who's not worth a horse that makes horse's stuff).

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

there are a lot of good 3-and-D SFs who are free agents this offseason. Marcus Morris, Demarre Carroll, Ariza, Danny Green, Iman Shumpert, Bojan Bogdanovic, Mbah Moute, Jeff Green, Stanley Johnson, etc., etc.

Spurs should definitely be able to sign one, the question is who will be available for 9.1 million or less?

I remember our guys was looking into trying to trade for Stanley Johnson a couple of seasons ago. The guy is still young and could become a better shooter under the right tutelage and he is already a good defender. I wouldn't mind the team taking a flyer on him and I wouldn't be surprised I'd they did.

[Atl Spur]

I’m thinking Johnson and/or Huestis will be on this team next year. Adding Okeke and a athletic defensive minded big would be great. Stanley can easily be our new age Bruce Bowen:)

[vavvi]

marco at 6 mil and bertans at 7 mil are the realistic trade pieces given they have expiring deals.

Bertans is the king of advance stats. And he still can improve. I would give him another chance.

[Brazil]

Yeah, got such writeups in the works :tu

no pressure but most important thread of the year :tu hopefully tony is back for one year

[jjktkk]

Spurs had Rudy this year and still had a big SF problem.

TBH, at this point in his career, Gay is a stretch 4 that can occasionally slide over and play 3 in some instances. The biggest need for this team is a starting caliber sf, who can defend.

[RC_Drunkford]

age wise Stanley Johnson is definitely the best option, as he fits the timeline of our young guys. The question is can he develop a reliable 3-point shot. I guess Spurs think Chip can fix that, since they have been high on him for years now. The problem is he got traded from Detroit to NOLA and is a restricted free agent. So our only chance to sign him is if the Pelicans don't want to keep him and make him an unrestricted free agent.

I think Carroll should be a target. Somebody like Jeff Green can be the end of the bench back up. People here criticize those players but we had Dante Cunningham and he wasn't even good enough to get minutes :rollinAll these players I mentioned would be an upgrade from the Dante/Pondexter tandem