Offseason Index: Draft Prospects and Free Agents

[Fusternino]

Honestly, might wanna consider bringing Dedmon back. We need a stretch 5.

[DavidTheGoliath]

Honestly, might wanna consider bringing Dedmon back. We need a stretch 5.

:pop: No we dont. Now bend over and I'll show you a stretch 5.

[BackHome]

Ouch that going to leave a mark. Lol

[GreekSpursfan]

I don't know if anyone has made this suggestion (most probably has) but i would take G.Hill back, i think its time.

[JeffDuncan]

I don't know if anyone has made this suggestion (most probably has) but i would take G.Hill back, i think its time.

George Hill, you mean? Why would we want him?

[RC_Drunkford]

I don't know if anyone has made this suggestion (most probably has) but i would take G.Hill back, i think its time.

I thought the same, but we have too many guards. I don't think it makes sense to add another one, we gotta get rid of 1 or 2. Spurs should strictly sign forwards and 1 Center

[tholdren]

George Hill, you mean? Why would we want him?
Timvp alt

[Chinook]

Wrong. We will play LMA and Poetl as starters next season. I hate when you post like a know-it-all as if you knew for sure the Spurs will play this line-up that has Aldridge as our center when there is absolutely no basis for it. Even Aldridge has stated PF is his natural position and even when we had ended the season with Aldridge and Poetl starting together. Sometimes youre a good poster and sometimes you just suck, man. I cant wait until next season starts and/or when this team doesnt find a PF you claim the Spurs should get to start with Aldridge. So dumb.

:rolleyes Well, I guess if Aldridge says he's a PF, that's what he is. It's really dumb to go around crying about my "know-it-all posts" when you make as many bold, baseless assertions as anyone. More importantly, you seem to have misunderstood my post if you thought I was speaking about what I think the team WILL do rather than what I think they SHOULD do. I even said later in my exchange with Deeps that I didn't think they'd be aggressive enough to improve their rotation. You can sit there and be glad if the team doesn't try to improve its front court, but I have no idea why you would. Most fans should want their teams to get better, not to get worse or stay the same so they can win an "argument" with some dude online.

[GreekSpursfan]

I thought the same, but we have too many guards. I don't think it makes sense to add another one, we gotta get rid of 1 or 2. Spurs should strictly sign forwards and 1 Center

Get rid of Mills somehow. Thats the only plan, isn't it? Seeing Hill play for the Bucks, he would be a huge upgrade on both ends. We need to maximize Pop's window.

[BillMc]

Spurs to workout LSU's Reid, Maryland's Fernando
https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-to-workout-lsus-reid

[ZeusWillJudge]

A buddy got to go watch the Elite Camp this year, and says Terence Davis was impressive. Does anyone know anything about him? I never watched him play at Ole Miss. His college numbers are pretty solid, and he got his 3P% up to .371 this season, on 5.3 attempts per game. His performance at the Elite Camp got him an invite to the combine.

I read an interview and he says he brings a football player mentality (he gave up football for basketball). That's either really good or really bad, but it would be nice to have a motor guy with the toughness to stand up to NBA physicality from the start. I also just saw that GSW brought him in for a workout, in addition to Boston and Atlanta. They're still projecting him to go in the late second round, even though everything I can find about him would have him going higher than that. The only thing I can see against him is his height, but that's nearly every player we're talking about.

Just wondering if any of you actually saw him at Ole Miss?

[Degoat]

It does seem like the spurs are looking for bigs considering the guys they have worked out

[picnroll]

Nazr Reid has a higher body fat percentage than a stick of butter. Jackie Butler part 2.

[acoelho1]

This draft seems tough to handicap because there are a few guys that could be there at 19 that the Spurs may like which bold's well for us to pick up a good player. I trust PAFTO over any front office out there to scout the right guy.

[duncan2150]

Nazr Reid has a higher body fat percentage than a stick of butter. Jackie Butler part 2.

It’s a little bit strange because he did not look that fat. A guy like Horton tucker looks more fat than him for example.

[duncan2150]

Spurs to workout LSU's Reid, Maryland's Fernando


https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-to-workout-lsus-reid

i wanted to ask timvp for a reid profile but he was sliding a little bit so I forgot it.

He was pretty good at LSU this year, not a shotblocker but a good hustle guy with good rebounding rate and some offense.

[talkspurs]

When are you going to start doing FA?

[Degoat]

I’m for us drafting a big in this draft but what does that mean for Nikola Milutinov if we do that? I know most people aren’t very high on him but he kinda reminds me of Jonas valanciunas, not as good but kinda similar

[DPG21920]

These next 17 days can’t go by fast enough. I’m so ready for the draft

[sasaint]

These next 17 days can’t go by fast enough. I’m so ready for the draft

I am afraid you are building yourself up for a big let down.

[DPG21920]

I am afraid you are building yourself up for a big let down.

I have fun no matter what. This will be my third year in a row at the draft and it’s a great event. Lonnie was who I wanted last year and it was amazing to see him fall to SA.

[C-Dub]

Let Rudy walk and sign Dedmon to 3yr 36. Trade Metu and 29th pick to Atlanta for T. Prince. Line up for next season:

DJM, DDR, Prince, LMA, Poeltl
White, Mills, LW4, Bertans, Dedmon
Forbes, Belinelli, B. Moore, Eubanks, 19th pic

If all goes well with this lineup then Forbes and/or Belinelli could be traded for a veteran PF/C that can shot the 3 at a decent percentage. Would be a better team than the past couple of years with a young athletic core.

[tbdog]

Not cap to do the above.

[sasaint]

I have fun no matter what. This will be my third year in a row at the draft and it’s a great event. Lonnie was who I wanted last year and it was amazing to see him fall to SA.

:toast Enjoy the event, if that's your focus. I personally don't expect the Spurs to do anything very impactful. I expect them to head into the season maintaining the logjam in the backcourt. I will be disappointed but not surprised.

[pad300]

Hey TiMVP, given you did profiles for Daqan Jeffries and Admiral Schofield, you're looking at 2nd rounders. A couple of suggestions for you to run your eye over:

Jordan Bone

Abdoulaye N'Doye

[slick'81]

I am afraid you are building yourself up for a big let down.


Those two picks in the twenties though

[ceperez]

Abdoulaye N'Doye ... could be undrafted or picked at #49.

[DPG21920]

Can someone post this: https://theathletic.com/1006765/2019/06/04/charanias-inside-pass-all-eyes-on-davis-and-pelicans-future-as-their-talks-begin-to-take-shape-plus-more-league-notes/

[r0drig0lac]

Can someone post this: https://theathletic.com/1006765/2019/06/04/charanias-inside-pass-all-eyes-on-davis-and-pelicans-future-as-their-talks-begin-to-take-shape-plus-more-league-notes/


By Shams Charania 5h ago 51
TORONTO — The proverbial countdown clock continues to tick for Anthony Davis and the New Orleans Pelicans.

As The Athletic reported on Wednesday, Davis and his agent, Rich Paul, met with new Pelicans Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations David Griffin in Los Angeles, a sit-down that allowed Griffin to paint the picture of his vision to the Pelicans’ star player. Davis requested a trade from the Pelicans in January, and as reported after New Orleans won the No. 1 pick in the draft lottery on May 14, his stance had not changed following that seemingly unexpected positive result for the franchise.

While the sit-down on Wednesday was said to have been respectful and productive, Davis’ stance regarding his desire for a trade is highly unlikely to change, league sources have said. As teams continue placing calls into New Orleans, Griffin has begun listening to teams and their inquiries on Davis, league sources told The Athletic. Previously, the Pelicans had been trying to pitch Davis to stay — and now they are at least open to hearing people out.

Griffin has made sharp moves since taking over as the leader of the Pelicans’ front office, hiring Trajan Langdon from the Brooklyn Nets to be his general manager and bringing over members of the Phoenix Suns’ highly-regarded training staff to New Orleans. It is also true that Griffin and Paul share a strong relationship, dating back to Griffin’s time with the Cleveland Cavaliers and Paul being the agent of Cavaliers players LeBron James, J.R. Smith and Tristan Thompson. But Davis’ mind will almost assuredly not change. That would also mean bypassing the super maximum extension that only New Orleans could offer Davis in July.

The Pelicans are on stable footing right now: An All-Star-type talent in Jrue Holiday signed long-term, cap flexibility, a fortified front office … and, most importantly, the No. 1 overall pick to select Zion Williamson. The potential faces of the franchise, Williamson and Holiday, could set Griffin’s era in motion in a positive light. With or without Davis, the Pelicans are building a sustainable model.

Between now and the draft, teams will continue placing calls into the Pelicans. They already have been, and Griffin has started to listen, sources said. Griffin has the option of keeping Davis until the February trade deadline, if not all season, but the fact that Davis’ stance remains firm means the same thing now as it would later.

Across the NBA, rival executives believe the following teams will be able to compile the best packages: The Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks, Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets. Davis’ preferred destinations list of four teams includes the Lakers, Knicks and LA Clippers and that will embolden those teams to pursue him strongest of all.

As for Davis himself, he is in wait-and-see mode now and simply going about his workout regimen with fellow Pelicans players such as Holiday, Frank Jackson and Stanley Johnson. Griffin and Holiday spent time with each other in Los Angeles as well, league sources said, as Griffin continues to build strong rapports throughout his roster. Holiday is a cornerstone for the Pelicans, a two-way guard who has shouldered a leadership role for the franchise.

For the Pelicans and Davis, the clock is still ticking down after Wednesday and the ball is rolling down the court.

More news and notes from around the NBA…

Atlanta Hawks

The Hawks could be a destination for contract dumps once again, sources said. Atlanta also has interest in potentially re-signing free agent center Dewayne Dedmon to a balloon one-year deal, according to sources — or a shorter-term contract like the two-year, $14 million deal he signed in 2017.

Boston Celtics

Celtics free agent Marcus Morris will have strong interest as a second-tier free agent, with teams such as the Knicks, Kings, Lakers, Clippers and Bulls expected to be in pursuit, league sources said. Morris, 29, had arguably his best all-around season, averaging 13.9 points, 6.1 rebounds and 1.5 assists per game and serving as a versatile scorer and defender either as a starter or reserve. League sources say Morris remains open-minded about returning to Boston, which wants to bring Morris back but has several summer priorities such as Kyrie Irving.

Brooklyn Nets

A market is forming for Nets All-Star and restricted free agent D’Angelo Russell: Utah, Orlando, Minnesota and Indiana are among the teams expected to show an interest aside from Brooklyn, sources said.

Charlotte Hornets

The Hornets and Kemba Walker both have each other as top priorities entering July 1, league sources said. Walker confirmed to Jared Weiss of The Athletic that the Hornets remain his “first priority” during his tour of Tokyo as an NBA ambassador there during the NBA Finals. Walker made the All-NBA third team this year after another spectacular season, allowing him to sign a five-year, $221 million super maximum contract. There is doubt around the NBA that the Hornets will reach that high amount, but owner Michael Jordan’s loyalty has always been with Walker.

Cleveland Cavaliers

A team that has expressed an interest in a salary-designed trade of J.R. Smith: the Miami Heat, sources said. The Heat also have contracts they could look to move in the offseason in a deal such as this, and would have to absorb Smith’s deal.

Golden State Warriors

Warriors assistant Willie Green has been offered a leading assistant coaching job for the Phoenix Suns under Monty Willams and the Suns are hopeful that Green accepts, league sources said. Green, 37, played 12 NBA seasons and has been a player development assistant coach for the Warriors. He played for Williams in New Orleans in 2010-11.

Los Angeles Lakers

Jason Kidd’s contract with the Lakers made him the highest paid assistant coach in the NBA, sources with knowledge of the deal said.

Memphis Grizzlies

Memphis interviewed Milwaukee Bucks assistant Taylor Jenkins for a second time last week, league sources said.

Oklahoma City Thunder

The Thunder have had multiple conversations with various teams about using their No. 21 pick in a trade to reduce team salary and relieve financial pressure, league sources said.

Orlando Magic

Second-year center Khem Birch emerged as one of the top young backup centers this past season, averaging 4.8 points and 3.8 rebounds in 12.9 minutes per game. He capped the Magic’s season with a 9-point, 11-rebound, four-block performance in their season-ending loss to the Toronto Raptors in the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs. The Magic will attempt to re-sign Birch and will almost assuredly make him a restricted free agent by extending him a qualifying offer, but Philadelphia expressed interest in him during the season and there could be several more this offseason, sources said.

Phoenix Suns

Expect restricted free agent Kelly Oubre Jr. to emerge as a priority for the Suns entering July 1. Oubre averaged 20.2 points per game in 12 starts for the Suns during their best stretch of the season to close 2018-19. If Oubre enters the market, he’s a prime option for teams with cap space that strike out on their first-tier targets.

Sacramento Kings

The Kings have been prioritizing a center in the free-agent marketplace, league sources said.

[DPG21920]

By Shams Charania 5h ago 51
TORONTO — The proverbial countdown clock continues to tick for Anthony Davis and the New Orleans Pelicans.

As The Athletic reported on Wednesday, Davis and his agent, Rich Paul, met with new Pelicans Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations David Griffin in Los Angeles, a sit-down that allowed Griffin to paint the picture of his vision to the Pelicans’ star player. Davis requested a trade from the Pelicans in January, and as reported after New Orleans won the No. 1 pick in the draft lottery on May 14, his stance had not changed following that seemingly unexpected positive result for the franchise.

While the sit-down on Wednesday was said to have been respectful and productive, Davis’ stance regarding his desire for a trade is highly unlikely to change, league sources have said. As teams continue placing calls into New Orleans, Griffin has begun listening to teams and their inquiries on Davis, league sources told The Athletic. Previously, the Pelicans had been trying to pitch Davis to stay — and now they are at least open to hearing people out.

Griffin has made sharp moves since taking over as the leader of the Pelicans’ front office, hiring Trajan Langdon from the Brooklyn Nets to be his general manager and bringing over members of the Phoenix Suns’ highly-regarded training staff to New Orleans. It is also true that Griffin and Paul share a strong relationship, dating back to Griffin’s time with the Cleveland Cavaliers and Paul being the agent of Cavaliers players LeBron James, J.R. Smith and Tristan Thompson. But Davis’ mind will almost assuredly not change. That would also mean bypassing the super maximum extension that only New Orleans could offer Davis in July.

The Pelicans are on stable footing right now: An All-Star-type talent in Jrue Holiday signed long-term, cap flexibility, a fortified front office … and, most importantly, the No. 1 overall pick to select Zion Williamson. The potential faces of the franchise, Williamson and Holiday, could set Griffin’s era in motion in a positive light. With or without Davis, the Pelicans are building a sustainable model.

Between now and the draft, teams will continue placing calls into the Pelicans. They already have been, and Griffin has started to listen, sources said. Griffin has the option of keeping Davis until the February trade deadline, if not all season, but the fact that Davis’ stance remains firm means the same thing now as it would later.

Across the NBA, rival executives believe the following teams will be able to compile the best packages: The Los Angeles Lakers, New York Knicks, Boston Celtics and Brooklyn Nets. Davis’ preferred destinations list of four teams includes the Lakers, Knicks and LA Clippers and that will embolden those teams to pursue him strongest of all.

As for Davis himself, he is in wait-and-see mode now and simply going about his workout regimen with fellow Pelicans players such as Holiday, Frank Jackson and Stanley Johnson. Griffin and Holiday spent time with each other in Los Angeles as well, league sources said, as Griffin continues to build strong rapports throughout his roster. Holiday is a cornerstone for the Pelicans, a two-way guard who has shouldered a leadership role for the franchise.

For the Pelicans and Davis, the clock is still ticking down after Wednesday and the ball is rolling down the court.

More news and notes from around the NBA…

Atlanta Hawks

The Hawks could be a destination for contract dumps once again, sources said. Atlanta also has interest in potentially re-signing free agent center Dewayne Dedmon to a balloon one-year deal, according to sources — or a shorter-term contract like the two-year, $14 million deal he signed in 2017.

Boston Celtics

Celtics free agent Marcus Morris will have strong interest as a second-tier free agent, with teams such as the Knicks, Kings, Lakers, Clippers and Bulls expected to be in pursuit, league sources said. Morris, 29, had arguably his best all-around season, averaging 13.9 points, 6.1 rebounds and 1.5 assists per game and serving as a versatile scorer and defender either as a starter or reserve. League sources say Morris remains open-minded about returning to Boston, which wants to bring Morris back but has several summer priorities such as Kyrie Irving.

Brooklyn Nets

A market is forming for Nets All-Star and restricted free agent D’Angelo Russell: Utah, Orlando, Minnesota and Indiana are among the teams expected to show an interest aside from Brooklyn, sources said.

Charlotte Hornets

The Hornets and Kemba Walker both have each other as top priorities entering July 1, league sources said. Walker confirmed to Jared Weiss of The Athletic that the Hornets remain his “first priority” during his tour of Tokyo as an NBA ambassador there during the NBA Finals. Walker made the All-NBA third team this year after another spectacular season, allowing him to sign a five-year, $221 million super maximum contract. There is doubt around the NBA that the Hornets will reach that high amount, but owner Michael Jordan’s loyalty has always been with Walker.

Cleveland Cavaliers

A team that has expressed an interest in a salary-designed trade of J.R. Smith: the Miami Heat, sources said. The Heat also have contracts they could look to move in the offseason in a deal such as this, and would have to absorb Smith’s deal.

Golden State Warriors

Warriors assistant Willie Green has been offered a leading assistant coaching job for the Phoenix Suns under Monty Willams and the Suns are hopeful that Green accepts, league sources said. Green, 37, played 12 NBA seasons and has been a player development assistant coach for the Warriors. He played for Williams in New Orleans in 2010-11.

Los Angeles Lakers

Jason Kidd’s contract with the Lakers made him the highest paid assistant coach in the NBA, sources with knowledge of the deal said.

Memphis Grizzlies

Memphis interviewed Milwaukee Bucks assistant Taylor Jenkins for a second time last week, league sources said.

Oklahoma City Thunder

The Thunder have had multiple conversations with various teams about using their No. 21 pick in a trade to reduce team salary and relieve financial pressure, league sources said.

Orlando Magic

Second-year center Khem Birch emerged as one of the top young backup centers this past season, averaging 4.8 points and 3.8 rebounds in 12.9 minutes per game. He capped the Magic’s season with a 9-point, 11-rebound, four-block performance in their season-ending loss to the Toronto Raptors in the first round of the Eastern Conference playoffs. The Magic will attempt to re-sign Birch and will almost assuredly make him a restricted free agent by extending him a qualifying offer, but Philadelphia expressed interest in him during the season and there could be several more this offseason, sources said.

Phoenix Suns

Expect restricted free agent Kelly Oubre Jr. to emerge as a priority for the Suns entering July 1. Oubre averaged 20.2 points per game in 12 starts for the Suns during their best stretch of the season to close 2018-19. If Oubre enters the market, he’s a prime option for teams with cap space that strike out on their first-tier targets.

Sacramento Kings

The Kings have been prioritizing a center in the free-agent marketplace, league sources said.

Thanks!

[ceperez]

Antoine Davis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOAY5ma3oXw

For Pick #49

[MoSpur02]

I want PJ Tucker on the Spurs. Spurs need some toughness

[Dverde]

Hawks traded Prince for Crabbe and pick 17. I love this move for the Nets.

[Degoat]

Dang I wanted prince on the spurs

[acoelho1]

It was a trade to open up cap space. Not sure they are in love with Prince or anything.

[RC_Drunkford]

seems like the Nets secured Kyrie

[Degoat]

Think they keep deangelo Russel if they’re getting Kyrie?? He’s a restricted FA I believe

[DPG21920]

Dang I wanted prince on the spurs

This makes it more likely SA could get Prince. If they wanted

[mo7888]

This makes it more likely SA could get Prince. If they wanted
How so?

[mo7888]

Think they keep deangelo Russel if they’re getting Kyrie?? He’s a restricted FA I believe

I'm not sure about sign and trade rules for rfa's but, I'd think they'd want to use the rest of their cap space on someone other than another point guard in Russell.

[DPG21920]

How so?

I don’t think BKY did the deal because they had a lot of interest in Prince the player. They did it to clear salary. They also had to give up some significant draft capital to do so.

One would think, that if possible, they would love to recoup some draft capital as long as it does not hurt their salary cap goals.

So SA coming in with someone like Forbes + a 2nd round pick or maybe 29th pick should likely get a deal done since it lessens what BKY essentially paid for the salary cap space.

[mo7888]

I don’t think BKY did the deal because they had a lot of interest in Prince the player. They did it to clear salary. They also had to give up some significant draft capital to do so.

One would think, that if possible, they would love to recoup some draft capital as long as it does not hurt their salary cap goals.

So SA coming in with someone like Forbes + a 2nd round pick or maybe 29th pick should likely get a deal done since it lessens what BKY essentially paid for the salary cap space.

I thought it was (the prince part of it) more likely that they put value on prince as a solid role player that was cheap and could compliment kyrie.

I will admit I can see your point of view, especially in a Forbes centered deal though. I hope your way of thinking prevails over mine here.

[Degoat]

If that’s true and they really don’t value prince to be part of the team why not trade the 29th pick for him, that would really help solve the SF issues I think

[look_at_g_shred]

Are we overrating Prince a bit much here? Can someone convince me why we should trade the 29th pick for him? I know SF (3 & D) is a need for this team, but I’d much rather draft KZ Okpala with the 29th pick.

[DPG21920]

I thought it was (the prince part of it) more likely that they put value on prince as a solid role player that was cheap and could compliment kyrie.

I will admit I can see your point of view, especially in a Forbes centered deal though. I hope your way of thinking prevails over mine here.

I think they are fine with Prince and would be happy keeping him over Crabbe anyways. Just saying I think they valued the cap space aspect more and getting draft capital back would be pretty big for them.

[Degoat]

Are we overrating Prince a bit much here? Can someone convince me why we should trade the 29th pick for him? I know SF (3 & D) is a need for this team, but I’d much rather draft KZ Okpala with the 29th pick.

I like KZ too but I personally think he’ll be taken before 29 and Also KZ wouldn’t play at all this upcoming season, he would be in Austin probably all year. Prince could theoretically start at SF from day one with Rudy coming off the bench (if we bring him back)

[look_at_g_shred]

I like KZ too but I personally think he’ll be taken before 29 and Also KZ wouldn’t play at all this upcoming season, he would be in Austin probably all year. Prince could theoretically start at SF from day one with Rudy coming off the bench (if we bring him back)
The way I see it is we are not competing for a championship next year so why not get the most out of a draft where we have multiple firsts? Prince is probably suited better for a win now situation; whereas, KZ has the higher ceiling IMHO, and can grow with our young core.

[timvp]

Are we overrating Prince a bit much here? Can someone convince me why we should trade the 29th pick for him? I know SF (3 & D) is a need for this team, but I’d much rather draft KZ Okpala with the 29th pick.

Okpala at his very best probably is not as good as Prince. I'm not even convinced Okpala would be a good G-Leaguer ... much less an average-ish NBA player.

[look_at_g_shred]

So what do we think about Roby? I haven’t heard much buzz on him. He’s almost never in the top 30 in mocks.

[DPG21920]

After all the work Marks did to get draft picks back to BKY I am legit shocked he gave those picks away. I mean, wow. It could work out but holy heck.

[Degoat]

After all the work Marks did to get draft picks back to BKY I am legit shocked he gave those picks away. I mean, wow. It could work out but holy heck.

I know right!? Plus they were one of the feel good stories in the NBA this season and they basically could be changing their roster quite a bit

[cjw]

I know right!? Plus they were one of the feel good stories in the NBA this season and they basically could be changing their roster quite a bit

The cost to open up cap space only goes up when there are less teams with space to dump onto, and more teams looking for space. The Hawks are one of the few with space that isn’t planning on using it.

Nets were smart to make the move now while also preventing another team from using that ATL space.

[mo7888]

http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-finals-prove-that-draft-success-comes-from-everywhere-not-just-the-top/

I thought this a good article. The last paragraph seemed relevant

[monty4329]

I know right!? Plus they were one of the feel good stories in the NBA this season and they basically could be changing their roster quite a bit

They can now get 2 max level players. Any pick below 3rd has zero value, from this POV.
Feelgood stories don't win anything, though. Looking at where they were two seasons ago, hats down to their FO

[r0drig0lac]

Okpala at his very best probably is not as good as Prince. I'm not even convinced Okpala would be a good G-Leaguer ... much less an average-ish NBA player.

[ceperez]

Good find! At 49 he would be a steal.

[cjw]

Okpala at his very best probably is not as good as Prince. I'm not even convinced Okpala would be a good G-Leaguer ... much less an average-ish NBA player.

True ... not a big Okpala fan.

But Prince is also a year away from RFA and is gonna get a fat offer sheet in excess of what he’s worth. So you have one offseason with him cheap plus maybe the start of 2020 free agency with a low cap hold. That doesn’t really fit the Spurs well as Murray will also be up for a big pay raise and Mills still on the books (and Poeltl a RFA too).

I’d rather have three additional cheap years on a rookie deal on a guy who may never be as good and have more flexibility.

[EricB]

Honestly, might wanna consider bringing Dedmon back. We need a stretch 5.


That bridge is burned by Dedmon so badly that it doesn’t even exist.

[Fusternino]

That bridge is burned by Dedmon so badly that it doesn’t even exist.

Yeah, drafting Fernando seems to be a better choice in this area.

[Dverde]

Any interest in Kevon Looney? Seems like a solid backup for LMA/Pueltl

[JeffDuncan]

Any interest in Kevon Looney? Seems like a solid backup for LMA/Pueltl

For that minimum salary contract he's on, he's definitely worth at least a serious look.

[Degoat]

What are some realistic free agents spurs could add with the MLE??

[pad300]

What are some realistic free agents spurs could add with the MLE??

I like Tomas Satoransky.

[ceperez]

I like Tomas Satoransky.

Yeah, I like his game. I thought we talking about.... Ignas Brazdeikis for the NBA draft.

[venitian navigator]

What are some realistic free agents spurs could add with the MLE??

just as sf/pf Aminu/Stanley Johnson, Hezonja, Mk Kinnie, Hood, Bullock, M. Morris, Carroll, Dudley, M. Milliams and Kidd Gilchrist (if they renounce their p.o.), Finney Smith, Lyles, Jerebko, G. Green, D. Green, D. House, T. Young, B. Bogdanovic (unlikely, too good of a season), W. Chandler, J. Holiday, B. Caboclo, N. Mirotic, P. Patterson, Tolliver, Ross, C. Brewer, Oubre (unlikely, see above), Mc Cow, Sefolosha, J. Parker, T. Ariza, J. Green, T. Satoransky, S. Dekker

[tbdog]

I like Tomas Satoransky.

Yes, I really like his game. He is always in the right spot. Just not a great shooter.

[RC_Drunkford]

does anybody think it would be possible for us to get one of the older combo forwards (Carroll, Ariza) for the room exception of 4.7 million?

[pad300]

does anybody think it would be possible for us to get one of the older combo forwards (Carroll, Ariza) for the room exception of 4.7 million?

Maybe... but
a) It only takes 1 other gm wanting a "name" veteran to screw something like that up,
b) do we really want them? Consider the following comparison
https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids%5B%5D=520&player_ids%5B%5D=212&player_ids%5B%5D=236&player_ids%5B%5D=205&player_ids%5B%5D=20&season=2018
Can you really expect them to do much better than Cunningham and Pondexter did last year? I'm not sure paying the extra money is worth it.
c) Thus, I'd probably look to younger players - David Nwaba maybe...

[r0drig0lac]

Maybe... but
a) It only takes 1 other gm wanting a "name" veteran to screw something like that up,
b) do we really want them? Consider the following comparison
https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids%5B%5D=520&player_ids%5B%5D=212&player_ids%5B%5D=236&player_ids%5B%5D=205&player_ids%5B%5D=20&season=2018
Can you really expect them to do much better than Cunningham and Pondexter did last year? I'm not sure paying the extra money is worth it.
c) Thus, I'd probably look to younger players - David Nwaba maybe...

yep, no doubt about this

[pad300]

yep, no doubt about this

I take it you didn't look at that comparison, where they did worse per minute than Dante and QPon did last year. And now they are going to be a year farther into physical decline...

[ZeusWillJudge]

What are some realistic free agents spurs could add with the MLE??

Darius Miller.

[look_at_g_shred]

just as sf/pf Aminu/Stanley Johnson, Hezonja, Mk Kinnie, Hood, Bullock, M. Morris, Carroll, Dudley, M. Milliams and Kidd Gilchrist (if they renounce their p.o.), Finney Smith, Lyles, Jerebko, G. Green, D. Green, D. House, T. Young, B. Bogdanovic (unlikely, too good of a season), W. Chandler, J. Holiday, B. Caboclo, N. Mirotic, P. Patterson, Tolliver, Ross, C. Brewer, Oubre (unlikely, see above), Mc Cow, Sefolosha, J. Parker, T. Ariza, J. Green, T. Satoransky, S. Dekker
Who tf is McCow? :lmao

[GusT15]

Who tf is McCow? :lmao

https://www.greenbiz.com/sites/default/files/styles/gbz_article_primary_breakpoints_kalapicture_screen-md_1x/public/images/articles/featured/mcdonalds-grsb1.jpg?itok=CG1vl0QE&timestamp=1415035610

[look_at_g_shred]

I could see the Spurs using the MLE on Sefolosha though. I wouldn't be terribly upset either.

[pad300]

I could see the Spurs using the MLE on Sefolosha though. I wouldn't be terribly upset either.

Wouldn't be to happy myself, he's 35 and I don't see Vince Carter.

[look_at_g_shred]

Wouldn't be to happy myself, he's 35 and I don't see Vince Carter.
Geez I didn't know he was that old lol. I thought he was like 26-29

[RC_Drunkford]

Maybe... but
a) It only takes 1 other gm wanting a "name" veteran to screw something like that up,
b) do we really want them? Consider the following comparison
https://www.boxscoregeeks.com/players/compare?utf8=%E2%9C%93&player_ids%5B%5D=520&player_ids%5B%5D=212&player_ids%5B%5D=236&player_ids%5B%5D=205&player_ids%5B%5D=20&season=2018
Can you really expect them to do much better than Cunningham and Pondexter did last year? I'm not sure paying the extra money is worth it.
c) Thus, I'd probably look to younger players - David Nwaba maybe...

I was asking because if they are really looking at signing Bogdanovic Spurs would need a legit defender at the 4 spot. So a Thad Young, Marcus Morris, Carroll or Ariza would be perfect. The most likely scenario is us only having the room exception available which makes that near to impossible

[tbdog]

I was asking because if they are really looking at signing Bogdanovic Spurs would need a legit defender at the 4 spot. So a Thad Young, Marcus Morris, Carroll or Ariza would be perfect. The most likely scenario is us only having the room exception available which makes that near to impossible

The theory is the Spurs could trade Bertans and Beli for Bogdanovic and sign Bogdanovic between 9.75mil to 16.25mil per year, as per trading rules. Then use the MLE on that 4 spot, which is valued at 9.2mil. And still sign Gay for over 10mil. Obviously, Spurs will have to offer more than just those 2 and will probably have to give up perhaps a highly protected 1st that may result into two 2nds. Or the Raptors pick for Pacers second.

[RC_Drunkford]

The theory is the Spurs could trade Bertans and Beli for Bogdanovic and sign Bogdanovic between 9.75mil to 16.25mil per year, as per trading rules. Then use the MLE on that 4 spot, which is valued at 9.2mil. And still sign Gay for over 10mil. Obviously, Spurs will have to offer more than just those 2 and will probably have to give up perhaps a highly protected 1st that may result into two 2nds. Or the Raptors pick for Pacers second.

yeah I highly doubt a Bogdanovic sign and trade happens. More likely would be the Spurs trade somebody in the draft and then clear Gay's cap hold to sign Bogdanovic

[tbdog]

yeah I highly doubt a Bogdanovic sign and trade happens. More likely would be the Spurs trade somebody in the draft and then clear Gay's cap hold to sign Bogdanovic

Then Spurs essentially trade the MLE and Gay and whoever else they dump to sign Bogdanovic

[RC_Drunkford]

Then Spurs essentially trade the MLE and Gay and whoever else they dump to sign Bogdanovic

yeah. And I expect them to do exactly that. I doubt Indiana is interested in Belinelli/Bertans. Only other option I see is a sign and trade with DeRozan for Bogdanovic and Thad Young

[FireMicoHalili]

Why do people keep bringing up sign and trades like they’re still viable under the CBA? https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/8v1wun/serious_are_there_any_limitations_to_signandtrades/

[Big Empty]

The Spurs shouldnt trade DeRozan unless we are in rebuilding mode. Im all for that but it aint happening. White is gonna come back even better next year, Murray is going to be back, and his defense may have got us over that hump into the 2nd round. Our 2 draft picks next week wont be any help next year. I think we need to sign Ariza if we can instead of playing Belly Nellie. While he can be streaky his D sucks worst than anyone on the team. Ariza would be a better fit. This team isnt going to win a championship but id consider it a success if we could make it to the WCF. With Durant out the west is kind of wide open after the Warriors ofcourse.

[cjw]

The Spurs shouldnt trade DeRozan unless we are in rebuilding mode. Im all for that but it aint happening. White is gonna come back even better next year, Murray is going to be back, and his defense may have got us over that hump into the 2nd round. Our 2 draft picks next week wont be any help next year. I think we need to sign Ariza if we can instead of playing Belly Nellie. While he can be streaky his D sucks worst than anyone on the team. Ariza would be a better fit. This team isnt going to win a championship but id consider it a success if we could make it to the WCF. With Durant out the west is kind of wide open after the Warriors ofcourse.

With Durant almost certainly taking the PO in Golden State now, it’ll further reduce the amount of “max” guys changing teams. One of these teams will strike out and a market will open for high tier players to be dealt. KD’s injury makes a team MORE likely to trade for a Demar because they’ll be more likely to come away with nothing in FA and league more balanced if no Durant playing for GS.

But a trade would almost certainly happen AFTER the draft in that case, so hard to swing Demar for a pick this year. And unlikely the Spurs carry that many rookies.

I don’t love the fit with Demar and the young guards, but if either he or Dejounte extend their game, it will change the geometry significantly. And you can never have too many creators.

[sasaint]

With Durant almost certainly taking the PO in Golden State now, it’ll further reduce the amount of “max” guys changing teams. One of these teams will strike out and a market will open for high tier players to be dealt. KD’s injury makes a team MORE likely to trade for a Demar because they’ll be more likely to come away with nothing in FA and league more balanced if no Durant playing for GS.

But a trade would almost certainly happen AFTER the draft in that case, so hard to swing Demar for a pick this year. And unlikely the Spurs carry that many rookies.

I don’t love the fit with Demar and the young guards, but if either he or Dejounte extend their game, it will change the geometry significantly. And you can never have too many creators.

The biggest problem with Dumbmar is not just the poor fit or his lack of 3-point shooting, but his poor in-game judgment (not to mention his un-Spurs-like brooding and tantrums). Especially in crunch time, he consistently showed awful judgment yet consistently dominated the ball. His judgment isn't likely to improve, nor is his range. Logically, the role of such a player should be reduced. Or ideally, he should be traded. I am keeping my fingers crossed.

[NickiRasgo]

Spurs seems going to draft a combo guard or forward.

[mienhmario]

Why wouldn't Durant go to the Spurs, especially after the horrific injury. ala Rudy Gay

[Big Empty]

Why wouldn't Durant go to the Spurs, especially after the horrific injury. ala Rudy Gay Assuming he got back to 80% of himself in 2020/2021 season DeMar would be gone, LaMarcus would be pushing 36/37 if he is even still here. It doesnt make any sense for KD or the Spurs for him to come here.

[rjv]

i still think KD winds up in NY; they'll pay him big bank and he gets to launch his comeback on the biggest stage with a team that would have potentially added another high draft pick and free agent. but KD will not end up in SA.

[tbdog]

Durant raptured it. Out for a season.

[rjv]

Durant raptured it. Out for a season.

play on words or reference to an eschatological event (the second coming of KD)?

[tbdog]

Lol. Yeah. My bad.

[itzsoweezee]

The biggest problem with Dumbmar is not just the poor fit or his lack of 3-point shooting, but his poor in-game judgment (not to mention his un-Spurs-like brooding and tantrums). Especially in crunch time, he consistently showed awful judgment yet consistently dominated the ball. His judgment isn't likely to improve, nor is his range. Logically, the role of such a player should be reduced. Or ideally, he should be traded. I am keeping my fingers crossed.

Agree 100%. Will the Spurs cut their loses? I'm doubtful

[Degoat]

I’m all for trading DeMar & LA and going for a rebuild with the young players but what is interesting, with Durant’s injury the league has kinda become wide open. IF and it’s a big IF dejounte & Lonnie do become really impactful players this next season plus the spurs add a good MLE player we potentially could be legit contenders again :flag: lol

[exstatic]

With Durant out, if Kawhi even signs a 1 + 1 to stay in Toronto and get to that next salary tier, I wonder if West would consider flipping one of his future first rounders (2020 PHI 2021 MIA (unprotected)) for DD.

[Gamechannel]

With Durant out, if Kawhi even signs a 1 + 1 to stay in Toronto and get to that next salary tier, I wonder if West would consider flipping one of his future first rounders (2020 PHI 2021 MIA (unprotected)) for DD.

No chance Kawhi signs a 1+1 specially with his chronic injury/condition. He will get the full 5 years wherever he decides to go.

[BackHome]

Yeah after KD getting injured he would be stupid to sign a one year deal with his medical condition.

[Dverde]

No chance Kawhi signs a 1+1 specially with his chronic injury/condition. He will get the full 5 years wherever he decides to go.

You make the wrong assumption, Nephew cares about money. If he cared about money, he could have done things differently to secure tons of money. He drives a used SUV and wears his own free apparel. I think he wants to ball and wants to live and raise his family in California.

[cool cat]

You make the wrong assumption, Nephew cares about money. If he cared about money, he could have done things differently to secure tons of money. He drives a used SUV and wears his own free apparel. I think he wants to ball and wants to live and raise his family in California.

Nephew doesn’t make the decisions, Uncle D does and Uncle D doesn’t drive used SUV’s.

[look_at_g_shred]

Ok let’s get this draft and free agency rolling baby!

[cd021]

With Durant out, if Kawhi even signs a 1 + 1 to stay in Toronto and get to that next salary tier, I wonder if West would consider flipping one of his future first rounders (2020 PHI 2021 MIA (unprotected)) for DD.

West is too smart, I suspect, to do that - especially for the 2021 Miami pick, which is considered to be among the best outstanding picks around, but who knows.

If LAC wants to improve next season without sacrificing cap for the 2020 off season then they could take DeRozan into their cap space in exchange for giving us the Philly 2020 pick- which is probably going to be a 25th or worse. They only have $22 million committed in 2020; enough to sign Kawhi, re-sign DDR and maybe Gallinari.

Spurs would have enough to keep Gay's cap hold, sign Bojan Bogdanovic, and sign their two first rounders.

Murray, Mills
White, Forbes, Walker,
Bogdanovic, Beli, 1st rounder
Aldridge, Gay, Bertans, 1st rounder
Poeltl, Metu

[Dverde]

West is too smart, I suspect, to do that - especially for the 2021 Miami pick, which is considered to be among the best outstanding picks around, but who knows.

If LAC wants to improve next season without sacrificing cap for the 2020 off season then they could take DeRozan into their cap space in exchange for giving us the Philly 2020 pick- which is probably going to be a 25th or worse. They only have $22 million committed in 2020; enough to sign Kawhi, re-sign DDR and maybe Gallinari.

Spurs would have enough to keep Gay's cap hold, sign Bojan Bogdanovic, and sign their two first rounders.

Murray, Mills
White, Forbes, Walker,
Bogdanovic, Beli, 1st rounder
Aldridge, Gay, Bertans, 1st rounder
Poeltl, Metu

Spurs don’t have the money for Bojan :lol. He ain’t coming and Patty Mills is staying.

[Blackhaus]

We will have the same roster minus possibly Gay and add a couple washed up trash to fill out the roster.

[cd021]

Spurs don’t have the money for Bojan :lol. He ain’t coming and Patty Mills is staying.

If you read the scenario that you qouted then the Spurs would have about $20 in cap space-including Mills, and I barely mentioned Mills so it's weird that you brought him up.

[sasaint]

We will have the same roster minus possibly Gay and add a couple washed up trash to fill out the roster.

About what I expect, making another inconsequential move at the deadline to move a G and relieve the backcourt logjam.

[JeffDuncan]

About what I expect, making another inconsequential move at the deadline to move a G and relieve the backcourt logjam.

I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs do a "gasol" with Belinelli, trading him or even just releasing him, but still paying him.

It seems inevitable they'll do something about the guard situation.

[cjw]

I wouldn't be surprised if the Spurs do a "gasol" with Belinelli, trading him or even just releasing him, but still paying him.

It seems inevitable they'll do something about the guard situation.

This isn’t football unfortunately where you can pay a portion of salaries in a trade (effectively by converting to a signing bonus). Could either pay $5mm or so like in the Kawhi trade to lessen blow, or have him take less than expected salary in a buyout. Can’t adjust contract dollars in a trade for cap purposes.

[NickiRasgo]

Cousins anyone? If the price is right.

[RD2191]

Cousins anyone? If the price is right.

So he can beat up Sean Elliott?

[NickiRasgo]

So he can beat up Sean Elliott?

He can beat up also to those who are giving a shitty contract to shitty players. :ihit

[dbestpro]

Cousins anyone? If the price is right.

He most likely will go back to New Orleans. He liked it there and now that Davis is gone................

[RD2191]

He can beat up also to those who are giving a shitty contract to shitty players. :ihit

Good point:lol

[Tyrone Jenkins]

Our only hope is in the draft. No $ for any quality FAs because there’s no chance of off loading our bad contracts (Mills) or non-shooting liablities (DD). No chance of any sort of lottery pick that makes a difference because PATFO won’t succumb to sucking bad enough to get there.

Mediocrity or luck in the draft to find the next Kawhi. The plight of just about every small market team in the West not located in California. Even Dallas and Houston can’t break through....

Maybe we can trade up with 16 and 29 to about 12 and get a difference maker...not sure there are any in this draft outside of top 2 picks. But then again, I didn’t think Kawhi would turn out to be 2 x Finals MVP.

[Big Empty]

Pretty good breakdown of the top 50 free agaents. There are a few 6’8-6’9 combo foward options that might help. https://expo.cleveland.com/sports/g66l-2019/06/29cc98ea685172/nba-free-agents-2019-kawhi-leonard-kevin-durant-kyrie-irving-and-the-top-50-list.html

[BWS-1994]

Pretty good breakdown of the top 50 free agaents. There are a few 6’8-6’9 combo foward options that might help. https://expo.cleveland.com/sports/g66l-2019/06/29cc98ea685172/nba-free-agents-2019-kawhi-leonard-kevin-durant-kyrie-irving-and-the-top-50-list.html

:tu

But I guess, none of the SF here would bite for only the MLE.

[gambit1990]

wouldn’t surprise me if patty got moved.

spurs should be desperate to do whatever it takes to make a splash / make the money work.

[RC_Drunkford]

wouldn’t surprise me if patty got moved.

spurs should be desperate to do whatever it takes to make a splash / make the money work.

Moving him is definitely key to doing something in this free agency. We'd have to hope some dumbass GM values him so that we don't have to send out any assets attached

[lmbebo]

Jefferson in NJ had his offer rescinded, now an UFA. I think he would be a good target with our MLE (I don't he would command more than $9 in the open market?)

[SpursRussia]

RHJ is a nice player, good defender, high character guy, but he can’t shoot at all, and even Chip won’t be able to fix it up to a respectable level quickly. Don’t know how he fits in our SL, we already have a lot of bad shooters, no spacing whatsoever

[Dverde]

RHJ is a nice player, good defender, high character guy, but he can’t shoot at all, and even Chip won’t be able to fix it up to a respectable level quickly. Don’t know how he fits in our SL, we already have a lot of bad shooters, no spacing whatsoever

Sold :flag:

[BD24]

I actually wanted us to draft RHJ a few years back. I watched a decent amount of Brooklyn games this year and he had his moments. It is worth nothing that he actually played pretty well in the playoffs when he got PT, that is a very limited sample size though.

With that said his 3%, fg%, and ft% were all career lows this past year which is concerning. I mean he was under 20% from the arc this year. Without a solid jumper he isn't really worth picking up imo, at least not for the MLE. If you can get him cheaper he is probably worth taking a flier on to see if you can fix his shot, but not really worth the mle imo.

[gospursgojas]

RHJ = Dante Cunningham all over again

[RC_Drunkford]

Jefferson will cost a lot less than the MLE. I'd say something in Belinelli's range, around 5 million. And he shouldn't start either, would be good to have him as a bench piece for defense. Lock him up on a cheap long term deal and if you can develop him you have a good value contract. I'd definitely target him

[Degoat]

Does anybody think it’s kinda weird that DeMar has been completely silent for over a week?? I know he’s low key probably bummed his previous team won a chip but you would think he do a congratulations post on Instagram or something :wakeup

[vavvi]

RHJ is a nice player, good defender, high character guy, but he can’t shoot at all, and even Chip won’t be able to fix it up to a respectable level quickly. Don’t know how he fits in our SL, we already have a lot of bad shooters, no spacing whatsoever

But there’s a midget lineup with him that would actually make sense:
Murray-White-Forbes-RHJ-LMA

[EricB]

Does anybody think it’s kinda weird that DeMar has been completely silent for over a week?? I know he’s low key probably bummed his previous team won a chip but you would think he do a congratulations post on Instagram or something :wakeup


Yall forgot he got lied to, like literally to his face. Play he’s busting his ass nun the Kobe workout arena. Busting his ass on threes. That’s all he’s doing.

[Ignazzz]

No shot. No wAy

[Titi Parisien]

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https://cdn.fansided.com/logos/nba/timberwolves.png&c=sc&w=75&h=75
TIMBERWOLVES GET
SG, DEMAR DEROZAN



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SPURS GET
SF, ANDREW WIGGINS
PF, DARIO SARIC
NO. 11 OVERALL PICK
2021 FIRST ROUND PICK


GOSPURSGO!!

[mo7888]

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TIMBERWOLVES GET
SG, DEMAR DEROZAN



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SPURS GET
SF, ANDREW WIGGINS
PF, DARIO SARIC
NO. 11 OVERALL PICK
2021 FIRST ROUND PICK


GOSPURSGO!!

If we see something in Wiggins that they believe that can get out of him that none else has I could see us doing that.... personally I don't see it in Wiggins..

[barakz21]

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https://cdn.fansided.com/logos/nba/timberwolves.png&c=sc&w=75&h=75
TIMBERWOLVES GET
SG, DEMAR DEROZAN



https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https://cdn.fansided.com/logos/nba/spurs.png&c=sc&w=75&h=75
SPURS GET
SF, ANDREW WIGGINS
PF, DARIO SARIC
NO. 11 OVERALL PICK
2021 FIRST ROUND PICK


GOSPURSGO!!

the prospect of getting the 11th pick, a 2021 1st rounder AND Saric makes me salivate about this one, if it were true. Wiggins though, not so much.

[Dverde]

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TIMBERWOLVES GET
SG, DEMAR DEROZAN



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SPURS GET
SF, ANDREW WIGGINS
PF, DARIO SARIC
NO. 11 OVERALL PICK
2021 FIRST ROUND PICK


GOSPURSGO!!

Send Demar back to the snow :lol

[Duncan2177]

https://imagesvc.timeincapp.com/v3/fan/image?url=https://cdn.fansided.com/logos/nba/timberwolves.png&c=sc&w=75&h=75
TIMBERWOLVES GET
SG, DEMAR DEROZAN



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SPURS GET
SF, ANDREW WIGGINS
PF, DARIO SARIC
NO. 11 OVERALL PICK
2021 FIRST ROUND PICK


GOSPURSGO!!
That trade is a no brainer for the Spurs. :lol

[SpursRussia]

That trade is a no brainer for the Spurs. :lol

Would you take it with no picks or a 19 pick going the other way? That's what I think Minny would be looking for

[tbdog]

If you guys are unhappy with DD, imagine what it would be like having Wiggins for years........

[tbdog]

Wiggins is the second worst contract in the NBA. It's horrid. Spurs will be a mess for years if we have him.

[Dverde]

Wiggins is the second worst contract in the NBA. It's horrid. Spurs will be a mess for years if we have him.

1st - Pau Gasol
2nd - Andrew Wiggins
3rd - Patty Mills
4th - https://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/15326405921123.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=300

[Ignazzz]

Wall
wiggy

mills is far away from them

[tbdog]

1st - Pau Gasol
2nd - Andrew Wiggins
3rd - Patty Mills
4th - https://ionenewsone.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/15326405921123.jpg?quality=80&strip=all&w=300

Gasol is on an expiry contract. It's not even in the same ball park as Wiggins and Wall.

[TDMVPDPOY]

barnes opted out 25m remaining
horford opted out 30m remaining

[John B]

Randle opted out of 9mil.

[spurraider21]

Wiggins is the second worst contract in the NBA. It's horrid. Spurs will be a mess for years if we have him.
true. but in a scenario where we get 2 firsts, it mitigates it

[tbdog]

true. but in a scenario where we get 2 firsts, it mitigates it

There is an unhealthy obsession here that even as little as one high pick is worth years of rebuild.

[spurraider21]

There is an unhealthy obsession here that even as little as one high pick is worth years of rebuild.
in that deal we get #11 and their first next year

[TDMVPDPOY]

this new max or supermax, will make it hard for teams trade them sort of players

[lmbebo]

I'd like the Spurs to go after RHJ if we strike out with Bogdan (spelling?)

https://www.netsdaily.com/2019/6/17/18682433/nets-decline-option-on-rondae-hollis-jefferson-making-him-an-unrestricted-free-agent

[cjw]

in that deal we get #11 and their first next year

Not worth it, as that’ll be a borderline lottery pick next year even with Saric included. You need to vastly outperform average with those two picks to be taking on the burden of a below replacement level player (which Wiggins has proven to be) who is eating up 25-30% of your salary cap for the next three years.

Two years remaining and we can talk. But three years? No way.

[Marcus Bryant]

:tu

[Dverde]

Looks like Al Horford is leaving Boston. My guess is Denver.

[picnroll]

Looks like Al Horford is leaving Boston. My guess is Denver.

Im guessing Clippers with kwitter.

[BackHome]

Long term contract with Celtics

[tbdog]

in that deal we get #11 and their first next year

It's still straight out awful. Spurs give up the best player by far, get back the worst contract, by far, and get rewarded with 11th pick and another the following season?

[spurraider21]

It's still straight out awful. Spurs give up the best player by far, get back the worst contract, by far, and get rewarded with 11th pick and another the following season?
yes. treadmill teams that aren't good enough to compete are well served eating a couple of years of horrid contracts in exchange for assets

[EricB]

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NO. 11 OVERALL PICK
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Burn this and forget you ever posted it...

[r0drig0lac]

Jake Fischer
✔ JakeLFischer
Oklahoma City has increased its efforts this afternoon to shed salary along with the No. 21 pick en route to dodging luxury tax, league sources say. Steven Adams, Andre Roberson, Dennis Schroeder all very available at the moment.

544
4:41 PM - Jun 19, 2019

[YoungbuckMurray]

Jake Fischer
✔ Jake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=36033)LFischer
Oklahoma City has increased its efforts this afternoon to shed salary along with the No. 21 pick en route to dodging luxury tax, league sources say. Steven Adams, Andre Roberson, Dennis Schroeder all very available at the moment.

544
4:41 PM - Jun 19, 2019

Would have interest in Adams or Robertson. I haven’t looked at there salaries tho

[Spurs fever]

Anyone hear the Spurs are interested in Steven Adams? Edit. Never mind it's being discussed in another thread.

[kxs783kms]

I would love for us to grab BOL BOL. Hopefully he's there when we pick!

[rjv]

I would love for us to grab BOL BOL. Hopefully he's there when we pick!

latest rumors have him getting drafted by the pacers at 18.

[rjv]

so some site called hiptoro is writing this: (can't say it was a typo. it was also on the headline.)

Horoford to the Lakers

But the Lakers apparently, wish to use their free cap space to land a free agent. And they do have lofty goals- targets such as Kawhi Leonard, Kemba Walker, Kyrie Irving, and Jimmy Butler. If they fall through, they may turn to Horoford.

[tbdog]

They all falling through because they all want max in which Lakers can't give.

[Drewlius]

so some site called hiptoro is writing this: (can't say it was a typo. it was also on the headline.)

Horoford to the Lakers

But the Lakers apparently, wish to use their free cap space to land a free agent. And they do have lofty goals- targets such as Kawhi Leonard, Kemba Walker, Kyrie Irving, and Jimmy Butler. If they fall through, they may turn to Horoford.



Haha, what a sick take, basically just name all of the top FAs(Minus Klay/Kev) - Hiptoro is really going out on a limb with this prediction.

[mo7888]

NOLA now has $31M in cap space

Minny trades 11 and saric to phx for 6

[kxs783kms]

latest rumors have him getting drafted by the pacers at 18.

That's a bummer. We need a good big who can protect the rim, rebound and space the floor on the other end. Something tells me he's going to be a star.

[Fusternino]

Suns GM ought to be fired.

[Dejounte]

PG: Dejounte/ White/ Mills
SG: DeMar/ Forbes/ Lonnie/ Quinndary
SF: Gay/ Johnson/ Beli/ Moore
PF: Aldridge/ Samanic/ Bertans
C: Poetl/ Eubanks/ Metu

Something's got to give....way too many guards.

[RD2191]

PG: Dejounte/ White/ Mills
SG: DeMar/ Forbes/ Lonnie/ Quinndary
SF: Gay/ Johnson/ Beli/ Moore
PF: Aldridge/ Samanic/ Bertans
C: Poetl/ Eubanks/ Metu

Something's got to give....way too many guards.

DJ ain't starting over White. Gtfo.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

PG: Dejounte/ White/ Mills
SG: DeMar/ Forbes/ Lonnie/ Quinndary
SF: Gay/ Johnson/ Beli/ Moore
PF: Aldridge/ Samanic/ Bertans
C: Poetl/ Eubanks/ Metu

Something's got to give....way too many guards.

More like -

PG: White/ Mills
SG: Dejounte/ Forbes/ Lonnie
SF: DeRozan/ Gay/ Johnson/ Beli
PF: Aldridge/ Samanic/ Bertans
C: Poetl/ Metu / Aldridge

[tbdog]

For those who wanted to know Jonathan Simmons value. He was traded to the wizards with a second round pick. Wizards gave up cash only.

[Mugen]

Packaging Bertans & Beli for a combo forward before free agency would be ideal. Some targets off the top of my head:

Charlotte: Marvin Williams or MGK
Miami: James Johsnon

Contracts work and both teams could use additional shooting....

Then take the MLE and split it up to bring Milutinov over and the rest on a combo guard like CoJo......

Not a sexy offseason but that's about the most realistic ceiling I can see for the summer ......

Dejounte/Fatty/CoJo
DWhite/Forbes
Derozan/Lonnie/Keldon
Rudy Gay/Marvin Williams/Luka
LMA/Poetl/Milutinov

[Mugen]

There's a gigantic hole on the roster for a wing defender with size, like it's obvious to even the most suck-tastic of the PATFO suckers. So I definitely expect the Spurs will completely not address that via trade or free agency this summer.

[jjktkk]

Has anyone seen any college free agent signing lists?

[Drom John]

Has anyone seen any college free agent signing lists?

Basketball Wiretap (https://basketball.realgm.com/news/wiretap/tags/16/NBA-Signing-Rumor)

[pad300]

The Current State of the Roster

San Antonio Spurs
White/Forbes/Mills
Murray/Walker/Belinelli
Derozan/Keldon Johnson
Samanic/Bertans/Metu
Aldridge/Poetl

2-Way Contracts
Eubanks, Moore

URFA:
Gay - expected to be back at PF (backing up SF)
Pondexter - not expected back IMO
Cunningham - not expected back IMO

I'm guessing Weatherspoon has made a promise to take a 2-way contract, so there will be activity on that front (a team can only have two such contracts). My feeling is that they drop/move Eubanks (I think it was significant they brought in Motiejunas rather than upgrade him to a vet min for the playoffs last year).

I Expect some activity on the trade front: too many guards (small 2's in particular), with the intent of making 1 or more roster spots. Potential trade bait (to my mind) : Belinelli, Bertans, Forbes, Mills, Eubanks (only worth $150K in salary). Other assets that might be used as grease : Milutinov, future picks.
I expect us to bring in a true big (not a perimeter 4), and someone who can fake being a SF...
Some folks think Milutinov is that big, but I can see significant value in the vet min portion of the market (eg. Joakim Noah or Boban). PATFO might not see the value for the money to bring Milutinov over.
The SF is a big who knows, but as I've mentioned before, an outside the box candidate is Tomas Satoransky.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Basketball Wiretap (https://basketball.realgm.com/news/wiretap/tags/16/NBA-Signing-Rumor)

Great drop Drom John

I was gonna ask about this and I seen somebody did and hou dropped it. Yovel Zoosman didn't get picked up and neither has Louis King so far. I know Zoosman will most likely get work in Europe but King might be worth grabbing

[mo7888]

On the Free Agent front I've been reading this morning that the Nets may not want Kyrie if Durant doesn't come too. I've also read that ainge may use his cap space to acquire assets.

I'm not sure where kyrie ends up if he cant go to the nets but we were on his short list when he wanted out of Cleveland. I wonder if ainge would be interested in DDR plus white or DJ for Kyrie on a S&T?

[4lifecowboy]

More like -

PG: White/ Mills
SG: Dejounte/ Forbes/ Lonnie
SF: DeRozan/ Gay/ Johnson/ Beli
PF: Aldridge/ Samanic/ Bertans
C: Poetl/ Metu / Aldridge

Murray for surly starting over White, get use to that. White may start the beginning of the season at the 2, but i fully expect Walker to take hold of that job before season ends.

[TD 21]

Packaging Bertans & Beli for a combo forward before free agency would be ideal. Some targets off the top of my head:

Charlotte: Marvin Williams or MGK
Miami: James Johsnon

Contracts work and both teams could use additional shooting....

Then take the MLE and split it up to bring Milutinov over and the rest on a combo guard like CoJo......

Not a sexy offseason but that's about the most realistic ceiling I can see for the summer ......

Dejounte/Fatty/CoJo
DWhite/Forbes
Derozan/Lonnie/Keldon
Rudy Gay/Marvin Williams/Luka
LMA/Poetl/Milutinov

Williams can't defend small forwards anymore, Kidd-Gilchrist's 3 is virtually non existent and Johnson isn't Spurs material and his 3 is too shaky to play alongside the starters. The same goes for Crowder.

If they don't swing a trade (and we know how adverse they are to doing so unless forced), Deng, Stanley Johnson and Lance Thomas, are bargain bin options I could see them looking into.

Whether Milutinov or otherwise, once accounting for a third center, if they don't swing a trade involving the players you mentioned and/or Forbes, they could eat Metu's contract to bring in said bargain basket big wing.

[Trueblood]

Williams can't defend small forwards anymore, Kidd-Gilchrist's 3 is virtually non existent and Johnson isn't Spurs material and his 3 is too shaky to play alongside the starters. The same goes for Crowder.

If they don't swing a trade (and we know how adverse they are to doing so unless forced), Deng, Stanley Johnson and Lance Thomas, are bargain bin options I could see them looking into.

Whether Milutinov or otherwise, once accounting for a third center, if they don't swing a trade involving the players you mentioned and/or Forbes, they could eat Metu's contract to bring in said bargain basket big wing.

IIRC MKG is a FA. If he would come on the cheap and work on his stroke I could see him being a good addition

[Blackhaus]

IIRC MKG is a FA. If he would come on the cheap and work on his stroke I could see him being a good addition

that jump,shot is beyond broken, I don’t even think chip can fixed that mess

[JuneJive]

MKG opted into his final year.

[Killakobe81]

I know he has been a mild disappointment and his contract sucks... But if anyone could fix him it would be Chip and Pop would yall consider Wiggins if you could dump patty? He has some young Rudy Gay or even homeless (noot poor) man's Kawhi traits... As a two way player... Not as Smooth as Gay but even Kawhi who is way better than both wasn't as smooth as Prime Rudy.

[Killakobe81]

My bad he was discussed previously... I see mostly hell no...

[Dejounte]

What about Nikola Mirotic? Beef up our PF position a bit more, move Samanic down...

PG: Murray/ White
SG: DeMar/ Lonnie
SF: Gay/ Samanic/ Johnson
PF: Aldridge/ Mirotic/ Bertans
C: Poetl/ Eubanks/ Metu

[Duncan87]

Darius Morris committed to playing for Summer league Spurs

[Duncan87]

(https://mobile.twitter.com/JShawNBA)
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Free agent guard Darius Morris has committed to summer league with the San Antonio Spurs, source tells @HoopsRumors (https://mobile.twitter.com/HoopsRumors)
. Morris has previously held stints with the Lakers, Sixers, Clippers, Grizzlies and Nets in his career.

[Scottstarbuck785]

In 47 games, Bamba averaged 6.2 points, 5.0 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in 16.3 minutes

Orlandos log jam at the post and need for shooting and guards
Our log jam at guards and need for a defensive rebounding post
How about
Bertans and. Forbes
For
Bamba and frazier Jr
Saves 3-4 mil on our books
Gives magic another guard and SF/PF combo both can shoot
Frazier jr is 6 6-7 combo wing can back up SF and SG
Bamba can play PF and C
Not sure on how high Orlando is on either player with bamba coming of injury and 5 bigs ahead of him in the rotation.

Were resigning gay and incoming rooks

Not ever saying it would go down or those two are enough to get bamba but line up would look like

DJ/White/mills
Ddr/walker/frazier
Gay/KJ
LA/samanic/Eubanks
JP/B amba/Metu

Doubt it happens or ever could happen just got to thinking about 2 team that fit each others needs and saleries worked anyway.
GO SPURS GO

[JuneJive]

Maybe Bullock could be had.

He's more valuable to the Lakers, but if they decide to get that 3rd star, the Spurs could come in early and sway him away.

[DesignatedT]

Go offer Thad Young the full MLE and DeMarre Carroll the lower exception. Move Beli and Bertans

White Mills
Murray Forbes Walker
DeRozan Carroll Johnson
Young Gay Samanic
Aldridge Poeltl Eubanks

[Dverde]

Maybe Bullock could be had.

He's more valuable to the Lakers, but if they decide to get that 3rd star, the Spurs could come in early and sway him away.

He is redundant with DDR and LW IV on the same roster. Spurs need SF/PF type.

[RC_Drunkford]

In 47 games, Bamba averaged 6.2 points, 5.0 rebounds and 1.4 blocks in 16.3 minutes

Orlandos log jam at the post and need for shooting and guards
Our log jam at guards and need for a defensive rebounding post
How about
Bertans and. Forbes
For
Bamba and frazier Jr
Saves 3-4 mil on our books
Gives magic another guard and SF/PF combo both can shoot
Frazier jr is 6 6-7 combo wing can back up SF and SG
Bamba can play PF and C
Not sure on how high Orlando is on either player with bamba coming of injury and 5 bigs ahead of him in the rotation.

Were resigning gay and incoming rooks

Not ever saying it would go down or those two are enough to get bamba but line up would look like

DJ/White/mills
Ddr/walker/frazier
Gay/KJ
LA/samanic/Eubanks
JP/B amba/Metu

Doubt it happens or ever could happen just got to thinking about 2 team that fit each others needs and saleries worked anyway.
GO SPURS GO

Getting Mo Bamba would be a steal, but he was the #6 pick in the draft. I don't think Magic give him up for Forbes and Bertans who are both on expiring deals

[RC_Drunkford]

Go offer Thad Young the full MLE and DeMarre Carroll the lower exception. Move Beli and Bertans

White Mills
Murray Forbes Walker
DeRozan Carroll Johnson
Young Gay Samanic
Aldridge Poeltl Eubanks

besides Marcus Morris, those are the 2 guys I'm looking at as well. I'm not sure if Carrol or Young could be had for that money, they might be able to get a little more on the market. Would be great additions though. Especially Young since he's left handed and does the dirty work, he's the perfect fit next to LaMarcus. Just has to be a little bit better at shooting the 3

[Scottstarbuck785]

I agree 100% just looking at the needs and log jams with certain teams. Sometimes needs out number a lot of other factors like draft selection. I never thought it would happen. Yes it would be a huge steal for sure.

[Big P]

What about Jabari Parker...the Wiz declined his option, making him unrestricted, but they are open to resigning him...he's probably gonna make more than the MLE, but fit wise, would he be a good pickup for the MLE?

[barakz21]

Getting Mo Bamba would be a steal, but he was the #6 pick in the draft. I don't think Magic give him up for Forbes and Bertans who are both on expiring deals

Only way spurs get him is if the magic see that he’s a lost cause and decide to cut their losses immediately, which I don’t think is gonna happen considering he only played 42 games for his rookie year

[lmbebo]

What about Jabari Parker...the Wiz declined his option, making him unrestricted, but they are open to resigning him...he's probably gonna make more than the MLE, but fit wise, would he be a good pickup for the MLE?

Believe there was an article stating he wants at least $15 million. Not many teams willing to offer that, but belief that he wants to stay in Washington and they'd like to have him back

[Killakobe81]

Believe there was an article stating he wants at least $15 million. Not many teams willing to offer that, but belief that he wants to stay in Washington and they'd like to have him back

Wouldn't he be redundant if you are, retaining Rudy Gay?! He is a good scorer but trash on defense...

[kobyz]

spurs lack C depth and Pau Gasol is a free agent, would you sign him for the minimum?

[picnroll]

spurs lack C depth and Pau Gasol is a free agent, would you sign him for the minimum?
Nah. He should sign with the Lakers. They’ll be desperate for washed up players to fill out their roster.

[JeffDuncan]

spurs lack C depth and Pau Gasol is a free agent, would you sign him for the minimum?

I'd rather pay him the minimum. It'd save us over $2 million.

[r0drig0lac]

spurs lack C depth and Pau Gasol is a free agent, would you sign him for the minimum?

haha

[Strategic]

spurs lack C depth and Pau Gasol is a free agent, would you sign him for the minimum?
Funny. I wouldn’t even take his little brother.

[Fusternino]

We should look into signing McGee, tbh.

[Dverde]

How about some thread love for Taj Gibson. He would be a good vet to target.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Funny. I wouldn’t even take his little brother.


Fuck Pau. But the Raps don't ring if they didn't make that deal for Marc. He made a bunch of timely 3's, but mostly he really helped them dominate the paint on D. That was the most under-appreciated deal of this season.

[kobyz]

i want to suggest signing Will Clyburn, two way player out of euroleague...

[gambit1990]

i prefer mcgee over taj. i liked taj when he was a bull, really haven’t seen him play much since then.

[XDT76]

Fuck Pau. But the Raps don't ring if they didn't make that deal for Marc. He made a bunch of timely 3's, but mostly he really helped them dominate the paint on D. That was the most under-appreciated deal of this season.

Marc's deal was underappreciated due to the Kawhi hype. Marc was Raptor's top 5 in all categories in the playoff including top in blks. Without Marc the Raptors don't ring.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Marc's deal was underappreciated due to the Kawhi hype. Marc was Raptor's top 5 in all categories in the playoff including top in blks. Without Marc the Raptors don't ring.

Dead on. :tu

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Marc's deal was underappreciated due to the Kawhi hype. Marc was Raptor's top 5 in all categories in the playoff including top in blks. Without Marc the Raptors don't ring.

True.

Ujiri did a great job getting players to help them win

[Strategic]

Still yet, there’s no place for little brother on the Spurs roster. Unless you think he deserves a loyalty contact ala Pau.

[duncan2150]

With the report of the spurs not signing Mulitnov, i hope we could have som threads with bigs : Ed Davis, Noah Vonley, Richaun Holmes, Robin Lopez....

[eDizzle20]

Go for Boogie with the full MLE and hope Pop can change his attitude. A core of Murray, White, DeRozan, LMA, and Boogie is not bad on paper. Take advantage of up for grabs Western Conference.

[Dejounte]

We dont need another strict center.

[look_at_g_shred]

Any interest in Looney/Chandler/Nerlens Noel

[gambit1990]

looney is solid.

[DAF86]

What about JaMychal Green? A 6'9" 40% 3pt shooter.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I’ve been wondering if the Spurs will consider pursuing Ariza.

[ceperez]

Thomas Robinson... https://www.sbnation.com/nba-draft/2012/6/8/3072812/nba-draft-2012-combine-measurements-thomas-robinson

Kansas forward Thomas Robinson measured 6-foot-8 3/4 in shoes with a huge 7-3 wingspan. Any concerns teams had about him being undersized for the position will start to melt away after those numbers.

[JeffDuncan]

looney is solid.

It's only that he has no 3pt shot. 0.1 attempts, 0.0 makes.

[JeffDuncan]

Thomas Robinson... https://www.sbnation.com/nba-draft/2012/6/8/3072812/nba-draft-2012-combine-measurements-thomas-robinson

Kansas forward Thomas Robinson measured 6-foot-8 3/4 in shoes with a huge 7-3 wingspan. Any concerns teams had about him being undersized for the position will start to melt away after those numbers.

But 0.0 three-point shot. Whether he could learn it, dunno.

[JeffDuncan]

I’ve been wondering if the Spurs will consider pursuing Ariza.

Ariza will be 34 on June 30. I'd have to think he'll be looking for a multi-year deal and his last substantial contract. He's coming off a contract for 15 mil.

[cutewizard]

Thomas Robinson... https://www.sbnation.com/nba-draft/2012/6/8/3072812/nba-draft-2012-combine-measurements-thomas-robinson

Kansas forward Thomas Robinson measured 6-foot-8 3/4 in shoes with a huge 7-3 wingspan. Any concerns teams had about him being undersized for the position will start to melt away after those numbers.


The rebounder??

[rjv]

wizards are really such a terrible organization.

[sasaint]

What about JaMychal Green? A 6'9" 40% 3pt shooter.

Like many on ST, I wanted to keep him when he was in the Spurs’ camp in, what ‘14? I don’t hate the idea now, but we would still need somebody who can guard SFs. JaMychal seems more like Rudy.

[sasaint]

wizards are really such a terrible organization.


With the Laker trade, the Wiz will have to jettison some bodies. Anybody realistically of interest?

[Gordy58]

Luke kornet anyone? Big upgrade over Eubanks and metu

[Blackhaus]

Welcome back George Hill!

[sasaint]

Welcome back George Hill!
I like Hill. Plus he could restore some culture and leadership. Replace Dumbmar with Hill and move 50Mills.

[cd021]

Go for Boogie with the full MLE and hope Pop can change his attitude. A core of Murray, White, DeRozan, LMA, and Boogie is not bad on paper. Take advantage of up for grabs Western Conference.

He looked really bad in the Finals, not convinced that he is anywhere close to what he was. Let the Knicks sign him away from GSW tbh.

[sasaint]

He looked really bad in the Finals, not convinced that he is anywhere close to what he was. Let the Knicks sign him away from GSW tbh.

Healthy or not, Boogie was never gonna e a Spur. Now - no way would they sign him.

[ducks]

Ramona Shelburne rAmonashelburne
·
7m
The Knicks and owner Jim Dolan were not prepared to offer Kevin Durant a full max contract due to concerns over his recovery from the Achilles injury, league sources tell me and
@wojespn
. Knicks officials are in Los Angeles tonight, meeting with free agents such as Julius Randle

[NickiRasgo]

Props to Nets. From being hostaged by the Celtics to being a legitimate contender. Officialy took over the Knicks by a mile considering the Knicks already have the cap space to sign a big named free agent.

[NickiRasgo]

With Kevin Durant heading to the Nets then now Jimmy Butler to the Heat, it seems Kawhi Leonard to the Lakers is highly likely that it will happen.

[ducks]

Lots of commitments early

[ceperez]

What about a trade DeRozan for Iguoudala and Kyle Anderson?

[lmbebo]

What about a trade DeRozan for Iguoudala and Kyle Anderson? uhhhh


no

Trade Kwahi for DDR, let Kyle go to Memphis. Only to turn Kwahi into Kyle ....

[slick'81]

What about a trade DeRozan for Iguoudala and Kyle Anderson?


Iggys working a buyout and heading to lakers

[gambit1990]

past couple years it looks like iggy’s body is about to crumble :lol

but even then he’s come up big for GS at times. i could see him going to LA too.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Kyle Anderson sucks ass.

[spurraider21]

What about a trade DeRozan for Iguoudala and Kyle Anderson?
#ceperez

[slick'81]

Kyle Anderson sucks ass.

Glad he wasnt resigned at that price

[ZeusWillJudge]

I like Hill. Plus he could restore some culture and leadership. Replace Dumbmar with Hill and move 50Mills.

You had me at "move 50Mills".


How about Mills and Belli to Charlotte for Marvin Williams? Gain a big man who can shoot 3's, and give them two 3P shooters. We get rid of Mills and Belli once and for all, and free up a roster spot.

[sasaint]

You had me at "move 50Mills".


How about Mills and Belli to Charlotte for Marvin Williams? Gain a big man who can shoot 3's, and give them two 3P shooters. We get rid of Mills and Belli once and for all, and free up a roster spot.

We can only wish! I have liked Marvin for several years. Solid pro at a position of dire need. The move you suggest would move the needle more than many suspect, concentrating backcourt minutes in the young guns, and avoiding having to play guys out of position. :tu

[JeffDuncan]

You had me at "move 50Mills".


How about Mills and Belli to Charlotte for Marvin Williams? Gain a big man who can shoot 3's, and give them two 3P shooters. We get rid of Mills and Belli once and for all, and free up a roster spot.

Marvin Williams, good player, right position(s), scheduled to get $15 million, I would do it. You tease, you.

[BackHome]

Was at a bar and had to watch a little of the Flakers game against Golden State one player who caught my eye was Cacok The guy was great on defense and reminded me of Green with GS I would not mind seeing if we could snatch him if we can't get a legit Vet Big.

oh forget it just found out he is only 6’7

[slick'81]

Was at a bar and had to watch a little of the Flakers game against Golden State one player who caught my eye was Cacok The guy was great on defense and reminded me of Green with GS I would not mind seeing if we could snatch him if we can't get a legit Vet Big.

oh forget it just found out he is only 6’7


Devontae swing

[Blackhaus]

Thybulle looking good in summer league. I like luka but woulda been good with Thybulle, he will be a perfect 3 and d player. His defense is nice

[ZeusWillJudge]

I had three guys I expected to go undrafted that I really wanted to see on the Spurs' SL team. One was Q Weatherspoon, and I'm glad they got him. One was Terence Davis, and the Raptors gave him a contract today. The third was Max Strus, who has been doing well on the Celtics SL team. (I talked about him all season - I think he could have been a great Forbes' replacement, if he costs too much.)

I'll go ahead and get a head start on next year (or the one after). Weatherspoon has a little brother named Nick who plays for Miss. State, and who I think could turn out to be a better player than Quinn. He got suspended "indefinitely" for violating team rules this season. No idea what he did, but he's back practicing with the team and is supposed to be playing next season. Remember Nick Weatherspoon next year.

[mo7888]

I had three guys I expected to go undrafted that I really wanted to see on the Spurs' SL team. One was Q Weatherspoon, and I'm glad they got him. One was Terence Davis, and the Raptors gave him a contract today. The third was Max Strus, who has been doing well on the Celtics SL team. (I talked about him all season - I think he could have been a great Forbes' replacement, if he costs too much.)

I'll go ahead and get a head start on next year (or the one after). Weatherspoon has a little brother named Nick who plays for Miss. State, and who I think could turn out to be a better player than Quinn. He got suspended "indefinitely" for violating team rules this season. No idea what he did, but he's back practicing with the team and is supposed to be playing next season. Remember Nick Weatherspoon next year.

Nick is a pretty high ceiling guy but, he really needs to get over himself. I like him as a player but if he cant learn to accept authority (coaching) hes not going far.

[ZeusWillJudge]

I don't know if anybody has noticed, but Tacko Fall hasn't exactly dominated SL. People who expectd him to be Godzilla because he's so tall are getting a good look at why he went undrafted.