Official 2019 NBA Draft Thread

[Russ]

That sounds foolish. If he's drafted, some team will be able to help with his medical costs and give him access to world-class rehab and training facilities. I don't see any reason why he should believe he would recover better on his own given his reinjury.

The player's bargaining power is gone then. He can't play the teams off each other if he's drafted. That dwarfs all those other considerations.

[NASpurs]

Haven't kept up for the past hour or so. Is DeRozan still on the team?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Worst draft in years when the team really needed a homerun tonight(considering how terrible they are in free agency). Three tries and they struck out on every one of em.



No, what the Spurs needed was to get value out of these picks and not have any fucking disasters. They did exactly that.

[Prime BEEF]

Horrible draft. Not surprising. But still sucks. The front office can officially kill off the fan base and close up shop if they don’t make any moves in the off-season. Not much to root for or be excited about. White and Murray that’s about it.

[Chinook]

He (or any player) will sign with a team, but the one they want.

within 5 minutes of the draft being over there will be announcements of a bunch of players who have already agreed to be on a summer league team at the minimum

I remember guys like Payton II and Cam Oliver getting Rockets deals a couple of minutes after the draft was over

But those guys were healthy. Why would a team give a guy a million bucks this year to rehab when that money could go to someone who'd be able to fill in?

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it's not a smart move. Porter has no reason to be calling shots like that. The "best situation" for him isn't if he's going to get playing time or whatever. It's going to be a team that wants him and is willing to put in the time and effort to helping him heal, rehab and train. That's much more likely to be a team that drafts him rather than a team that gives him a min deal for the summer league.

[NASpurs]

How many fucking guards can one team have? Did the NBA turn into the 6'4" and under league and didn't notify me?

[Robz4000]

Haven't kept up for the past hour or so. Is DeRozan still on the team?

:depressed

[K...]

I like spursfans who are like "They didn't pick my pick, so the pick is garbage".

[Gandalf]

I think there was a meltdown when the Spurs picked George Hill. Also, at least they didn't 'trade' their picks for a 'veteran' player, some of these guys might still turn in to something. At least wait until summer league (and probably beyond that) before declaring it a failure.

[Chinook]

The player's bargaining power is gone then. He can't play the teams off each other if he's drafted. That dwarfs all those other considerations.

So? Why doesn't every player just decide not to be drafted then? Porter has nothing to offer a team this upcoming season, and he may not even be 100 percent until the year after that. It's hard to imagine he has a lot of negotiating power as it is.

[K...]

raptor time....come on uriji, one more humiliation

[Big P]

Not that it would have mattered, but I cannot believe that the fo could not get Torontos second round pick as well....people need to stop making excuses for pop and rc...they are done, stick a fork in em.

[K...]

Not that it would have mattered, but I cannot believe that the fo could not get Torontos second round pick as well....people need to stop making excuses for pop and rc...they are done, stick a fork in em.

who were your picks?

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1141928117554077698

[objective]

But those guys were healthy. Why would a team give a guy a million bucks this year to rehab when that money could go to someone who'd be able to fill in?

I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying it's not a smart move. Porter has no reason to be calling shots like that. The "best situation" for him isn't if he's going to get playing time or whatever. It's going to be a team that wants him and is willing to put in the time and effort to helping him heal, rehab and train. That's much more likely to be a team that drafts him rather than a team that gives him a min deal for the summer league.

re: Porter calling the shots, he comes from a family of hardcore vegans and he reportedly ignored his orders in rehab by doing work he wasn't cleared for resulting in the second tear. Maybe he's just one of those guys that moves to the beat of his own drum, even if it's offbeat

Not saying him asking to not be drafted was the case, just offering it as a possibility.

And even if he was drafted in the second round, who's to say that team was going to give him a million dollars as it is? Second rounders now are occasionally relegated to taking g-league money anyway. How many Spurs second round picks have gotten fully guaranteed money in year 1? I don't even know if Metu was fully guaranteed. Blossomgame made g-league money, what was that, like 28k?

He might have a team whose trainers or staff he liked that wouldn't commit to drafting him but told him they'd take him on as a UFA, who knows?

[NASpurs]

In hindsight, it's probably a good thing we didn't tank. I have doubts the selection would had changed.

[slick'81]

Welp on to free agency

[Marcus Bryant]

This forum has flipped from putting every Spurs pick in the hall of fame to mindless bitching ala NY fan style.

[slick'81]

In hindsight, it's probably a good thing we didn't tank. I have doubts the selection would had changed.

wonder who spurs woulda chosen between luka and goga

[Thomas82]

They could have afforded an injury stash. I'm not sure if I've ever been so disappointed in a draft by the Spurs. Even in 2015 when I was apoplectic about Miluntinov, at least there was Cady. The players may well be decent or even good, but considering what they could have had, I just wish they had gone in different directions. Samanic might start right away, but I don't see either of the latter two picks getting significant minutes any time soon.

Saving grace is that they should be able to sign a decent forward with the MLE. But will they? Don't know.

[NASpurs]

Welp on to free agency

Yeah it'll be fun to live through other teams once again during free agency.

As far as the Spurs are concerned, it'll be a Rudy Gay loyalty contract at 12:01 and sign some veteran trash players to take away minutes from the young guys and fill out the roster.

[Nathan89]

Nobody that wanted Bol Bol at 19 should be voicing any complaints tbh

[Chinook]

re: Porter calling the shots, he comes from a family of hardcore vegans and he reportedly ignored his orders in rehab by doing work he wasn't cleared for resulting in the second tear. Maybe he's just one of those guys that moves to the beat of his own drum, even if it's offbeat

Not saying him asking to not be drafted was the case, just offering it as a possibility.

And even if he was drafted in the second round, who's to say that team was going to give him a million dollars as it is? Second rounders now are occasionally relegated to taking g-league money anyway. How many Spurs second round picks have gotten fully guaranteed money in year 1? I don't even know if Metu was fully guaranteed. Blossomgame made g-league money, what was that, like 28k?

He might have a team whose trainers or staff he liked that wouldn't commit to drafting him but told him they'd take him on as a UFA, who knows?

Metu was guaranteed last year and is guaranteed this year. Besides him, I think Bertans and Blair are the only such second-rounders over the past 11 drafts. Blossomgame was offered a min deal but passed it up as per his agreement with PATFO. Weatherspoon may well do something similar. But that's not the point. Since everyone knows Porter won't be able to play this year, he wasn't going to get cut. Any team drafting him would know his situation and should be ready to wait. I know we've been speaking in the hypothetical, so I'll offer slightly different but definitely related scenario: Teams were interested in drafting him in the second round, but he wasn't willing to be stashed in the d-league for a year. He is more inclined to take on his own rehab (again) and then pick his team next year when he's healthy.

If he does think this, I think it's foolish for the reasons I said. I don't see a team wanting him for anything less than a three-year deal with only that first year guaranteed. Maybe someone like the Mavs are willing to give him a four-year deal with two guaranteed. They're weird like that.

[benefactor]

This forum has flipped from putting every Spurs pick in the hall of fame to mindless bitching ala NY fan style.
They've been cutting themselves since Uncle Dennis carried KL to Toronto and there's no sign of it slowing down. Scorned lover syndrome tbh

[Chinook]

https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/1141928117554077698

I like the pick-up. Dude was a projected first-rounder toward the beginning of last season. Really don't expect SA to fill in their two-way deals yet, but they did sign Eubanks early, so anything is possible.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Personally, I think the Spurs were looking to trade up to get Cam Johnson. He was the best shooter in the draft, and has legit SF size. When he got taken at 11, it was straight to Plan B. And I think this draft says that Milutinov is coming over.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I know a scout for the Sixers. They wanted Luka at 20, he wouldn't have made it to us at 29. So it's one data point but it's clear he wouldn't have fallen. Johnson's set to be a Danny Green replacement for us if Chip can improve his shot.

Unfortunately, we threw away pick 49, watched him in SEC play against A&M and he'll never make it out of Austin unless the Spurs just need to kill some regular season minutes.

As an aside, it's disgusting to me to watch Golden State buy a pick year after year in the second round. Spurs need to adjust to the new way of doing things that elite teams like GS are doing in the draft and do the same. Yeah I know we're small market but damnit budget that 2.5 million and go get yourself a guy that slips to the second, those picks can be bought.

[objective]

Metu was guaranteed last year and is guaranteed this year. Besides him, I think Bertans and Blair are the only such second-rounders over the past 11 drafts. Blossomgame was offered a min deal but passed it up as per his agreement with PATFO. Weatherspoon may well do something similar. But that's not the point. Since everyone knows Porter won't be able to play this year, he wasn't going to get cut. Any team drafting him would know his situation and should be ready to wait. I know we've been speaking in the hypothetical, so I'll offer slightly different but definitely related scenario: Teams were interested in drafting him in the second round, but he wasn't willing to be stashed in the d-league for a year. He is more inclined to take on his own rehab (again) and then pick his team next year when he's healthy.

If he does think this, I think it's foolish for the reasons I said. I don't see a team wanting him for anything less than a three-year deal with only that first year guaranteed. Maybe someone like the Mavs are willing to give him a four-year deal with two guaranteed. They're weird like that.

Blossomgame I'm sure was offered the unguaranteed minimum, but the threat is there that he would have been cut had he signed it. I can't imagine the Spurs offered him a guaranteed min deal while at the same time convincing him to play for 28k in the g-league. You can't even get a modest apartment in Austin for the that kind of money.

Anyways, I'm sure there will be some media coverage the next 48 hours that could shed some light on the whole thing either way. Maybe it's medicals, maybe it was his decision in some fashion, I guess we'll see

[objective]

As an aside, it's disgusting to me to watch Golden State buy a pick year after year in the second round. Spurs need to adjust to the new way of doing things that elite teams like GS are doing in the draft and do the same. Yeah I know we're small market but damnit budget that 2.5 million and go get yourself a guy that slips to the second, those picks can be bought.

Spurs have to save that money for when they pay Masai to take Dejounte or Derrick

[SAGirl]

That's how it looks to me, too. I hope I am wrong. But it seems like the Spurs found a way to turn a mediocre draft into something less. Especially when the Spurs owned 2 first round picks for the first time in forever, the results are just uninspiring at this point. Maybe both guys tear up the summer league and the D League and play a few spot minutes in SA...
Told you not to get excited about the rumors of a trade.

I think I am a little disappointed not bc of the merits of each pick but bc the guys will need time to develop (naturally) and I don't think they will help much next year.

[Chinook]

Blossomgame I'm sure was offered the unguaranteed minimum, but the threat is there that he would have been cut had he signed it. I can't imagine the Spurs offered him a guaranteed min deal while at the same time convincing him to play for 28k in the g-league. You can't even get a modest apartment in Austin for the that kind of money.

Anyways, I'm sure there will be some media coverage the next 48 hours that could shed some light on the whole thing either way. Maybe it's medicals, maybe it was his decision in some fashion, I guess we'll see

Indeed Jaron was offered a non-guaranteed min deal, as are all second-rounders. The first year, he passed on it to play in Austin. The second year, he took it, got cut, went back to Austin, then got a deal with another club. Something similar happened with DeShaun Thomas. Shame about him, btb. He may have had a niche in today's league.

Anyways, yeah, we'll see. I expect to see SA bring in a couple of UDFAs too to go along with Weatherspoon. They tend to use at least a couple of their assignment slots from training camp each year.

[FkLA]

Have to drop Belli this off-season. Ideally, you'd drop both Belli and Wombat but we all know Pop's pet isn't going anywhere.

PG/SG: White, Instagram Baller, Forbes
SG/SF: DePression, Walker
Combo Forwards: Gay, Samanic, MLE signing
Bigs: LMA, Poetl, Bertans
Coach's Pet: Wombat

That's a pretty deep squad, tbf. :tu

[Chomag]

overall Not the weakest draft ever by the Spurs but in terms of team needs and unless FO is planning on offloading a few current players then this would be an F. Nah kidding but maybe a D-

[ZeusWillJudge]

Unfortunately, we threw away pick 49, watched him in SEC play against A&M and he'll never make it out of Austin unless the Spurs just need to kill some regular season minutes.


I think you're wrong about Weatherspoon. He'll be in Austin this year, but I think he's got a shot at making the roster next year. I've got a short list of potential UFA's that would be worth bringing in, and he was on it because I didn't think he'd be drafted. (Partly because of his age.)

Forbes has one of the silkiest strokes ever, but Weatherspoon's is pretty damn good. He could be a legit 40% 3P shooter, and that's enough to at least get him some looks. He's a pretty solid, willing defender - which always helps with Pop. And he's got pretty good hops, and I thought he had an NBA-ready body. He played really well at the Portsmouth Invitational, and that's exactly where the Spurs got sold on Derick White.

Most of the guys that were left were crap-shoot types, and the Spurs can go after them as UFA's anyway.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Have to drop Belli this off-season. Ideally, you'd drop both Belli and Wombat but we all know Pop's pet isn't going anywhere.

PG/SG: White, Instagram Baller, Forbes
SG/SF: DePression, Walker
Combo Forwards: Gay, Samanic, MLE signing
Bigs: LMA, Poetl, Bertans
Coach's Pet: Wombat

That's a pretty deep squad, tbf. :tu


You left off Milutinov. I think he's coming more than ever now.

[Chinook]

Have to drop Belli this off-season. Ideally, you'd drop both Belli and Wombat but we all know Pop's pet isn't going anywhere.

PG/SG: White, Instagram Baller, Forbes
SG/SF: DePression, Walker
Combo Forwards: Gay, Samanic, MLE signing
Bigs: LMA, Poetl, Bertans
Coach's Pet: Wombat

That's a pretty deep squad, tbf. :tu

I think the Spurs consider Samanic to be a PF/C like LMA. He's definitely more there than Bertans is. I don't really like the depth of that squad. They've got to get rid of some of the mediocre guys and upgrade a spot or two. Still pushing for a trade involving Bertans and Beli, but adding Mills would also be nice.

[Jsmythe]

I know a scout for the Sixers. They wanted Luka at 20, he wouldn't have made it to us at 29. So it's one data point but it's clear he wouldn't have fallen.

I think this is what happened. They knew Samanic wouldn't last until 29. And they liked Samanic better than anyone else that was still there at 19. What I'm curious about is what they would have done if someone else they liked more slipped to 19 (Bitadze, Okeke, Doumboya, etc). Would they have tried to trade up to 20-22 to get both Samanic and the other guy? Or just let Samanic go to another team?

At 29, I think Keldon Johnson was a good value pick. On most mocks, he was somewhere in the 15-20 range. He was arguably the best player available at the time.

The 49th pick I'm guessing was prearranged. I wasn't expecting much from it but I wonder if Weatherspoon will ever make the team or will he eventually be let go ala Blossomgame?

[Mugen]

Yeah, you have to move Bertans and Beli (I'd be good with Forbes too of course) and bring in a combo forward that can defend either position...somebody like Ariza/Aminu would be nice....

Dejounte/Fatty
DWhite/Forbes/Lonnie
Derozan/MLE Combo Forward/Lonnie/Keldon
Gay/MLE Combo Forward/Samancic
LMA/Poetl/Samancic

Metu/Eubanks are expendable (though I'm fine keeping Drew as the third big).....

Probably a 2nd round exit team unless the 3 guards make giant leaps next season....

[FkLA]

I think the Spurs consider Samanic to be a PF/C like LMA. He's definitely more there than Bertans is. I don't really like the depth of that squad. They've got to get rid of some of the mediocre guys and upgrade a spot or two. Still pushing for a trade involving Bertans and Beli, but adding Mills would also be nice.

Idk man. His frame and skills are more perimeter oriented from everything I've seen. And during his post-draft interview he himself compared his game to KD (a little delusional) and Kirilenko. I'm sure he'll play plenty of small ball 4 but I can't see him playing the 5 at all.

Bertans to me is more of a big because he's really just strictly a stretch 4. He doesn't really have the handles to play the 3.

[SAGirl]

You left off Milutinov. I think he's coming more than ever now.
I have to ask bc I am curious, why do you think this?

[Indianman]

I wonder what the Cavs were thinking. They have 3 undersized PGs to show for their picks. Collin Sexton(last year), Darius Garland and Kevin Porter Jr.

We're in a better, yet congruent boat with DJ, Lonnie and DWhite. Cheer up people. Things could have been a lot worse.

[Chinook]

I have to ask bc I am curious, why do you think this?

Seems like he thought PATFO would have drafted a center had they given up on Milutinov. They certainly had their chances to do just that. Maybe they passed because they are going to have Nikola on the team too along with Poeltl and Aldridge. Not sure I'm as confident as ZWJ seems to be, but I certainly agree the odds on Nik joining the squad a higher now than they were this time six hours ago.

[SAGirl]

Seems like he thought PATFO would have drafted a center had they given up on Milutinov. They certainly had their chances to do just that. Maybe they passed because they are going to have Nikola on the team too along with Poeltl and Aldridge. Not sure I'm as confident as ZWJ seems to be, but I certainly agree the odds on Nik joining the squad a higher now than they were this time six hours ago.
Thanks for the response. It would be nice to know where they stand with Milutinov.

I stopped paying attention to him as much as I used to bc I started believing once his rookie scale deal became non compelling that he just wasn't coming over.

He might have perhaps changed his mind?

[Chinook]

Thanks for the response. It would be nice to know where they stand with Milutinov.

I stopped paying attention to him as much as I used to bc I started believing once his rookie scale deal became non compelling that he just wasn't coming over.

He might have perhaps changed his mind?

Think it's a timing issue more than anything. He wasn't ready before this most recent contract. Now, he's ready, but the Spurs haven't wanted to prioritize the MLE to bring him over. I think they still have better ways to use it. But they can justify bringing him over this year if they're ever going to. They need Poeltl insurance.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Seems like he thought PATFO would have drafted a center had they given up on Milutinov. They certainly had their chances to do just that. Maybe they passed because they are going to have Nikola on the team too along with Poeltl and Aldridge. Not sure I'm as confident as ZWJ seems to be, but I certainly agree the odds on Nik joining the squad a higher now than they were this time six hours ago.


That's pretty much it.

I know most everyone thinks their main target was Bitadze. But I really think the rumors of them trading up were for Cam Johnson. He was the best shooter in the draft, by far. With his height, and that kind of 3P threat, their biggest need would have been another big man, and Milutinov would solve that.

Everyone was surprised when Johnson went at 11 - even his teammate. When the Spurs turn came, they didn't seem to hesitate moving to Plan B, which was Samanic. If
they were feeling desperate for another big, Claxton, Fernando, and Gafford were all on the board. Not to mention the possibility of picking for someone else in exchange for a serviceable big (of whom there are more than a couple in play right now). Again, because I think they plan on Milutinov coming over.

And if there's not some weird personality issue like him feeling slighted or something, I think he will.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Thanks for the response. It would be nice to know where they stand with Milutinov.


Everything I hear from my friends who really follow Euro play, plus every press tidbit I've read all say that he is absolutely ready to make the move. Like seriously ready, maybe to the point of getting his feelings hurt if they don't bring him over this year. Rumors are worth what you pay for them, but I get the feeling these have wings.

[Jsmythe]

Fansided calls the Spurs draft losers:

https://fansided.com/2019/06/21/nba-draft-2019-winners-losers/7/


Luka Samanic was an incredibly Spurs pick, but he’s not exactly super exciting as a 6-foot-11 big that is a supposed floor spacer and passer, but doesn’t really do well with either. He seems like more of a project, as does Keldon Johnson, who they took at No. 29. Johnson, in particular, is an incredibly un-Spursy pick, an undersized three who doesn’t make high-level decisions, drifts in and out of games, and is a 3-and-D prospect that isn’t very good at either. Combine that with last year’s draft — Lonnie Walker didn’t appear to be a stellar fit even before his injury, and Chimezie Metu was mostly a forgettable disaster — and we could be seeing the cracks in the armor for the Spurs’ draft scouting. All good runs must eventually end, after all.

[John B]

Fansided calls the Spurs draft losers:

https://fansided.com/2019/06/21/nba-draft-2019-winners-losers/7/
Everybody’s catching up

[slick'81]

Fansided calls the Spurs draft losers:

https://fansided.com/2019/06/21/nba-draft-2019-winners-losers/7/


Ouch

[spurraider21]

Hopefully Belli, Wombat, and Forbes are on their way out over the next two years. Then the direction of this pick makes more sense.
doesnt have to make sense. why did we draft white and re-sign forbes one offseason after giving patty his contract?

[ZeusWillJudge]

Yeah, you have to move Bertans and Beli (I'd be good with Forbes too of course) and bring in a combo forward that can defend either position...somebody like Ariza/Aminu would be nice....

Dejounte/Fatty
DWhite/Forbes/Lonnie
Derozan/MLE Combo Forward/Lonnie/Keldon
Gay/MLE Combo Forward/Samancic
LMA/Poetl/Samancic

Metu/Eubanks are expendable (though I'm fine keeping Drew as the third big).....

Probably a 2nd round exit team unless the 3 guards make giant leaps next season....


I think that's a pretty good assessment. I'd really like to see them trip into a good backup PG who is really a PG. I'll go on record right now that I think the Spurs ought to sign Josh Perkins to a 2-way contract right away. I think he's the steal of the UFA class, and he checks a box that the Spurs need checked.

The problem with that other player you want to bring in is that the Spurs absolutely have to keep enough 3P threats. Bertans and Belli are both undependable, but the can make 3's. Anybody else they bring in has to be at least as good from the perimeter. Samanic has a lot more confidence in his 3P shooting than most people here, and I hope he can live up to his claim to be able to "spread the floor for the guards". Weatherspoon will, I believe, be an excellent NBA 3P shooter, but he's not going to be ready this year, IMO. So you can pretty much figure out what the Spurs need to fill out the roster - good luck trying to figure out who that is on the Spurs budget. Ariza will be playing his 16th season, and Aminu's 3P% is just high enough to encourage him to shoot them when he shouldn't.

I'll go on the record again and say that my pick to fill out the roster would be Darius Miller. I think he checks the needed boxes well enough, and I think he'll be available on the Spurs' budget. TBH, I like him a lot better than a bunch of guys who will cost a whole lot more.

So there it is: Bring in Milutinov, Darius Miller, and Josh Perkins. Trim off the excess fat, and call it an offseason.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Fansided calls the Spurs draft losers:

https://fansided.com/2019/06/21/nba-draft-2019-winners-losers/7/


Fuck Fansided, whoever they are. You can't judge Walker because of the injury, but if he lives up to his potential he's a fit on just about any team. Metu has some incredible physical attributes, and was more than worth a flyer at 49. I wonder if the fucktard who wrote the article can point to someone better who was available at 49? Maybe Alize Johnson or Tony Carr?

Speaking of fucktards, Fansided had Bol Bol as the 5th best player in the draft. And the guy who wrote the article thought that Ty Jerome, Jontay Porter, and Jalen Lecque were all "second round steals". Jerome was drafted 24th, and the other two were undrafted. Any of you crowing about Fansided confirming your shitty take on tonight's draft ought to keep in mind just how worthless their own draft predictions were. It took me a good 3 minutes to find out how stupid they are - but I already knew that when the guy talked about a 49th draft pick being a fucking "disaster".

[Kurgan]

Fansided calls the Spurs draft losers:

https://fansided.com/2019/06/21/nba-draft-2019-winners-losers/7/

Truth bombs. Hurts to read but a lot of truth here. Spurs have been undergoing a lot of brain drain the past few years as all the talented people are jumping ship to brighter pastures. The same two geniuses that offered Fatty and Gasoft 90 million continue to make all the wrong decisions. Don't be surprised when they offer Rudy that 4 year loyalty contract in the next few weeks.

[objective]

I know a scout for the Sixers. They wanted Luka at 20, he wouldn't have made it to us at 29. So it's one data point but it's clear he wouldn't have fallen. Johnson's set to be a Danny Green replacement for us if Chip can improve his shot.

Unfortunately, we threw away pick 49, watched him in SEC play against A&M and he'll never make it out of Austin unless the Spurs just need to kill some regular season minutes.

As an aside, it's disgusting to me to watch Golden State buy a pick year after year in the second round. Spurs need to adjust to the new way of doing things that elite teams like GS are doing in the draft and do the same. Yeah I know we're small market but damnit budget that 2.5 million and go get yourself a guy that slips to the second, those picks can be bought.

76ers didn't have the 20th pick, Boston did and forced Philly into a trade for them to get Thybulle.

https://twitter.com/DerekBodnerNBA/status/1141912013922344960

Thybulle himself says the reason he didn't do workouts was Philly's interest in him.

https://twitter.com/DerekBodnerNBA/status/1141927822446997505

[RC_Drunkford]

Everything I hear from my friends who really follow Euro play, plus every press tidbit I've read all say that he is absolutely ready to make the move. Like seriously ready, maybe to the point of getting his feelings hurt if they don't bring him over this year. Rumors are worth what you pay for them, but I get the feeling these have wings.

He was a nominee in the Euro League MVP race, he's definitely ready for the NBA. Problem is Spurs cap space. They only have the MLE

[kobyz]

Ja Morant: "my dad was my first hater"... maybe the best quote of this year draft!

[sasaint]

Told you not to get excited about the rumors of a trade.

I think I am a little disappointed not bc of the merits of each pick but bc the guys will need time to develop (naturally) and I don't think they will help much next year.

I doubt any of them sticks in SA beyond their rookie deal. I think they drafted a fairly redundant big, yet another guard for their growing collection, and third guy who is too small to be a legit NBA 3. But I will keep my fingers crossed that they make a trade or two and sign a good FA to shore up the roster.

[ceperez]

I doubt any of them sticks in SA beyond their rookie deal. I think they drafted a fairly redundant big, yet another guard for their growing collection, and third guy who is too small to be a legit NBA 3. But I will keep my fingers crossed that they make a trade or two and sign a good FA to shore up the roster.

There's also a lot of serviceable free agents this year. So you can't really go crazy about late and second round picks.

[sasaint]

There's also a lot of serviceable free agents this year. So you can't really go crazy about late and second round picks.

I don't think we can get by with the likes of Q-Pon and Dante again this season. We really need to sign a good FA. But I think it is more important to eliminate the logjam in the backcourt. I am hoping (rationally or not) that the Spurs will move both Dumbmar and Marco. I know that Bryn and Patty are redundant, but I like Forbes (and I think Pop does, too), and I do not see Patty ever being traded.

[SAGirl]

Everything I hear from my friends who really follow Euro play, plus every press tidbit I've read all say that he is absolutely ready to make the move. Like seriously ready, maybe to the point of getting his feelings hurt if they don't bring him over this year. Rumors are worth what you pay for them, but I get the feeling these have wings.
I thought asking for Jakob in that infamous trade was a headscratcher when they already had Milutinov waiting to join the team. At some point he was going to have to put pressure on the Spurs to bring him over or set him free if he really wanted to come over but it has been difficult to discern exactly what’s going on with him. Thanks for your analysis. It makes sense.

[TimDunkem]

I thought asking for Jakob in that infamous trade was a headscratcher when they already had Milutinov waiting to join the team. At some point he was going to have to put pressure on the Spurs to bring him over or set him free if he really wanted to come over but it has been difficult to discern exactly what’s going on with him. Thanks for your analysis. It makes sense.

Milutinov will never be a Spur.

[SAGirl]

Milutinov will never be a Spur.
I thought the same until now. Now I don’t know.

I don’t know what role Samanic will have either. I foresee some GLeague bc he’s still a very young big and they usually need time to develop. He has been touted as a shooter some places but doesn’t seem like one and if he’s going to be a non shooter energy big, then I don’t know where Milutinov fits either.

[Mugen]

With the draft over and free agency/summer looming, their path is so straightforward and simple that I fully expect them to fuck it up somehow and keep all of Forbes/Beli/Bertans, while trying to figure out a way to retain QPon or Cunningham....

[ZeusWillJudge]

With the draft over and free agency/summer looming, their path is so straightforward and simple that I fully expect them to fuck it up somehow and keep all of Forbes/Beli/Bertans, while trying to figure out a way to retain QPon or Cunningham....


LOL! Fucking Eeyore. :lol

I wish I could say for sure that you aren't right.

[Marcus Bryant]

I’d hate to see this forum when the Spurs don’t actually make the playoffs.

[GreekSpursfan]

Its pretty obvious that Pop is banking on Murray to be the difference maker on both ends and propel us to at best the WCF. I love Pop but i have to disagree with him. Our window opens up when Derozan and LMA's contract come to an end and the young players have a few years of development. Becky or (Bud) and RC have to deliver then.

[BackHome]

Nope if we don’t trade LMA an DEROZZ for lottery pick then we a 30 plus team for yrs

[Gordy58]

Anybody know if Louis King signed with anybody yet?

[Poolboy5623]

I’d hate to see this forum when the Spurs don’t actually make the playoffs.

Stay tuned...

[tbdog]

Its pretty obvious that Pop is banking on Murray to be the difference maker on both ends and propel us to at best the WCF. I love Pop but i have to disagree with him. Our window opens up when Derozan and LMA's contract come to an end and the young players have a few years of development. Becky or (Bud) and RC have to deliver then.

I disagree. I think LMA and DD need help. I think they need a good starter and also one of Murray and White to make bigger leaps.

[SpurPadre]

I’d hate to see this forum when the Spurs don’t actually make the playoffs.

So, in other words, in 2045?

[TD 21]

I knew it . . .


Ever since the infamous trade, logic has dictated that, barring a repeat of last year when an ideal fit unexpected falls into their lap at 19, they should be trading up . . . and yet, despite clearly having the assets (Heat at 13 and Pistons at 15 are prime targets), I have no confidence in them actually pulling the trigger.


I'm sure they'll get cold feet and play it safe like usual. If they do, I get the sense 19 will be underwhelming. They were lucky to get Murray and Walker where they did (White too, though he was projected in that range), law of averages means it's unlikely to continue.

Worst draft since '13 (maybe '15, but it was secondary to news of Aldridge likely signing). I hated everything about this draft. Passing on Little was insane and not because Samanic couldn't be better in a vacuum, but because it doesn't even matter if he is.

The former is the most coveted, difficult archetype to find and the exact one they need. If if hits (which in his case means gets a reliable spot up 3), he's the kind of role player who could start and close for an elite team deep in the playoffs.

If Samanic hits, he's more than likely a third big, who's impact is muted if not played off the floor altogether deep in the playoffs.

Neither Samanic or Johnson checks any specific box. The latter is probably the least impressive of the wings who were 1st round locks. "Playing hard" is basically his one standout skill, which would be nice if he were a finishing center. Instead, he's another wing with a shaky jumper, who lacks the size to defend big wings. They already have 3 of those and they're all better prospects.

[Dejounte]

A lot of quotable lines here from people who will be eating crow when these kids pan out...especially td 21. How can you even bet against the Spurs selection process at this point? Ive said it since the beginning... Little is garbage and im glad the Spurs didnt value him either. "another wing with a shaky jumper who lacks the size to defend big wings" can be used as a description for Little, and it probably makes more sense for him too. Little is shorter than Johnson. Johnson is also a much better shooter than him. Save this thread forever. We need to go back to it in a few years.

[TD 21]

A lot of quotable lines here from people who will be eating crow when these kids pan out...especially td 21. How can you even bet against the Spurs selection process at this point? Ive said it since the beginning... Little is garbage and im glad the Spurs didnt value him either. "another wing with a shaky jumper who lacks the size to defend big wings" can be used as a description for Little, and it probably makes more sense for him too. Little is shorter than Johnson. Johnson is also a much better shooter than him. Save this thread forever. We need to go back to it in a few years.

Oh that's right, I forgot, they're batting .1000 and are above reproach. :rolleyes

Within' reason, height doesn't matter. Length and strength matter more. Look no further than Scumbag and Green. Little's physical profile is close to Scumbag's, while Johnson's is close to Green's. One is suited to defending big wings, the other is suited to defending traditional wings.

[Dejounte]

They arent batting .1000 but theyre closer to that than the rest of the league. Youre questioning one of the their biggest strengths as an organization...their scouting.

I would agree with you if youre going to question their trade movement or lack thereof. But their scouting is top notch.

[Dejounte]

Also, if youre asking why we didnt get anyone to guard a big wing. Maybe look no further than Luka?

[JuneJive]

TD 21 cut your wrists much? Jeeesus...

[tonight...you]

Stay tuned...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laPNEU5krIc&list=RDySjXFjLTagQ&index=4

[exstatic]

Oh that's right, I forgot, they're batting .1000 and are above reproach. :rolleyes

Within' reason, height doesn't matter. Length and strength matter more. Look no further than Scumbag and Green. Little's physical profile is close to Scumbag's, while Johnson's is close to Green's. One is suited to defending big wings, the other is suited to defending traditional wings.

Little is a fucking coke head! That’s the reason he dropped so damn far. Not only is he a coke head, he rolled over when he got busted. I guess Portland is rolling out their jail Blazer motif again...

[Big Empty]

They scouted this kid for sometime. Hopefully in a few years he’s a beast

[FireMicoHalili]

Little is a fucking coke head! That’s the reason he dropped so damn far. Not only is he a coke head, he rolled over when he got busted. I guess Portland is rolling out their jail Blazer motif again...
Source? Can’t find any on Twitter

[Dverde]

Three headed monster complete. Good job RC!

https://i.imgur.com/XVfQlAi_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[GreekSpursfan]

I disagree. I think LMA and DD need help. I think they need a good starter and also one of Murray and White to make bigger leaps.

I just don't see it happening for us with those two and i'm open minded i want them to succeed especially DDR because the majority of people turn against him(i do that sometimes too, my bad). Somehow though when it matters i'm afraid they will get in their own way, i just don't trust them. We need someone else from within to emerge as The man or we need a top tier free agent.

[K...]

Three headed monster complete. Good job RC!

https://i.imgur.com/XVfQlAi_d.jpg?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

You're missing the pile.of.money for gasol

[tbdog]

I just don't see it happening for us with those two and i'm open minded i want them to succeed especially DDR because the majority of people turn against him(i do that sometimes too, my bad). Somehow though when it matters i'm afraid they will get in their own way, i just don't trust them. We need someone else from within to emerge as The man or we need a top tier free agent.

There is a chance that both Murray and White improve by leaps from their previous season. Murray is particular looks like he can be an upcoming stud. White could be top 5 guards off the bench. Spurs nailing their MLE choice is the big difference though.

[RC_Drunkford]

There is a chance that both Murray and White improve by leaps from their previous season. Murray is particular looks like he can be an upcoming stud. White could be top 5 guards off the bench. Spurs nailing their MLE choice is the big difference though.

This. The roster is deep right now, so the fight for minutes will be intense and Pop will have plenty of options. If this team could somehow add Bogdanovic it would be top 4 in the west for sure. Even Morris or Ariza would improve the team a lot

[GreekSpursfan]

There is a chance that both Murray and White improve by leaps from their previous season. Murray is particular looks like he can be an upcoming stud. White could be top 5 guards off the bench. Spurs nailing their MLE choice is the big difference though.

I believe in Murray too but it will take a couple of years for him to blossom imo and i don't see us resigning LMA or DDR if they don't deliver next year.

[GreekSpursfan]

This. The roster is deep right now, so the fight for minutes will be intense and Pop will have plenty of options. If this team could somehow add Bogdanovic it would be top 4 in the west for sure. Even Morris or Ariza would improve the team a lot

I don't see it happening wih Bojan, he will demand a lot of money since its his last decent contract and we can't go to 20 plus millions territory.

[RC_Drunkford]

I don't see it happening wih Bojan, he will demand a lot of money since its his last decent contract and we can't go to 20 plus millions territory.

Yeah me neither. I thought if the rumor is legit we're making a trade on draft night to dump some salary but now it looks indeed like we're standing pat or making a minor trade while getting salary back

[tbdog]

I believe in Murray too but it will take a couple of years for him to blossom imo and i don't see us resigning LMA or DDR if they don't deliver next year.

Murray might take a few years to be an allstar. I still think Spurs extend DD and signs similar deal LMA got, hopefully cheaper though. Starting at South of 22mil and finishing in 2022/23 season. Essentially giving a 5mil discount in 20 offseason. I think LMA gets a 2 year extension starting 2021 under 20mil a season, like 34mil for 2 years type thing. Gay gets a 2 year 24mil contract. Next season free agency market is poor. Having far more than the MLE but less than the max is probably ideal place to be.


Bertans, beli, Fobes, and gasol's money is off the books. Even if spurs trade Bertans and beli for a longer contract, they'll have space next off season.

[GreekSpursfan]

Murray might take a few years to be an allstar. I still think Spurs extend DD and signs similar deal LMA got, hopefully cheaper though. Starting at South of 22mil and finishing in 2022/23 season. Essentially giving a 5mil discount in 20 offseason. I think LMA gets a 2 year extension starting 2021 under 20mil a season, like 34mil for 2 years type thing. Gay gets a 2 year 24mil contract. Next season free agency market is poor. Having far more than the MLE but less than the max is probably ideal place to be.


Bertans, beli, Fobes, and gasol's money is off the books. Even if spurs trade Bertans and beli for a longer contract, they'll have space next off season.

I still think this upcoming season is a make or break season for both DDR and LMA. The West, outside of the Lakers is wide open, if they shit the bed Pop is not going to tolerate them any longer, this is it for them imo. I think this season is probably Pops last season as the coach. We can't continue being a treadmill team because thats what we are at the moment. Some hard decisions await us next summer. I don't want to say it but i have a bad feeling about this upcoming season, there is a chance we might not make the playoffs.

[BillMc]

Didn't see the full interview posted. My apologies if has been.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PISyFErq9pw

[look_at_g_shred]

Anyone surprised the magic took Okeke at 16? I wonder if he could be had via trade

[BackHome]

Yeah I was shocked he went at 16 oh well I guess that is why Orlando sucks. Lol

[sasaint]

Anyone surprised the magic took Okeke at 16? I wonder if he could be had via trade

Taking him at 16 shows they value him pretty highly. Why would he suddenly be available for trade?