The dem Debates Thread

[Spurtacular]

Kamala relying on grandstanding and being a bitch to Biden. We'll see how far it gets her.

[hater]

Nobody believes the Russians interfered? Nobody except the FBI and every intelligence organization in the United States of America. Yeah nobody else..

The same FBI whom was told off by a US Federal Judge to stop repeating that lie or she will throw out the case vs the Russian troll farm :lol

there is absolutely no link between russian troll farms and kremlin. and the US judge told Mueller to STFU

[SpursforSix]

Biden speculating about “8 more years of Trump”.
wtf

[Spurtacular]

Biden f'd up his big finish. Senility a bitch.

[SpursforSix]

Kamala relying on grandstanding and being a bitch to Biden. We'll see how far it gets her.

CNN about to claim that she dominated the debate.

[Reck]

:lmao Biden's website.

[hater]

Biden :lmao

Oh my god :lol

[SpursforSix]

I predict they’ll ignore Tulsi’s smack down.

[Reck]

Too bad she's from Hawaii and had to put a D next to her name. She'd have a chance on a R ticket in 2024.

She bought herself a position in a Biden Administration.

[SpursforSix]

Biden :lmao

Oh my god :lol

No shit. What the fuck was that? Did someone just set that up for him?

[hater]

https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1156759187386437632

[Spurtacular]

She bought herself a position in a Biden Administration.

On the off-chance there is one.

[hater]

No shit. What the fuck was that? Did someone just set that up for him?

apparently that Biden3030 domain name's address is Hillary's domicile :lol

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1156759187386437632

:lol Yang

A thousand dollars a month to protect against poverty sounds great 'til inflation quickly kicks in to slap the moochers in the face.

[hater]

"go to my website joe30330.com.... anyways...."

https://twitter.com/darcymaine_espn/status/1156759836010393600

[hater]

https://twitter.com/FrostyTakes/status/1156762038108131328

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The same FBI whom was told off by a US Federal Judge to stop repeating that lie or she will throw out the case vs the Russian troll farm :lol

there is absolutely no link between russian troll farms and kremlin. and the US judge told Mueller to STFU

GD right.

[Spurtacular]

SMH

This guy doing post debate analysis via polls.

MSNBC using the same idiots. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

Playing the bitch gonna blow up in her face at some point, tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=35&v=cX_9I7Se6CA

[DarrinS]

https://twitter.com/FrostyTakes/status/1156762038108131328

Ok, I :lol

[Trill Clinton]

Inslee did great tonight. So did Booker and Yang. I like how Tulsi went after Kamala tonight, caught her off guard.

[Nathan89]

UBI and anchor babies and low immigration standards is a laughable combination

[Spurtacular]

:lol No Mueller / Collusion on both nights.
:lol Failed Dems

[Capt Bringdown]

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[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/EricHolder/status/1156765471854796800?s=20

Well that'll make taking Biden down more challenging.

[Winehole23]

Abe Lincoln was the king of free shit. Homestead Act, Land Grant Universities, universal education, civil rights for all, public infrastructure and more.

No wonder the GOP started so strong.A lot of posters harp on the Dems being the party of KKK and white supremacy, but seem unwilling to face the free shit, activist, "national greatness" Republicans of the 19th century -- and hell, the Teddy Roosevelt progressives too -- as well as the 20th century realignment.

Why is that?

Abe Lincoln corresponded with Karl Marx and in a friendly fashion.

[Winehole23]

They exchanged personal letters, but I don't see 21st century Republicans -- or Denocrats, for that matter -- bragging about that.

[Winehole23]

In fact, 21st century Republicans most resemble the white supremacist Dems of the 19th century and early 20th century, railing against activist government, public goods, and civil rights for everybody.

[Winehole23]

They damn sure don't want all US citizens to vote or be represented.

There's only one party trying to make it harder for US citizens to vote and be represented.

[Winehole23]

NYC excepted. That shit's fucked up too.

[spurraider21]

“It is fascinating that Mueller, who Democrats have spent two years making the centerpiece of their efforts to undermine the President, was conspicuously missing from last night’s debate,” Barron said.
Mueller is republican. Should he primary trump?

[Winehole23]

I'll say it again. People call AOC's Green New Deal socialist, but it derives rhetorically and substantively fron TR's "The New Nationalism" address.

https://teachingamericanhistory.org/library/document/new-nationalism-speech/

[Winehole23]

Natural conservation as the moral equivalent of war:


be used for the benefit of all our people, and not monopolized for the benefit of the few, and here again is another case in which I am accused of taking a revolutionary attitude. People forget now that one hundred years ago there were public men of good character who advocated the nation selling its public lands in great quantities, so that the nation could get the most money out of it, and giving it to the men who could cultivate it for their own uses. We took the proper democratic ground that the land should be granted in small sections to the men who were actually to till it and live on it. Now, with the water power, with the forests, with the mines, we are brought face to face with the fact that there are many people who will go with us in conserving the resources only if they are to be allowed to exploit them for their benefit. That is one of the fundamental reasons why the special interests should be driven out of politics. Of all the questions which can come before this nation, short of the actual preservation of its existence in a great war, there is none which compares in importance with the great central task of leaving this land even a better land for our descendants than it is for us, and training them into a better race to inhabit the land and pass it on. Conservation is a great moral issue, for it involves the patriotic duty of insuring the safety and continuance of the nation. Let me add that the health and vitality of our people are at least as well worth conserving as their forests, waters, lands, and minerals, and in this great work the national government must bear a most important part.

[Winehole23]

Preponderance of property over labor and social justice:


Nothing is more true than that excess of every kind is followed by reaction; a fact which should be pondered by reformer and reactionary alike. We are face to face with new conceptions of the relations of property to human welfare, chiefly because certain advocates of the rights of property as against the rights of men have been pushing their claims too far. The man who wrongly holds that every human right is secondary to his profit must now give way to the advocate of human welfare, who rightly maintains that every man holds his property subject to the general right of the community to regulate its use to whatever degree the public welfare may require it.

[Winehole23]

Read it, AOC is derivative from TR.

[Winehole23]

The progressivism of 100 years ago only seems radical because we've regressed so far past it. Trump and his judicial scions are trying to bring back the legal milieu of the late 19th-early 20th century, the Lochner and Plessy v Ferguson era.

[Winehole23]

This is what the "deconstruction of the administrative state" means, among other things.

[Winehole23]

Trump is the worst President since Woodrow Wilson and approaches him already for harm to the republic and the people.

[hater]

Trump is the worst President since Woodrow Wilson and approaches him already for harm to the republic and the people.

Mkay have you gone to joe30303.com and made your donation? :lmao

[boutons_deux]

They exchanged personal letters, but I don't see 21st century Republicans -- or Denocrats, for that matter -- bragging about that.

Karl had many points right, and he correctly described much of 21st century USA, esp the wealthy crushing the non-wealthy.

[DarrinS]

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[baseline bum]

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LOL ClearChannel and Fox News not being the media.

[TheGreatYacht]

Progressives Crush Moderates (Republican lites) At First Democratic Debate

https://youtu.be/8G7RvBTIksI

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Yep, that's Holder, has blood on it from when he sent those tanks into Waco.

[Thread]

Progressives Crush Moderates (Republican lites) At First Democratic Debate

https://youtu.be/8G7RvBTIksI

Both these Tired Old Shit Bags are finished. No Presidency for them. They can stand over there with Hillary.

ha, ha.

[hater]

I had missed this one :lmao

w6d9-kn3U3o

[Winehole23]

Mkay have you gone to joe30303.com and made your donation? :lmaoBiden is the worst possible choice for the Dems. A vote for Biden is a vote for a second Trump term

[DarrinS]

:lol

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[spurraider21]

its pretty odd to slam a prosecutor for prosecuting people

[Capt Bringdown]

Propagandists Are Freaking Out Over Gabbard’s Destruction Of Harris --> (https://medium.com/@caityjohnstone/propagandists-are-freaking-out-over-gabbards-destruction-of-harris-5d54e98f0431)


War is the glue that holds the empire together. A politician can get away with opposing some aspects of the status quo when it comes to healthcare or education, but war as a strategy for maintaining global dominance is strictly off limits. This is how you tell the difference between someone who actually wants to change things and someone who’s just going through the motions for show; the real rebels forcefully oppose the actual pillars of empire by calling for an end to military bloodshed, while the performers just stick to the safe subjects.
The shrill, hysterical pushback that Gabbard received last night was very encouraging, because it means she’s forcing them to fight back.

Whoever controls the narrative controls the world. Whoever disrupts that narrative control is doing the real work.

[hater]

its pretty odd to slam a prosecutor for prosecuting people

Also pretty odd for this prosecutor to then laugh and confess she smoked weed to Tupac and Biggie in the past on live radio.

Not to mention hiding evidence that would have exonerated a man in jail and being caught in the act.

[Capt Bringdown]

B-B-Burrrn!

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[koriwhat]

Also pretty odd for this prosecutor to then laugh and confess she smoked weed to Tupac and Biggie in the past on live radio.

Not to mention hiding evidence that would have exonerated a man in jail and being caught in the act.

i agree and loved every minute of kamala getting her shit pushed in by tulsi. :tu

with that said, why did satx put a known (ex) drug dealer in as DA(LaHood) a few yrs back? we need to stop this in politics starting with blocking kamala from getting any further.

[rmt]

He won the general action mostly because of two reasons. Number one Hillary Clinton was the most hated candidate the Democrats could’ve possibly put forward. Number 2 Russian interference. And he still lost the popular vote by millions and millions of votes.

LOL - Trump won because he convinced enough people in WI, Mi and PA to vote for him (iirc, any of those states would have put him over the top).

[Reck]

Biden is the worst possible choice for the Dems. A vote for Biden is a vote for a second Trump term

How is he the "worst" possible choice?

Seems to me that if you're not an ultra progressive candidate than you're not good enough. I think he takes it to Trump and does it with room.

I also believe Bernie and Warren would as well but with a closer margin.

[hater]

How is he the "worst" possible choice?

Seems to me that if you're not an ultra progressive candidate than you're not good enough. I think he takes it to Trump and does it with room.

I also believe Bernie and Warren would as well but with a closer margin.

Biden can't even remember his ow n website :lmao

How the fuck is he gonna take it to Trump :lol

[Reck]

Biden can't even remember his ow n website :lmao

How the fuck is he gonna take it to Trump :lol

That makes no sense.

This election is about electability. Taking on Trump is the easy part.

Hillary was even able to do it.

[hater]

That makes no sense.

This election is about electability. Taking on Trump is the easy part.

Hillary was even able to do it.

Dimwit

How is he gonna remember his talking points if he can't remember his own website

He will just look at the ground and say "anyways..". How d fuck is that taking it to Trump?

[boutons_deux]

LOL - Trump won because he convinced enough people in WI, Mi and PA to vote for him (iirc, any of those states would have put him over the top).

the three states that Trash "won" to win the EC by 78K votes?

Silver said he saw movement away from Hillary in those 3 states after Comey "elected" Trash with a letter to Trash-sucker, ratfucker Nunes that they found emails on Huma's machine, emails that FBI hadn't read, and when read finally were nothing of interest.

None of that anything to do with Trash "convincing" anybody. Comey elected Trash

[koriwhat]

Hillary was even able to do it.

is that right? :lmao

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fi2.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Ffacebook%2F001%2F189%2 F357%2Fba1.jpg&f=1

poor delusional tranny...

[CosmicCowboy]

Dimwit

How is he gonna remember his talking points if he can't remember his own website

He will just look at the ground and say "anyways..". How d fuck is that taking it to Trump?

It wasn't his website. He made the mistake of saying "go to" instead of "tweet"

[hater]

It wasn't his website. He made the mistake of saying "go to" instead of "tweet"

Actually it was a text address not tweet. Even worse tho, how do you not know the difference between a text address and a website? :lmao

[Winehole23]

How is he the "worst" possible choice?

Seems to me that if you're not an ultra progressive candidate than you're not good enough. I think he takes it to Trump and does it with room.

I also believe Bernie and Warren would as well but with a closer margin.Likabilty/credibilty.

Biden and his weak, phoney baloney corporatist bs, will turn off too many people.

DJT won in 2016 with fewer votes than Romney got in 2012 because Dems didn't like HRC very much. Pure hunch, but I think a Biden candidacy would pose a similar scenario.

[Winehole23]

I expect Biden to self-immolate at some point; last night's diffident, muddling perfromance did not inspire confidence.

[Spurminator]

DJT won in 2016 with fewer votes than Romney got in 2012 because Dems didn't like HRC very much. Pure hunch, but I think a Biden candidacy would pose a similar scenario.

Perhaps too close for comfort, but the reality that Donald Trump can actually win a Presidential election, unbelievable to many in 2016, should motivate enough Dem voters in 2020 regardless.

[Winehole23]

Perhaps too close for comfort, but the reality that Donald Trump can actually win a Presidential election, unbelievable to many in 2016, should motivate enough Dem voters in 2020 regardless.Being against Trump might not be enough. Dems should try being for something this time around. The wonky, incrementalist talk from Biden, Booker and Harris could fail to inspire voters to get off the couch.

[DarrinS]

Being against Trump might not be enough. Dems should try being for something this time around. The wonky, incrementalist talk from Biden, Booker and Harris could fail to inspire voters to get off the couch.

I'll be inspired to vote, if one of these kook lefties gets the nom.

[Winehole23]

I'll be inspired to vote, if one of these kook lefties gets the nom.What a surprise to hear you'll be pulling the lever for Trump again.

You'll deny it, but that's because you're a liar.

[TheGreatYacht]

CNN Caught Blocking Bernie Supporters From Camera w/Jordan Chariton

https://youtu.be/VDcjOaAR3Sk

[spurraider21]

I'll be inspired to vote, if one of these kook lefties gets the nom.
there isn't a democratic candidate on the planet that you'd vote for ahead of trump, so this statement in meaningless

[Reck]

Being against Trump might not be enough. Dems should try being for something this time around. The wonky, incrementalist talk from Biden, Booker and Harris could fail to inspire voters to get off the couch.

I get what you're saying but it is clear that policy and enviromental changes talk is not going to make a bit of difference here. There are far better choices right there for the picking but the majority of voters want Trump out and they want to be sure he is taken out. I think Biden fits that mold perfectly in terms of making everyone comfortable enough to vote for him.

If Biden survives the primary process I think you'll be surprise how many people will vote for him because he's actually liked by most people despite being a middle of the road dem.

If the debates are anything to go by, the way these other candidates have decided to attack Biden by shitting on Obama and his admin, they will have a hard time getting actual democrats to show up for them come the elections.

[Winehole23]

I get what you're saying but it is clear that policy and enviromental changes talk is not going to make a bit of difference here. There are far better choices right there for the picking but the majority of voters want Trump out and they want to be sure he is taken out. I think Biden fits that mold perfectly in terms of making everyone comfortable enough to vote for him.

If Biden survives the primary process I think you'll be surprise how many people will vote for him because he's actually liked by most people despite being a middle of the road dem.

If the debates are anything to go by, the way these other candidates have decided to attack Biden by shitting on Obama and his admin, they will have a hard time getting actual democrats to show up for them come the elections.All that seems more wishful than observable to me, but who knows?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1156942726539165696?s=20

Things like this end up benefitting Trump tbh

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1156942726539165696?s=20

Things like this end up benefitting Trump tbh
wow. big trumper says things that benefit trump on twitter.

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/robbysoave/status/1156942726539165696?s=20

Things like this end up benefitting Trump tbh

& the very moment he is no longer President this Russian materiel will disappear the same instant. Media will steer us away & onto a fresh field of hand wringing horseshit.

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wow. big trumper says things that benefit trump on twitter.

& you have your gaggle doing the opposite. You couldn't ignore Twitter, so, you joined us there.

[spurraider21]

& you have your gaggle doing the opposite. You couldn't ignore Twitter, so, you joined us there.
i usually do, honestly... but when i tune in, i usually directly follow big names themselves, dont care what random joes have to say about them

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i usually do, honestly... but when i tune it, i usually directly follow big names themselves, not dont care what random joes have to say about them

But, every little bit helps, that's the tact that Trump instituted. "Lodge a rebuttal, something, anything to blunt an inroad."

Before we had to depend on Media (friend OR foe) to construct & conduct the battlefield. Not anymore, not since Trump. Like I said the other day:::He showed us how to fight back. Those people at his rallies had always been decapitated by Media, had absolutely no image, no voice. They now have an image, a means to retain it & a voice channeled for & thru the old man. & Media knows it; they just can't figure a way around it. They'd like to have gov't run it ("Twitter") but then that would hinder them once, if ever they (Media) figure a way to get on top of "Twitter."

[spurraider21]

But, every little bit helps, that's the tact that Trump instituted. "Lodge a rebuttal, something, anything to blunt an inroad."

Before we had to depend on Media (friend OR foe) to construct & conduct the battlefield. Not anymore, not since Trump. Like I said the other day:::He showed us how to fight back. Those people at his rallies had always been decapitated by Media, had absolutely no image, no voice. They now have an image, a means to retain it & a voice channeled for & thru the old man. & Media knows it; they just can't figure a way around it. They'd like to have gov't run it ("Twitter") but then that would hinder them once, if ever they (Media) figure a way to get on top of "Twitter."
Media gave Trump more free advertising than any other candidate, and it wasn't particularly close.

But either way, if I wanted to hear what trump said, I'd go to his twitter and read it directly. Couldn't care less about his cheerleaders clapping like seals (no offense, Mr. Castleberry).

[Thread]

Media gave Trump more free advertising than any other candidate, and it wasn't particularly close.

But either way, if I wanted to hear what trump said, I'd go to his twitter and read it directly. Couldn't care less about his cheerleaders clapping like seals (no offense, Mr. Castleberry).

Agreed, & they regret that decision. But, they figured they'd get (even) on the other side of that 1st Tuesday, again (2 bites at the apple)...laud Her 24/7/365 & the 2nd bite: tease & torment Him & Us 24/7/365 that WE weren't President. They get no bites now. They attack him 24/7/365, but, at the end of every one of those 365 days a year He's President. & He & They know it. Is (that) enough for Him? Unfortunately (no). One can't fill that cup of bile, of vengeance. There is a small hole in the bottom of it that keeps leaking. Dollars to donuts He drilled that hole. Or, perhaps Mr. Castleberry did both our cups, eh?

[Spurminator]

Being against Trump might not be enough. Dems should try being for something this time around. The wonky, incrementalist talk from Biden, Booker and Harris could fail to inspire voters to get off the couch.

Being against Hillary was enough in 2016.

I'm not saying anti-Trump should be the primary Democrat message in 2020, but none of the candidates will be as bipartisanly loathed as she was...

...unless liberals continue to do the RNC's work for them by pushing this "Biden is basically Trump" notion that seems to have appeared out of thin air this year, even though he was a largely popular Vice President for 8 years.

[Winehole23]

Being against Hillary was enough in 2016.
Disagree, there was much more to Trump's emotional connection with voters: celebrity, wealth, racism, xenophobia, sadistic cruelty, misogyny and contempt for democratic process/institutions.

If the Dems nominate someone who can't inspire the base they're in trouble.

What's ao great about Biden? Does he excite you?

[koriwhat]

Disagree, there was much more to Trump's emotional connection with voters: celebrity, wealth, racism, xenophobia, sadistic cruelty, misogyny and contempt for democratic process/institutions.

all leftwing talking points. you're just stepping in line with the rest of the sheep.

[Reck]

all leftwing talking points. you're just stepping in line with the rest of the sheep.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU-Ls6-kCu8

Video proof.

[Trill Clinton]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU-Ls6-kCu8

Video proof.

thugs

[koriwhat]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU-Ls6-kCu8

Video proof.

:lmao

taking your hat off and waiving on someone to fight... 2 losers and one with the worst boxing "skills" ever.

keep crying tranny. :cry

[koriwhat]

celebrity, wealth, racism, xenophobia, sadistic cruelty, misogyny and contempt for democratic process/institutions.

i wouldn't consider that video falling in any of the above categories except maybe the underlined but not even that either tbh.

snorefest...

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1157330915715977216?s=19

Democrats are good at erasing/hiding evidence.

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1157330915715977216?s=19

Democrats are good at erasing/hiding evidence.

i hope that whole party crashes and burns eventually. bunch of fucking crooks!

[Winehole23]

all leftwing talking points. you're just stepping in line with the rest of the sheep.it's all true

[koriwhat]

it's all true

:lmao lemming

[Spurminator]

Disagree, there was much more to Trump's emotional connection with voters: celebrity, wealth, racism, xenophobia, sadistic cruelty, misogyny and contempt for democratic process/institutions.

If the Dems nominate someone who can't inspire the base they're in trouble.

I think you underestimate the number of people who held their noses to vote for Trump because they were lifelong Republicans who hate Clinton. Surely you aren't suggesting every Trump voter was drawn to the sadism and cruelty. How many conservatives do you know?

Trump's approval ratings were terrible among Republicans during the primaries, but increased with that group once he was the nominee. Why? His message didn't change. Did half of Republicans come to love the xenophobia, or did they register approval of him (and then vote for him) merely as a contrast to Clinton? How many Republicans do you recall thought he would mellow out once he was President? Almost all of the ones I know felt that way.


What's ao great about Biden? Does he excite you?

I've never said anything was great about him. He doesn't excite me in any way except that his victory would represent a change from the current POTUS. I feel that way about every viable Democratic candidate, and I think you guys underestimate how many people feel passionately this way as well.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1158146832352075790?s=20

Gasp. How can she attack the media?

[TheGreatYacht]

https://twitter.com/ewarren/status/1158146832352075790?s=20

Gasp. How can she attack the media?


https://youtu.be/jsTxfH6tnww

[TheGreatYacht]

IDIOTS :bang:depressed:hang

https://youtu.be/O-QP5TBTVhY

[koriwhat]

IDIOTS :bang:depressed:hang

https://youtu.be/O-QP5TBTVhY

right then and there is when they all should've lost their tenures, seats, etc because the oath they took was to us citizens and not illegals. fuck these crooks!

[TheGreatYacht]

right then and there is when they all should've lost their tenures, seats, etc because the oath they took was to us citizens and not illegals. fuck these crooks!

"Raise your hand if you want Trump to get reelected in 2020" :lol

[koriwhat]

"Raise your hand if you want Trump to get reelected in 2020" :lol

basically they all slit their wrists at the chance for pres right then and there.

[Capt Bringdown]

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right then and there is when they all should've lost their tenures, seats, etc because the oath they took was to us citizens and not illegals. fuck these crooks!

Tell it, kw. Testify!!!

[boutons_deux]

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[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/AndrewHClark/status/1159630998667239425?s=20:rollin

[Reck]

"Raise your hand if you want Trump to get reelected in 2020" :lol

ROFL if you think this would determine whether Trump wins or loses.

[Thread]

ROFL if you think this would determine whether Trump wins or loses.

He took Hillary, turned her upside down & jammed her, head first, straight into the earth.

Get some, Recky.

[Winehole23]

Biden continues to chip away at his own viability.

[Reck]

He took Hillary, turned her upside down & jammed her, head first, straight into the earth.

Get some, Recky.

You're playing the troll game with me, Thread? For shame!

[Thread]

You're playing the troll game with me, Thread? For shame!

Only good heartedly, chappie.