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alpha_HaZE
07-14-2019, 12:52 AM
RkAgeGGSMP
1DeMar DeRozan2977772688
2LaMarcus Aldridge3381812687
3Bryn Forbes2582812293
4Patty Mills308211908
5Rudy Gay3269511842
6Marco Belinelli327911815
7Derrick White2467551728
8Dvis Bertns2676121632
9Jakob Pltl2377241273
10Dante Cunningham316421928
11Pau Gasol38276330
12Quincy Pondexter30530292
13Chimezie Metu21290145
14Lonnie Walker20170118
15Drew Eubanks21230113
16Donatas Motiejnas283013
Team Totals8219805



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Generated 7/13/2019.



As you can see there are 19805 minutes available during the reg season for all players combined.

Let's say 805 of them go to non-top10 players. Which means there are 19,000 minutes to share among the following 10 players,as follows;

LA and DD take a step back and each play 2,400min; that's 4,800 min
DJ and Derrick White each get 2,100min; that's 9,000min
Rudy, Jakob about 1800min; that's a total of 12,600 minutes
DeMarre and Bryn about 1500min; so we are up to 15,600 minutes.

So there are 3,400 minutes left for Belli and Lonnie, I say each plays 1,700 minutes.

So am glad Davis is gone, because we really don't have any minutes for him. And it makes sense if we were to trade a player or two to free up some minutes.

What do you guys think the minutes should look like next season?

apalisoc_9
07-14-2019, 01:28 AM
Who the fuck does total minutes? You weirdo .

Fusternino
07-14-2019, 01:49 AM
What a roast, lol.

Your minutes for Marco and Lonnie are way too high. Other than that I really want to play our two rookies a lot this year. Would alleviate the whole lack of forwards situation.

cutewizard
07-14-2019, 02:04 AM
Haha

cd021
07-14-2019, 02:24 AM
Murray-28 mpg, Mills- 20 mpg

Forbes- 20-22 mpg, White, 26-28 mpg

DDR- 32 mpg, Walker 16 mpg

Carroll-22 mpg, Gay 26 mpg

LMA-30 mpg, Poeltl 18 mpg

RC_Drunkford
07-14-2019, 05:55 AM
Murray-28 mpg, Mills- 20 mpg

Forbes- 20-22 mpg, White, 26-28 mpg

DDR- 32 mpg, Walker 16 mpg

Carroll-22 mpg, Gay 26 mpg

LMA-30 mpg, Poeltl 18 mpg

that should be pretty accurate

Play Boban
07-14-2019, 10:59 AM
Murray-28 mpg, Mills- 20 mpg

Forbes- 20-22 mpg, White, 26-28 mpg

DDR- 32 mpg, Walker 16 mpg

Carroll-22 mpg, Gay 26 mpg

LMA-30 mpg, Poeltl 18 mpg
Unless you want to lose, POELTL 30 MPG

talkspurs
07-14-2019, 11:51 AM
Unless you want to lose, POELTL 30 MPG

Mills also does not get 20 min a game. Why do people always try and do a 10 man rotation? most teams will have an 8 to 9 man rotation. If white is the backup he will play the one and 2 soaking up most of those min. Carroll plays 3 and 4 and I think Gay starts. DDR plays 2 and 3 to help space some and Potel will play more then 18. I would think.

I would think something like

Murray 28 White 20

Forbes24 White 12 DDR 12

DDR 22 Carroll 16 Walker/Belli/ mills (at sg/ PG) 10 min

Gay 28 Aldridge 12 Carroll 8

Aldridge 22 Potel 26

Dex
07-14-2019, 11:54 AM
Forbes - 48

Mills - 48

Beli - 48

Metu - 48

Eubanks - 48

C-Dub
07-14-2019, 03:38 PM
DDR, LMA @ 35-39 min
Forbes @ 32-35 min
DJM, White, Gay @ 28-32 min
Mills, Poeltl, Carroll @ 25-28 min
LW4 @ 16-19 min
Beli, Lyles @ 8-10 min
KJ, Luka, Metu @ 0-6 min

cd021
07-14-2019, 04:03 PM
Unless you want to lose, POELTL 30 MPG

Pretty clear that Poeltl is going to be the backup 5.

cd021
07-14-2019, 04:09 PM
Mills also does not get 20 min a game. Why do people always try and do a 10 man rotation? most teams will have an 8 to 9 man rotation. If white is the backup he will play the one and 2 soaking up most of those min. Carroll plays 3 and 4 and I think Gay starts. DDR plays 2 and 3 to help space some and Potel will play more then 18. I would think.

I would think something like

Murray 28 White 20

Forbes24 White 12 DDR 12

DDR 22 Carroll 16 Walker/Belli/ mills (at sg/ PG) 10 min

Gay 28 Aldridge 12 Carroll 8

Aldridge 22 Potel 26

Most teams don't have 10 good players, tbh. Spurs playing 10 is fine. Also I get that Mills isn't well liked but with Bertans gone and Beli on the outs of the rotations, Mills is going to need to play-he shot almost 40% from 3 on 5 3's a game, he also had the best on/ off numbers on the team last season.

BSfromTX
07-14-2019, 04:12 PM
Mills also does not get 20 min a game. Why do people always try and do a 10 man rotation? most teams will have an 8 to 9 man rotation. If white is the backup he will play the one and 2 soaking up most of those min. Carroll plays 3 and 4 and I think Gay starts. DDR plays 2 and 3 to help space some and Potel will play more then 18. I would think.

I would think something like

Murray 28 White 20

Forbes24 White 12 DDR 12

DDR 22 Carroll 16 Walker/Belli/ mills (at sg/ PG) 10 min

Gay 28 Aldridge 12 Carroll 8

Aldridge 22 Potel 26

How in the world do you figure Forbes gets more min than white?

BSfromTX
07-14-2019, 04:14 PM
Nvm sorry. I see his min at the 2

pad300
07-14-2019, 04:45 PM
Pretty clear that Poeltl is going to be the backup 5.

Unless Pop goes big ball, with Aldridge at the 4... Which he does like...

cd021
07-14-2019, 04:53 PM
Unless Pop goes big ball, with Aldridge at the 4... Which he does like...
With the attempted addition of Morris and the actual addition of Carroll, it seems clear that Carroll and Gay will be the 4's and Aldridge and Poeltl will be the 5's. Pop may play big in stretches but it seems that that isn't the way that the rotation is going to shake out.

Shakril
07-14-2019, 04:55 PM
Unless Pop goes big ball, with Aldridge at the 4... Which he does like...

And it had success, especially in the PO. With Poeltl on the Court the Defense was much more solid. It was no coincidence that nearly every run Denver made was when Poeltl was on the Bench or the Mill-Belli Combo was on the court.

talkspurs
07-14-2019, 04:56 PM
Most teams don't have 10 good players, tbh. Spurs playing 10 is fine. Also I get that Mills isn't well liked but with Bertans gone and Beli on the outs of the rotations, Mills is going to need to play-he shot almost 40% from 3 on 5 3's a game, he also had the best on/ off numbers on the team last season.

I dont really consider mills to be a good player and he is at the most crowded part of the roster. I think we will be fine on 3s but I did include 10 min for him beli and walker to split. I also think there is probably another 15-20 MPG avg that does not count when people try and split it between 48 due to OT and players being injured/rested. I could see Murray starting out less and his min growing as the season progressing and them getting more comfortable with his injury.

pad300
07-14-2019, 05:01 PM
PG - Murray (28), White (14), Forbes(3), Mills (3)
SG - White (14) Forbes (15), Mills (10), Lonnie (6), Beli (3)
SF - DDR (30), Carroll (13), Lonnie (3), Beli (2)
PF - Aldridge (12), Gay (22), Carroll (10), Lyles (4)
C - Poetl (25), Aldridge (18), Lyles (5)

I'd like to see Lonnie eat all of Beli's minutes, but I don't believe it...

Common Expected Guard Pairings (PG,SG) : 1. Murray, White 2. Murray, Forbes 3. White, Forbes 4. Murray, Mills 5 White, Mills
Common Big Pairings (C,PF): 1. Poetl, Aldridge, 2. Aldridge, Gay 3. Aldridge, Caroll 4. Poetl Gay 5. Poetl, Carroll

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SpursDynasty85
07-14-2019, 05:12 PM
Murray-28 mpg, Mills- 20 mpg

Forbes- 20-22 mpg, White, 26-28 mpg

DDR- 32 mpg, Walker 16 mpg

Carroll-22 mpg, Gay 26 mpg

LMA-30 mpg, Poeltl 18 mpg

5 less for Mills 5 more for Forbes, rest looks good.

Roscoe P. Coltrane
07-14-2019, 05:20 PM
Mills also does not get 20 min a game. Why do people always try and do a 10 man rotation? most teams will have an 8 to 9 man rotation. If white is the backup he will play the one and 2 soaking up most of those min. Carroll plays 3 and 4 and I think Gay starts. DDR plays 2 and 3 to help space some and Potel will play more then 18. I would think.

I would think something like Gay can't play that many minutes.

Murray 28 White 20

Forbes24 White 12 DDR 12

DDR 22 Carroll 16 Walker/Belli/ mills (at sg/ PG) 10 min

Gay 28 Aldridge 12 Carroll 8

Aldridge 22 Potel 26

talkspurs
07-14-2019, 05:38 PM
He avg more then 26 last year and is healthier this year. going up a little over a min is not much.

picnroll
07-14-2019, 05:41 PM
If things go well Walker’s minutes will increase as the season goes along based on play.

picnroll
07-14-2019, 05:41 PM
If things go well Walker’s minutes will increase as the season goes along based on play.

Play Boban
07-14-2019, 06:38 PM
Pretty clear that Poeltl is going to be the backup 5.
Yeah, why would we want to go with the lineup that nearly powered us to a series victory over a superior foe with Poeltl at the 5 and LMA at the 4? Who cares about defense? Let’s play dumb small ball like all the other copycat moronic teams in this league tbh!!!

spurs10
07-14-2019, 07:50 PM
Murray-28 mpg, Mills- 20 mpg

Forbes- 20-22 mpg, White, 26-28 mpg

DDR- 32 mpg, Walker 16 mpg

Carroll-22 mpg, Gay 26 mpg

LMA-30 mpg, Poeltl 18 mpg Looks good. You know if Carroll can start we would be in a good spot. Question is scoring with the starters with Gay on the bench. Of all our players I think Gay probably best covers what we 'never had' in Morris. So Gay starting at the 4 might be the move. I'm sure we'll see a lot of rotations including Poeltl starting and LMA at the 4.

cd021
07-14-2019, 09:35 PM
Yeah, why would we want to go with the lineup that nearly powered us to a series victory over a superior foe with Poeltl at the 5 and LMA at the 4? Who cares about defense? Let’s play dumb small ball like all the other copycat moronic teams in this league tbh!!!

You forgot the part where Denver was able to clamp down on the Poeltl starting lineup because they realized that only Forbes shot 3s at a high rate.

Aldridge and Poeltl may work but not with DDR and Murray/White on the floor too.

cd021
07-14-2019, 09:39 PM
Looks good. You know if Carroll can start we would be in a good spot. Question is scoring with the starters with Gay on the bench. Of all our players I think Gay probably best covers what we 'never had' in Morris. So Gay starting at the 4 might be the move. I'm sure we'll see a lot of rotations including Poeltl starting and LMA at the 4.

I think starting Carroll has the added benefit of limiting the amount of minutes that Gay plays. He is an important player who has issues staying healthy. Him coming off the bench improves it while Carroll starting shouldn't hurt it, ideally.

Aldridge and DDR would carry the starting offense with Murray as a 3rd option and Forbes and Carroll as the floor spacers. White and Gay would carry the bench units offense.

cd021
07-14-2019, 09:47 PM
I dont really consider mills to be a good player and he is at the most crowded part of the roster. I think we will be fine on 3s but I did include 10 min for him beli and walker to split. I also think there is probably another 15-20 MPG avg that does not count when people try and split it between 48 due to OT and players being injured/rested. I could see Murray starting out less and his min growing as the season progressing and them getting more comfortable with his injury.

Mills and Forbes are really the only high volume 3pt shooters that this team has. With Bertans gone and Beli on the outside of the rotation, Mills is important to the rotation. Spurs were 29th in 3pt attempts last year, my projected rotation may shoot closer to 22 3s,if Mills saw his minutes cut significantly. That's not a winning strategy tbh.

I only took into the rotation without injuries, OT (which wouldn't factor in much over the course of 82 games) and rest games.

I would think Poeltl would benefit from Aldridge rest games, I could see Pop starting to load manage LMA more.

spurs10
07-14-2019, 10:30 PM
You forgot the part where Denver was able to clamp down on the Poeltl starting lineup because they realized that only Forbes shot 3s at a high rate.

Aldridge and Poeltl may work but not with DDR and Murray/White on the floor too. Yes Forbes has to be out there in this rotation.


I think starting Carroll has the added benefit of limiting the amount of minutes that Gay plays. He is an important player who has issues staying healthy. Him coming off the bench improves it while Carroll starting shouldn't hurt it, ideally.

Aldridge and DDR would carry the starting offense with Murray as a 3rd option and Forbes and Carroll as the floor spacers. White and Gay would carry the bench units offense. If Forbes and Carroll can stretch the floor this a great look. If it helps manage Gay's minutes more, all the better. Like it and won't be surprised if that's what works.

Play Boban
07-15-2019, 06:57 AM
You forgot the part where Denver was able to clamp down on the Poeltl starting lineup because they realized that only Forbes shot 3s at a high rate.

Aldridge and Poeltl may work but not with DDR and Murray/White on the floor too.
:cry Nice try :cry

duncan2150
07-15-2019, 08:21 AM
PG Murray ( 26) White ( 12) Mills ( 10)
SG Forbes (20) White ( 16) Walker ( 12)
SF Derozan( 32) Caroll ( 16)
PF Gay (26) Lyles ( 16) Caroll(6)
C Aldridge (30) Poetl ( 18)

monty4329
07-15-2019, 08:24 AM
If things go well Walker’s minutes will increase as the season goes along based on play.

More likely if things go bad

monty4329
07-15-2019, 08:29 AM
With Bertans gone and Beli apparently on his way out (btw it doesn't make any sense to send on his way the only shooter we have), then minutes are irrelevant: it will be 48 minutes of DDR long 2s and LMA fadeaways when the depressed is on the bench.

cd021
07-15-2019, 08:54 AM
PG Murray ( 26) White ( 12) Mills ( 10)
SG Forbes (20) White ( 16) Walker ( 12)
SF Derozan( 32) Caroll ( 16)
PF Gay (26) Lyles ( 16) Caroll(6)
C Aldridge (30) Poetl ( 18)
Why would Lyles be in the rotation?

FutureMan
07-15-2019, 09:42 AM
Interesting takes here but:

0% chance that Forbes plays under 20 minutes
0% chance Mills plays under 15 minutes