The Biden-Ukraine corruption case: chronology and facts [Archive] - Page 2

boutons_deux

10-20-2019, 06:58 PM

Trash is gonna blame Ukraine on scapegoat Julie Annie, his idea, not mine, etc, etc

Trump’s DOJ Just Threw Rudy Giuliani Under The Bus

a statement on Sunday night that distanced the DOJ from Rudy Giuliani.

The New York Times reported: (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/20/us/politics/rudy-giuliani-justice-department.html)

The Justice Department distanced itself on Sunday from Rudolph W. Giuliani, President Trump’s personal lawyer,

declaring that department officials would not have met with Mr. Giuliani to discuss one of his clients had they known that federal prosecutors in New York were investigating two of his associates.

“When Mr. Benczkowski and fraud section lawyers met with Mr. Giuliani, they were not aware of any investigation of Mr. Giuliani’s associates in the Southern District of New York and would not have met with him had they known,” said Peter Carr, a department spokesman.

By declaring Giuliani too radioactive to touch, the DOJ has not only thrown Trump’s lawyer under the bus,

but they have made sure that a sizable chunk of Giuliani’s business just vanished.

Rudy Giuliani has been running around the world running a shadow foreign policy and also

selling himself (https://www.axios.com/trump-rudy-giuliani-shadow-foreign-policy-1abf0409-044d-4f9a-9085-49849fa72294.html)as someone who can influence agencies and departments in the Trump administration.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/10/20/doj-rudy-giuliani.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29

DMC

10-20-2019, 07:16 PM

It doesn't mean it appears a crime was committed.

He made a faulty inference.

What does it mean?

Spurminator

10-20-2019, 07:19 PM

Bad <> Illegal

You have to charge a specific crime before you investigate for a crime. This is why warrants exist.

boutons_deux

10-20-2019, 07:20 PM

Giuliani's 'proof' that Biden was corrupt was paid for by an indicted oligarch who funded Manafort (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/18/1893457/-Giuliani-s-proof-that-Biden-was-corrupt-was-paid-for-by-an-indicted-oligarch-who-funded-Manafort)

On broad terms, that scandal is how easily Donald Trump is manipulated by anyone appealing to either his ego or his pocketbook.

In a more narrow sense, there’s only a single scandal because

the same people behind the Russia scandal are also the ones that set up the Ukraine scandal.

The whole Russian scandal happened because Donald Trump and his associates were ready suckers for the idea that Russia had dirt on Hillary Clinton.

With the Ukraine scandal, it seems that the very same people took the very same approach, and Trump was still ready to bite.

If Giuliani didn’t know Firtash, he certainly knew a lot of people who did know the Ukrainian oligarch in exile.

In fact, he knew a lot of people who were being paid by Firtash, and

those people seem to have worked long and hard to create the conspiracy theories that Giulani trotted out to the Times. That includes

providing Giuliani with his one “witness” … who has since, rather inconveniently, retracted his story.
Giuliani’s associations with Firtash go way past happenstance, and miles beyond coincidence.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/18/1893457/-Giuliani-s-proof-that-Biden-was-corrupt-was-paid-for-by-an-indicted-oligarch-who-funded-Manafort?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/18/1893457/-Giuliani-s-proof-that-Biden-was-corrupt-was-paid-for-by-an-indicted-oligarch-who-funded-Manafort?detail=emaildkre)

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 07:40 PM

What does it mean?
Already posted.

Or were you asking what "inference" means?

DMC

10-20-2019, 08:38 PM

Bad <> Illegal

You have to charge a specific crime before you investigate for a crime. This is why warrants exist.

I keep seeing what bad optics doesn't mean. What does it mean?

DMC

10-20-2019, 08:39 PM

Already posted.

Or were you asking what "inference" means?

You said what it doesn't mean.

Where did you say what it does mean?

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 08:44 PM

:lmao DMC doesn't know what "bad optics" means.

What a fucking idiot.

Spurtacular

10-20-2019, 08:47 PM

What is the allegation?

Bidens paid money for influence. This isn't a tough one, Chump.

Spurtacular

10-20-2019, 08:48 PM

:lmao DMC doesn't know what "bad optics" means.

What a fucking idiot.

Do you think the optics are good for Biden, neutered Chump?

DMC

10-20-2019, 08:48 PM

Yes, optics bad. What crimes did he and Joe commit?

So you agree it appears bad. Should we investigate?

Investigate what?

What crimes are you alleging?

You said "Optics bad" then made the leap from "should we investigate" to "should we investigate a crime".

If you think the optics are bad, why are they bad? Why do you take issue with "so you agree it looks bad"?

If you agree it looks bad, what looks bad? Whatever it is, why wouldn't you want it investigated?

optics[ op-tiks ]SHOW IPA
EXAMPLES|WORD ORIGINSEE MORE SYNONYMS FOR optics ON THESAURUS.COM
noun
1. (used with a singular verb) the branch of physical science that deals with the properties and phenomena of both visible and invisible light and with vision.

2. (used with a plural verb) the way a situation, action, event, etc., is perceived by the public or by a particular group of people:
The optics on this issue are pretty good for the Democrats.
Administrators worry about the bad optics of hiring new staff during a budget crisis.

You said it. Now you want to shift the burden to someone to tell you why someone should be investigated. Maybe if you explain why the optics are bad you'll have your answer.

DMC

10-20-2019, 08:50 PM

:lmao DMC doesn't know what "bad optics" means.

What a fucking idiot.

I showed the definition to avoid your word wrangling games.

You still didn't say what you meant. Why are the optics bad?

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 08:53 PM

You said "Optics bad" then made the leap from "should we investigate" to "should we investigate a crime".

If you think the optics are bad, why are they bad? Why do you take issue with "so you agree it looks bad"?

If you agree it looks bad, what looks bad? Whatever it is, why wouldn't you want it investigated? Investigated by whom? Step up and say what YOU want to be investigated and by whom and why, tough guy.

You won't.

Because you're a little ankle biting bitch.

lol

Spurtacular

10-20-2019, 08:57 PM

Investigated by whom? Step up and say what YOU want to be investigated and by whom and why, tough guy.

You won't.

Because you're a little ankle biting bitch.

lol

Neutered Chump lashing out because he can't come to terms with Biden's corruption.

DMC

10-20-2019, 08:58 PM

Investigated by whom? Step up and say what YOU want to be investigated and by whom and why, tough guy.

You won't.

Because you're a little ankle biting bitch.

lol

You can easily explain why you think the optics are bad. Why haven't you?

Once we get that out of the way, we can discuss investigations.

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 09:02 PM

Dennison's stupid G7 stunt with his failing Doral resort was the worst optics and a real likely violation of the Constitution. That would've been completely worthy of an investigation by the appropriate authority.

Dennison's stupid quid pro quo demands from Ukraine were the worst optics and a real likely violation of campaign finance laws and the Constitution. That is completely worthy of an investigation by the appropriate authority.

What are you saying Hunter Biden did?

Chris

10-20-2019, 09:05 PM

pooplov :lol

DMC

10-20-2019, 09:07 PM

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 09:08 PM

You can easily explain why you think the optics are bad. Why haven't you?

Once we get that out of the way, we can discuss investigations.It looks like something bad could have happened.

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 09:08 PM

Why did you say "optics bad"?

Weren't you saying it looks bad? If so, why?What are you saying Hunter Biden did?

Step up, tough guy.

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 09:09 PM

pooplov :lolWhat are you saying Hunter Biden did?

DMC

10-20-2019, 09:14 PM

It looks like something bad could have happened.

Like what?

DMC

10-20-2019, 09:19 PM

What are you saying Hunter Biden did?

Step up, tough guy.

I haven't said anything about it. I'm still trying to figure out what it appears like to you, since you said it has bad optics.

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 09:19 PM

Like what?Nope, your turn. What are you saying should be investigated?

By whom?

Why?

Step up.

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 09:19 PM

I haven't said anything about it.And you never will. Good talk.

Spurtacular

10-20-2019, 09:19 PM

What are you saying Hunter Biden did?

Step up, tough guy.

Troglodyte Chump just doesn't know!

:lmao Today's neutered sperm shielder.

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 09:27 PM

Spurtacular

10-20-2019, 09:32 PM

To argue a criminal investigation should take place, it would be nice if you guys could step up and say what laws you say were broken during Biden's hiring and/or tenure at Burisma that would actually involve Biden.

If you're talking about a press investigation, that's already happened several times over. Wanna guess what they found?

No, you don't. You're gonna stay down.

Do you admit the Bidens are likely corrupt for starters?

Don't answer if you're too neutered and have already STEPPED DOWN.

:rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin

DMC

10-20-2019, 09:46 PM

Nope, your turn. What are you saying should be investigated?

By whom?

Why?

Step up.

I cannot know until you tell me why it looks bad. If you know why it looks bad, then you know the answer already.

DMC

10-20-2019, 09:50 PM

Chris

10-20-2019, 10:10 PM

pooplov :lol

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 10:20 PM

Conclusion:

This seems pretty cut and dry. If the optics are bad there's a reason. If someone is willing to acknowledge the 1st and then balk at specifying the 2nd, the optics are bad on that as well.

:lol Pavlov the forum fiddleSo investigate what?

DMC can't think of one thing to investigate.

Therefore he can't demand an investigation.

:lol DMC stays down.

:lol investigate the optics!

Pretty cut and dry.

Spurs Homer

10-20-2019, 10:21 PM

So no crimes...

just accusations that the bidens MIGHT be as corrupt as the trump criminal spawn

i got no problem with the bidens being investigated along with the trump crime family

Pavlov

10-20-2019, 10:23 PM

So no crimes...

just accusations that the bidens MIGHT be as corrupt as the trump criminal spawn

i got no problem with the bidens being investigated along with the trump crime familyUkraine says he committed no crime.

The US says he committed no crime.

Not even any suspicion from either.

What is there to investigate?
This is the kind of shit that makes DMC furious.

FuzzyLumpkins

10-21-2019, 12:41 AM

Ukraine says he committed no crime.

The US says he committed no crime.

Not even any suspicion from either.

What is there to investigate?
This is the kind of shit that makes DMC furious.

But Schweizer's book makes it look bad!

IMF, NATO, and the EU wanted the prosecutor Biden asked to be removed gone because of corruption standards for entry into either body and stipulations for aid:

Biden’s brand of tough love became more pronounced as the old ways of Ukrainian politics resumed. Despite a series of measures to increase government transparency and salvage the country’s teetering economy, Kiev began to slow — and in some cases completely halt — carrying out anti-corruption reforms.

Public dissatisfaction was growing in late 2015 with Poroshenko’s choice for general prosecutor: Viktor Shokin, a veteran of Ukrainian politics and a close associate of the president. Shokin fumbled the corruption case of a former Yanukovych crony and let him flee the country.

The position of general prosecutor, who is appointed by the president, enjoys outsized importance in Ukraine and is often used to exert pressure on rivals and cut deals for political and commercial gains. The Maidan revolution was supposed to bring an end to this type of horse-trading, but Shokin served as a reminder that little had changed. He reinforced that perception by hindering an investigation into two high-ranking state prosecutors arrested on corruption charges and after Economy Minister Aivaras Abromavicius cited him by name before quitting in protest over the delayed reforms.

Dismayed by Poroshenko’s backtracking, the White House withheld $1 billion in loan guarantees until Shokin was fired. Biden delivered that message directly to Poroshenko over the phone.

“‘Petro, you’re not getting your billion dollars,’” Biden recalled telling the president in an interview with the Atlantic. “‘It’s OK, you can keep the [prosecutor] general. Just understand—we’re not paying if you do.’”

Poroshenko eventually sacked Shokin. But the Ukrainian leader’s reputation in Washington — and in Ukraine — soured as a result, and his approval ratings have hovered close to a dismal 10 percent ever since.

“It’s hard to root out corruption in your system if the equivalent of the attorney general is not only corrupt but has a bunch of corrupt cronies in other positions and is actively thwarting investigations of oligarchs and government officials,” the senior U.S. administration official said. “Removing Shokin was a necessary — if not wholly sufficient — factor in continuing Ukraine on the reform path.”

https://foreignpolicy.com/2016/10/30/what-will-ukraine-do-without-joe-biden-putin-war-kiev-clinton-trump/

And FP is hardly a liberal rag.

FuzzyLumpkins

10-21-2019, 12:43 AM

In December 2015, Biden gave an impassioned address to the Rada, the parliament, to condemn the scourge of corruption and demand reform of the prosecutor general’s office.

“The parliament exploded in applause,” Boryslav Bereza, who was present, recalled this week. “Even those who were corrupt as hell, they were electrified and sincere in their applause.”

Biden “was like the big brother coming to tell the little brother what to do — a recommendation that you can’t ignore,” Bereza said.

The vice president had planned to announce $1 billion in U.S. loan guarantees for Ukraine. But en route to Kyiv on Air Force Two, Biden changed his mind.

Poroshenko was dragging his feet building the institutions needed to take on corruption, aides said. Biden and his staff rewrote the speech, removing the loan guarantees.

In Kyiv, Biden privately informed Poroshenko of the decision and the demand: Fire Shokin, or you lose the loan guarantees.

“Poroshenko was clearly disappointed,” said Colin Kahl, Biden’s national security advisor at the time.

In an interview, Poroshenko recalled “heated” but cordial discussions with Biden.

He said the loan guarantees were contingent on meeting International Monetary Fund benchmarks, including replacing the prosecutor general. Biden was not alone in his demands, Poroshenko said.

“Pressure on us came from everywhere: the activists, political forces, embassies, international organizations,” he said, adding that the names of Hunter Biden and Burisma never came up.

https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2019-10-05/bidens-visits-to-ukraine-under-scrutiny

FuzzyLumpkins

10-21-2019, 12:46 AM

EU diplomats working on Ukraine at the time have, however, told the FT that they were looking for ways to persuade Kiev to remove Mr Shokin well before Mr Biden entered the picture. The push for Mr Shokin’s removal was part of an international effort to bolster Ukraine’s institutions following Russia’s annexation of Crimea and the armed conflict in the eastern part of the country.

“All of us were really pushing [former Ukrainian president Petro] Poroshenko that he needs to do something, because the prosecutor was not following any of the corruption issues. He was really bad news,” said an EU diplomat involved in the discussions. “It was Biden who finally came in [and triggered it]. Biden was the most vocal, as the US usually is. But we were all literally complaining about the prosecutor.”

https://www.ft.com/content/e1454ace-e61b-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc

DMC

10-21-2019, 07:30 AM

Journalists good now

DMC

10-21-2019, 07:31 AM

Pavlov

10-21-2019, 07:41 AM

All that and you say the optics are bad.Yep.

What do you want to be investigated?

Step up.

DMC

10-21-2019, 07:50 AM

Yep.

What do you want to be investigated?

Step up.

Whatever you think looks bad.

DMC

10-21-2019, 07:59 AM

Pavlov

10-21-2019, 08:05 AM

Whatever you think looks bad.It's got nothing to do with me. What do YOU think should be investigated, by whom and why? Step up.

Spurs Homer

10-21-2019, 08:28 AM

Ukraine says he committed no crime.

The US says he committed no crime.

Not even any suspicion from either.

What is there to investigate?
This is the kind of shit that makes DMC furious.

agreed 100%

only reason im ok with investigating- is to show the difference between standing up for the rule of law

when you know you have followed the law - there is no fear of any investigation

but you never see trumpers openly calling for transparency, taxes released, trump testifying under oath,etc

Pavlov

10-21-2019, 08:35 AM

agreed 100%

only reason im ok with investigating- is to show the difference between standing up for the rule of law

when you know you have followed the law - there is no fear of any investigation

but you never see trumpers openly calling for transparency, taxes released, trump testifying under oath,etcAs far as I can tell, it's all been investigated already. Had someone like Schweizer or

S:loll:lolm:loln found something that was actually bad, we'd already know about it.

Spurs Homer

10-21-2019, 08:42 AM

As far as I can tell, it's all been investigated already. Had someone like Schweizer or

S:loll:lolm:loln found something that was actually bad, we'd already know about it.

yup

the question that matters is;

”what exactly $$$ - did trump get from putin and/or erdogan for pulling our troops out overnight without any consultation with any usa officials, experts, military commanders, congress - anyone- and betraying our ally?”

yeah- they won’t care about real corruption

Pavlov

10-21-2019, 08:50 AM

yup

the question that matters is;

”what exactly $$$ - did trump get from putin and/or erdogan for pulling our troops out overnight without any consultation with any usa officials, experts, military commanders, congress - anyone- and betraying our ally?”

yeah- they won’t care about real corruptionI still believe one or more foreign governments has kompromat on Dennison, but at this point I would believe he's so stupid that he would betray the Kurds and ruin what was left of the US reputation in the region just to get Erdogan off the phone.

Spurs Homer

10-21-2019, 09:12 AM

I still believe one or more foreign governments has kompromat on Dennison, but at this point I would believe he's so stupid that he would betray the Kurds and ruin what was left of the US reputation in the region just to get Erdogan off the phone.

you might be right - and it would not shock me-

but i think the idiot has accomplished something bordering on genius- knowingly or unknowingly;

he has “jedi mind-fucked” the media, democrats, republicans, cult members, the DOJ- fucking everyone-

into treating his behavior as if it was coming from a 5 year old child.

Every thing he does - Gets a pass and everyone scrambles to invent a reason why maybe he didnt “understand” his blatant criminality/fuckery

he knows exactly what he is doing
he knows exactly what laws he broke when he conspired with russia
(he knew exactly how to manipulate rosenstein and barr into tying muellers hands)
he knows exactly how much he profited from the saudis $$$ when he protected the saudi murderer
he knows exactly why he cannot show his taxes
he knows exactly why he cannot allow congress to have any witness, any document, any testimony

boutons_deux

10-21-2019, 09:51 AM

Winehole23

10-21-2019, 10:16 AM

Manafort and Giuliani both work(ed) for Trump without pay, one wonders what's in it for them.

Be advised that Messrs. Parnas and Fruman assisted Mr. Giuliani in connection with his representation of President Trump. Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman have also been represented by Mr. Giuliani in connection with their personal and business affairs. They also assisted Joseph DiGenova and Victoria Toensing in their law practice. Thus, certain information you seek in your September 30, 2019, letter is protected by the attorney-client, attorney work product and other privileges.https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/10/12/the-presidents-joint-defense-agreement-with-the-russian-mob/

boutons_deux

10-21-2019, 10:27 AM

Manafort and Giuliani both work(ed) for Trump without pay, one wonders what's in it for them.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2019/10/12/the-presidents-joint-defense-agreement-with-the-russian-mob/

both were in the "selling influence and access" games before Trash was a candidate, working in the seedy corrupt seams of international business, esp Julie Annie building on his 9/11 America's Mayor fairy tale (ask NYFD).

I assume both were counting on being associated with so-called President Trash to continue their corrupt influence/access scams.

boutons_deux

10-21-2019, 11:30 AM

Team Trump’s efforts to spin Mulvaney’s quid pro quo confession are not going well

Mick Mulvaney and Mike Pompeo had a rough go of it on the Sunday news shows.

Trump White House has had difficulty finding a cohesive response (https://www.vox.com/2019/10/18/20920715/trump-dallas-rally-impeachment-pushback-schiff) to House Democrats’ impeachment inquiry,

but acting chief of staff Mick Mulvaney had a particularly rough time on Fox News on Sunday

his efforts to spin those comments, ... were still laughably weak.

Mulvaney insisted, absurdly, that he did not in fact confirm there was a quid pro quo with Ukraine because he didn’t literally use the phrase “quid pro quo.”

“Reporters will use their language all the time, so, my language never said ‘quid pro quo,’”

there’s no denying he confirmed there was one.

What is problematic, however, is why the administration held up the aid.

Mulvaney’s comments seemed to confirm the

Trump administration hijacked foreign policy

into something akin to an opposition research operation for the president’s reelection campaign

by trying to get the Ukrainian government to investigate conspiracy theories involving Democrats and the Bidens (https://www.vox.com/2019/9/25/20883373/trump-crowdstrike-ukraine-call-explained).

The comments also

lent credence to a whistleblower complaint about Trump’s dealings with Ukraine that resulted in an impeachment inquiry.

https://www.vox.com/2019/10/21/20924687/mick-mulvaney-fox-news-sunday-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-mike-pompeo-this-week (https://www.vox.com/2019/10/21/20924687/mick-mulvaney-fox-news-sunday-ukraine-quid-pro-quo-mike-pompeo-this-week)

DMC

10-21-2019, 11:51 AM

VOX!!!! :lol

Chris

10-21-2019, 12:16 PM

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1186286744196538370?s=19

boutons_deux

10-21-2019, 10:34 PM

CNN’s Toobin says all evidence points to Trump running an extortion scheme for political dirt

even the evidence Trump himself has put forward to the public voluntarily.

, if it begins with the call from Putin, but there certainly is a lot of activity, a lot of dominos falling.”

“Especially when you combine this with what’s come out in the depositions in Congress,”

there is all this activity led by Giuliani, which is about, you know, limiting our cooperation with the new president unless he comes across with the dirt on Biden. So it’s all going on at the same time.”

But the thing about all the evidence is that it all fits together.

I mean, it all fits together in an explanation that

the president just didn’t want anything to do with Ukraine unless they could come across with dirt, and

every piece of evidence that has come forward in the depositions and certainly in the partial transcript that we’ve all seen many times,

it all points in the same direction.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/cnns-toobin-says-all-evidence-points-to-trump-running-an-extortion-scheme-for-political-dirt/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/cnns-toobin-says-all-evidence-points-to-trump-running-an-extortion-scheme-for-political-dirt/)

DMC

10-21-2019, 10:57 PM

RAWSTORY!!!! :lol

boutons_deux

10-21-2019, 11:58 PM

Vladimir Putin helped convince Trump to sour on Ukraine

Russian Federation President Vladimir Putin successfully convinced President Donald Trump to turn on Ukraine

“President Trump’s effort to pressure Ukraine for information he could use against political rivals came

as he was being urged to adopt a hostile view of that country by its regional adversaries,

including Russian President Vladi#mir Putin,”

“Trump’s conversations with Putin, Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban and others

reinforced his perception of Ukraine as a hopelessly corrupt country —

one that Trump now also appears to believe sought to undermine him in the 2016 U.S. election, the officials said,”

their disparaging depictions of Ukraine reinforced Trump’s perceptions of the country and

fed a dysfunctional dynamic in which

White House officials struggled to persuade Trump to support the fledgling government in Kyiv instead of exploiting it for political purposes,”

the role of Putin and Orban was described in closed-door congressional testimony by former Deputy Assistant Secretary of State George Kent.

“Kent cited the influence of those leaders as a factor that helped sour Trump on Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in the months leading up to their July 25 phone call

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/vladimir-putin-helped-convince-trump-to-sour-on-ukraine-report/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/vladimir-putin-helped-convince-trump-to-sour-on-ukraine-report/)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/putin-and-hungarys-orban-helped-sour-trump-on-ukraine/2019/10/21/a0af1e9c-f40b-11e9-ad8b-85e2aa00b5ce_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/putin-and-hungarys-orban-helped-sour-trump-on-ukraine/2019/10/21/a0af1e9c-f40b-11e9-ad8b-85e2aa00b5ce_story.html)

Trash in his ignorance is such a pushover for much more sophisticated operators who twiddle him around their little fingers.

boutons_deux

10-23-2019, 05:02 PM

Trump ambassador Gordon Sondland could face a criminal perjury referral after bombshell testimony

the possibility that U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland may have broken the law in his previous testimony to Congress.

Sondland, who texts show was a key figure in Trump’s efforts to get Ukraine to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, downplayed his role and his knowledge of the scheme in testimony to lawmakers last week.

If he lied in this testimony, he could be open to criminal charges.

And after hearing Taylor’s testimony on Tuesday, some Democrats were sent signals that Sondland’s testimony may now be in doubt.

“After today, Mr. Sondland is going to have some explaining to do,”

“One Democrat lawmaker says Amb. Sondland may indeed be facing a criminal referral for perjury.”

Taylor’s testimony placed Sondland much more at the center of the Ukraine scheme than Sondland himself had indicated.

It does seem that Sondland tried to skirt around the truth with his statement.

Perhaps the most dangerous territory for Sondland is when

he claimed he does not “recall taking part in any effort to encourage an investigation into the Bidens.”

Taylor’s testimony strongly indicated that Sondland did repeatedly take part in this effort.

etc

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trump-ambassador-gordon-sondland-could-face-a-criminal-perjury-referral-after-bombshell-testimony-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2779

Winehole23

10-23-2019, 05:22 PM

RAWSTORY!!!! :lolLooks like RAWSTORY!!! :lol got it more or less right.

Winehole23

10-24-2019, 12:17 AM

That's quite the coincidence

While questions in Washington swirl around Shokin's role in this controversy, Giuliani, Parnas, Fruman had specific plans for the former Ukrainian official up until the day of their arrest. According to those four sources, they told others they were headed to Vienna to help with a planned interview the next day: Shokin, they said, was scheduled to do an interview from the Austrian capital with Sean Hannity.https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/10/23/politics/parnas-fruman-hustle-profit-access-giuliani/index.html

boutons_deux

10-24-2019, 12:07 PM

Trump had a third unofficial source of Ukraine documents—a former aide to Devin Nunes

Kashyap Patel ... he’s high on Donald Trump’s list of favorites.

He may also represent another back channel to Ukraine who, like Rudy Giuliani,

was feeding Trump a stream of misinformation and conspiracy theories designed to warp U.S. policy.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/23/1894547/-Trump-had-a-third-unofficial-source-of-Ukraine-documents-a-former-aide-to-Devin-Nunes (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/23/1894547/-Trump-had-a-third-unofficial-source-of-Ukraine-documents-a-former-aide-to-Devin-Nunes)

============

White House Aides Feared That Trump Had Another Ukraine Back Channel

Senior national security officials grew concerned about Kash Patel,

a colleague who had been involved in Republicans’ efforts to undermine the Russia investigation.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/23/us/politics/kash-patel-ukraine.html

boutons_deux

10-24-2019, 02:47 PM

Pentagon official corroborated damning quid-pro-quo testimony against Trump

Pentagon official Laura Cooper testified on Wednesday at the House of Representatives’ impeachment inquiry (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/were-getting-crushed-white-house-staff-panicking-as-trumps-inner-circle-battles-over-impeachment-defense/), and one reporter says that

she largely corroborated the damning testimony delivered by ambassador Bill Taylor.

Kate Brannen, the managing editor at Just Security and a former reporter at Foreign Policy and Politico, says her

sources claim that Cooper told House investigators that

“there was unanimous support from Trump’s Cabinet and the interagency to supply Ukraine with security assistance”

but “the White House withheld it anyway.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/pentagon-official-corroborated-damning-quid-pro-quo-testimony-against-trump-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2797

boutons_deux

10-24-2019, 10:21 PM

William Barr must recuse himself from Ukraine probe, New York City Bar Association says

The Bar Association (https://www.nycbar.org/media-listing/media/detail/attorney-general-barr-should-recuse-himself-from-department-of-justice-review-of-ukraine-matter), in a statement Wednesday laying out its case for recusal, said:

"As White House records made clear, the president told his Ukrainian counterpart, Volodymyr Zelensky, that Mr. Barr

"would be in touch with him" to follow up on the president's requests.

The whistleblower found this telephone call to be of "urgent concern"

because of the president's apparent intermingling of U.S. foreign policy interests with his personal political interests in apparent violation of U.S. law."

the association raised concerns about whether Barr had knowledge of promises made by Trump in the phone call.

In addition, the association said

Barr "was obligated to recuse himself from any involvement in DOJ's review of either the whistleblower complaint of the substance of the president's actions

once the president offered Mr. Barr's services to President Zelensky."

Barr's Office of Legal Counsel (OLC), ... advised ...

to forgo forwarding the whistleblower's complaint to Congress,

despite Michael Atkinson, intelligence community inspector general, saying it was credible and of “urgent concern."

Barr "appears to have participated in the DOJ review of the whistleblower's complaint and

its decision not to forward that complaint to Congress" and

his failure to recuse himself endangers the DOJ's "impartiality in the investigation of the Ukraine Matter."

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/william-barr-must-recuse-himself-from-ukraine-probe-new-york-city-bar-association-says

Any bets whether Tom Hagen recuses his fucking corrupt self? Trash wouldn't be happy. :lol

boutons_deux

10-25-2019, 10:43 AM

Giuliani finally seeks criminal defense attorney, and former prosecutors say he’s gonna need one (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/24/1894811/-Giuliani-finally-seeks-criminal-defense-attorney-and-former-prosecutors-say-he-s-gonna-need-one)

On Oct. 15, Rudolph W. Giuliani, the personal attorney of Donald J. Trump,

released a statement (https://twitter.com/RudyGiuliani/status/1184204275267854338?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1184204275267854338&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fsecondnexus.com%2Fnews%2Frud y-giuliani-sale-need-a-lawyer%2F)saying that he was refusing to comply with a congressional subpoena and that

he would not participate in the impeachment inquiry.

The letter was signed by his then-attorney, John Sale, but

Giuliani noted that Sale would no longer be representing him, and that, furthermore,

he didn’t need an attorney at all.

He even said it was “silly” (https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-rudy-giuliani-impeachement-jon-sale-20191015-g7cxs2i4hjetfnjkozgwrspcoq-story.html) to think he would need one.

the former mayor is actively shopping for a criminal defense attorney after all.

And he’s going to need a good one,

because his legal troubles related to his work in Ukraine and his efforts to interfere in the 2020 election are mounting.

Former U.S. attorneys Barbara McQuade and Joyce Vance made the case against Giuliani in

a mock indictment outlined at justsecurity.org. (https://www.justsecurity.org/66705/united-states-of-america-v-rudolph-w-giuliani/)
Based on the evidence and testimony presented thus far,

McQuade and Vance believe there are three serious charges Giuliani could face:

conspiracy to defraud the United States;

conspiracy to commit bribery; and

contempt of Congress.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/24/1894811/-Giuliani-finally-seeks-criminal-defense-attorney-and-former-prosecutors-say-he-s-gonna-need-one?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/24/1894811/-Giuliani-finally-seeks-criminal-defense-attorney-and-former-prosecutors-say-he-s-gonna-need-one?detail=emaildkre)

TheGreatYacht

10-26-2019, 11:54 AM

Hunter Biden Cries When Asked About Ukraine Corruption

https://youtu.be/CwexVY4nFUg

boutons_deux

10-30-2019, 09:15 AM

Trump angrily insisted

he was smart enough :lol

to do a crime with Ukraine:

‘I would’ve done the damn quid pro quo’

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/trump-angrily-insisted-he-was-smart-enough-to-do-a-crime-with-ukraine-i-wouldve-done-the-damn-quid-pro-quo/

He actually did the qpq and still isn't "smart enough" to know it :lol

Winehole23

10-30-2019, 10:00 AM

Trump doesn't get that when you become the gangster, in fact the global gangster par excellence, the President of the USA...

...you don't have to act like a gangster anymore.

Trump is bad at this game.

boutons_deux

10-30-2019, 10:06 AM

Trash figures that his pressure/extortion of Z for political delivery against Biden was not wrong, because that's how he has always worked, and now he's President, a billionaire, so what's the problem?

boutons_deux

10-31-2019, 07:16 AM

Transcript Of Trump Call Was Moved To Secure Server After Aide Voiced Concerns

White House lawyer John Eisenberg reportedly suggested the call be placed on a server usually reserved for highly classified intelligence.

moved to a highly secure server usually reserved for state secrets (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/white-house-classified-computer-system.html?module=inline)

usually reserved for code-word level intelligence (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/white-house-classified-computer-system.html?module=inline) but not transcripts of diplomatic discussions.

The Post noted that the account was the first direct link between Eisenberg and the decision to store the transcript on the server.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-ukraine-transcript-moved_n_5dba4ec5e4b0bb1ea37476e5?ncid=newsltushpmg news

Eisenberg recognized Trash's perfect call was a Federal crime that had to be COVERED UP

pgardn

10-31-2019, 07:40 AM

you might be right - and it would not shock me-

but i think the idiot has accomplished something bordering on genius- knowingly or unknowingly;

he has “jedi mind-fucked” the media, democrats, republicans, cult members, the DOJ- fucking everyone-

into treating his behavior as if it was coming from a 5 year old child.

Every thing he does - Gets a pass and everyone scrambles to invent a reason why maybe he didnt “understand” his blatant criminality/fuckery

he knows exactly what he is doing
he knows exactly what laws he broke when he conspired with russia
(he knew exactly how to manipulate rosenstein and barr into tying muellers hands)
he knows exactly how much he profited from the saudis $$$ when he protected the saudi murderer
he knows exactly why he cannot show his taxes
he knows exactly why he cannot allow congress to have any witness, any document, any testimony

Sorry.
Things DO NOT get a pass if you are ignorant AND President.
If he knew exactly what he was doing with Ukraine, he had no clue about the possible consequences. Releasing and admitting that he had performed the act was the height of punching oneself in the face. He royally fucked up. Just because he now has his party scrambling for him does not mean he is a brilliant strategist.

pgardn

10-31-2019, 07:42 AM

Every politican who has family and friends fall into cushy jobs should be scrutinized.

boutons_deux

10-31-2019, 08:22 AM

Every politican who has family and friends fall into cushy jobs should be scrutinized.

yawn, corruption in the political/business class is what make them become politicians and businesspeople. MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY MONEY

Insider dealing by Congress was legal until a few years ago, but I'm sure Trash, the Exec branch, and Congress are passing insider info to proxies.

Some traders who won huge bets on Trash's bullshit, tweets, policies are being investigated.

CosmicCowboy

10-31-2019, 08:22 AM

Like with "butter emails" and "benghazi",

Biden/son "corruption" case is fabricated bullshit, slander, by Repugs and all The Usual Suspects in the rightwing hate media, to attack Trash's probably candidate.

The real corruption is with Trash and his mafiya, with his corrupt capo Julie Annie working with even more corrupt Ukraine criminals.

Boo, you would have credibility if you were actually able to admit when someone on "your side" did something shady. It might not have been illegal but Burisma in Ukraine and the Bank of China/BHR deals with Joe's crackhead son were clearly attempts to buy influence with Papa Joe whether it actually worked or not.

boutons_deux

10-31-2019, 08:31 AM

Boo, you would have credibility if you were actually able to admit when someone on "your side" did something shady. It might not have been illegal but Burisma in Ukraine and the Bank of China/BHR deals with Joe's crackhead son were clearly attempts to buy influence with Papa Joe whether it actually worked or not.

influence peddling/seeking, quid pro quos, back scratching, insider info, cheating, fraud, back stabbing, bad faith, double-crossing is what make politics and business function. Apparently, hedge funds run almost completely on insider info.

Whatever Hunter Biden did may be illegal, but illegality rules, OK,

and has nothing to do with your boy Trash using taxpayer $100Ms to screw one of his political rivals.

CosmicCowboy

10-31-2019, 08:47 AM

influence peddling/seeking, quid pro quos, back scratching, insider info, cheating, fraud, back stabbing, bad faith, double-crossing is what make politics and business function. Apparently, hedge funds run almost completely on insider info.

Whatever Hunter Biden did may be illegal, but illegality rules, OK,

and has nothing to do with your boy Trash using taxpayer $100Ms to screw one of his political rivals.

Trump is not "my boy" Boo. That's just more of your demented misinformation. Zero Cred.

boutons_deux

10-31-2019, 09:16 AM

Spurs Homer

10-31-2019, 10:17 AM

Sorry.
Things DO NOT get a pass if you are ignorant AND President.
If he knew exactly what he was doing with Ukraine, he had no clue about the possible consequences. Releasing and admitting that he had performed the act was the height of punching oneself in the face. He royally fucked up. Just because he now has his party scrambling for him does not mean he is a brilliant strategist.

you are overthinking it

let me help you

you MUST put your mindset to “how would a criminal think/how would a criminal approach it”

anytime he commits his crimes/fuckery

he released his “transcript” for this reason;

he scrubbed what he thought was the crime - directed his minions to hide/bury the really bad shit

and

released the least serious crime he committed

he will hide the entire call (the entire 32 minutes) with the same fervor he hides his taxes

in other words “the criminal did what criminals do when caught- he tried to cover up as best he could”

none of this has anything to do with him just being incompetent or unaware of right and wrong
he knew what he was doing was wrong

this is why he had julie-yanni run a shadow foreign policy and this is why he bullied all the career professionals
and got rid of the “bad apple” fiona hill

pompeo had bullied the state dept and thought he could muscle his subordinates into staying silent to cover up the crimes
but he didnt count on patriots standing up and honoring their oath

CosmicCowboy

10-31-2019, 11:08 AM

Donald Trump Jr. :lol

tells Fox News he wishes his dad was famous so he could score millions

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/donald-trump-jr-tells-fox-news-he-wishes-his-dad-was-famous-so-he-could-make-millions/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2844

... Jared and Ivanka have "scored" $100Ms, but that's OK with Kosmic Parasite

Ivanka's china patents (for a company she closed) is the only thing I have heard of that was obviously questionable. Please tell me how they have made hundreds of millions off of being related to Trump

boutons_deux

10-31-2019, 11:33 AM

Ivanka's china patents (for a company she closed) is the only thing I have heard of that was obviously questionable. Please tell me how they have made hundreds of millions off of being related to Trump

Jared got many $100M loan from Bahrain? to save his wimpy ass on the 666 5th Avenue bldg

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/03/nyregion/kushners-building-fifth-avenue-brookfield-lease.html

Also, their un-divested, security clearance asses combined had about $100M in revenue.

no doubt, Jared used his inside security info to guide his business decisions

boutons_deux

11-01-2019, 12:50 PM

Ukraine's military aid wasn't the only thing the Trump administration held up. Democrats want info (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/31/1896298/-Ukraine-s-military-aid-wasn-t-the-only-thing-the-Trump-administration-held-up-Democrats-want-info)

Ukraine’s participation in the “generalized system of preferences” program,

which allows developing nations to avoid import tariffs on some products,

had been partially suspended by the Trump administration in 2017 due to concerns about digital piracy and intellectual property violations.

Over the summer, Lighthizer recommended restoring Ukraine’s participation by one-third because the country had addressed some of the concerns that had led to its suspension.

But then-national security adviser John Bolton warned him that Trump would reject the move,

and Lighthizer withdrew the recommendation.

After The Washington Post reported on that about-face, Wyden and Menendez followed up.

They want to hear from Lighthizer about any discussions of U.S.-Ukraine trade he might have had with Trump or with Rudy Giuliani or Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland,

One-third of the GSP benefits were restored to Ukraine just last week.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/31/1896298/-Ukraine-s-military-aid-wasn-t-the-only-thing-the-Trump-administration-held-up-Democrats-want-info?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/10/31/1896298/-Ukraine-s-military-aid-wasn-t-the-only-thing-the-Trump-administration-held-up-Democrats-want-info?detail=emaildkre)

Winehole23

11-01-2019, 03:06 PM

They did it first, love song of those who got caught.

boutons_deux

11-06-2019, 10:36 AM

Newly revealed Trump letter promises ‘unwavering’ support for Ukraine — as Giuliani was cooking up shakedown scheme

President Donald Trump promised “unwavering” support to Ukraine —

even as his attorney Rudy Giuliani was undertaking efforts to pressure the country’s newly elected president to investigate anti-Democratic conspiracy theories.

The U.S. president sent a letter May 29 that

contradicted his back-channel efforts to hold military aid and a White House visit

as leverage over Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky in exchange for political assistance,

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/newly-revealed-trump-letter-promises-unwavering-support-for-ukraine-as-giuliani-was-cooking-up-shakedown-scheme/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2897&recip_id=298460&list_id=1 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/newly-revealed-trump-letter-promises-unwavering-support-for-ukraine-as-giuliani-was-cooking-up-shakedown-scheme/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2897&recip_id=298460&list_id=1)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-letter-promised-zelensky-unwavering-support-invited-him-to-white-house?ref=home (https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-letter-promised-zelensky-unwavering-support-invited-him-to-white-house?ref=home)

boutons_deux

11-06-2019, 12:24 PM

THE PERSISTENT INFLUENCE OF TRUMP’S “SHADOW ADVISER” ERIK PRINCE

THE WALL STREET JOURNALreported (https://www.wsj.com/articles/security-contractor-erik-prince-is-in-talks-to-acquire-ukraines-motor-sich-11572949809?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/3LlZC0ETNp) on Tuesday that the Trump administration approached Blackwater founder and Trump shadow adviser

Erik Prince about potentially buying a Ukrainian aerospace company that the U.S. government wants

to prevent the Chinese government from acquiring.

“Motor Sich is a leading maker of helicopter and airplane engines and the U.S. wants to scuttle its pending sale to a group of Chinese companies to keep Beijing from acquiring vital defense technology,” according to the report.

“A U.S. government official sought out Mr. Prince in Washington earlier this year.

Mr. Prince expressed interest in Motor Sich, as long as the company remained a Ukrainian entity and he could receive its client list, the U.S. official said.”

Prince is an interesting choice if the White House wanted to prevent China from acquiring the firm.

Prince’s latest venture, Frontier Services Group, is a Hong Kong-based company and

largely controlled by the Chinese government’s powerful investment arm. :lol

https://theintercept.com/2019/11/05/erik-prince-trump-ukraine-china/

WTF

boutons_deux

11-06-2019, 10:19 PM

Trump wanted Barr to hold news conference saying the president broke no laws in call with Ukrainian leader

The president has mentioned Barr’s demurral to associates in recent weeks, saying he wished Barr would have held the news conference,

the Justice Department has sought some distance from the White House, particularly on matters relating to the burgeoning controversy over Trump’s dealings on Ukraine and the impeachment inquiry they sparked.

those close to the administration also concede that the department has made several recent maneuvers putting it at odds with the White House at a particularly precarious time for the president.

From the moment the administration released the rough transcript, Barr made clear that whatever the president was up to, he was not a party to it.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-wanted-barr-to-hold-news-conference-saying-the-president-broke-no-laws-in-call-with-ukrainian-leader/2019/11/06/16d541ec-ff55-11e9-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-wanted-barr-to-hold-news-conference-saying-the-president-broke-no-laws-in-call-with-ukrainian-leader/2019/11/06/16d541ec-ff55-11e9-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html)

hater

11-07-2019, 07:06 AM

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-zlochevskiy-palace/26707701.html

boutons_deux

11-07-2019, 07:11 AM

Hilarious that Repugs' LIES say Trash was only fighting corruption in Ukraine,

when the Repugs are wealthily enjoying their own corruption.

hater

11-07-2019, 10:39 AM

updating the OP soon with more data and adding resource ma nigs. this is getting real

hater

11-07-2019, 10:53 AM

couldn't update the OP so here is the new list....

ACTORS:
Joe Biden - VP of the USA
Hunter Biden - Son of Joe Biden
Mykola Zlochevsky - Owner of Burisma and boss of Hunter Biden
Victor Shokin - Then Prosecutor General of Ukraine

- 2008: Joe Biden is elected VP

- May 2013: Hunter joins Navy reserves
- February 2014: Hunter discharged due to cocaine use. He claimed he involuntarily ingested cocaine but did not fight d discharge
https://www.wsj.com/articles/bidens-son-hunter-discharged-from-navy-reserve-after-failing-cocaine-test-1413499657

- February 2014: US sponsors coup in Ukraine and helps install new government

- March 2014: EU blocks funds for several Ukranian oligarchs including Zlochevsky
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-zlocevskiy-zlocci-shoe-store/27163483.html

- May 2014: Hunter joins Burisma, Ukraines biggest gas producer board of directors. Despite having zero knowledge of business, gas or Ukraine
- 2014-2019: Hunter receives 50k a month from Burism a despite seldom even visiting Ukraine
- August 2014 - Ukraine opens corruption investigation on Burisma
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/12/the-money-machine-how-a-high-profile-corruption-investigation-fell-apart

- Nov 2014 - U.S. government organ RFERL publishes a video report showing one of Zlochevsky's palaces near Kiev. It notes the Hunter Biden connection.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-zlochevskiy-palace/26707701.html

- 2015 - Zlochevsky is put on Ukraine's most-wanted list for alleged economic crimes. Zlochevsky leaves Ukraine
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-zlocevskiy-zlocci-shoe-store/27163483.html

- Feb 2015 - Victor Shokin nominated as Prosecutor General of Ukraine

- Feb, Jul 2015 - Hunter Biden meets multiple times then-Deputy Secretary of State Tony Blinken, a former national security adviser to Joe Biden who was promoted to the No. 2 job at State under then-Secretary John Kerry.
https://johnsolomonreports.com/hunter-bidens-ukraine-gas-firm-pressed-obama-administration-to-end-corruption-allegations-memos-show/

- Jul 2015 - Ukraine's prosecutor general issues an arrest warrant against Zlochevsky.
https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-zlocevskiy-zlocci-shoe-store/27163483.html

- 2015: US and Joe Biden pressure Ukraine to fire Prosecutor General, for according to them, being weak/slow on corruption investigations

- Feb 2016 - Shokin confiscates several large properties and a Rolls-Royce Phantom owned by Zlochevsky.
https://en.interfax.com.ua/news/general/322395.html

- March 2016: Viktor Shokin Ukraine Prosecutor General is fired. He claims he is fired because he was investigating Burism a, but his 2nd in command denies that saying the Burisma investigation was "dormant"

- Sept 2016: Corruption case against Burisma is closed

- 2016: Hunter gets a gun pointed at his head while buying crack cocaine

- June 2016- Hunter Biden joins Zlochevsky at a Burisma organized event in Morocco.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/12/the-money-machine-how-a-high-profile-corruption-investigation-fell-apart

- 2017: Hunter crashes a rental vehicle and police find a Crack pipe in d car

- January 2018: Joe Biden boasts that he blackmailed Ukraine out of 1 billion dollars unless they fire Prosecutor General Victor Shokin

boutons_deux

11-07-2019, 11:01 AM

Trump appears to accidentally confirm key detail in report on asking Barr to lie about Ukraine

“Bill Barr did not decline my request to talk about Ukraine,” :lol

Trump said, appearing to confirm the request was made. :lol

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-appears-to-accidentally-confirm-key-detail-in-report-on-asking-barr-to-lie-about-ukraine/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2914 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/trump-appears-to-accidentally-confirm-key-detail-in-report-on-asking-barr-to-lie-about-ukraine/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2914)

boutons_deux

11-07-2019, 12:08 PM

After Rand Paul asked media to unmask alleged whistleblower,
Russian media did just that

Very quickly after Sen. Paul tweeted out an article that speculated in considerable detail about the identity of the whistleblower—with a photograph, a name, and details about the purported political history of a CIA professional—Russian state media quickly followed suit.

As if on cue,

the Kremlin-controlled heavy hitters—TASS, RT, Rossiya-1—disseminated the same information.

But unlike Rand Paul, one of the Russian state media outlets didn’t seem to find

the source—Real Clear Investigations—to be particularly impressive,

and claimed falsely that the material was published originally by The Washington Post.

Wow. Thanks for that, Rand. Great to see you’re such a principled guy.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/6/1897581/-After-Rand-Paul-asked-media-to-unmask-whistleblower-Russian-media-did-just-that (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/6/1897581/-After-Rand-Paul-asked-media-to-unmask-whistleblower-Russian-media-did-just-that)

boutons_deux

11-07-2019, 02:07 PM

Ukraine had agreed to announce a Biden investigation — blowing a massive hole in Trump’s defense

The New York Times is reporting (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/world/europe/ukraine-trump-zelensky.html)

that Ukraine ultimately agreed to President Donald Trump’s demand

to investigate former Vice President Joe Biden and his family, but those inside Ukraine didn’t have any follow-through.

In early September, Ukrainian President Volodymyr

Zelensky was faced with Trump’s demand to investigate the Bidens

in exchange for the sale of 150 Javelin missiles and

10 launchers to fight back against Russian invaders.

According to The Times report, Zelensky agreed to it but it never happened.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/ukraine-had-agreed-to-announce-a-biden-investigation-blowing-a-massive-hole-in-trumps-defense-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2925 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/ukraine-had-agreed-to-announce-a-biden-investigation-blowing-a-massive-hole-in-trumps-defense-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2925)

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/world/europe/ukraine-trump-zelensky.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/world/europe/ukraine-trump-zelensky.html)

hater

11-07-2019, 11:38 PM

https://twitter.com/randpaul/status/1191826956406394882?s=21

ChumpDumper

11-08-2019, 12:57 AM

https://twitter.com/randpaul/status/1191826956406394882?s=21:lol dude is short with a Brady fro

Winehole23

11-11-2019, 10:08 PM

Posted as a curiosity, not pro- or anti-Trump:

1194048098374311937

boutons_deux

11-12-2019, 07:09 AM

Volker’s deputy told Congress Ukrainians found out Trump froze their military aid ‘very early on’ — before the public knew

a special adviser for Ukraine and deputy to Kurt Volker, testified that

Ukrainian officials became aware of President Donald Trump’s decision to freeze military aide appropriated by Congress “very early on” — and long before the public became aware of the delay.

Croft, according to the transcript, told (https://twitter.com/ChadPergram/status/1194021331123286018?s=20) the House that

Ukrainian officials “approached me quietly and in confidence

to ask me about an [Office of Management and Budget] hold on Ukraine security assistance,” and that

she was taken aback by how quickly they became aware of it.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/volkers-deputy-told-congress-ukrainians-found-out-trump-froze-their-military-aid-very-early-on-before-the-public-knew-report/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/volkers-deputy-told-congress-ukrainians-found-out-trump-froze-their-military-aid-very-early-on-before-the-public-knew-report/)

boutons_deux

11-12-2019, 08:43 AM

Fox News contributor stuns host after naming purported whistleblower on live TV

Mollie Hemingway

named the purported whistleblower despite Fox News' orders not to identify the person's identity

Mollie Hemingway, a senior editor at conservative outlet The Federalist, :lol

Fox News has instructed its employees not to identify the whistleblower

because the network had not "independently confirmed [the] name or identification of the anonymous whistleblower,”

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/11/fox-news-contributor-stuns-host-after-naming-purported-whistleblower-on-live-tv/ (https://www.salon.com/2019/11/11/fox-news-contributor-stuns-host-after-naming-purported-whistleblower-on-live-tv/)

boutons_deux

11-16-2019, 02:38 PM

Rick Perry Exports His Pay-to-Play Politics to Ukraine

Perry has talked about his aspirations for Ukraine to become “the Texas of Europe.” On the corporate cronyism front, he may just have succeeded.

It appears that

Rick Perry (https://www.texasobserver.org/tag/rick-perry/) exported his pay-to-play politics from the Texas governor’s mansion to the notoriously corrupt Ukrainian oil and gas sector,

where, as President Donald Trump’s energy secretary, he has played an outsized role in opening up the industry to private investors.
As the Associated Press reported (https://apnews.com/6d8ae551fb884371a2a592ed85a74426) on Monday,

two of Perry’s longtime political patrons won what could be an immensely profitable drilling contract on a sprawling patch of land owned by the Ukrainian government.

https://www.texasobserver.org/rick-perry-exports-his-pay-to-play-politics-to-ukraine/

Winehole23

11-16-2019, 02:48 PM

Totally cool when (R)s do it, presumptively corrupt when (D)s do it.

boutons_deux

11-18-2019, 09:12 AM

No way Pence didn’t know what Trump was up to in Ukraine after aide’s revelations

on testimony given by a top aide to Vice President Mike Pence said her revelations about what she knew about President Donald Trump’s Ukraine dealings can only mean Pence knew and is lying.
Speaking with New Day hosts John Berman and Alisyn Camerota, contributor Kaitlan Collins stated

Jennifer Williams’ description of Trump’s Ukraine phone call was expected to set Trump off,

which it did when the president raged at her on Sunday as a “Never Trumper.” :lol raging of a old, fat, sick deranged asshole

Williams, “was on the call with the president.

She traveled with Pence when he went to Warsaw to meet with the Ukrainian president.”

“She’s also not an eager witness.

No one even realized she was on the call until

someone else on the call named her to house investigators,

that’s why she was called to testify in the first place.”

she does place Vice President Pence in an awkward position,”

So far he’s escaped scrutiny here, but he was briefed on his way to Warsaw by her and apparently, it was in his briefing book”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/no-way-pence-didnt-know-what-trump-was-up-to-in-ukraine-after-aides-revelations-cnn-panel/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/no-way-pence-didnt-know-what-trump-was-up-to-in-ukraine-after-aides-revelations-cnn-panel/)

boutons_deux

11-18-2019, 09:13 AM

Totally cool when (R)s do it, presumptively corrupt when (D)s do it.

Jimmy Ricky is even dumberer than Trash, not smart enough to bullshit his way free if the Dems come after him

btw, RNC required Ambassador to Bahamas to fork over $500K if he wanted confirmation. :lol

boutons_deux

11-18-2019, 10:03 AM

Steve King :lol

wrongly outs George Soros’ son :lol

as Trump whistleblower on Twitter

King deleted the tweet and

instead posted photos of a CIA analyst Republicans purported to be the whistleblower

https://www.salon.com/2019/11/15/steve-king-wrongly-outs-george-soros-son-as-trump-whistleblower-on-twitter/ (https://www.salon.com/2019/11/15/steve-king-wrongly-outs-george-soros-son-as-trump-whistleblower-on-twitter/)

wealth JEW globalist/banker Soros! again and again and again :lol

boutons_deux

11-18-2019, 08:53 PM

State Dept. Official Points To Pompeo In Yovanovitch Ouster

Pompeo spoke with Rudy Giuliani when deciding not to issue a statement in support of Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, according to testimony from Undersecretary of State for Political Affairs David Hale

Pompeo ordered the State Department not to issue a statement in support on Yovanovitch in March 2019,

as The Hill columnist John Solomon published false attacks on the then-sitting U.S. ambassador in Kyiv.

Hale added that

Pompeo spoke with Giuliani as attacks against Yovanovitch continued, and

the State Department maintained its silence after issuing an initial statement in support.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/read-state-dept-official-points-to-pompeo-in-yovanovitch-ouster?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/read-state-dept-official-points-to-pompeo-in-yovanovitch-ouster?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29)

Winehole23

11-18-2019, 09:10 PM

If the White House wants the truth to be known, it should let Pompeo, Mulvaney and Bolton testify. Folks with first hand knowledge.

boutons_deux

11-18-2019, 09:42 PM

"Republicans have concocted a new excuse for President Donald Trump’s extortion of Ukraine.

They’re claiming that when Trump suspended military aid to that country in July,

he and his aides were trying to ascertain whether Ukraine’s new president, Volodymyr Zelensky, was “the real deal,” a genuine reformer. :lol

This story is false, but it exposes the truth:

The aid suspension turned out to be an inadvertent test not of Zelensky’s sincerity, but of Trump’s.

When the American president claimed to care about corruption, he was lying."

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/republicans-real-deal-excuse-fake-ukraine-impeachment.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2019/11/republicans-real-deal-excuse-fake-ukraine-impeachment.html)

As if CORRUPT Trash was worried about corruption, as he was trying to corrupt Z.

Repugs are desperate, but they know the deplorable Moscow Mitch will keep Trash in office.

boutons_deux

11-18-2019, 09:45 PM

...

ElNono

11-19-2019, 05:23 AM

If the White House wants the truth to be known, it should let Pompeo, Mulvaney and Bolton testify. Folks with first hand knowledge.

None of those guys are lying under oath for Dear Leader... just look where his own personal lawyer ended up

boutons_deux

11-19-2019, 11:00 AM

Exclusive: Giuliani Ally Pete Sessions Was Eyed for Top Slot in Ukraine

Pete Sessions received millions from a PAC funded in part by indicted Giuliani cronies.

He joined Rudy in speaking out against Yovanovitch—

and was even floated as her replacement.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/giuliani-ally-pete-sessions-was-eyed-for-top-slot-in-ukraine (https://www.thedailybeast.com/giuliani-ally-pete-sessions-was-eyed-for-top-slot-in-ukraine)

boutons_deux

11-19-2019, 01:16 PM

Emails show

Mick Mulvaney, Rick Perry knew

of push to get Ukraine to open investigations

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/18/1900404/-Emails-show-Mick-Mulvaney-Rick-Perry-knew-of-push-to-get-Ukraine-to-open-investigations?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/18/1900404/-Emails-show-Mick-Mulvaney-Rick-Perry-knew-of-push-to-get-Ukraine-to-open-investigations?detail=emaildkre)

DarrinS

11-20-2019, 04:46 PM

:lol

1197261022257700865

Winehole23

11-20-2019, 04:50 PM

Big news. Hunter Biden is still a fuckup.

DarrinS

11-20-2019, 04:52 PM

Big news. Hunter Biden is still a fuckup.

Dad, too

:lol

1197250670488956928

Winehole23

11-20-2019, 04:53 PM

Dad, too

:lol

1197250670488956928I agree with you about that .

Winehole23

11-23-2019, 03:14 AM

This is weird. The State Department is stonewalling the House impeachment inquiry, but was apparently helpless
to resist a FOIA request from a non-profit org.

https://www.americanoversight.org/state-department-releases-ukraine-documents-to-american-oversight

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/6557889-State-Department-Records-of-Giuliani-and-Ukraine.html#document/p55/a537063

boutons_deux

11-23-2019, 09:25 AM

"This is weird"

Congressional Repugs requesting docs on Bidens from State and probably sooner or later from IRS.

Do you think they will be denied?

Winehole23

11-23-2019, 09:30 AM

"This is weird"

Congressional Repugs requestinh docs on Bidens from State and probably sooner or later from IRS.

Do you they will be denied?

Nope

Oversight isn't a two way street for Republicans.

Political power. when execised by duly elected Democrats, is illegitimate by the common assent of Republicans and merits only contempt.

boutons_deux

11-25-2019, 08:38 AM

White House review turns up emails

showing extensive effort

to justify Trump’s decision to block Ukraine military aid

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/white-house-review-turns-up-emails-showing-extensive-effort-to-justify-trumps-decision-to-block-ukraine-military-aid/2019/11/24/2121cf98-0d57-11ea-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html?ncid=newsltushpmgnews

boutons_deux

11-25-2019, 09:18 AM

From a NYTimes email synopsis

The Ukrainian oligarchs tapped by Rudy Giuliani

They were both rich, and they both had legal problems in the U.S.

Another thing they had in common: They were both approached by Rudy Giuliani to help dig for dirt on former Vice President Joe Biden.

Our report on the campaign by Mr. Giuliani, President Trump’s personal lawyer, to cultivate the oligarchs — Dmitry Firtash and Ihor Kolomoisky — helps explain what led to Mr. Trump’s July phone call with Ukraine’s president, a conversation that has taken Mr. Trump to the brink of impeachment.

Details: Mr. Firtash, an energy tycoon who is facing extradition to the U.S. on bribery and racketeering charges,

said that one of Mr. Giuliani’s associates had offered to intervene on his behalf with the Justice Department.

Response: Mr. Giuliani told The Times that there was nothing improper about his dealings with the oligarchs.

“Where do you think you get information about crime?” he said. :lol

Related:

After the president’s July call, Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, asked budget officials whether there was a legal justification for withholding $391 million in military aid to Ukraine.

Another angle: Devin Nunes, the top Republican on the House Intelligence Committee, said reports that he had helped efforts to smear Mr. Biden were “demonstrably false.”

==============

Nunes says he will SUE, like a fake cow, CNN for reporting on him.

boutons_deux

11-25-2019, 09:45 AM

From an LATimes email

On Sunday, in a Fox News interview, the Republican congressman from Tulare, Calif., (Cuban immigrant Nunes)

declined to directly answer a question about the allegation

but threatened to sue CNN (https://latimes.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f089ecc9238c5ee13b8e5f471&id=6b4125e140&e=c9daddbba9) for reporting it.

(He’s also recently sued other journalism organizations,

a stone-fruit farmer and

a fake cow (https://latimes.us10.list-manage.com/track/click?u=f089ecc9238c5ee13b8e5f471&id=f1c87c4b7a&e=c9daddbba9).)

boutons_deux

11-25-2019, 01:18 PM

Lev Parnas turned over videos and audio to House investigators (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/25/1901754/-Lev-Parnas-turned-over-videos-and-audio-to-House-investigators-report-says)

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/25/1901754/-Lev-Parnas-turned-over-videos-and-audio-to-House-investigators-report-says?detail=emaildkre

boutons_deux

11-25-2019, 04:44 PM

Is this Ukraine 2.0?

Trump’s OMB holds up congress-approved military assistance

Congress approved more than $100 million in U.S. military aid to Lebanon in September but

the Trump administration won’t even tell Beirut the check is in the mail.

For reasons no one fully understands–yet–Trump is holding up payment

Ominously, the refusal (so far) to release the money to Lebanon

could allow Russia, with its growing military influence in Syria (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-troop-withdrawal-creates-opening-for-revitalized-syrian-regime/ar-AAJG7i4?li=BBnbcA1), a way into Lebanon.

Russia’s power in the area has intensified since Trump pulled U.S. troops out of northeastern Syria (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/us/politics/mark-esper-syria-kurds-turkey.html) last month.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/is-this-ukraine-2-0-trumps-omb-holds-up-congress-approved-military-assistance/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3086

Syria, a Russian protege,

"The Syrian occupation of Lebanon (Arabic: الاحتلال السوري للبنان‎, French:

Occupation syrienne du Liban) began in 1976, during the Lebanese Civil War, and ended in 2005"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_occupation_of_Lebanon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrian_occupation_of_Lebanon)

So Trash stopping military aid to Lebanon would prevent Lebanon from being able to resist pressure, attacks from Syria/Russia

Yet again, traitorous Trash's geopolitics is dictated by Pootin

boutons_deux

11-25-2019, 06:55 PM

Ukrainian energy official tells prosecutors Giuliani pals Fruman and Parnas tried to recruit him

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/25/1901765/-Ukrainian-energy-official-tells-prosecutors-Giuliani-pals-Fruman-and-Parnas-tried-to-recruit-him?detail=emaildkre

boutons_deux

11-25-2019, 07:05 PM

Federal judge orders Pentagon and OMB to turn over documents discussing blocked Ukraine military aid

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/federal-judge-orders-pentagon-and-omb-to-turn-over-documents-discussing-blocked-ukraine-military-aid/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/federal-judge-orders-pentagon-and-omb-to-turn-over-documents-discussing-blocked-ukraine-military-aid/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

boutons_deux

11-26-2019, 01:41 PM

Startling timeline outlines Devin Nunes’ shady campaign to dig up dirt on Biden

A new timeline created by Ryan Goodman and Viola Gienger of Just Security shows (https://www.justsecurity.org/67480/timeline-rep-devin-nunes-and-ukraine-disinformation-efforts/) that

the California congressman appears to have been a central figure in the whole plot,

as he started meeting with Giuliani henchman Lev Parnas in late 2018.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/startling-timeline-outlines-devin-nunes-shady-campaign-to-dig-up-dirt-on-biden/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3105 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/startling-timeline-outlines-devin-nunes-shady-campaign-to-dig-up-dirt-on-biden/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3105)

==============

Timeline: Rep. Devin Nunes and Ukraine Disinformation Efforts

https://www.justsecurity.org/67480/timeline-rep-devin-nunes-and-ukraine-disinformation-efforts/ (https://www.justsecurity.org/67480/timeline-rep-devin-nunes-and-ukraine-disinformation-efforts/)

boutons_deux

11-28-2019, 03:44 PM

Giuliani did exactly what he accused the Bidens of doing —

and Americans ‘cringe’ at the corruption

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/Rudy-Giuliani-1.jpg

former Justice Department prosecutor Joesph Moreno discussed the latest revelations (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/10/rudy-giuliani-caught-trying-to-score-cash-from-ukraine-gas-company-while-accusing-hunter-biden-of-the-same/) about Rudy Giuliani’s networking in Ukraine

“Wasn’t Giuliani doing what he accused the Bidens of doing?” asked Cabrera. “Shaking down the Ukrainians for personal profit?”

“Exactly,” said Moreno.

“It’s the same swampy, pay-to-play behavior most Americans cringe at when they see it,

regardless of who is accused of it.

The idea that you’re leveraging one relationship with a high-ranking official of the U.S. government

in order to benefit either yourself or other clients in a way,

it’s the kind of thing that while it might approach the line of legality and be terrible optics, terrible ethics and

the thing folks hate to see from insiders in Washington.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/giuliani-did-exactly-what-he-accused-the-bidens-of-doing-and-americans-cringe-at-the-corruption-ex-doj-prosecutor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/11/giuliani-did-exactly-what-he-accused-the-bidens-of-doing-and-americans-cringe-at-the-corruption-ex-doj-prosecutor/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)

That's how totally corrupt DC works, has worked for decades.

Nothing happens in DC unless somebody gets paid.

boutons_deux

12-02-2019, 10:45 AM

'I Don’t Trust Anyone at All.'

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky Speaks Out on Trump, Putin and a Divided Europe

the President explained that, despite getting caught up in the impeachment inquiry (https://time.com/5739982/putin-winner-impeachment-hearings/) now unfolding in Washington, D.C.,

Ukraine still needs the support of the United States.

Otherwise his country does not stand much of a chance, Zelensky said, in its effort to get back the territory Russia seized from Ukraine in 2014, starting with the Crimean Peninsula.

Nor can Ukraine rely on steady financial support from abroad if President Donald Trump and his allies continue to signal to the world that Ukraine is corrupt, Zelensky said.

“When America says, for instance, that Ukraine is a corrupt country, that is the hardest of signals.”

https://time.com/5742108/ukraine-zelensky-interview-trump-putin-europe/ (https://time.com/5742108/ukraine-zelensky-interview-trump-putin-europe/)

Not much chance of Pootin's puppet helping Ukraine fight Pootin

boutons_deux

12-02-2019, 08:57 PM

Giuliani henchman Lev Parnas had 5 iPhones and 2 iPads with evidence Congress needs for impeachment

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/Donald-Trump-Lev-Parnas.png

believes he has evidence that Congress needs for the impeachment inquiry

Parnas’ lawyer said the gov is in possession of several documents and electronic devices they want to give to Congress for the impeachment investigation,”

“The gov has seized *a lot* of Parnas’ devices. The list they gave:

6 devices at the time of arrest, including
a Samsung device,
iPad,
2 iPhones,
cell phone.

Then 8 more from his house:

3 more iPhones,
Samsung galaxy phone,
iMac, and
iPad (no phone in court, may have missed 1),”

The evidence is not just in electronic form, but also includes hard copies of documents.

“Parnas’ lawyer also said there were hard copy documents Parnas wanted to provide to Congress.

The gov said they would be happy to scan them and make them available to Congress as well,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/giuliani-henchman-lev-parnas-had-5-iphones-and-2-ipads-with-evidence-congress-needs-for-impeachment-report/

boutons_deux

12-05-2019, 11:26 PM

Phone logs in impeachment report renew concern about security of Trump communications

no indication that those calls were encrypted or otherwise shielded from foreign surveillance.

The revelations raise the possibility that Moscow was able to learn about aspects of Trump’s attempt to get Ukraine to investigate a political rival months before that effort was exposed by a whistleblower report and the impeachment inquiry

dministration officials said separately that Trump has communicated regularly with Giuliani on unsecured lines.

“It happened all the time,”

the president continues to defy the security guidance urged by his aides and followed by previous incumbents —

a stance that is particularly remarkable given

Trump’s attacks on Hillary Clinton in the 2016 presidential campaign for her use of a private email account
while serving as secretary of state.

Trump and Giuliani have effectively “given the Russians ammunition they can use in an overt fashion, a covert fashion or in the twisting of information,”

so likely that Russia tracked the calls of Giuliani and others that the Kremlin probably knows more now about those conversations than impeachment investigators.

“I guarantee the Russians have the actual information.”

Giuliani would have been considered a target of Russian intelligence efforts from early in Trump’s presidency and that it is assumed that the Kremlin intensified its surveillance of the president’s lawyer when he turned his focus to Ukraine

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/phone-logs-in-impeachment-report-renew-concern-about-security-of-trump-communications/2019/12/05/2066fbf4-16fe-11ea-8406-df3c54b3253e_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/phone-logs-in-impeachment-report-renew-concern-about-security-of-trump-communications/2019/12/05/2066fbf4-16fe-11ea-8406-df3c54b3253e_story.html)

Pootin is LAUGHING HIS ASS OFF

hater

12-06-2019, 01:19 PM

:lmao

https://twitter.com/georgealeroy/status/1203015632167559169?s=21

hater

12-06-2019, 01:23 PM

https://twitter.com/frankhartii/status/1202840784489385985?s=21

boutons_deux

12-16-2019, 03:14 AM

Will Repugs go after a corrupt Bush son?

George P. Bush failed to disclose financial interests in nearly a dozen companies

After the Texas Ethics Commission received a sworn complaint about the omissions, Bush told The Texas Tribune last week that

he took immediate steps to correct his disclosure forms. :lol

Texas Land Commissioner George P. Bush failed to disclose his ties to at least 11 companies, including a Cayman Islands-based oil and gas firm that did business with a state fund he helps oversee

State politicians must provide details of their personal finances, including business dealings and corporate board service, every year to the

Texas Ethics Commissions :lol

Bush ... he looked into the matter,

learned of a 2017 opinion that better clarified what business interests must be revealed :lol

https://www.texastribune.org/2019/12/16/george-p-bush-failed-disclose-financial-interests-11-companies/

Winehole23

12-17-2019, 08:20 AM

Naftogaz sues the Ukrainian government over the deal with Rick Perry's buddies and its CEO testified in the NY case against Giuliani bagmen Parnas and Fruman:

1206922824423747588

hater

12-17-2019, 09:12 AM

https://twitter.com/jsolomonreports/status/1206936268267020288?s=21

Winehole23

12-17-2019, 09:16 AM

Erstwhile Hill op-ed columnist and Giuliani media cat's paw, current blogger and tweeter.

Truly meteoric descent.

hater

12-17-2019, 01:28 PM

Erstwhile Hill op-ed columnist and Giuliani media cat's paw, current blogger and tweeter.

Truly meteoric descent.

as meteoric as CNN, NBC, WaPo descents tbqh

Winehole23

12-17-2019, 02:11 PM

as meteoric as CNN, NBC, WaPo descents tbqhThat's what we call a non-denial denial.

Solomon's credibility is torched -- he sold out to Rudy G.

hater

12-17-2019, 03:36 PM

That's what we call a non-denial denial.

Solomon's credibility is torched -- he sold out to Rudy G.

sonis cnns, nbcs and wapos

:lmao muh russia collusion for 4 years

boutons_deux

12-17-2019, 04:28 PM

Repugs casting stones! :lol

Moscow Mitch McConnell allies under the microscope as Trump official is investigated for awarding senator’s friends lucrative contracts

Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao apparently rewarded political supporters of her husband, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/mcconnell-allies-under-the-microscope-as-trump-official-is-investigated-for-awarding-senators-friends-lucrative-contracts/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3250 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/mcconnell-allies-under-the-microscope-as-trump-official-is-investigated-for-awarding-senators-friends-lucrative-contracts/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3250)

hater

12-17-2019, 05:41 PM

That's what we call a non-denial denial.

Solomon's credibility is torched -- he sold out to Rudy G.

:lmao CNN just torched their credibilty again :lol

https://twitter.com/arthurschwartz/status/1206756013904400384?s=21

boutons_deux

12-17-2019, 05:51 PM

Ukrainian Prosecutor Behind Trump’s Impeachment

How the efforts of Yuriy Lutsenko and Rudy Giuliani to smear Joe Biden

led to a Presidential crisis.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019/12/23/the-ukrainian-prosecutor-behind-trumps-impeachment?source=EDT_NYR_EDIT_NEWSLETTER_0_image newsletter_Daily_ZZ&utm_campaign=aud-dev&utm_source=nl&utm_brand=tny&utm_mailing=TNY_Daily_121719&utm_medium=email&bxid=5bd6795524c17c1048022fcc&cndid=43758549&esrc=&mbid=&utm_term=TNY_Daily

Winehole23

12-17-2019, 06:36 PM

sonis cnns, nbcs and wapos

:lmao muh russia collusion for 4 yearsyeah, that was and is pretty lame. collusion never looked like a likely bet to me. obstruction out the wazoo, though.

RandomGuy

12-17-2019, 06:50 PM

Naftogaz sues the Ukrainian government over the deal with Rick Perry's buddies and its CEO testified in the NY case against Giuliani bagmen Parnas and Fruman:

1206922824423747588

My
Attorneys
Get
Arrested

Winehole23

12-18-2019, 10:19 AM

My
Attorneys
Get
ArrestedGiuliani has gone full Roy Cohn, basically ratfucking for his client in public and insisting there's nothing wrong with it.

Roy Cohn ended up disbarred and a bunch of his clients went to jail.

I'm sure Rudy G. knows that, I guess he just has to play out his ball of string at this point.

RandomGuy

12-18-2019, 10:24 AM

Giuliani has gone full Roy Cohn, basically ratfucking for his client in public and insisting there's nothing wrong with it.

Roy Cohn ended up disbarred and a bunch of his clients went to jail.

I'm sure Rudy G. knows that, I guess he just has to play out his ball of string at this point.

I have little doubt that Rudy will end up in jail.

At some point, Trump will no longer be in office.

The incompetent, corrupt people he has working for him will be out of power, and all the documents and communication that are being kept secret will be gleefully leaked by the Democratic nominees that will replace them.

The shielding and protecting will stop, and we will all get a chance to look behind the curtain at the shitpiles that these people are leaving in their areas.

Assuming that Trump doesn't get re-elected, the next four years will see a steady drum beat of corruption stories in a steady drip drip drip.

Winehole23

12-18-2019, 10:34 AM

Assuming that Trump doesn't get re-elected, the next four years will see a steady drum beat of corruption stories in a steady drip drip drip.And even worse if Trump gets reelected, tbh.

boutons_deux

12-18-2019, 10:40 AM

yeah, that was and is pretty lame. collusion never looked like a likely bet to me. obstruction out the wazoo, though.

Repugs were "informed" by Pootin that his cyberarmy was queering the election (a crime) and the Repugs not only refused to report the crime to FBI, but

"Russia, if you are listening..."

and

"I love it" dirt on Hillary

and

Manafort/Jared giving their demographic data to Russia

And Pootin expected Trash to return the favor, eg, (Flynn channel) removing Obama's very painful financial sanctions.

Winehole23

12-18-2019, 11:44 AM

Repugs were "informed" by Pootin that his cyberarmy was queering the election (a crime) and the Repugs not only refused to report the crime to FBI, but

"Russia, if you are listening..."

and

"I love it" dirt on Hillary

and

Manafort/Jared giving their demographic data to Russia

And Pootin expected Trash to return the favor, eg, (Flynn channel) removing Obama's very painful financial sanctions.Conspiracies are hard to prove in court, this one is no exception.

It's not a super strong case, IMHO, whereas obstruction of justice would pretty much be a slam dunk, were it ever criminally referred.

Why overreach?

Winehole23

12-18-2019, 11:48 AM

A conspiracy theory very much like this is fashionable among freethinkers on this board:

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spurraider21

12-18-2019, 12:17 PM

A conspiracy theory very much like this is fashionable among freethinkers on this board:

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ah yes, this is like mike flynn pleading guilty to expose the libs

Reck

12-30-2019, 04:54 PM

Latest Biden gaffe (or is it really one?) shows how Trump is an idiot when he tried to dig dirt on him to damage his chances.

Biden is doing that in spades all by his lonesome. :lmao running with a Republican as his VP.

Campaign killer and a disqualifier right there.

benefactor

12-30-2019, 05:22 PM

Is he intentionally trying to eliminate himself?:lol

Winehole23

12-31-2019, 08:16 AM

Is he intentionally trying to eliminate himself?:lolThe more people see of Biden the less they like him. Remember the HRC campaign hunkering down in 2016?

Hoping to win by limiting public access to the candidate, does not inspire confidence in the candidate.

boutons_deux

12-31-2019, 08:23 AM

The more people see of Biden the less they like him. Remember the HRC campaign hunkering down in 2016?

Hoping to win by limiting public access to the candidate, does not inspire confidence in the candidate.

K McCarthy got blasted by the Repugs for admitting the 8 Repug Benghazi committees' purpose was to keep Hillary in a bad light, effectively slandering her, while finding nothing.

Winehole23

12-31-2019, 08:35 AM

K McCarthy got blasted by the Repugs for admitting the 8 Repug Benghazi committees' purpose was to keep Hillary in a bad light, effectively slandering her, while finding nothing.It's bad form to admit what you're actually doing. The mere pretense of good behavior is to be valued because it countersigns for hypocrisy.

Chris

12-31-2019, 02:41 PM

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1212095221850349568?s=19

Spurs Homer

12-31-2019, 03:10 PM

His emails version!

Spurtacular

12-31-2019, 08:08 PM

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1212095221850349568?s=19

Deadbeat Dad.

Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460)'s hero probably. :lol

Reck

12-31-2019, 08:14 PM

Deadbeat Dad.

Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460)'s hero probably. :lol

Derp, try to start the year off by cleaning your image. All this tranny, cuck and chumpette talk has officially made you ST official retard. A title previously held by ducks.

boutons_deux

01-13-2020, 07:32 PM

Rick Perry communications with Ukrainians — and Rudy Giuliani — to be publicly released

The Department of Energy will be turning over public records detailing for Energy Secretary Rick Perry’s communications with Ukrainians and Rudy Giuliani.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rick-perry-communications-with-ukrainians-and-rudy-giuliani-to-be-publicly-released-report/

How thoroughly will they be blacked out, scrubbed?

spurraider21

01-13-2020, 07:33 PM

the biden corruption story is going to limp along until he wins the nomination and then blow up and cost the dems the election

boutons_deux

01-14-2020, 03:55 PM

If Russia Hacked Burisma, Brace For the Leaks to Follow

The Kremlin likely hacked the oil giant.

Their next play:

Selectively release—and even forge—documents.

Did the US learn enough from 2016 to ignore them?

https://www.wired.com/story/russia-burisma-hack-leaks/ (https://www.wired.com/story/russia-burisma-hack-leaks/)

... which will "prove" Biden's son is corrupt, therefore Joe is not qualified to be President

Winehole23

01-14-2020, 06:26 PM

Dumbest criminals ever

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Winehole23

01-14-2020, 06:30 PM

Politico story on the new batch of evidence here:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/14/house-dems-release-new-impeachment-evidence-related-to-indicted-giuliani-associate-098854

FuzzyLumpkins

01-14-2020, 06:53 PM

the biden corruption story is going to limp along until he wins the nomination and then blow up and cost the dems the election

At this point last election, the Clinton Cash stories were already being carried by CNN, NYT, and similar MSM outlets. It carried through all the way with Bannon and his crew leading the messaging.

This story had been repudiated by those same outlets. Right wing media outlets will continue to make it a coverage staple but that does little other than form their base's opinion.

I just don't see it blowing up.

Winehole23

01-14-2020, 06:59 PM

Docs here:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/read-house-intel-releases-parnas-docs-for-trump-impeachment

Winehole23

01-14-2020, 07:02 PM

Having a US ambassador tailed and offering to have her offed for disloyalty is normal, right?

The quoted is a GOP US Rep candidate from Connecticut.

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boutons_deux

01-14-2020, 07:23 PM

The House Drops Bombshell Evidence Of Trump’s Ukraine Guilt From Giuliani

Chairs Jerrold Nadler (D-NY),
Adam Schiff (D-CA),
Carolyn Maloney (D-NY), and
Eliot Engel (D-NY) said in a statement provided to PoliticusUSA:

Despite the President’s unprecedented and sweeping obstruction of our impeachment inquiry,

we have continued to collect additional evidence relevant to the President’s scheme to abuse his power by pressing Ukraine to interfere in the 2020 election for the President’s benefit.

there is more evidence relevant to the President’s scheme, but they have been concealed by the President himself.

There cannot be a full and fair trial in the Senate without the documents that President Trump is refusing to provide to Congress.

There is enough evidence in the House packet to convict and remove Donald Trump from office.

There have been no documents or witnesses offered on Trump’s behalf.

The president has no one to tell his side of the story because he is guilty.

https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/14/the-house-drops-bombshell-evidence-of-trumps-ukraine-guilt-from-giuliani.html (https://www.politicususa.com/2020/01/14/the-house-drops-bombshell-evidence-of-trumps-ukraine-guilt-from-giuliani.html)

I think Pelosi should delay giving the A of I to Senate, because her delay so have allowed more very inculpating evidence to be added.

I think the Dems should also go now straight to SCOTUS demanding Trash turn over everything Trash is hiding, including the evidence behind the Mueller report.

If Trash succeeds in setting the precedent of hiding evidence against, America is fucked

boutons_deux

01-14-2020, 07:27 PM

Trump apparently gave Giuliani his 'consent' to request a meeting with Ukrainian president, new impeachment evidence shows (https://theweek.com/speedreads/889435/trump-apparently-gave-giuliani-consent-request-meeting-ukrainian-president-new-impeachment-evidence-shows)

https://theweek.com/speedreads/889435/trump-apparently-gave-giuliani-consent-request-meeting-ukrainian-president-new-impeachment-evidence-shows

boutons_deux

01-14-2020, 07:32 PM

Trump said he’d pay legal fees of Giuliani’s business partners — then denied knowing them

In October, when asked about indicted Rudy Giuliani business associates Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, President Donald Trump played dumb, saying “I don’t know those gentlemen.”

But that is decidedly at odds with an email released as part of a trove of documents given by Parnas to the House Intelligence Committee, which suggests that

Trump approved legal counsel for Parnas and Fruman just days before denying he knew them to reporters:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EORrCSUWkAAwqr5?format=jpg&name=large

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-said-hed-pay-legal-fees-of-giulianis-business-partners-then-denied-knowing-them/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/trump-said-hed-pay-legal-fees-of-giulianis-business-partners-then-denied-knowing-them/)

Winehole23

01-14-2020, 07:32 PM

Red-diaper baby Orin Kerr weighs in on Giuliani approaching foreign leaders in his capacity as POTUS's personal lawyer:

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boutons_deux

01-14-2020, 08:19 PM

A real conspiracy in pursuit of an illicit end’: GOP commentator shocked by Parnas’s newly-released evidence

Longtime conservative activist and Republican operative Bill Kristol was shocked

Kristol added his analysis.

“The removal of Yovanovitch was always

a sign this was a real conspiracy in pursuit of an illicit end,

not a case of mere haphazard, fitfully-expressed wishes of Trump,” he explained.

“Yovanovitch stood in the way of effectuating the conspiracy.

And she was removed at the direction of Trump,” Kristol charged.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/a-real-conspiracy-in-pursuit-of-an-illicit-end-gop-commentator-shocked-by-parnass-newly-released-evidence/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/a-real-conspiracy-in-pursuit-of-an-illicit-end-gop-commentator-shocked-by-parnass-newly-released-evidence/)

well, Billy K is a NeverTrumper, a rare correct stance in a lifetime of bad takes, like pushing Sarah Palin to prominence.

ElNono

01-14-2020, 09:22 PM

crickets from the usual suspects

spurraider21

01-14-2020, 09:28 PM

crickets from the usual suspects
brah he just says "going through some things"... thats so vague, could mean anything

also...

:madrun "insurance policy" definitely for sure means coup against trump fake russia investigation hillary fusion gps obama spygate :madrun

pgardn

01-14-2020, 11:14 PM

The red team was fighting corruption so selflessly and honestly that the orange man fired our ambassador who was by far doing more about corruption than anyone. All suggested by Rudi and his group of idiots!
Fckn liars.

But, but ....We were fighting corruption... what a laugher
These are patriots fighting to get themselves re elected, it’s so inspiring.
Bunch of fckn orange crooks.

Red team just got backhanded bitch slapped. Just go through this trial with no witnesses and no new evidence, please do it for 2020. Please.

pgardn

01-14-2020, 11:14 PM

....

Winehole23

01-14-2020, 11:41 PM

crickets from the usual suspectswaiting for instructions, not willing to venture ex tempore takes, apparently.

Winehole23

01-15-2020, 10:00 AM

Apparently ST red team has been instructed to pretend the latest batch of documents does not exist.

Winehole23

01-15-2020, 10:30 AM

Lutsenko: I'll give you dirt on Biden if you fire Yovanovitch.

Trump: Fires Ambassador Yovanovitch

Winehole23

01-15-2020, 09:10 PM

Rachel Maddow: on my show tonight, Lev Parnas.

Devin Nunes: Oh, that Lev Parnas. Now I remember.

Winehole23

01-15-2020, 09:28 PM

Lev Parnas: if you don't announce an investigation into the Bidens, Pence won't come to Zelenskiy's inauguration.

Ukrainian officials:

White House, one day later: the VP's trip to Ukraine is cancelled.

Winehole23

01-15-2020, 10:10 PM

I agree strongly with this take: DOJ stonewalling hastened impeachment.

Had Barr punted to an IG, all this shit would still be under wraps. They probably could have run out the clock past the election.

The great irony is that if Barr and his DOJ had even pretended to follow procedure here, with the AG recusing himself while a special counsel investigated the whisteblower’s complaint, they might have succeeded in bottling the matter up. Instead, Barr himself opened the door for—and all but necessitated—Congress’ investigation. https://www.thedailybeast.com/william-barr-tried-to-get-trump-off-the-hook-instead-he-ended-up-painting-the-boss-into-a-corner

Winehole23

01-16-2020, 12:20 AM

waiting for instructions, not willing to venture ex tempore takes, apparently.Threw away Trump's cellphone, issued strict orders to the rank and file to STFU.

Can't even get an "lol Maddow"

Winehole23

01-16-2020, 12:59 AM

More docs:

https://www.lawfareblog.com/house-releases-more-ukraine-documents

Winehole23

01-16-2020, 03:50 AM

Barr has been sitting on the Parnas cache for months. He knows what's there.

Everyone has shut the fuck up because there's legit legal hazard attached for a clutch of high officials in the White House, plus Barr, plus Nunes, plus Giuliani, possibly Pompeo -- and yes, Parnas and Fruman too.

Winehole23

01-16-2020, 03:52 AM

Nunes had to rush over to Fox to advertise his refreshed memory before Parnas roasted him on Maddow.

Not a convincing liar.

pgardn

01-16-2020, 09:01 AM

Lutsenko: I'll give you dirt on Biden if you fire Yovanovitch.

Trump: Fires Ambassador Yovanovitch

The ambassador who actually understood the corruption in Ukraine and holding their feet to the fire when his group lost the election. She would have been instrumental in understanding the various nuances of corruption under the new president and Trump fires her because?

Trump was told to by a corrupt man who was afraid of her.

So Trump could save the country from the all encompassing Biden corruption.

This WH and president are so fckd up. Relying on the American citizen not caring to follow this.
Better make this “trial” as unwatchable and uneventful as possible. The red team is counting on voters to be as ignorant as possible. Or like ST red team, enamored and beholden to their orange king. We get to witness the servants in action, it’s the true definition of cuck, cucking, cucklery... 1/3 of a nation, willing cucks.

boutons_deux

01-16-2020, 09:10 AM

Barr has been sitting on the Parnas cache for months

The Parnas cache was in Barr's control, not in Parnas' control?

Winehole23

01-16-2020, 10:03 AM

The Parnas cache was in Barr's control, not in Parnas' control?The electronic devices were seized by DOJ at the time of arrest. That's about 2 months.

Pure surmise on my part, but I doubt the SDNY gives the defendant permission to do a TV interview, or gives the corroborating evidence to the House, if it had confidence Bob Barr would allow it all to come out at trial.

Winehole23

01-16-2020, 10:19 AM

They better make this trial as unwatchable and uneventful as possibleOnly one TV camera will be allowed; C-Span will not be permitted to air it. Nor will it be shown in its entirety. Parts will be blacked out by the majority.

Isitjustme?

01-16-2020, 09:52 PM

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Winehole23

01-17-2020, 12:02 AM

I wouldn't believe everything Lev Parnas says, but I bet he has more receipts than you might guess.

Winehole23

01-17-2020, 07:12 PM

This conspiracy theory...sounds plausible.

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boutons_deux

01-17-2020, 07:24 PM

This conspiracy theory...sounds plausible.

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Dowd visited Parnas in prison and told him to be a good boy and STFU to save Trash's skin.

Parnas threatened Dowd if Dowd wouldn't leave the cell.

Dowd then pushed the cell's panic button :lol

It was Dowd's visit that flipped Parnas against Trash and his mafiya.

Spurs Homer

01-17-2020, 07:29 PM

parnas reason for coming clean now:

"im more scared of barrs DOJ than of the actual criminals - trump was nowhere near as powerful in 2016-17 - but as soon as he got Barr - he became very powerful and people are scared - I'm scared"

"DOJ and Barr want to keep me quiet"

TSA

01-17-2020, 07:53 PM

This conspiracy theory...sounds plausible.

1218173237710008320

https://mobile.twitter.com/blakesmustache/status/1218173244412395521

winehole caught the TDS :lmao

ChumpDumper

01-17-2020, 07:57 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/blakesmustache/status/1218173244412395521

winehole caught the TDS :lmaoWaiting for you to post a tweet saying Parnas is a Satan-worshiping, baby-eating, pedophile.

Winehole23

01-17-2020, 07:58 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/blakesmustache/status/1218173244412395521

winehole caught the TDS :lmaoNah, you're patient zero, tbh.

Reck

01-17-2020, 08:00 PM

the biden corruption story is going to limp along until he wins the nomination and then blow up and cost the dems the election

It’s blowing up alright...the other way.

Trump and his minions are too stupid to get this train back on track. They essentially ratted themselves out.

TSA

01-17-2020, 08:03 PM

Nah, you're patient zero, tbh.

Walk me through the clear plot of assassinating Yovanovitch from the conspiracy theory you find plausible. :rollin

Winehole23

01-17-2020, 08:06 PM

Walk me through the clear plot of assassinating Yovanovitch from the conspiracy theory you find plausible. :rollinNot my theory, you've confused me with Uncle Blazer. What I found plausible was Giuliani and Barr contriving to arrest Parnas.

Why do you think Robert Hyde was tailing Yovanovitch and casing her security detail?

Winehole23

01-17-2020, 08:08 PM

How do you gloss Hyde's related text reminding Parnas that you can get Ukrainians to "do anything" for money?

Walk me through your innocent explanation.

ElNono

01-18-2020, 06:18 AM

How do you gloss Hyde's related text reminding Parnas that you can get Ukrainians to "do anything" for money?

Walk me through your innocent explanation.

anything could be a bar mitzvah, tbh... too vague

boutons_deux

01-18-2020, 09:56 AM

anything could be a bar mitzvah, tbh... too vague

not at all vague in the context of the Trash mafiya's objective of bribing/extorting Z just to announce investigation of Biden, w/o actually investigating

Trash wanted only the announcement by Z which Trash would run with to slander Joe B (aka politics of personal destruction, actual policies need no apply) , didn't care about an actual investigation.

ElNono

01-18-2020, 03:07 PM

not at all vague in the context of the Trash mafiya's objective of bribing/extorting Z just to announce investigation of Biden, w/o actually investigating

Trash wanted only the announcement by Z which Trash would run with to slander Joe B (aka politics of personal destruction, actual policies need no apply) , didn't care about an actual investigation.

Your sarcasm detector was off

boutons_deux

05-05-2020, 09:03 AM

‘Art of the Deal, baby’:

Trump deluged in mockery as

Ukraine announces an investigation into his associates

they opened an investigation (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/christopherm51/ukraine-impeachment-lev-parnas-marie-yovanovitch) into

whether former US ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch was being surveilled

by associates of Rudy Giuliani while she was in Kyiv last spring.

documents this Tuesday that showed communications between Lev Parnas and Trump donor Robert Hyde that discussed Yovanovitch’s movement throughout Kyiv.

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/art-of-the-deal-baby-trump-deluged-in-mockery-as-ukraine-announces-an-investigation-into-his-associates/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3502

TSA

05-19-2020, 04:18 PM

the biden corruption story is going to limp along until he wins the nomination and then blow up and cost the dems the election

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1262801174060773382

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1262801220344954880

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1262801298996543488

Reck

05-19-2020, 04:24 PM

Nope. That's not it, chief.

ChumpDumper

05-19-2020, 05:44 PM

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1262801174060773382

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1262801220344954880

https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1262801298996543488And?

boutons_deux

05-20-2020, 01:25 PM

Ukainains, probably paid by Trash/Julie Annie, connected to, and probably selected by Pootin, sliming Biden.

Totally believable.

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/98313561_133126621683680_5900794996050624512_n.png ?_nc_cat=102&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=HUlOh0RwyXEAX-xkH4-&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=81191f5069fd7089377e72b5a21e8c2f&oe=5EEA532A

TSA

05-20-2020, 06:30 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChanelRion/status/1263234253531361280

ChumpDumper

05-20-2020, 06:31 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChanelRion/status/1263234253531361280:lolAN

TSA is falling for it again.

boutons_deux

05-20-2020, 06:54 PM

corrupt, compromised Barr prosecuting Trash's political opponent, exactly like a dictatorship

America, esp under Repugs, so fucked and unfuckable

boutons_deux

06-22-2020, 10:21 AM

Former Ukrainian president says Biden never pressed him on Burisma

“My absolutely clear answer: no, never,” Petro Poroshenko told CNN.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/21/ukraine-president-hunter-joe-biden-burisma-331779?fbclid=IwAR0-OFVwN_Zy45rkwlTD6Yz3RF52Wtlk0LpwhUkOcpzm0R-I9cTWothAN4E (https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/21/ukraine-president-hunter-joe-biden-burisma-331779?fbclid=IwAR0-OFVwN_Zy45rkwlTD6Yz3RF52Wtlk0LpwhUkOcpzm0R-I9cTWothAN4E)

================

Ukrainian lawmaker releases leaked phone calls of Biden and Poroshenko

The recordings played at the news conference Tuesday shed relatively little new light on Biden’s actions in Ukraine (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/trump-says-he-was-concerned-about-corruption-in-ukraine-the-evidence-indicates-he-was-focused-on-biden/2020/01/27/10635e20-3ede-11ea-971f-4ce4f94494b4_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_7),

which were at the center of President Trump’s impeachment (https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/impeachment-trial-live-updates/2020/01/27/837a77f0-40f4-11ea-b5fc-eefa848cde99_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_7) last year.

They show that Biden, as he has previously said publicly,

linked loan guarantees for Ukraine to the ouster of the country’s prosecutor general in 2015.

But Derkach used the new clips to make an array of accusations not proven by the tapes.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/ukrainian-lawmaker-releases-leaked-phone-calls-of-biden-and-poroshenko/2020/05/19/cc1e6030-9a26-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/ukrainian-lawmaker-releases-leaked-phone-calls-of-biden-and-poroshenko/2020/05/19/cc1e6030-9a26-11ea-b60c-3be060a4f8e1_story.html)

Derkach?

"Derkach has past links to Russian intelligence. He attended the Dzerzhinsky Higher School of the KGB in Moscow."

boutons_deux

07-03-2020, 01:15 PM

Rudy Giuliani :lol

releases audio of Biden in Ukraine that shows

Biden … was telling the truth all along

a Ukrainian lawmaker who was once affiliated with a pro-Russian political party and has met with Giuliani

released 10 edited snippets of what appeared to be Biden’s official vice presidential phone calls with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko in 2016.

this breaking news makes it absolutely clear that this isn’t a matter of any news being broken.

Or of Biden doing anything wrong.

Instead, after months of trying to find some evidence, any at all, that supports a ludicrous conspiracy theory that inverts the actual order of events—

and, it shouldn’t be forgotten, also includes a bonus section about Hillary’s email server.

That evidence, being nonexistent,

has proven rather difficult to find. But at this point, Giuliani isn’t going to let that kind of detail get in his way.

Instead, Giuliani is taking a page from Trump’s friend Mark Burnett and is

creating Biden’s “crimes” the same way they make villains on Survivor: In the editing room.

Rather than releasing a recording of Biden’s 2016 phone call with Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko, Giuliani has issued a series of 10 carefully edited “snippets.”

If Giuliani’s videos have failed to dislodge Trump’s latest Russians scandal, the quest for racial justice, or the mounting death toll from the headlines, that might be because of a few issues:

There’s nothing in the snippets that Biden hasn’t already said. He insisted on the firing of a corrupt prosecutor before he would agree to supporting aid for Ukraine.
The authenticity of the recordings “could not be verified” and the files “appear heavily edited.”
Former Ukrainian President Petro Poroshenko has called the recordings fake.
The guy who is Giuliani’s source on this scoop is a pro-Russian Ukrainian lawmaker who studied under the KGB in Moscow.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/1/1957262/-Rudy-Giuliani-releases-audio-of-Biden-in-Ukraine-that-shows-Biden-was-telling-the-truth-all-along?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/1/1957262/-Rudy-Giuliani-releases-audio-of-Biden-in-Ukraine-that-shows-Biden-was-telling-the-truth-all-along?detail=emaildkre)

Winehole23

09-10-2021, 12:27 PM

Fruman pleads guilty, but will not cooperate.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/10/parnas-trump.jpg

Fruman and Parnas were arrested together on Oct. 9, 2019, at Washington’s Dulles Airport, where the men held one-way tickets to Vienna, Austria. Their indictment said that the men created a limited liability corporation called Global Energy Producers to conceal their funding and capital from creditors and other third parties, then made large political contributions in that entity's name.

For over a year leading up to the arrests, reports had emerged about super-PACs supporting Trump receiving mysterious donations from Global Energy Producers. As Giuliani’s work in Ukraine became a pivot point (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-26/pro-trump-super-pac-got-illegal-contributions-complaint-alleges) of President Donald Trump’s impeachment inquiry, that trail of money came into sharper relief.

In recent months, defense attorneys sought dismissal (https://www.courthousenews.com/indicted-giuliani-associates-cite-privilege-to-evade-trial/) of Fruman, Parnas and Kukushkin's superseding indictments (https://www.courthousenews.com/giuliani-associate-lev-parnas-hit-with-new-fraud-charges/) for what they called "a gross violation of the defendants’ attorney-client privilege,” arising from an email chain with attorneys and advisers related to their joint cannabis business venture.

Amid those talks, federal investigators executed a search warrant (https://www.courthousenews.com/feds-search-giulianis-home-office-seize-cellphones/) in late April of Giuliani’s Manhattan apartment and office, seizing electronic devices in a predawn raid that coincided with the search warrant executed in the Washington area against Victoria Toensing, another Giuliani ally and onetime Trump attorney.

The 77-year-old former New York City mayor has denied any wrongdoing and has not been charged with a crime.
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