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Marcus Bryant
11-01-2005, 11:03 PM
Thought he looked good overall. Still learning the defense. Has good instincts. Was not afraid to use his body down low. His J looked solid. Didn't make bad decisions nor take bad shots. Somewhat active, at least more than Radoslav.

Sense
11-01-2005, 11:04 PM
He looked active alright...

His J looked weird to me though.

I think he made us a little undersized, since they are gonna spare some minutes with him.


But he looked fine.

E20
11-01-2005, 11:05 PM
He looks pretty good, solid. Didn't see any probs with him. Did Rasho dunk the ball early on, I didn't see it, but it said Rasho scored didn't know if it was a dunk or not?

Trainwreck2100
11-01-2005, 11:05 PM
Thought he looked good overall. Still learning the defense. Has good instincts. Was not afraid to use his body down low. His J looked solid. Didn't make bad decisions nor take bad shots. Somewhat active, at least more than Radoslav.

He Rashoed to shots 2 feet from the basket, he lost some rebounds, and the afformentioned oompa loompa deflection I have made in other threads. If he pump fakes more and gets a tan I think we'll see Malik again.

Marcus Bryant
11-01-2005, 11:06 PM
Size wasn't an issue with Oberto.

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
11-01-2005, 11:06 PM
He Rashoed to shots 2 feet from the basket, he lost some rebounds, and the afformentioned oompa loompa deflection I have made in other threads. If he pump fakes more and gets a tan I think we'll see Malik again.

Please mark this comment, save it. Let's bring this back in May.

TDMVPDPOY
11-01-2005, 11:07 PM
must be the hair in the way, has he got a haircut yet

nkdlunch
11-01-2005, 11:07 PM
He Rashoed to shots 2 feet from the basket, he lost some rebounds, and the afformentioned oompa loompa deflection I have made in other threads. If he pump fakes more and gets a tan I think we'll see Malik again.

You forgot the good plays he made and plus he hustled more than Rasho + Nazr, in this game.

hussker
11-01-2005, 11:08 PM
LOST...and that is OK. He will be until March. But watch out then!

Sense
11-01-2005, 11:09 PM
Size wasn't an issue with Oberto.

He was usually matched up against Najera.....

Najera ended up with 14 points... it might've been a good night for Najera, but there's no excuse for that.

He should've been better against him, so if size wasn't an issue, he has some problems with the D.

I can't picture him going against a starter with better defensive numbers.

nkdlunch
11-01-2005, 11:10 PM
more than half of Najera's points were not against Oberto

Marcus Bryant
11-01-2005, 11:10 PM
Najera's points came off garbage baskets or plays where Oberto was screened out. Maybe he can run through the screen and rack up some fouls next time.

hussker
11-01-2005, 11:11 PM
Najera and Melo were garbage men tonight.

Sense
11-01-2005, 11:11 PM
more than half of Najera's points were not against Oberto


Who were they against?

Trainwreck2100
11-01-2005, 11:13 PM
You forgot the good plays he made and plus he hustled more than Rasho + Nazr, in this game.

Did he guard Kamby or Kmart well, I do recall Martin going right around him and scoring, congrats Oberto you played good again Denver's scrubs.

hussker
11-01-2005, 11:57 PM
Najera and Melo were garbage men tonight.

That's all I have to say about that...

2centsworth
11-02-2005, 12:13 AM
Najera should buy a lotto ticket tonight with all those lucky jumpers. He would have given steve kerr a run for his money tonight.

Kori Ellis
11-02-2005, 01:57 AM
I thought Oberto looked pretty bad. He can't jump or something. I'm not really sure. Anyway, he'll get acclimated like the rest of them. The Spurs have tremendous depth. If they stay healthy, they'll be fine.

Sense
11-02-2005, 02:00 AM
I thought Oberto looked pretty bad. He can't jump or something. I'm not really sure. Anyway, he'll get acclimated like the rest of them. The Spurs have tremendous depth. If they stay healthy, they'll be fine.


My thoughts.

T Park
11-02-2005, 02:21 AM
I thought Oberto looked pretty bad

My thoughts.

I dont see what he did that was so great.

He grabbed a couple of wide open rebounds and a couple of layups.


If Rasho had a game like this, youd still say he was overpaid.

But, typical Spurs fan Rasho haters.

Marcus Bryant
11-02-2005, 02:30 AM
More active on the boards and more successful than Radoslav on the boards and also at scoring down low. Radoslav has had a couple of seasons to learn the Spurs' defensive schemes. Oberto? One preseason. 6 pts (on 3-4 shooting) & 4 rebs in 14 minutes is solid production for the 4th big in SA. Oberto did show a little of the offensive skills that will make him a nice piece up front as he gets more familiar with his teammates.

ploto
11-02-2005, 02:32 AM
Oberto is fine offensively, as I have said, but defensively he got owned and majorly outrebounded.

The one Pop was furious with was Nazr. He got chewed out big time twice-- Pop was all red faced and yanked him out in the fourth quarter.

T Park
11-02-2005, 02:35 AM
More active on the boards and more successful than Radoslav on the boards

Bullshit.

You see what you want to see cause of your childish Nesterovic hate.

Kori Ellis
11-02-2005, 02:37 AM
The one Pop was furious with was Nazr. He got chewed out big time twice-- Pop was all red faced and yanked him out in the fourth quarter.

True. Nazr found his way to the dog house in one game.

Marcus Bryant
11-02-2005, 02:49 AM
Bullshit.

You see what you want to see cause of your childish Nesterovic hate.

Did you watch the game? Which player looked like he had been with this team for the last 2 seasons?

Dre_7
11-02-2005, 03:58 AM
I really liked Nazr's play last night. Dont know why he got pulled. Very aggresive. Would like to see him get more minutes.

Mark in Austin
11-02-2005, 08:02 AM
For me, the thing that has me excited about Oberto is his pedigree: a big man that has (successfully) spent considerable time in a motion offense and makes good decisions on court is really rare. He's got better hands than Nazr and is already more effective offensively than Rasho.

The only question is the Spurs defensive system. If Oberto can master it, he'll be getting 25-30 minutes a night.

smeagol
11-02-2005, 08:18 AM
I agree with the people saying Oberto played crapy D. He was outrebounded more than once and on one occasion, Melo torched him. But his 6 points were good, with at least one, if not more, coming off O rebounds.

Taco
11-02-2005, 08:35 AM
Reggie Miller said that "Humberto" is going to be good!!!

Gino2882
11-02-2005, 08:41 AM
Oberto looked OK, he will improve on defense.

ManuTastic
11-02-2005, 08:45 AM
and on one occasion, Melo torched him.
Melo also torched everyone including Bowen. Can't blame O-to for that.

Oberto looked like a newcomer to the squad,which he is. He looked like he knows how to play ball, just needs to adjust. Give him time before judging.

Rasho made some nice plays, including D. He's never going to make anyone forget Olajuwon, but he's serviceable for what we need of him.

Nazr is still the best option at C, IMO. He's more active on rebounding and scrapping down low. When he and Tim were in together in the 2nd half they pretty much owned the paint on both ends. Of course Denver is not a powerhouse team down low (thanks for acting like the punk you are, K-Mart), but then who is (besides any team w/Shaq)?

ploto
11-02-2005, 08:57 AM
Nazr sucked defensively. That is what Pop was so mad about. He still has not a clue where to be.

And how was Nazr more active in rebounding? He had ONE rebound in 10 minutes.

drivanroca
11-02-2005, 10:07 AM
Oberto looked like a newcomer to the squad,which he is. He looked like he knows how to play ball, just needs to adjust. Give him time before judging.



:tu

wildbill2u
11-02-2005, 11:11 AM
We have the beginnings of a great season-long center controversy: Which of the Spurs centers is the worst?

MiNuS
11-02-2005, 11:17 AM
The only thing I can say about Oberto is that my wife asked who he was,then looked at Manu,said she didn't like his short hair and then kept looking at Oberto.

I gave her the "eyes" she returned the look and that was that. Women throw away the "Ginobili's Girl" t-shirt and grab the "Fabri's Girl" t-shirt! FAST!

Mavs<Spurs
11-02-2005, 01:25 PM
Najera should buy a lotto ticket tonight with all those lucky jumpers. He would have given steve kerr a run for his money tonight.

Exactly. When I saw him taking those jumpers, I thought hey that's the kind of shot they we want Denver to take. He didn't miss a single one.

Am I wrong? I don't recall him being a good consistent shooter. Hey, even Lindsay Hunter had a good night during game 4 in the Finals (or was it game 3 ).

I have to say Oberto's shot did not look good. No arc on the ball at all. Flat, hard fast ball without rotation. He will not be a consistent shooter. Although I don't think of Najera as a good shooter, his form is a lot better than Oberto's.

Oberto is undersized, but sometimes there can be a place for them. He is smart about going to the basket (cutting after screens), he is a good passer and he will be a good role player. He will be an asset to our team, just not a person who will be a centerpiece, more of a supporting role.

leemajors
11-02-2005, 01:53 PM
we will give najera and camby those outside shots all day. they will not make them all the time. i can't believe najera made that many of them, but you can live with that.

ChumpDumper
11-02-2005, 01:55 PM
I'll give Eddie the jumpers, but letting him dribble circles around you for an easy layup is ridiculous. Fabri has a way to go.

waly.mg
11-02-2005, 04:55 PM
Oberto is undersized


I donīt agree

Nazr Mohammed
San Antonio Spurs
Position: C
Height: 6-10 Weight: 250
College : Kentucky


Fabricio Oberto
San Antonio Spurs
Position: F
Height: 6-10 Weight: 245
From : Argentina

Oberto may be only 5 Pounds undersized

Kori Ellis
11-02-2005, 04:56 PM
Nazr is 6'10 3/4 without shoes.

I'd bet Oberto is 6'8 without shoes.

MiNuS
11-02-2005, 04:58 PM
I donīt agree

Nazr Mohammed
San Antonio Spurs
Position: C
Height: 6-10 Weight: 250
College : Kentucky


Fabricio Oberto
San Antonio Spurs
Position: F
Height: 6-10 Weight: 245
From : Argentina

Oberto may be only 5 Pounds undersized
Nazr is good on teh boards for rebounds but on the offensive side once he pump fakes he loses inches,alot of inches. So Oberto is not undersized vs Pump fakin' Mohhamad.

timvp
11-02-2005, 05:06 PM
Oberto didn't look great, but I can see the potential. He's really smart -- almost Robert Horry smart. He knows where to go on the offensive end. That is something that Nazr and Rasho will never figure out.

His mistakes were correctable. I worry a little about his size, but I think he'll be fine next to Duncan.

I still think that he'll end up starting before long.

grjr
11-02-2005, 05:08 PM
Exactly. When I saw him taking those jumpers, I thought hey that's the kind of shot they we want Denver to take. He didn't miss a single one.

Am I wrong? I don't recall him being a good consistent shooter. Hey, even Lindsay Hunter had a good night during game 4 in the Finals (or was it game 3 ).


I'm wondering if Najera did some work with Chip last year at Denver. I sure don't remember him having the shooting stroke he has now.

MiNuS
11-02-2005, 05:20 PM
I'm wondering if Najera did some work with Chip last year at Denver. I sure don't remember him having the shooting stroke he has now.
It surprised me too! Najera kept hitting and hitting,I'm pretty sure the Mexican news kept replaying and replaying Najera's losing heroics and blamed Kmart for the Nuggetts demise.

waly.mg
11-02-2005, 05:38 PM
In a few matchups Oberto can have problems

Vs Shaq, vs Garnett, vs J OīNEAL, or Yao, but every center in the NBA have the sames problems, If Shaq can try to stop his Twin, have the same problems too

When you have a great center, this guy is unstoppable, Shaq canīt work with Kareem Abdul Jabbarīs Skyhook or Hakeem's Dreamshake

Malik Rose had better defense over Shaq than Rasho

And if the Center is going to score more than 20 Points, the best choice is if you have one guy who can make the same thing

Rasho or Nazr canīt score 20 points, but Oberto have a chance

Oberto can take fouls of the Centers, and Nazr too, if they fouled Oberto or Nazr, they canīt make fouls to TD

Thatīs the reason why Nazr is better than Rasho

With Oberto in the team you canīt double TD, beacuse Oberto alone is more dangerous than Nazr or Rasho

Spurologist
11-02-2005, 05:46 PM
Najera just had one of his better nights against Oberto. Hopefully Oberto gets much better in Pop's system, because nothing stood out from his play. He has a weird shot line drive release, but he did knock one shot down. He made some easy layups. It is some of rebounds that concerned me. He seemed to just let Canby grab rebounds over him. I don't know if he's only used to just getting space and grabbing rebounds. I don't think that will work in the nba for him. He needs to jump and box out because the nba has too many great athletes. Overall he did fine.

Trainwreck2100
11-02-2005, 05:58 PM
3 words

oompa deflected Ball

jcrod
11-02-2005, 06:10 PM
Overall I wasn't impressed, but it was the first game, so I'm not worried yet. What kept irking me was his rebonding. Several times he was in postion, but seemed to be easily out jumped for them, even though he had his man boxed out.