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romsey31
11-02-2005, 08:24 PM
Second time in two years Nuggest lose a player for the season on the opener

boutons
11-02-2005, 08:26 PM
Sucks. I really liked his "Like Tim" fro.

Oh, Gee!!
11-02-2005, 08:26 PM
Shut up!!

BronxCowboy
11-02-2005, 08:27 PM
My sympathies to Nene. That really sucks.

T Park
11-02-2005, 08:28 PM
What is it, torn ACL?

samikeyp
11-02-2005, 08:29 PM
That does suck. Denver is snakebit of late.

spurs=bling
11-02-2005, 08:31 PM
I feel sorry for him. i cringed when i saw it.

romsey31
11-02-2005, 08:31 PM
What is it, torn ACL?

Yup!

Oh, Gee!!
11-02-2005, 08:33 PM
I feel sorry for him. i cringed when i saw it.


It didn't look bad on the replay. Kinda look like he slipped-I definitely didn't think the injury would end his season.

angel_luv
11-02-2005, 08:36 PM
Poor guy. I am sorry for him.

T Park
11-02-2005, 08:36 PM
I thought I could see something like move on his knee RIGHT BEFORE he hit the floor.

Probobly nothing.

But as soon as he grabbed for his knee IMMEDIATELY after falling and not putting weight on it?? It was serious.


Shame, that really puts a big hurt to the Nuggets.

Najera takes over as the primary big off the bench. Too bad someone TOOK HIM ALREADY in fantasy basketball.

Taco
11-02-2005, 08:57 PM
Damn

That Sucks

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand
11-02-2005, 08:57 PM
That sucks, all injuries are bad, but Nene is great person, I think he'll be able to overcome the injury and return in good shape.

Reggie Miller
11-02-2005, 08:57 PM
Not to gloat, because frankly, I don't care who wins the NW. However, it shows why those "cute" picks like Denver and Indiana never work out. Any little thing goes wrong (and this isn't small), and you're pretty much out of it.

By "cute," I mean a prediction based on what a group of players could or ought to do, rather than what they have done. You can almost see someone like Dan LeRetard thinking "I'll look like a genius if they win! Hahahaha!"

History shows that a team can only rarely go from Nowheresville to a Championship. Could Denver finish second in the West (before this injury)? Maybe. Would it matter? Sure...to Denver, for the future.

ro_50
11-02-2005, 09:00 PM
I wonder how much of this will impact his impending free agency after the season.

I think he will still get a decent offer from someone, provided they do all the tests required to make sure that leg is ok next year.

Reggie Miller
11-02-2005, 09:09 PM
I feel bad for him in a lot of ways, because some injuries are more psychological than anything. Mostly, we talk about the player's psyche, but how many times have you seen a team give up on someone just because of an injury?

He's still young, which really helps. That wall you hit at @30 isn't very forgiving.

EDIT: Based on what I have seen since Karl took over the team, if you dump Martin, Denver is fairly likeable. They play hard, and they seem to have a clue.

TOP-CHERRY
11-02-2005, 09:12 PM
Not to gloat, because frankly, I don't care who wins the NW. However, it shows why those "cute" picks like Denver and Indiana never work out. Any little thing goes wrong (and this isn't small), and you're pretty much out of it.

By "cute," I mean a prediction based on what a group of players could or ought to do, rather than what they have done. You can almost see someone like Dan LeRetard thinking "I'll look like a genius if they win! Hahahaha!"

History shows that a team can only rarely go from Nowheresville to a Championship. Could Denver finish second in the West (before this injury)? Maybe. Would it matter? Sure...to Denver, for the future.
Deep.

spurs=bling
11-02-2005, 09:14 PM
It didn't look bad on the replay. Kinda look like he slipped-I definitely didn't think the injury would end his season.


when your there it looks bad. well for me it did.

Reggie Miller
11-02-2005, 09:16 PM
Deep.

Thanks. That's why I picked "Streaky Guard." :smokin

Kori Ellis
11-02-2005, 09:41 PM
I bet the Nuggets are pissed, seeing as they've been trying to trade him.

Sucks for Nene. I hope he has a speedy, full recovery.

spurschick
11-02-2005, 09:51 PM
That does suck to go out the first game. I almost took him in the fantasy draft. Guess I'll just have to make do with Manu the Gimp.

caŽlo
11-02-2005, 09:52 PM
yikes. thats sad.

xcoriate
11-02-2005, 10:19 PM
sucks for him. His a real talent too, he should be starting somewhere.

ata
11-02-2005, 11:24 PM
That sucks for Nene, big time.

He is on the last year of his contract. i guess he regrets, that he hasn't sign an extraction with Denver.

ChumpDumper
11-02-2005, 11:29 PM
Nene took out an insurance policy in case he had a career ender, so he had all bases covered.

All this is just a ploy by Kroenke to drive down Nene's market value.

boutons
11-03-2005, 02:00 AM
then Nuggets get beat @home in 2nd game of season, 0-2, by Kobe's jumper with 0.6 remaining in OT.

alamo50
11-03-2005, 03:58 AM
Good news for the dutch guy!!!

http://www.nba.com/media/uk/elson1024x768.jpg

But I do feel sorry for Nene and Kiki.

NuGGeTs-FaN
11-03-2005, 04:11 AM
then Nuggets get beat @home in 2nd game of season, 0-2, by Kobe's jumper with 0.6 remaining in OT.


it wont happen again.........Karl is back next game and will get our guys into a proper rotation and rhythm....

i never realised till now how much a coach can screw a team up, Brooks sucks :pctoss

alamo50
11-03-2005, 04:33 AM
Don't be so hard on one of your own.
That way it will be a looooooooooong season bro.
You just lost to the best team in basketball and not even George "Cry me a River" Karl could have done anything to prevent that from happening.

wildbill2u
11-03-2005, 12:43 PM
I bet the Nuggets are pissed, seeing as they've been trying to trade him.

Sucks for Nene. I hope he has a speedy, full recovery.

Didn't Nene just turn down an extension offer by the Nuggets? If his injury turns out to be limiting even after rehab the Nuggets will have dodged a bullet.

But regardless, Nene's value as a free agent will have gone down and that sucks for him as a player. Just shows what a chancy thing a player's health is in the NBA.

CosmicCowboy
11-03-2005, 12:57 PM
an article from last week:

Nene, Nuggets no closer to deal

Power forward isn't expecting extension by Monday deadline

By Aaron J. Lopez, Rocky Mountain News
October 25, 2005

They were the kind of plays that make NBA executives drool in dollar signs.

Displaying the footwork of a Chicago cast member, Nene spun underneath the basket and gently laid the ball through the hoop.

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A few minutes later, he stole the ball near the top of the key and led a fast break the other direction.

In a half-court set, Nene weighed his options in the low post and fired a one-handed pass to Andre Miller on the opposite side of the court for a wide-open jump shot.

It should be noted the series of plays came near the end of practice Monday, but it summed up Nene's potential value as he prepares to start down the path that all perspective free agents dream about: the contract year.

With less than one week remaining for the Denver Nuggets to sign Nene to a contract extension, it appears the fourth-year power forward will become a restricted free- agent in the summer.

The deadline for negotiating an extension is Monday, and there has been little movement between the Nuggets and agent Michael Coyne.

"I know my price," Nene said. "I know my price. I know I'm going to do good this season."

When it comes to 23-year-old, 6-foot-11, 260-pound forwards who can run the floor and move people out of the low block, it is a seller's market.

Nene has taken out an insurance policy against injury in the event he plays out the final year of his Nuggets deal. He said Monday he does not expect to sign an extension in the next six days.

Nene, who has averaged 10.7 points and 6.2 rebounds in his first three seasons, is believed to be seeking a deal similar to the six-year, $64 million contract Philadelphia 76ers center Samuel Dalembert signed in July.

Dalembert has averaged 6.9 points and 6.6 rebounds in three seasons. He spent 2002-03 on the injured list.

"Nowadays, they're letting anybody get big money on the free- agent market," Nuggets center Marcus Camby said. "Nene's probably the best running big man we have in this league. Regardless, he going to get paid, either here or from somebody else."

Before worrying about his contract, Nene is trying to find some consistency on the court.

A strained right hamstring limited him through the first two weeks of training camp, but he has looked good in the Nuggets' past three preseason games, averaging 9.3 points and 6.0 rebounds in 22.3 minutes.

"He's not there yet, but he's a big guy for us that takes up a lot more room in the middle than anybody else on our team, and we need him to be healthy and ready to go for the regular season," coach George Karl said.

Assistant Adrian Dantley, who has worked closely with Nene since 2003, has been pleased with Nene's preseason performances and believes he can be among the league's top rebounders on a per-minute basis.

"Everybody always thinks he can do better than what he's doing, but he's progressing just fine," Dantley said.

Nene said the hamstring is back to normal, but he still needs to improve his conditioning. He and the Nuggets have one more week before their opening game, against the defending champion Spurs in San Antonio.

"If you talk about defense, it's good, but offense, I need confidence," Nene said.

"I'm in shape, but I want a little bit more. I want to be fast. I'm not slow, but I want more. I want to run. I want to do a lot."

The Nuggets would like to see Nene at full strength and full speed. The lure of a big contract often brings out the best in professional athletes, and his trade value would be enhanced by strong numbers.

"It helps me as a coach," Karl said. "I think, in general, there's a better focus. I think there's an upswing (in performance)."

INJURY UPDATE: Kenyon Martin was limited in practice because of soreness in his surgically repaired left knee, but Camby looked strong after missing the past five games because of a sore left foot.

"I was surprised (Martin) didn't practice, but he's just being real cautious," Karl said. "He feels some tendinitis developing. He's going to have to learn how to cope with it.

"We've kind of had an injury history since I've been here. We need to conquer that. That's not how you get better. Practice is where you get better, and we've got to have that attitude."

Also, swingman Bryon Russell had his sprained left knee examined, but results were not immediately available. Russell is among five players seeking the final spot on the Nuggets' 15-player roster.

Because of injuries, the Nuggets have not made any cuts during the preseason and still are carrying 19 players. That could change today or Wednesday.

"I'm not a big cut guy," Karl said. "I don't like cuts."

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Spurminator
11-03-2005, 12:58 PM
Did Earl Watson play at all in the last two games?

You would thing Brooks would have tried to do something to stop guys named Parker from abusing his team.

50 cent
11-03-2005, 01:26 PM
I thought it was season ending as soon as I saw the replay. At first I thought maybe he and Tim had hit knee-to-knee, but then after seeing the replay there was no contact which is actually a bad thing in that situation.

Poor guy, that's unfortunate.

NuGGeTs-FaN
11-03-2005, 01:34 PM
Did Earl Watson play at all in the last two games?

You would thing Brooks would have tried to do something to stop guys named Parker from abusing his team.


thats the crazy thing, the nuggets have arguably the best defensive PG in the league on the bench and he isnt used. It has made us all very mad and curious........im sure Karl will play him on friday :spin

Kori Ellis
11-03-2005, 01:35 PM
I heard he was banged up before the Spurs game and wouldn't play, maybe he's just not healthy.

slayermin
11-03-2005, 01:43 PM
I heard he was banged up before the Spurs game and wouldn't play, maybe he's just not healthy.

I think Marv Albert said he had a hamstring problem in one leg and a knee problem caused by the hamstring in the other.

Maybe he ended up hurting his knee against the Spurs becuase he was overcompensating for the hamstring.

NuGGeTs-FaN
11-03-2005, 01:46 PM
I heard he was banged up before the Spurs game and wouldn't play, maybe he's just not healthy.


i heard somewhere he had a small injury but nothing much was said about him not playing because of it, it baffles me still but anyway its a different ball game for us starting friday :spin :hat

Kori Ellis
11-03-2005, 01:48 PM
I think Marv Albert said he had a hamstring problem in one leg and a knee problem caused by the hamstring in the other.

Maybe he ended up hurting his knee against the Spurs becuase he was overcompensating for the hamstring.

He didn't play against the Spurs.

slayermin
11-03-2005, 01:51 PM
He didn't play against the Spurs.

My bad. You were talking about Earl Watson. I thought you were talking about Nene.

Tobias
11-03-2005, 01:57 PM
Denver dodged a bullet by not giving him an extension...

smauricio
11-03-2005, 01:58 PM
i picked him in nba fantasy.... :depressed :depressed :depressed
and im brazilian, like him....

spurs_fan_in_exile
11-03-2005, 02:01 PM
Well, I can't say I'm surprised. There was something in the way his knee twisted that reminded me alot of how Dante Culpepper went down last week. That front court is going to look even weaker once Marcus Camby hurts himself like he always does.

The Spurs are bad news for the knees of opponents with funny names. Last year it was Andre Kirilenko, now it's Nene Hilario. If I'm Vitaly Potopenko or Deji Akindele I'm sweating my next game in San Antonio.