View Full Version : US Assasinates top Iranian general in Iraq. It is a declaration of war but will there be one?
boutons_deux
01-04-2020, 04:33 PM
After Mossad Targeted Soleimani,
Trump Pulled the Trigger
Last October Yossi Cohen, head of Israel’s
Mossad, spoke openly about assassinating Iranian general Qassem Soleimani,
the head of the elite Quds Force in Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps.
“He knows very well that his assassination is not impossible,” Cohen said
“With all due respect to his bluster,” Cohen said,
“he hasn’t necessarily committed the mistake yet
that would place him on the prestigious list of Mossad’s assassination targets.”
Netanyahu, under indictment for criminal charges,
was the first and only national leader to support Trump’s action,
while claiming that that Trump acted entirely on his own. :lol
After proclaiming his intention to end America’s “stupid endless wars,” (https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/1181896127471333381)
the president has effectively
declared war on the largest country in the region
in solidarity with Israel, the most unpopular country in the Middle East.
https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/03/after-mossad-targeted-soleimani-trump-pulled-the-trigger/ (https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/01/03/after-mossad-targeted-soleimani-trump-pulled-the-trigger/)
TheGreatYacht
01-04-2020, 04:50 PM
Trump Kills #1 Enemy Of Isis In Iran, WTF?
https://youtu.be/wjWllto0Xzg
U.S. News Coverage Of Iran Laughably Horrible
https://youtu.be/4TZqRabzbZg
hater
Winehole23
01-04-2020, 04:55 PM
Are you also antisemitic?I make an effort not to be be; I'm a philosemite, but no one's perfect.
Why do you ask?
thread
https://mobile.twitter.com/ksadjadpour/status/1213162227542495238
ChumpDumper
01-04-2020, 05:17 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1213497949705125888
https://mobile.twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1213501545356185603How many people in that huge crowd?
ChumpDumper
01-04-2020, 05:17 PM
thread
https://mobile.twitter.com/ksadjadpour/status/1213162227542495238You enlisting?
hater
01-04-2020, 05:18 PM
:lol says the poster dropping 3x tweets with exact same story, then disavowing the importance of them.
:lol end of world, pro Iranian Columbian Spurs fan.
I always post like that niga. especially on my threads
you havent worked this hard since your Stephen Curry thread :lmao
ChumpDumper
01-04-2020, 05:20 PM
I always post like that niga. especially on my threads
you havent worked this hard since your Stephen Curry thread :lmao:lol Remember when DMC said he didn't care about anything and refused to say anything about Trump?
hater
01-04-2020, 05:21 PM
thread
https://mobile.twitter.com/ksadjadpour/status/1213162227542495238
no man in this world has worked harder to defeat ISIS tbqh
#ISISAirforce
hater
01-04-2020, 05:22 PM
:lol Remember when DMC said he didn't care about anything and refused to say anything about Trump?
no man in this world has worked harder not to care :lol
TheGreatYacht
01-04-2020, 05:48 PM
no man in this world has worked harder not to care :lol
DMC could not resist the massive liberal bashing of Trump so had to go full blown neocon. He said it himself. Facts don't matter to him cuz they don't fit his narrative.
#PartyOverPrinciples
I think deep down inside he knows the CIA is lying but he's more concerned about triggering the libs and defending Trump at all costs. To him it's just another group of muslims getting killed.
On the other hand Chris DarrinS and TSA actually do believe everything Mike Pompeo and the CIA are saying.
Maybe I'm being nice to DMC giving him too much credit and thinking he's smarter than he really is :lol
ElNono
01-04-2020, 05:50 PM
I think there’s like 5 different people who post from that account, the conflicting political views never end.
:lol
ElNono
01-04-2020, 05:53 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1213497949705125888
https://mobile.twitter.com/ComfortablySmug/status/1213501545356185603
It actually has a name. It’s called propaganda.
DMC assailing strawmen hammer and tongs. He carries a shield for Trump and every boneheaded thing he does.
Claims others on this board are ideologically slanted when it’s their guy in office. Can’t name names when asked.
I make an effort not to be be; I'm a philosemite, but no one's perfect.
Why do you ask?
It seems to be ok here to hate Jews. There are a number of posters who do it regularly and they seem to get away with it. It makes me think many others feel the same way and just remain silent. Maybe the Gay Jews are more socially acceptable?
Claims others on this board are ideologically slanted when it’s their guy in office. Can’t name names when asked.
:lol partisanship is a myth
:lol partisanship is a myth
I don’t see anyone named in this post
Apparently DMC is incapable of believing that partisanship exists and posters here have called bullshit on team blue.
Funny for a guy who must think he’s really smart
I always post like that niga. especially on my threads
you havent worked this hard since your Stephen Curry thread :lmao
So you're always erratic and full of shit. Somehow that's an out to you. :lol
Apparently DMC is incapable of believing that partisanship exists and posters here have called bullshit on team blue.
Funny for a guy who must think he’s really smart
I am the one who said partisanship exists - speaking of smart. Do you mean "bipartisanship"?
Winehole23
01-04-2020, 06:07 PM
It seems to be ok here to hate Jews. There are a number of posters who do it regularly and they seem to get away with it. It makes me think many others feel the same way and just remain silent. Maybe the Gay Jews are more socially acceptable?I razz a number of posters on the reg for posting anti-Jewish shite.
If you feel there's a dearth of call outs, please feel free to participate.
I am the one who said partisanship exists - speaking of smart. Do you mean "bipartisanship"?
No I meant what I said. Not surprising you didn’t comprehend it. Or name names.
hater
01-04-2020, 06:09 PM
So you're always erratic and full of shit. Somehow that's an out to you. :lol
and you seem not to care so much that you posted over 40 times here today :lmao :lol
for someone not caring so much you have taken my thread to 11 pages in 24 hrs :lol
No I meant what I said. Not surprising you didn’t comprehend it. Or name names.
So I am incapable of believing something exists that I claim exists? :lol
Spurminator
01-04-2020, 06:10 PM
What's really funny is watching you gender confused leftists panic over this like Iran is going to come through your doors tonight and beat your asses. Some of you going so far as to issue apologies to Iran via Twitter :lol
Me: Look at the idiots in this forum being idiots.
You: Oh yeah? But idiots on Twitter. (Proceeds to post on SpursTalk for another 16 hours straight)
and you seem not to care so much that you posted over 40 times here today :lmao :lol
for someone not caring so much you have taken my thread to 11 pages in 24 hrs :lol
Ok Red Flag :lol
:lol here comes the ST Avengers! :lol
Spurminator
01-04-2020, 06:14 PM
:lol here comes the ST Avengers! :lol
Posts for 16 hours straight, replies to literally every post, gets responses to his replies, accuses others of ganging up on him.
:lol God you're a pussy.
boutons_deux
01-04-2020, 06:14 PM
Undermining White House's Public Line, US Officials Say Justification for Soleimani Assassination 'Razor Thin'
"They're lying to distract from impeachment.
They're lying to get us to war.
They're lying to shore up reelection.
Don't buy any of it."
the evidence is sparse to non-existent.
"the evidence suggesting there was to be an imminent attack on American targets is 'razor thin,'"
"In fact the evidence pointing to that came as three discrete facts," Callimachi wrote.
Those three facts, according to Callimachi, were
Soleimani's "pattern of travel,"
his request for the Iranian Supreme Leader's approval for an unspecified "operation," and
Iran's supposed "increasingly bellicose position towards American interests in Iraq."
"As one source put it, a) + b) + c) is
hardly evidence of an imminent attack on American interests that could kill hundreds, as the White House has since claimed," Callimachi wrote.
"The official describes the reading of the intelligence as an illogical leap."
https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/01/04/undermining-white-houses-public-line-us-officials-say-justification-soleimani?cd-origin=rss
So I am incapable of believing something exists that I claim exists? :lol
There’s more than one type of poster and ideology here. But deflect harder, no ones missing that you can’t back up your shit take with a single example.
Me: Look at the idiots in this forum being idiots.
You: Oh yeah? But idiots on Twitter. (Proceeds to post on SpursTalk for another 16 hours straight)
:lol You - semen shielding for the left again
:hat Me - Calling you out on it
:lol You - Lying about your intent
:hat Me - Calling you out on it again
:lol You - :cry
apalisoc_9
01-04-2020, 06:17 PM
the queen has spoken
https://twitter.com/TulsiGabbard/status/1213266872449159168?s=20
i mean trump is stupid. But lol at calling it trumps war. Demoshits have done far worse atrocities than trump.
There’s more than one type of poster and ideology here. But deflect harder, no ones missing that you can’t back up your shit take with a single example.
So? You said I cannot believe partisanship exists. Sure I can. I said so. You need to try harder to make sense, email someone.
So you want a single example of someone defending their boy while attacking everything on the other side of the isle? Really? :lol
Posts for 16 hours straight, replies to literally every post, gets responses to his replies, accuses others of ganging up on him.
:lol God you're a pussy.
Like you'd know what a pussy is :lol
So? You said I cannot believe partisanship exists. Sure I can. I said so. You need to try harder to make sense, email someone.
So you want a single example of someone defending their boy while attacking everything on the other side of the isle? Really? :lol
Again, not what I said. Try harder.
The original question was: did I?
Apparently DMC is incapable of believing that partisanship exists and posters here have called bullshit on team blue.
Funny for a guy who must think he’s really smart
Again, not what I said. Try harder.
The original question was: did I?
Sure :lol
Plenty posters have called bullshit on team blue, mostly team red. There are a few middle of the road types, I've acknowledged it.
hater
01-04-2020, 06:28 PM
i mean trump is stupid. But lol at calling it trumps war. Demoshits have done far worse atrocities than trump.
if there is a war w iran this year it will be Trumps war. just like iraq 2 was Ws and Lybia was Obombas
Spurtacular
01-04-2020, 06:28 PM
NYT going into overtime to promote war.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/iranians-close-ranks-behind-leaders-after-us-kills-popular-general/ar-BBYCaKi?ocid=spartanntp
The left hopes like hell there's a war with Iran, as long as Trump doesn't ring.
Spurtacular
01-04-2020, 06:30 PM
i mean trump is stupid. But lol at calling it trumps war. Demoshits have done far worse atrocities than trump.
That's exactly what it is. Stop excusing these wars made by presidents if you don't like them.
:lmao Better go find yourself some safe space, Blake's spirit animal.
Sure :lol
Plenty posters have called bullshit on team blue, mostly team red. There are a few middle of the road types, I've acknowledged it.
Both sides drop the ideology when its their guy. That's the point. People here were voting for Hillary Clinton. That should tell you all you need to know. This is a place where people take turns lobbing shit bombs at each other. If tomorrow Iran said "no problem, we wanted the fucker dead anyhow" people here would be saying Trump is being controlled by Iran. So it doesn't matter what the facts are. This is all about spin and shit bombs.
But please, continue self fellating as if you're saving the fuckin' world.
Don’t see any acknowledgement there. In fact, TGY called you out for it.
But if you’re acknowledging this point, then the original horseshit you posted was just ... horseshit and you’re attention whoring with inane and irrelevant jabs. Good job. You’re a real value add
Don’t see any acknowledgement there. In fact, TGY called you out for it.
But if you’re acknowledging this point, then the original horseshit you posted was just ... horseshit and you’re attention whoring with inane and irrelevant jabs. Good job. You’re a real value add
I have TGBY on ignore so I wouldn't know what that fucker says.
So I didn't say it in the one post you quoted ergo it didn't happen.
What exactly has your contribution been oh great counsel who's cost is beyond my scope of financial ability?
I have TGBY on ignore so I wouldn't know what that fucker says.
So I didn't say it in the one post you quoted ergo it didn't happen.
What exactly has your contribution been oh great counsel who's cost is beyond my scope of financial ability?
>> shit take that doesn’t apply
>> gets called out for shit take
>> “Oh that’s what I meant all the time”
Still can’t name names. Still trying to deflect. It’s ok if you have nothing substantive to say buddy
TheGreatYacht
01-04-2020, 06:55 PM
I have TGBY on ignore so I wouldn't know what that fucker says.
So I didn't say it in the one post you quoted ergo it didn't happen.
What exactly has your contribution been oh great counsel who's cost is beyond my scope of financial ability?
What a snowflake...needs his safe space just like Snowflake in Chief :lol
>> shit take that doesn’t apply
>> gets called out for shit take
>> “Oh that’s what I meant all the time”
Still can’t name names. Still trying to deflect. It’s ok if you have nothing substantive to say buddy
So you've offered nothing. Got it.
Winehole23
01-04-2020, 07:07 PM
vy65 did offer an accurate description of you, DMC.
You're a Whitman's Sampler of rhetorical fallacies these days.
TheGreatYacht
01-04-2020, 07:20 PM
Democrats Pretend To Oppose Iran Attack They Enabled
https://youtu.be/rR2ZMduQE2s
apalisoc_9
01-04-2020, 07:37 PM
Democrats Pretend To Oppose Iran Attack They Enabled
https://youtu.be/rR2ZMduQE2s
Good vid scrah
Ghazi
01-04-2020, 09:34 PM
Marg bar Amreeka
hater
01-04-2020, 09:44 PM
Marg bar Amreeka
CNN interviewed an Iranian American who was with team USA but said Iran has been preparing for war wit US for decades and have lots of surprises and wishes Iran will not get a chance to show them
is this true ma niga?
CNN interviewed an Iranian American who was with team USA but said Iran has been preparing for war wit US for decades and have lots of surprises and wishes Iran will not get a chance to show them
is this true ma niga?
Guess who stopped smoking this morning?
Soleimani
hater
01-04-2020, 11:45 PM
Guess who stopped smoking this morning?
Soleimani
thats your 51th post today niga on this subject alone
yeah you dont care :lmao
TheGreatYacht
01-04-2020, 11:48 PM
Iran War Escalation Analysis by US Marine Vet - Angelo John Gage
https://youtu.be/JE7oC7bv1G4
hater
01-04-2020, 11:48 PM
:lmao
https://twitter.com/GlobalConflict8/status/1213635845728751624?s=20
thats your 51th post today niga on this subject alone
yeah you dont care :lmao
:lol You have 73 posts in this thread
:lmao
hater
01-04-2020, 11:58 PM
:lol You have 73 posts in this thread
:lmao
yeah I care
you keep saying you dont care :lmao. yet you are keeping up with my post count :lmao
hater
01-04-2020, 11:58 PM
https://twitter.com/sanasaeed/status/1213678900611555328?s=21
yeah I care
you keep saying you dont care :lmao. yet you are keeping up with my post count :lmao
I care about you though.
75
hater
01-04-2020, 11:59 PM
:lmao its happening
get the fuck out USA
you lost Iraq :lmao
https://twitter.com/drnaqvi11011/status/1213685542946246656?s=21
hater
01-05-2020, 12:00 AM
im staying up till the vote is official nigas
DMC is staying up w me Although he does not care :lmao
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 12:03 AM
I care about you though.Fucking weirdo.
hater
01-05-2020, 12:03 AM
:lmao
https://twitter.com/kuhandharmaraja/status/1213687067919536128?s=21
#theexit
#ISISAirforce
hater
01-05-2020, 12:05 AM
:lmao Trumps stupidity actually got us out of Iraq
genius :lol
https://twitter.com/beepboopin/status/1213661290540888065?s=21
hater
01-05-2020, 12:44 AM
:lmao :lol :lmao :lol
https://twitter.com/goldenboy_254/status/1213380766010400768?s=21
Splits
01-05-2020, 06:21 AM
1213741775430529024
Splits
01-05-2020, 07:34 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9puLBIX48M
hater
01-05-2020, 08:24 AM
#theexit
https://twitter.com/baxtiyargoran/status/1213812515618066432?s=21
hater
01-05-2020, 08:25 AM
or not
https://twitter.com/mattmcbradley/status/1213804606423220226?s=21
hater
01-05-2020, 09:24 AM
https://twitter.com/mustafa_salimb/status/1213822979882143744?s=21
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 09:38 AM
Trash says he will bomb Iran cultural/civilian sites which is a war crime, in the long tradition of American war crimes.
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 09:41 AM
Already ambushed and repulsed by Trash killing Iran's military chief ...
Pentagon officials would revolt against ‘catastrophic’ Trump order to bomb Iran mosques: ISIS expert
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/pentagon-officials-would-revolt-against-catastrophic-trump-order-to-bomb-iran-mosques-isis-expert/ (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/pentagon-officials-would-revolt-against-catastrophic-trump-order-to-bomb-iran-mosques-isis-expert/)
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 09:41 AM
https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/01/Donald_Trump_Iran_Genius_1088x725-700x470.jpg
hater
01-05-2020, 09:41 AM
its official
US just lost Iraq :lmao
https://twitter.com/ejmalrai/status/1213830650786131969?s=21
#theexit
#ISISAirforce
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 09:50 AM
Pentagon Officials Reportedly “Stunned” by Trump’s Decision to Kill Soleimani
Pentagon officials usually include a far-out option when they present possibilities to the president in order to make the others seem less extreme.
The other options presented to Trump in Mar-a-Lago, his Palm Beach resort, included strikes against Iranian ships or missile facilities or militias backed by Iran that are operating in Iraq.
“The Pentagon also tacked on the choice of targeting General Suleimani, mainly to make other options seem reasonable,” reports the Times.
At first, it seemed everything was going according to plan.
Trump rejected the option to kill Soleimani
to respond to a wave of recent Iranian-sponsored violence in Iraq .
Instead, he authorized airstrikes against an Iranian-supported militia group, Kataib Hezbollah.
The strikes ended up hitting three locations in Iraq and two in Syria.
Trump became increasingly angry at the images he saw on television as protesters stormed the embassy. :lol
failing to respond to the protests would look weak. :lol (nobody in the Embassy was killed)
it is unclear whether top military officials pushed back against Trump’s decision.
there continues to be skepticism (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/claim-soleimani-targeted-imminent-attack-razor-thin-evidence.html) about that claim as
the administration has failed to provide convincing evidence to make its case.
“My staff was briefed by a number of people representing a variety of agencies in the United States government and
they came away with no feeling that there was evidence of an imminent attack,”
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/pentagon-officials-reportedly-stunned-trump-kill-soleimani.html (https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/01/pentagon-officials-reportedly-stunned-trump-kill-soleimani.html)
I expect Iran/Iraq's spies know who and where the US Generals are.
hater
01-05-2020, 09:57 AM
Hezbolah leqder just declared war on US
“all US bases all over are now targets”
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 10:34 AM
Muh government says Suleimani was a terrorist :cry
Muh pentagon says Suleimani was a terrosts :cry
Muh Trump says so :cry
I believe them :lol
Deepstate good :lol
Trump drained the swamp :lol
Chris DMC TSA
Spurs Homer
01-05-2020, 10:46 AM
Gives up iraq
gives away syria
what next?
hater
01-05-2020, 10:49 AM
https://twitter.com/ShawnRouney999/status/1213847322196684801
hater
01-05-2020, 10:55 AM
https://twitter.com/marcorubio/status/1213839915190013959
:lmao marco Rubio :lmao
back to his Kurdistan fantasy :lmao :lol :lol :lmao
this lunatic has completely lost it :lol
:lol Guaido is Venezuelas president
:lol there is an Independent Kurdistan in N Iraq :lol :lmao
Winehole23
01-05-2020, 10:58 AM
This hypothesis might explain Soleiman's low key security. If it's widely enough believed, it could cause counterparties to think twice about negotiating with the USA.
https://twitter.com/jricole/status/1213846124173365248?s=19
hater
01-05-2020, 11:04 AM
This hypothesis might explain Soleiman's low key security. If it's widely enough believed, it could cause counterparties to think twice about negotiating with the USA.
https://twitter.com/jricole/status/1213846124173365248?s=19
Iraqi PM just said on Iraqi Parliament that Solemani was bringing back a response to a Saudi request for peace negotiations. peace was secretly being negotiated between Iran and Saudi via Iraq. (Trumps and US was aware of this as Iraqi PM also said Trump called him to continue the negotiations)
This is why Solemani was traveling virtually unprotected. Everyone knew peace was being negotiated
This has Israel's hand all over it. They prevented these peace negotiation from happening
hater
01-05-2020, 11:08 AM
:lmao Little Marco
https://twitter.com/Boatracer77/status/1213816773327368192
Winehole23
01-05-2020, 11:14 AM
This has Israel's hand all over it. They prevented these peace negotiation from happeningWhy do you think so? Spidey sense tingling?
hater
01-05-2020, 11:15 AM
Why do you think so? Spidey sense tingling?
who is the only one celebrating after today?
who has most to gain on the destruction of peace negotiations with Iran?
hater
01-05-2020, 11:20 AM
Before the vote Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi told the parliament that he was scheduled to meet with Soleimani a day after his arrival to receive a letter from Iran to Iraq in response to a de-escalation offer Saudi Arabia had made. The U.S. assassinated Soleimani before the letter could be delivered by him.
The Prime Minister's letter to the General Secretary of the UN and the Secretary of the UNSC is here.
Foreign troops in Iraq included about 5,000 from the U.S. as well as a number of other NATO countries engaged in training Iraqi troops. There are also Turkish troops in north Iraq who fight against the PKK. Those will also have to leave but may not do so voluntarily.
Without any bases in Iraq the U.S. position in Syria will become untenable.
Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai - 14:40 UTC · Jan 5, 2020
#Iran #IRGC commander #QassemSoleimani managed to reach with his death what he couldn't reach when he was alive. That is his last spectacular act for Iran and for the "Axis of the Resistance": legislation forcing the US to withdraw and cease all kind of collaboration.
It is somehow ironic that the U.S. has spent lots of lives and money to "spread democracy" in Iraq only to be kicked out through an Iraqi parliament vote.
There is a clear danger in this act. The Trump administration is now likely to see Iraq as completely in the Iranian camp. That never was and never will be true but that is how it will be seen. The U.S. may therefore again start to pay (with Saudi money?) Sunni extremists, i.e. ISIS, to change the current situation to its advantage.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 11:22 AM
who is the only one celebrating after today?
who has most to gain on the destruction of peace negotiations with Iran?
Winehole23 had Jewish friends and family. Much like koriwhat he has a blind spot when it comes to Israel. Whenever you criticize Zionists or Jewish supremacists he takes it personal like we blaming all Jews.
who is the only one celebrating after today?
who has most to gain on the destruction of peace negotiations with Iran?
So Saudi dropped a dime on the time and place to the US.
Winehole23
01-05-2020, 11:40 AM
who is the only one celebrating after today?
who has most to gain on the destruction of peace negotiations with Iran?KSA/UAE would be just as reasonable an inference.
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 11:42 AM
Pompeo pounded by ex-ambassador for trying to
blame Obama for Trump’s Iran assassination mess
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/pompeo-pounded-by-ex-ambassador-for-trying-to-blame-obama-for-trumps-iran-assassination-mess/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/pompeo-pounded-by-ex-ambassador-for-trying-to-blame-obama-for-trumps-iran-assassination-mess/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29)
hater
01-05-2020, 11:43 AM
KSA/UAE would be just as reasonable an inference.
you think Saudi wants a war with Iran?? It was Saudi who requested the negotiations
in a war Saudi would be the first to go up in flames. they are in a tough spot and want no part of a real war
pgardn
01-05-2020, 11:44 AM
https://twitter.com/ShawnRouney999/status/1213847322196684801
Now he uses CNN as a model for statements.
But, But... the CIA runs The NY Times.
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 11:44 AM
So Saudi dropped a dime on the time and place to the US.
KSA/UAE would be just as reasonable an inference.
Alex Jones: "Blame the Saudis! The left!!!"
Too scared to say the obvious, Zionists :lmao
Bunch of pussies scared to be labeled anti-semites :lol
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 11:44 AM
Iraqi parliament votes for feckless, LOSING US military to GTFO,
and of course USA always respsects the wishes of its victim countries.
It's not a declaration of war.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 11:47 AM
who is the only one celebrating after today?
who has most to gain on the destruction of peace negotiations with Iran?
The Republicans have said the deal made with Iran was a horrible idea.
Before Trump was even the Republican candidate and YOU fully backed him.
Stop it with your shit. You should be elated.
:lol thinking someone just saw this guy in the airport
:lol not getting that he was betrayed by a confidant
:lol checkers vs chess
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 11:51 AM
It's not a declaration of war.
Assassinating a very top govt official is an act of war, as are embargoes and sanctions.
Before the vote Prime Minister Adil Abdul-Mahdi told the parliament that he was scheduled to meet with Soleimani a day after his arrival to receive a letter from Iran to Iraq in response to a de-escalation offer Saudi Arabia had made. The U.S. assassinated Soleimani before the letter could be delivered by him.
The Prime Minister's letter to the General Secretary of the UN and the Secretary of the UNSC is here.
Foreign troops in Iraq included about 5,000 from the U.S. as well as a number of other NATO countries engaged in training Iraqi troops. There are also Turkish troops in north Iraq who fight against the PKK. Those will also have to leave but may not do so voluntarily.
Without any bases in Iraq the U.S. position in Syria will become untenable.
Elijah J. Magnier @ejmalrai - 14:40 UTC · Jan 5, 2020
#Iran #IRGC commander #QassemSoleimani managed to reach with his death what he couldn't reach when he was alive. That is his last spectacular act for Iran and for the "Axis of the Resistance": legislation forcing the US to withdraw and cease all kind of collaboration.
It is somehow ironic that the U.S. has spent lots of lives and money to "spread democracy" in Iraq only to be kicked out through an Iraqi parliament vote.
There is a clear danger in this act. The Trump administration is now likely to see Iraq as completely in the Iranian camp. That never was and never will be true but that is how it will be seen. The U.S. may therefore again start to pay (with Saudi money?) Sunni extremists, i.e. ISIS, to change the current situation to its advantage.
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
But the Iraqi Parliament vote doesn't mean that the U.S. military has to leave the country immediately. It's a non-binding vote, which is seen as mostly symbolic.
The 5,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq at the invitation of the country's executive branch, the Prime Minister's officer -- not Parliament. It is up to the Iraqi Prime Minister whether the troops will be expelled.
weebo
01-05-2020, 11:57 AM
Offer Iran Trump and throw in Mitch for any emotional distress we may have caused...and we're even.
Offer Iran Trump and throw in Mitch for any emotional distress we may have caused...and we're even.
Or just offer to blow them all like you're doing now.
weebo
01-05-2020, 11:59 AM
But the Iraqi Parliament vote doesn't mean that the U.S. military has to leave the country immediately. It's a non-binding vote, which is seen as mostly symbolic.
The 5,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq at the invitation of the country's executive branch, the Prime Minister's officer -- not Parliament. It is up to the Iraqi Prime Minister whether the troops will be expelled.
Who do you think Iraq's PM will side with?
Who do you think Iraq's PM will side with?
I think they will come up with a timeline for troop exit, about like they have now.
Exiting would be the best bet anyhow, and this way it appears to give the Iraqis some sovereignty instead of the appearance of being abandoned. It also gives the Trump administration plausible deniability for leaving Iraq. "we didn't abandon them, we were told to leave. Hey, it's a sovereign nation, they have that right".
-Trump pulls troops from Iraq like he promised
- Gets credit for killing Soleimani
- Skirts blame for whatever happens in Iraq afterward (at least through November).
This seems like the best case scenario for Trump, so I'd say the PM will not buck the system.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 12:04 PM
:lol thinking someone just saw this guy in the airport
:lol not getting that he was betrayed by a confidant
:lol checkers vs chess
We have had many chances to get this guy.
The timing is suspect given our affairs at home.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 12:11 PM
I think they will come up with a timeline for troop exit, about like they have now.
Exiting would be the best bet anyhow, and this way it appears to give the Iraqis some sovereignty instead of the appearance of being abandoned. It also gives the Trump administration plausible deniability for leaving Iraq. "we didn't abandon them, we were told to leave. Hey, it's a sovereign nation, they have that right".
-Trump pulls troops from Iraq like he promised
- Gets credit for killing Soleimani
- Skirts blame for whatever happens in Iraq afterward (at least through November).
This seems like the best case scenario for Trump, so I'd say the PM will not buck the system.
Just like Afghanistan.
His own party will throw a fit and we won’t leave.
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 12:14 PM
Just like Afghanistan.
His own party will throw a fit and we won’t leave.
Or another false flag attack on US ally/assets will happen preventing Trump from removing troops. Remember, everytime Trumps says he's pulling xxx troops from xxx country the opposite happens. The Zionists don't want peace in the middle east.
We have had many chances to get this guy.
The timing is suspect given our affairs at home.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-soleimani-insight/inside-the-plot-by-irans-soleimani-to-attack-u-s-forces-in-iraq-idUSKBN1Z301Z
Pelosi maybe thinks she's crippling the POTUS by Bogarting the articles of impeachment and refusing to send to the Senate, obviously she's wrong.
weebo
01-05-2020, 12:16 PM
I think they will come up with a timeline for troop exit, about like they have now.
Exiting would be the best bet anyhow, and this way it appears to give the Iraqis some sovereignty instead of the appearance of being abandoned. It also gives the Trump administration plausible deniability for leaving Iraq. "we didn't abandon them, we were told to leave. Hey, it's a sovereign nation, they have that right".
-Trump pulls troops from Iraq like he promised
- Gets credit for killing Soleimani
- Skirts blame for whatever happens in Iraq afterward (at least through November).
This seems like the best case scenario for Trump, so I'd say the PM will not buck the system.
It's time to bring the troops back home--war in the ME is pointless--things there won't change because they don't want change--ME muslims don't know anything else but oppression--once the US leaves Iran will jump in...fill in the gaps and rape that country for all its wealth and US influence in the region will go as the UK in the Sudan
pgardn
01-05-2020, 12:18 PM
Or another false flag attack on US ally/assets will happen preventing Trump from removing troops. Remember, everytime Trumps says he's pulling xxx troops from xxx country the opposite happens. The Zionists don't want peace in the middle east.
Then just like Hezbollah and Hamas.
Funded by the Islamic fringe haters like yourself.
Just like Afghanistan.
His own party will throw a fit and we won’t leave.
At that point we'd be illegally occupying a sovereign nation.
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 12:19 PM
How long will DMC keep up his Baghdad Bob act?
pgardn
01-05-2020, 12:20 PM
At that point we'd be illegally occupying a sovereign nation.
Is that like a law Trump must follow?
It's time to bring the troops back home--war in the ME is pointless--things there won't change because they don't want change--ME muslims don't know anything else but oppression--once the US leaves Iran will jump in...fill in the gaps and rape that country for all its wealth and US influence in the region will go as the UK in the Sudan
Iraq is basically a testing ground for new ordinance. In 10 years or less we'll be bombing them again in some capacity.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 12:28 PM
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-iraq-security-soleimani-insight/inside-the-plot-by-irans-soleimani-to-attack-u-s-forces-in-iraq-idUSKBN1Z301Z
Pelosi maybe thinks she's crippling the POTUS by Bogarting the articles of impeachment and refusing to send to the Senate, obviously she's wrong.
So now the game has changed?
Not when they are sending their swift boats to take US citizens.
Really... Now the game has changed, right now.
On Thursday – the day before the attack that killed Soleimani - U.S. Defense Secretary Mark Esper warned that the United States might have to take preemptive action to protect American lives from expected attacks by Iran-backed militias.
“The game has changed,” he said.
Now you’ve gone and done it....
Is that like a law Trump must follow?
I have no idea. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to set up a government and then violate the sovereignty of that government. If leaving would make Iran think the death has been avenged, it could be killing two birds with one stone.
But given the strategic nature of being there, I cannot see any administration relinquishing that willingly.
So now the game has changed?
Not when they are sending their swift boats to take US citizens.
Really... Now the game has changed, right now.
There's always a moment when the game changes. When would Trump not have been under some kind of investigation during his term? Give me an example.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 12:33 PM
I have no idea. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to set up a government and then violate the sovereignty of that government. If leaving would make Iran think the death has been avenged, it could be killing two birds with one stone.
But given the strategic nature of being there, I cannot see any administration relinquishing that willingly.
I just told you why. Discuss that with the red team who will back him on anything suspect, especially an international conflict. ‘Let’s get the Iraqis back to the table and discuss this decision still allowing the US to....’ Thanks red and some blue team members. Schumer does not want us out.
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 12:35 PM
When was Trump under impeachment?
These things have changed:
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ST Trumpettes need to spin that their Dear Leader planned all of this with muh 3D chess.
Get to it.
hater
01-05-2020, 12:37 PM
Hezbolla leader instructed not to touch american covilians but americans in uniform are fair game
Iraqi resistance will not let a single US soldier stay in Iraq after the killing of the Iranian Quds force commander, Nasrallah said in a televised speech on Sunday.
The Hezbollah leader, however, warned against harming any American civilians, as such acts will only play into the hands of US President Donald Trump, adding that every US military asset and serviceman in the region is fair game.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 12:38 PM
I have no idea. It wouldn't make a lot of sense to set up a government and then violate the sovereignty of that government. If leaving would make Iran think the death has been avenged, it could be killing two birds with one stone.
But given the strategic nature of being there, I cannot see any administration relinquishing that willingly.
I just told you why. Discuss that with the red team who will back him on anything suspect, especially an international conflict. ‘Let’s get the Iraqis back to the table and discuss this decision still allowing the US to....’ Thanks red and some blue team members. Schumer does not want us out.
hater
01-05-2020, 12:41 PM
DMC, the Iraqi parliament are the Iraqi ppl. the iraqi ppl do not want USA so USA will have to leave
will they take their sweet time? sure. but they already suspended all operations. the US has too few soldiers to sustain their presence without Iraqi guarantee of security. american generals would be madmen to force them to stay
sure american politicians are playing this off but they will have to leave no question about it
pgardn
01-05-2020, 12:42 PM
There's always a moment when the game changes. When would Trump not have been under some kind of investigation during his term? Give me an example.
Impeachment
Both sides now waiting and bargaining for the best time for the trial and the rules.
Its pretty simple.
You don’t believe domestic politics has anything to do with our actions.
I think it might.
Its not that hard.
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 12:47 PM
Come on. Trump saw the images of the US embassy kerfuffle on Fox News and chose the nuclear option out of embarrassment and fear of criticism about doing nothing.
This isn't difficult to figure out. Even DMC knows he's an impulsive ball of emo.
Impeachment
Both sides now waiting and bargaining for the best time for the trial and the rules.
Its pretty simple.
You don’t believe domestic politics has anything to do with our actions.
I think it might.
Its not that hard.
"Anything to do with" != "caused by"
Cause vs correlation. Sure the political environment in the US would have an effect on decisions made at the top. The same is true for both sides. If Obama hit this guy instead, the left would be hailing it as a victory. Let's not pretend this isn't clearly divided down party lines. Right and wrong doesn't favor party lines.
While there's a real tension about escalation with Iran, there's also a palpable fear from the left that Trump might gain in the polls due to this strike. They have to downplay it as a political move. That's a dangerous game, but we've seen these politicians have no boundaries.
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 12:50 PM
"Anything to do with" != "caused by"
Cause vs correlation. Sure the political environment in the US would have an effect on decisions made at the top. The same is true for both sides. If Obama hit this guy instead, the left would be hailing it as a victory. Let's not pretend this isn't clearly divided down party lines. Right and wrong doesn't favor party lines.Are you hailing this as a victory?
Are you hailing this as a victory?
Search for the word "victory" in my posts. It's not difficult.
I think the guy should have been killed long ago. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 12:53 PM
Hezbolla leader instructed not to touch american covilians but americans in uniform are fair game
Iraqi resistance will not let a single US soldier stay in Iraq after the killing of the Iranian Quds force commander, Nasrallah said in a televised speech on Sunday.
The Hezbollah leader, however, warned against harming any American civilians, as such acts will only play into the hands of US President Donald Trump, adding that every US military asset and serviceman in the region is fair game.
A contractor was killed.
Your ruling?
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 12:55 PM
Search for the word "victory" in my posts. It's not difficult.
I think the guy should have been killed long ago. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.I'm asking you if you are hailing this as a victory.
A simple yes or no will do.
If you can actually answer that way.
Because Iran has a long history of avoiding civilian casualties :lol
pgardn - was the contractor a defense contractor?
I'm asking you if you are hailing this as a victory.
A simple yes or no will do.
If you can actually answer that way.
I don't play your silly games. Do my responses read like I am calling it a victory?
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 12:59 PM
I don't play your silly games. Do my responses read like I am calling it a victory?Frankly, yes.
A 3D chess victory, no less.
Frankly, yes.
A 3D chess victory, no less.
In what way, be specific
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 01:07 PM
In what way, be specificSpecifically the hundreds of posts you have made about this killing are pretty much all defending it and Trump's decision to execute it.
Feel free to specifically link any of your posts criticizing or raising any concerns about the killing or Trump's actions. I may have missed it.
Specifically the hundreds of posts you have made about this killing are pretty much all defending it and Trump's decision to execute it.
Feel free to specifically link any of your posts criticizing or raising any concerns about the killing or Trump's actions. I may have missed it.
:lol focusing across the board
:lol you made the accusation, onus of proof is on you
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 01:22 PM
:lol focusing across the board
:lol you made the accusation, onus of proof is on youYou don't even deny your hailing it as a victory.
You just proved my claim by folding.
:lol DerpMC
You don't even deny your hailing it as a victory.
You just proved my claim by folding.
:lol DerpMC
:lol proof by assertion
:lol Today's Chumpy
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 01:25 PM
:lol proof by assertion
:lol Today's Chumpy:lol You didn't even try to deny it.
:lol Today's DMC
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 01:26 PM
Prove me wrong, DMC.
All you have to do is say you do not and will not hail this killing as a victory.
Winehole23
01-05-2020, 01:29 PM
Iran exits the JPCOA.
Is Trump bringing us closer to a deal that will keep Iran from getting nukes?
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 01:39 PM
Pootin is Not Happy With His Puppet
Russia's Foreign Ministry has condemned the U.S. assassination of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Qassem Soleimani, warning Thursday's strike would only escalate regional tensions and make life worse for millions of people.
…
The Russian Foreign Ministry released a separate statement condemning the assassination and warning of possible subsequent fallout.
"Washington's step is fraught with grave consequences for regional peace and stability," the ministry said.
Russia's Lavrov, Iran's Zarif discuss Soleimani killing: statement
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov spoke with his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif over the phone on Friday to discuss the killing of Iran's military chief Qassem Soleimani, the Russian foreign ministry said in a statement.
"Lavrov expressed his condolences over the killing," the statement said.
"The ministers stressed that such actions by the United States
grossly violate the norms of international law."
the Russian foreign ministry openly suggested a “wag the dog” scenario:
The Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, linked the timing of the attack to the coming U.S. presidential election (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/04/treacherous-criminal-aggression-world-reacted-qassim-soleimanis/),
“Everyone should remember and understand that U.S. politicians have their interests,
considering that this year is an election year.”
Russia had been working closely with Suleimani personally on Syria:
How Iranian general plotted out Syrian assault in Moscow (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-soleimani-insigh-idUSKCN0S02BV20151006)(Oct 2015)
Major General Qassem Soleimani’s visit to Moscow was the first step in planning for a Russian military intervention that has reshaped the Syrian war and forged a new Iranian-Russian alliance in support of Assad.
As Russian warplanes bomb rebels from above, the arrival of Iranian special forces for ground operations underscores several months of planning between Assad’s two most important allies, driven by panic at rapid insurgent gains.
The meeting was requested by Putin himself:
Khamenei also sent a senior envoy to Moscow to meet President Vladimir Putin, another senior regional official said.
“Putin told him ‘Okay we will intervene. Send Qassem Soleimani’. He went [sic] to explain the map of the theater.”
Russia wants to control the Middle East, and
while it doesn’t mind chaos and war in Syria, it does want a stable Iran.
It definitely does NOT want a hot war on its southern border.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/4/1909410/-Putin-is-Not-Happy-With-His-Puppet?detail=emaildkre
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 02:50 PM
Trash finally destroys one of Obama's major accomplishments, Obama being a much better deal maker than Trash
After U.S. kills Suleimani, Iran announces it will no longer abide by limits of 2015 nuclear deal (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/5/1909549/-After-U-S-kills-Suleimani-Iran-announces-it-will-no-longer-abide-by-limits-of-2015-nuclear-deal)
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1909549 (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/1909549)
pgardn
01-05-2020, 03:01 PM
"Anything to do with" != "caused by"
Cause vs correlation. Sure the political environment in the US would have an effect on decisions made at the top. The same is true for both sides. If Obama hit this guy instead, the left would be hailing it as a victory. Let's not pretend this isn't clearly divided down party lines. Right and wrong doesn't favor party lines.
While there's a real tension about escalation with Iran, there's also a palpable fear from the left that Trump might gain in the polls due to this strike. They have to downplay it as a political move. That's a dangerous game, but we've seen these politicians have no boundaries.
There is a larger palpable political fear by team Trump imo, therefore taking an action that outweighs what we have been given as reason for the attack so far. He backed off on our captured sailors and hormuz drone mess. But now we all of the sudden have bigger problems and we are free to accept this from a WH that lies at every turn.
Lying has consequences as to everything this WH does. ‘But, but it’s not illegal...’ No it may not be. But good luck with normal people trusting your motives.
There is a larger palpable political fear by team Trump imo, therefore taking an action that outweighs what we have been given as reason for the attack so far. He backed off on our captured sailors and hormuz drone mess. But now we all of the sudden have bigger problems and we are free to accept this from a WH that lies at every turn.
Lying has consequences as to everything this WH does. ‘But, but it’s not illegal...’ No it may not be. But good luck with normal people trusting your motives.
That's just it, we don't have "bigger problems". We have fewer problems. Iran was never friendly to the US, not in the past what, 40 years? You cannot say eliminating the most wanted terrorist in the world (per US listings) creates a bigger problem. You're just more aware of it now. You probably had no idea who this guy was or what the situation was on the ground. You just seem to be riding the fear train with the left.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 03:20 PM
Because Iran has a long history of avoiding civilian casualties :lol
pgardn - was the contractor a defense contractor?
Yes
Therefore I am asking hater if that is fair game for Hezbollah.
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 03:21 PM
Hail Dear Leader's Great Victory!
Yes
Therefore I am asking hater if that is fair game for Hezbollah.
I'd say it is. But it will still get a response. The line between terrorist acts and military acts is blurred more daily. The addition of civilian contractors carrying firearms on the front lines makes it even more blurred.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 03:32 PM
That's just it, we don't have "bigger problems". We have fewer problems. Iran was never friendly to the US, not in the past what, 40 years? You cannot say eliminating the most wanted terrorist in the world (per US listings) creates a bigger problem. You're just more aware of it now. You probably had no idea who this guy was or what the situation was on the ground. You just seem to be riding the fear train with the left.
Im asking why we are picking fights now compared to just a short time ago.
From what has been released so far, I see not much more than has already occurred.
And again, this guy has been in our sites and apparently could have been targeted way before now.
Im am far more leery of this administration because it has lied so easily and casually about so many things that did not even need to be lied about.
In fact, if one does not question the timing of this particular incident, then we are not serious about holding this president accountable to explain himself.
Acting like you are being picked on when lies just pour out of your mouth is not an excuse. All presidents should be scrutinized very closely. This one lies to create confusion and the appearance of being treated unfairly. Thats just snowflaking out with all the lies.
I dont like being told yes when the truth is no over and over again. Lying has consequences.
Spurs Homer
01-05-2020, 03:44 PM
Pootin is Not Happy With His Puppet
Russia's Foreign Ministry has condemned the U.S. assassination of Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps commander Qassem Soleimani, warning Thursday's strike would only escalate regional tensions and make life worse for millions of people.
…
The Russian Foreign Ministry released a separate statement condemning the assassination and warning of possible subsequent fallout.
"Washington's step is fraught with grave consequences for regional peace and stability," the ministry said.
Russia's Lavrov, Iran's Zarif discuss Soleimani killing: statement
Russia's Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov spoke with his Iranian counterpart Mohammad Javad Zarif over the phone on Friday to discuss the killing of Iran's military chief Qassem Soleimani, the Russian foreign ministry said in a statement.
"Lavrov expressed his condolences over the killing," the statement said.
"The ministers stressed that such actions by the United States
grossly violate the norms of international law."
the Russian foreign ministry openly suggested a “wag the dog” scenario:
The Ministry spokeswoman, Maria Zakharova, linked the timing of the attack to the coming U.S. presidential election (https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/01/04/treacherous-criminal-aggression-world-reacted-qassim-soleimanis/),
“Everyone should remember and understand that U.S. politicians have their interests,
considering that this year is an election year.”
Russia had been working closely with Suleimani personally on Syria:
How Iranian general plotted out Syrian assault in Moscow (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-syria-soleimani-insigh-idUSKCN0S02BV20151006)(Oct 2015)
Major General Qassem Soleimani’s visit to Moscow was the first step in planning for a Russian military intervention that has reshaped the Syrian war and forged a new Iranian-Russian alliance in support of Assad.
As Russian warplanes bomb rebels from above, the arrival of Iranian special forces for ground operations underscores several months of planning between Assad’s two most important allies, driven by panic at rapid insurgent gains.
The meeting was requested by Putin himself:
Khamenei also sent a senior envoy to Moscow to meet President Vladimir Putin, another senior regional official said.
“Putin told him ‘Okay we will intervene. Send Qassem Soleimani’. He went [sic] to explain the map of the theater.”
Russia wants to control the Middle East, and
while it doesn’t mind chaos and war in Syria, it does want a stable Iran.
It definitely does NOT want a hot war on its southern border.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/1/4/1909410/-Putin-is-Not-Happy-With-His-Puppet?detail=emaildkre
not buying it
if anyone is playing 4d chess- it is putin
and when you have trump at your command
you can use the traitor puppet creatively
as of now
pompeo has briefed russia personally
but has not found it important to brief congress or the american public
ducks
01-05-2020, 03:47 PM
Iran exits the JPCOA.
Is Trump bringing us closer to a deal that will keep Iran from getting nukes?
He is not giving them cash late at night without congress authority like 44
Spurs Homer
01-05-2020, 04:25 PM
Thank god hillary the war monger is not prez or we might be at the brink of war...
oh shit- wait!
Im asking why we are picking fights now compared to just a short time ago.
From what has been released so far, I see not much more than has already occurred.
And again, this guy has been in our sites and apparently could have been targeted way before now.
Im am far more leery of this administration because it has lied so easily and casually about so many things that did not even need to be lied about.
In fact, if one does not question the timing of this particular incident, then we are not serious about holding this president accountable to explain himself.
Acting like you are being picked on when lies just pour out of your mouth is not an excuse. All presidents should be scrutinized very closely. This one lies to create confusion and the appearance of being treated unfairly. Thats just snowflaking out with all the lies.
I dont like being told yes when the truth is no over and over again. Lying has consequences.
If you've kept up with the goings on in Iraq lately, you'd know we didn't pick this fight. It was there already. Iran was growing more and more brazen. So first learn about the events then formulate your questions if the answers weren't presented in your research already.
Thank god hillary the war monger is not prez or we might be at the brink of war...
oh shit- wait!
Nah, Benghazi happened and people died under her watch. She didn't do shit about it.
Assassinating a very top govt official is an act of war, as are embargoes and sanctions.
No, it’s not a declaration of war with Iran and we’re not in a war against Iran except through the proxy war in Iraq that has been going on since 2003.
Nah, Benghazi happened and people died under her watch. She didn't do shit about it.
What was she supposed to do? Total fake scandal.
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 05:20 PM
What was she supposed to do? Total fake scandal.:lol that little bitch is just a pro-Trump talking points bot now.
SpursforSix
01-05-2020, 05:25 PM
:lmao typical american war propaganda. The cities of LA, NYC and Boston have issued warnings to its citizens of possible terrorist attacks in response to the assasination.
when is the last time Iran commited a terrorist attack on US soil? :lmao
mstupid bastards forget most of the attacks were made by Saudi linked Sunnis like Al Qaeda and ISIS :lmao
dumb americans :lmao
my biggest fear is that a signal is issued and they poison all of the gas station burritos simultaneously.
Spurs Homer
01-05-2020, 05:26 PM
Nah, Benghazi happened and people died under her watch. She didn't do shit about it.
did she order an assassination of a govt official?
SpursforSix
01-05-2020, 05:30 PM
did she order an assassination of a govt official?
no. Just American citizens from what I’ve read.
What was she supposed to do? Total fake scandal.
https://archives-benghazi-republicans-oversight.house.gov/NewInfo
no. Just American citizens from what I’ve read.
Mostly in and around the federal lockup while Epstein was inside.
https://archives-benghazi-republicans-oversight.house.gov/NewInfo
Totally fake scandal and totally partisan smear.
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 05:57 PM
https://archives-benghazi-republicans-oversight.house.gov/NewInfo
You're asking me to decide on evidence presented by what I consider to be extremely dishonest groups of people for political gain.
https://media0.giphy.com/media/c6Vx2ZcykS7Ub0Fs2g/giphy.gif
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Bottom line is, Iraqi parliament vote was an Iranian face-saving measure. Iran is in a bind: If it retaliates without claiming its attack, it does not count as revenge for Soleimani. If Iran claims the attack, regime risks further wrath, in a country whose economy is in free fall
Totally fake scandal and totally partisan smear.
That settles it then.
phxspurfan
01-05-2020, 07:09 PM
Iran is fucked yo. Raising that red flag to ask fellow poor Muslim countries to do their bullshit Jihadi thing. Thats about all they can do, nothing conventional since not only the USA but the whole world will shit on them. That's what you get for fucking with the big bois
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For non-Arabic speakers, reporting in the main news outlets NYT and Wash Post is so misinformed (either on purpose or because of incompetence) that you might think that the Iraqi State has officially voted for ejecting US forces from Iraq (because of Trump's miscalculated move
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to kill Soleimani). What happened is different.
1- Iraqi PM Abdul-Mahdi sent a letter to Parliament in which he argued US troops exist in Iraq, not based on a treaty ratified by Parliament, but on 2 letters from past cabinets to the UN. Hence, Parliament has no role in ejection.
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2- Iraqi PM's trying to trade disarming Shia militias for limiting scope of US troops. He wrote: "Whoever wants to become a political power, has to surrender arms, join armed forces, and forgo any political allegiance (i.e. to Iran) other than to military and commander-in-chief."
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3- #Iraq parliament barely had a quorum for session on ejecting US troops. Sunni and Kurdish blocs boycotted the session (thus taking America's side over Iran), and thus quorum was 170 of 328 (half + 4, just like Hezbollah designated a PM in Lebanese parliament with half + 4)
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4- The text Iraqi Parliament voted on was not a legislation, but a non-binding resolution.
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5- To deflect Iranian anger, Abdul-Mahdi said US troops will leave, according to timetable. Troops of Assad dynasty occupied Lebanon for 29 years, with Assad and Lebanese saying withdrawal on its way, but tied to timetable. In Mid Eastern countries, timetables mean indefinitely
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6- In his letter to Parliament, Abdul-Mahdi clearly states that Iraqi interest is to maintain neutrality between America and Iran, and that if Iraq antagonizes America, it risks losing its international status (and implicitly oil revenue, just like Iran).
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7- NYT is, by far, much more pro-Iran than Wash Post. The post reported that "tens of thousands" mourned Soleimani in Ahwaz. NYT made the number of mourners "hundreds of thousands."
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:lol someone who can embed tweets would do this much better
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 07:50 PM
He is not giving them cash late at night without congress authority like 44
Cash that was stolen by the United States via sanctions? Giving them their stolen man back in return of them not building nukes is not a bad deal to me tbh
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 08:02 PM
Iran is fucked yo. Raising that red flag to ask fellow poor Muslim countries to do their bullshit Jihadi thing. Thats about all they can do, nothing conventional since not only the USA but the whole world will shit on them. That's what you get for fucking with the big bois
Jihadists are Sunni muslims. Iranians are Shia muslims. All the Saudis and ISIS arabs who are fighting against Asssad and Iran are Sunni muslims. God Damn you're so fucking retarded.
The term jihadist is almost exclusively used to describe Sunni extremists. In Syria, where there are thousands of foreign Muslim fighters engaged in the civil war, for example, non-Syrian Shia are often referred to as "militia", and Sunni foreigners as "jihadists" (or "would-be jihadists").
Jihadism- Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihadism#Shia_jihad
pgardn
01-05-2020, 08:08 PM
If you've kept up with the goings on in Iraq lately, you'd know we didn't pick this fight. It was there already. Iran was growing more and more brazen. So first learn about the events then formulate your questions if the answers weren't presented in your research already.
OK.
Why did we take a quantum leap in hostilities?
You really pretend like you dont know what is going on.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 08:26 PM
Jihadists are Sunni muslims. Iranians are Shia muslims. All the Saudis and ISIS arabs who are fighting against Asssad and Iran are Sunni muslims. God Damn you're so fucking retarded.
So you are saying NO Shia muslims are terrorists?
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 08:40 PM
So you are saying NO Shia muslims are terrorists?
Trump designated Iran’s Revolutionary Guards a Foreign Terrorist Group as an excuse to go in there and start doing regime change. The Zionists have been planning to invade Iran for more than 20 years. Trump is doing what a Zionist puppet would do.
But please tell me what are all the war crimes and terrorist attacks that Iranians have committed. Remember that ISIS and Jihadist are Sunnis. Also remember that Suleimani was an enemy of ISIS. So enlighten me. DMC maybe you know.
Al-Qaeda is also responsible for instigating sectarian violence among Muslims. Al-Qaeda's leaders regard liberal Muslims, Shias, Sufis and other sects as heretical and its members and sympathizers have attacked their mosques and gatherings.
Al-Qaeda - Wikipedia
pgardn
01-05-2020, 08:49 PM
Trump designated Iran’s Revolutionary Guards a Foreign Terrorist Group as an excuse to go in there and start doing regime change. The Zionists have been planning to invade Iran for more than 20 years. Trump is doing what a Zionist puppet would do.
But please tell me what are all the war crimes and terrorist attacks that Iranians have committed. Remember that ISIS and Jihadist are Sunnis. Also remember that Suleimani was an enemy of ISIS. So enlighten me. DMC (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) maybe you know.
Are you fckin kidding?
The Revolutionary Guard... you want me to keep going?
You are a complete nut.
OK.
Why did we take a quantum leap in hostilities?
You really pretend like you dont know what is going on.
You speak in such extremes, it's hard to take you seriously.
You'e the one asking stupid questions. You tell me what's going on since you obviously think you know.
:lol Obama put him on the terrorist watch list
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 08:56 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/TLAVagabond/status/1213988117880987648
pgardn
01-05-2020, 08:57 PM
You speak in such extremes, it's hard to take you seriously.
You'e the one asking stupid questions. You tell me what's going on since you obviously think you know.
:lol Obama put him on the terrorist watch list
Of course he is on the terrorist watch list AND we could have outed him long before this, how many times does this need to be repeated.
Who did they kill and who did we kill? the latest...
Since Trump has shown such incredible benevolent behavior since we had sailors captured and drones shot down and he showed so much restraint.
They had swift boats all over Hormuz...
What happened to that benevolent restraint?
Yeah me talking in extremes. Our president asks a foreign country to investigate a political opponent on the fckin telephone and red team sees no harm. Wow was I harsh.
And now we know he held back funds trying to get that investigation. My horrible extremes that you dont want to see.
Trump designated Iran’s Revolutionary Guards a Foreign Terrorist Group as an excuse to go in there and start doing regime change. The Zionists have been planning to invade Iran for more than 20 years. Trump is doing what a Zionist puppet would do.
But please tell me what are all the war crimes and terrorist attacks that Iranians have committed. Remember that ISIS and Jihadist are Sunnis. Also remember that Suleimani was an enemy of ISIS. So enlighten me. DMC maybe you know.
Th Qud was designed a terrorist group in 2007. Had nothing to do with Trump.
Maybe do more research than extremist YT videos.
Responsible for extraterritorial operations,[4] the Quds Force supports non-state actors in many countries, including Lebanese Hezbollah, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, Yemeni Houthis, and Shia militias in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.[4]
Analysts estimate the Quds has 10,000–20,000 members.[5] The Quds Force reports directly to the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Khamenei.[6][7] It was commanded by Major General Qasem Soleimani until he was killed by a U.S. drone strike at Baghdad International Airport on 3 January 2020.[8][9][10] Brigadier General Esmail Ghaani was appointed as commander of the Quds Force on the same day.[11]
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 09:12 PM
Th Qud was designed a terrorist group in 2007. Had nothing to do with Trump.
Maybe do more research than extremist YT videos.
Responsible for extraterritorial operations,[4] the Quds Force supports non-state actors in many countries, including Lebanese Hezbollah, Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad in the Gaza Strip and the West Bank, Yemeni Houthis, and Shia militias in Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan.[4]
Analysts estimate the Quds has 10,000–20,000 members.[5] The Quds Force reports directly to the Supreme Leader of Iran, Ayatollah Khamenei.[6][7] It was commanded by Major General Qasem Soleimani until he was killed by a U.S. drone strike at Baghdad International Airport on 3 January 2020.[8][9][10] Brigadier General Esmail Ghaani was appointed as commander of the Quds Force on the same day.[11]
Hamas was created by the Zionists and is control opposition :lol
The Shia militias in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan are fighting against ISIS.
So your alternative facts don't fit the narrative
Of course he is on the terrorist watch list AND we could have outed him long before this, how many times does this need to be repeated.
Who did they kill and who did we kill? the latest...
Since Trump has shown such incredible benevolent behavior since we had sailors captured and drones shot down and he showed so much restraint.
They had swift boats all over Hormuz...
What happened to that benevolent restraint?
Yeah me talking in extremes. Our president asks a foreign country to investigate a political opponent on the fckin telephone and red team sees no harm. Wow was I harsh.
And now we know he held back funds trying to get that investigation. My horrible extremes that you dont want to see.
So in your :madrun you feel that using hyperbole is the solution.
Do your own homework instead of freaking out. I cannot imagine if you had to actually do something about it. Pretty sure you won't even miss a breakfast.
Hamas was created by the Zionists and is control opposition :lol
The Shia militias in Iraq, Syria and Afghanistan are fighting against ISIS.
So your alternative facts don't fit the narrative
Don't quit your day job.
:lol relying on YT for your bigotry laced tirades over "muh joos"
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 09:19 PM
Don't quit your day job.
:lol relying on YT for your bigotry laced tirades over "muh joos"
Go watch all my videos. They are all facts and historical events. Words coming out of the horse's mouth (Zionists and Jewish supremacists)
My sources are better than MSM and "muh Pentagon" :cry "muh CIA"
Go watch all my videos. They are all facts and historical events. Words coming out of the horse's mouth (Zionists and Jewish supremacists)
My sources are better than MSM and "muh Pentagon" :cry "muh CIA"
I've never watched a single video you ever posted and I never will. :lol
pgardn
01-05-2020, 09:38 PM
So in your :madrun you feel that using hyperbole is the solution.
Do your own homework instead of freaking out. I cannot imagine if you had to actually do something about it. Pretty sure you won't even miss a breakfast.
Yeah thats how to get out of it.
They probably accidentally kill a military contractor, we kill their most important general.
After Trump has spouted this like for like reaction theory for his administration after the drone attack.
Laughable how you will do anything to get out of the real meat of an argument, especially for Trump.
Me do my HW ? You have said absolutely nothing. But will you drink coffee tomorrow... ?The ultimate question to determine how international politics affects Americans.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 09:40 PM
Go watch all my videos. They are all facts and historical events. Words coming out of the horse's mouth (Zionists and Jewish supremacists)
My sources are better than MSM and "muh Pentagon" :cry "muh CIA"
No.
No they are not.
They are tin foil hat laughable.
You want me to find a video of a Shia militia man saying he will chop the head of all Christians and declare this is Islam.
Of course he is on the terrorist watch list AND we could have outed him long before this, how many times does this need to be repeated.
Who did they kill and who did we kill? the latest...
Since Trump has shown such incredible benevolent behavior since we had sailors captured and drones shot down and he showed so much restraint.
They had swift boats all over Hormuz...
What happened to that benevolent restraint?
Yeah me talking in extremes. Our president asks a foreign country to investigate a political opponent on the fckin telephone and red team sees no harm. Wow was I harsh.
And now we know he held back funds trying to get that investigation. My horrible extremes that you dont want to see.
An American was killed and a US embassy was attacked. Pretty simple.
Winehole23
01-05-2020, 09:44 PM
War abroad erodes liberties at home:
https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1213914708782309379?s=19
Winehole23
01-05-2020, 09:47 PM
An American was killed and a US embassy was attacked. Pretty simple.Been what, five days since the US contracor was killed.
Is there any information about who it was or what their job was?
pgardn
01-05-2020, 09:48 PM
An American military contractor was killed and a US embassy was attacked. Pretty simple.
So we kill their most important General in a strike. After we have left him totally alone a number of times with other provocations.
Yeah call it even like the drone attack... I SAVED LIVES BY REACTING GENTLY.
The timing is quit sketchy.
Look into it.
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 09:50 PM
No.
No they are not.
They are tin foil hat laughable.
You want me to find a video of a Shia militia man saying he will chop the head of all Christians and declare this is Islam.
Go ahead. Show me. And I'll show you videos of Christians, Jews and Muslim living peacefully as neighbors in Iran.
Yeah thats how to get out of it.
They probably accidentally kill a military contractor, we kill their most important general.
After Trump has spouted this like for like reaction theory for his administration after the drone attack.
Laughable how you will do anything to get out of the real meat of an argument, especially for Trump.
Me do my HW ? You have said absolutely nothing. But will you drink coffee tomorrow... ?The ultimate question to determine how international politics affects Americans.
Some people did some things. Did your Google subscription run out? You keep offering guesses like you can only access Spurstalk for your news feed.
You're so far behind what everyone else already knows it's amusing to watch you act like you just woke up to the news.
Winehole23
01-05-2020, 09:52 PM
Wow
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/1/5/21050757/trump-iran-qassem-soleimani-attack-congress-twitter-follow-updates
Been what, five days since the US contracor was killed.
Is there any information about who it was or what their job was?
He was last seen in a Chevy Malibu.
https://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/200104194503-03-soleimani-funderal-0104-large-tease.jpg
Wow
https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2020/1/5/21050757/trump-iran-qassem-soleimani-attack-congress-twitter-follow-updates
:lmao
pgardn
01-05-2020, 09:56 PM
Some people did some things. Did your Google subscription run out? You keep offering guesses like you can only access Spurstalk for your news feed.
You're so far behind what everyone else already knows it's amusing to watch you act like you just woke up to the news.
Does it even make a difference? No.
Again you have said absolutely nothing to make any kind of argument.
You understand what I have said and you got nothing.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:02 PM
Go ahead. Show me. And I'll show you videos of Christians, Jews and Muslim living peacefully as neighbors in Iran.
And I will show you the same in the US.
Your turn.
phxspurfan
01-05-2020, 10:05 PM
Jihadists are Sunni muslims. Iranians are Shia muslims. All the Saudis and ISIS arabs who are fighting against Asssad and Iran are Sunni muslims. God Damn you're so fucking retarded.
ladies and gentlemen, bow down before your expert on Middle East (installed puppet) goverment institutionalized, quasi-religious American hatred.
phxspurfan
01-05-2020, 10:06 PM
So we kill their most important General in a strike. After we have left him totally alone a number of times with other provocations.
Yeah call it even like the drone attack... I SAVED LIVES BY REACTING GENTLY.
The timing is quit sketchy.
Look into it.
I'm guessing it was Trump being presented with an opportunity by his military advisors and taking it without much thought. Because he was mad. He does these types of things, we know this.
boutons_deux
01-05-2020, 10:10 PM
"presented with an opportunity by his military advisors"
nope, "reports" say the actual military staff are horrified by the assassination shitstorm, and 100s or more of US military and citizens will die.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:16 PM
I'm guessing it was Trump being presented with an opportunity by his military advisors and taking it without much thought. Because he was mad. He does these types of things, we know this.
This makes more sense than anything the Trumpsters have put out.
They just need to acknowledge that he said and did exactly the opposite when the same type of problems were presented to him in the Strait of Hormuz, US citizens captured by Swift boats, and the downing of a drone and other technological harassment.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:17 PM
"presented with an opportunity by his military advisors"
nope, "reports" say the actual military staff are horrified by the assassination shitstorm, and 100s or more of US military and citizens will die.
And I can see this as well.
Winehole23
01-05-2020, 10:20 PM
I'm guessing it was Trump being presented with an opportunity by his military advisors and taking it without much thought. Because he was mad. He does these types of things, we know this.This has been reported in the straight media.
phxspurfan
01-05-2020, 10:29 PM
This makes more sense than anything the Trumpsters have put out.
They just need to acknowledge that he said and did exactly the opposite when the same type of problems were presented to him in the Strait of Hormuz, US citizens captured by Swift boats, and the downing of a drone and other technological harassment.
Armchair general/Monday morning QB bullshit per usual. Easy to criticize people but when you’re in the chair and someone attacks/kills your people, any normal person would take revenge.
phxspurfan
01-05-2020, 10:31 PM
"presented with an opportunity by his military advisors"
nope, "reports" say the actual military staff are horrified by the assassination shitstorm, and 100s or more of US military and citizens will die.
Intel on the itinerary of a foreign general doesn’t just appear out of thin air. It comes from the military leadership.
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 10:33 PM
Veteran Speaks At "No War On Iran" Rally Los Angeles
https://youtu.be/OFz68h0OgwI
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:37 PM
Armchair general/Monday morning QB bullshit per usual. Easy to criticize people but when you’re in the chair and someone attacks/kills your people, any normal person would take revenge.
The president of the US is supposed to be a bit more than a normal person.
Wise counsel, wisdom, all that rot... Leaders? Leaders because they inspire? I guess not.
Does it even make a difference? No.
Again you have said absolutely nothing to make any kind of argument.
You understand what I have said and you got nothing.
You lack basic level of understanding of the event but you want to argue, based on what exactly? Your supreme wisdom over all things?
Full of yourself much?
What do I get from offering you an argument, more requests for information?
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:38 PM
Intel on the itinerary of a foreign general doesn’t just appear out of thin air. It comes from the military leadership.
It could be put on the table as an extreme reaction, an appropriate reaction, a less than appropriate... who knows.
ChumpDumper
01-05-2020, 10:39 PM
I did Google it. Didn't find anything about the contractor.
Armchair general/Monday morning QB bullshit per usual. Easy to criticize people but when you’re in the chair and someone attacks/kills your people, any normal person would take revenge.
The left seems to understand the concept when it happens to Iran.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:42 PM
You don't have the basic level of understanding of the event but you want to argue, based on what exactly? Your supreme wisdom over all things?
No you dont have the basic level of the understanding of the event, nor the events that happened not even a year before this.
So you just go to ground level Ms. Crutchfield per usual.
You really have just defaulted yourself from this discussion by not adding anything of significance.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:43 PM
The left seems to understand the concept when it happens to Iran.
We are not Iran.
There is a difference.
This makes more sense than anything the Trumpsters have put out.
They just need to acknowledge that he said and did exactly the opposite when the same type of problems were presented to him in the Strait of Hormuz, US citizens captured by Swift boats, and the downing of a drone and other technological harassment.
Dec. 29
Two days after the Kirkuk attack, U.S. F-15 warplanes bomb three sites in Iraq, one of them the city of Al-Qaim, and two sites in Syria's Euphrates River Valley. Iraqi sources say 25 people are killed and 50 wounded.
U.S. officials do not disclose precise locations but say the targets, tied to Kataeb Hezbollah, include weapons storage sites and command posts used to coordinate attacks against coalition troops.
Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis, Head of pro-Iranian Kataib Hezbollah Targeted by U.S.
So this guy was just there for brunch obviously.
Maybe he was the actual target and Soleimani was a bonus.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:48 PM
Dec. 29
Two days after the Kirkuk attack, U.S. F-15 warplanes bomb three sites in Iraq, one of them the city of Al-Qaim, and two sites in Syria's Euphrates River Valley. Iraqi sources say 25 people are killed and 50 wounded.
U.S. officials do not disclose precise locations but say the targets, tied to Kataeb Hezbollah, include weapons storage sites and command posts used to coordinate attacks against coalition troops.
Excellent.
Now why dont we hit the same type of depots etc.. in Afghanistan? And kill the major military leader of the Taliban maybe yesterday?
We are not Iran.
There is a difference.
Right, Iran had no business there with the leader of the group attacking our troops. We were invited to be there.
Winehole23
01-05-2020, 10:50 PM
Wrong thread
Excellent.
Now why dont we hit the same type of depots etc.. in Afghanistan? And kill the major military leader of the Taliban maybe yesterday?
This has nothing to do with Afghanistan. Try to keep up, Edith.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:51 PM
Right, Iran had no business there with the leader of the group attacking our troops. We were invited to be there.
Oh and this is a NEW development?
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:52 PM
This has nothing to do with Afghanistan. Try to keep up, Edith.
You dont understand the comparison, meathead.
Im not as ill-informed as you are.
weebo
01-05-2020, 10:52 PM
Iran already won...they're better off standing down...just keeping pushing the rhetoric and baiting our moronic clown leader to do even dumber shit
hater
01-05-2020, 10:52 PM
An American was killed and a US embassy was attacked. Pretty simple.
um the US embassy was mobbed by Iraqi protestors. They were not even Iranian for christsakes :lmao you cannot pin it directly to Iranian government lol
this is like China pinning the hong kong protestors directly to US government and assassinating Gen Petreus :lol
and an american was killed? duh he was in Iraq. there are dozens of militia groups that kill americans there :lmao
hell most of those are Sunni funded by Saudi. you dont see Trump assassinating a saudi gen do you? :lol
please wake the fuck up :lol
Oh and this is a NEW development?
I'm not hand holding you any more. Learn to Google.
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 10:58 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/morphonios/status/1213907766663942149
hater
You dont understand the comparison, meathead.
Im not as ill-informed as you are.
You actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Taliban_leaders
Which one that's still living do you want? You don't know.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 10:59 PM
I'm not hand holding you any more. Learn to Google.
You are a joke.
You dont know or understand what is going on here.
No background, you just walk into the middle of a movie and spout BS.
Iran already won...they're better off standing down...just keeping pushing the rhetoric and baiting our moronic clown leader to do even dumber shit
You're like Olympic level stupid.
You are a joke.
You dont know or understand what is going on here.
No background, you just walk into the middle of a movie and spout BS.
:lol you're a fraud
pgardn
01-05-2020, 11:02 PM
You actually have no idea what you're talking about.
Example
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Taliban_leaders
Which one that's still living do you want? You don't know.
Like if fckn matters...
You are so OCD you cant even put simple comparisons together.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 11:03 PM
:lol you're a fraud
Sure I am nature/nurture man.
hater
01-05-2020, 11:06 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/morphonios/status/1213907766663942149
hater
Called it :tu
You must have some residual effects from crystal meth or whatever chemicals you're around too often. You seem to have BPD with a side of narcissism. The word salads you drop here are like half-thoughts that phase shift into other half thoughts. Must be a cool ride sometimes.
Called it :tu
:lol sure that's exactly how it went down. Trump is brokering peace between SA and Iran.
weebo
01-05-2020, 11:08 PM
You're like Olympic level stupid.
says the easily triggered inbred always trumper opioid know it all :lol...how many portraits of muh dear leader do you have hanging on your walls?
says the easily triggered inbred always trumper opioid know it all :lol...how many portraits of muh dear leader do you have hanging on your walls?
What REMF MOS did you get booted out of?
DarrinS
01-05-2020, 11:14 PM
People still shitting their pants over this Iranian?
hater
01-05-2020, 11:18 PM
:lol sure that's exactly how it went down. Trump is brokering peace between SA and Iran.
the Iraqi PM has zero reason to lie about this tbqh
on the other hand USA has all the reasons to lie about assassinating another countries General whos not at war with
yet you beleive the US version hook line and sinker :lmao :lol
the Iraqi PM has zero reason to lie about this tbqh
on the other hand USA has all the reasons to lie about assassinating another countries General whos not at war with
yet you beleive the US version hook line and sinker :lmao :lol
Sure, The leaders of Hezbollah and the PMF were there just for a vacay.
Do you really think that general would trust an arrangement made by Trump, with those people with him, and actually show up? I guess Trump called him up was like "Yo Q, check it, you's gonna be at da airport and bring those other two high ranking terrorist leaders wif ya" BAM hung up the phone. If so Trump is a genius.
pgardn
01-05-2020, 11:22 PM
You must have some residual effects from crystal meth or whatever chemicals you're around too often. You seem to have BPD with a side of narcissism. The word salads you drop here are like half-thoughts that phase shift into other half thoughts. Must be a cool ride sometimes.
Ms. Crutch field now going full psychoanalysis after failing at a simple argument.
Its amusing, keep going...
hater
01-05-2020, 11:23 PM
Sure, The leaders of Hezbollah and the PMF were there just for a vacay.
Do you really think that general would trust an arrangement made by Trump, with those people with him, and actually show up? I guess Trump called him up was like "Yo Q, check it, you's gonna be at da airport and bring those other two high ranking terrorist leaders wif ya" BAM hung up the phone. If so Trump is a genius.
The general was already traveling around ME for the last decade.
do you really beleive the US version? yea or no?
the same US who lied about so many things about the ME in the last few decades? grow up. most likely both are lying yet you seem to beleive the US version :lol
The general was already traveling around ME for the last decade.
do you really beleive the US version? yea or no?
the same US who lied about so many things about the ME in the last few decades? grow up. most likely both are lying yet you seem to beleive the US version :lol
US version 78%
The version you posted 0%
US has lied in the past ergo everything everyone else says must be true!
:lol hater logic
Now comment about how concerned I am and my post count.
People still shitting their pants over this Iranian?
It’s an otherwise slow news week so this has dominated. Media loves to play into the fear.
Ms. Crutch field now going full psychoanalysis after failing at a simple argument.
Its amusing, keep going...
There was no argument. You're a low information fraud nay saying through requests for information. If you have a clue you haven't tipped your hand here.
hater
01-05-2020, 11:27 PM
US version 78%
The version you posted 0%
US has lied in the past ergo everything everyone else says must be true!
:lol hater logic
Now comment about how concerned I am and my post count.
your math is 100% wrong tho
proof Iran govmt directed embassy protestors = 0%
proof american contractor was killed by Iranians = 0%
proof Solemani was plotting terrorist attacks on US = 0%
bad bad math ma young buck
wake the fuck up you are believing the disney version of the facts :lmao
pgardn
01-05-2020, 11:28 PM
Called it :tu
Trump got the Iranian military leader to Iraq to murder him by lying about a peace plan...
You can make this more bizarre.
Go for it.
your math is 100% wrong tho
proof Iran govmt directed embassy protestors = 0%
proof american contractor was killed by Iranians = 0%
proof Solemani was plotting terrorist attacks on US = 0%
bad bad math ma young buck
wake the fuck up you are believing the disney version of the facts :lmao
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/21/us/politics/trump-iran-decision.html
weebo
01-05-2020, 11:33 PM
What REMF MOS did you get booted out of?
if you must know...engineer...volunteered to deploy 2007-2008, 2008-2009...got my gold spurs and tried to stay...my request was denied by brigade commander..not saying much else
pgardn
01-05-2020, 11:35 PM
There was no argument. You're a low information fraud nay saying through requests for information. If you have a clue you haven't tipped your hand here.
I said the timing was suspect given domestic political events.
You disagreed.
I gave my reasoning.
You gave me nothing back.
Done.
You think Trump did this as a pure military matter, I find this dubious.
End of story.
And it ended long before you decided to haul out meaningless BS to confuse others that might read.
TheGreatYacht
01-05-2020, 11:38 PM
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/21/us/politics/trump-iran-decision.html
The New York Times a credible source now :lmao
This is classical :lmao
This is Exhibit A to my other thread "why conservatives hate liberal media...
I said the timing was suspect given domestic political events.
You disagreed.
I gave my reasoning.
You gave me nothing back.
Done.
You think Trump did this as a pure military matter, I find this dubious.
End of story.
And it ended long before you decided to haul out meaningless BS to confuse others that might read.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/21/us/politics/trump-iran-decision.html
The timing wasn't suspect at all.
That's the real quid pro quo.
The New York Times a credible source now :lmao
This is classical :lmao
This is Exhibit A to my other thread "why conservatives hate liberal media...
I'll take the NYT about a POTUS they don't like vs some random tweet posted by Boutons lite. Besides, it's not about their opinion as much as the sequence of events and the fact Iran had it coming.
The version you posted 0%
US has lied in the past ergo everything everyone else says must be true!
:lol hater logic
I agree with you here — “hater” has very poor logic on this. Seems eager to side with Iran gov on anything.
I agree with you here — “hater” has very poor logic on this. Seems eager to side with Iran gov on anything.
He will until the something is decided and the US looks like the victor at which point hater will switch sides again and call it.
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