What old basketball games or clips have you been watching lately?

[Dirks_Finale]

This always seems to come up in the cache on youtube. And I am not complaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgkqL_YhzSQ

[lefty]

This always seems to come up in the cache on youtube. And I am not complaining.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgkqL_YhzSQ

:cry it still hurts

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/1OmE3B-s8ow

[Dirks_Finale]

:cry it still hurts

I about lost it when Manu hit that damn three lol. Had no confidence in our ability to get the game into overtime. What a fluke foul at the end.

[Dirks_Finale]

https://youtu.be/1OmE3B-s8ow

:lol

[99 Problems]

Last finals, watching Kawhi hand GS their own ass.

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/aHk1mhuE684

[LkrFan]

This one brings me joy :lol
WY_sO0tFtc4

My top 10 all-time teams:

01 Lakers
87 Lakers
14 Spurs
17 Dubs
86 Celtics
96 Bulls
18 Dubs
85 Lakers
93 Bulls
08 Celtics

[ambchang]

This one brings me joy :lol
WY_sO0tFtc4

My top 10 all-time teams:

01 Lakers
87 Lakers
14 Spurs
17 Dubs
86 Celtics
96 Bulls
18 Dubs
85 Lakers
93 Bulls
08 Celtics

Where are the 04 and 12 lakers. Four HoFers.

[Dirks_Finale]

Fisher returns from injury -- -then the Lakers became unstoppable. True story. :lol


This one brings me joy :lol
WY_sO0tFtc4

My top 10 all-time teams:

01 Lakers
87 Lakers
14 Spurs
17 Dubs
86 Celtics
96 Bulls
18 Dubs
85 Lakers
93 Bulls
08 Celtics

[Dirks_Finale]

Ewing -- you got that big Z in your fro, man!!



https://youtu.be/aHk1mhuE684

[LkrFan]

Where are the 04 and 12 lakers. Four HoFers.

Didn't make my list. My favorite non-title winning Laker squads is the 1997 Lakers.

[Spurtacular]

91 C's were good. Announcer said this could've been a championship preview. It should've been, tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3eLMQ-5d4

[Spurtacular]

And this should've been the 08 finalists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNaW6_Di-s

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/TUzIRKL23X0

[ambchang]

Didn't make my list. My favorite non-title winning Laker squads is the 1997 Lakers.

Is that the one with Eddie Jones starting ahead of Kobe?

Eddie was so underrated. Too bad he got thrown under the bus.

[FrostKing]

Is that the one with Eddie Jones starting ahead of Kobe?

Eddie was so underrated. Too bad he got thrown under the bus.
I thought so too at the time. Much preferred the soft spoken defender but in hindsight Lakers clearly made the right decision

[Dirks_Finale]

And this should've been the 08 finalists.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXNaW6_Di-s

How do you think you guys would have done vs those Celtics?

[Spurtacular]

How do you think you guys would have done vs those Celtics?

Spurs experience would've been a serious advantage. Celtics had HCA though. Flip a coin; but I give the slight edge to the Spurs.

[FrostKing]

2008 Celtics are arguably the best team of the decade

Spurs would need prime Duncan to combat KG, Perkins, Davis and even Powe/PJ Brown

This weakness is why Spurs would attempt to load up on post players for the next 2-3 offseasons. No surprise when the Spurs returned to Title level again in 2011, the team had Splitter, McDyess, and Blair.

[Spurtacular]

2008 Celtics are arguably the best team of the decade

Spurs would need prime Duncan to combat KG, Perkins, Davis and even Powe/PJ Brown

This weakness is why Spurs would attempt to load up on post players for the next 2-3 offseasons. No surprise when the Spurs returned to Title level again in 2011, the team had Splitter, McDyess, and Blair.

These C's would clam up at times. It took them seven games to beat everyone but the Lakers IIRC, including the Hawks.

Manu and Tony's ability to get where they want on the court and Bowen's ability to clamp Pierce or Allen would've been big. TD > KG too.

I think that the 09 and 10 C's were going to be even more dominant if KG hadn't injured his knee. Those were really supposed to be their best years. 08 beating the Spurs would've been a year ahead of schedule IMO. Remember that 09 and 10 is really when Rondo was closer to 07 Parker level. In 08 he was closer to 02 and 03 Parker level.

[Dirks_Finale]

I think C's win, but likely more competitive than the Lakers were. I don't see the Spurs losing a closeout game by 40 like LA did.


Spurs experience would've been a serious advantage. Celtics had HCA though. Flip a coin; but I give the slight edge to the Spurs.

[Spurtacular]

I think C's win, but likely more competitive than the Lakers were. I don't see the Spurs losing a closeout game by 40 like LA did.

This is the 2-3-2 era. Spurs probably win two of three at home and head to Boston with two shots at the title.

And in the event the Spurs win Game 2, they might close it out in five. I would think the Spurs would win Game 1 because Boston had a lot of nerves in Game 1.
Lakers let the C's off the hook. Spurs wouldn't have, IMO.

[lefty]

91 C's were good. Announcer said this could've been a championship preview. It should've been, tbh.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PY3eLMQ-5d4
Celtics got robbed vs Detroit in the 91 playoffs

[Spurtacular]

Celtics got robbed vs Detroit in the 91 playoffs

What do you recall?

[LkrFan]

Is that the one with Eddie Jones starting ahead of Kobe?

Eddie was so underrated. Too bad he got thrown under the bus.

Yeah, actually. Eddie and Kobe would have wrecked teams under Phil Jackson. But we traded him for Glen Rice :(

[baseline bum]

Yeah, actually. Eddie and Kobe would have wrecked teams under Phil Jackson. But we traded him for Glen Rice :(

What the hell did you guys get for a young Van Exel? That's the one I'd be pissed about.

[LkrFan]

What the hell did you guys get for a young Van Exel? That's the one I'd be pissed about.

NVE was traded for Tony Battie and some dude named Ty Lue :cry

And yes, I was pissed off to the highest degree of pisstivity! SMH

[LkrFan]

That 1997 team was loaded and athletic. Shaq was only 315lbs at 24 years old. Kobe still had Enfamil on his breath :cry

[baseline bum]

NVE was traded for Tony Battie and some dude named Ty Lue :cry

And yes, I was pissed off to the highest degree of pisstivity! SMH

For some reason I thought they got Battie for Travis Knight. Oh well, Lue had that one great moment when Iverson stepped over him.

[lefty]

What do you recall?

I read somehere that Detroit got bailed out at the end of game 6 on a Dumars basket rhat shouldn’t have counted (east semis)

[FrostKing]

Yeah, actually. Eddie and Kobe would have wrecked teams under Phil Jackson. But we traded him for Glen Rice :(
2000 was your guys most difficult run. You needed that sharp shooter

[Spurtacular]

I read somehere that Detroit got bailed out at the end of game 6 on a Dumars basket rhat shouldn’t have counted (east semis)

Yea, the C's would have went back to Gm 7 and won at home and then taken care of MJ's Bulls. David Stern was always doing Larry Bird dirty.

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/WJYptJoUNKg

[lefty]

Yea, the C's would have went back to Gm 7 and won at home and then taken care of MJ's Bulls. David Stern was always doing Larry Bird dirty.
Especially since Bird publicly called him out for rigging during the 84 Finals :lol

Celtics started the 90-91 season 29-5 and had the best record in the East

Then Larry Bird and McHale broke down and missed a lot of games; they came back for the playoffs but were not 100% healthy;

They also lost Parish to an injury during the Pistons series (he missed game 6)

[Arcadian]

1999 Finals, 2003 Finals, 2005 Finals, 2014 Finals, and anything with Robinson or Duncan.

[Spurtacular]

Especially since Bird publicly called him out for rigging during the 84 Finals :lol

Celtics started the 90-91 season 29-5 and had the best record in the East

Then Larry Bird and McHale broke down and missed a lot of games; they came back for the playoffs but were not 100% healthy;

They also lost Parish to an injury during the Pistons series (he missed game 6)

Yea, Reggie Lewis had come on. Shaw, Fox, Brown, Pickney, Kline, etc. Good supporting cast.

They were the favorites for sure. Really sucks that their health let them down. McHale should've been shut down for the 87 playoffs. KC wasn't a very good manager of personnel.
And imagine if the Cavs had went with Bias and the C's were left with Daugherty too. The C's would've had Walton's replacement and their own version of twin towers.

[LkrFan]

2000 was your guys most difficult run. You needed that sharp shooter

The 96 Bulls are the blue print for shutting teams down. They featured 3 all NBA first team defenders in Pip, Worm, and MJ. As much as MJ could score, it was their defense that led to their offense that was the real key.

Most teams run their offenses thru their backcourt (and their best players are usually perimeter players; even more so in today's NBA :lol). The Bulls used their 3-headed monster to cut the head off the snake and choked teams out. That works today too.

That's how they got away with beating the Knicks, for example. No way Will Perdue could match up with Pat Ewing by himself Bulls didn't need 20/10 from 1 center. They got it collectively with multiple bigs - not to mention 18-24 fouls to wear Ewing down. Worked to perfection. Neva lost.

Now back to your point. I'd argue Eddie and Kobe (both really good versatile defenders in their own right) could have a similar effect that MJ and Pip had. Instead of Worm, substitute him for a 7'1" 315lb monster, not to mention Fox and Horry. It would have been glorious.

Eddie and Kobe wreaking havoc on teams >> Glen Rice who couldn't defend a chair. They would have won more than 3 rangs. No doubt in my mind.

[lefty]

The 96 Bulls are the blue print for shutting teams down. They featured 3 all NBA first team defenders in Pip, Worm, and MJ. As much as MJ could score, it was their defense that led to their offense that was the real key.
.
This and shitty competition

[LkrFan]

This and shitty competition

Truth bombs. Dominating part-time gourmet chefs. But the media say he the GOAT. :lol

[lefty]

Truth bombs. Dominating part-time gourmet chefs. But the media say he the GOAT. :lol
https://i.postimg.cc/t4FgVDR0/nbamechanic.jpg

[lefty]

"KD wouldn't have been a star in the 80s-90s , he is too skinny"

Ok then explain how this guy could be a scorig champion :

https://cdn.theathletic.com/app/uploads/2020/03/04212746/GettyImages-1003275360-scaled-e1586050143292-1024x682.jpg

[Dirks_Finale]

Holy crap that's some highway robbery. I did not know the great Jerry West ever got fleeced in trade.


NVE was traded for Tony Battie and some dude named Ty Lue :cry

And yes, I was pissed off to the highest degree of pisstivity! SMH

[Dirks_Finale]

Houston lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhDi0Ce_Z5w

[ambchang]

NVE was traded for Tony Battie and some dude named Ty Lue :cry

And yes, I was pissed off to the highest degree of pisstivity! SMH

But nick van quick was a huge problem off court. Didn’t his son get incarcerated for murder or some crazy crap? Van quick was crying like crazy in the court hearings.

[Spurtacular]

https://i.postimg.cc/t4FgVDR0/nbamechanic.jpg

Eaton was good though. He was especially a game changer on defense. Not so easy for Lou to get off his hook shots unchallenged.

Company men had to call a bunch of fake fouls on him to get him out of games against the Lakers in the playoffs. Shameless.

[Spurtacular]

But nick van quick was a huge problem off court. Didn’t his son get incarcerated for murder or some crazy crap? Van quick was crying like crazy in the court hearings.

Dunno. But everything he did offensively he took his own teammates out of rhythm; I mean fuck Kobe couldn't even reach double digit scoring average with him. I know he was a rookie, but still. On top of that, he was a really shitty defender. He was basically the Isiah Thomas forerunner.

[lefty]

Eaton was good though. He was especially a game changer on defense. Not so easy for Lou to get off his hook shots unchallenged.

Company men had to call a bunch of fake fouls on him to get him out of games against the Lakers in the playoffs. Shameless.

Lakers company men rigging job in 88 :

- Vs Jazz
- Vs Mavs
- Vs Pistons

[Spurtacular]

Lakers company men rigging job in 88 :

- Vs Jazz
- Vs Mavs
- Vs Pistons

Yea, that was a really proud year for them. They really needed the publicity with all that back to back jazz Riley promised.

[Spurtacular]

Old Kareem didn't want none of that.

https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/004/389/298/hi-res-19c63efd325135bf75ad595e34fd95d5_crop_exact.jpg?w= 2975&h=2048&q=85

[LkrFan]

But nick van quick was a huge problem off court. Didn’t his son get incarcerated for murder or some crazy crap? Van quick was crying like crazy in the court hearings.

All true. But talent wise, NVE >>> Fish. If he kept his head on straight Jim is light a few rings tbh. I hated that it didn't work out for him and Eddie got traded.

[Spurtacular]

All true. But talent wise, NVE >>> Fish. If he kept his head on straight Jim is light a few rings tbh. I hated that it didn't work out for him and Eddie got traded.

Duncan been retired. Don't you think that Jim stuff has run it's course? I don't even know what Jim even means. :lol

[LkrFan]

Duncan been retired. Don't you think that Jim stuff has run it's course? I don't even know what Jim even means. :lol

It'll end when Kirby endsPERI:lolD

[lefty]

Old Kareem didn't want none of that.

https://img.bleacherreport.net/img/slides/photos/004/389/298/hi-res-19c63efd325135bf75ad595e34fd95d5_crop_exact.jpg?w= 2975&h=2048&q=85
Kream looked goofy with those goggles

[Dirks_Finale]

Knicks fans still see this in their nightmares:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRFKhpMKX0E

[lefty]

Knicks fans still see this in their nightmares:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRFKhpMKX0E

Lol all the BS calls MJ got that night it was almost as bad as Lakers Kings 2001

[ambchang]

All true. But talent wise, NVE >>> Fish. If he kept his head on straight Jim is light a few rings tbh. I hated that it didn't work out for him and Eddie got traded.

NVE is a total ball hog. You guys will be light a couple with him instead of fish I’m sure. But NVE should’ve gotten more.

Eddie Jones was a very good all star type player.

[Dirks_Finale]

LOL @ Ewing falling over his own shoestrings, being checked by Fat Stacey King who couldn't guard his own shadow.


Lol all the BS calls MJ got that night it was almost as bad as Lakers Kings 2001

[Spurtacular]

Knicks fans still see this in their nightmares:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRFKhpMKX0E

Such a terribly executed play.

Knicks were up 2-0 in that series, too. Sad that the better team lost to yet another inferior Jordan team.

[Spurtacular]

LOL @ Ewing falling over his own shoestrings, being checked by Fat Stacey King who couldn't guard his own shadow.

That's where a player with more mobility like Smith should've gotten the ball and either iso'd or do a back pick to then get Ewing a mismatch on the block or swing it weak side to a shooter.

[Spurtacular]

Lol all the BS calls MJ got that night it was almost as bad as Lakers Kings 2001

Yea, Knicks would've already sealed the game in a fairly reffed game. Though that last play looked clean.

[FrostKing]

:lol

Barring a significant injury, no sports team has ever lost 4 straight games to an inferrior opponent

[Dirks_Finale]

That's where a player with more mobility like Smith should've gotten the ball and either iso'd or do a back pick to then get Ewing a mismatch on the block or swing it weak side to a shooter.

That's what we thought they would do. Just rushed and terrible execution.

[Dirks_Finale]

Yea, Knicks would've already sealed the game in a fairly reffed game. Though that last play looked clean.

I thought the final sequence was foul free as well. Smith must be the only guy ever to get blocked 4 times in 5 seconds lol.

[Spurtacular]

:lol

Barring a significant injury, no sports team has ever lost 4 straight games to an inferrior opponent

2006 Mavericks. Company men did their job in that one, too.

It's a shame the MJ dick sucking is ingrained in you. It's a blind spot.

[lefty]

Yea, Knicks would've already sealed the game in a fairly reffed game. Though that last play looked clean.

It’s a miracle those refs left MSG alive :lol

[FrostKing]

Houston lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhDi0Ce_Z5w

https://youtu.be/TyGaDDHrwBg

[Dirks_Finale]

That dude could flat out shoot the rock.

https://youtu.be/TyGaDDHrwBg

[Dirks_Finale]

Prime KG vs Wizard's Jordan:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4XeJjRjBVk

[MultiTroll]

It'll end when Kirby endsPERI:lolD
I've got news for you Raphael.

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/zyfL-lTMezA

[LkrFan]

I've got news for you Raphael.

:lol

SMH

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/GKDA3hrRg-w

[FrostKing]

Another close out bitch


https://youtu.be/6FXynLDfAiM

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tt2vTzopWLE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHZhKKkmW_w

[DMC]

Not watched any basketball. The relief from the faggotry of this NBA is refreshing tbh

[MultiTroll]

1984 Celtics over Lakers Game 4
Bird gets double teams so does the nice assist pass to Dennis Johnson who buries it at the buzzer.

Would love to see the 84 and 86 Celts play the 2014 Spurs.

Real basketball.

[lefty]

1984 Celtics over Lakers Game 4
Bird gets double teams so does the nice assist pass to Dennis Johnson who buries it at the buzzer.

Would love to see the 84 and 86 Celts play the 2014 Spurs.

Real basketball.that's in 85

[Dirks_Finale]

Ewing's only legit shot at a title with Jordan playing baseball. Was he underrated or overrated?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3LIzFcpdSo

[MultiTroll]

that's in 85
Ah that's right.
The first year of 2-3-2 as Stern arranged for his Lakers to have Game 5 at the Forum.
Complete rip off.

[140]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKU2u1Aj96w

No fracture, no foul

[lefty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKU2u1Aj96w

No fracture, no foul
Damn Lebron would have sent Laimbeer to the hospital if he dunked on him

:lol Laimbeer and his trucker body

[FrostKing]

Ewing's only legit shot at a title with Jordan playing baseball. Was he underrated or overrated?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3LIzFcpdSo
Back then Ewing was overrated but today he is underrated. No one outside New York or Georgetown still talks of him

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/6JAbxfnf37s

[baseline bum]

Especially since Bird publicly called him out for rigging during the 84 Finals :lol

Celtics started the 90-91 season 29-5 and had the best record in the East

Then Larry Bird and McHale broke down and missed a lot of games; they came back for the playoffs but were not 100% healthy;

They also lost Parish to an injury during the Pistons series (he missed game 6)

Sad to watch Bird by then with how destroyed his back was. Still can't believe how amazing a career he had after fucking his back up in 1983.

[lefty]

Sad to watch Bird by then with how destroyed his back was. Still can't believe how amazing a career he had after fucking his back up in 1983.

To think he was able to play with a bad back at a high level for a few seasons os really impressive

He also hurt his hand before his rookie season after punching someone in a bar and had to change his shooting form, he was a better shooter in college

Plus unlike other superstars he did all the dirty work Rodman style, diving for lose balls etc , you didn’t see Magic or Jordan do that

When tou think about it Bird wasn’t smart about managing his body
But that’s how he played he was reckless

[baseline bum]

To think he was able to play with a bad back at a high level for a few seasons os really impressive

He also hurt his hand before his rookie season after punching someone in a bar and had to change his shooting form, he was a better shooter in college

Plus unlike other superstars he did all the dirty work Rodman style, diving for lose balls etc , you didn’t see Magic or Jordan do that

When tou think about it Bird wasn’t smart about managing his body
But that’s how he played he was reckless

Didn't Red Auerbach tell him to quit diving for loose balls, that his body would never hold up in the NBA if he kept doing that shit? And then Bird said that's the only way he knows how to play. Can't imagine the fit Auerbach must have had when he found out Bird destroyed his back putting in a driveway.

[lefty]

Didn't Red Auerbach tell him to quit diving for loose balls, that his body would never hold up in the NBA if he kept doing that shit? And then Bird said that's the only way he knows how to play. Can't imagine the fit Auerbach must have had when he found out Bird destroyed his back putting in a driveway.

Oh he must have been pissed that’s for sure
People can talk shit all day about load management but if yesterday’s players did that they would have extended their careers

82 games is too long and pointless
Plus yesterday’s weather players didn’t have best of 7 series in the 1st round

[Killakobe81]

Sad to watch Bird by then with how destroyed his back was. Still can't believe how amazing a career he had after fucking his back up in 1983.

It's a credit to him but why I think he is a bit overrated by some. His MVP years can go toe to toe with anyone Sans maybe Jordan or Bron... But that elite level didn't last very long (compared to those two) . Career-wise I give it to magic Duncan heck even Kobe, because they maintained their elite level longer and won more... But at his best, Bird was better. Those acting as Bird had a top 5 Mt Rushmore career are crazy. But he is the second best SF ever... And he scared me more than any opposing player besides MJ

[Killakobe81]

BTW saw a game when young Steph scored twenty five straight or some crazy numbers vs Spurs... But they choked and Spurs came back and won...
Now I know why yall hate on that man... he was yelling screaming prancing like a "maggot" when their were up big and I don't think yall ever forgave him...
BTW I love nba epic comebacks like Lakers vs blazers in 2000...or State vs Spurs in Kawhi Zaza game... shit looks sweet... Until it ain't...

[lefty]

Bird had short prime because of all his injuries

But in his prime he's the GOAT, he scared the shit of every player he faced and that includes Magic and Demar DeJordan

[Dirks_Finale]

'Bird is nothing special. If he were black he is just one of many'. :lol

Who believes Thomas was actually being sarcastic?

Was glad he got left off the dream team.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBrc11rTjsQ

[lefty]

Rodman was the idiot who said that

Thomas had to back him up because it was the Pistons culture back then “if you’re not with us you are against us”
Yes it was a dumb mentality but that’s how they were

[baseline bum]

BTW I love nba epic comebacks like Lakers vs blazers in 2000...or State vs Spurs in Kawhi Zaza game... shit looks sweet... Until it ain't...

Seem to be forgetting one big one...

[Killakobe81]

Seem to be forgetting one big one...

There are plenty of good comebacks in nba history but those were the ones I watched recently, smart guy... You know as in the title of the thread... I never watch the ones over where Lakers choked I'm no masochist.

[Dirks_Finale]

Thomas was generally a prick. So not sure if that's all it was.


Rodman was the idiot who said that

Thomas had to back him up because it was the Pistons culture back then “if you’re not with us you are against us”
Yes it was a dumb mentality but that’s how they were

[Killakobe81]

I like Isiah the player... but the "what, who me?!" act is bullshit. He has done shady shit as player coach and GM. Don't get me wrong Magic has some of the same flaws... And I hate his I just did it cuz I loved Dr. Buss, BS too... It's why I don't dwell on the personals... A lot of these guys aren't great people just great talents.

[FrostKing]

When Bob Knight praised Jordan, that must have irked Isiah. Long forgotten now but Isiah was born in Chicago and before Jordan/the Bulls, he was adored by the city of Chicago. This is illustrated in the documentary "Hoop Dreams".

The Pistons were attempting their own 3-peat when the 1991 ECF rolled around. Taking into consideration the Dream Team angle, Jordan basically stole Isiah's life.

Everything considered, I think Thomas handles it well today. I remember Isiah was a main anchor for NBC during the 1998 season so called some of Jordan's greatest games.

[lefty]

When Bob Knight praised Jordan, that must have irked Isiah. Long forgotten now but Isiah was born in Chicago and before Jordan/the Bulls, he was adored by the city of Chicago. This is illustrated in the documentary "Hoop Dreams".

The Pistons were attempting their own 3-peat when the 1991 ECF rolled around

Taking into consideration the Dream Team angle, Jordan basically stole Isiah's life. Everything considered, I think Thomas handles it well today. I remember Isiah was a main anchor for NBC during the 1998 season so called some of Jordan's greatest games.

Yeah I also think Isiah has handled it well; Mike on the other hand, still can't let go; we see it in TLD or his HOF speech

:lol But don't tell Isiah about Scottie's comments though :

Skip to 5:16


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsY6E-O7fY4

[FrostKing]

Yeah I also think Isiah has handled it well; Mike on the other hand, still can't let go; we see it in TLD or his HOF speech

:lol But don't tell Isiah about Scottie's comments though :

Skip to 5:16


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EsY6E-O7fY4
What do you want from the other players? Pistons were viewed by their peers as lesser product and they resorted to injury. Their banners remain and we celebrate their certain greatness but also acknowledge the entire picture. Pistons had memorable performances for example Thomas bum ankle at the Forum but overall people marvel at how such an offensively limited team were able to hold their own and prevail.

For example: Bulls gameplan was to run the Blazers off the court meanwhile the Pistons strategy was to get mentally into the Blazers (Duckworth) head

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/ozz93xg3HTk

[lefty]

https://youtu.be/ozz93xg3HTk
By the way

The Suns shot 64 FT in game 7

:lol I guess the NBA wanted that Barkley vs MJ Finals

[FrostKing]

By the way

The Suns shot 64 FT in game 7

:lol I guess the NBA wanted that Barkley vs MJ Finals
I am relieved to know you know this one.

Game 5's is where the series is won.

The non-Barkley POV of this game is in low quality

[FrostKing]

Okay I drop it


https://youtu.be/oqzW_PwhgKc

[lefty]

Okay I drop it


https://youtu.be/oqzW_PwhgKc
What is this?

We want to see 500 three pointers games

[FrostKing]

What is this?

We want to see 500 three pointers games
3 point shots were demoralizing. As an early 3-and-D Euro I have the stroke.

[Dirks_Finale]

You want some of this Lebron? :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Zxk8y3_uI

[lefty]

You want some of this Lebron? :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_Zxk8y3_uI
LeBron would have sent those YMCA rejects to the hospital tbh :lol

[FrostKing]

I remember Kobe took a beating from Raja Ball but handled it professionally

[Dirks_Finale]

LeBron would have sent those YMCA rejects to the hospital tbh :lol

A/C not great back then. Have to limit him to 20 mpg so he doesnt cramp up and be carried off the floor :lol

[DeadlyDynasty]

I can watch just about any game, no matter how heartbreaking the loss...except for one, which still sickens me to this day. Guess which one it is?

[baseline bum]

I can watch just about any game, no matter how heartbreaking the loss...except for one, which still sickens me to this day. Guess which one it is?

I'll guess it's either the Magic throwing the ball away to Gerald Henderson game or the 39 point loss to close out the 2008 Finals.

[Dirks_Finale]

I can watch just about any game, no matter how heartbreaking the loss...except for one, which still sickens me to this day. Guess which one it is?

The 2008 finals game where the Lakers pissed away a 23 point pead?

[DMC]

I said "You know, I haven't looked at ESPN in a long time" so I went to the NBA page and thought "I bet they are talking about Jordan, their savior.." and sure enough, there he was. All this time, it's Jordan. Where are all these other players? Oh that's right, they are mostly boring as fuck and overrated.

[DeadlyDynasty]

The 2008 finals game where the Lakers pissed away a 23 point pead?yup, Game 4 of 2008 Finals, and it was 24 points I think.

I was too young to remember Game 7 in 1984, and Game 6 2008 didn’t sting one bit cause I didn’t watch it (or the cheap W in Game 5 before, either). That series ended with the Game 4 collapse.

[Dirks_Finale]

I thought they gave Radmanovich (spelling?) entirely too much playing time in that series. A gimpy Ariza was the better option.

All in all, that 08 C's team was a real MF'er. Underrated cause they only won it once. But I would put that 08 C's team up against almost anyone less maybe the 96-98 Bulls.


yup, Game 4 of 2008 Finals, and it was 24 points I think.

I was too young to remember Game 7 in 1984, and Game 6 2008 didn’t sting one bit cause I didn’t watch it (or the cheap W in Game 5 before, either). That series ended with the Game 4 collapse.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Bynum not being there also decimated our front court like nothing I’ve ever seen. Fucking Leon Powe beat us by himself in Game 2 and even PJ Brown had important contributions. Just Bynum’s presence in that series would’ve been good enough for one win imo. I agree that C’s team was great but none of those guys had any championship experience, just playoff failure (especially KG), so they weren’t how we view them now in hindsight, at least at that point in time. What made that loss especially frustrating was how AWFUL the Celtics were on the road in those playoffs...they were straight dogshit away from home, yet they managed to win that game. Makes me nauseous to this day...it’s up there with Scott Norwood and the late/phantom PI call against the U in the NCG for most painful sports memories

[DeadlyDynasty]

Makes me nauseous to this day...it’s up there with Scott Norwood and the late/phantom PI call against the U in the NCG for most painful sports memories
Forgot to add the Music City Forward Lateral too

[lefty]

The 08 Celtics had one the best supporting casts/benches ever

[ambchang]

I can watch just about any game, no matter how heartbreaking the loss...except for one, which still sickens me to this day. Guess which one it is?

Game 6 vs. the Kings because it was too over done and exposed the Lakers even to casual fans?

[ambchang]

Bynum not being there also decimated our front court like nothing I’ve ever seen. Fucking Leon Powe beat us by himself in Game 2 and even PJ Brown had important contributions. Just Bynum’s presence in that series would’ve been good enough for one win imo. I agree that C’s team was great but none of those guys had any championship experience, just playoff failure (especially KG), so they weren’t how we view them now in hindsight, at least at that point in time. What made that loss especially frustrating was how AWFUL the Celtics were on the road in those playoffs...they were straight dogshit away from home, yet they managed to win that game. Makes me nauseous to this day...it’s up there with Scott Norwood and the late/phantom PI call against the U in the NCG for most painful sports memories

Yeah, you guys need great big frontilnes to win. Always had, always will.

[Dirks_Finale]

Jordan -- last game as a bull in NYC. In the classic Jordan's:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQ6NzTFJaQ

[Spurtacular]

Jordan -- last game as a bull in NYC. In the classic Jordan's:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MQ6NzTFJaQ

NBA had to fight extra hard that year to get Old Man Jordan a ring.

[Dirks_Finale]

Only legitimate challenge was Indy. And the game 7 was in Chicago. They got home cooking the same way the Spurs got home cooking vs Detroit in 2005...or the Lakers in 2010.


NBA had to fight extra hard that year to get Old Man Jordan a ring.

[lefty]

NBA had to fight extra hard that year to get Old Man Jordan a ring.

Yuo

Jordan was starting to het really slow and his scoring was inflated by BS free throws .

He needed help even aganst the .... NJ Nets :lmao
Kittles and Gill didn’t even touch him and they were called for phantom fouls :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Young Tim vs older Hakeem.

Mario Elie the game winner


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zURUcwgvhDY

[Spurtacular]

Only legitimate challenge was Indy. And the game 7 was in Chicago. They got home cooking the same way the Spurs got home cooking vs Detroit in 2005...or the Lakers in 2010.

:lol No

[140]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEqOlYjbaQw

[Pelicans78]

:lol No

Yeah there was definitely home cooking in that game 7. Both Wallaces and McDyess were in foul trouble by the 3rd quarter. It was awful. And Duncan was still 10/27 from the field. Though it would have been moot if Sheed didn’t leave Horry wide open in Game 5.

[Dirks_Finale]

I think the Spurs had 6 or 7 more points from the line in game 7. And numerous other fouls that occurred on them that were overlooked.

Spurs don't just get homecooking in game 7's at home, they get it at ANY home game as the refs are terrified of Pop.


Yeah there was definitely home cooking in that game 7. Both Wallaces and McDyess were in foul trouble by the 3rd quarter. It was awful. And Duncan was still 10/27 from the field. Though it would have been moot if Sheed didn’t leave Horry wide open in Game 5.

[Dirks_Finale]

Tmac or Penny before the injury? Who ya got.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEqOlYjbaQw

[lefty]

Tmac or Penny before the injury? Who ya got.

Both better thsn Jordan

[Spurtacular]

Yeah there was definitely home cooking in that game 7. Both Wallaces and McDyess were in foul trouble by the 3rd quarter. It was awful. And Duncan was still 10/27 from the field. Though it would have been moot if Sheed didn’t leave Horry wide open in Game 5.

That may be; but I've watched that game multiple times, and it has never struck me that the calls were off IIRC. Sometimes players have to pay for not being disciplined. Perhaps that's a big part of why TD was 10/27; they decided to be extra aggressive. Fouls is often the trade-off.

[Spurtacular]

Tmac or Penny before the injury? Who ya got.

Anfernee is in the over-rated column. I imagine a fanboy like you loved him.

[Spurtacular]

Spurs get it at ANY home game as the refs are terrified of Pop.

Pop doesn't get calls. He makes an effort too make sure the league doesn't totally fuck the Spurs over; which is basically what they want.
Spurs are bad for ratings. Game plan is usually to f them over. Fortunately, Detroit wasn't a ratings horse either. That series and the New Jersey series had low levels of BS.

[140]

Tmac or Penny before the injury? Who ya got.

I'd need to watch more tape on Penny to answer that tbh but my feel is he was much more of a playmaker and all rounder while TMac could flat out score with the best of them (sure he could playmake but usually not his focus), so kind of different games really. Defensively I think TMac rarely put the effort in so maybe Penny was better on that end but not sure.

[lefty]

I'd need to watch more tape on Penny to answer that tbh but my feel is he was much more of a playmaker and all rounder while TMac could flat out score with the best of them (sure he could playmake but usually not his focus), so kind of different games really. Defensively I think TMac rarely put the effort in so maybe Penny was better on that end but not sure.
T-Mac actually had both responsibilities in ORlando and Houston

He was the playmaker and scorer and was pretty good at both

Penny was more of a playmaker but could be scorer if his team needed points

In the 1st round vs Miami in 97 he had back to back 45 pt games he was amazing

Jordan and Pippen couldn't guard him either

[Dirks_Finale]

Tmac was a tad better.

But since Penny's assist numbers were nice prior to the injury, I'd figure you Lebron stat sheet holders would prefer him.


Anfernee is in the over-rated column. I imagine a fanboy like you loved him.

[Dirks_Finale]

Penny could absolutely take over. But he had young, hungry Shaq, down low. And we know he was not playing second fiddle to anyone.


I'd need to watch more tape on Penny to answer that tbh but my feel is he was much more of a playmaker and all rounder while TMac could flat out score with the best of them (sure he could playmake but usually not his focus), so kind of different games really. Defensively I think TMac rarely put the effort in so maybe Penny was better on that end but not sure.

[Dirks_Finale]

Better at what? Losing in the 1st round of the playoffs?


Both better thsn Jordan

[Spurtacular]

Penny could absolutely take over. But he had young, hungry Shaq, down low. And we know he was not playing second fiddle to anyone.

He was a porcelain doll. Very limited. He would be better suited for today's NBA.

[lefty]

Better at what? Losing in the 1st round of the playoffs?
Jordan did that very well before Pippen and he also got swept in the process :lol

[Pelicans78]

Jordan did that very well before Pippen and he also got swept in the process :lol

Pippen was trash his rookie season. Grant made more of an impact on that team. But the biggest Jordan won that season was his game dramatically improved from the prior season. Pippen didn’t help him beat Cleveland that series.

[FrostKing]

Jordan in 1989

32.5 PPG
8.0 TRB
8.0 APG
2.9 SPG
53% shooting

:reading

[Dirks_Finale]

Jordan in 1989

32.5 PPG
8.0 TRB
8.0 APG
2.9 SPG
53% shooting

:reading
Lebron like stats for those who think Jordan couldn't do it. But also shot like 85% from the line. So that means he could actually sink a clutch free throw, unlike the self proclaimed king.

[baseline bum]

Tmac or Penny before the injury? Who ya got.

I'll take Mac. Especially since he was a pretty good defender before he had to be a one man team in Orlando.

[Dirks_Finale]

Spur's fans will love this. Damn, I had forgotten how spry Tim was early on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt-6dG_dKjM

[lefty]

Lebron like stats for those who think Jordan couldn't do it. But also shot like 85% from the line. So that means he could actually sink a clutch free throw, unlike the self proclaimed king.
Lol LeBron would averae 50 ppg 20 rbds and 15 apg against those shit YMCA rejects in ISO era :lol

[lefty]

Watch Sabonis highlights , USSR vs USA

David Robinson was like WTF :lol

Young healthy Sabonis was a freak , too bad he couldn't join the NBA earlier because of political BS

Arvydas and CLyde? Dad Killer wouldn't have sniffed a title in the early 90s :lol

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eonuW7tQMQs

6:06 Company man tries to call a jump and effectively ice the game for the Bulls. Such BS.

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CV4G_W0tZk

9:58 - Barkley needs to make that to ice the game; but fake offensive foul call keeps the Bulls in it and gives them the championship.

[FrostKing]

Lol LeBron would averae 50 ppg 20 rbds and 15 apg against those shit YMCA rejects in ISO era :lol
https://i.ibb.co/fD7bQVd/headshot-1570571708.jpg

[Dirks_Finale]

Did you miss the two handed pushoff by Reggie at 7:03 on Jordan? Had that been Ginobili he would flopped as though he were shot out of a canon.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eonuW7tQMQs

6:06 Company man tries to call a jump and effectively ice the game for the Bulls. Such BS.

[Dirks_Finale]

:lol

And there's this guy as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHtuQIJ1F1U
https://i.ibb.co/fD7bQVd/headshot-1570571708.jpg

[Dirks_Finale]

Karl Malone vs average defender, Longley= unstoppable.

Insert Rodman who occupies space inside Karl's head, rent free = 54 total points for Utah.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ftf0VIZ3Ibw

[lefty]

;lol Jordan got outscored by Danny The Pastor Ainge in an elimination game

:lol Danny Ainge

Thats not better :lol

:lol and he couldn’t use the zone excuse

:lol and Jordan faved shit players every night
:lol if he had to face Kawhi, PG, KD, Iggy etc on a regular basis he would have had his shit pushed in

:lol Lebron haters clinging to 1 series

[Dirks_Finale]

Lebron formed a super team and still got outplayed by role players. Let that sink in for a moment. These weren't 80s crack head Bulls teammates. It's Wade and Bosh.

[lefty]

Lebron formed a super team and still got outplayed by role. Let that sink in for a moment. These weren't 80s crack head Bulls teammates. It's Wade and Bosh.
Super teams are not new FFS

Magic had a great situation in LA - Magic even threatened to stay 1 more year in NCAA if the Lakers didn't draft him

Same with Bird in Boston

Moses went to Philly, Erving and Moses were both ringless before that

Barkley teamed up twice


Jordan was openly throwing the FO under the bus and threatened to leave, but thankfully for Bulls fans, Pippen and Phil arrived; then later he had the then best European player and 6th man and Rodman (and again shit competition I might add)

Why woud he leave that team?

Jordan would have bolted if the team didn't get better

:lol you old heads keep throwing dumb shit

[Dirks_Finale]

Super teams are not new FFS

Magic had a great situation in LA - Magic even threatened to stay 1 more year in NCAA if the Lakers didn't draft him

Same with Bird in Boston

Moses went to Philly, Erving and Moses were both ringless before that

Barkley teamed up twice


Jordan was openly throwing the FO under the bus and threatened to leave, but thankfully for Bulls fans, Pippen and Phil arrived; then later he had the then best European player and 6th man and Rodman (and again shit competition I might add)

Why woud he leave that team?

Jordan would have bolted if the team didn't get better

:lol you old heads keep throwing dumb shit

You keep referencing one game in which Jordan supposedly got outscored by a role player. That team was not exactly the 98 bulls, Lefty. It wasn't close to being the caliber of the 2011 Heatles. Lebron got outscored by 0 time all star Jason f#ckin Terry in that 6 game series. That's kind of a big deal if you want put him on a GOAT pedestal in which he doesn't belong.

[lefty]

You keep referencing one game in which Jordan supposedly got outscored by a role player. That team was not exactly the 98 bulls, Lefty. It wasn't close to being the caliber of the 2011 Heatles. Lebron got outscored by 0 time all star Jason f#ckin Terry in that 6 game series. That's kind of a big deal if you want put him on a GOAT pedestal in which he doesn't belong.
there are other games :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Name a SERIES in which Jordan got outscored by a role player. :nope


there are other games :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Go to 10:53.

Jordan missed a shot, PHX comes down and Majerle misses another 3. Scared of Jordan's defense so he takes a three, maybe outside his range. His own coach tells him he choked after they got the offensive board and called timeout. Phoenix just was not good enough. Scared.:lol



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CV4G_W0tZk

9:58 - Barkley needs to make that to ice the game; but fake offensive foul call keeps the Bulls in it and gives them the championship.

[Dirks_Finale]

Not exactly a classic, yet. But damn it was fun to watch Harden getting his lunch money taken from him by old man, Manu.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjX71R69jlA

[Spurtacular]

Did you miss the two handed pushoff by Reggie at 7:03 on Jordan? Had that been Ginobili he would flopped as though he were shot out of a canon.

NBA notoriously "let them play" on those final plays. And Jordan could've been called for the foul first.

[Spurtacular]

Go to 10:53.

Jordan missed a shot, PHX comes down and Majerle misses another 3. Scared of Jordan's defense so he takes a three, maybe outside his range. His own coach tells him he choked after they got the offensive board and called timeout. Phoenix just was not good enough. Scared.:lol

Actually it was Frank Johnson missing the open shot to seal it; and then passing on another open shot to seal it.
Ainge leaving Paxson was incredibly stupid too. Giving up a shot for OT was acceptable. Leaving the game winner open for three, no.

[lefty]

Actually it was Frank Johnson missing the open shot to seal it; and then passing on another open shot to seal it.
Ainge leaving Paxson was incredibly stupid too. Giving up a shot for OT was acceptable. Leaving the game winner open for three, no.
Ainge reacted quickly to Barkley's dumb gamble, I dont thin he had the time to think about it , it went so fast
I think he didn't expect Chuck to go for the steal

[Dirks_Finale]

I would not have pressed full court like Westfall chose to do. Bring a hard trap when he comes across midcourt if you really want the ball out of Jordan's hands.


Actually it was Frank Johnson missing the open shot to seal it; and then passing on another open shot to seal it.
Ainge leaving Paxson was incredibly stupid too. Giving up a shot for OT was acceptable. Leaving the game winner open for three, no.

[ambchang]

Spur's fans will love this. Damn, I had forgotten how spry Tim was early on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vt-6dG_dKjM

Loved those constant doubles on Duncan and they actually left Shaq relatively opened most of the time. The game also started off with some very questionable calls in favour of Duncan, but then the second half some of those shots he was clearly fouled with nothing called. Not sure what that is.

[ambchang]

Not exactly a classic, yet. But damn it was fun to watch Harden getting his lunch money taken from him by old man, Manu.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjX71R69jlA

How in the world can you let Danny Green drive on you for an and-1 play in the clutch?

[lefty]

I would not have pressed full court like Westfall chose to do. Bring a hard trap when he comes across midcourt if you really want the ball out of Jordan's hands.
Yup

[140]

Annoying how the NBA keeps broadcasting on yt some games from the last 5-6 years nobody gives a shit about instead of giving us some real classics tbh

[Dirks_Finale]

How in the world can you let Danny Green drive on you for an and-1 play in the clutch?

:lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Annoying how the NBA keeps broadcasting on yt some games from the last 5-6 years nobody gives a shit about instead of giving us some real classics tbh

ESPN had a pretty good one on tonight prior to the all star game. A certain lone superstar with a busted up digit uses that same hand to win game 2 of the series vs a super friends dream team.

[140]

ESPN had a pretty good one on tonight prior to the all star game. A certain lone superstar with a busted up digit uses that same hand to win game 2 of the series vs a super friends dream team.

Well to be fair the NBA did have that one on youtube last week iirc tbh. But then they will have some random embiid/washed drose/john wall games most of the time when they are sitting on piles and piles of classic games

[lefty]

Annoying how the NBA keeps broadcasting on yt some games from the last 5-6 years nobody gives a shit about instead of giving us some real classics tbh

You can find full 80s-90s games on YT tbh

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/TY7YSiJZ8sw

[Dirks_Finale]

Biggest difference between hardliner Stern and the more pragmatic Silver. I think Silver takes everything into account and Amare and Diaw do not get suspended. Maybe they do, but use common sense and make it the first game of the regular season next year. Don't let petty stuff like that ruin a good playoff series. Amare did not come out and knock everyone out lol.

Anyway, I think SA wins it in any scenario as the Sons were owned by Pop and just could not get stops and boards when they needed it.



https://youtu.be/TY7YSiJZ8sw

[140]

You can find full 80s-90s games on YT tbh

Shit quality usually tbh

[lefty]

Shit quality usually tbh
Well nothing can be done about it really, yesterday's tech limtations

Although i did find some very high quality uploads from various Youtubers

[Spurtacular]

I always thought Nash embellished that foul.

[Fabbs]

I always thought Nash embellished that foul.
He said he did.

Nash has been stand up about that play all along.

[Dirks_Finale]

Yup -- a stand up guy overall in regards to his career. Doesn't blame anyone but himself for his lack of rings.


He said he did.

Nash has been stand up about that play all along.

[lefty]

Yup -- a stand up guy overall in regards to his career. Doesn't blame anyone but himself for his lack of rings.
It's a canadian thing
Sorry I couldMt lead my team to a title , sorreh

[Dirks_Finale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwajJs7dflQ

Sonics/Jazz GM7 1996.

Malone, another notorious choker from the line manages to do it again. 6/12 from the stripe. Ball game. Series.

[Dirks_Finale]

This is like watching Lebron's teams vs eastern conference competition from 2011 onward :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1sSxxIDjKU

[FrostKing]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwajJs7dflQ

Sonics/Jazz GM7 1996.

Malone, another notorious choker from the line manages to do it again. 6/12 from the stripe. Ball game. Series.
Jazz changed uniforms after this, to the snowy Mountain. Good decision.

[Dirks_Finale]

Jazz changed uniforms after this, to the snowy Mountain. Good decision.

By far their best uniforms.

[Seventyniner]

By far their best uniforms.

All they had to do was keep those and change their team name to something that actually has something to do with Utah.

[FrostKing]

:lma

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRFZt9hYtg4

[lefty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRFZt9hYtg4

Good stuff tbh

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EleYY90BW1E

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EleYY90BW1E

Interesting that if not for Dolph Shayes, Bob Cousy would've been the all-time NBA pts. leader at one point!

[Spurtacular]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SK_FHhauu8s

[Dirks_Finale]

Dražen Petrović quicker release than even Steph?


youtube.com/watch?v=R7AhrUIc87o

Won't let me inbed it.

[Spurtacular]

Dražen Petrović quicker release than even Steph?


youtube.com/watch?v=R7AhrUIc87o

Won't let me inbed it.

Would not be surprised if Stern had him killed along with Len Bias and Reggie Lewis.

[dbreiden83080]

ESPN Plus has some classic Bulls Games..

93 Bulls/Knicks Jordan scores 54.
92 Finals with the 3 PT barrage against the Blazers
Before that I watched the 2003 close out game 6 Spurs/Nets..

[lefty]

Would not be surprised if Stern had him killed along with Len Bias and Reggie Lewis.
Agreed
Petro and Mad Max wget mad respect from me, they didn't bow down to his Airness when they played the Bulls, they talked shit to him and never backed down

Stern also delayed Sabonis arrival in the NBA; imagine young healthy Sabonis in Portland :wow - and swiftly destroyed the 86 Rockets when everybody was doing coke in the 80s

[Dirks_Finale]

Spurs fans will enjoy this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GEUMSzsH9M

[TDMVPDPOY]

been watching some robinson h2h games...look at his roster in those games...lol fkn gleague wankers

[dbreiden83080]

Just watched the 98 ECF Game 7.. Holy Fuck Reggie Miller should be ashamed of himself. What a Dog Shit Non Effort in the 4th Qtr.. He got up 1 Fucking Shot.. An air ball that was put back in. Jordan was guarding him, but he was passive as fuck. I watched this guy give his all in series with the Knicks for years, but one game from the Finals against MJ, and The Bulls he just shied away.. God Damn Pitiful..

[FrostKing]

Just watched the 98 ECF Game 7.. Holy Fuck Reggie Miller should be ashamed of himself. What a Dog Shit Non Effort in the 4th Qtr.. He got up 1 Fucking Shot.. An air ball that was put back in. Jordan was guarding him, but he was passive as fuck. I watched this guy give his all in series with the Knicks for years, but one game from the Finals against MJ, and The Bulls he just shied away.. God Damn Pitiful..
Maybe he just ran outta gas. Compared to Michael, Reggie was bone thin. Michael wasn't doing much in that 4th Quarter in terms of scoring but his body and possibly determination allowed him to make game changing plays without scoring. Grabbing that lose ball and then "winning" the jumpball against Rik Smits. Dunno why Reggie never stepped foot in a gym.

[FrostKing]

Today is anniversary of the Elie "Kiss of Death"


https://youtu.be/BMLeeyKbJTo


Barkley - 23 rebounds
KJ - 46 points

in a lose :wow

[dbreiden83080]

Maybe he just ran outta gas. Compared to Michael, Reggie was bone thin. Michael wasn't doing much in that 4th Quarter in terms of scoring but his body and possibly determination allowed him to make game changing plays without scoring. Grabbing that lose ball and then "winning" the jumpball against Rik Smits. Dunno why Reggie never stepped foot in a gym.

Jordan played very well despite not shooting the ball well. Yes his iron will was on display as usual. But Reggie saying on the Last Dance "I didn't fear him" Really? 4th QTR in the biggest game of your career, you looked like you were ready for Summer Vacation..

[Dirks_Finale]

Maybe he just ran outta gas. Compared to Michael, Reggie was bone thin. Michael wasn't doing much in that 4th Quarter in terms of scoring but his body and possibly determination allowed him to make game changing plays without scoring. Grabbing that lose ball and then "winning" the jumpball against Rik Smits. Dunno why Reggie never stepped foot in a gym.

His game was running around off the ball and sliding between or around bodies to get a shot. Maybe he figured bulk would have slowed him down some so he chose to remain Durant like in frame.

[Dirks_Finale]

Jordan played very well despite not shooting the ball well. Yes his iron will was on display as usual. But Reggie saying on the Last Dance "I didn't fear him" Really? 4th QTR in the biggest game of your career, you looked like you were ready for Summer Vacation..

Jordan looked like Kobe in gm 7 vs Celtics in 2010. Couldn't hit from the floor but did everything else. Good defense, timley rebounds. Just willing their teams to a series win. Miller lacked that extra special something that the big dogs had.

[dbreiden83080]

Jordan looked like Kobe in gm 7 vs Celtics in 2010. Couldn't hit from the floor but did everything else. Good defense, timley rebounds. Just willing their teams to a series win. Miller lacked that extra special something that the big dogs had.

What I found baffling about it, was in other playoff series he did NOT Shy away. He went out shooting trying to be the man, and often being the man in the 4th. Isiah Thomas was calling him out on the broadcast "Where is Reggie" 1 shot in the 4th WTF. Jordan's D is good,

But 1 Shot Reggie?

[lefty]

What I found baffling about it, was in other playoff series he did NOT Shy away. He went out shooting trying to be the man, and often being the man in the 4th. Isiah Thomas was calling him out on the broadcast "Where is Reggie" 1 shot in the 4th WTF. Jordan's D is good,

But 1 Shot Reggie?
Reggie needs to see a Knick jersey to get going :lol

[baseline bum]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwdRWIwCEPo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbBJQbt3hiA

LOL Chick Hearn putting this one in the refrigerator before Sacramento had even scored. Get in here KillaKobe81, figured you'd get a kick out of this one. :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F7l1Go5U-Nw

[Dirks_Finale]

Says the video is unavailable..

Watched on youtube. Hilarious




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwdRWIwCEPo


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbBJQbt3hiA

LOL Chick Hearn putting this one in the refrigerator before Sacramento had even scored. Get in here KillaKobe81, figured you'd get a kick out of this one. :lol

[lefty]

Yeah 90s NBA video are unwatchable as well

[lefty]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CV4G_W0tZk

9:58 - Barkley needs to make that to ice the game; but fake offensive foul call keeps the Bulls in it and gives them the championship.
I live those bloopers videos
90s basketball was so funny

[FrostKing]

Yeah 90s NBA video are unwatchable as well
Scared of post play

[lefty]

Scared of post play
I actually like post play
McHale and Hakeem had exquisite post play

Barkley not so much as he was a ball stopper

[Dirks_Finale]

What's much funnier is watching someone like James Harden's(or many others in this era) half hearted attempt at playing anything that even slightly resembles defense.


I live those bloopers videos
90s basketball was so funny

[Dirks_Finale]

An unkept looking midget more than holding his own vs the 'king'. :lol

Even trash talking him at the end of the clip saying it's actually no challenge guarding him.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln6__IOw0o4

[lefty]

What's much funnier is watching someone like James Harden's(or many others in this era) half hearted attempt at playing anything that even slightly resembles defense.
Harden would have averaged 55 pog in the 90s tbh

[FrostKing]

https://youtu.be/cENqu-9-jD4

[140]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPkHlUJLqBE

Fin really was discount Jordan in his prime tbh

[Dirks_Finale]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPkHlUJLqBE

Fin really was discount Jordan in his prime tbh

Still not happy with him for running off the Spurs and helping them rang.

[140]

Still not happy with him for running off the Spurs and helping them rang.
Yeah that was a tough one to swallow but it made sense for him after he was amnesty'd by Cuban. He was such a big part of those late 90s-early 00s teams and had a such an important role mentoring both Dirk and Nash that I just can't hate on him for that though tbh

[Dirks_Finale]

Yeah that was a tough one to swallow but it made sense for him after he was amnesty'd by Cuban. He was such a big part of those late 90s-early 00s teams and had a such an important role mentoring both Dirk and Nash that I just can't hate on him for that though tbh

You are right. He was huge for us.

I remember Cuban like begging and pleading with him to go anywhere except SA. And he did it, i think just to give Mark the middle finger.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Still not happy with him for running off the Spurs and helping them rang.

Helped Dallas get to the Finals in '06 with his piss poor defense on Howard/Steakhouse

[lefty]

Typo?
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[Dirks_Finale]

That was so awesome. (not ejaculation lol) the ejection.

I knew Crawford was wrong but I loved it anyway. :lol


Typo?
1265796583934869504

[lefty]

That was so awesome. (not ejaculation lol) the ejection.

I knew Crawford was wrong but I loved it anyway. :lol
Duncan'sreaction when Joey ejected him :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Priceless.

But then we won 67 that year and got embarrassed in the 1st RD, while they rang. So Spur's fans had the bigger laugh at the end of the day.


Duncan'sreaction when Joey ejected him :lol

[lefty]

Priceless.

But then we won 67 that year and got embarrassed in the 1st RD, while they rang. So Spur's fans had the bigger laugh at the end of the day.
I hated the Mavs back then but felt bad for Dirk
GI was happy to see him ring in 11

[lefty]

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[Dirks_Finale]

1266040122924908544
:lol

[lefty]

:lol

I’ve been listening to his confinement podcasts , especially the ones with Russilo and the Rewatchables segments

Good stuff

[Spurtacular]

Great series b/c KG being injured and the Bulls back court playing above their heads evened the teams.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyt9wICRWiE

[lefty]

Great series b/c KG being injured and the Bulls back court playing above their heads evened the teams.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyt9wICRWiE
Some say that Celtics-Bulls series is the GOAT series
It’s not a stretch tbh

[FrostKing]

Funnest time as a fan. Low expectations. We let Ben walk to the Pistons for huge contract. Bulls would return with similar core and improved Rose

[Dirks_Finale]

Interesting piece for those of us who never saw these two face off. Wilt was on the way out when Kareem was popping. But seemed very critical of him throughout the rest of his life. Battle of generations and egos. My generation is better than your's. Y'all don't do it the way I did it....Sound familiar? :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQaH7phVVpw

[Dirks_Finale]

Another excellent clip.

Zeke being the jerk he was trying to swing on Mahorn. He looked like he was standing next to a redwood tree.

And then there's Laimbeer vs Barkley. :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90-MMxiXI0Q

[lefty]

Interesting piece for those of us who never saw these two face off. Wilt was on the way out when Kareem was popping. But seemed very critical of him throughout the rest of his life. Battle of generations and egos. My generation is better than your's. Y'all don't do it the way I did it....Sound familiar? :lol


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQaH7phVVpw

Muh era was better than yours :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Muh era was better than yours :lol

95% plumbers in Wilt's era?

[lefty]

95% plumbers in Wilt's era?

More like milkmen and Korea War vets

[Dirks_Finale]

Meh, they were probably tougher than today's Instagram models that play basketball. :lol


More like milkmen and Korea War vets

[lefty]

Meh, they were probably tougher than today's Instagram models that play basketball. :lol

Tougher?
Maybe

Less skilled and athletic?
Absolutely :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Tougher?
Maybe

Less skilled and athletic?
Absolutely :lol
Being mentally and physically tough matters. Just look at the 1990 Pistons vs the more skilled Bulls ...or the 2004 Pistons vs the more skilled Lakers...or the 2016 Cavs vs the more skilled Warriors. .

Or look at Durbeta in any big playoff series in which he is not on a stacked team. :lol

[DMC]

Tougher?
Maybe

Less skilled and athletic?
Absolutely :lol

They weren't sitting out every other game or being carried off the court because the AC went out.

[lefty]

They weren't sitting out every other game or being carried off the court because the AC went out.
Jordan took 1.5 years off
:lol
Nostalgia goggles

[lefty]

Being mentally and physically tough matters. Just look at the 1990 Pistons vs the more skilled Bulls ...or the 2004 Pistons vs the more skilled Lakers...or the 2016 Cavs vs the more skilled Warriors. .

Or look at Durbeta in any big playoff series in which he is not on a stacked team. :lol
Actually they weren’t tougher back then :lol

Another nostalgia myth :lol

Yes Durbeta is soft
But he would still dominate rhe 90s despite being soft, that’s how shitty that era was :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Actually they weren’t tougher back then :lol

Another nostalgia myth :lol

Yes Durbeta is soft
But he would still dominate rhe 90s despite being soft, that’s how shitty that era was :lol

You are dreaming again. Snap out if it :lol

You know Durbeta came into the NBA barely able to bench 100lbs right? In the 90s he'd be carried off on a stretcher and retire from the game of basketball the first week of his rookie season. :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

They weren't sitting out every other game or being carried off the court because the AC went out.

Great point.

[lefty]

You are dreaming again. Snap out if it :lol

You know Durbeta came into the NBA barely able to bench 100lbs right? In the 90s he'd be carried off on a stretcher and retire from the game of basketball the first week of his rookie season. :lol

And fail :lol

Gervin was built like a stick figure and was less skilled than KD

That didn’t prevent him from being a top scorer and he didn’t die either

[lefty]

Great point.
That 1.5 year off tho :lol