Keldon to have dominant primary role in the future for San Antonio Spurs?

[ZeusWillJudge]

More here, including a video:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CESc6GSJVLK/?igshid=fz40sa0eik94

He's practicing the Eurostep and a step back jumper!!!! NBA, watch out!!!


He got his own logo? I hadn't seen that till the end of that video. You know he's serious if he's already planning to be a brand. :D

Thanks for posting all that. Look at the definition on that young man. He's obviously been putting in the work. I've always believed he'll be able to hit the 3 at a good enough clip, and he's a bulldog on D. If he develops the ability to create his own shot, he's got it all.

Thanks for posting. :tu

[ace3g]

He got his own logo? I hadn't seen that till the end of that video. You know he's serious if he's already planning to be a brand. :D

Thanks for posting all that. Look at the definition on that young man. He's obviously been putting in the work. I've always believed he'll be able to hit the 3 at a good enough clip, and he's a bulldog on D. If he develops the ability to create his own shot, he's got it all.

Thanks for posting. :tu

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Yeah he has had the logo for some time now. He also has a website:


https://www.keldon-johnson.com/

Him and his brother- Kaleb also host youth camps.

http://www.thenewsprogress.com/sports/article_cf504716-b9e7-11e9-8e70-93c15b9be33f.html

Plus he has the KJ3 Foundation that also hosts youth camps as well.

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[ZeusWillJudge]

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Yeah he has had the log for some time now. He also has a website:


https://www.keldon-johnson.com/

Him and his brother- Kaleb also host youth camps.

http://www.thenewsprogress.com/sports/article_cf504716-b9e7-11e9-8e70-93c15b9be33f.html

Plus he has the KJ3 Foundation that also hosts youth camps as well.



Thanks.

Starting a foundation on a late first-rounder salary takes some hands-on commitment. There's just a lot to like about KJ.

[exstatic]

He bettuh trademark that puppy. Don’t be dumb like the nephew and let your shoe company snag it. :lol

[Sugus]

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the grind never stops https://abs.twimg.com/emoji/v2/72x72/1f624.png

My guy built like a freight train. We're seriously going to look back in a few years and wonder how the hell did he fall to us. What a steal...

[Dejounte]

Keldon's agent in an interview said that Keldon was serious about his diet and had a full blown diet plan to get his body ready.

Contrast that with what DJ said in the past how the Spurs lets him eat whatever he wants.

It's not about just how hard you work, but how smart you work. I have a feeling Keldon's workout regime is more thought out than what DJ probably does.... DJ probably just shoots around with his crew and calls it working hard... Alright, enough shitting on DJ lol

[spurspl]

Keldon's agent in an interview said that Keldon was serious about his diet and had a full blown diet plan to get his body ready.

Contrast that with what DJ said in the past how the Spurs lets him eat whatever he wants.

It's not about just how hard you work, but how smart you work. I have a feeling Keldon's workout regime is more thought out than what DJ probably does.... DJ probably just shoots around with his crew and calls it working hard... Alright, enough shitting on DJ lol

ohh cmon, DJ is a star. He doesnt need to work hard or keep diet

[TimDunkem]

Keldon's agent in an interview said that Keldon was serious about his diet and had a full blown diet plan to get his body ready.

Contrast that with what DJ said in the past how the Spurs lets him eat whatever he wants.

It's not about just how hard you work, but how smart you work. I have a feeling Keldon's workout regime is more thought out than what DJ probably does.... DJ probably just shoots around with his crew and calls it working hard... Alright, enough shitting on DJ lol
You should ask a mod to change your name to Keldon. :lol

[Dejounte]

You should ask a mod to change your name to Keldon. :lol

Lmfao

My name is no longer based off the player

But based off a new era

And DJ was the first young player after Kawhi

At least that's the way im forcing myself to look at it now

[Seventyniner]

Lmfao

My name is no longer based off the player

But based off a new era

And DJ was the first young player after Kawhi

At least that's the way im forcing myself to look at it now

Murray is still young enough to turn things around. He's not even off course by all that much. But the early signs aren't terribly encouraging.

[look_at_g_shred]

He’s going to be really good, guys.

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1298349059032469505?s=19

Off-season has barely begun yet Keldon putting in some massive work already. Incredible work ethic. We're gonna be thanking the Raptors for throwing in that pick quite soon...

[Dejounte]

Kid takes no breaks... Worked out this morning and tonight as well. Has a different pair of Kobe shoes today. Seems like he was a huge Kobe fan but was not as vocal about it as others. He's a little bit bigger than Kobe in terms of size. If he could be our Kobe...

[DAF86]

He got his own logo? I hadn't seen that till the end of that video. You know he's serious if he's already planning to be a brand. :D

Thanks for posting all that. Look at the definition on that young man. He's obviously been putting in the work. I've always believed he'll be able to hit the 3 at a good enough clip, and he's a bulldog on D. If he develops the ability to create his own shot, he's got it all.

Thanks for posting. :tu

Having your own logo, that reminds me of nephew. Not a good sign.

[pad300]

Kid takes no breaks... Worked out this morning and tonight as well. Has a different pair of Kobe shoes today. Seems like he was a huge Kobe fan but was not as vocal about it as others. He's a little bit bigger than Kobe in terms of size. If he could be our Kobe...

I sure hope he doesn't turn into our Kobe - we don't need a narcissitic asshole who only has success when carried by the best frontline(s) in the NBA, and can't get along with his own teammates...

[Dejounte]

I sure hope he doesn't turn into our Kobe - we don't need a narcissitic asshole who only has success when carried by the best frontline(s) in the NBA, and can't get along with his own teammates...

Well, yeah...

They couldn't be farther apart personality-wise. "Everybody loves Keldon" is what Derrick White said.

I believe Keldon will be way more marketable than Kawhi ever was with his personality. BIG BODYYYYYY! He should trademark that right now ...

[R. DeMurre]

KJ got meaningful minutes in the last 12 games the Spurs played. His total includes 4 games in March and 8 in the restart.
If you take the last 12 games of each of these players, this is the +/- you get:


Keldon: +63
White: +56
Walker: +10

Forbes: -53
Belinelli: -12

One reason to feel optimistic about next season.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/whitede01/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnske04/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/forbebr01/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/belinma01/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walkelo01/gamelog/2020

[Seventyniner]

KJ got meaningful minutes in the last 12 games the Spurs played. His total includes 4 games in March and 8 in the restart.
If you take the last 12 games of each of these players, this is the +/- you get:


Keldon: +63
White: +56
Walker: +10

Forbes: -53
Belinelli: -12

One reason to feel optimistic about next season.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/whitede01/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnske04/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/forbebr01/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/belinma01/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walkelo01/gamelog/2020

Thank god that Forbes and Beli are free agents. If either of them are brought back I will be pissed.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why hasnt our younger players blossom out yet?

is it due to pops system?

veterans on the team getting their minutes and touches first??

remember when white vs murray (nuggets) going toe to toe, now this playoffs murray has shown he can be a volume scorer if needed...where else white still has to play behind the chuckers on the team or fearing getting a ear load from pop for stupid mistakes?

[Atl Spur]

Branding is a great thing young Keldon, anyone with any business acumen understands that:) Keep on working big dog!!

[exstatic]

Having your own logo, that reminds me of nephew. Not a good sign.

Yeah, but this one doesn’t look like a thanksgiving turkey drawing by a second grader. :lol

Seriously, he’s the anti-Kawhi, in terms of personality. He’s polite, engaging, and fun in his interviews, and smiles a lot when interacting with his teammates.

[Dejounte]

Keldon has been in the same gym every morning this week:

https://instagram.com/stories/keldonjohnson/2385703304817459340?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=1wp13iracztgr

[Dejounte]

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[Ed Helicopter Jones]

My favorite young Spur.

[BackHome]

In two years people are going to be saying “How The Hell do the Spurs keep doing this - they got KY and now they got Keldon all non lottery draft picks”.

[Chomag]

Steal of that draft, and he has quickly become my favorite current Spur to watch. If Pop dares to let players like Forbes eat his playing time then I don't know what to say.

[exstatic]

In two years people are going to be saying “How The Hell do the Spurs keep doing this - they got KY and now they got Keldon all non lottery draft picks”.

Well, according to Calipari, FIVE teams passed on him, because he didn’t work out for them. The reality is, you can’t work out for 30 teams. There isn’t time, you risk injury, and even if you’re not injured, the last half of the workouts will be crap, because of physical exhaustion. You pick a group of maybe 8 teams who pick in the area of the draft where you’re projected to be picked, and you work out for them.

I’d like to personally thank those 5 GMs for being so butt hurt, though. :lol. I can almost guarantee KJ didn’t work out for the Spurs.

[Chinook]

Extremely fortunate that the Spurs got him at 29 -- that they had a 29th pick to get him at all. There's very little doubt in my mind that SA legit passed on Johnson for Sam and would've done so even if the team only had one first. KJ was expected to go in the teens, but it wouldn't surprise me if he worked out for lotto teams only similar to how Kyle Anderson only worked out for middle-round teams. Johnson's camp didn't seem to get that there were real questions about him given his role in college and disappointing measurements at the combine. His tape didn't speak for itself, and he needed to actively court GMs if he wanted to be drafted earlier.

The thing is, maybe the Spurs could've taken Bazley or Clarke at 19. But Johnson seems like a player either team would've picked had their guy been gone. I don't think it's realistic to assume the Spurs could've doubled up on good prospects in the last 11 picks of the round.

[Chinook]

Have people talked about this?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2019.html

So even though he barely played, Johnson was 13th among rookies in win-shares. KJ played in 17 games. The only player above him on the list that played fewer than 43 games is Zion. In terms of WS/48, Johnson finished the season at second. It was a similar thing with BPM (fifth) and VORP (seventh). Literally the only rookie you can say was better across the board was Clarke (#WillNeverBeOkay). It's hard to tell if the bubble helped or hurt his numbers. I don't mean if his stats are higher because of the last eight games -- that's obvious. But whether he would have been able to reach and sustain his impact over the course of a regular season.

Johnson's stats stack up well with the rest of the team. The aggregate stats still have him as a top-10 player on the club, and the rate stats have him as a top five. We'll see how he progresses in what will hopefully be a normal season next year. Certainly though, he's the most promising player currently on the roster. I'm still a huge Walker fan, but he had a bad year, with the bubble not helping his stats at all. He needs to come back with a reliable way to score in the NBA. That should be from finishing consistently from the rim, but an accurate shot would at least be something. Otherwise a guy like Nesmith could come in and completely remove Walker from the future rotation.

[Dejounte]

Johnson's first commercial?

https://instagram.com/stories/keldonjohnson/2390169488586106742?utm_source=ig_story_item_share&igshid=ml714cq1gy0n

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1301539569050046466

[Sugus]

Have people talked about this?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2019.html

So even though he barely played, Johnson was 13th among rookies in win-shares. KJ played in 17 games. The only player above him on the list that played fewer than 43 games is Zion. In terms of WS/48, Johnson finished the season at second. It was a similar thing with BPM (fifth) and VORP (seventh). Literally the only rookie you can say was better across the board was Clarke (#WillNeverBeOkay). It's hard to tell if the bubble helped or hurt his numbers. I don't mean if his stats are higher because of the last eight games -- that's obvious. But whether he would have been able to reach and sustain his impact over the course of a regular season.

Johnson's stats stack up well with the rest of the team. The aggregate stats still have him as a top-10 player on the club, and the rate stats have him as a top five. We'll see how he progresses in what will hopefully be a normal season next year. Certainly though, he's the most promising player currently on the roster. I'm still a huge Walker fan, but he had a bad year, with the bubble not helping his stats at all. He needs to come back with a reliable way to score in the NBA. That should be from finishing consistently from the rim, but an accurate shot would at least be something. Otherwise a guy like Nesmith could come in and completely remove Walker from the future rotation.

Thanks for the stats, really interesting stuff. The eye test for sure backs it up; I think Keldon has the potential to become that go-to scorer, he's a walking bucket. But it's his defensive upside that has me the most intrigued... He played some great defense on Westbrook, which is quite the matchup especially for a rookie. Definitely the guy that's shown the most potential (and ability to reach it) on our team. Agree that Lonnie was underwhelming... I think he's gonna come back next year a lot better though. He knows he fucked up, and the things he has to work on were really evident in the bubble, much more so than in the regular season. From all accounts, Lonnie has some good work ethic, so I'm expecting him to work on his finishing and shooting game full-time in the off-season. His body's ready, he's bulked up plenty, now he needs the finishing touches.

I have to say, the bubble opportunity was great for the Spurs. It gave everyone a much clearer picture of where the team is at, and what they can do, and what they should do moving forward. If the season had just been cancelled, we might have been looking at a much more different (and bleaker) outlook for next season and beyond.

[TD 21]

Have people talked about this?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2019.html

So even though he barely played, Johnson was 13th among rookies in win-shares. KJ played in 17 games. The only player above him on the list that played fewer than 43 games is Zion. In terms of WS/48, Johnson finished the season at second. It was a similar thing with BPM (fifth) and VORP (seventh). Literally the only rookie you can say was better across the board was Clarke (#WillNeverBeOkay). It's hard to tell if the bubble helped or hurt his numbers. I don't mean if his stats are higher because of the last eight games -- that's obvious. But whether he would have been able to reach and sustain his impact over the course of a regular season.

Johnson's stats stack up well with the rest of the team. The aggregate stats still have him as a top-10 player on the club, and the rate stats have him as a top five. We'll see how he progresses in what will hopefully be a normal season next year. Certainly though, he's the most promising player currently on the roster. I'm still a huge Walker fan, but he had a bad year, with the bubble not helping his stats at all. He needs to come back with a reliable way to score in the NBA. That should be from finishing consistently from the rim, but an accurate shot would at least be something. Otherwise a guy like Nesmith could come in and completely remove Walker from the future rotation.

I noticed it. Few games before the bubble, didn't really pay it no mind. Few games into the bubble, thought it was interesting, nothing more. But the sample size, while still small, is just enough now to at least be notable. Obviously doesn't mean he's destined for stardom (still too early to make any definitive declarations), but it's definitely worth keeping an eye on.

As much as the perception is superstardom and stardom is a process (obviously true 99% of the time) there are usually early signs that catch all metrics bare out.

[Obi Juan Kenobi]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1301539569050046466

Looking good KJ!!!

This guy is making me forget about Nephew more and more everyday...

[R. DeMurre]

KJ got meaningful minutes in the last 12 games the Spurs played. His total includes 4 games in March and 8 in the restart.
If you take the last 12 games of each of these players, this is the +/- you get:


Keldon: +63
White: +56
Walker: +10

Forbes: -53
Belinelli: -12

One reason to feel optimistic about next season.


https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/whitede01/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/j/johnske04/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/f/forbebr01/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/belinma01/gamelog/2020
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/w/walkelo01/gamelog/2020


Have people talked about this?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/draft/NBA_2019.html

So even though he barely played, Johnson was 13th among rookies in win-shares. KJ played in 17 games. The only player above him on the list that played fewer than 43 games is Zion. In terms of WS/48, Johnson finished the season at second. It was a similar thing with BPM (fifth) and VORP (seventh). Literally the only rookie you can say was better across the board was Clarke (#WillNeverBeOkay). It's hard to tell if the bubble helped or hurt his numbers. I don't mean if his stats are higher because of the last eight games -- that's obvious. But whether he would have been able to reach and sustain his impact over the course of a regular season.

Johnson's stats stack up well with the rest of the team. The aggregate stats still have him as a top-10 player on the club, and the rate stats have him as a top five. We'll see how he progresses in what will hopefully be a normal season next year. Certainly though, he's the most promising player currently on the roster. I'm still a huge Walker fan, but he had a bad year, with the bubble not helping his stats at all. He needs to come back with a reliable way to score in the NBA. That should be from finishing consistently from the rim, but an accurate shot would at least be something.


Thanks for the stats, really interesting stuff. The eye test for sure backs it up; I think Keldon has the potential to become that go-to scorer, he's a walking bucket. But it's his defensive upside that has me the most intrigued... He played some great defense on Westbrook, which is quite the matchup especially for a rookie. Definitely the guy that's shown the most potential (and ability to reach it) on our team. Agree that Lonnie was underwhelming... I think he's gonna come back next year a lot better though. He knows he fucked up, and the things he has to work on were really evident in the bubble, much more so than in the regular season. From all accounts, Lonnie has some good work ethic, so I'm expecting him to work on his finishing and shooting game full-time in the off-season. His body's ready, he's bulked up plenty, now he needs the finishing touches.

I have to say, the bubble opportunity was great for the Spurs. It gave everyone a much clearer picture of where the team is at, and what they can do, and what they should do moving forward. If the season had just been cancelled, we might have been looking at a much more different (and bleaker) outlook for next season and beyond.


I noticed it. Few games before the bubble, didn't really pay it no mind. Few games into the bubble, thought it was interesting, nothing more. But the sample size, while still small, is just enough now to at least be notable. Obviously doesn't mean he's destined for stardom (still too early to make any definitive declarations), but it's definitely worth keeping an eye on.

As much as the perception is superstardom and stardom is a process (obviously true 99% of the time) there are usually early signs that catch all metrics bare out.


If the Spurs do nothing next year but give Forbes's minutes to Keldon, I think they're at least a .500 team. If Lonnie can improve his BPM to even a hair over zero (which would be an improvement over his negative BPM of the last two seasons), they're fighting for a playoff spot.

[Ocotillo]

So Keldon got right back in the gym working on his game. Where's Luka, getting some new ink?

[Sugus]

If the Spurs do nothing next year but give Forbes's minutes to Keldon, I think they're at least a .500 team. If Lonnie can improve his BPM to even a hair over zero (which would be an improvement over his negative BPM of the last two seasons), they're fighting for a playoff spot.

Hmm, I think it's not going to be as simple as just giving Keldon's minutes to Forbes and just hoping everything works out. With LMA not playing in the bubble, we've kind of forgotten how bad a fit he and DD are, especially in terms of spacing - the Spurs were constantly getting zoned by opposing teams and being dared to shoot from outside, and with our two main ball handlers (DD and Dejounte, who I expect will still be trying to fit himself into the "PG" mold next season) not being threats from deep, especially on the pull-up, I could see the Spurs struggling. Keldon would have to have a massive jump in both his efficiency and APG of threes in order to supplement this deficiency; while he has shown his form is good and he can be trusted to make catch-and-shoot 3's, I don't think he's quite ready yet to be that player the Spurs would need. Moreover, I think it'd reflect poorly on the FO to just try and trot out basically the same team, same stars, that got whopped out of the Playoffs last season while being in "win-now mode".

I'm expecting, and praying for, some more changes to the roster. It just isn't built for the modern NBA and has a number of deficiencies that can't just be hoped to be plugged up by our young players breaking out. If the plan to get back into fighting for a PO spot is just banking on the development of your young guys alone... It's gonna be a rough ride. To be honest though, even though I'd like the FO to change the roster, I'd still like them to tank out next season, so I don't really care if they bring back the same team and it predictably backfires.


So Keldon got right back in the gym working on his game. Where's Luka, getting some new ink?

:lol I laughed at this, but the reality is that not every player is as vocal or outspoken on his workouts and effort on social media as the rest. I don't remember many videos of Nephew locked in the gym, working on his game... Yet he obviously was putting in the work in the offseasons. And the opposite of that is also true - we've all seen the plentiful videos of DJ working out, and where has that taken him? Not very far. So I'm cool with Luka being quiet about his offseason - as long as the improvements are there come training camp, of course.

[Seventyniner]

just giving Keldon's minutes to Forbes

I know you didn't actually mean this but I still :vomit: :vomit: :vomit: when I read it.

[Ocotillo]

:lol I laughed at this, but the reality is that not every player is as vocal or outspoken on his workouts and effort on social media as the rest. I don't remember many videos of Nephew locked in the gym, working on his game... Yet he obviously was putting in the work in the offseasons. And the opposite of that is also true - we've all seen the plentiful videos of DJ working out, and where has that taken him? Not very far. So I'm cool with Luka being quiet about his offseason - as long as the improvements are there come training camp, of course.

Yeah, I don't really know and it was more of a tongue in cheek shot based upon their reputations. I hope Luka is putting in the work.

[Seventyniner]

:lol I laughed at this, but the reality is that not every player is as vocal or outspoken on his workouts and effort on social media as the rest. I don't remember many videos of Nephew locked in the gym, working on his game... Yet he obviously was putting in the work in the offseasons. And the opposite of that is also true - we've all seen the plentiful videos of DJ working out, and where has that taken him? Not very far. So I'm cool with Luka being quiet about his offseason - as long as the improvements are there come training camp, of course.

Well said. Another example: Duncan would have never posted workout videos even if social media had been as popular in his heyday as it is now, and his work ethic was unimpeachable.

Murray's work ethic is fine, even if he likes to put it on display. I'd blame his relative lack of progress on Pop either trying to make Murray something he isn't or allowing him to beat his head against the wall trying.

[Sugus]

I know you didn't actually mean this but I still :vomit: :vomit: :vomit: when I read it.

:pop: That's exactly what I meant young man, I firmly believe the Spurs would be in the playoffs right now had my boy Bryn gotten a fair chance to show off his talents and Curry level shooting over that reckless rookie Keldon, gotta send him to Austin next season so he doesn't screw up my plans again... :pop:

[Sugus]

Well said. Another example: Duncan would have never posted workout videos even if social media had been as popular in his heyday as it is now, and his work ethic was unimpeachable.

Murray's work ethic is fine, even if he likes to put it on display. I'd blame his relative lack of progress on Pop either trying to make Murray something he isn't or allowing him to beat his head against the wall trying.

Agreed, I'm just picking on DJ here since he's so "flashy" about his off-season workouts, but most players in this modern age do that. It's just brand building at some point, everyone knows there's a lot of money to be made through an IG persona and endorsements, and younger fans who'll stan you and buy your merch. Though to be honest, I'm not nearly as high on DJ as I was a year or two ago; at this point, I'm kind of hoping a team desperate for a defense-first "PG" makes an offer to Pop that he can't refuse, and he becomes another team's problem. I just don't ever see him developing an IQ that makes him a true positive player, and someone who can close out games - and you just know his ego wouldn't take well to riding the pine in those situations.

[dbestpro]

Local media Kens News4 ect have done packages on Tim Duncans workouts and his big man camp. Different era and different personalities.
https://youtu.be/7Lat-hexoFUhttps://4.bp.blogspot.com/-PZuDPp2TOyk/UiD762kZ7KI/AAAAAAAAGQI/DgGmAt1-c3I/s1600/Screen+Shot+2013-08-31+at+4.02.24+AM.pnghttps://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/457/433/ScreenShot2013-08-21at12.13.08PM_crop_north.png?1377112425&w=3072&h=2048


https://youtu.be/IpExIj7T_PI

Roy Hibbert looks like a beast.

[RC_Drunkford]

He was then went mental or something but Timmy's big man camp got him that Max (or close to it) contract.

Hibberts career went downhill when Paul George fucked his fiance

[pad300]

Hibberts career went downhill when Paul George fucked his fiance

Apparently I missed a story?!? Paul George pulled a TP with Hibbert's fiancee? WTF

[R. DeMurre]

Hmm, I think it's not going to be as simple as just giving Keldon's minutes to Forbes and just hoping everything works out. With LMA not playing in the bubble, we've kind of forgotten how bad a fit he and DD are, especially in terms of spacing - the Spurs were constantly getting zoned by opposing teams and being dared to shoot from outside, and with our two main ball handlers (DD and Dejounte, who I expect will still be trying to fit himself into the "PG" mold next season) not being threats from deep, especially on the pull-up, I could see the Spurs struggling. Keldon would have to have a massive jump in both his efficiency and APG of threes in order to supplement this deficiency; while he has shown his form is good and he can be trusted to make catch-and-shoot 3's, I don't think he's quite ready yet to be that player the Spurs would need. Moreover, I think it'd reflect poorly on the FO to just try and trot out basically the same team, same stars, that got whopped out of the Playoffs last season while being in "win-now mode".

I'm expecting, and praying for, some more changes to the roster. It just isn't built for the modern NBA and has a number of deficiencies that can't just be hoped to be plugged up by our young players breaking out. If the plan to get back into fighting for a PO spot is just banking on the development of your young guys alone... It's gonna be a rough ride. To be honest though, even though I'd like the FO to change the roster, I'd still like them to tank out next season, so I don't really care if they bring back the same team and it predictably backfires.


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I've been advocating all year for a DD trade because I think think it's addition by subtraction. And I don't think it's a case of throwing Keldon in there and hoping for the best. After all, a .500 record isn't exactly a high bar-- it's basically the Nets without KD or Kyrie or next year's Grizzlies. But I take the same view of next season as I did of this one, namely that the Spurs aren't winning a title so the only thing that matters is the development of the young prospects, and roster moves to improve the future. I think the Aldridge experiment was a noble one and did at least yield a 67 win season, but he's 35, so he's not going to be part of a championship scenario in 2022, '23, or '24. Time to move on.

[rankingtear]

I've been advocating all year for a DD trade because I think think it's addition by subtraction. And I don't think it's a case of throwing Keldon in there and hoping for the best. After all, a .500 record isn't exactly a high bar-- it's basically the Nets without KD or Kyrie or next year's Grizzlies. But I take the same view of next season as I did of this one, namely that the Spurs aren't winning a title so the only thing that matters is the development of the young prospects, and roster moves to improve the future. I think the Aldridge experiment was a noble one and did at least yield a 67 win season, but he's 35, so he's not going to be part of a championship scenario in 2022, '23, or '24. Time to move on.

Development is not as simple as playing someone 30 mins a night. If that were that easy then bottom feeders like Sacramento, Knicks and Suns wouldn't be bust factories. These playing veterans buys these prospects time. They can come in with simplified games that they can succeed in early on. This gives them confidence and allows them to develop other parts of their game without pressure of producing.

When you lose your star veterans you also lose part of your player development which i think outweighs the playing time increase. Specially now with Derozan stating he's mentoring Keldon.

[R. DeMurre]

Development is not as simple as playing someone 30 mins a night. If that were that easy then bottom feeders like Sacramento, Knicks and Suns wouldn't be bust factories. These playing veterans buys these prospects time. They can come in with simplified games that they can succeed in early on. This gives them confidence and allows them to develop other parts of their game without pressure of producing.

When you lose your star veterans you also lose part of your player development which i think outweighs the playing time increase. Specially now with Derozan stating he's mentoring Keldon.

Development is not as simple as having a guy that doesn't shoot threes, isn't a good defender, and has had mediocre advanced stats for a decade "mentor" a young player.

[rankingtear]

Development is not as simple as having a guy that doesn't shoot threes, isn't a good defender, and has had mediocre advanced stats for a decade "mentor" a young player.

You forgot Bryn max contract, Pop is senile, FO sucks, trade Dejounte for second round pick.

[RC_Drunkford]

Apparently I missed a story?!? Paul George pulled a TP with Hibbert's fiancee? WTF

yup. Why do you think the Pacers traded him and PG stayed?




“Do you remember when Lance Stephenson and Evan Turner got into that fight? It was all over Roy Hibbert and Paul George. Lance has been getting all the blame for the Pacers off nights and during that day at practice Lance says ‘y’all need to look at Roy’s ass, he’s been off ever since he found out PG was fucking his bitch’. That’s when Evan got mad at him for exposing that in front of everybody and that sparked the fight. Roy just walked away without saying anything but ever since then it’s been a bigger downfall in his performance on the court. I don’t know for sure, but that might also be the connection to PG’s house getting broken into because all of a sudden now he doesn’t want investigators involved. Supposedly PG and Hibbert’s wife have been carrying on through instagram for a while before they ended up having sex. She felt guilty and told Hibbert and that’s how he found out originally. It’s bad because PG and Hibbert were really friends."

https://balleralert.com/profiles/blogs/baller-mail-is-paul-george-sleeping-with-teammate-roy-hibberts-wife/

[Seventyniner]

Development is not as simple as having a guy that doesn't shoot threes, isn't a good defender, and has had mediocre advanced stats for a decade "mentor" a young player.

A good mentor doesn't have to be a good player. There is also much more to mentoring than specific on-court skills.

[R. DeMurre]

A good mentor doesn't have to be a good player. There is also much more to mentoring than specific on-court skills.

I agree completely. Tim Duncan could be a good mentor for Keldon. So could Becky Hammond, and Patty Mills. I just don't think DDR is the best choice. His on court body language is often the worst on the team, and his style of play isn't what a young player needs to emulate. Just my opinion.

[Dejounte]

I agree completely. Tim Duncan could be a good mentor for Keldon. So could Becky Hammond, and Patty Mills. I just don't think DDR is the best choice. His on court body language is often the worst on the team, and his style of play isn't what a young player needs to emulate. Just my opinion.

If there's anything DeMar should transfer to Keldon, it's footwork. That is what one of DeMar's star qualities.

[Seventyniner]

I agree completely. Tim Duncan could be a good mentor for Keldon. So could Becky Hammond, and Patty Mills. I just don't think DDR is the best choice. His on court body language is often the worst on the team, and his style of play isn't what a young player needs to emulate. Just my opinion.

That's fair. I was thinking more vet-to-young'un off-court stuff like preparation, how to handle long road trips, breaking down film, that kind of thing. Some of things are better done player-to-player rather than coach-to-player.

I certainly don't want Keldon emulating all parts of DeRozan's game either.

[R. DeMurre]

If there's anything DeMar should transfer to Keldon, it's footwork. That is what one of DeMar's star qualities.
True, but he could also watch video of Kevin McHale, Clyde Frazier, T mac, Manu, MJ, or Hakeem too.

[RC_Drunkford]

If there's anything DeMar should transfer to Keldon, it's footwork. That is what one of DeMar's star qualities.

that 100%. People here hate DeMar but when it comes to scoring 2s he's elite. His arsenal of moves is vicious and he has better footwork than most big men. It's just that he's not shooting 3s

[R. DeMurre]

that 100%. People here hate DeMar but when it comes to scoring 2s he's elite. His arsenal of moves is vicious and he has better footwork than most big men. It's just that he's not shooting 3s

It's much more than that. His on court/off court numbers are among the worst on the entire team. The team gains about 1 pt per 100 possessions when he's the floor, but gives up about 6 points more defensively. His 2Pt FG% is good, but it's not so elite as to justify his not shooting threes. This season, players like Gordon Hayward, Joe Harris, Seth Curry, Donte DiVencenzo, & TJ Warren had better 2pt%s, and they all also shot the three, giving them all better adjusted FG%s than DeRozan. Among SFs, he ranks 51st in the league in RPM, behind guys like Cedi Osman and Andrew Wiggins. If you classify him as a PF, he'd rank 49th. If you classify him as a SG, he'd rank 77th, behind Grayson Allen and.... wait for it..... Bryn Forbes. Anyway you look at it, DeRozan is making superstar money but producing like a very average player. And none of this is new. These issues of net production have plagued him for a decade, and are much worse in the playoffs.


http://www.82games.com/1920/19SAS9.HTM
https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/two-point-field-goal-percentage
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/position/5

[NK123]

The best comparison to Keldon Johnson is Bonzi Wells.
A Rugged 2 that could play the 3, the small ball 4 and win games for a team with certain mismatches.

[RC_Drunkford]

It's much more than that. His on court/off court numbers are among the worst on the entire team. The team gains about 1 pt per 100 possessions when he's the floor, but gives up about 6 points more defensively. His 2Pt FG% is good, but it's not so elite as to justify his not shooting threes. This season, players like Gordon Hayward, Joe Harris, Seth Curry, Donte DiVencenzo, & TJ Warren had better 2pt%s, and they all also shot the three, giving them all better adjusted FG%s than DeRozan. Among SFs, he ranks 51st in the league in RPM, behind guys like Cedi Osman and Andrew Wiggins. If you classify him as a PF, he'd rank 49th. If you classify him as a SG, he'd rank 77th, behind Grayson Allen and.... wait for it..... Bryn Forbes. Anyway you look at it, DeRozan is making superstar money but producing like a very average player. And none of this is new. These issues of net production have plagued him for a decade, and are much worse in the playoffs.

http://www.82games.com/1920/19SAS9.HTM
https://www.teamrankings.com/nba/player-stat/two-point-field-goal-percentage
http://www.espn.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/position/5

You do realize that I wasn't talking about that AT ALL? Everybody knows DeMar is a net negative which always makes people question if the team is better off without him. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about his 1 on 1 skills.

[R. DeMurre]

that 100%. People here hate DeMar but when it comes to scoring 2s he's elite. His arsenal of moves is vicious and he has better footwork than most big men. It's just that he's not shooting 3s


You do realize that I wasn't talking about that AT ALL? Everybody knows DeMar is a net negative which always makes people question if the team is better off without him. I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about his 1 on 1 skills.

I understand, but you implied earlier that the "hate" (which I don't feel for him at all) was just because he wasn't shooting threes.

[look_at_g_shred]

The best comparison to Keldon Johnson is Bonzi Wells.
A Rugged 2 that could play the 3, the small ball 4 and win games for a team with certain mismatches.
During the bubble games, Elliott was comparing him to an elder player, I can't remember but I do know that sean knows his stuff.

[Sugus]

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/fsm-names-colin-bryant-president-basketball-operations-agent-for-spurs-keldon-johnson

Interview to Keldon's agent, has some tidbits on Keldon and how he's been approaching the off-season. Gotta love his work ethic.


"The goal for him is to continue to grow both on and off the court and just to get better. To maximize his potential both on and off the court. We're just excited about it."

And this includes seeing Johnson reach his potential on the court.

"He is an extremely hard worker and he just wants to get better and better every day. You almost have to pull him out the gym," Bryant said. "He played really well in the NBA's bubble, but he's not satisfied. He really believes that there's another level that he's trying to get to and he's working his butt off right now to get there.

"San Antonio has a very special player in Keldon and I'm honored to represent him as well."

[BackHome]

His agent is seeing big dollars next contract. Lol. :hungry:

[Seventyniner]

His agent is seeing big dollars next contract. Lol. :hungry:

If Keldon earns them that's fine by me. Stars are worth paying.

[timvp]

Keldon seems to have already adopted San Antonio as his home. Signed with a local agency (his old agent obviously screwed up his draft prep, so it was smart to walk away), working out locally and getting involved in the community. That might be record time for a young player.


prayingdog.jpg @ Keldon's future being as bright as it appeared to be after watching him in the bubble.

[daslicer]

When you compare Tim to Dave when it comes to being part of and intermingling with the community, it was night and DAVE. Dave is the most important Spur for first signing with the team when he could have been a free agent and how he embraced the community and it embraced him back. A 7 foot Captain America in Basketball shoes was perfect for Military City.

Tim's on-court achievements have overshadowed Mr. Robinson, and most of the posers that participate in this community sadly don't have any idea about Dave. It was his neighborhood before Tim's. Despite being the greatest Spur Tim, just wasn't that type of guy; he was so inaccessible. Appreciated, revered, and liked, but privacy was his #1 priority. Spurs fans allowed him that. That is not to say that Tony and Tim weren't accessible, they were, but they are France and Argentina first and foremost. Mute cancer was a pipe dream I don't even know if he talks to his"TEAM"; show me that game tape, tbh. The Spurs image/brand suffered nationally as a consequence. (even has it flourished internationally because of Tony and Manu)


Keldon has to be the next most important Spur after Tim because he can be like Dave in his way for his own time; if he not, then this franchise is gone sooner than later. The Spurs Brand has to change and grow, and he can be the point man leading the way in doing so.


Just the way I see things after following this team since watching them loose back to back Western conference Finals 1982-1983 postseasons to the lakers. It was what made me follow the team(and that they were in San Antonio and I'm from there), but David Robinson is the guy for me who made me love the team.

Ah yes the new doom and gloom in here since the spurs are no longer contenders we'll gets posts about the team moving when they miss the playoffs.

[spurspl]

Keldon seems to have already adopted San Antonio as his home. Signed with a local agency (his old agent obviously screwed up his draft prep, so it was smart to walk away), working out locally and getting involved in the community. That might be record time for a young player.


prayingdog.jpg @ Keldon's future being as bright as it appeared to be after watching him in the bubble.

hope spurs management wont screw this up and build a solid team including him. Otherwise if he becomes better and better, sooner or later will be gone.

[Dejounte]

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/look-spurs-keldon-johnson-takes-time-to-snap-photos-with-lanier-hs-staff

Good guy Keldon...

[EasyMoney]

Keldon has got next. Thanks, Toronto.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/CarolinaTeague_/status/1305537515483430917

[Dejounte]

CEGQSCAnFCc

Said it from the start - Hardenesque, baby.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/CarolinaTeague_/status/1306249932861472769?s=19

Keldon is getting beefy.

[talkspurs]

He looks taller then 6'6" in those pictures.

[Sugus]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EiC7YsdWsAAz6dq?format=jpg&name=large
Tune in Sundy yall

My boy looking JACKED. The future for sure. Hope the rest of our youngings are also putting in the work... Does anyone have any other info about that mini-camp? Will it be televised?

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1306683426012106752?s=19

This Jeff guy sounds like he posts on SpursTalk.... Which one of you is it?

[The Truth #6]

He looks taller then 6'6" in those pictures.

Short neck. And/or she is like 5’1”.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i think he needs to be in starting line up or just the green light to chuck...

[Dejounte]

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Hsu5Ef0OMfry0TAowNcpy?si=13GcbzCvSG-g5OXNE3tX9w

Almost forgot about this...

I'm 15 minutes in...

Highlights so far: saying MJ, Pippen, Chris Paul were his favorite players. Says Pop looks out for every player on the team. Says might expand his social media presence to reach out to more fans. Says he knows how to cook.

[Dejounte]

NBA teams have been trying to draft the next MJ for the longest time

Kobe came close, copying every move MJ had and his work ethic but failed to gain the same efficiency

Kawhi came close, with nearly the same physical measurements such as hand size and possibly wingspan, and he copied the signature fadeaway.... But he lacks the athleticism, the fire, and mental fortitude MJ had

Could Keldon be the next MJ in terms of mental make-up? MJ was a clear leader because of how hard he went at everything he wanted to try. Keldon is clearly a competitive animal.... He's got the charisma MJ had, none of that awkward shit from Kawhi. What if it was the burning desire to be the best, and will to win is what made MJ separate from the rest? What if Keldon has that?


Time will tell.

https://i.gifer.com/YwY3.gif

[The Truth #6]

Jordan was pathological in his desire to win. And it makes him much less likable now that he isn’t playing. As for Keldon, I would prefer the competitiveness of Ginobili instead.

[The Truth #6]

I don’t wanna go out on a limb here, but I think we might be going a little too fast with the analogies perhaps? Jordan? Kobe? I’ll be happy if Keldon averages more than 25 minutes next season.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/e35/s1080x1080/119713336_2509259115963128_2399088545789351450_n.j pg?_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=108&_nc_ohc=UbMO-NMfL4gAX-Z6wWZ&_nc_tp=15&oh=0af0291d1a8079abcb8c602d944b60a9&oe=5F91B952





Hispanic girls are so nice.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

I like Keldon a lot but I’m afraid some folks are going to be in for a huge let down once the new season starts. I think he is going to be a good player but I can’t say at this moment if he is going to be what some folks are saying he is going to be on this website.

hopefully the folks on here are right though. Lord knows we need a franchise player

[Dejounte]

I like Keldon a lot but I’m afraid some folks are going to be in for a huge let down once the new season starts. I think he is going to be a good player but I can’t say at this moment if he is going to be what some folks are saying he is going to be on this website.

hopefully the folks on here are right though. Lord knows we need a franchise player

Eye test, my friend. Just wait for it...

People like to downplay talent when it's right in front of them because all they see is a draft position (#29 in the case of Keldon).

Just like how people have a mindset of if a player is consistently projected top 10 by amateur scouts (who are wrong 90% of the time), that theyre for sure to be good... and people become flabbergasted if they drop and we don't select them.

Like people who see Lonzo or Killian and say "that's an all-star in the making!" because they're riding the wave that is called "mob mentality".

[Seventyniner]

Eye test, my friend. Just wait for it...

People like to downplay talent when it's right in front of them because all they see is a draft position (#29 in the case of Keldon).

Just like how people have a mindset of if a player is consistently projected top 10 by amateur scouts (who are wrong 90% of the time), that theyre for sure to be good... and people become flabbergasted if they drop and we don't select them.

Like people who see Lonzo or Killian and say "that's an all-star in the making!" because they're riding the wave that is called "mob mentality".

Another aspect of this is people who want to trade for a player that had been drafted high, using the reasoning "if he was drafted that high, he must be good and his current team is just misusing him". It is quite possible, and probable in most cases, that the player just isn't as good as his draft position would indicate.

[Dejounte]

Another aspect of this is people who want to trade for a player that had been drafted high, using the reasoning "if he was drafted that high, he must be good and his current team is just misusing him". It is quite possible, and probable in most cases, that the player just isn't as good as his draft position would indicate.

Yes. The reality is that in most drafts, only 30% of the stars come from the top 10. The rest slip past.

Look, I'm not saying it's for certain Keldon's going to make it as a star. I'm saying it's looking pretty damn likely because of the tools he has, most notably his mental make-up. I'll roll with Keldon and gamble on what he has shown vs the other people in his draft class.

[Dejounte]

A lot of Keldon doubters in this thread will eat crow in about one year. You heard it from here first. I'm one of the first to believe he will be our first star from this group.

Just a reminder from the first page ^ before he exploded in the bubble and gained more fans.

[pad300]

FFS, let the kid be Keldon!

[spurspl]

pls stop with this comparision with MJ and kobe. That's hilarious. Im really impressed how spurs fans overvalue their players. Same was with murray (all star, great wingspan, future blah blah). keldon showed some flashes and great work ethic (imo the best spurs player now) but thats not a reason to compare him to MJ. Calm down boyz.

[Dejounte]

It's hilarious right now, but you'll see...

It's the same reason DeMar said he was "lucky" to be able to play with Keldon.

A lot of work ahead, but no problem with calling it like I see it.

Pop, the GOAT, never praised White like he did Keldon. The best compliment he gave White was that he was "even keeled".

Same for Murray lmao. I dont remember one positive thing from Pop about Murray.

[The Truth #6]

I’m excited about Keldon, in part because the team has lots of players I’m much less excited about. Let’s give it time, though. Putting ridiculous expectations on him is not going to help him improve.

[Dejounte]

I’m excited about Keldon, in part because the team has lots of players I’m much less excited about. Let’s give it time, though. Putting ridiculous expectations on him is not going to help him improve.

He's not reading this forum, man. Haha

[The Truth #6]

He's not reading this forum, man. Haha

Hopefully not and he’s in the gym. Don’t get me wrong, I think realistically, because of his temperament, he has a much higher chance of success than Lonnie or Dejounte. Dejounte is a little emo and Lonnie, it seems, is processing his trauma, so he needs to be put on a different timeline as far as expectations.

[daslicer]

Worst case scenario this guy will be a great role player. Best case scenario he will be a star.

[Sugus]

While the comparisons to MJ and Kobe are a little jumping-the-gun, I also think Keldon is poised to be a star in this league. He's got all the tools to be an excellent two-way player and volume scorer, and it's not like he "has to put it together" like so many other players - he's already there, both physically and mentally. If he works on his volume shooting from 3, he can be our Tatum-lite. I think he'll be the first player out of our young core who the Spurs will have to look at how to "complement" and build around him.

I still have hopes for Lonnie, too. Deadly combo at the 2-3 if both pan out. Gotta get rid of Murray though, at least in the starting lineup... Hopefully next season, either one emerges as the "truest" SG due to sheer outplaying the other one. With Dejounte's attitude, expectations due to having already started for two seasons, and his agency, I don't see him taking an arbitrary "demotion" well.

[DAF86]

Folks comparing Keldon to MJ, Kobe and Kawhi in here. Hold your horses sons. :lol

[daslicer]

Folks comparing Keldon to MJ, Kobe and Kawhi in here. Hold your horses sons. :lol

Agreed my expectation right now is for him to be a good role player.

[Dejounte]

I would rather be bold and call it early and look like a genius later. :)

I did call Kawhi a would-be star during his rookie year. I made a call during White's rookie year that he was a Manu-lite, and people are starting to see that now.

I agree the MJ, Kobe comparisons are a reach. Only reason they were brought up was because of the recent interview when he mentioned those were his favorites (and because the offseason is so fucking boring).

My favorite comparison from the beginning has always been James Harden (strictly offense). Their body language and moves are very similar. Before anybody gets carried away and freaks out, I'm not talking about their production. Just body language.

Time will tell.

[Dejounte]

CDsmjMGHQIN

More and more of these videos are going to pop out.

It was after the first or second summer league game that I made the Harden comp (on offense).

Call me the body language expert. :hat

[The Truth #6]

Well. Let’s hope you’re right. I would be happy if he is Mario Elie 2.0.

[talkspurs]

He and DJm are the two players I am looking fmost forward to next year. I think people will be disappointed in Walker.

[The Truth #6]

I think Walker, for the first time, is having to face his trauma head on. That would be overwhelming for anyone. I’m giving him more time.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/s640x640/117108073_577808976435164_5640943133199658735_n.jp g?_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=108&_nc_ohc=wshvjoTUiE8AX9sNkR3&oh=b0aadbd7a67bbb4873dd86ba4371385d&oe=5F91F114

CFSpWEMpvb6



Its not just people on this website, Kevin Durant is a Fan and has been from the Jump, Also the Coach, the Organization.... This is why San Antonio Can't have nice things doinks on this Message board and dudes like you.



Before I respond, best believe I hope he turns out to be a star player. I believed that since watching him live and in person at Cedar Park that he is going to be a good NBA pro.

but.........

a lot of players usually aren’t the best at judging talent. Lol. Kevin Durant was the same guy who downplayed Kawhi Leonard when he was still ascending. A lot of these players let relationship biased get in the way of evaluating talent. Lol.

I like Keldon and I think he is going to be a good pro but I think everyone should pump the brakes on the star talk so soon. Let the young man actually play a good 20 total NBA games 1st.

[BackHome]

I think Walker, for the first time, is having to face his trauma head on. That would be overwhelming for anyone. I’m giving him more time.

Yeah that’s got to be some heavy shit to deal with I hope he is getting proper support in dealing with it and continues therapy for awhile.

[Sugus]

Locked On Spurs: Keldon Johnson discusses his NBA path, Spurs youth, 'Big 3' era & more

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/locked-on-spurs-keldon-johnson-discusses-his-nba-path-spurs-youth-big-3-era-and-more

Some timestamps:
6:55- talking to his younger self
19:50- getting the NBA
23:40- training camp, getting work from vets
34:28- following the big 3 era

New interview on Keldon just dropped by JeffG. Sounds promising, I'll catch it after work.

[look_at_g_shred]

I would rather be bold and call it early and look like a genius later. :)

I did call Kawhi a would-be star during his rookie year. I made a call during White's rookie year that he was a Manu-lite, and people are starting to see that now.

I agree the MJ, Kobe comparisons are a reach. Only reason they were brought up was because of the recent interview when he mentioned those were his favorites (and because the offseason is so fucking boring).

My favorite comparison from the beginning has always been James Harden (strictly offense). Their body language and moves are very similar. Before anybody gets carried away and freaks out, I'm not talking about their production. Just body language.

Time will tell.
I hope not. Harden's body language when things aren't going well is terrible. My comp for him has always been westbrook. It's uncanny the similarities they have. He's westbrook with a better jumper, less athleticism, and better BBIQ/teammate.

[Dejounte]

Maybe body language is the wrong term..
If this was Tekken and Keldon was Mokujin and I watch him and it reminds me of Paul (Harden) because of his moveset.

For example, Keldon keeps his arms up when he drives to draw contact, just like Harden.

Is his back straight when he runs? How does he bump other players down low and how does his body look when he does it?

Those are the things.

Maybe body language was the wrong word.

I don't see Westbrook at all. Especially the form and how they drive to the rim. Strange comp. Maybe they both yell and that's why?
look_at_g_shred

[Dejounte]

Locked On Spurs: Keldon Johnson discusses his NBA path, Spurs youth, 'Big 3' era & more

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/locked-on-spurs-keldon-johnson-discusses-his-nba-path-spurs-youth-big-3-era-and-more

Some timestamps:
6:55- talking to his younger self
19:50- getting the NBA
23:40- training camp, getting work from vets
34:28- following the big 3 era

New interview on Keldon just dropped by JeffG. Sounds promising, I'll catch it after work.

Great find thank you

[ace3g]

CFdktKpnUUE

[exstatic]

Honestly? If he turns out to be a slightly better version of Sean, with maybe a couple of ASG appearances, it’s a huge win at 29.

[tbdog]

Do you think he is a day one starter in 2021?

[exstatic]

Do you think he is a day one starter in 2021?

I’d have to see the roster. Is LaMarcus still here? Is DeRozan?

[tbdog]

I’d have to see the roster. Is LaMarcus still here? Is DeRozan?

Would it matter?

[exstatic]

Would it matter?

Oh, sure. If Pop has the vets, they get preference. If DD is here, he’ll almost certainly start at the 3 like he has for the past two seasons. I interpreted your question as referring to Pop, since he sets the lineup card.

[Dejounte]

Truck and Jeep Guy who Hunts and wants to be out in the community.
God Loves the San Antonio Spurs. Exact Opposite of Mute Canter.
Oh, BTW The Top of the Roof of that Jeep is 76" off the Ground, now my Eye test doesn't see a Marfan Riddle bad shooting thinner and say "top 10 pic" but is does tell me that seventy six inches is
6 foot 4 putting Keldon EASILY in the 6'6" plus range. JACKED TO BOOT!!! Fucking 2K spergs

Tyler Herro looks tall on the court and borderline looks like a player with SF size and Keldon has an inch over him. I'd say Keldon is probably 6'7" right now.

[exstatic]

Truck and Jeep Guy who Hunts and wants to be out in the community.
God Loves the San Antonio Spurs. Exact Opposite of Mute Canter.
Oh, BTW The Top of the Roof of that Jeep is 76" off the Ground, now my Eye test doesn't see a Marfan Riddle bad shooting thinner and say "top 10 pic" but is does tell me that seventy six inches is
6 foot 4 putting Keldon EASILY in the 6'6" plus range. JACKED TO BOOT!!! Fucking 2K spergs

Oh, look. A young player with a brand and a logo that DOESNT look like a second graders thanksgiving turkey cutout.

[kobyz]

He reminds me Rip Hamilton

[Dejounte]

CFpkXfzpwY8

-Keldon with a new hairstyle
-who are the other kids in this video??

[talkspurs]

I think I saw Metu and Eubanks. I am guessing this was from the mini camp.

[Dejounte]

I think I saw Metu and Eubanks. I am guessing this was from the mini camp.

Naw, no Metu in the video.

[talkspurs]

Naw, no Metu in the video.

He is in there several times I am pretty sure.

[Dejounte]

He is in there several times I am pretty sure.

Metu has a completely different face, dude. Lol

[spurspl]

russel westbrook hairstyle

[ace3g]

CFp65yqlDGn

[talkspurs]

Whose between Keldon and drew?

[rankingtear]

Jordan Bone?, Damian Jones

[Dejounte]

It could just be a Spurs staffer

[Sugus]

CFpkXfzpwY8

-Keldon with a new hairstyle
-who are the other kids in this video??

Keldon's shot is absolute money... Of course this is an edited clip, can't draw too much from it (is there no other film on this mini-camp?), but it's good to see he's incorporating the pull-up and side-step 3 into his game. Those are star shots if he can pull them off consistently... High hopes for him.

But I liked his former hairstyle better, tbh

[RC_Drunkford]

I been saying the kid has star potential. His offensive game is already polished, he has to put in work on stepbacks, turnaround Js, off the dribble pull-ups, etc. things that star players do

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1310672348647952385?s=19

This guy is becoming ripped.

[talkspurs]

So IG Hooper, Derrick White and no other spurs could make it down from I 10 or off of NW Military Highway to join Keldon for the Camp that day?

So after seeing the picture posted I dont think this was the mini camp as i think it was done at lanier HS. He has been working out there during the off season. That being said the way Keldon is I doubt he would turn them down if they showed and probably asked them.

[ace3g]

https://scontent-mia3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/fr/e15/p1080x1080/120204977_1050159862120782_2741289409233879304_n.j pg?_nc_ht=scontent-mia3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=106&_nc_ohc=aH3JWI_oX2EAX-2dzN7&oh=15dedf781742b3487eb9a55ff82fcd7f&oe=5F9C7A29

[kobyz]

He's like a smaller Tatum

[Dejounte]

CF5TAQplY6E

Keldon loves this gym

[gambit1990]

He's like a smaller Tatum
interesting comparison.

[gambit1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wx9fDLiEIvA

[Dejounte]

CFp65yqlDGn

The guy between Eubanks and Keldon seems to be really close to Keldon. He's with him here too:CF5Vk1UnL5q

[EasyMoney]

Keldon is going to be an all star.

[XDT76]

The guy between Eubanks and Keldon seems to be really close to Keldon. He's with him here too:CF5Vk1UnL5q

KJ really has a short neck and a small head. All the way up to his shoulder he is level with that guy and then suddenly he is about 2 inch shorter.

[XDT76]

KJ really has a short neck and a small head. All the way up to his shoulder he is level with that guy and then suddenly he is about 2 inch shorter.

[Dejounte]

CGBn62bH3hY

Dog lover Keldon

[Dejounte]

CGENFTGHEMh

[Dejounte]

When an ex-star, DeMar, who has seen it all says this:

"I love him to death. One of my favorite rookies I've ever played with.
He always wants to take on the challenges too! That's what I love. He's going to be pretty good."

People are too reluctant to say it because of disappointment after disappointment, but I think we actually have our first star since Kawhi.

[Dejounte]

CGH-FWXjqo5

[ace3g]

CGK-Tfdn5Yq

[gambit1990]

B3fg8q_lDos

[gambit1990]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlQRgJ6gOB8&feature=youtu.be

[gambit1990]

:birthday:

[ace3g]

CGMPWkYn7ho

CGNELQXnaa2

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1315721396161523713

[Sugus]

Jesus, there's a split second where you can't even tell where the ball went, because he put so much force into the dunk that it goes straight down against him. Insane strength. Though I gotta admit, after so many Lonnie dunks in videos/practice, I'll be waiting until Keldon throws one down mid-game to get excited.

[Sugus]

Hell yeah, get in on those PED's young man. LeBron style. Can we get Dejounte on whatever shit Keldon's been on? :lol

[TDMVPDPOY]

Jesus, there's a split second where you can't even tell where the ball went, because he put so much force into the dunk that it goes straight down against him. Insane strength. Though I gotta admit, after so many Lonnie dunks in videos/practice, I'll be waiting until Keldon throws one down mid-game to get excited.

popabitch has a no dunk policy

[BackHome]

CGXdTBcBnam

With Aric Holdman and their mutual agent looking Yoked. Aric is 6'10."

I love the guy supporting Kawhi nickname.....KY

[ace3g]

From Quinndary's IG story

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElCGPJYWMAAa0_g?format=png&name=small

[Dejounte]

CG0kRphlrP3

(Press the right arrow for the second photo)

They're not standing next to each other and Lonnie could very well be leaning on the rail, but damn... Keldon looks like he towers over Lonnie who is 6'4" (or 6'5"?). We probably already have our SF of the future, boys.

[DavidTheGoliath]

CG0kRphlrP3

(Press the right arrow for the second photo)

They're not standing next to each other and Lonnie could very well be leaning on the rail, but damn... Keldon looks like he towers over Lonnie who is 6'4" (or 6'5"?). We probably already have our SF of the future, boys.

keldon is a bit nearer to the camera so might look a lot bigger tbh

[Dejounte]

keldon is a bit nearer to the camera so might look a lot bigger tbh

True, but check out the guy in the black dress shirt on the left. That's former NBA player, Josh Childress. He's listed at 6'8" on the NBA.com website. He appears to be at the same distance from the camera as Keldon.

[LCM]

Keldon had a growth spurt. Two inches probably.

[ace3g]

CG5aT6MHZ-0

[The Truth #6]

CG5aT6MHZ-0


That’s an amusing image. Does this help his training?

[lefty20]

That’s an amusing image. Does this help his training?

This is how one becomes a sharpshooter, tbh.

[talkspurs]

That’s an amusing image. Does this help his training?

Guessing its a 60lb or so. He is holding back 60 lb while have to concentrate and hit a target. dont think it would hurt him.

[RC_Drunkford]

Keldon Johnson joined FSM’s VP of Human Performance – Robert Castillo – to ensure that the mental side of basketball and his life are in tip-top condition ahead of the new NBA season (https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/spurs-keldon-johnson-is-sharpening-the-mental-side-of-his-game-this-offseason). “Keldon is a sponge,” Castillo said. “He is very curious and asks a lot of questions. He is focused on improving all aspects of his game to include his mental game.” (https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/spurs-keldon-johnson-is-sharpening-the-mental-side-of-his-game-this-offseason) With Johnson’s balanced approach to both the physical and mental side of his game, next season could be a special one for him and the Spurs. “It’s fun to work with a high performer who is just looking to be better and build on his already strong cognitive abilities,” said Castillo. “As a certified Mental Performance Consultant (CMPC), my focus is to help my clients apply mental skills and strategies to help them perform at their best,” Castillo told the Spurs Zone. “A CMPC is focused on helping individuals improve their performance with a focus on the future. With that being said, part of my job is to provide strategies and skills that will improve our clients’ mental and emotional welness.
(https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/spurs-keldon-johnson-is-sharpening-the-mental-side-of-his-game-this-offseason)
(https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/spurs-keldon-johnson-is-sharpening-the-mental-side-of-his-game-this-offseason)

[Seventyniner]

When a "sponge" like Keldon meets an exceptional player development staff like the Spurs have, great things happen.

[The Truth #6]

(https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/spurs-keldon-johnson-is-sharpening-the-mental-side-of-his-game-this-offseason)

Interesting. It looks like Lonnie is a client of this same agency. Hopefully, this Castillo guy helps Lonnie as well. I'm less concerned about Keldon.

[Dejounte]

With Rudy Gay now being one of the elder statesmen on the team, Bethea asked him about which young players have caught his eye.

“I think Keldon Johnson‘s going to be really good,” Gay responded. “He was in the [G] League all year. He played up with us in the bubble and he could be really good.”

https://airalamo.com/2020/11/09/san-antonio-spurs-rudy-gay-future-keldon/

Future star, baby

[SpursDynasty85]

With Rudy Gay now being one of the elder statesmen on the team, Bethea asked him about which young players have caught his eye.

“I think Keldon Johnson‘s going to be really good,” Gay responded. “He was in the [G] League all year. He played up with us in the bubble and he could be really good.”

https://airalamo.com/2020/11/09/san-antonio-spurs-rudy-gay-future-keldon/

Future star, baby

Yep. Keldon has definitely shown the most potential so far comparing all of our young guys. He will push the rest of our young guys and should be a great match with Derrick White for our future!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BooWilliamsAAU/status/1327373010165231617

https://scontent-bos3-1.cdninstagram.com/v/t51.2885-15/sh0.08/e35/c0.90.720.720a/s640x640/125179991_2798167207072955_4783380449233755522_n.j pg?_nc_ht=scontent-bos3-1.cdninstagram.com&_nc_cat=111&_nc_ohc=Sithq6lK2M0AX_gM008&_nc_tp=24&oh=57125e534fcc6b4c384f1f84005b7226&oe=5FB1969E

[Dverde]

Gun show in Keldonville.

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

In the photo shoot for the new basketball jersey’s he looks to have bulked up a bit more.

[SpursDynasty85]

hmm. Keldon looks 3 inches taller than Murray. Did he grow an inch since joining Spurs??

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/DABartonek/status/1329263849804079106

[Dejounte]

https://i.imgur.com/0bpUicI.jpg

[Dejounte]

CH8w7oZny0Z

Keldon is America's golden boy. New nickname: Captain Spur. Protect him at all costs.

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/CarolinaTeague_/status/1331007203692646401

[BackHome]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/125000232_10157641685896981_4752508652028966173_o. jpg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=2&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=koYXghaR3YsAX-Bkz_k&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=d4112de935f3ace8c479ef32afecaf17&oe=5FD3BF8B

https://i.imgur.com/WB3FUVu.jpg

How can Murray’s arms be as big as his legs?

[GAustex]

CH8w7oZny0Z

Keldon is America's golden boy. New nickname: Captain Spur. Protect him at all costs.
Not following them corona protocols
Just saying...

[Dejounte]

https://i.imgur.com/j0bnAir.jpg

DONATED and I challenge any of you Donks SPurgs and Eytesters to do the same lets make this an Ice Bucket challenge I Nominate timvp Chinook Dejounte

Nice thing you did there... You're a legend. Here's my donation:

https://i.imgur.com/Sg94jbi_d.webp?maxwidth=640&shape=thumb&fidelity=medium

[tonight...you]

CG5aT6MHZ-0
I was raised in Cen-Tex. Was taught the bow by 9. I always wanted a compound, but they never got me one.
It was called a "bitch's bow".

Hated to have to always pull 60-70 pound draws as I grew.

[Dejounte]

CIDub2TDAHv
Happy thanksgiving you all... Donate to the Salvation army you dirtbags https://give.salvationarmytexas.org/team/327233

its just as easy to give a 3 dollar donation as it is to shit post or give or like "grades"....

https://i.imgur.com/npEX7EP.jpg

Dancing to no music? Keldon is a psychopath, confirmed.

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/dabartonek/status/1333796824155451394?s=21


Interview with Keldon Johnson dropped today. Will be giving it a listen after work. Looks like he talks about his experiences in Austin and its relation to the current Spurs.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/dabartonek/status/1333796824155451394?s=21


Interview with Keldon Johnson dropped today. Will be giving it a listen after work. Looks like he talks about his experiences in Austin and its relation to the current Spurs.

These interviewers need to be more professional haha. There were some solid questions though..
With that said..

BIG BODY
AND 1 BABY

[Sugus]

These interviewers need to be more professional haha. There were some solid questions though..
With that said..

BIG BODY
AND 1 BABY

Haha, yeah, opening up the interview talking about fast food places and stuff... I also didn't like the way Keldon's mic was equalized/mixed, but that might be hard to fix or get down if the interview wasn't in person.

Also, just read that neither Keldon, nor White, nor Quin will be available for preseason games.... Sucks...

E: oh wait, you made a whole post about it, just saw that. lol :lol

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334584712006934536?s=19

Support Keldon Johnson by ordering bean and cheese tamales.

[Ocotillo]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1334584712006934536?s=19

Support Keldon Johnson by ordering bean and cheese tamales.

Oh man, don't go all Dejuan Blair on us K. :rollin

[Dejounte]

Those arms bro

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/spurs-keldon-johnson-continues-his-san-antonio-education-by-learning-to-make-tamales

http://static-15.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/99d8270e-ec5e-41be-8a7a-c9bd976d3eb4-large16x9_DSC00843.jpg

https://news4sanantonio.com/resources/media2/original/full/1600/center/80/098aae33-ff0b-4a07-a0f4-fd3d36f3c92c-DSC00908.jpg

[John B]

Those arms bro

https://news4sanantonio.com/sports/spurs-zone/spurs-keldon-johnson-continues-his-san-antonio-education-by-learning-to-make-tamales

http://static-15.sinclairstoryline.com/resources/media/99d8270e-ec5e-41be-8a7a-c9bd976d3eb4-large16x9_DSC00843.jpg

https://news4sanantonio.com/resources/media2/original/full/1600/center/80/098aae33-ff0b-4a07-a0f4-fd3d36f3c92c-DSC00908.jpg

Yup and I'm sure he's grown an inch on two. And the way he likes to absorb contacts, dude is gonna be on the line a lot.

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1337429743457759232?s=19

Protect him at all costs

[ace3g]

CJKtE0pMhdb

[John B]

Keldon is our starting PF bitches :lol

[Dejounte]

He'll be either P.J. Tucker or Malik Hairston.

Some gems on the first few pages... Here's one of them.

[NASpurs]

CJKtE0pMhdb

And he doesn't have twig basketball ball player legs, the dude is built like Blake Griffin except obviously shorter.

And his face looks like Westbrook in that picture :lol

[4down]

CJKtE0pMhdb Built like a Mack truck. They ought to honk a tractor-trailer horn at the arena when he checks in to games.

[Sugus]

Keldon is our starting PF bitches :lol

What's insane is that he truly doesn't look out of place there. We'll have to see what he does against a team with a "true" PF (what team even runs a real PF nowadays, tbh...?), but he's got the size, the length, and the strength to seemingly handle it. Crazy to think many folks here were saying he was too small to play SF a couple months ago :lol

[NASpurs]

:lol at the contrast in color between Dieng and Grayson Allen

[John B]

What's insane is that he truly doesn't look out of place there. We'll have to see what he does against a team with a "true" PF (what team even runs a real PF nowadays, tbh...?), but he's got the size, the length, and the strength to seemingly handle it. Crazy to think many folks here were saying he was too small to play SF a couple months ago :lol
I swear the kid has grown 1-2 inches since coming to SA. He was listed 6'5 and for sure he's no 6'5 now

[Sugus]

I swear the kid has grown 1-2 inches since coming to SA. He was listed 6'5 and for sure he's no 6'5 now

Wasn't he reported to have grown all the way to 6'8 some time ago? I remember something like that. It's a shame that the NBA isn't more rigorous in regards to measurements... He certainly looks like he should have his height updated. I'd also like to know if his wingspan is longer. He just looks so much bigger and imposing on the court.

[XDT76]

Wasn't he reported to have grown all the way to 6'8 some time ago? I remember something like that. It's a shame that the NBA isn't more rigorous in regards to measurements... He certainly looks like he should have his height updated. I'd also like to know if his wingspan is longer. He just looks so much bigger and imposing on the court.

How does he look next to DDR was not able to watch this game.

[Dejounte]

https://youtu.be/eNuQ2oIKmLw

Missed a couple open 3s where he could have easily had 20+ points for his first game

He is a force when he drives in

Once he improves his handles a bit (Kawhi didn't do it until year 4 or 5), the dude is a star

[Sugus]

How does he look next to DDR was not able to watch this game.

He looks... Big. Really big. This is a Spergs-eyetester level of analysis, but he looked bigger than DDR on the court, and maybe even a bit taller? I don't know how tall DDR is (supposed to be). But if I'm not mistaken, the starting lineup officially had DDR at the 3, and Keldon at the 4. So that tells you everything you need to know in regards to how coaching sees Johnson.

Big Body, baby. :downspin:

[Seventyniner]

He looks... Big. Really big. This is a Spergs-eyetester level of analysis, but he looked bigger than DDR on the court, and maybe even a bit taller? I don't know how tall DDR is (supposed to be). But if I'm not mistaken, the starting lineup officially had DDR at the 3, and Keldon at the 4. So that tells you everything you need to know in regards to how coaching sees Johnson.

Big Body, baby. :downspin:

It's not all about height anyway. The other two dimensions (length and width) matter too.

For example, Chuck Hayes was a stout post defender despite being only 6'6".

[Dennis the Menace]

Big Body is young Kawhi with a great personality and anything for the team mentality.

[Dejounte]

The only reason a short power forward would be considered a liability is when he's facing an opposing forward who's posting him up and backing him down easily. Strength is what's needed at that position these days. LaMarcus' post up ability did nothing against Harden because Harden is so strong that LMA was unable to back him down. No matter how tall LaMarcus is, him being able to shoot over James didn't matter. Whereas if you recall the Denver series, Millsap was having his way EASILY against Rudy Gay. So if Keldon wants to continue to be a starter (assuming other positions are locked in), then he needs to hope players like Millsap won't have their way against him.

[mo7888]

I like KJ and DDR at the 4 in certain lineups but to really compete we are going to need for Luka to develop or make a move for a real 4 who can spread the floor and is physical.

[TimDunkem]

Some gems on the first few pages... Here's one of them.
PJ was a 2/3 that now moonlights as a 4/5

KJ can play the four.

Wow. So far off! :lol

[TimDunkem]

We can pull up some legitimately retarded Dejounte takes though. I mean this whole forum is full of them now that Dejounte lives here 24/7.

[Dejounte]

PJ was a 2/3 that now moonlights as a 4/5

KJ can play the four.

Wow. So far off! :lol

It's not about positions, it's about their style, play, and upside. PJ is nowhere close to KJ in terms of that.

[Dejounte]

We can pull up some legitimately retarded Dejounte takes though. I mean this whole forum is full of them now that Dejounte lives here 24/7.

Don't take it personal. I'm just busting your balls.

[TimDunkem]

It's not about positions, it's about their style, play, and upside. PJ is nowhere close to KJ in terms of that.
I know you reeeeally want a gotcha but this isn't it.

[Sugus]

It's not all about height anyway. The other two dimensions (length and width) matter too.

For example, Chuck Hayes was a stout post defender despite being only 6'6".

For sure. I haven't checked his measurements in a while, but he didn't seem to have a bad wingspan nor standing reach. I remember the disparity between his height and standing reach, due to his short neck, but nothing more than that. Would be interesting to see how his (supposed, since he might've grown since then) measurements stack up to the average PF dimensions.

[Sugus]

I like KJ and DDR at the 4 in certain lineups but to really compete we are going to need for Luka to develop or make a move for a real 4 who can spread the floor and is physical.

Well, if we assume DD leaves for greener pastures next season (big IF, I know), it'd only leave Keldon as a stretch-4, so to speak. I definitely agree though that we need a "real" 4, especially a perimeter oriented one, to pair with and complement Jakob's defensive oriented game. I'm really hoping we can snatch Collins away from Atlanta, he's a perfect fit here. I hope a solid season from all our players can convince him that we're the best opportunity he'll get at contention (whilst being handsomely paid).

[mo7888]

Well, if we assume DD leaves for greener pastures next season (big IF, I know), it'd only leave Keldon as a stretch-4, so to speak. I definitely agree though that we need a "real" 4, especially a perimeter oriented one, to pair with and complement Jakob's defensive oriented game. I'm really hoping we can snatch Collins away from Atlanta, he's a perfect fit here. I hope a solid season from all our players can convince him that we're the best opportunity he'll get at contention (whilst being handsomely paid).

I agree with you. I like Collins and I like Lauri. I'm not sure who would cost more but either fit well here with Jakob.

[Dejounte]

I agree with you. I like Collins and I like Lauri. I'm not sure who would cost more but either fit well here with Jakob.

I'm starting to view Collins as more of a C now than a PF. Lauri is even more of a stiff than Collins, so he's definitely a C.

If a PF is the target and Keldon isn't the long-term solution for it, then they need to find a Siakam-prototype PF - lanky, very quick, and can shoot.

I wouldn't mind Collins... he would spell Aldridge's scoring from the C position but it would move Poetl as a bench big permanently. Unless we trade Poetl to the Hawks as part of a sign and trade.

[RC_Drunkford]

The only reason a short power forward would be considered a liability is when he's facing an opposing forward who's posting him up and backing him down easily. Strength is what's needed at that position these days. LaMarcus' post up ability did nothing against Harden because Harden is so strong that LMA was unable to back him down. No matter how tall LaMarcus is, him being able to shoot over James didn't matter. Whereas if you recall the Denver series, Millsap was having his way EASILY against Rudy Gay. So if Keldon wants to continue to be a starter (assuming other positions are locked in), then he needs to hope players like Millsap won't have their way against him.

Chinook disagrees with that statement. He still thinks Trey Lyles should start :lol

[Joseph Kony]

Chinook disagrees with that statement. He still thinks Trey Lyles should start :lol

did that scrub even play yesterday? :lol dont even remember seeing him brick a shot

[talkspurs]

I would like to see us persue Henry Giles for our C position. I think we should have gone after him instead of Jacob this year. Another player I would have liked us to go after would have been Isaiah Hartenstein. I think he is a C and we would have needed to keep potel as he is more of a risk. There are still good Cs out there if you are willing to look.

[Seventyniner]

Chinook disagrees with that statement. He still thinks Trey Lyles should start :lol

Someone with the skillset of Lyles, but a better ability to actually utilize it, would be an ideal fit at starting 4. Low usage, adequate shooting from 3, fluid enough on the perimeter to stay in front of opposing 4s and at least slow down smalls, decent rebounding. Lyles himself just hasn't been able to put it together. He will get some chances this season and I hope he shows some improvement. His horrible preseason showing doesn't necessarily predict his entire season.

[Dejounte]

Someone with the skillset of Lyles, but a better ability to actually utilize it, would be an ideal fit at starting 4. Low usage, adequate shooting from 3, fluid enough on the perimeter to stay in front of opposing 4s and at least slow down smalls, decent rebounding. Lyles himself just hasn't been able to put it together. He will get some chances this season and I hope he shows some improvement. His horrible preseason showing doesn't necessarily predict his entire season.

Sounds like Keita Bates Diop ;)

[mo7888]

I'm starting to view Collins as more of a C now than a PF. Lauri is even more of a stiff than Collins, so he's definitely a C.

If a PF is the target and Keldon isn't the long-term solution for it, then they need to find a Siakam-prototype PF - lanky, very quick, and can shoot.

I wouldn't mind Collins... he would spell Aldridge's scoring from the C position but it would move Poetl as a bench big permanently. Unless we trade Poetl to the Hawks as part of a sign and trade.

Neither are perfect but, I think either will work beside Poeltl in a SL as well as playing C in small ball lineups. We are good enough defending the backcourt and Poeltl defends the rim and moves well enough to cover any lateral quickness issues Lauri or Collins have and on the offensive end either provide spacing. To me the biggest question is $$. We know Collins wants the max (I don't see it myself) and we know the Bulls and Lauri were $4M apart per season but we don't know what those numbers were. In a vacuum I like Collins better but not enough to pay him appreciably more.

[Dejounte]

Neither are perfect but, I think either will work beside Poeltl in a SL as well as playing C in small ball lineups. We are good enough defending the backcourt and Poeltl defends the rim and moves well enough to cover any lateral quickness issues Lauri or Collins have and on the offensive end either provide spacing. To me the biggest question is $$. We know Collins wants the max (I don't see it myself) and we know the Bulls and Lauri were $4M apart per season but we don't know what those numbers were. In a vacuum I like Collins better but not enough to pay him appreciably more.

Sadly, I'm not confident anymore that we're in play to sign a max contract player next offseason... see the thread I just created titled, "PIE CHARTS...".

[RC_Drunkford]

Someone with the skillset of Lyles, but a better ability to actually utilize it, would be an ideal fit at starting 4. Low usage, adequate shooting from 3, fluid enough on the perimeter to stay in front of opposing 4s and at least slow down smalls, decent rebounding. Lyles himself just hasn't been able to put it together. He will get some chances this season and I hope he shows some improvement. His horrible preseason showing doesn't necessarily predict his entire season.

I agree, but he would have to be stronger, more athletic and a more consistent shooter. Jeramie Grant type. Somebody with some shotblocking ability. Lyles just doesn't have that in his game

[Dejounte]

https://i.ibb.co/2k2YH1b/Screenshot-20201226-105735-01.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jjfM37Q.gif

https://media.tenor.com/images/ea949950dc59165d3c119b75859ad250/tenor.gif

[NASpurs]

Such a sus pic :lol Doesnt help they’re playing footsies

[bluebellmaniac]

https://i.ibb.co/2k2YH1b/Screenshot-20201226-105735-01.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jjfM37Q.gif

https://media.tenor.com/images/ea949950dc59165d3c119b75859ad250/tenor.gif

That's awesome. Good for him.

[mo7888]

https://i.ibb.co/2k2YH1b/Screenshot-20201226-105735-01.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jjfM37Q.gif

https://media.tenor.com/images/ea949950dc59165d3c119b75859ad250/tenor.gif

Are we supposed to know who's in the pic with him?

[bluebellmaniac]

Are we supposed to know who's in the pic with him?

Keldon? Lol!

Stop trying to click bait these STers with subtle hate baiting (LJ). We in a new era now. Move along, nothing to see here. This is both normal and a happy thing to see, two people happy and enjoying Xmas.

[Dejounte]

Keldon? Lol!

Stop trying to click bait these STers with subtle hate baiting (LJ). We in a new era now. Move along, nothing to see here. This is both normal and a happy thing to see, two people happy and enjoying Xmas.

I'm with you. People should be shamed if they look down on this (if it's legit and they're not just joking around). Sorry if I've offended anybody.

[R. DeMurre]

Pretty weak "playing to the bro crowd" post. You're better than that.

[ismael-robert]

Being 2020 doesnt change God's word

[bluebellmaniac]

Being 2020 doesnt change God's word

Which word is that? Hate thy neighbor?

[Mr. Body]

Which word is that? Hate thy neighbor?

"Donald Trump is the true pedophile."

[Joseph Kony]

Being 2020 doesnt change God's word

lol still believing in god :lmao what a dummy

[TimDunkem]

No wonder he goes so hard at the rim.

[mo7888]

I don't get it... I didn't take the pic as being gay... maybe it is maybe not... I just wondered who that was in the picture with Keldon.. doesn't matter either way though.

[RC_Drunkford]

Keldon ain't gay, he used to pulll up with bad bitches in big whips during his Kentucky days. Gtfo

[lefty20]

Why the fuck would it even matter if he's gay? All that matters is whether he can ball or not. And I think we all know the answer to that question, tbh.

[B1gduff]

This last game, I think we also that Keldon, has the shot to be a beast, but also needs to add more into this game.

Next i think i would like to see him add a mid range. He's strong enough to attack tha paint and score, but it's going to be tough when theirs a wall infront of him and he isn't getting calls. So adding that Mid range should ehlp open things up.

He also should shoot a few more 3s, but at times be a smart player. WHich we're seeing. He was makign the 3s, and instead attacked. But looking forawrd, if he's left open he should take the 3s.

[DAF86]

https://i.ibb.co/2k2YH1b/Screenshot-20201226-105735-01.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jjfM37Q.gif

https://media.tenor.com/images/ea949950dc59165d3c119b75859ad250/tenor.gif

The hug doesn't strike me as a romantic one. The feet in sock stacking though. :lol

I hope that isn't his partner, tbh. I don't care if Keldon is gay or not, but my boy can do much better than that, tbh. :lol

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1343387988684890113

HYPE!!!

Remember the last player Pop said this about?

You do?

Oh yeah, fuck him!

BIG BODYYYYYYY

[FkLA]

I dont see star in KJ yet. This is the NBA, he cant just big body his way through everyone. His whole game is pretty much spot-ups and slashing all the way to basket right now. Maybe I'm off but just based on eye test, I'd imagine his FG% on those contested drives isnt very good.

He brings it though. His energy is contagious. I can definitely see him being a high end role player.

[Dejounte]

I dont see star in KJ yet. This is the NBA, he cant just big body his way through everyone. His whole game is pretty much spot-ups and slashing all the way to basket right now. Maybe I'm off but just based on eye test, I'd imagine his FG% on those contested drives isnt very good.

He brings it though. His energy is contagious. I can definitely see him being a high end role player.

"High end role player"

Oh man.... keep it coming.

Love it when this guy keeps proving people wrong.

I guess people are just judging off the games they've seen in the NBA. I watched every gleague of his. Y'all aint see nothing yet.

[FkLA]

https://i.ibb.co/2k2YH1b/Screenshot-20201226-105735-01.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/jjfM37Q.gif

https://media.tenor.com/images/ea949950dc59165d3c119b75859ad250/tenor.gif

Not that it matters but that does look gay af, tbh. :lol

[timtonymanu]

You guys should have been here 10 years ago when Richard Jefferson was still on the team and he and Luke Walton and other friends took pics on a banana boat wearing short shorts. :lol

Times have changed, but that thread had some good reactions at the time.

[Ice009]

Is Keldon gay, or is this a banana boat type picture where it just looks that way? Either way, I like how hard the kid is playing out there. He doesn't seem to give up. We really should have won this game. I also don't understand why he doesn't get foul calls. This league is fucking shit. You reward pussies, yet don't call fouls on guys getting hammered?

[Dejounte]

Is Keldon gay, or is this a banana boat type picture where it just looks that way? Either way, I like how hard the kid is playing out there. He doesn't seem to give up. We really should have won this game. I also don't understand why he doesn't get foul calls. This league is fucking shit. You reward pussies, yet don't call fouls on guys getting hammered?

Pop calling Keldon a "fine two-way player" tonight is classic CIA Pop. He's putting respect on his name. He's going to do it a couple more times and THEN call out the refs probably a month later.

It's the same modus operandi shit he pulled with Kawhi before Kawhi broke out to become a star.

[timtonymanu]

I never understood that whole "players got to earn their fouls"/rookie treatment kind of stuff from the refs. Just goes to show how dumb the nba rules are in general.

[FkLA]

That type of a picture just isnt normal unless they're gay partners, imo.

Why is his twink bf facing that way and so close to him? His crotch is practically rubbing KJ's thigh. Playing footsies. Twink bf has his hand on KJ's mid section, which is typically how womens pose with their men. Looks like a Christmas pic in their personal home too.

100% gay imo

[XDT76]

Is Keldon gay, or is this a banana boat type picture where it just looks that way? Either way, I like how hard the kid is playing out there. He doesn't seem to give up. We really should have won this game. I also don't understand why he doesn't get foul calls. This league is fucking shit. You reward pussies, yet don't call fouls on guys getting hammered?

It's the NBA, you don't foul out Zion or Ingram for a Spurs player.

[Raven]

he looks decent tbh