Defund the Police

[johnsmith]

So I didn’t see a thread specifically dealing with this topic. If there is, I apologize and could you kindly direct me to it?

With that out of the way, I don’t understand this concept. At first I thought it meant redistributing some of the financial support police receive from their local governments but as the week went on, it seems people mean to dissolve the police completely and come up with a whole new form of maintaining the law.....I just don’t see how that would be possible or even remotely a good idea. Someone change my mind.

[Spurminator]

It means different things depending on who you ask. It's a dumb and counterproductive slogan.

Rest assured, there is not anywhere near enough popular or legislative support for dissolving the police completely.

[Spurs Homer]

So I didn’t see a thread specifically dealing with this topic. If there is, I apologize and could you kindly direct me to it?

With that out of the way, I don’t understand this concept. At first I thought it meant redistributing some of the financial support police receive from their local governments but as the week went on, it seems people mean to dissolve the police completely and come up with a whole new form of maintaining the law.....I just don’t see how that would be possible or even remotely a good idea. Someone change my mind.


just one example:

in texas, for example, republicans defund mental health hospitals/ programs leaving the cop who arrests a guy having an episode - with no option except to arrest him for acting out and scaring the public.

The police sometimes end up hurting the guy or killing him or escalating -

if mental health funding could be restored - then mental health pros could respond with the cops and see if they can defuse and get the guy in a psyche hospital instead of jail where more ill-equipped people will mishandle the suspect.

republicans wont do it and instead get elected by assuring red state voters that they will be tough on crime and will not support “entitlements”

in the end- we all lose


people like fox news and trump pounce on the slogan “defund the police” and get their cult to immediately lash out at dems...

kind of like “dems want open borders”

which is another lib hating trigger and nothing but disinformation

[slick'81]

Private security forces are already on record as worse wherever they operate.Blackwater- nothing more really needs to be said.

There needs to be a conversation behind the defund the police movement.I dont think any group actually wants them defunded as the end result would be much worse then what we have today. I think reallocating the funds would be best

[ElNono]

It means different things depending on who you ask. It's a dumb and counterproductive slogan.

Rest assured, there is not anywhere near enough popular or legislative support for dissolving the police completely.

This, really. And I think it goes more towards police departments spending shitloads of money in Swat teams and iphone unlockers (13k/year for that one device), when they should be more community focused and better trained than adversarial.

[slick'81]

Iknow this is going to be difficult ,but you too can do it

1. We demand divestment in the police force
2. We demand invesntment in the health and prosperity of our communities

[HarlemHeat37]

It just means allocating the money properly, involving more community outreach, social workers and programs, drug programs, etc, rather than relying on police to address every single facet of society like they're currently asked to do(and aren't qualified to do, at all).

Unfortunately, the branding of this movement is already terrible and Republicans are going to use this slogan as a way to instill fear. Liberals give them such easy ways to spin shit.

[DMC]

A goog cop is a dead cop... thats not about reallocating funds.. but spin away. The die is cast.

[ElNono]

A goog cop is a dead cop... thats not about reallocating funds.. but spin away. The die is cast.

Not sure what you're trying to convey with this post.

[SnakeBoy]

Like Spurs Homer said, it means taking some of the police money and using it to lock up people deemed crazy in pyschiatric hospitals like the old days. I think it's a good idea but I liked Shutter Island.

[slick'81]

"Divest" should replace it but the common person probably wouldnt understand that term enough. Not a flame,just being honest

[ChumpDumper]

A goog cop is a dead cop... thats not about reallocating funds.. but spin away. The die is cast.You're drunk again.

[DMC]

Not sure what you're trying to convey with this post.

The same people doing this micro secession were chanting a good cop is a dead cop just a few days ago. How can you reconcile those two messages? I mean you're trying to neuter that sentiment into a paycut.

[Th'Pusher]

The same people doing this micro secession were chanting a good cop is a dead cop just a few days ago. How can you reconcile those two messages? I mean you're trying to neuter that sentiment into a paycut.

You love to focus on the fringe and paint with a broad brush. It’s lazy.

As had been said multiple times, it’s poorly executed marketing

[DMC]

You love to focus on the fringe and paint with a broad brush. It’s lazy.

As had been said multiple times, it’s poorly executed marketing

You didnt take that tact with disinfectant...

So if the left issues a fatwah against the police, its poorly executed marketing. If the right says something about disinfectant thats obviously incomplete or short sighted? That is to be taken at face value.

[boutons_deux]

Boston is shifting $20M from cop OT to community services

[Chucho]

FWIW, "defunded" doesn't mean "disbanded and overhauled".

[ChumpDumper]

You didnt take that tact with disinfectant...

So if the left issues a fatwah against the police, its poorly executed marketing. If the right says something about disinfectant thats obviously incomplete or short sighted? That is to be taken at face value.Are you comparing a few people on the fringe left to the President of the United States?

:lol

[spurraider21]

on top of dealing with emergency response situations, police are given way too much responsibility to address deep societal issues like homelessness, domestic disputes, drug addiction, mental health... and even absurd shit at times like chasing down loose animals, dealing with noise complaints

and they approach all of these situations while armed with a deadly weapon after being trained that at any moment somebody could pull out a gun and shoot them, so they have to always be alert

[RandomGuy]

So I didn’t see a thread specifically dealing with this topic. If there is, I apologize and could you kindly direct me to it?

With that out of the way, I don’t understand this concept. At first I thought it meant redistributing some of the financial support police receive from their local governments but as the week went on, it seems people mean to dissolve the police completely and come up with a whole new form of maintaining the law.....I just don’t see how that would be possible or even remotely a good idea. Someone change my mind.

There has been some discussion in it for the riot thread, but since it is an idea being floated around, it is probably a good idea to hve a discussion space for it.

Sounded dumb to me at first glance, but it is really about shifting priorities, rather than outright abolishing the police, who take up a huge chunk of any city budget.

Quick version:
We spend a lot on police, and force them to be dealing with a lot of problems such as drug use, homelessness, mental helath issues including domestic violence and so forth.
Our under-investment in the social safety net, and the criminalization of what should really be non-criminal behavior, such as smoking weed, or heroin use, leads to expensive police spending, and a lot of unnecessary non-solutions. If we had more appropriate experts handing problems, such as health care professionals or mental health professionals, we would not need as much police.

"when the only tool you have is a hammer, you tend to see all problems as being solved with it" or something similar.

It means placing an emphasis on preventing crime, for which law enforcement is not really well suited.

Which is cheaper, free needles, or dealing with health complications like Hep or AIDS from dirty needles?

Police and jails are pretty damn expensive. I personally strongly suspect we can take $1.00 from a police department, put that dollar into other experts and social safety nets, and save ourselves more than that dollar in expenses elsewhere.

Get into the weeds, and there are a lot of issues, but there is a pretty good case to be made, IMO, to at least try, especially as there has to be some low-hanging fruit in the system due to the high costs of police/jails.

I am mindful of the studies on free needles that showed a very specific benefit of avoided expenses at public hospitals of $1.14 for every $1.00 spent on such programs. Probably could find it if I go looking again.

[RandomGuy]

T hrowing junkies in jail is another easy one for me. How about instead of putting them in jail, you simply get them into rehab? Hell, go so far as to provide the drugs they are addicted to, and have them administered by medical professionals, in a controlled setting. Sounds radical, but you avoid expensive O.D.s and emergency rooms, make the drug available without criminal activity, such as theft (avoided crime right there), and you have them in constant contact with care that offers the best chance of getting them off the drugs anyway. Even if they never get off the drugs, you can still get them jobs and semifunctional.

Getting them jobs, means getting them into contributing to the economy directly, and offsets costs, especially compared to jails/police which are 100% cost.

Lastly this model would kill the criminal cartels that provide these drugs. More avoided crimes. There is a HUGE benefit. No more drug pipelines saves money in border enforcement, another expensive boondoggle, IMO.

[RandomGuy]

You didnt take that tact with disinfectant...

So if the left issues a fatwah against the police, its poorly executed marketing. If the right says something about disinfectant thats obviously incomplete or short sighted? That is to be taken at face value.

California cop killing suspect wrote far-right ‘boogaloo’ slogans in blood: report
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/california-cop-killing-suspect-wrote-far-right-boogaloo-slogans-in-blood-report/

:lol fatwahs

Right-wingers kill more people than left wing fatwahs ever have.

[elbamba1]

just one example:

in texas, for example, republicans defund mental health hospitals/ programs leaving the cop who arrests a guy having an episode - with no option except to arrest him for acting out and scaring the public.

The police sometimes end up hurting the guy or killing him or escalating -

if mental health funding could be restored - then mental health pros could respond with the cops and see if they can defuse and get the guy in a psyche hospital instead of jail where more ill-equipped people will mishandle the suspect.

republicans wont do it and instead get elected by assuring red state voters that they will be tough on crime and will not support “entitlements”

in the end- we all lose


people like fox news and trump pounce on the slogan “defund the police” and get their cult to immediately lash out at dems...

kind of like “dems want open borders”

which is another lib hating trigger and nothing but disinformation

And yet it seems like the worst offenses seem to happen in democrat blue states and cities. This is not a republican/democrat problem. Thinking that a (D) or an (R) will some how remedy race in this country makes people part of the problem.

[Chris]

https://i.ibb.co/gPGdMFB/IMG-20200612-152026.jpg

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Breaking911/status/1271527866405130241?s=19

[DMC]

Are you comparing a few people on the fringe left to the President of the United States?

:lol

Just your response to each

[DMC]

California cop killing suspect wrote far-right ‘boogaloo’ slogans in blood: report
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/california-cop-killing-suspect-wrote-far-right-boogaloo-slogans-in-blood-report/

:lol fatwahs

Right-wingers kill more people than left wing fatwahs ever have.

So its a numbers game.

[Trainwreck2100]

It means different things depending on who you ask. It's a dumb and counterproductive slogan.

Rest assured, there is not anywhere near enough popular or legislative support for dissolving the police completely.

it's a really stupid name considering re-fund the police is right there, makes more sense, and tells you what most people want

[ElNono]

The same people doing this micro secession were chanting a good cop is a dead cop just a few days ago. How can you reconcile those two messages? I mean you're trying to neuter that sentiment into a paycut.

IMO, I don't think that people are generally representative of all people requesting police reform. So you can't reconcile that message for those people (which appear to be a minority, I might add), but I don't think that people are the majority (not even average) representation of what it's being conveyed as reforming the police force.

[Spurs Homer]

And yet it seems like the worst offenses seem to happen in democrat blue states and cities. This is not a republican/democrat problem. Thinking that a (D) or an (R) will some how remedy race in this country makes people part of the problem.No one said that at allOP was just asking about the specific issue “defund the police”My example is a Dem vs Rep issue in fact - look at states where funding has been stripped of mental health services and programs to help the poor and it is always rep states that cut the mostRemember “welfare state”That is republicans cutting budgets and using the “tough on crime” and “pulled myself from my bootstrap” arguments to fuck the poorWhen dems try to help- repubs scream “socialism” “get the govt out of our lives”

[ElNono]

I will say that message is damaging overall to the idea of police reform, though. You certainly can't escape that, and I wish more leadership will come out and oppose it.

[RandomGuy]

it's a really stupid name considering re-fund the police is right there, makes more sense, and tells you what most people want

The protests I have seen, like in San Marcos were a bit more accurate as talking about shifting investments.

[spurraider21]

I will say that message is damaging overall to the idea of police reform, though. You certainly can't escape that, and I wish more leadership will come out and oppose it.
Bernie:

https://i.gyazo.com/6d4a5509fa6e973e88fec97a677b90d9.png

[RandomGuy]

I will say that message is damaging overall to the idea of police reform, though. You certainly can't escape that, and I wish more leadership will come out and oppose it.

The problem is amplified by the right-wing media that will ignore anything else to try and shape the narrative. Even if everyone moves on to "police-reform" or "shift investments" today they will hammer that phrase home and strawman it to death, because modern conservatives cannot win honest arguments. They have to use strawman lies.

It is the most frustrating part in talking to them and you see it here all the time.

[Blake]

I will say that message is damaging overall to the idea of police reform, though. You certainly can't escape that, and I wish more leadership will come out and oppose it.

I think police reform is the bigger issue. Knees to the neck should never ever happen.

[vy65]

https://i.ibb.co/gPGdMFB/IMG-20200612-152026.jpg

CLAIM: Hitler also defunded the police and installed his own enforcers.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Hitler did not defund the police.

THE FACTS: As protesters around the nation call for defunding the police in response to police brutality, social media users are sharing posts saying that Nazi leader Adolf Hitler also wanted to defund the police.

Historians say the posts, which have garnered thousands of likes online, are false. The Nazis expanded funding for police, the number officers and their powers, said Christopher Browning, a Holocaust scholar and retired University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill professor.

“Hitler did not disband or defund the police,” he said in an email. “The Fire Decrees of February 1933 gave the Nazis the power to take over all state governments, which meant also the power to take over each state police.”

With the protective custody decree of 1933, police had the power to arrest and place anyone in concentration camps they viewed as being against the regime, according to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. By 1936, police forces centralized under Heinrich Himmler as head of the SS, a group first designed to protect Hitler that would later become the private army for the Nazi party. Himmler, who, as head of the SS, was also chief of German police, oversaw the Gestapo and the SD, the intelligence branch of the SS. Heinrich Muller, who was appointed to lead the Gestapo under Himmler, was a career Munich policeman. The SS, SD and police would go on to become the primary leading forces behind the Holocaust, where six million Jews and millions of others including gay people were murdered.

Gavriel D. Rosenfeld, a historian and history professor at Fairfield University, said in an email that the Nazis made the police one of the chief recipients of state financial support aside from military spending.

“Let’s just say the Nazis did everything BUT defund the police,” he said.

[vy65]

:lmao failed twitter lawyer also turns out to be a failed twitter historian

[spurraider21]

CLAIM: Hitler also defunded the police and installed his own enforcers.

AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. Hitler did not defund the police.

THE FACTS: As protesters around the nation call for defunding the police in response to police brutality, social media users are sharing posts saying that Nazi leader Adolf Hitler also wanted to defund the police.

Historians say the posts, which have garnered thousands of likes online, are false. The Nazis expanded funding for police, the number officers and their powers, said Christopher Browning, a Holocaust scholar and retired University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill professor.

“Hitler did not disband or defund the police,” he said in an email. “The Fire Decrees of February 1933 gave the Nazis the power to take over all state governments, which meant also the power to take over each state police.”

With the protective custody decree of 1933, police had the power to arrest and place anyone in concentration camps they viewed as being against the regime, according to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum. By 1936, police forces centralized under Heinrich Himmler as head of the SS, a group first designed to protect Hitler that would later become the private army for the Nazi party. Himmler, who, as head of the SS, was also chief of German police, oversaw the Gestapo and the SD, the intelligence branch of the SS. Heinrich Muller, who was appointed to lead the Gestapo under Himmler, was a career Munich policeman. The SS, SD and police would go on to become the primary leading forces behind the Holocaust, where six million Jews and millions of others including gay people were murdered.

Gavriel D. Rosenfeld, a historian and history professor at Fairfield University, said in an email that the Nazis made the police one of the chief recipients of state financial support aside from military spending.

“Let’s just say the Nazis did everything BUT defund the police,” he said.
more than 280 characters

he wont read

[vy65]

more than 280 characters

he wont read

Caught him spreading propaganda, but that won't prevent him by spreading more propaganda while simultaneously criticizing "democratic propaganda"

[Blake]

more than 280 characters

he wont read

Lol

[ElNono]

Caught him spreading propaganda, but that won't prevent him by spreading more propaganda while simultaneously criticizing "democratic propaganda"

got emmm

[Th'Pusher]

You didnt take that tact with disinfectant...

So if the left issues a fatwah against the police, its poorly executed marketing. If the right says something about disinfectant thats obviously incomplete or short sighted? That is to be taken at face value.

I didn’t take any tact with the disinfect. I don’t think I commented on it, tbh. Still, to compare the fringe left with the leader of the GOP is ignorant. You’re an argumentative clown as always

[ChumpDumper]

https://i.ibb.co/gPGdMFB/IMG-20200612-152026.jpglol no

[RandomGuy]

So its a numbers game.

you have 0 credibility.

Yeah, that is an important number. :lol

[TSA]

Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

[ElNono]

Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html

Thanks for sharing this opinion. I mean, if we're talking real reform, she's probably right that nothing seems to ever happen in this department, and Joe Biden isn't going to be that guy.

That said, I think she should temper her expectations accordingly, tbh

[FrostKing]

Yes, We Mean Literally Abolish the Police

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html
"We should redirect the billions that now go to police departments toward providing health care, housing, education and good jobs. If we did this, there would be less need for the police in the first place."

Education is a good start. But are we talking math & science or social awareness? Unfortunately such a transformation would take several generations.

[vy65]

:lmao failed twitter lawyer also turns out to be a failed twitter historian

Chris spreads his hateful lies because we move on to the next subject of discussion. We must never forget this weak beta male is a malicious liar.

[Winehole23]

When the streets calm and people suggest once again that we hire more black police officers or create more civilian review boards, I hope that we remember all the times those efforts have failed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/12/opinion/sunday/floyd-abolish-defund-police.html


we can shrink the net by shrinking our misdemeanor codes — that's the job of the legislature. We can shrink the misdemeanor net by reducing arrests, that can be a legislative action, decriminalization for example, it can be the decision by individual police departments, and it can be the decision by prosecutors to move away from the enforcement of these low-level offenses and focus on more serious offenses. And then we can punish less, we can arrest less, we can incarcerate less, we can fine less. It's zeroing in on that net and finding ways to shrink it.

https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updates-protests-for-racial-justice/2020/06/12/876221163/law-professor-on-how-misdemeanors-sweep-blacks-into-the-criminal-system

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1271803332160565250?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1271803332160565250?s=19OK, don't get paid. Pretty easy.

[GAustex]

Cost of goods go up when the cost to get drivers to deliver goes up.

[Chinook]

https://twitter.com/gatewaypundit/status/1271803332160565250?s=19

But they'll deliver to moderate and right-leaning cities with defunded police departments?

[Spurminator]

Crazy idea, if your pithy three-word, protest-friendly slogan requires explanation in order to reveal that it's less provocative than it sounds, it's a bad slogan and you should come up with something else.

[Leetonidas]

77% :lol

fake news. they'll do what they need to to get paid or they will go find a new job tbh

[ChumpDumper]

Self-selection poll.

[Blake]

But they'll deliver to moderate and right-leaning cities with defunded police departments?

Lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1272732378155356162?s=19

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1272732378155356162?s=19

The Trump shake

[DJR210]

Coming from someone who had his fucking ass BEAT several times by the same crooked Bexar County Warrant Officers in front of my own apartment for simply coming home after dark.. "DEFUND THE POLICE" is absolutely fucking retarded as hell and the primary idiot you see saying that garbage is 16-22 and has no fucking idea what the hell life even is at this point. They just want to be part of the movement and parrot the shit they see on their Instagram feed.

[RandomGuy]

OK, don't get paid. Pretty easy.

Eyup. Not like your average Truck driver will have a fucking clue which city is which.

Useless poll for useless people to pass around and :jack to.

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1272732378155356162?s=19

Did it help with COVID?

[RandomGuy]

Chris spreads his hateful lies because we move on to the next subject of discussion. We must never forget this weak beta male is a malicious liar.

We already knew that. I think he gave up seriously trying to argue months ago, after getting his ass handed to him repeatedly. Now it is twit-sniping and little else.

Low energy laziness.

[dbestpro]

The cost of business insurance is going to make it hard to do business in certain areas that are percieved to be high risk.

[Reck]

Did this died out already? Haven't heard from the defund the police crowd since the prostests stopped.

[TheGreatYacht]

WHAT IS THE REAL AGENDA BEHIND THE EFFORT TO DEFUND AND DISMANTLE THE POLICE?

https://youtu.be/EGA18p_XerE

ducks koriwhat Nathan89 Chris CosmicCowboy DMC DarrinS Millennial_Messiah FrostKing SnakeBoy thispego TSA phxspurfan Spurtacular Thread

[Winehole23]

Crazy idea, if your pithy three-word, protest-friendly slogan requires explanation in order to reveal that it's less provocative than it sounds, it's a bad slogan and you should come up with something else.There's a range of attitudes from abolition to moderate budget cuts under that umbrella. The obvious pliability of the slogan might actually make it a good one for organizing and bargaining.

[Trill Clinton]

1273214159757475842

Defund the police now

[Trill Clinton]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1272732378155356162?s=19

1273001431637909515

https://media3.giphy.com/media/quj5jGCrP6new/giphy.gif

[Will Hunting]

1273214159757475842

Defund the police now
That video doesn’t even make any sense. If they were trying to fuck with her food it wouldn’t take longer, seems to me like McDonalds just fucking up an order. So narcissistic :lol

Cops really have been insanely tone deaf during this whole thing. They need to accept it that people are tired of hearing “it’s just one bad apple” and start holding each other accountable. This whole thing could have been prevented if just one of the three officers with Chauvin decided to intervene.

[RandomGuy]

The cost of business insurance is going to make it hard to do business in certain areas that are percieved to be high risk.

Perceived will matter less to actuaries than real data on risk.

Not having police trying to solve every problem with guns will either add to that risk or take away from it, and the results will speak for themselves.

[RandomGuy]

1273001431637909515

https://media3.giphy.com/media/quj5jGCrP6new/giphy.gif

Mundane explanation:

Some idiot cleaned something and forgot to rinse it out.
-----------------------------------------------------

Right-wing propaganda explanation:

THEY ARE POISONING COPS DELIBERATELY ANTIFA BOOGA BOOGA ANTIFA ALERT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1272732378155356162?s=19

Qhris falls for fake news again.

Zero life changes forthcoming.

[koriwhat]

77% :lol

fake news. they'll do what they need to to get paid or they will go find a new job tbh

You have no clue how most ind truckers work huh? They call the shots and go where they want. More power to them!

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Mau_Carmona/status/1273341514685579269

[Leetonidas]

You have no clue how most ind truckers work huh? They call the shots and go where they want. More power to them!

Shut up faggot

[koriwhat]

Shut up faggot

Can't refute what I said so you resort to pure projection. :tu

[Joseph Kony]

Can't refute what I said so you resort to pure projection. :tu
the forum bukkake rag whose favorite word is faggot talking about projection :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

you also didnt post anything to refute dipshit, you simply stated your drugged out opinion. stick to capris and shitty tats loser, let people who have been to college talk about big boy stuff

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1273398057930014721?s=20

https://twitter.com/mikedinow/status/1273389507300061185?s=20

Hopefully this is true and it better not be for a short period of time.

[boutons_deux]

Inside The Dangerous Online Fever Swamps Of American Police

Cops have a far-right media ecosystem of their own, where they post racist memes, spread disinformation and call for violence against antifa.

“dominop” wrote that “A Firing squad would be a good cure for ANTIFA!!!” Other users chimed in to say snipers or napalm might be more fitting.

in Facebook (https://www.huffpost.com/impact/topic/facebook) groups and on news sites such as Law Enforcement Today — a sort of Breitbart-like outlet written by and for police — there is a fervent narrative that police are under nonstop siege, and that antifa in particular is a constant threat.

Wild misinformation and bigotry are rampant, with people who claim to be current and former officers posting debunked falsehoods and racist stereotypes about protesters.

most of those posts would be right at home in right-wing police media.

“What I think we have here is a market for this kind of racist and divisive garbage across the internet, and unfortunately police are participating in that wave that is witnessed across various professions,”

Law Enforcement Today claims to be the largest law enforcement-owned and -operated media company in America.

It has repeatedly promoted far-right conspiracy theorists and authoritarian policies, particularly during the recent mass demonstrations against police violence.

LET has more than 800,000 followers on Facebook and runs a syndicated radio show.

The site’s articles often bear only a passing resemblance to reality.

The consistent message is that police are perpetually under attack, and that the government — with the exception of President Donald Trump — does not have their back.

One LET article quotes a source purporting to be an anonymous Connecticut state trooper,

who warns that riots in rural areas would be reminiscent of guerrilla warfare in Afghanistan and Iraq, and that

“once they start moving into rural America, there will be a LOT of bloodshed.”

The message board is a cesspool of disinformation, bigoted memes and far-right propaganda, and

regularly lights up with racist comments after publicized incidents of police brutality against people of color.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/police-protests-floyd-law-enforcement-today-rant_n_5ee3ef5fc5b699cea53196b4 (https://www.huffpost.com/entry/police-protests-floyd-law-enforcement-today-rant_n_5ee3ef5fc5b699cea53196b4)

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/odonnell_r/status/1273373149317476357?s=20

Yes.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/CarpeDonktum/status/1273399839938752512?s=20

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/CarpeDonktum/status/1273399839938752512?s=20
comparing this to a guy that was unarmed and running away?

should cops immediately shoot and kill anybody that resists arrest?

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1273398057930014721?s=20

https://twitter.com/mikedinow/status/1273389507300061185?s=20

Hopefully this is true and it better not be for a short period of time.
:lol tim pool is your new guy, huh. tired of andy ngo?

1273051003881996288

[Nathan89]

comparing this to a guy that was unarmed and running away?

should cops immediately shoot and kill anybody that resists arrest?

He wasn't unarmed. He stole the taser from the cops.

[spurraider21]

He wasn't unarmed. He stole the taser from the cops.
a) unarmed as it relates to a lethal weapon

b) the taser was spent... and only could have been used with a direct-contact stun, could not be shot any further. outside of that, it was a paperweight. the guy was running away, had his back to the police and was unarmed at the time of the shooting.

cop had his taser out, and in that moment decided to put the taser way and took out his firearm to immediately shoot a guy running way. its not a justified use of force and the guy should be fired. i dont think there's enough evidence (or at least not what i've seen, prosecutors may have more) for murder, though

[Nathan89]

a) unarmed as it relates to a weapon

b) the taser was spent... and only could have been used with a direct-contact stun, could not be shot any further. outside of that, it was a paperweight

Taser is a weapon.

Yeah, I'm aware. The cop made a decision on the heat of the moment as he slightly turned and directed at him. It's unfortunate this criminal did so much to put himself in a position to get shot.

[TheGreatYacht]

https://mobile.twitter.com/johncardillo/status/1273410493668040704

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1273409711337947136?s=20

:danceclub

[Texas_Ranger]

Just stay home cops, lets see how much can atlanta burn in the next days.

[spurraider21]

Taser is a weapon.

Yeah, I'm aware. The cop made a decision on the heat of the moment as he slightly turned and directed at him. It's unfortunate this criminal did so much to put himself in a position to get shot.
taser was spent. did not pose a threat to the officer or anybody else. let alone to the point that it would justify the cop putting his taser away and switching to his firearm as the guy had his back turned and was running away

[spurraider21]

if we need to purge police departments from officers more interested in defending one another from accountability than the welfare of the citizens they swore an to protect, then so be it.

[Spurminator]

How can any sane human blame anyone for "resisting arrest" right now?

[Nathan89]

He resisted because he was a criminal and didn't want to go back to jail. Let's pretend he was terrified as the police were being as delicate as possible.

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/18814022_1394407797305718_2829050835966881159_n.jp g?_nc_cat=1&_nc_sid=2d5d41&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_oc=AQmNCwMMLLCf8lmfsXgLM9lqMpeRc8FmeoK5a-fUZJ0keGX1MMgTdfMDD150CCsOvdYAqbmqXE7z-fFKlgZRn5-g&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&_nc_tp=14&oh=8981855dcaae441c24790b89de502dc3&oe=5F0F0F94

[Texas_Ranger]

How things are going, one of this days a guy that is bitching about police will have someone break into his house and when he calls 911 a social worker will anwser.

[Winehole23]

if we need to purge police departments from officers more interested in defending one another from accountability than the welfare of the citizens they swore an to protect, then so be it.IF WE'RE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR SHOOTING PEOPLE IN THE BACK, WE CANT DO OUR JOBS!

-- or --

"Nice city you got there, be a shame if anything bad happened to it."

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1273409711337947136?s=20

:danceclub

This is great news... time to dismantle the Atlanta police fraternity and hire trained professionals instead.

[Chris]

comparing this to a guy that was unarmed and running away?

should cops immediately shoot and kill anybody that resists arrest?

You would have shot him after the first punch. If you were threatened with a taser you would shit your pants.

[boutons_deux]

Amid defunding debate, Boston police payroll surges.

Dozens of officers earn more than $300K a year

“These kinds of salaries aren’t new, and they keep happening, over and over and over again," said City Councilor Ricardo Arroyo.

“Overtime isn’t supposed to be a normal thing."

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/17/metro/amid-defunding-debate-boston-police-payroll-surges-dozens-officers-earn-more-than-300k-year/?et_rid=769135622&s_campaign=todaysheadlines:newsletter (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/17/metro/amid-defunding-debate-boston-police-payroll-surges-dozens-officers-earn-more-than-300k-year/?et_rid=769135622&s_campaign=todaysheadlines:newsletter)

[koriwhat]

You would have shot him after the first punch. If you were threatened with a taser you would shit your pants.

Ain't that the fucking truth! Actually bitchboy SR would probably shoot from the get go in any scenario.

[Winehole23]

Philly defunds the police

https://www.inquirer.com/news/budget-police-philadelphia-kenney-covid-20200618.html

[boutons_deux]

Boston’s highest-paid worker:

a cop accused of payroll abuse in 2007

An internal investigation into the 20-year department veteran at the time found numerous payroll abuses:

191 violations in all,

including 68 counts of inaccurate reporting on a paid, off-duty detail card.

The supposed scheme helped Kervin collect $237,272 of pay in 2005 — more than any other city official that year.

And in a press release announcing Kervin’s impending firing, then-commissioner Ed Davis didn’t mince words.

“Based upon the nature of this case,” he said, “termination was an appropriate response.”
But for reasons not entirely clear,

Kervin retained his job with the BPD.

And today, state records show, he is once again the city’s highest-paid employee, earning $355,538, including $115,361 in overtime pay, in 2019.

He made another $41,360 in off-duty details, which are paid by private companies, and

earned $35,492 in city money via education incentives.

He is one of more than two dozen police officers who earned more than $300,000 last year.

the police payroll has jumped dramatically in the past decade, increasing by $125 million — or 43 percent — since 2011.

Overtime growth has been even more significant, with an additional $35.5 million — 84 percent — spent over the same period.

The average pay for police department employees last year was $127,094, including nearly $30,000 in overtime and $20,000 in detail pay, in addition to a base salary. The tally includes civilian workers and sworn personnel.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/17/metro/amid-defunding-debate-boston-police-payroll-surges-dozens-officers-earn-more-than-300k-year/?et_rid=769135622&s_campaign=globesmostpopular:newsletter&et_rid=769135622&s_campaign=globesmostpopular:newsletter (https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/06/17/metro/amid-defunding-debate-boston-police-payroll-surges-dozens-officers-earn-more-than-300k-year/?et_rid=769135622&s_campaign=globesmostpopular:newsletter&et_rid=769135622&s_campaign=globesmostpopular:newsletter)

[spurraider21]

You would have shot him after the first punch.
would be more defensible than shooting him while he is running away, back turned toward me

[spurraider21]

Philly defunds the police

https://www.inquirer.com/news/budget-police-philadelphia-kenney-covid-20200618.html
to be more accurate, they cancelled an increase to the budget

[TheGreatYacht]

Ain't that the fucking truth! Actually bitchboy SR would probably shoot from the get go in any scenario.

Self-deflect

[koriwhat]

Self-deflect

Whatever you say you fucking retard. :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

Whatever you say you fucking retard. :tu

Self-deflect

[koriwhat]

Self-deflect

It's time to ignore you altogether. Your takes are straight garbage, your YT videos are pointless, and you're just a fucking retard who looks for drama with every one of your posts. Fuck off loon!

[TheGreatYacht]

It's time to ignore you altogether. Your takes are straight garbage, your YT videos are pointless, and you're just a fucking retard who looks for drama with every one of your posts. Fuck off loon!

I'm sorry that my takes and videos offend your ancestral Jewish bloodline but facts and history don't care about your feelings. The only side I'm on is the truth.

[koriwhat]

.

[koriwhat]

I'm sorry that my takes and videos offend your ancestral Jewish bloodline but facts and history don't care about your feelings. The only side I'm on is the truth.

After this you'll be ignored like CumDumpster.

You really think I care about your Zionist bs? You think I have some teeth in that game? I'm of that community? You're so delusional. I'm not a jew, I don't attend synagogues, or anything at all to do with the jewish community or it's teachings.

You've lost your damn mind and need help now!

[Winehole23]

would be more defensible than shooting him while he is running away, back turned toward mestill newsworthy, even for that

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/politico/status/1534390103610691586

[Winehole23]

In a low turnout election after crime went down in SF despite cops refusing to do their jobs, and out of state money from conservatives and crybaby police groups drove the messaging.

In way, it is impressive.