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Chucho
07-23-2020, 02:33 PM
And you are still a dumbshit that can't read and understand simple english.
He'll pretend he doesn't care, but will incessantly ankle bite. Dude can't even Google arguments in his favor properly.
Blake
07-23-2020, 03:09 PM
He'll pretend he doesn't care, but will incessantly ankle bite. Dude can't even Google arguments in his favor properly.
Lol it was my article. Please let go of my ankle k thx
Blake
07-23-2020, 03:12 PM
You don't like the 1st amendment?
So you don't think the government should have the right to shut down churches in person either?
Just so we're clear before I call you a retard.
Speaking of Retards:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble
It's called the first amendment of the constitution, dumbass.
Don't get me wrong, I think the churches SHOULD close and go remote, but the government can't legally FORCE them to do it.
In "english for dummies" this means you can't shut down churches without shutting down Walmart too.
you lose again, cuckster.
Do you understand what you did here? Did you understand what's going on in the article I linked or did you just read the headline I pasted?
Lol cc
CosmicCowboy
07-23-2020, 03:31 PM
Do you understand what you did here? Did you understand what's going on in the article I linked or did you just read the headline I pasted?
Lol cc
Damn you are stupid. I even posted the supreme court case for you and highlighted the applicable part. I even highlighted the part in YOUR post that said the same thing. You can't shut down churches without shutting down EVERYTHING that poses a similar risk.
Blake
07-23-2020, 03:55 PM
Damn you are stupid. I even posted the supreme court case for you and highlighted the applicable part. I even highlighted the part in YOUR post that said the same thing. You can't shut down churches without shutting down EVERYTHING that poses a similar risk.
I know. What do you think the article I posted is about, genius?
Do you not get how you backpedaled or are you going to stick with being disingenuous on top of retarded?
Chucho
07-23-2020, 04:01 PM
More ankle biting. Per par.
CosmicCowboy
07-23-2020, 04:10 PM
More ankle biting. Per par.
The guy is a fucking idiot with zero reading comprehension.
I give up. He is too fucking dumb to realize what an ass he is making of himself.
Blake
07-23-2020, 04:11 PM
More ankle biting. Per par.
You're free to ask questions about what I'm talking about but I guess my ankle is really that tasty huh
Blake
07-23-2020, 04:12 PM
The guy is a fucking idiot with zero reading comprehension.
I give up. He is too fucking dumb to realize what an ass he is making of himself.
You didn't even read the article, did you. :lol
You just thought you saw an easy opportunity for an internet win
CosmicCowboy
07-23-2020, 04:13 PM
You don't even read the article, did you. :lol
Yes. I actually read it and understood it, unlike you. They can only legally shut down churches if the shut down everything else of equivalent "danger" which includes Walmart, HEB, etc. That's not happening. If a governor tries to shut down churches based on "danger" without shutting down EVERYTHING of equivalent danger then it is a clear attack on religion and violates the first amendment.
This is the last time I will try to explain it to your dumb ass.
Blake
07-23-2020, 04:16 PM
Yes. I actually read it and understood it, unlike you.
No you didn't. :lol
you ended up posting info that validated why I'm pissed off at Paxton
CosmicCowboy
07-23-2020, 04:20 PM
You didn't even read the article, did you. :lol
You just thought you saw an easy opportunity for an internet win
it's always and easy opportunity for an internet win arguing with you. Like taking candy from a baby.
Blake
07-23-2020, 04:46 PM
You don't like the 1st amendment?
So you don't think the government should have the right to shut down churches in person either?
Just so we're clear before I call you a retard.
Speaking of Retards:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble
It's called the first amendment of the constitution, dumbass.
In exigent circumstances, when the community as a whole faces an impending harm of this magnitude, and where the measures are tailored to meeting the imminent danger, the constitution does allow some temporary restriction on our liberties that would not be tolerated in normal circumstances.
I mean, you just shit on yourself here.
Chucho
07-23-2020, 05:01 PM
The guy is a fucking idiot with zero reading comprehension.
I give up. He is too fucking dumb to realize what an ass he is making of himself.
He's old hat and a worn punching bag. Poor bastard.
CosmicCowboy
07-23-2020, 06:09 PM
He's old hat and a worn punching bag. Poor bastard.
And fucking painfully stupid!
They can absolutely tell churches one entrance/exit, face coverings, social distancing etc. as long as everyone of equivalent danger has to do the same.
RandomGuy
07-23-2020, 06:13 PM
In "english for dummies" this means you can't shut down churches without shutting down Walmart too.
you lose again, cuckster.
But you can force distancing requirements and capacity requirements. Start threatening preachers bottom lines.. they will fight back against that.
That is all I see happening here. I do not think for a second that any of the anti-shutdown preachers are doing so out of concern for anything other than how full the collection plate is at the end of the brainwashing session.... er sermon.
RandomGuy
07-23-2020, 06:15 PM
Speaking of Retards:
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble
It's called the first amendment of the constitution, dumbass.
Sorry. You can shut down a church even with the first amendment, if that church actively threatens the health and safety of others.
If a tenet of a church was the sexual abuse of children, would the first amendment protect that? Simple yes or no.
(sits back and sips wine, awaiting the inevitable evasion/deflection)
RandomGuy
07-23-2020, 06:17 PM
Yes. I actually read it and understood it, unlike you. They can only legally shut down churches if the shut down everything else of equivalent "danger" which includes Walmart, HEB, etc. That's not happening. If a governor tries to shut down churches based on "danger" without shutting down EVERYTHING of equivalent danger then it is a clear attack on religion and violates the first amendment.
This is the last time I will try to explain it to your dumb ass.
Better. Can't shut down arbitrarily churches and not stores. Hooray nuance.
ChumpDumper
07-23-2020, 06:22 PM
So the government can shut down schools, but can't shut down...schools....
Blake
07-23-2020, 06:22 PM
Better. Can't shut down arbitrarily churches and not stores. Hooray nuance.
Or private religious schools but not pubic schools.
But what's happening is that Paxton is saying that even though a city/county may declare it too dangerous to open school buildings and shut them down, they won't be able to shut down private religious schools.
Winehole23
07-23-2020, 06:51 PM
It's too dangerous for Republicans to have an in-person convention, but safe enough to send everybody's kids back to school in a few weeks.
ChumpDumper
07-23-2020, 07:00 PM
It's too dangerous for Republicans to have an in-person convention, but safe enough to send everybody's kids back to school in a few weeks.Surely DeSantis can set them up in a panhandle primary school cafetorium.
CosmicCowboy
07-23-2020, 07:38 PM
But you can force distancing requirements and capacity requirements. Start threatening preachers bottom lines.. they will fight back against that.
That is all I see happening here. I do not think for a second that any of the anti-shutdown preachers are doing so out of concern for anything other than how full the collection plate is at the end of the brainwashing session.... er sermon.
I totally agree with you on that.
CosmicCowboy
07-23-2020, 07:49 PM
Or private religious schools but not pubic schools.
But what's happening is that Paxton is saying that even though a city/county may declare it too dangerous to open school buildings and shut them down, they won't be able to shut down private religious schools.
Just give up loser. You made an ass of yourself.
Spurminator
07-23-2020, 07:56 PM
It's too dangerous for Republicans to have an in-person convention, but safe enough to send everybody's kids back to school in a few weeks.
The petulant child had the convention moved out of Charlotte NC because the NC Governor wouldn't commit to no social distancing requirement. :lmao
Blake
07-23-2020, 08:07 PM
Just give up loser. You made an ass of yourself.
You said you read the article tho.
".......While the San Antonio Metropolitan Health District has forbidden any private or public schools from resuming in-person instruction this fall until at least after Labor Day over COVID-19 concerns, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton has said such local orders don’t apply to religious schools. With Paxton’s blessing, some San Antonio schools have already announced plans to bring students back...."
Then you asked me "you don't like the 1st Amendment?".
I asked you to clarify to which you then went into rant mode, made a strawman, pretended it was me and really went to work on it. Pretty funny, tbh.
Blake
07-23-2020, 08:11 PM
Pretty sad though that they we have private religious schools refusing to listen to the local Health Dept. I really don't want my kids going back.
Pretty sad though that they we have private religious schools refusing to listen to the local Health Dept. I really don't want my kids going back.
That's your choice - just as every parent should have a choice.
Winehole23
07-23-2020, 09:29 PM
The petulant child had the convention moved out of Charlotte NC because the NC Governor wouldn't commit to no social distancing requirement. :lmaoWay I heard it, the Sheriff couldn't guarantee security for the convention, as in could not find enough willing and able bodies in a pandemic.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/20/florida-sheriff-gop-convention-security-373089
ChumpDumper
07-23-2020, 09:32 PM
Way I heard it, the Sheriff couldn't guarantee security for the convention, as in could not find enough willing and able bodies in a pandemic.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/20/florida-sheriff-gop-convention-security-373089det antifa threat
baseline bum
07-23-2020, 10:00 PM
Way I heard it, the Sheriff couldn't guarantee security for the convention, as in could not find enough willing and able bodies in a pandemic.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/07/20/florida-sheriff-gop-convention-security-373089
Why not bring his Portland Schutzstaffel for security?
ChumpDumper
07-23-2020, 10:04 PM
At this rate they're going to end up having the convention in a potato field in eastern Idaho.
Blake
07-23-2020, 10:17 PM
That's your choice - just as every parent should have a choice.
True, I could put them in public school so they can distance learn. It would be a huge inconvenience and suck for so many reasons for me and then, but the real issue is sending kids back after just setting another death record here in Texas.
It's an open defiance of local Health directives and Paxton is just playing partisan politics.
ChumpDumper
07-23-2020, 10:33 PM
Wait. We haven't even started school, right?
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CosmicCowboy
07-23-2020, 10:34 PM
Pretty sad though that they we have private religious schools refusing to listen to the local Health Dept. I really don't want my kids going back.
You have kids? Damn. More tadpoles in the shallow end of the gene pool.
The Importance of Reopening America’s Schools this Fall
As families and policymakers make decisions about their children returning to school, it is important to consider the full spectrum of benefits and risks of both in-person and virtual learning options. Parents are understandably concerned about the safety of their children at school in the wake of COVID-19. The best available evidence indicates if children become infected, they are far less likely to suffer severe symptoms.[1],[2],[3] Death rates among school-aged children are much lower than among adults. At the same time, the harms attributed to closed schools on the social, emotional, and behavioral health, economic well-being, and academic achievement of children, in both the short- and long-term, are well-known and significant. Further, the lack of in-person educational options disproportionately harms low-income and minority children and those living with disabilities. These students are far less likely to have access to private instruction and care and far more likely to rely on key school-supported resources like food programs, special education services, counseling, and after-school programs to meet basic developmental needs.[4]
Aside from a child’s home, no other setting has more influence on a child’s health and well-being than their school. The in-person school environment does the following:
provides educational instruction;
supports the development of social and emotional skills;
creates a safe environment for learning;
addresses nutritional needs; and
facilitates physical activity.
This paper discusses each of these critical functions, following a brief summary of current studies regarding COVID-19 and children.
COVID-19 and Children
The best available evidence indicates that COVID-19 poses relatively low risks to school-aged children. Children appear to be at lower risk for contracting COVID-19 compared to adults. To put this in perspective, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), as of July 17, 2020, the United States reported that children and adolescents under 18 years old account for under 7 percent of COVID-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of COVID-19-related deaths.[5] Although relatively rare, flu-related deaths in children occur every year. From 2004-2005 to 2018-2019, flu-related deaths in children reported to CDC during regular flu seasons ranged from 37 to 187 deaths. During the H1N1pandemic (April 15, 2009 to October 2, 2010), 358 pediatric deaths were reported to CDC. So far in this pandemic, deaths of children are less than in each of the last five flu seasons, with only 64.† Additionally, some children with certain underlying medical conditions, however, are at increased risk of severe illness from COVID-19.*
Scientific studies suggest that COVID-19 transmission among children in schools may be low. International studies that have assessed how readily COVID-19 spreads in schools also reveal low rates of transmission when community transmission is low. Based on current data, the rate of infection among younger school children, and from students to teachers, has been low, especially if proper precautions are followed. There have also been few reports of children being the primary source of COVID-19 transmission among family members.[6],[7],[8] This is consistent with data from both virus and antibody testing, suggesting that children are not the primary drivers of COVID-19 spread in schools or in the community.[9],[10],[11] No studies are conclusive, but the available evidence provides reason to believe that in-person schooling is in the best interest of students, particularly in the context of appropriate mitigation measures similar to those implemented at essential workplaces.
Educational Instruction
Extended school closure is harmful to children. It can lead to severe learning loss, and the need for in-person instruction is particularly important for students with heightened behavioral needs.[12],[13] Following the wave of school closures in March 2020 due to COVID-19, academic learning slowed for most children and stopped for some. A survey of 477 school districts by the University of Washington’s Center on Reinventing Public Education found that, “far too many schools are leaving learning to chance.”[13] Just one in three school districts expected teachers to provide instruction, track student engagement, or monitor academic progress for all students, and wealthy school districts were twice as likely to have such expectations compared to low-income districts.[13]
We also know that, for many students, long breaks from in-person education are harmful to student learning. For example, the effects of summer breaks from in-person schooling on academic progress, known as “summer slide,” are also well-documented in the literature. According to the Northwest Evaluation Association, in the summer following third grade, students lose nearly 20 percent of their school-year gains in reading and 27 percent of their school-year gains in math.[14] By the summer after seventh grade, students lose on average 39 percent of their school-year gains in reading and 50 percent of their school-year gains in math.[14] This indicates that learning losses are large and become even more severe as a student progresses through school. The prospect of losing several months of schooling, compared to the few weeks of summer vacation, due to school closure likely only makes the learning loss even more severe.
Disparities in educational outcomes caused by school closures are a particular concern for low-income and minority students and students with disabilities. Many low-income families do not have the capacity to facilitate distance learning (e.g. limited or no computer access, limited or no internet access), and may have to rely on school-based services that support their child’s academic success. A study by researchers at Brown and Harvard Universities assessed how 800,000 students used Zearn, an online math program, both before and after schools closed in March 2020.[15] Data showed that through late April, student progress in math decreased by about half, with the negative impact more pronounced in low-income zip codes.[15] Persistent achievement gaps that already existed before COVID-19, such as disparities across income levels and races, can worsen and cause serious, hard-to-repair damage to children’s education outcomes.[15],[16] Finally, remote learning makes absorbing information more difficult for students with disabilities, developmental delays, or other cognitive disabilities. In particular, students who are deaf, hard of hearing, have low vision, are blind, or have other learning disorders (e.g., attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)) and other physical and mental disabilities have had significant difficulties with remote learning.[17]
Social and Emotional Skill Development
Schools play a critical role in supporting the whole child, not just their academic achievement. In addition to a structure for learning, schools provide a stable and secure environment for developing social skills and peer relationships. Social interaction at school among children in grades PK-12 is particularly important for the development of language, communication, social, emotional, and interpersonal skills.[18]
Extended school closures are harmful to children’s development of social and emotional skills. Important social interactions that facilitate the development of critical social and emotional skills are greatly curtailed or limited when students are not physically in school. In an in-person school environment, children more easily learn how to develop and maintain friendships, how to behave in groups, and how to interact and form relationships with people outside of their family. In school, students are also able to access support systems needed to recognize and manage emotions, set and achieve positive goals, appreciate others’ perspectives, and make responsible decisions. This helps reinforce children’s feelings of school connectedness, or their belief that teachers and other adults at school care about them and their well-being. Such routine in-person contacts provide opportunities to facilitate social-emotional development that are difficult, if not impossible, to replicate through distance learning.[18],[19],[20]
Additionally, extended closures can be harmful to children’s mental health and can increase the likelihood that children engage in unhealthy behaviors. An environment where students feel safe and connected, such as a school, is associated with lower levels of depression, thoughts about suicide, social anxiety, and sexual activity, as well as higher levels of self-esteem and more adaptive use of free time [19],[20] A longitudinal study of 476 adolescents over 3 years starting in the 6th grade found school connectedness to be especially protective for those who had lower connectedness in other areas of their lives, such as home, and to reduce their likelihood of substance use.[20]
Further, a review of studies conducted on pandemics found a strong association between length of quarantine and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder symptoms, avoidance behavior, and anger. Another review published this year found that post-traumatic stress scores of children and parents in quarantine were four times higher than those not quarantined.[21],[22]
In-person schooling provides children with access to a variety of mental health and social services, including speech language therapy, and physical or occupational therapy to help the physical, psychological, and academic well-being of the child.[23], [24],[25],[26] Further, school counselors are trained in the mental health needs of children and youth and can recognize signs of trauma that primary caregivers are less able to see because they themselves are experiencing the same family stresses. School counselors can then coordinate with teachers to implement interventions to offer children a reassuring environment for regaining the sense of order, security, and normalcy.
Without in-person schooling, many children can lose access to these important services. For example, we know that, even outside the context of school closures, children often do not receive the mental health treatment they need. Among children ages 9-17, it is estimated that 21 percent, or more than 14 million children, experience some type of mental health condition.[27] Yet only 16 percent of those with a condition receive any treatment.[23] Of those, 70-80 percent received such care in a school setting.[23] School closures can be particularly damaging for the 7.4 million American children suffering from a serious emotional disturbance. For those individuals who have a diagnosable mental, behavioral or emotional condition that substantially interferes with or limits their social functioning, schools play an integral role in linking them to care and necessary support services.
For children with intellectual or physical disabilities, nearly all therapies and services are received through schools. These vital services are difficult to provide through distance learning models. As a result, more children with disabilities have received few to no services while schools have been closed.
Safety
Extended school closures deprive children who live in unsafe homes and neighborhoods of an important layer of protection from neglect as well as physical, sexual, and emotional maltreatment and abuse. A 2018 Department of Health and Human Services report found that teachers and other educational staff were responsible for more than one-fifth of all reported child abuse cases—more than any other category of reporter.[28] During the COVID-19 school closures, however, there has been a sharp decline in reports of suspected maltreatment, but tragically a notable increase in evidence of abuse when children are seen for services. For example, the Washington, D.C. Child and Family Services Agency recorded a 62 percent decrease in child abuse reporting calls between mid-March and April 2020 compared to the same time period in 2019, but saw more severe presentation of child abuse cases in emergency rooms.[29] Children who live in a home or neighborhood where neglect, violence, or abuse occur, but who are not physically in school, are deprived of access to trained school professionals who can readily identify the signs of trauma and provide needed support and guidance.[30],[31],[32],[33],[34]
Nutrition
Extended school closures can be harmful to the nutritional health of children. Schools are essential to meeting the nutritional needs of children with many consuming up to half their daily calories at school. Nationwide more than 30 million children participate in the National School Lunch Program and nearly 15 million participate in the School Breakfast Program.[35],[36] For children from low-income families, school meals are an especially critical source of affordable, healthy foods. While schools have implemented strategies to continue meal services throughout periods of school closures, it is difficult to maintain this type of school nutrition program over the long-term. This is a particularly severe problem for the estimated 11 million food-insecure children, living in the United States.
Physical Activity
When schools are closed, children lose access to important opportunities for physical activity. Many children may not be sufficiently physically active outside of the context of in-school physical education (PE) and other school-based activities. Beyond PE, with schools closed, children may not have sufficient opportunities to participate in organized and safe physical activity. They also lose access to other school-based physical activities, including recess, classroom engagements, and after school programs.
The loss of opportunities for physical activity from school closures, especially when coupled with potentially diminished nutrition, can be particularly harmful to children. Physical inactivity and poor nutrition among children are major risk factors for childhood obesity and other chronic health conditions. Over 75 percent of children and adolescents in the United States do not meet the daily physical activity level recommendations (60 minutes or more), and nearly half exceed 2 hours per day in sedentary behavior. Current models estimate that childhood obesity rate may increase by 2.4 percent if school closures continue to December 2020.[37],[38],[39]
Conclusion
Schools are an important part of the infrastructure of our communities, as they provide safe, supportive learning environments for students, employ teachers and other staff, and enable parents, guardians, and caregivers to work. Schools also provide critical services that help meet the needs of children and families, especially those who are disadvantaged, through supporting the development of social and emotional skills, creating a safe environment for learning, identifying and addressing neglect and abuse, fulfilling nutritional needs, and facilitating physical activity. School closure disrupts the delivery of in-person instruction and critical services to children and families, which has negative individual and societal ramifications. The best available evidence from countries that have opened schools indicates that COVID-19 poses low risks to school-aged children, at least in areas with low community transmission, and suggests that children are unlikely to be major drivers of the spread of the virus. Reopening schools creates opportunity to invest in the education, well-being, and future of one of America’s greatest assets—our children—while taking every precaution to protect students, teachers, staff and all their families.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html
RandomGuy
07-24-2020, 09:27 AM
The Importance of Reopening America’s Schools this Fall
As families and policymakers make decisions about their children returning to school, it is important to consider the full spectrum of benefits and risks of both in-person and virtual learning options. Parents are understandably concerned about the safety of their children at school in the wake of COVID-19. The best available evidence indicates if children become infected, they are far less likely to suffer severe symptoms.[1],[2],[3] Death rates among school-aged children are much lower than among adults. At the same time, the harms attributed to closed schools on the social, emotional, and behavioral health, economic well-being, and academic achievement of children, in both the short- and long-term, are well-known and significant. Further, the lack of in-person educational options disproportionately harms low-income and minority children and those living with disabilities. These students are far less likely to have access to private instruction and care and far more likely to rely on key school-supported resources like food programs, special education services, counseling, and after-school programs to meet basic developmental needs.[4]
Aside from a child’s home, no other setting has more influence on a child’s health and well-being than their school. The in-person school environment does the following:
provides educational instruction;
supports the development of social and emotional skills;
creates a safe environment for learning;
addresses nutritional needs; and
facilitates physical activity.
This paper discusses each of these critical functions, following a brief summary of current studies regarding COVID-19 and children.
COVID-19 and Children
The best available evidence indicates that COVID-19 poses relatively low risks to school-aged children. Children appear to be at lower risk for contracting COVID-19 compared to adults. To put this in perspective, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), as of July 17, 2020, the United States reported that children and adolescents under 18 years old account for under 7 percent of COVID-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of COVID-19-related deaths.[5] Although relatively rare, flu-related deaths in children occur every year. From 2004-2005 to 2018-2019, flu-related deaths in children reported to CDC during regular flu seasons ranged from 37 to 187 deaths. During the H1N1pandemic (April 15, 2009 to October 2, 2010), 358 pediatric deaths were reported to CDC. So far in this pandemic, deaths of children are less than in each of the last five flu seasons, with only 64.† Additionally, some children with certain underlying medical conditions, however, are at increased risk of severe illness from COVID-19.*
Scientific studies suggest that COVID-19 transmission among children in schools may be low. International studies that have assessed how readily COVID-19 spreads in schools also reveal low rates of transmission when community transmission is low. Based on current data, the rate of infection among younger school children, and from students to teachers, has been low, especially if proper precautions are followed. There have also been few reports of children being the primary source of COVID-19 transmission among family members.[6],[7],[8] This is consistent with data from both virus and antibody testing, suggesting that children are not the primary drivers of COVID-19 spread in schools or in the community.[9],[10],[11] No studies are conclusive, but the available evidence provides reason to believe that in-person schooling is in the best interest of students, particularly in the context of appropriate mitigation measures similar to those implemented at essential workplaces.
Educational Instruction
Extended school closure is harmful to children. It can lead to severe learning loss, and the need for in-person instruction is particularly important for students with heightened behavioral needs.[12],[13] Following the wave of school closures in March 2020 due to COVID-19, academic learning slowed for most children and stopped for some. A survey of 477 school districts by the University of Washington’s Center on Reinventing Public Education found that, “far too many schools are leaving learning to chance.”[13] Just one in three school districts expected teachers to provide instruction, track student engagement, or monitor academic progress for all students, and wealthy school districts were twice as likely to have such expectations compared to low-income districts.[13]
We also know that, for many students, long breaks from in-person education are harmful to student learning. For example, the effects of summer breaks from in-person schooling on academic progress, known as “summer slide,” are also well-documented in the literature. According to the Northwest Evaluation Association, in the summer following third grade, students lose nearly 20 percent of their school-year gains in reading and 27 percent of their school-year gains in math.[14] By the summer after seventh grade, students lose on average 39 percent of their school-year gains in reading and 50 percent of their school-year gains in math.[14] This indicates that learning losses are large and become even more severe as a student progresses through school. The prospect of losing several months of schooling, compared to the few weeks of summer vacation, due to school closure likely only makes the learning loss even more severe.
Disparities in educational outcomes caused by school closures are a particular concern for low-income and minority students and students with disabilities. Many low-income families do not have the capacity to facilitate distance learning (e.g. limited or no computer access, limited or no internet access), and may have to rely on school-based services that support their child’s academic success. A study by researchers at Brown and Harvard Universities assessed how 800,000 students used Zearn, an online math program, both before and after schools closed in March 2020.[15] Data showed that through late April, student progress in math decreased by about half, with the negative impact more pronounced in low-income zip codes.[15] Persistent achievement gaps that already existed before COVID-19, such as disparities across income levels and races, can worsen and cause serious, hard-to-repair damage to children’s education outcomes.[15],[16] Finally, remote learning makes absorbing information more difficult for students with disabilities, developmental delays, or other cognitive disabilities. In particular, students who are deaf, hard of hearing, have low vision, are blind, or have other learning disorders (e.g., attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)) and other physical and mental disabilities have had significant difficulties with remote learning.[17]
Social and Emotional Skill Development
Schools play a critical role in supporting the whole child, not just their academic achievement. In addition to a structure for learning, schools provide a stable and secure environment for developing social skills and peer relationships. Social interaction at school among children in grades PK-12 is particularly important for the development of language, communication, social, emotional, and interpersonal skills.[18]
Extended school closures are harmful to children’s development of social and emotional skills. Important social interactions that facilitate the development of critical social and emotional skills are greatly curtailed or limited when students are not physically in school. In an in-person school environment, children more easily learn how to develop and maintain friendships, how to behave in groups, and how to interact and form relationships with people outside of their family. In school, students are also able to access support systems needed to recognize and manage emotions, set and achieve positive goals, appreciate others’ perspectives, and make responsible decisions. This helps reinforce children’s feelings of school connectedness, or their belief that teachers and other adults at school care about them and their well-being. Such routine in-person contacts provide opportunities to facilitate social-emotional development that are difficult, if not impossible, to replicate through distance learning.[18],[19],[20]
Additionally, extended closures can be harmful to children’s mental health and can increase the likelihood that children engage in unhealthy behaviors. An environment where students feel safe and connected, such as a school, is associated with lower levels of depression, thoughts about suicide, social anxiety, and sexual activity, as well as higher levels of self-esteem and more adaptive use of free time [19],[20] A longitudinal study of 476 adolescents over 3 years starting in the 6th grade found school connectedness to be especially protective for those who had lower connectedness in other areas of their lives, such as home, and to reduce their likelihood of substance use.[20]
Further, a review of studies conducted on pandemics found a strong association between length of quarantine and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder symptoms, avoidance behavior, and anger. Another review published this year found that post-traumatic stress scores of children and parents in quarantine were four times higher than those not quarantined.[21],[22]
In-person schooling provides children with access to a variety of mental health and social services, including speech language therapy, and physical or occupational therapy to help the physical, psychological, and academic well-being of the child.[23], [24],[25],[26] Further, school counselors are trained in the mental health needs of children and youth and can recognize signs of trauma that primary caregivers are less able to see because they themselves are experiencing the same family stresses. School counselors can then coordinate with teachers to implement interventions to offer children a reassuring environment for regaining the sense of order, security, and normalcy.
Without in-person schooling, many children can lose access to these important services. For example, we know that, even outside the context of school closures, children often do not receive the mental health treatment they need. Among children ages 9-17, it is estimated that 21 percent, or more than 14 million children, experience some type of mental health condition.[27] Yet only 16 percent of those with a condition receive any treatment.[23] Of those, 70-80 percent received such care in a school setting.[23] School closures can be particularly damaging for the 7.4 million American children suffering from a serious emotional disturbance. For those individuals who have a diagnosable mental, behavioral or emotional condition that substantially interferes with or limits their social functioning, schools play an integral role in linking them to care and necessary support services.
For children with intellectual or physical disabilities, nearly all therapies and services are received through schools. These vital services are difficult to provide through distance learning models. As a result, more children with disabilities have received few to no services while schools have been closed.
Safety
Extended school closures deprive children who live in unsafe homes and neighborhoods of an important layer of protection from neglect as well as physical, sexual, and emotional maltreatment and abuse. A 2018 Department of Health and Human Services report found that teachers and other educational staff were responsible for more than one-fifth of all reported child abuse cases—more than any other category of reporter.[28] During the COVID-19 school closures, however, there has been a sharp decline in reports of suspected maltreatment, but tragically a notable increase in evidence of abuse when children are seen for services. For example, the Washington, D.C. Child and Family Services Agency recorded a 62 percent decrease in child abuse reporting calls between mid-March and April 2020 compared to the same time period in 2019, but saw more severe presentation of child abuse cases in emergency rooms.[29] Children who live in a home or neighborhood where neglect, violence, or abuse occur, but who are not physically in school, are deprived of access to trained school professionals who can readily identify the signs of trauma and provide needed support and guidance.[30],[31],[32],[33],[34]
Nutrition
Extended school closures can be harmful to the nutritional health of children. Schools are essential to meeting the nutritional needs of children with many consuming up to half their daily calories at school. Nationwide more than 30 million children participate in the National School Lunch Program and nearly 15 million participate in the School Breakfast Program.[35],[36] For children from low-income families, school meals are an especially critical source of affordable, healthy foods. While schools have implemented strategies to continue meal services throughout periods of school closures, it is difficult to maintain this type of school nutrition program over the long-term. This is a particularly severe problem for the estimated 11 million food-insecure children, living in the United States.
Physical Activity
When schools are closed, children lose access to important opportunities for physical activity. Many children may not be sufficiently physically active outside of the context of in-school physical education (PE) and other school-based activities. Beyond PE, with schools closed, children may not have sufficient opportunities to participate in organized and safe physical activity. They also lose access to other school-based physical activities, including recess, classroom engagements, and after school programs.
The loss of opportunities for physical activity from school closures, especially when coupled with potentially diminished nutrition, can be particularly harmful to children. Physical inactivity and poor nutrition among children are major risk factors for childhood obesity and other chronic health conditions. Over 75 percent of children and adolescents in the United States do not meet the daily physical activity level recommendations (60 minutes or more), and nearly half exceed 2 hours per day in sedentary behavior. Current models estimate that childhood obesity rate may increase by 2.4 percent if school closures continue to December 2020.[37],[38],[39]
Conclusion
Schools are an important part of the infrastructure of our communities, as they provide safe, supportive learning environments for students, employ teachers and other staff, and enable parents, guardians, and caregivers to work. Schools also provide critical services that help meet the needs of children and families, especially those who are disadvantaged, through supporting the development of social and emotional skills, creating a safe environment for learning, identifying and addressing neglect and abuse, fulfilling nutritional needs, and facilitating physical activity. School closure disrupts the delivery of in-person instruction and critical services to children and families, which has negative individual and societal ramifications. The best available evidence from countries that have opened schools indicates that COVID-19 poses low risks to school-aged children, at least in areas with low community transmission, and suggests that children are unlikely to be major drivers of the spread of the virus. Reopening schools creates opportunity to invest in the education, well-being, and future of one of America’s greatest assets—our children—while taking every precaution to protect students, teachers, staff and all their families.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html
The economist makes some decent arguments as well, you may find it a good read.
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/07/18/the-risks-of-keeping-schools-closed-far-outweigh-the-benefits
RandomGuy
07-24-2020, 09:28 AM
Wait. We haven't even started school, right?
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Not yet.
School in just about every district in Texas is going to be distance learning.
The economist makes some decent arguments as well, you may find it a good read.
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/07/18/the-risks-of-keeping-schools-closed-far-outweigh-the-benefits
I came across that article earlier and couldn't read it without a subscription. Do you mind posting the entire thing? thanks.
spurraider21
07-24-2020, 10:24 AM
I came across that article earlier and couldn't read it without a subscription. Do you mind posting the entire thing? thanks.
sometimes these sites are sloppy and have a 1-2 second delay before the paywall pops up. when i encounter sites like that, i reload the URL and quickly snipe Cntrl+A, and Cntrl+C to copy all the content, then dump it into a word doc or pastebin or some shit, and you can read it that way
https://pastebin.com/SXBUvfZ4
wapo paywall is bypassed when incognito. NYT, not so much
sometimes these sites are sloppy and have a 1-2 second delay before the paywall pops up. when i encounter sites like that, i reload the URL and quickly snipe Cntrl+A, and Cntrl+C to copy all the content, then dump it into a word doc or pastebin or some shit, and you can read it that way
https://pastebin.com/SXBUvfZ4
wapo paywall is bypassed when incognito. NYT, not so much
:bobo
RandomGuy
07-24-2020, 10:30 AM
I came across that article earlier and couldn't read it without a subscription. Do you mind posting the entire thing? thanks.
Let them learn
The risks of keeping schools closed far outweigh the benefits
Millions of young minds are going to waste
All around the world, children’s minds are going to waste. As covid-19 surged in early April, more than 90% of pupils were shut out of school. Since then the number has fallen by one-third, as many classrooms in Europe and East Asia have reopened. But elsewhere progress is slow. Some American school districts, including Los Angeles and San Diego, plan to offer only remote learning when their new school year begins. Kenya’s government has scrapped the whole year, leaving its children idle until January. In the Philippines President Rodrigo Duterte says he may not let any children return to the classroom until a vaccine is found. South Africa has reopened casinos, but only a fraction of classrooms.
Many parents are understandably scared. Covid-19 is new, and poorly understood. Schools are big and crowded. Small children will not observe social distancing. Caution is appropriate, especially when cases are rising. But as we have argued before, the benefits of reopening schools usually outweigh the costs.
The new coronavirus poses a low risk to children. Studies suggest that under-18s are a third to a half less likely to catch the disease. Those under ten, according to British figures, are a thousand times less likely to die than someone aged between 70 and 79. The evidence suggests they are not especially likely to infect others. In Sweden staff at nurseries and primary schools, which never closed, were no more likely to catch the virus than those in other jobs. A new study of 1,500 teenage pupils and 500 teachers who had gone back to school in Germany in May found that only 0.6% had antibodies to the virus, less than half the national rate found in other studies. Granted, an outbreak at a secondary school in Israel infected over 150 pupils and staff. But with precautions, the risk can be minimised.
However, the costs of missing school are huge. Children learn less, and lose the habit of learning. Zoom is a lousy substitute for classrooms. Poor children, who are less likely to have good Wi-Fi and educated parents, fall further behind their better-off peers. Parents who have nowhere to drop their children struggle to return to work. Mothers bear the heavier burden, and so suffer a bigger career setback. Children out of school are more likely to suffer abuse, malnutrition and poor mental health.
School closures are bad enough in rich countries. The harm they do in poor ones is much worse (see article). Perhaps 465m children being offered online classes cannot easily make use of them because they lack an internet connection. In parts of Africa and South Asia, families are in such dire straits that many parents are urging their children to give up their studies and start work or get married. The longer school is shut, the more will make this woeful choice. Save the Children, a charity, guesses that nearly 10m could drop out. Most will be girls.
Education is the surest path out of poverty. Depriving children of it will doom them to poorer, shorter, less fulfilling lives. The World Bank estimates that five months of school closures would cut lifetime earnings for the children who are affected by $10trn in today’s money, equivalent to 7% of current annual gdp.
With such catastrophic potential losses, governments should be working out how to reopen schools as soon as it is safe. This should not be a partisan issue, as it has sadly become in America, where some people assume it is a bad idea simply because President Donald Trump proposes it. In some countries teachers’ unions have been obstructive, partly out of justified concern for public health as cases climb, but also because teachers’ interests are not the same as children’s—especially if they are being paid whether they work or not. The main union in Los Angeles urges that schools remain closed until a long wishlist of demands has been met, including the elusive dream of universal health care in America. Children cannot wait that long.
Places that have restarted schooling, such as France, Denmark, China and New Zealand, offer tips for minimising the risks. They let the most vulnerable teachers stay at home. They commonly reduced class sizes, even though that meant many children could spend only part of the week with their teachers. They staggered timetables to prevent crowding in corridors, at school gates and in dinner halls. They required or encouraged masks. They boosted school-based testing and tracing. The Centres for Disease Control and Prevention has used these to draw up sober guidelines, which include measures such as separating desks by six feet (though the vice-president this week said that schools should feel free to ignore them).
European countries waited on average about 30 days after infections had peaked before they resumed some presence at school. Having started this way, many have since relaxed the rules to let most pupils return to school at the same time. There is no known experience of schools reopening in places where the virus was as prevalent as it is now in Arizona, Florida or Texas. Such places will have to bring the virus under control before the new term begins. This probably means that not all children will be able to go back full-time even then. But a few days a week with a teacher are better than none. And, as in Europe, schools can open up more as covid-19 recedes.
The trade-offs in the global South are even harder. Only a quarter of schools in the poorest countries have soap and running water for handwashing. However, schools in such places are also where pupils are often fed and vaccinated. Closing them makes children more vulnerable to hunger and measles, and this risk almost certainly outweighs that of covid-19. The prudent course for poor-country governments is therefore to act boldly. Face down unions and reopen schools. Conduct loud re-enrolment campaigns, aimed especially at girls. Offer small cash transfers or gifts (such as masks or pens) to ease parents’ worries about the costs of getting their offspring back to class.
Reopening the world’s schools safely will not be cheap. Besides billions of bottles of hand sanitiser, it will require careful organisation, flexible schedules and assistance for those who have fallen behind to catch up. It will cost taxpayers money, but taxpayers are often parents, too. Rich countries should help poor ones with some of the costs. Steep as these will be, they are nothing like the costs of letting the largest generation in human history grow up in ignorance.
EUROPE
The EU’s leaders have agreed on a €750bn covid-19 recovery package
LEADERS
With oil cheap, Arab states cannot balance their books
This article appeared in the Leaders section of the print edition under the headline "Let them learn"
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RandomGuy
07-24-2020, 10:37 AM
There is no known experience of schools reopening in places where the virus was as prevalent as it is now in Arizona, Florida or Texas. Such places will have to bring the virus under control before the new term begins. This probably means that not all children will be able to go back full-time even then. But a few days a week with a teacher are better than none. And, as in Europe, schools can open up more as covid-19 recedes.
As I have noted before, I am not against schools opening per se. There are very good arguments for getting them back in.
BUT
You need some solid risk mitigation strategies. I am somewhat doubtful teenagers will have enough mask discipline to make that work, but the longer they stay closed the greater the harm.
Get control of the virus, and open the schools, especially for younger kids. Have a plan to protect the adults that work there.
Few Republican governors have acted in a responsible fashion though, to get the virus under control, and many are actively fighting measures that localities have implemented that would do something.
(shrugs) They will have to answer to voters as this drags on, and they keep ignoring the science for the sake of fucktarded identity politics.
This entire episode simply demonstrates in a very concrete way why Republicans can't really be trusted with governments. Its like handing car keys to drunks.
As I have noted before, I am not against schools opening per se. There are very good arguments for getting them back in.
BUT
You need some solid risk mitigation strategies. I am somewhat doubtful teenagers will have enough mask discipline to make that work, but the longer they stay closed the greater the harm.
Get control of the virus, and open the schools, especially for younger kids. Have a plan to protect the adults that work there.
Few Republican governors have acted in a responsible fashion though, to get the virus under control, and many are actively fighting measures that localities have implemented that would do something.
(shrugs) They will have to answer to voters as this drags on, and they keep ignoring the science for the sake of fucktarded identity politics.
This entire episode simply demonstrates in a very concrete way why Republicans can't really be trusted with governments. Its like handing car keys to drunks.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/
Blake
07-24-2020, 10:57 AM
"...School officials should make decisions about school reopening based on available data including levels of community transmission and their capacity to implement appropriate mitigation measures in schools. ..."
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/prepare-safe-return.html
Winehole23
07-24-2020, 10:58 AM
Why not bring his Portland Schutzstaffel for security?Private contractors are cheaper and provide a degree of plausible deniability for fuck ups.
Blake
07-24-2020, 11:04 AM
"....If there is substantial, uncontrolled transmission, schools should work closely with local health officials to make decisions on whether to maintain school operations. The health, safety, and wellbeing of students, teachers, staff and their families is the most important consideration in determining whether school closure is a necessary step. Communities can support schools staying open by implementing strategies that decrease a community’s level of transmission. However, if community transmission levels cannot be decreased, school closure is an important consideration. Plans for virtual learning should be in place in the event of a school closure..."
The economist makes some decent arguments as well, you may find it a good read.
https://www.economist.com/leaders/2020/07/18/the-risks-of-keeping-schools-closed-far-outweigh-the-benefits
Thanks for sharing this. Basically the same arguments I've been making but since they are now coming from the economist you think they are decent :lol
Winehole23
07-24-2020, 11:12 AM
The Importance of Reopening America’s Schools this Fall
As families and policymakers make decisions about their children returning to school, it is important to consider the full spectrum of benefits and risks of both in-person and virtual learning options. Parents are understandably concerned about the safety of their children at school in the wake of COVID-19. The best available evidence indicates if children become infected, they are far less likely to suffer severe symptoms.[1],[2],[3] Death rates among school-aged children are much lower than among adults. At the same time, the harms attributed to closed schools on the social, emotional, and behavioral health, economic well-being, and academic achievement of children, in both the short- and long-term, are well-known and significant. Further, the lack of in-person educational options disproportionately harms low-income and minority children and those living with disabilities. These students are far less likely to have access to private instruction and care and far more likely to rely on key school-supported resources like food programs, special education services, counseling, and after-school programs to meet basic developmental needs.[4]
Aside from a child’s home, no other setting has more influence on a child’s health and well-being than their school. The in-person school environment does the following:
provides educational instruction;
supports the development of social and emotional skills;
creates a safe environment for learning;
addresses nutritional needs; and
facilitates physical activity.
This paper discusses each of these critical functions, following a brief summary of current studies regarding COVID-19 and children.
COVID-19 and Children
The best available evidence indicates that COVID-19 poses relatively low risks to school-aged children. Children appear to be at lower risk for contracting COVID-19 compared to adults. To put this in perspective, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), as of July 17, 2020, the United States reported that children and adolescents under 18 years old account for under 7 percent of COVID-19 cases and less than 0.1 percent of COVID-19-related deaths.[5] Although relatively rare, flu-related deaths in children occur every year. From 2004-2005 to 2018-2019, flu-related deaths in children reported to CDC during regular flu seasons ranged from 37 to 187 deaths. During the H1N1pandemic (April 15, 2009 to October 2, 2010), 358 pediatric deaths were reported to CDC. So far in this pandemic, deaths of children are less than in each of the last five flu seasons, with only 64.† Additionally, some children with certain underlying medical conditions, however, are at increased risk of severe illness from COVID-19.*
Scientific studies suggest that COVID-19 transmission among children in schools may be low. International studies that have assessed how readily COVID-19 spreads in schools also reveal low rates of transmission when community transmission is low. Based on current data, the rate of infection among younger school children, and from students to teachers, has been low, especially if proper precautions are followed. There have also been few reports of children being the primary source of COVID-19 transmission among family members.[6],[7],[8] This is consistent with data from both virus and antibody testing, suggesting that children are not the primary drivers of COVID-19 spread in schools or in the community.[9],[10],[11] No studies are conclusive, but the available evidence provides reason to believe that in-person schooling is in the best interest of students, particularly in the context of appropriate mitigation measures similar to those implemented at essential workplaces.
Educational Instruction
Extended school closure is harmful to children. It can lead to severe learning loss, and the need for in-person instruction is particularly important for students with heightened behavioral needs.[12],[13] Following the wave of school closures in March 2020 due to COVID-19, academic learning slowed for most children and stopped for some. A survey of 477 school districts by the University of Washington’s Center on Reinventing Public Education found that, “far too many schools are leaving learning to chance.”[13] Just one in three school districts expected teachers to provide instruction, track student engagement, or monitor academic progress for all students, and wealthy school districts were twice as likely to have such expectations compared to low-income districts.[13]
We also know that, for many students, long breaks from in-person education are harmful to student learning. For example, the effects of summer breaks from in-person schooling on academic progress, known as “summer slide,” are also well-documented in the literature. According to the Northwest Evaluation Association, in the summer following third grade, students lose nearly 20 percent of their school-year gains in reading and 27 percent of their school-year gains in math.[14] By the summer after seventh grade, students lose on average 39 percent of their school-year gains in reading and 50 percent of their school-year gains in math.[14] This indicates that learning losses are large and become even more severe as a student progresses through school. The prospect of losing several months of schooling, compared to the few weeks of summer vacation, due to school closure likely only makes the learning loss even more severe.
Disparities in educational outcomes caused by school closures are a particular concern for low-income and minority students and students with disabilities. Many low-income families do not have the capacity to facilitate distance learning (e.g. limited or no computer access, limited or no internet access), and may have to rely on school-based services that support their child’s academic success. A study by researchers at Brown and Harvard Universities assessed how 800,000 students used Zearn, an online math program, both before and after schools closed in March 2020.[15] Data showed that through late April, student progress in math decreased by about half, with the negative impact more pronounced in low-income zip codes.[15] Persistent achievement gaps that already existed before COVID-19, such as disparities across income levels and races, can worsen and cause serious, hard-to-repair damage to children’s education outcomes.[15],[16] Finally, remote learning makes absorbing information more difficult for students with disabilities, developmental delays, or other cognitive disabilities. In particular, students who are deaf, hard of hearing, have low vision, are blind, or have other learning disorders (e.g., attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD)) and other physical and mental disabilities have had significant difficulties with remote learning.[17]
Social and Emotional Skill Development
Schools play a critical role in supporting the whole child, not just their academic achievement. In addition to a structure for learning, schools provide a stable and secure environment for developing social skills and peer relationships. Social interaction at school among children in grades PK-12 is particularly important for the development of language, communication, social, emotional, and interpersonal skills.[18]
Extended school closures are harmful to children’s development of social and emotional skills. Important social interactions that facilitate the development of critical social and emotional skills are greatly curtailed or limited when students are not physically in school. In an in-person school environment, children more easily learn how to develop and maintain friendships, how to behave in groups, and how to interact and form relationships with people outside of their family. In school, students are also able to access support systems needed to recognize and manage emotions, set and achieve positive goals, appreciate others’ perspectives, and make responsible decisions. This helps reinforce children’s feelings of school connectedness, or their belief that teachers and other adults at school care about them and their well-being. Such routine in-person contacts provide opportunities to facilitate social-emotional development that are difficult, if not impossible, to replicate through distance learning.[18],[19],[20]
Additionally, extended closures can be harmful to children’s mental health and can increase the likelihood that children engage in unhealthy behaviors. An environment where students feel safe and connected, such as a school, is associated with lower levels of depression, thoughts about suicide, social anxiety, and sexual activity, as well as higher levels of self-esteem and more adaptive use of free time [19],[20] A longitudinal study of 476 adolescents over 3 years starting in the 6th grade found school connectedness to be especially protective for those who had lower connectedness in other areas of their lives, such as home, and to reduce their likelihood of substance use.[20]
Further, a review of studies conducted on pandemics found a strong association between length of quarantine and Post Traumatic Stress Disorder symptoms, avoidance behavior, and anger. Another review published this year found that post-traumatic stress scores of children and parents in quarantine were four times higher than those not quarantined.[21],[22]
In-person schooling provides children with access to a variety of mental health and social services, including speech language therapy, and physical or occupational therapy to help the physical, psychological, and academic well-being of the child.[23], [24],[25],[26] Further, school counselors are trained in the mental health needs of children and youth and can recognize signs of trauma that primary caregivers are less able to see because they themselves are experiencing the same family stresses. School counselors can then coordinate with teachers to implement interventions to offer children a reassuring environment for regaining the sense of order, security, and normalcy.
Without in-person schooling, many children can lose access to these important services. For example, we know that, even outside the context of school closures, children often do not receive the mental health treatment they need. Among children ages 9-17, it is estimated that 21 percent, or more than 14 million children, experience some type of mental health condition.[27] Yet only 16 percent of those with a condition receive any treatment.[23] Of those, 70-80 percent received such care in a school setting.[23] School closures can be particularly damaging for the 7.4 million American children suffering from a serious emotional disturbance. For those individuals who have a diagnosable mental, behavioral or emotional condition that substantially interferes with or limits their social functioning, schools play an integral role in linking them to care and necessary support services.
For children with intellectual or physical disabilities, nearly all therapies and services are received through schools. These vital services are difficult to provide through distance learning models. As a result, more children with disabilities have received few to no services while schools have been closed.
Safety
Extended school closures deprive children who live in unsafe homes and neighborhoods of an important layer of protection from neglect as well as physical, sexual, and emotional maltreatment and abuse. A 2018 Department of Health and Human Services report found that teachers and other educational staff were responsible for more than one-fifth of all reported child abuse cases—more than any other category of reporter.[28] During the COVID-19 school closures, however, there has been a sharp decline in reports of suspected maltreatment, but tragically a notable increase in evidence of abuse when children are seen for services. For example, the Washington, D.C. Child and Family Services Agency recorded a 62 percent decrease in child abuse reporting calls between mid-March and April 2020 compared to the same time period in 2019, but saw more severe presentation of child abuse cases in emergency rooms.[29] Children who live in a home or neighborhood where neglect, violence, or abuse occur, but who are not physically in school, are deprived of access to trained school professionals who can readily identify the signs of trauma and provide needed support and guidance.[30],[31],[32],[33],[34]
Nutrition
Extended school closures can be harmful to the nutritional health of children. Schools are essential to meeting the nutritional needs of children with many consuming up to half their daily calories at school. Nationwide more than 30 million children participate in the National School Lunch Program and nearly 15 million participate in the School Breakfast Program.[35],[36] For children from low-income families, school meals are an especially critical source of affordable, healthy foods. While schools have implemented strategies to continue meal services throughout periods of school closures, it is difficult to maintain this type of school nutrition program over the long-term. This is a particularly severe problem for the estimated 11 million food-insecure children, living in the United States.
Physical Activity
When schools are closed, children lose access to important opportunities for physical activity. Many children may not be sufficiently physically active outside of the context of in-school physical education (PE) and other school-based activities. Beyond PE, with schools closed, children may not have sufficient opportunities to participate in organized and safe physical activity. They also lose access to other school-based physical activities, including recess, classroom engagements, and after school programs.
The loss of opportunities for physical activity from school closures, especially when coupled with potentially diminished nutrition, can be particularly harmful to children. Physical inactivity and poor nutrition among children are major risk factors for childhood obesity and other chronic health conditions. Over 75 percent of children and adolescents in the United States do not meet the daily physical activity level recommendations (60 minutes or more), and nearly half exceed 2 hours per day in sedentary behavior. Current models estimate that childhood obesity rate may increase by 2.4 percent if school closures continue to December 2020.[37],[38],[39]
Conclusion
Schools are an important part of the infrastructure of our communities, as they provide safe, supportive learning environments for students, employ teachers and other staff, and enable parents, guardians, and caregivers to work. Schools also provide critical services that help meet the needs of children and families, especially those who are disadvantaged, through supporting the development of social and emotional skills, creating a safe environment for learning, identifying and addressing neglect and abuse, fulfilling nutritional needs, and facilitating physical activity. School closure disrupts the delivery of in-person instruction and critical services to children and families, which has negative individual and societal ramifications. The best available evidence from countries that have opened schools indicates that COVID-19 poses low risks to school-aged children, at least in areas with low community transmission, and suggests that children are unlikely to be major drivers of the spread of the virus. Reopening schools creates opportunity to invest in the education, well-being, and future of one of America’s greatest assets—our children—while taking every precaution to protect students, teachers, staff and all their families.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.htmlA panegyric on reopening instead of real guidelines, I'm sure the schools appreciate the gentle encouragement.
A panegyric on reopening instead of real guidelines, I'm sure the schools appreciate the gentle encouragement.
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/prepare-safe-return.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/schools.html
boutons_deux
07-24-2020, 11:58 AM
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/prepare-safe-return.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/schools.html
EVERYTHING from Trash's compromised, lackey-polluted, politicized CDC is suspect
boutons_deux
07-24-2020, 12:00 PM
There's a reason Donald Trump is 'comfortable' sending his son back to school (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/23/1963204/-Reopening-schools-in-the-middle-of-a-pandemic-is-an-idea-by-rich-white-people-for-rich-white-people)
Baron Trump attends St. Andrew's Episcopal School in Maryland.
The number of kids in his grade is approximately 40.
The average number of students in a classroom is … 11.
It’s not hard to believe that St. Andrew's—enrollment $40,650 per year—is well-positioned to take extraordinary precautions regarding COVID-19.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/23/1963204/-Reopening-schools-in-the-middle-of-a-pandemic-is-an-idea-by-rich-white-people-for-rich-white-people?detail=emaildkre
Winehole23
07-24-2020, 12:06 PM
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/prepare-safe-return.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/schools.htmlThe CDC trusts cities, counties and states to make the right determination; CDC was prevented from introducing technical curbs to reopening, Mike Pence was very open about this. The links you posted were drafted swiftly to mollify political higher ups, the faintly hortatory, somewhat breezy and philosophical tone gives it away as propaganda.
It's startling how quickly Trump trashed the credibility and reliability of the CDC, turning it into yet another cog in the Trump political shop.
Economic depression and avoidable mass death will take their toll, maybe someday partisans like you will demand solutions from their leaders instead excusing their failures.
clambake
07-24-2020, 12:35 PM
A Florida scientist has filed a whistleblower lawsuit for not fudging the data. Fired for not lying.
Need to fast track this suit.
boutons_deux
07-24-2020, 01:02 PM
As Trump Calls for Schools to Fully Reopen, His Son’s School Says It Will Not
St. Andrew’s Episcopal School, the private school in the Maryland suburbs attended by Barron Trump, said
it was considering either a hybrid part-time plan or
going back to entirely online classes.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/23/us/politics/barron-trump-school-coronavirus.html?fbclid=IwAR1En8JI35pteC8IkfJWIhgJ 7Kz3qOsCVaAk9jTf1SEIB8h8xlAEAfpU8Jc
Blake
07-24-2020, 01:10 PM
"Members of a leading group of infectious disease experts warned Thursday against reopening schools in Florida, Texas and other states where coronavirus cases are surging, saying older children are just as likely to spread Covid-19 as adults.
"The simple answer is no," Dr. Tina Tan, a professor of pediatrics at Northwestern University, said when asked whether she would suggest reopening schools in states such as Florida, Texas, California and Arizona in the near future.
""When you have such surges of disease in the community, you're basically asking for trouble if you open schools, because you're bringing in individuals from all across the community that potentially may be exposed to it," Tan said on a conference call hosted by the Infectious Disease Society of America.
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/23/coronavirus-infectious-disease-experts-warn-against-reopening-schools-in-florida-texas.html
https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1286634924599054336
Blake
07-24-2020, 02:18 PM
https://twitter.com/BallouxFrancois/status/1286634924599054336
"bioRxiv is receiving many new papers on coronavirus SARS-CoV-2. A reminder: these are preliminary reports that have not been peer-reviewed. They should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or be reported in news media as established information."
Smh
ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 02:47 PM
I understand the benefits of school for the kids. Over 600 adults in AISD are under quarantine orders and school hasn't even started.
If that happens when school is actually in session, who's going to teach and run the schools?
Blake
07-24-2020, 03:03 PM
I understand the benefits of school for the kids. Over 600 adults in AISD are under quarantine orders and school hasn't even started.
If that happens when school is actually in session, who's going to teach and run the schools?
I think we all get benefits of school for so many families and kids for so many reasons.
But that question "what about the school staff?" always seems to get swept under the carpet or given the "what about Walmart workers?" treatment.
I guess the school districts pushing forward will be the guinea pigs
I think we all get benefits of school for so many families and kids for so many reasons.
But that question "what about the school staff?" always seems to get swept under the carpet or given the "what about Walmart workers?" treatment.
I guess the school districts pushing forward will be the guinea pigs
That'd be the dental hygenists who are out there cleaning our teeth.
ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 03:12 PM
That'd be the dental hygenists who are out there cleaning our teeth.Nah, it's pretty clear what PPE would work for them.
Nah, it's pretty clear what PPE would work for them.
And teachers can't wear masks (and shields if they are at high risk)?
Blake
07-24-2020, 03:25 PM
That'd be the dental hygenists who are out there cleaning our teeth.
HA HA THAT WAS A GOOD ONE
Blake
07-24-2020, 03:27 PM
And teachers can't wear masks (and shields if they are at high risk)?
And back to the beginning of why we need masks. Smh
HA HA THAT WAS A GOOD ONE
What's so funny? Aren't Texan dentist offices open?
Blake
07-24-2020, 03:29 PM
What's so funny? Aren't Texan dentist offices open?
failed whataboutisms are hilarious
leemajors
07-24-2020, 03:36 PM
What's so funny? Aren't Texan dentist offices open?
I forgot about the hundreds of people packed into dental offices in Texas that were already overcrowded before social distancing was important.
ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 03:44 PM
And teachers can't wear masks (and shields if they are at high risk)?Do hygienists in Florida treat 30 patients at once for six hours?
"bioRxiv is receiving many new papers on coronavirus SARS-CoV-2. A reminder: these are preliminary reports that have not been peer-reviewed. They should not be regarded as conclusive, guide clinical practice/health-related behavior, or be reported in news media as established information."
Smh
No shit...it literally says preprint in the tweet. But continue on pointing this out on every preprint study I post and while staying silent while others post the same, it makes me laugh to know you are still this butthurt that I called you out for starting an entirely new thread on herd immunity based on a single anecdote from single doctor and his one patient :rollin
Blake
07-24-2020, 04:14 PM
No shit...it literally says preprint in the tweet. But continue on pointing this out on every preprint study I post and while staying silent while others post the same, it makes me laugh to know you are still this butthurt that I called you out for starting an entirely new thread on herd immunity based on a single anecdote from single doctor and his one patient :rollin
Right now I prefer front line anecdotes from doctors over non-peer reviewed reports. You do you.
Right now I prefer front line anecdotes from doctors over non-peer reviewed reports. You do you.
:lmao
ElNono
07-24-2020, 04:49 PM
I think the CDC should have a baseline spec for reopening (ie: at most X number of cases in the last month, etc), in order to dissuade governors like Deathrow DeSantis, but leave the granular details to the States...
Blake
07-24-2020, 05:44 PM
:lmao
Hey remember that time you retweeted gummi? That was funny too
ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 05:45 PM
I think the CDC should have a baseline spec for reopening (ie: at most X number of cases in the last month, etc), in order to dissuade governors like Deathrow DeSantis, but leave the granular details to the States...Nonsense. Get out there and die for Republican re-election chances already.
Blake
07-24-2020, 05:52 PM
"One of Abbott's top medical advisers said Thursday more must be done to slow the spread of the virus, including greater enforcement of statewide orders and more flexibility for local governments to implement and enforce their own, more restrictive orders.
"It's not enough to just stop the growth in cases at this very high level," Dr. Mark McClellan, a former U.S. Food and Drug Administration commissioner and one of three outside health experts advising Abbott on reopening the state's economy, told the American-Statesman. "It's a very difficult situation for health care organizations. It makes it hard — if not impossible — to reopen schools. Further steps are needed, hopefully through more people wearing masks and following the guidelines, but more steps are needed to get the cases down."
https://www.statesman.com/news/20200724/texas-has-reached-coronavirus-plateau-is-that-good-enough
BALONEY. LOOK AT SWEDEN
Hey remember that time you retweeted gummi? That was funny too
What was funny
tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:18 PM
blake didn't know how ny schools were opening but gossiped about it.
ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 07:19 PM
blake didn't know how ny schools were opening but gossiped about it.Wrong.
tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:20 PM
Wrong.
no thats 100 percent correct f5
ChumpDumper
07-24-2020, 07:20 PM
no thats 100 percent correct f5Wrong.
Blake
07-24-2020, 07:38 PM
no thats 100 percent correct f5
Lies
tholdren
07-24-2020, 07:51 PM
Blake lying about blake lying
Lolololo
Blake
07-25-2020, 05:03 AM
"DALLAS — Dallas County officials announced Friday that 29 children have been hospitalized for COVID-19 during the first three weeks of July.
Over 1,450 children under 18 years old have been diagnosed with confirmed COVID-19 during that same time frame, officials announced.
A 5-year-old boy is the youngest to die in Dallas County in the COVID-19 pandemic. He had been critically ill in a hospital and had underlying health risk conditions, officials said Friday...."
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/dallas-county-reports-29-children-hospitalized-for-covid-19-cdc-releases-new-info-on-opening-schools/287-cc1092c7-adcd-4128-8a99-3af45c5e6745
Winehole23
07-25-2020, 05:27 AM
"DALLAS — Dallas County officials announced Friday that 29 children have been hospitalized for COVID-19 during the first three weeks of July.
Over 1,450 children under 18 years old have been diagnosed with confirmed COVID-19 during that same time frame, officials announced.
A 5-year-old boy is the youngest to die in Dallas County in the COVID-19 pandemic. He had been critically ill in a hospital and had underlying health risk conditions, officials said Friday...."
https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/health/coronavirus/dallas-county-reports-29-children-hospitalized-for-covid-19-cdc-releases-new-info-on-opening-schools/287-cc1092c7-adcd-4128-8a99-3af45c5e6745If there's going to be disregard for human life and human health let it not be some wishy washy half step, but full blown and wanton disregard.
Blake
07-25-2020, 08:04 PM
"Elisa Soliz lost her sister to the new coronavirus in late May and says at least nine other family members have tested positive. The 63-year-old school bus driver lives in Hidalgo County in the Rio Grande Valley — an area that’s been devastated by the pandemic.
In the weekend edition of The Brief podcast, listen to why Soliz says she’ll retire before subjecting herself to a busload of kids, many of whom lack access to health care...."
https://www.texastribune.org/2020/07/25/hidalgo-county-coronavirus-texas/
I'm sure they have plenty of substitute drivers lined up. No worries
baseline bum
07-25-2020, 08:55 PM
"One of Abbott's top medical advisers said Thursday more must be done to slow the spread of the virus, including greater enforcement of statewide orders and more flexibility for local governments to implement and enforce their own, more restrictive orders.
"It's not enough to just stop the growth in cases at this very high level," Dr. Mark McClellan, a former U.S. Food and Drug Administration commissioner and one of three outside health experts advising Abbott on reopening the state's economy, told the American-Statesman. "It's a very difficult situation for health care organizations. It makes it hard — if not impossible — to reopen schools. Further steps are needed, hopefully through more people wearing masks and following the guidelines, but more steps are needed to get the cases down."
https://www.statesman.com/news/20200724/texas-has-reached-coronavirus-plateau-is-that-good-enough
BALONEY. LOOK AT SWEDEN
Should ask Balous Miller where to go from here.
boutons_deux
07-26-2020, 03:20 PM
Teachers sue Florida governor for order to reopen schools in defiance of ‘basic human needs for health and safety’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/teachers-sue-florida-governor-for-order-to-reopen-schools-in-defiance-of-basic-human-needs-for-health-and-safety/
tholdren
07-26-2020, 03:21 PM
Teachers sue Florida governor for order to reopen schools in defiance of ‘basic human needs for health and safety’
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/07/teachers-sue-florida-governor-for-order-to-reopen-schools-in-defiance-of-basic-human-needs-for-health-and-safety/
Why aren't other schools in other countries having these problems?
boutons_deux
07-26-2020, 03:28 PM
CHILDREN CAN VERY DEFINITELY PASS COVID-19 TO OTHER CHILDREN AND TO ADULTS
a paper published in the most recent Emerging Infectious Diseases Journal (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-1315_article)at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) draws starkly different conclusions.
When adjusted for rates of contact,
risk of transmission was found to be higher for children than for adults.
In fact, school-aged children were the most likely source of infections in a household.
We also found the highest COVID-19 rate (18.6%) for household contacts of school-aged children and the lowest (5.3%) for household contacts of children 0–9 years in the middle of school closure.
That same study reinforces the information that other studies showing low rates of transmission among children “showed that
school closure and social distancing significantly reduced the rate of COVID-19 among contacts of school-aged children.”
In other words,
the low rates of transmission by children ...
was explicitly because of school closures and
the resulting reduced rate of contacts by children.
there are plenty of real-world examples.
Like in Kansas City (https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article244348157.html), where resuming summertime sport activities and teen parties has driven a spike in cases not just among teenagers, but in their families.
And in Cincinnati (https://www.wlwt.com/article/recent-covid-19-test-results-show-more-greater-cincinnati-teenagers-getting-infected/33384116#), where rates of positive tests for teenagers are up to 7% after just a few weeks of relaxed guidelines. Even kids under 10 are seeing 5% positive results.
All the evidence indicates that
teenagers can spread the disease just as well as adults (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/health/coronavirus-children-schools.html),
and there is really absolutely no reason to think the same thing is not true of younger children.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/23/1963133/-Reopening-the-schools-is-an-invitation-to-create-a-wholly-unnecessary-national-tragedy?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/23/1963133/-Reopening-the-schools-is-an-invitation-to-create-a-wholly-unnecessary-national-tragedy?detail=emaildkre)
ducks
07-26-2020, 04:20 PM
Many articles say opposite
tholdren
07-26-2020, 09:00 PM
CHILDREN CAN VERY DEFINITELY PASS COVID-19 TO OTHER CHILDREN AND TO ADULTS
a paper published in the most recent Emerging Infectious Diseases Journal (https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/10/20-1315_article)at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) draws starkly different conclusions.
When adjusted for rates of contact,
risk of transmission was found to be higher for children than for adults.
In fact, school-aged children were the most likely source of infections in a household.
We also found the highest COVID-19 rate (18.6%) for household contacts of school-aged children and the lowest (5.3%) for household contacts of children 0–9 years in the middle of school closure.
That same study reinforces the information that other studies showing low rates of transmission among children “showed that
school closure and social distancing significantly reduced the rate of COVID-19 among contacts of school-aged children.”
In other words,
the low rates of transmission by children ...
was explicitly because of school closures and
the resulting reduced rate of contacts by children.
there are plenty of real-world examples.
Like in Kansas City (https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article244348157.html), where resuming summertime sport activities and teen parties has driven a spike in cases not just among teenagers, but in their families.
And in Cincinnati (https://www.wlwt.com/article/recent-covid-19-test-results-show-more-greater-cincinnati-teenagers-getting-infected/33384116#), where rates of positive tests for teenagers are up to 7% after just a few weeks of relaxed guidelines. Even kids under 10 are seeing 5% positive results.
All the evidence indicates that
teenagers can spread the disease just as well as adults (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/18/health/coronavirus-children-schools.html),
and there is really absolutely no reason to think the same thing is not true of younger children.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/23/1963133/-Reopening-the-schools-is-an-invitation-to-create-a-wholly-unnecessary-national-tragedy?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/23/1963133/-Reopening-the-schools-is-an-invitation-to-create-a-wholly-unnecessary-national-tragedy?detail=emaildkre)
this is false
Blake
07-26-2020, 09:16 PM
this is false
But you're a liar and a nobody
Spurtacular
07-26-2020, 09:19 PM
But you're a liar and a nobody
Are you a truthful somebody cuckold?
Blake
07-26-2020, 09:20 PM
Are you a truthful somebody cuckold?
You're a liar and an ankle biter. That's the truth.
Spurtacular
07-26-2020, 09:25 PM
You're a liar and an ankle biter. That's the truth.
We can not even engage the already established cuckold part of it.
Are you a truthful somebody?
Blake
07-26-2020, 09:57 PM
We can not even engage the already established cuckold part of it.
Are you a truthful somebody?
Go back to your sandbox, boy.
Spurtacular
07-26-2020, 10:06 PM
Go back to your sandbox, boy.
You can't even claim you're a truthful somebody?
Then I guess you calling someone a lying nobody is laughable.
tholdren
07-26-2020, 11:05 PM
But you're a liar and a nobody
You've never proven I've lied
ElNono
07-27-2020, 02:29 AM
You've never proven I've lied
wrong
Winehole23
07-27-2020, 08:30 AM
Why did the Marlins play last night?
1287740635617927171
tholdren
07-27-2020, 08:33 AM
Why did the Marlins play last night?
1287740635617927171
Oh the horror!!!
Winehole23
07-27-2020, 08:39 AM
Oh the horror!!!Callous disregard for the lives of pro ball players, whatever's that's worth to you.
tholdren
07-27-2020, 08:59 AM
Callous disregard for the lives of pro ball players, whatever's that's worth to you.
They made a choice. Get over yourself
Winehole23
07-27-2020, 09:18 AM
They made a choice. Get over yourselfMLB made a decision to play ball in a pandemic, they'll have to face the flames.
Winehole23
07-27-2020, 09:48 AM
Calling the MLB season off?
1287761138701275136
boutons_deux
07-27-2020, 10:16 AM
FL now has more C19 cases than NY
hater
07-27-2020, 10:41 AM
:lmao fatball
https://twitter.com/Reflog_18/status/1287765431244263428?s=19
tholdren
07-27-2020, 10:55 AM
MLB made a decision to play ball in a pandemic, they'll have to face the flames.
they made a choice. Stop the gossip
boutons_deux
07-27-2020, 11:19 AM
Guess which two states have the most newly unemployed. Hint: It's the two worst governors
UNADJUSTED INITIAL CLAIMS FOR WEEK ENDED JULY 11, 2020
FLORIDA
+65.890
GEORGIA
+33,292
CALIFORNIA
+20.123
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/25/1963715/-Guess-which-two-states-have-the-most-newly-unemployed-Hint-It-s-the-two-worst-governors?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/25/1963715/-Guess-which-two-states-have-the-most-newly-unemployed-Hint-It-s-the-two-worst-governors?detail=emaildkre)
tholdren
07-27-2020, 12:40 PM
Guess which two states have the most newly unemployed. Hint: It's the two worst governors
UNADJUSTED INITIAL CLAIMS FOR WEEK ENDED JULY 11, 2020
FLORIDA
+65.890
GEORGIA
+33,292
CALIFORNIA
+20.123
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/25/1963715/-Guess-which-two-states-have-the-most-newly-unemployed-Hint-It-s-the-two-worst-governors?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/25/1963715/-Guess-which-two-states-have-the-most-newly-unemployed-Hint-It-s-the-two-worst-governors?detail=emaildkre)
Completely out of context lololol like a media headline
Blake
07-27-2020, 01:50 PM
FL now has more C19 cases than NY
BUT NOT MORE DEATHS FLORIDA STILL WINNING
Guess which two states have the most newly unemployed. Hint: It's the two worst governors
UNADJUSTED INITIAL CLAIMS FOR WEEK ENDED JULY 11, 2020
FLORIDA
+65.890
GEORGIA
+33,292
CALIFORNIA
+20.123
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/25/1963715/-Guess-which-two-states-have-the-most-newly-unemployed-Hint-It-s-the-two-worst-governors?detail=emaildkre (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/7/25/1963715/-Guess-which-two-states-have-the-most-newly-unemployed-Hint-It-s-the-two-worst-governors?detail=emaildkre)
Here's the more important tidbit:
The highest insured unemployment rates in the week ending July 4 were in Puerto Rico (26.0), Nevada (21.3), Hawaii
(20.7), Georgia (18.0), California (16.9), Louisiana (16.6), New York (16.1), Connecticut (15.4), the Virgin Islands
(15.2), and Massachusetts (15.0).
I think that Florida is at 10.7% unemployment for June 2020.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.t02.htm#lau_srd_tb2.f.p
Blake
07-27-2020, 02:21 PM
Here's the more important tidbit:
The highest insured unemployment rates in the week ending July 4 were in Puerto Rico (26.0), Nevada (21.3), Hawaii
(20.7), Georgia (18.0), California (16.9), Louisiana (16.6), New York (16.1), Connecticut (15.4), the Virgin Islands
(15.2), and Massachusetts (15.0).
I think that Florida is at 10.7% unemployment for June 2020.
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/laus.t02.htm#lau_srd_tb2.f.p
He said "newly" unemployed for a specific reason.
But hey great to see Puerto Rico recovering from the hurricane thanks to Trump's paper towels
Spurtacular
07-27-2020, 03:12 PM
MLB made a decision to play ball in a pandemic, they'll have to face the flames.
Nobody gonna die. Fake pandemic.
Blake excited though; he gets to be a useful cuck. :lmao
TheGreatYacht
tholdren
07-27-2020, 03:21 PM
BUT NOT MORE DEATHS FLORIDA STILL WINNING
pretty much
He said "newly" unemployed for a specific reason.
But hey great to see Puerto Rico recovering from the hurricane thanks to Trump's paper towels
So, you think the CHANGE in number of unemployed from one week to the next is more important than the MONTHLY unemployment rate? Yeah, the headline is FL (due to its bad governor) has biggest weekly increase - not mentioning that overall FL's unemployment rate is lower than all those listed above. It ain't that bad - especially considering how RELIANT FL is on tourism.
tholdren
07-27-2020, 03:23 PM
So, you think the CHANGE in number of unemployed from one week to the next is more important than the MONTHLY unemployment rate? Yeah, the headline is FL (due to its bad governor) has biggest weekly increase - not mentioning that overall FL's unemployment rate is lower than all those listed above. It ain't that bad - especially considering how RELIANT FL is on tourism.
he's really bad with numbers in his defense
Winehole23
07-27-2020, 03:32 PM
Nobody gonna die. Fake pandemic.It's doubtful any major leaguers will die, but killing you isn't the only way COVID-19 can fuck you up.
Not fake at all.
Blake
07-27-2020, 03:37 PM
So, you think the CHANGE in number of unemployed from one week to the next is more important than the MONTHLY unemployment rate? Yeah, the headline is FL (due to its bad governor) has biggest weekly increase - not mentioning that overall FL's unemployment rate is lower than all those listed above. It ain't that bad - especially considering how RELIANT FL is on tourism.
I'm not saying which is more important at the moment. I'm saying you put up a red herring.
Spurtacular
07-27-2020, 03:41 PM
It's doubtful any major leaguers will die
And they're fat.
:lol "deadly disease"
Winehole23
07-27-2020, 03:45 PM
Nobody gonna die. Fake pandemic.It's doubtful any major leaguers will die, but killing you isn't the only way COVID-19 can fuck you up.
Not fake at all.
TheGreatYacht
07-27-2020, 07:28 PM
Nobody gonna die. Fake pandemic.
Blake excited though; he gets to be a useful cuck. :lmao
TheGreatYacht
The pedophiles and Satanic elites are torturing us until we beg for the vaccine. The fake plandemic is what Chumpettes always wanted. Let government dictate our lives
spurraider21
07-27-2020, 07:50 PM
The pedophiles and Satanic elites are torturing us until we beg for the vaccine. The fake plandemic is what Chumpettes always wanted. Let government dictate our lives
you want a strasserist nazi governmen tho
tholdren
07-27-2020, 08:38 PM
It's doubtful any major leaguers will die, but killing you isn't the only way COVID-19 can fuck you up.
Not fake at all.
elaborate....
Winehole23
07-27-2020, 09:22 PM
elaborate....Sure, even though you won't ever return the favor.
Here's one example:
https://twitter.com/ddiamond/status/1287533231450062849?s=19
Winehole23
07-27-2020, 09:29 PM
Lung damage, kidney damage, DVTs +strokes have been observed during the course of illness in otherwise healthy people. Kawasaki-like inflammatory illness in children also seems to be correlelated with COVID-19.
It may be awhile before the causal pathways are determined -- or ruled out -- but the trend is worrisome.
Winehole23
07-28-2020, 01:24 AM
Further study needed on heart disease/damage correlated with COVID-19
Question What are the cardiovascular effects in unselected patients with recent coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19)?
Findings In this cohort study including 100 patients recently recovered from COVID-19 identified from a COVID-19 test center, cardiac magnetic resonance imaging revealed cardiac involvement in 78 patients (78%) and ongoing myocardial inflammation in 60 patients (60%), which was independent of preexisting conditions, severity and overall course of the acute illness, and the time from the original diagnosis.
Meaning These findings indicate the need for ongoing investigation of the long-term cardiovascular consequences of COVID-19.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
ElNono
07-28-2020, 04:47 AM
Further study needed on heart disease/damage correlated with COVID-19
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamacardiology/fullarticle/2768916
It's well know at this point that this virus doesn't just cause respiratory problems, but can attack a number of organs (aka pan-organ). There's a high incidence of blood cloths, there's the 'covid-toes' skin condition, etc.
Winehole23
07-28-2020, 09:46 AM
It's well know at this point that this virus doesn't just cause respiratory problems, but can attack a number of organs (aka pan-organ). There's a high incidence of blood cloths, there's the 'covid-toes' skin condition, etc.It's starting to look like COVID-19 is is a vascular disease too.
Winehole23
07-28-2020, 01:26 PM
COVID-19 U-17(inclusive) new cases and child hospitalizations in FL up sharply in the last eight days:
On July 16, the state had a total of 23,170 children ages 17 and under who had tested positive since the beginning of the pandemic, according to the Florida Department of Health. By July 24, that number jumped to 31,150. That’s a 34% increase in new cases among children in eight days, CNN reported (https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/health/florida-covid-children-hospitalizations/index.html).
And more children in Florida are requiring hospitalization. As of July 16, 246 children had been hospitalized with coronavirus. By July 24, that number had jumped to 303. That’s a 23% increase in child Covid-19 hospitalizations in eight days. https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/07/27/florida-child-hospitalizations-jump-23-as-schools-prepare-to-reopen/
Blake
07-28-2020, 04:20 PM
COVID-19 U-17(inclusive) new cases and child hospitalizations in FL up sharply in the last eight days:
https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2020/07/27/florida-child-hospitalizations-jump-23-as-schools-prepare-to-reopen/
But Sweden tho
tholdren
07-28-2020, 09:44 PM
But Sweden tho
Yep didn't close the schools and no problems
ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 09:49 PM
Yep didn't close the schools and no problemsWrong.
Problems.
tholdren
07-28-2020, 09:51 PM
Wrong.
Problems.
No, I posted fatalities strat by age
No problems
ChumpDumper
07-28-2020, 09:52 PM
NoYes.
tholdren
07-28-2020, 10:01 PM
No, I posted fatalities strat by age
No problems
Blake
07-28-2020, 11:04 PM
No, I posted fatalities strat by age
No problems
Lies
boutons_deux
07-29-2020, 06:37 AM
Some Countries Reopened Schools. What Did They Learn About Kids and Covid?
Studies from around the world suggest that
success depends on
class size,
distancing,
the age of the students, and
how prevalent the virus is locally.
https://www.wired.com/story/some-countries-reopened-schools-what-did-they-learn-about-kids-and-covid/
With the pandemic raging out of control in Trash/Repug states, sending their kids to school, and almost violating protective measures, will sicken and kill thousands.
iow, shitbag Repugs MISgovern their states yet again to be shitholes
Winehole23
07-31-2020, 10:10 AM
possible implications for preschools
Our final cohort included 145 patients with mild to moderate illness within 1 week of symptom onset. We compared 3 groups: young children younger than 5 years (n = 46), older children aged 5 to 17 years (n = 51), and adults aged 18 to 65 years (n = 48). We found similar median (interquartile range) CT values for older children (11.1 [6.3-15.7]) and adults (11.0 [6.9-17.5]). However, young children had significantly lower median (interquartile range) CT values (6.5 [4.8-12.0]), indicating that young children have equivalent or more viral nucleic acid in their upper respiratory tract compared with older children and adults (Figure (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952#pld200036f1)). The observed differences in median CT values between young children and adults approximate a 10-fold to 100-fold greater amount of SARS-CoV-2 in the upper respiratory tract of young children.
[/QUOTE]https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2768952
Splits
07-31-2020, 12:48 PM
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Winehole23
07-31-2020, 12:56 PM
Maybe the data/studies will be more valuable if schools are open everywhere.
We're treading really close to mass medical experimentation on children.
(*spidey-sense* tingles)
tholdren
07-31-2020, 07:09 PM
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so what? Cases mean nothing. Your iq low
boutons_deux
08-04-2020, 08:10 AM
As the Coronavirus Comes to School, a Tough Choice: When to Close
As schools in the South and the Midwest reopen this week,
officials must decide what steps to take as staff members and students test positive.
the superintendent of the Elwood Community School Corporation sent out a note on Saturday thanking students and parents for“a great first two days of school!” (https://www.facebook.com/ElwoodCommunitySchools/photos/pcb.1875944365880857/1875944205880873/?type=3&theater)
But the optimistic tone quickly gave way:
Several staff members had tested positive for the virus, he wrote, and
one employee at the high school had potentially exposed other staff members.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/us/school-closing-coronavirus.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200804&instance_id=20953&nl=the-morning®i_id=80821797&segment_id=35161&te=1&user_id=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031 (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/03/us/school-closing-coronavirus.html?campaign_id=9&emc=edit_nn_20200804&instance_id=20953&nl=the-morning®i_id=80821797&segment_id=35161&te=1&user_id=992d608214b505003aa04bf10a595031)
red states? What's not to ridicule! :lol
pgardn
08-04-2020, 08:53 AM
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(20)30251-0/fulltext
some really good news from a preliminary Australian study on opening schools.
A number of caveats that the US no mask wearing “don’t you dare trace me, you can’t isolate me “, public would have trouble with
but encouraging for a small well done first study.
Splits
08-04-2020, 09:41 AM
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Will Hunting
08-04-2020, 09:51 AM
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Jesus fucking Christ.
Winehole23
08-04-2020, 09:59 AM
don't worry y'all, caseloads doesn't matter because "deaths are going down."
did I get that right, tholdren?
Trill Clinton
08-04-2020, 10:26 AM
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cool petri dish
TimDunkem
08-04-2020, 10:32 AM
We deserve whatever comes from this, tbh.
boutons_deux
08-04-2020, 11:23 AM
Teachers returned to a Georgia school district last week.
260 employees have already gone home to quarantine.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/04/school-outbreaks-reopening-georgia (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/04/school-outbreaks-reopening-georgia/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most)
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Georgia high school student loses both parents to COVID-19
but Gov. Kemp still sits on his hands
https://images.dailykos.com/images/839564/story_image/Hunter.jpg?1596402346
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/3/1965968/-Georgia-high-school-student-loses-both-parents-to-COVID-19-but-Gov-Kemp-still-sits-on-his-hands
Winehole23
08-04-2020, 11:31 AM
We deserve whatever comes from this, tbh.yes we do
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boutons_deux
08-04-2020, 11:56 AM
We deserve whatever comes from this, tbh.
speak for yourself.
I and my family deserve none of The Trump-Made Pandemic and all the catastrophic SHIT it has engendered.
TimDunkem
08-04-2020, 12:02 PM
speak for yourself.
I and my family deserve none of The Trump-Made Pandemic and all the catastrophic SHIT it has engendered.
The collective "We". This country has failed as a whole.
boutons_deux
08-04-2020, 12:33 PM
The collective "We". This country has failed as a whole.
nope.
The tiny, but very wealthy and very powerful minority of white male Capitalists have rigged the country from top to bottom.
They used their wealth to buy govt (it was cheap), and to disenfranchise citizens.
I and my family had nothing to do with that corruption.
pgardn
08-04-2020, 01:22 PM
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(20)30251-0/fulltext
some really good news from a preliminary Australian study on opening schools.
A number of caveats that the US no mask wearing “don’t you dare trace me, you can’t isolate me “, public would have trouble with
but encouraging for a small well done first study.
Ok then...
We are doing studies in Georgia HS to see how many people we CAN infect.
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Blake
08-04-2020, 03:30 PM
Yeah but Sweden tho
Blake
08-04-2020, 04:45 PM
Several schools around the country already temporarily shutting down. Fuck.
baseline bum
08-04-2020, 05:30 PM
The collective "We". This country has failed as a whole.
No, Trump and his cronies have failed the country. "We" are their victims. "We" don't deserve this shit. "We" deserve a competent response to COVID like the rest of the rich nations' citizens have enjoyed.
Winehole23
08-04-2020, 07:27 PM
No, Trump and his cronies have failed the country. "We" are their victims. "We" don't deserve this shit. "We" deserve a competent response to COVID like the rest of the rich nations' citizens have enjoyed.Bad leadership in a public emergency is not forgettable long term and not forgivable short term.
Blake
08-04-2020, 07:58 PM
No, Trump and his cronies have failed the country. "We" are their victims. "We" don't deserve this shit. "We" deserve a competent response to COVID like the rest of the rich nations' citizens have enjoyed.
We don't deserve stupid prizes
Winehole23
08-05-2020, 09:50 AM
The open-source sofware program permitted the centralized tracking of contacts and rapididentfication of links between cases. Workplace contacts were at higher risk of developing symptoms.Although childhood contacts were less likely to become cases, children were more likely to infecthousehold members, perhaps because of the difficulty of successfully isolating children in householdsettingshttps://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.16.20127357v1.full.pdf
Winehole23
08-05-2020, 09:56 AM
Follow up through the quarantine period was provided by the contact tracers in each local health district unless 1) the contacts themselves became cases or 2) if they cohabitants of a known case. The follow up was done via phone, an app, or email based on the contact’s preference. Domestic care units provided the follow up for these two groups and were responsible for reporting any cases that developed among cohabitants to the central care database of their respective health units. Contact tracing was performed by public health visitors, nurses and doctors and, after case numbers overwhelmed capacities by other health workers such as safety inspectors, controllers or administrative personnel, who were repurposed as contact-tracers.At the beginning of the pandemic, the contact tracing activities of the individual services were recorded non-standardized Excel sheets, which were inconsistently completed by those performing the tracing.This method of collecting information did not always provide overall information on the number of contacts under surveillance, on the nature of the relationship between case and contact, on how many contacts had in turn become cases (outbreaks), and on the starting and ending dates of follow-up surveillance. We therefore developed a computer-based monitoring system that standardized data collection and facilitates the surveillance of contacts and outbreaks, allowed periodic analyses for the production of standard reports, and permitted more detailed epidemiological analysis for better identification of high-risk contacts and the targeting of contact tracing efforts. It also allowed for the identification of any cases that developed among contacts who were cohabiting with a known case. Although contact tracing is an important pillar of the Test, Treat and Track strategy of the World Health Organizaon (1), little is known about the yield of such tracing. In this paper, we present the results of contact tracing in the Province of Trento for March and April 2020, including number of contacts per case, secondary attack rates overall and by the demographic characteristics of the contacts, and the association between case characteristics and the likelihood of their contacts themselves becoming cases.
Winehole23
08-05-2020, 09:56 AM
where is our contact tracing?
pgardn
08-05-2020, 10:01 AM
where is our contact tracing?
You cant track individuals in this country. Deep State will find you with the info and ground truth that you actually exist.
We will apparently also cut the US census off way early.
No need to know approximately how many people we have living here.
ChumpDumper
08-05-2020, 10:08 AM
where is our contact tracing?Abbott took bids in May (at once too late and a long time ago) and it looks like there's a lawsuit about the process.
Winehole23
08-05-2020, 10:12 AM
You cant track individuals in this country. Deep State will find you with the info and ground truth that you actually exist.
We will apparently also cut the US census off way early.
No need to know approximately how many people we have living here.Contact tracing can be done without apps. In Trento they used whatever method patients were comfortable with.
leemajors
08-05-2020, 10:27 AM
Contact tracing can be done without apps. In Trento they used whatever method patients were comfortable with.
YOU CAN'T TRACK ME!!! BUT I CHECK INTO PLACES ON FACEBOOK THAT IS COOL
Winehole23
08-05-2020, 10:34 AM
YOU CAN'T TRACK ME!!! BUT I CHECK INTO PLACES ON FACEBOOK THAT IS COOLsounds about right
RandomGuy
08-05-2020, 10:46 AM
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TSA
RandomGuy
08-05-2020, 10:47 AM
Teachers returned to a Georgia school district last week.
260 employees have already gone home to quarantine.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/04/school-outbreaks-reopening-georgia (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/08/04/school-outbreaks-reopening-georgia/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most)
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Georgia high school student loses both parents to COVID-19
but Gov. Kemp still sits on his hands
https://images.dailykos.com/images/839564/story_image/Hunter.jpg?1596402346
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/3/1965968/-Georgia-high-school-student-loses-both-parents-to-COVID-19-but-Gov-Kemp-still-sits-on-his-hands
US re-opening plan:
Step 1: Reopen schools
Step 2: Oh shit oh shit oh shit
Step 3: Close schools
(as seen elsewhere, can't claim credit for this one)
boutons_deux
08-05-2020, 11:37 AM
CDC study finds kids of all ages may play key role in virus transmission amid push to reopen schools
The highest percentage of children who tested positive at a sleepaway camp in Georgia were also the youngest
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) shows that children of all ages are susceptible to coronavirus infection — and can efficiently transmit the virus to others.
The study analyzes a coronavirus super spreader event at a Georgia sleepaway camp in June.
Several hundred campers (with a median age of 12) and staffers (with a median age of 17)
were tested for COVID-19.
Of the 344 individuals for whom test results were available,
260 came back positive for COVID-19,
or more than 75%.
The highest percentage of children who tested positive were the youngest.
Fifty-one percent of those confirmed to be infected were between 6 and 10 years old,
44% were between 11 and 17 years old and
33% were between 18 to 21 years old.
"This investigation adds to the body of evidence demonstrating that
children of all ages are susceptible to SARS-CoV-2 infection, and contrary to early reports,
might play an important role in transmission,"
https://www.salon.com/2020/08/04/cdc-study-finds-kids-of-all-ages-may-play-key-role-in-virus-transmission-amid-push-to-reopen-schools/ (https://www.salon.com/2020/08/04/cdc-study-finds-kids-of-all-ages-may-play-key-role-in-virus-transmission-amid-push-to-reopen-schools/)
hater
08-05-2020, 12:28 PM
I read in S Korea the contact tracing apps were mainly voluntary. Everyone would get notifications of infections in places theyd been and it would be up to them to do next steps. (Unless I read wrong)
Thats sounds great and not infringing on p4ivacy. Basically voluntary.
But then again here we are talking about stupid americans who think masks are slave muzzles
ChumpDumper
08-05-2020, 12:42 PM
I read in S Korea the contact tracing apps were mainly voluntary. Everyone would get notifications of infections in places theyd been and it would be up to them to do next steps. (Unless I read wrong)
Thats sounds great and not infringing on p4ivacy. Basically voluntary.
But then again here we are talking about stupid americans who think masks are slave muzzlesSouth Korean voluntary is different from muh freedom voluntary. The ROK government effectively achieved a lockdown but that was all voluntary too.
Blake
08-05-2020, 12:49 PM
TSA
He's noticably absent
boutons_deux
08-05-2020, 04:44 PM
Entire second-grade class in Georgia school forced into COVID quarantine after just one day
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/entire-second-grade-class-in-georgia-school-forced-into-after-just-one-day/
ChumpDumper
08-05-2020, 04:45 PM
And they're off!
1290973322491187202
boutons_deux
08-05-2020, 04:45 PM
‘America is out of its mind’:
Texas doc goes on viral rant about pushing schools to reopen during pandemic
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/08/america-is-out-of-its-mind-texas-doc-goes-on-viral-rant-about-pushing-schools-to-reopen-during/
spurraider21
08-05-2020, 04:49 PM
And they're off!
1290973322491187202
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.651244289.2898/flat,750x1000,075,f.u2.jpg
Blake
08-05-2020, 05:20 PM
And they're off!
1290973322491187202
That shot with all the kids maskless, shoulder to shoulder is mind numbing.
Blake
08-05-2020, 05:20 PM
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.651244289.2898/flat,750x1000,075,f.u2.jpg
^ that
ChumpDumper
08-05-2020, 05:21 PM
https://ih1.redbubble.net/image.651244289.2898/flat,750x1000,075,f.u2.jpg
That shot with all the kids maskless, shoulder to shoulder is mind numbing.
DAY ONE BABY!
GONNA BE A GREAT YEAR!
Blake
08-05-2020, 05:24 PM
DAY ONE BABY!
GONNA BE A GREAT YEAR!
https://assets.teenvogue.com/photos/57dc4253940fe4b8164deb91/master/w_400%2Cc_limit/were-all-in-this-together.gif
boutons_deux
08-05-2020, 09:36 PM
Students at school system Pence called 'forefront' of reopening now in quarantine
Fourth graders at a school that is part of a system that Vice President Pence visited and
lauded for returning to in-person teaching
have been asked to quarantine after a student tested positive for COVID-19.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/510736-students-at-school-system-pence-called-forefront-of-reopening-now-in
:lol
Winehole23
08-05-2020, 10:13 PM
where is our contact tracing?Bested by Italy.
Viva Italia!
Blake
08-05-2020, 11:22 PM
Students at school system Pence called 'forefront' of reopening now in quarantine
Fourth graders at a school that is part of a system that Vice President Pence visited and
lauded for returning to in-person teaching
have been asked to quarantine after a student tested positive for COVID-19.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/510736-students-at-school-system-pence-called-forefront-of-reopening-now-in
:lol
Same Trump routine.
"[Insert state, city, agency] is doing a fantastic job of opening up" followed by wildfire
Splits
08-06-2020, 10:12 AM
1291379605828501506
Splits
08-06-2020, 10:15 AM
And they're off!
1290973322491187202
I thought children under 10 were basically immune?
ChumpDumper
08-06-2020, 10:19 AM
I thought children under 10 were basically immune?They've been committing suicide en masse out of school during their regular summer break like kids do every summer. Frankly we're lucky there were any left alive to infect and spread the disease further.[/blue font]
Will Hunting
08-06-2020, 10:20 AM
I thought children under 10 were basically immune?
They are - false flag operation!
boutons_deux
08-06-2020, 11:31 AM
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/117303603_941719659666408_720642742401752098_n.jpg ?_nc_cat=108&_nc_sid=730e14&_nc_ohc=ywi0r7Hrq3IAX8HXJFX&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=099761efbf9372b9d1132e83ffea4cfa&oe=5F50CD40
baseline bum
08-06-2020, 06:24 PM
And they're off!
1290973322491187202
Hannah Watters got suspended from North Paulding High School in Georgia for taking that photo and posting it.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/06/georgia-students-punished-over-snaps-of-crowded-school-no-mask-in-sight/
Nbadan
08-06-2020, 06:38 PM
What kinda BS is this?
Later, a woman named Grace Watters, who claimed on Twitter to be Hannah’s sister and an alum of the school, added that “multiple students” had been suspended for sharing what they saw in their first days of school during the pandemic.
The sisters declined to comment directly, but Grace suggested to The Post in a Twitter message that NPHS has a history of “disproportionate punishments.”
Despite Hannah Watters’ citation, the severe punishment she faced appears to be in accordance with a recently established disciplinary code regarding how the school is presented on social media by its students. On Wednesday, Carmona reportedly announced over the intercom that any student found criticizing the school on social media could face disciplinary consequences, BuzzFeed reported.
ChumpDumper
08-06-2020, 08:39 PM
Hannah Watters got suspended from North Paulding High School in Georgia for taking that photo and posting it.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/06/georgia-students-punished-over-snaps-of-crowded-school-no-mask-in-sight/Radio silence from the "ramping up the fascism" crowd.
tholdren
08-06-2020, 08:52 PM
Radio silence from the "ramping up the fascism" crowd.
0 hospitals over capacity
Ifr of covid 1/4 of flu for 50 and below.
Wash your hands
ChumpDumper
08-06-2020, 08:55 PM
IfrShow your math.
Will Hunting
08-07-2020, 09:19 AM
100 suspected cases among students/teachers in Cobb County:
http://eastcobbnews.com/cobb-schools-report-around-100-suspected-covid-19-cases/
What’s the over under on how long before Georgia backpedals on this? I give it until Labor Day.
Will Hunting
08-07-2020, 11:38 AM
Hannah Watters got suspended from North Paulding High School in Georgia for taking that photo and posting it.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/06/georgia-students-punished-over-snaps-of-crowded-school-no-mask-in-sight/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/07/us/georgia-teen-photo-crowded-school-hallway-trnd/index.html
Suspension rescinded!
tholdren
08-07-2020, 11:49 AM
Florida has almost 20% more cases than ny and 1/5 the death.
Just goes to show ifr less than flu.
ChumpDumper
08-07-2020, 11:50 AM
ifrShow your math.
tholdren
08-07-2020, 11:53 AM
Show your math.
half a year later you still dont know and are too lazy to learn simple statistics. Way to be
ChumpDumper
08-07-2020, 11:54 AM
half a year later you still dont know and are too lazy to learn simple statistics. Way to beHalf a year later you're still afraid to show your math. Way to foldren.
baseline bum
08-07-2020, 12:26 PM
Half a year later you're still afraid to show your math. Way to foldren.
That post was the best part of his day though..
Blake
08-07-2020, 01:23 PM
0 hospitals over capacity
Ifr of covid 1/4 of flu for 50 and below.
Wash your hands
The McAllen convention center isn't at capacity!!
https://www.themonitor.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/2020/07/getJPEG-1-8.jpg
tholdren
08-07-2020, 01:59 PM
The McAllen convention center isn't at capacity!!
https://www.themonitor.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/60/2020/07/getJPEG-1-8.jpg
You are right for once. !!!
Blake
08-07-2020, 02:17 PM
You are right for once. !!!
So you really are including emergency set ups in your numbers. Figured.
boutons_deux
08-07-2020, 03:29 PM
Florida health directors reportedly told not to say whether schools should reopen
County health directors in Florida have reportedly been told not to provide a recommendation about whether schools should reopen during the coronavirus pandemic.
Florida state officials "instructed county directors to focus their advice to school boards on how best to reopen," but the health directors have been told "not to make a recommendation" about whether to actually reopen at all,
Former health directors told the Palm Beach Post this is unusual, as they typically would provide the schools with such advice.
"Yes, we always advise them what to do,"
"Schools are educators; they are not health experts. They have nowhere else to turn but us.”
https://theweek.com/speedreads/929992/florida-health-directors-reportedly-told-not-say-whether-schools-should-reopen (https://theweek.com/speedreads/929992/florida-health-directors-reportedly-told-not-say-whether-schools-should-reopen)
Blake
08-07-2020, 04:19 PM
"New York teachers’ unions this week said that just one positive case of COVID-19 in a school should prompt an “immediate closure” for 14 days, as the groups roll out their proposals for the fall 2020 semester amid the coronavirus pandemic.
The New York State United Teachers and the United Federation of Teachers this week urged the state and its health officials to “issue clear protocols for how and when school districts must close their buildings,” as well as how they will perform contact tracing and initiate quarantines in the event of a positive COVID-19 case in a school or classroom this fall...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-teachers-unions-demand-immediate-closure-of-schools-over-a-single-covid-19-case
Spurtacular
08-07-2020, 06:42 PM
"New York teachers’ unions this week said that just one positive case of COVID-19 in a school should prompt an “immediate closure” for 14 days, as the groups roll out their proposals for the fall 2020 semester amid the coronavirus pandemic.
The New York State United Teachers and the United Federation of Teachers this week urged the state and its health officials to “issue clear protocols for how and when school districts must close their buildings,” as well as how they will perform contact tracing and initiate quarantines in the event of a positive COVID-19 case in a school or classroom this fall...
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/new-york-teachers-unions-demand-immediate-closure-of-schools-over-a-single-covid-19-case
Blake are you a teacher? You keep pimping this stuff hardcore.
You must be. It's the right job for a leach like you.
Blake
08-07-2020, 06:45 PM
Blake are you a teacher? You keep pimping this stuff hardcore.
You must be. It's the right job for a leach like you.
No. You're stupid tho.
Spurtacular
08-07-2020, 07:32 PM
No. You're stupid tho.
McDonalds assistant manager?
Blake
08-07-2020, 07:35 PM
McDonalds assistant manager?
Derplock Holmes on the case
Blake
08-07-2020, 07:35 PM
"Dr. David Freeman, superintendent for Flour Bluff ISD, died Wednesday morning, according to the district. Family members confirmed on social media COVID-19 killed him...."
http://news4sanantonio.com/news/local/family-texas-school-district-superintendent-dies-of-covid-19
Spurtacular
08-07-2020, 07:44 PM
Derplock Holmes on the case
Why are you so emotionally invested in teachers?
Blake
08-07-2020, 07:50 PM
Why are you so emotionally invested in teachers?
Why are you so emotionally invested in me? Seriously, I don't give half a shit about you.
Blake
08-07-2020, 11:08 PM
"(CNN)A school district in Georgia has decided to start the school year with virtual learning, after more than 90 staff members were forced to quarantine due to a confirmed or suspected case of Covid-19, or due to being exposed to someone who did.
"If today was the first day of school, we would have been hard-pressed to have sufficient staff available to open our schools," Barrow County Schools Superintendent Chris McMichael said in a statement on Wednesday..."
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/07/us/barrow-county-georgia-schools-covid-19/index.html
tholdren
08-08-2020, 07:59 AM
MODERN MEDICINE
The third-leading cause of death in US most doctors don't want you to know about
PUBLISHED THU, FEB 22 2018 9:31 AM EST
UPDATED WED, FEB 28 2018 9:39 AM EST
Ray Sipherd
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KEY POINTS
A recent Johns Hopkins study claims more than 250,000 people in the U.S. die every year from medical errors. Other reports claim the numbers to be as high as 440,000.
Don't know if already posted:
I’m a Nurse in New York. Teachers Should Do Their Jobs, Just Like I Did.
Schools are essential to the functioning of our society, and that makes teachers essential workers.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/im-nurse-teachers-should-do-their-jobs-like-i-did/614902/
ChumpDumper
08-08-2020, 09:06 AM
Don't know if already posted:
I’m a Nurse in New York. Teachers Should Do Their Jobs, Just Like I Did.
Schools are essential to the functioning of our society, and that makes teachers essential workers.
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/08/im-nurse-teachers-should-do-their-jobs-like-i-did/614902/
We wouldn’t be in this mess of uncertainty about the coming school year if the federal government had managed to control the virus; any glimmer of leadership from the president would have gone a long way. :tu
Will Hunting
08-08-2020, 09:30 AM
:lmao
tholdren
08-08-2020, 10:40 AM
:tu
feds can't stop internet gossip. Ifr lower than flu.
Lockdowns don't work.
Fl tx az all better thab ny nj
Lol
Blake
08-08-2020, 10:49 AM
feds can't stop internet gossip. Ifr lower than flu.
Lockdowns don't work.
Fl tx az all better thab ny nj
Lol
Stop your gossip
:tu
You guys are nuts if you think that our federal government (any except an authoritarian one) could control this virus. If you lived in China and they put all kinds of draconian measures, etc. then maybe - but not in this country where anyone can get in their car and drive anywhere. And how like you to zero in on one statement and miss the whole point of the article.
Will Hunting
08-08-2020, 10:59 AM
You guys are nuts if you think that our federal government (any except an authoritarian one) could control this virus. If you lived in China and they put all kinds of draconian measures, etc. then maybe - but not in this country where anyone can get in their car and drive anywhere. And how like you to zero in on one statement and miss the whole point of the article.
You can get in your car and drive anywhere in Germany, Soutb Korea, Japan, France, Denmark, Canada etc. yet their federal government managed to control the virus. It’s a myth that America is somehow more “free” than the rest of the world.
baseline bum
08-08-2020, 11:00 AM
You guys are nuts if you think that our federal government (any except an authoritarian one) could control this virus. If you lived in China and they put all kinds of draconian measures, etc. then maybe - but not in this country where anyone can get in their car and drive anywhere. And how like you to zero in on one statement and miss the whole point of the article.
Of course I don't think our federal government could control this, because it's led by Trump. Are you so retarded you can't see the rest of the world's rich nations have hugely slowed this virus after an initial peak? Most of them are freer than we are. Ridiculous that you find a response that parallels Iran's acceptable from the richest nation on Earth. Go die in a fire you fucking ignoramus.
Some of you fawningly praise these small, homogenous Asian countries with strict control of their population but would be the first to cry "Hell, NO!" if subjected to the what Asians willingly conform to. And then criticize a country of this size - of 350 million people of all different races/creeds who all think differently - with freedoms and liberty enjoyed nowhere else in the world.
baseline bum
08-08-2020, 11:01 AM
Some of you fawningly praise these small, homogenous Asian countries with strict control of their population but would be the first to cry "Hell, NO!" if subjected to the what Asians willingly conform to. And then criticize a country of this size - of 350 million people of all different races/creeds who all think differently - with freedoms and liberty enjoyed nowhere else in the world.
LMAO you always find some way to blame the minorities.
Will Hunting
08-08-2020, 11:02 AM
The quintessential difference between America and every other industrialized country that’s contained this virus is that our 35-40% of our country is made up of radical right wingers who want to deny science and politicize something as inconsequential as wearing a fucking mask. This isnt a polarizing wedge issue in any modern country except for America.
ChumpDumper
08-08-2020, 11:05 AM
Ifr Show your math or foldren again.
ChumpDumper
08-08-2020, 11:07 AM
You guys are nuts if you think that our federal government (any except an authoritarian one) could control this virus. If you lived in China and they put all kinds of draconian measures, etc. then maybe - but not in this country where anyone can get in their car and drive anywhere. And how like you to zero in on one statement and miss the whole point of the article.
We wouldn’t be in this mess of uncertainty about the coming school year if the federal government had managed to control the virus; any glimmer of leadership from the president would have gone a long way.
Plenty of free countries kicked America's ass in handling COVID.
Your president failed your country.
ChumpDumper
08-08-2020, 11:09 AM
Some of you fawningly praise these small, homogenous Asian countries with strict control of their population but would be the first to cry "Hell, NO!" if subjected to the what Asians willingly conform to. And then criticize a country of this size - of 350 million people of all different races/creeds who all think differently - with freedoms and liberty enjoyed nowhere else in the world.Yep, uppity whites failed this country.
Will Hunting
08-08-2020, 11:10 AM
Some of you fawningly praise these small, homogenous Asian countries with strict control of their population but would be the first to cry "Hell, NO!" if subjected to the what Asians willingly conform to. And then criticize a country of this size - of 350 million people of all different races/creeds who all think differently - with freedoms and liberty enjoyed nowhere else in the world.
All of those Asian countries are more densely populated than the US is. Japan has a land mass basically the size of California and more than double the people. Not to mention a median age nearly 10 years higher than the US median age. There’s nothing about Japan that makes it inherently easier to prevent the spread of COVID-19 than it is in the US, it’s actually the opposite.
What exactly does population control or homogenous demographics have to do with it? You’re just bringing up arbitrary differences between the US and other countries without offering any explanation as to how those differences slow the spread of coronavirus.
Keep repeating “freedoms and liberty nowhere else in the world” as many times as you want, it won’t change the fact that America isn’t any more free than Canada, Western Europe, Japan or South Korea. You’re talking about Japan and South Korea like they’re communist countries, Japan never even went to a full lockdown like we did, their citizens just wore masks.
pgardn
08-08-2020, 11:49 AM
We still have a western frontier mentality while most of these other countries recognize you usually have to get along with other people, like your neighbors. Or, horribly, people in other States!
And then they go waving a flag that has stars all crammed together; this must be exhausting physically and mentally.
Those stars are'nt REALLY United are they?
Bunch o fckn hypocrites and they can't see it.
pgardn
08-08-2020, 11:56 AM
We have done an absolutely pitiful job with this virus.
Zero Fed leadership.
Now just wait till the Health Care bills start rolling in from hospitals.
The big best plan that NEVER existed... thanks for that red team liars.
ElNono
08-08-2020, 05:21 PM
You can get in your car and drive anywhere in Germany, Soutb Korea, Japan, France, Denmark, Canada etc. yet their federal government managed to control the virus. It’s a myth that America is somehow more “free” than the rest of the world.
Some of you fawningly praise these small, homogenous Asian countries with strict control of their population but would be the first to cry "Hell, NO!" if subjected to the what Asians willingly conform to. And then criticize a country of this size - of 350 million people of all different races/creeds who all think differently - with freedoms and liberty enjoyed nowhere else in the world.
You know Germany, France, Denmark, Canada are not in Asia, right? asking for a friend...
tholdren
08-08-2020, 10:31 PM
We still have a western frontier mentality while most of these other countries recognize you usually have to get along with other people, like your neighbors. Or, horribly, people in other States!
And then they go waving a flag that has stars all crammed together; this must be exhausting physically and mentally.
Those stars are'nt REALLY United are they?
Bunch o fckn hypocrites and they can't see it.
I know. The vast majority of people dying with covid have already passed life expectancy and have multiple comorbidities..... wild west alright
tholdren
08-08-2020, 11:05 PM
We have done an absolutely pitiful job with this virus.
Zero Fed leadership.
Now just wait till the Health Care bills start rolling in from hospitals.
The big best plan that NEVER existed... thanks for that red team liars.
lol gone from saving lives to saving health care bills. Just admit you were wrong and stop posting
Blake
08-08-2020, 11:16 PM
lol gone from saving lives to saving health care bills. Just admit you were wrong and stop posting
Lies
tholdren
08-08-2020, 11:19 PM
Lies
nah just read his post. He knows covid not dangerous to vast majority. Now he wonders why it.will be expensive... forgetting he was part of the shut it down krew
Blake
08-08-2020, 11:23 PM
nah just read his post. He knows covid not dangerous to vast majority. Now he wonders why it.will be expensive... forgetting he was part of the shut it down krew
Nah you're just gossiping
tholdren
08-08-2020, 11:24 PM
nah just read his post. He knows covid not dangerous to vast majority. Now he wonders why it.will be expensive... forgetting he was part of the shut it down krew
Shut down krew can't admit lockdowns don't work so now they are complaining about healthcare.
Typical
Blake
08-08-2020, 11:25 PM
Shut down krew can't admit lockdowns don't work so now they are complaining about healthcare.
Typical
But you're a liar tho
tholdren
08-08-2020, 11:26 PM
Shut down krew can't admit lockdowns don't work so now they are complaining about healthcare.
Typical
You still think hospitals will be over capacity. Lololol
ChumpDumper
08-08-2020, 11:28 PM
You still think hospitals will be over capacity. LolololYou lie.
tholdren
08-08-2020, 11:28 PM
You lie.
bwahahahahahahaHhHHahha ChumpDumper
ChumpDumper
08-08-2020, 11:29 PM
bwahahahahahahaHhHHahha ChumpDumperYou've been lying from the start.
Why?
tholdren
08-09-2020, 12:33 PM
You've been lying from the start.
Why?
Chumpdump lolookkoookiooooookl
All he ever does is deflecting.
Generalized deflecting.
Hilarious
ChumpDumper
08-09-2020, 12:34 PM
Chumpdump lolookkoookiooooookl
All he ever does is deflecting.
Generalized deflecting.
HilariousYou generally lie about everything.
Why?
ChumpDumper
08-09-2020, 12:37 PM
Hannah Watters got suspended from North Paulding High School in Georgia for taking that photo and posting it.
https://nypost.com/2020/08/06/georgia-students-punished-over-snaps-of-crowded-school-no-mask-in-sight/
https://www.cnn.com/2020/08/07/us/georgia-teen-photo-crowded-school-hallway-trnd/index.html
Suspension rescinded!
1292314255199354881
Will Hunting
08-09-2020, 12:40 PM
1292314255199354881
Gossip. People under 18 can’t get coronavirus. Once the virus gets in your system it determines your age and immediately leaves if you’re a minor.
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