St.Louis home owners charged with felonies

[FrostKing]

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Black prosecutor targeting the home owners instead of trespassing protesters. Wild.

[baseline bum]

Thug Life

[Reck]

Trump said he will intervene. Law and order!

[Reck]

https://i.ibb.co/Tk8KX6C/Screenshot-2020-07-20-21-07-25-1.png

Black prosecutor targeting the home owners instead of trespassing protesters. Wild.

They were not trespassing. The street doesn’t belong to these try hards who can’t even hold a weapon properly.

[FrostKing]

Trump said he will intervene. Law and order!
No wealthy person with lighter skin than black will support this. They know their home is next.

[DMC]

:lol white people
:lol having an AR with the carry handle and iron sights and holding it like Rambo.

[FrostKing]

They were not trespassing. The street doesn’t belong to these try hards who can’t even hold a weapon properly.
https://i.ibb.co/fk639dp/5efa1fb92abf9-image.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebr3LaAWsAIJq0H.jpg

[ElNono]

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Black prosecutor targeting the home owners instead of trespassing protesters. Wild.

Missouri Revised Statutes Title XXXVIII. Crimes and Punishment; Peace Officers and Public Defenders § 571.030.

https://codes.findlaw.com/mo/title-xxxviii-crimes-and-punishment-peace-officers-and-public-defenders/mo-rev-st-571-030.html

1. A person commits the offense of unlawful use of weapons, except as otherwise provided by sections 571.101 to 571.121 , if he or she knowingly:

...

(4) Exhibits, in the presence of one or more persons, any weapon readily capable of lethal use in an angry or threatening manner;  or

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That said, despite that's the law, there's such an entanglement of statutes when it comes to brandishing vs self-defense, and considering the couple look relatively wealthy, and thus can afford an above average lawyer, I don't expect this to go anywhere, tbh

[Spurtacular]

Saw this earlier. Figured a chumpette would post it though.

[Spurtacular]

They were not trespassing. The street doesn’t belong to these try hards who can’t even hold a weapon properly.

:lmao Post #7
:lmao Fucking eunuch

[midnightpulp]

:lol white people
:lol having an AR with the carry handle and iron sights and holding it like Rambo.

:lol

[ducks]

Trump said he will intervene. Law and order!

Governor said they did nothing wrong
He will pardon them
Trump
Not
Getting
Involved

Breath

[ducks]

They were not trespassing. The street doesn’t belong to these try hards who can’t even hold a weapon properly.

They were on their property with out their permission

[spurraider21]

They were on their property with out their permission
That couple doesn’t own the street

[ducks]

They broke the community gate down did not have code

[spurraider21]

They broke the community gate down did not have code
They still don’t own the street

[FrostKing]

They still don’t own the street
The couple weren't on the street.

[Chris]

The couple weren't on the street.

lawyer21 :lol

[ElNono]

The couple weren't on the street.

The people were.

[FrostKing]

The people were.
I know. The couple weren't protecting the street.

[Reck]

I know. The couple weren't protecting the street.

Then your OP is wrong and this goes back to my second post here. Thanks for admitting the obvious.

[ElNono]

I know. The couple weren't protecting the street.

No, they were brandishing their weapons in a threatening manner from their property.

[FrostKing]

Then your OP is wrong and this goes back to my second post here. Thanks for admitting the obvious.
They were trespassing

The home owners were protecting their property waiting for Police to show

[spurraider21]

They were trespassing

The home owners were protecting their property waiting for Police to show
They weren’t being threatened. Nobody was on or approaching their property

[FrostKing]

They weren’t being threatened. Nobody was on or approaching their property
Possibly because the home owners were brandishing their legal weapons. Trespassers don't receive the benefit of the doubt.

[ElNono]

Possibly because the home owners were brandishing their legal weapons. Trespassers don't receive the benefit of the doubt.

Weapons might be legal. Brandishing them in a threatening way towards other people is not, especially when those people are not in your property.

[Blake]

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebr3LaAWsAIJq0H.jpg

Was anyone cited for trespassing or vandalism?

[Blake]

Governor said they did nothing wrong
He will pardon them
Trump
Not
Getting
Involved

Breath

Governor shouldn't get involved either. Just partisan bullshit rhetoric

[ChumpDumper]

Possibly because the home owners were brandishing their legal weapons. Trespassers don't receive the benefit of the doubt.What's your case law for that?

[Spurtacular]

Governor shouldn't get involved either. Just partisan bullshit rhetoric

The partisan bull shit is coming from black lives matter prosecutor.

Do you really not believe in the right to bare arms, cuck?

[Blake]

The partisan bull shit is coming from black lives matter prosecutor.

Do you really not believe in the right to bare arms, cuck?

They broke the law dumbass.

[angrydude]

They broke the law dumbass.

It is a clear cut case of self defense dumbass.

It's also a clear cut case of abuse of discretion and malicious prosecution. She picked a fight with a wealthy, successful PI Lawyer. That DA is about to get her ass sued.

She's also probably too stupid to realize it.

[FrostKing]

Was anyone cited for trespassing or vandalism?
Home owners called the Police, never showed. Fortunately the trespassers filmed themselves.

[FrostKing]

https://media1.fdncms.com/riverfronttimes/imager/u/blog/24218265/feature-01-8b99ebfb2eb2acd6.jpg


"the Circuit Attorney’s office has admitted there is a backlog of cases and dozens of homicides that haven’t been prosecuted, yet she has accelerated this case forward."

[Blake]

It is a clear cut case of self defense dumbass.

It's also a clear cut case of abuse of discretion and malicious prosecution. She picked a fight with a wealthy, successful PI Lawyer. That DA is about to get her ass sued.

She's also probably too stupid to realize it.

Lol angryKaren narrative.

[Blake]

Home owners called the Police, never showed. Fortunately the trespassers filmed themselves.

It's been a week what's the holdup

[Spurtacular]

They broke the law dumbass.

What law, Karen?

[Blake]

"....It was a huge and frightening crowd. They had broken the gate and were coming at us," Mark McCloskey told 5 On Your Side, explaining the videos that show him and his wife aiming a rifle and pistol respectively at the crowd.

But video from early in the incident shows a man holding open the left side of the gate while the right door is fully intact and upright.

"I didn’t see anything violent. I didn’t see anything wild from my perspective. I did see somebody open the door, and they walk into a gated community. I didn’t see anything broken or property being damaged," Maxi Glamour said....

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/video-shows-gate-was-intact-when-cwe-couple-pointed-guns-at-protesters/63-14a1582a-9372-4494-b8ee-41d5d4d71b61

[Blake]

What law, Karen?

El Nono posted it for you, dumbass.

[FrostKing]

It's been a week what's the holdup
https://i.ibb.co/BtLxC3c/Screen-Shot-2020-07-21-at-12-18-17-AM.png

Black prosecutor

[Spurtacular]

El Nono posted it for you, dumbass.

Use your words, board cuckold.

Why are these people villains?

[Chris]

No, they were brandishing their weapons in a threatening manner from their property.

Did you get offended?

[Spurtacular]

https://i.ibb.co/BtLxC3c/Screen-Shot-2020-07-21-at-12-18-17-AM.png

Black prosecutor

This racist needs to be fired.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285371833316003840?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285372352923041795?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285373024464756737?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285374384153165825?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285374871216807936?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285375475221749760?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285375970514436096?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285376472828596224?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285377104490766336?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285377663436283904?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285378178371006465?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285378886755287048?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285379473303633922?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285380196514881537?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285381517297037323?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285382222309019648?s=19
https://twitter.com/Eric_Schmitt/status/1285383113888149505?s=19


/thread

[ChumpDumper]

/threadDid the protesters enter the couple's actual property?

[Chris]

Did the protesters enter the couple's actual property?

You didn't read it.

[spurraider21]

politically motivated dismissal

again?

[ChumpDumper]

You didn't read it.I did. I read nothing about the protesters being on their actual property.

It's easy to conclude they didn't.

[ElNono]

Did you get offended?

You can't make this about me. next question.

[ElNono]

politically motivated dismissal

again?

is that what that wall of tweets say? wouldn't be surprising, and supports what I said in post #8.

[Chris]

You can't make this about me. next question.

It's ok snowflake. No more questions :tu

[ElNono]

It's ok snowflake. No more questions :tu
Chris folds :td

[CosmicCowboy]

The partisan bull shit is coming from black lives matter prosecutor.

Do you really not believe in the right to bare arms, cuck?

It's OK for you to wear a wife beater.

[CosmicCowboy]

Did the protesters enter the couple's actual property?

If it is a private street the homeowner would own the street in conjunction with the other residents. My house at the lake is on a private street and my deed clearly defines the metes and bounds of the property that is exclusively mine and the metes and bounds of the property (including the street) that I own jointly with my two neighbors..

[Monostradamus]

:lmao “bare” arms
:lmao Derp

[ducks]

Missouri Gov: Couple Had 'Right' to Defend Home With Guns

[spurraider21]

Missouri Gov: Couple Had 'Right' to Defend Home With Guns
HQ special

[BSfromTX]

They broke down a gate that they did not have a code for. That doesn't exactly make the statement that they are there on peaceful terms.

Those that wish to defend the protestors fail to think how these situations might some day be reversed... be careful what you root for

[spurraider21]

They broke down a gate that they did not have a code for. That doesn't exactly make the statement that they are there on peaceful terms.

Those that wish to defend the protestors fail to think how these situations might some day be reversed... be careful what you root for
if protesters were actually getting on their property or threatening the couple, this would be quite different. if an angry mob walked right by your house, much like how you dont have the authority to just snipe passer-byers off, you also dont have a right to point your weapon at them in a threatening manner. it's just a lesser offense.

[TXstbobcat]

Is breaking down the gate now considered both a legal and a peaceful action????

[Spurs Homer]

The video is all you need to see...

IF the “mob” “protesters “ were approaching or trying to enter the private home

THAT - would have given the homeowners the right to brandish their weapons...

the video shows NO ONE within 20-25 yards of the homeowners and it shows the idiot homeowners pointing and waving and using threatening gestures with their weapons - clearly in violation of the law


you want to see how fair you are?

make the homeowners black doing the exact same thing and it would have swiftly evolved into a shootout- either with a mob member or the police themselves


there is ZERO chance black homeowners would be alive or free today if that had been the case and you are dishonest if you deny this.

[TXstbobcat]

Wasn’t breaking down the gate a violation of the law?

[Trill Clinton]

Glad they got charged. They tried to escalate a peaceful protest...thank God noone was hurt or killed because of their reckless and childish behavior. Acting like some straight up thugs to a bunch of gay and lesbian protestors smh.


This is all the prosecutor is asking for. Kids where I'm from get jail time for a lot less:

1285335538548051968

[pgardn]

Im trying to figure out why other neighbors did not get their arms out and brandish them?
Or did they? Any interviews with the neighbors? Or was the mob just after this one couple?

[Spurtacular]

:lmao “bare” arms
:lmao Derp

Great job at not seeing my posts cos I'm on "ignore."

:lmao You read every single one, slob. :lmao

[TXstbobcat]

If this was a peaceful and legal protest, why was there a need to breakdown the gate???

[Spurtacular]

Did the protesters enter the couple's actual property?

Tell us.

[Spurtacular]

If this was a peaceful and legal protest, why was there a need to breakdown the gate???

Board cuckold thinks he knows.

Tell him, blake.

[pgardn]

If this was a peaceful and legal protest, why was there a need to breakdown the gate???

They could have just waited behind a car going thru that opened the gate.
Big dummies. People do that all the time who dont want to press numbers or just want in.

[pgardn]

Im trying to figure out why other neighbors did not get their arms out and brandish them?
Or did they? Any interviews with the neighbors? Or was the mob just after this one couple?

[Trill Clinton]

If this was a peaceful and legal protest, why was there a need to breakdown the gate???

Okay well charge the person(s) who broke gate. Who gives a fuck about the gate? The protest was peaceful and the couple broke the law. Plain and simple.

[Spurtacular]

They could have just waited behind a car going thru that opened the gate.
Big dummies. People do that all the time who dont want to press numbers or just want in.

What do you think it matters how they invaded?

[TXstbobcat]

Okay well charge the person(s) who broke gate. Who gives a fuck about the gate? The protest was peaceful and the couple broke the law. Plain and simple.

normal people with peaceful intentions.don't have the need to destroy the gate to enter the community. Why didn’t they protest legally outside of the gated area???

[Spurtacular]

normal people with peaceful intentions.don't have the need to destroy the gate to enter the community. Why didn’t they protest legally outside of the gated area???

The chumpette cuckolds have various theories that the gate was not knocked down and these were peaceful passers-by.

[Reck]

I like how the gate is the linch pin for the justification (Which is still wrong and this couple should indeed face charges for it) these right wingers are using like it absolves everything.

[spurraider21]

normal people with peaceful intentions.don't have the need to destroy the gate to enter the community. Why didn’t they protest legally outside of the gated area???
Protests are meant to be agitative by nature. If they can identify who damages the fate, let them deal with a property damage claim. The people walking on the street were not making any threat to the homeowners and weren’t on or approaching their property. Instead they started yelling and pointing weapons at people who were walking right by their residence.

[Trill Clinton]

normal people with peaceful intentions.don't have the need to destroy the gate to enter the community. Why didn’t they protest legally outside of the gated area???

They did protest peacefully. Normal people don't wave guns in a threatening manner at unarmed people. Whoever broke the gate needs to pay to get it fixed and that couple needs to be charged as well.

[Spurs Homer]

If this was a peaceful and legal protest, why was there a need to breakdown the gate???


to defend yourself and legally brandish a weapon
there has to be “imminent” danger to your life or someone else and you are there and need to stop someone or yourself from immediate harm


look at the video - no one within view of the idiot homeowners

the gate is not causing imminent loss of life to anyone


had the homeowners hunkered down inside their home and the mob broken in and charged at them


then they might have a case

[Spurtacular]

I like how the gate is the linch pin for the justification (Which is still wrong and this couple should indeed face charges for it) these right wingers are using like it absolves everything.

The right to bear arms is the lynch pin. Do you not believe in the second amendment?

[Spurtacular]

Protests are meant to be agitative by nature. If they can identify who damages the fate, let them deal with a property damage claim. The people walking on the street were not making any threat to the homeowners and weren’t on or approaching their property. Instead they started yelling and pointing weapons at people who were walking right by their residence.

:cry It was a peaceful mob :cry

[Spurtacular]

to defend yourself and legally brandish a weapon
there has to be “imminent” danger to your life or someone else and you are there and need to stop someone or yourself from immediate harm


look at the video - no one within view of the idiot homeowners

the gate is not causing imminent loss of life to anyone


had the homeowners hunkered down inside their home and the mob broken in and charged at them


then they might have a case

THEY'RE BITCHES FOR NOT BUNKERING DOWN!
TRUMP'S A BITCH FOR BUNKERING DOWN!

TheGreatYacht Moar double takes from the chumpettes

[CosmicCowboy]

They had every right to sit on their porch with guns. Where they fucked up was pointing them. Vandalizing their property (the gate) wasn't adequate justification. That being said, charging them with a felony was stupid. A misdemeanor would have been more reasonable as well as charging the people who broke down the gate.

[Spurtacular]

They did protest peacefully. Normal people don't wave guns in a threatening manner at unarmed people. Whoever broke the gate needs to pay to get it fixed and that couple needs to be charged as well.


Glad they got charged. They tried to escalate a peaceful protest...thank God noone was hurt or killed because of their reckless and childish behavior. Acting like some straight up thugs to a bunch of gay and lesbian protestors smh.


Okay well charge the person(s) who broke gate. Who gives a fuck about the gate? The protest was peaceful and the couple broke the law. Plain and simple.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBelT-Xi1CY

[Spurtacular]

They had every right to sit on their porch with guns. Where they fucked up was pointing them. Vandalizing their property (the gate) wasn't adequate justification. That being said, charging them with a felony was stupid. A misdemeanor would have been more reasonable as well as charging the people who broke down the gate.

Nobody responsible for creating this situation is being charged. This is just a racist prosecutor taking out her racism on whitey.

[baseline bum]

Who would have known pointing a gun at someone not threatening you would be a crime? You don't point a gun at someone unless you're ready to follow through and shoot. I wouldn't bring charges against the husband but the wife? Definitely.

[TXstbobcat]

Protests are meant to be agitative by nature. If they can identify who damages the fate, let them deal with a property damage claim. The people walking on the street were not making any threat to the homeowners and weren’t on or approaching their property. Instead they started yelling and pointing weapons at people who were walking right by their residence.

unfortunately those agitative actions brought out the dangerous illegal scared response. Fortunately no one got hurt.

[spurraider21]

They had every right to sit on their porch with guns. Where they fucked up was pointing them. Vandalizing their property (the gate) wasn't adequate justification. That being said, charging them with a felony was stupid. A misdemeanor would have been more reasonable as well as charging the people who broke down the gate.
1285335538548051968

to my knowledge if they participate in this program it wipes the felony

[Spurtacular]

Who would have known pointing a gun at someone not threatening you would be a crime? You don't point a gun at someone unless you're ready to follow through and shoot. I wouldn't bring charges against the husband but the wife? Definitely.

:cry #MobRights #TrespasserRights :cry

[Spurs Homer]

THEY'RE BITCHES FOR Waving weapons when not even in any danger!
TRUMP'S A BITCH - PERIOD!

TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) Moar double takes from the chumpettes



fify

[Spurtacular]

fify

You already exposed yourself.

These chumpettes are just extensions of the mob.

TheGreatYacht

[Spurtacular]

Who would have known pointing a gun at someone not threatening you would be a crime?

Not I. I never would've imagined that a trespassing mob would be afforded such protections.

Silly me. I thought we had a Bill Of Rights.

[FrostKing]

The video is all you need to see...

IF the “mob” “protesters “ were approaching or trying to enter the private home

THAT - would have given the homeowners the right to brandish their weapons...

the video shows NO ONE within 20-25 yards of the homeowners and it shows the idiot homeowners pointing and waving and using threatening gestures with their weapons - clearly in violation of the law


you want to see how fair you are?

make the homeowners black doing the exact same thing and it would have swiftly evolved into a shootout- either with a mob member or the police themselves


there is ZERO chance black homeowners would be alive or free today if that had been the case and you are dishonest if you deny this.
When is the last time you saw Ku Klux Klan randomly marching thru a neighborhood

Sort of the point here

[baseline bum]

Not I. I never would've imagined that a trespassing mob would be afforded such protections.

Silly me. I thought we had a Bill Of Rights.

Trump suspends the first amendment and you want to cry about the bill of rights :lmao

[Spurtacular]

When is the last time you saw Ku Klux Klan randomly marching thru a neighborhood

Sort of the point here

Chumpettes wouldn't be calling them "peaceful protesters" in such a case.

They love their double takes.

[Spurtacular]

Trump suspends the first amendment and you want to cry about the bill of rights :lmao

So you're saying you believe in it 'til you don't.

Cos Orange Man bad, these people don't have their Constitutional rights.

Good job, blakeline bum. It's always good for you to document your idiocy.

[Monostradamus]

This message is hidden because Spurtacular is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).
:lmao

[clambake]

People fleeing from white bullets damaged the gate.

[Spurtacular]

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:lmao

Oh, look; Slob voted this up with his fake black man alt.

[Spurs Homer]

When is the last time you saw Ku Klux Klan randomly marching thru a neighborhood

Sort of the point here


charlottesville


and the nazi in chief defended/celebrated their nazi tactics

[Blake]

"....It was a huge and frightening crowd. They had broken the gate and were coming at us," Mark McCloskey told 5 On Your Side, explaining the videos that show him and his wife aiming a rifle and pistol respectively at the crowd.

But video from early in the incident shows a man holding open the left side of the gate while the right door is fully intact and upright.

"I didn’t see anything violent. I didn’t see anything wild from my perspective. I did see somebody open the door, and they walk into a gated community. I didn’t see anything broken or property being damaged," Maxi Glamour said....

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/video-shows-gate-was-intact-when-cwe-couple-pointed-guns-at-protesters/63-14a1582a-9372-4494-b8ee-41d5d4d71b61

I posted this last night.

Some of you guys are fucking morons. I think you know who you are.

[Blake]

When is the last time you saw Ku Klux Klan randomly marching thru a neighborhood

Sort of the point here

When was the last time you saw a KKK member begging a cop to let him breathe

[Blake]

If it is a private street the homeowner would own the street in conjunction with the other residents. My house at the lake is on a private street and my deed clearly defines the metes and bounds of the property that is exclusively mine and the metes and bounds of the property (including the street) that I own jointly with my two neighbors..

The HOA probably owns and maintains the street, so no, the castle doctrine doesn't apply that way.

[ChumpDumper]

If it is a private street the homeowner would own the street in conjunction with the other residents. My house at the lake is on a private street and my deed clearly defines the metes and bounds of the property that is exclusively mine and the metes and bounds of the property (including the street) that I own jointly with my two neighbors..You have the right to shoot someone walking down your street if you feel trhetened?

[Monostradamus]

This message is hidden because Spurtacular is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).
:lmao still replying to me

[TSA]

This message is hidden because Spurtacular is on your ignore list (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/profile.php?do=ignorelist).
:lmao still replying to me

I’ve got you beat with Chumpdumper still replying to me for now over a year :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

I have to quote the stuff I'm commenting on. Would be confusing without the context. I can take the post number out so it doesn't trigger the poster I guess.

[Reck]

See, this is why I had to make it so I only see notifications from my friend's list.

What a shitty system where you still get quotes from people you have on your ignore list.

[ducks]

"And, what it says is that you have the right to defend yourself, the lives of your family members, your home, and your property. That extends to your property. So, this is on private property," he said.

Schmitt noted that in a time where residents are calling to defund the police and "violence [is] spinning out of control" in places like St. Louis, "somebody [has] got to do something about" prosectors like Circuit Attorney Kim Gardner who are "targeting law-abiding citizens for exercising their fundamental right of self-defense."

[Chris]

if protesters were actually getting on their property or threatening the couple, this would be quite different. if an angry mob walked right by your house, much like how you dont have the authority to just snipe passer-byers off, you also dont have a right to point your weapon at them in a threatening manner. it's just a lesser offense.

You actually do have the right to brandish your weapon. You didn't read my post from the AG...

[CosmicCowboy]

The HOA probably owns and maintains the street, so no, the castle doctrine doesn't apply that way.

I didn't call castle doctrine. I said if it was a private road the mob was clearly trespassing.

[RandomGuy]

You actually do have the right to brandish your weapon. You didn't read my post from the AG...

no.

[RandomGuy]

:cry #MobRights #TrespasserRights :cry

Feel free to show where anyone was actually on their property. None of the available footage shows that. If they were smart they would have had their own cellphones out instead of guns. :lol lawyers.

https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/st-louis-crazy-couple.jpg

Mustard stain on her shirt was a nice touch.

[Spurs Homer]

Feel free to show where anyone was actually on their property. None of the available footage shows that. If they were smart they would have had their own cellphones out instead of guns. :lol lawyers.

https://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/st-louis-crazy-couple.jpg

Mustard stain on her shirt was a nice touch.


fat bitch is lucky someone didnt shoot her the moment she began pointing the weapon

and

it would have been a justified killing

[CosmicCowboy]

By definition brandishing a weapon means you pointed it at someone. Based on the video both of them actually pointed their weapons...her more than him but they both did it.

[spurraider21]

You actually do have the right to brandish your weapon. You didn't read my post from the AG...
HQ special

[Spurtacular]

Feel free to show where anyone was actually on their property. None of the available footage shows that.

Are you fucking retarded? You can see it right off the bat. That's their property the rioters are on. That's not the street, which is way further back.
TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) See, these chumpettes don't bother to learn the simplest things as they call for their mob justice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbzg_2nI8Z8

[SpursforSix]

By definition brandishing a weapon means you pointed it at someone. Based on the video both of them actually pointed their weapons...her more than him but they both did it.

Wrong per Merriam Webster.

I'll file this one just under your cow fart take.

[spurraider21]

nothing there demonstrates that any of the protestors were on their property. looks like they were on the sidewalk at best. in fact its clear they were just walking by it and moving along the whole time, all the while these people are pointing guns at them

[Chris]

HQ special

be better

[spurraider21]

be better
is it your opinion that the prosecutor is making this case political and the AG is not?

[Chris]

is it your opinion that the prosecutor is making this case political and the AG is not?

that's obvious

[SpursforSix]

nothing there demonstrates that any of the protestors were on their property. looks like they were on the sidewalk at best. in fact its clear they were just walking by it and moving along the whole time, all the while these people are pointing guns at them

agree. looks like the sidewalk.

[CosmicCowboy]

The HOA probably owns and maintains the street, so no, the castle doctrine doesn't apply that way.

The HOA has nothing to do with the technical ownership of the private street. They might administrate the repairs and make the assessments but the homeowners own the streets.

[spurraider21]

that's obvious
sad to see it

[SpursforSix]

The HOA has nothing to do with the technical ownership of the private street. They might administrate the repairs and make the assessments but the homeowners own the streets.

LOL. You don't know that unless you've read that particular HOA's documents in light of Missouri state law. Which I doubt you did.

[spurraider21]

The HOA has nothing to do with the technical ownership of the private street. They might administrate the repairs and make the assessments but the homeowners own the streets.
dont think it works that way though. can i, as a homeowner, run up and down the street and use the castle doctrine 200 feet away from my house?

[RandomGuy]

By definition brandishing a weapon means you pointed it at someone. Based on the video both of them actually pointed their weapons...her more than him but they both did it.

eyup. Felonies both, caught in video. Tone at the top matters. The right wing propaganda machine cranking out "rioter" porn 24/7 created the environment where otherwise intelligent people go out of their minds.

[RandomGuy]

LOL. You don't know that unless you've read that particular HOA's documents. Which I doubt you did.

Having read the HOA docas for my own HOA, I know exactly which streets are owned by the HOA and which are owned by the county. The corporation owns some of them, and sets aside money in the budget for their repairs.

I would imagine it would be the same, especially in a gated community. It would pretty much have to be that way if you are putting up a gate. I don't imagine it could possibly be legal to block off a public road like that.

[Spurtacular]

nothing there demonstrates that any of the protestors were on their property. looks like they were on the sidewalk at best. in fact its clear they were just walking by it and moving along the whole time, all the while these people are pointing guns at them

That's not a public sidewalk. That's well onto their private estate, putz.
TheGreatYacht Chumpette mob doesn't care about the most basic facts.

[CosmicCowboy]

dont think it works that way though. can i, as a homeowner, run up and down the street and use the castle doctrine 200 feet away from my house?

I never said they could use castle doctrine.. I said technically the mob was trespassing. You can't shoot them for just trespassing (which they didn't).

[spurraider21]

That's not a public sidewalk. That's well onto their private estate, putz.
TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) Chumpette mob doesn't care about the most basic facts.
obviously they walked through the gate into the private community. nobody denied that.

keep comfort tagging Yauschwitz

[Spurtacular]

eyup. Felonies both, caught in video. Tone at the top matters. The right wing propaganda machine cranking out "rioter" porn 24/7 created the environment where otherwise intelligent people go out of their minds.

You're just happily moving on from your public street sh** cos all these rioters were invading their private property.
Dumb fuck.

[SpursforSix]

Having read the HOA docas for my own HOA, I know exactly which streets are owned by the HOA and which are owned by the county. The corporation owns some of them, and sets aside money in the budget for their repairs.

I would imagine it would be the same, especially in a gated community. It would pretty much have to be that way if you are putting up a gate. I don't imagine it could possibly be legal to block off a public road like that.

It's not all the same though. It varies from HOA to HOA and from state to state. It may turn out be the case but for CC to state it as fact without really knowing is presumptuous.
It wasn't that long ago that he proclaimed that "cows don't fart".

[spurraider21]

I never said they could use castle doctrine.. I said technically the mob was trespassing. You can't shoot them for just trespassing (which they didn't).
i know you didn't, i'm just saying you cant use the collective ownership of the plot as a justification to act like they did

[Spurtacular]

obviously they walked through the gate into the private community. nobody denied that.

keep comfort tagging Yauschwitz

Yea, they busted a gate and invaded private property.
These mobilized idiots are lucky that the McCloskeys showed restraint and nobody was killed.

[SpursforSix]

And here's a decent commentary about why this may not be a cut and dry issue.

https://www.thetrace.org/2020/07/armed-st-louis-missouri-couple-threat-brandishing-self-defense/

[SpursforSix]

Yea, they busted a gate and invaded private property.
These mobilized idiots are lucky that the McCloskeys showed restraint and nobody was killed.

lol...what? Restraint is looking out the window of your mansion and then getting back to scolding your maid.

[spurraider21]

Yea, they busted a gate and invaded private property.
These mobilized idiots are lucky that the McCloskeys showed restraint and nobody was killed.
they gate was busted after the fact. the video footage shows them walking through a gate that was just opened along its hinges. there are photos after the fact showing the gate bent down/bent over... but that doesnt match the video footage which shows them walking in in the first place. not saying that the property damage should go unpunished, should they identify the person(s) who participated

[TSA]

dont think it works that way though. can i, as a homeowner, run up and down the street and use the castle doctrine 200 feet away from my house?

It's up for debate.

Law professors differed over whether the McCloskeys were protected by Missouri’s castle doctrine.

Anders Walker, a professor at the St. Louis University School of Law, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that the castle doctrine in the state allows the couple to defend their property on a private street.

“At any point that you enter the property, they can then, in Missouri, use deadly force to get you off the lawn,” Walker said. He described the castle doctrine as a “force field” that “indemnifies you, and you can even pull the trigger in Missouri.”

But Corey Rayburn Yung, a professor at the University of Kansas School of Law, said the castle doctrine in Missouri is expansive, but it doesn’t allow the use of deadly force in this situation, according to LawandCrime.com. He made his comments in a series of tweets.

“Whereas the large majority of jurisdictions limit the castle doctrine to the boundaries of the house, MO’s is more expansive,” Yung tweeted. “Some commenters are reading the statute to mean that you could lawfully shoot someone who stepped onto your lawn. Despite the availability of signs saying, ‘Trespassers will be shot,’ mere trespass has not historically been a basis for using deadly force. So, does MO’s statute represent a new trend, allowing expansive use of deadly force to protect private property? No.”

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/are-lawyers-who-pointed-guns-at-protesters-protected-by-the-castle-doctrine

And both the prosecutor and the AG made it political.

[ChumpDumper]

When were they on the lawn?

[spurraider21]

It's up for debate.

Law professors differed over whether the McCloskeys were protected by Missouri’s castle doctrine.

Anders Walker, a professor at the St. Louis University School of Law, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that the castle doctrine in the state allows the couple to defend their property on a private street.

“At any point that you enter the property, they can then, in Missouri, use deadly force to get you off the lawn,” Walker said. He described the castle doctrine as a “force field” that “indemnifies you, and you can even pull the trigger in Missouri.”

But Corey Rayburn Yung, a professor at the University of Kansas School of Law, said the castle doctrine in Missouri is expansive, but it doesn’t allow the use of deadly force in this situation, according to LawandCrime.com. He made his comments in a series of tweets.

“Whereas the large majority of jurisdictions limit the castle doctrine to the boundaries of the house, MO’s is more expansive,” Yung tweeted. “Some commenters are reading the statute to mean that you could lawfully shoot someone who stepped onto your lawn. Despite the availability of signs saying, ‘Trespassers will be shot,’ mere trespass has not historically been a basis for using deadly force. So, does MO’s statute represent a new trend, allowing expansive use of deadly force to protect private property? No.”

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/are-lawyers-who-pointed-guns-at-protesters-protected-by-the-castle-doctrine

And both the prosecutor and the AG made it political.
agree that the case might not be cut and dry (though "lawn" implies their specific property and not just the general street), and agree that it's been politicized all around. i still dont think you can run up and down the street claiming castle doctrine the whole time

prosecutor pushing towards the "diversion program" shows they just want this to go away without looking like they're folding, imo.

[SpursforSix]

It's up for debate.

Law professors differed over whether the McCloskeys were protected by Missouri’s castle doctrine.

Anders Walker, a professor at the St. Louis University School of Law, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch that the castle doctrine in the state allows the couple to defend their property on a private street.

“At any point that you enter the property, they can then, in Missouri, use deadly force to get you off the lawn,” Walker said. He described the castle doctrine as a “force field” that “indemnifies you, and you can even pull the trigger in Missouri.”

But Corey Rayburn Yung, a professor at the University of Kansas School of Law, said the castle doctrine in Missouri is expansive, but it doesn’t allow the use of deadly force in this situation, according to LawandCrime.com. He made his comments in a series of tweets.

“Whereas the large majority of jurisdictions limit the castle doctrine to the boundaries of the house, MO’s is more expansive,” Yung tweeted. “Some commenters are reading the statute to mean that you could lawfully shoot someone who stepped onto your lawn. Despite the availability of signs saying, ‘Trespassers will be shot,’ mere trespass has not historically been a basis for using deadly force. So, does MO’s statute represent a new trend, allowing expansive use of deadly force to protect private property? No.”

https://www.abajournal.com/news/article/are-lawyers-who-pointed-guns-at-protesters-protected-by-the-castle-doctrine

And both the prosecutor and the AG made it political.

I'm not sure if running up and down the street and claiming castle doctrine is really debatable.

[Spurtacular]

they gate was busted after the fact. the video footage shows them walking through a gate that was just opened along its hinges. there are photos after the fact showing the gate bent down/bent over... but that doesnt match the video footage which shows them walking in in the first place. not saying that the property damage should go unpunished, should they identify the person(s) who participated

Post this alleged footage of them going through the allegedly not busted gate.

[ChumpDumper]

Post this alleged footage of them going through the allegedly not busted gate.You already posted it.

Would you like a link to the video you posted?

[CosmicCowboy]

It's not all the same though. It varies from HOA to HOA and from state to state. It may turn out be the case but for CC to state it as fact without really knowing is presumptuous.
It wasn't that long ago that he proclaimed that "cows don't fart".

You fucking dumbass. I said the majority of bovine methane emissions comes from belches, not farts. Scientific fact, asshole.

[spurraider21]

Post this alleged footage of them going through the allegedly not busted gate.

you already did. look at 7:09 of the video below



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbzg_2nI8Z8

and notice how both the gates (though one is swung open) are still upright, in tact. compare that to the image below, which is clearly after the fact. not excusing the breaking of the gate, but they didnt bust the gate down to get in, clearly



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ebr3LaAWsAIJq0H.jpg

[SpursforSix]

You fucking dumbass. I said the majority of bovine methane emissions comes from belches, not farts. Scientific fact, asshole.

Not what you said. You said, "cows don't fart". I can find it if you want.

[Chris]

The "protestors" threatened to kill their dog.

[TXstbobcat]

Isn’t access to a gated community like this restricted to only those that live in the community, those that are invited by the homeowners that live in the community, and workers doing repairs or maintenance on the homes or grounds?

in an upscale gated community like this, isn't there private security to handle this type of situation?

In this situation, I would think it would be safer to stay in the house and turn on the security system as opposed to going outside with weapons.

[RandomGuy]

You already posted it.

Would you like a link to the video you posted?

:rollin

7:09 indeed.

[RandomGuy]

Isn’t access to a gated community like this restricted to only those that live in the community, those that are invited by the homeowners that live in the community, and workers doing repairs or maintenance on the homes or grounds?

in an upscale gated community like this, isn't there private security to handle this type of situation?

In this situation, I would think it would be safer to stay in the house and turn on the security system as opposed to going outside with weapons.

Private security is a big expense. I can't think of a single gated community I have seen in central Texas with manned security booths.

[SpursforSix]

You fucking dumbass. I said the majority of bovine methane emissions comes from belches, not farts. Scientific fact, asshole.

Here...maybe this will jog your memory...


Technically, they don't fart. They belch.

It's funny that you can't just admit your were wrong.

[Chris]

Didn't realize we had so many posters against 2A, but there it is.

[ChumpDumper]

Didn't realize we had so many posters against 2A, but there it is.:lol you didn't even know how Congress is apportioned. Don't try to talk about the Constitution. There it is.

[TXstbobcat]

Private security is a big expense. I can't think of a single gated community I have seen in central Texas with manned security booths.

the only one I know of here in San Antonio that has a security booth With a guard is the Dominion. The gated community I live in doesn’t have a guard at the gate but there is security that drives around the neighborhood.

[Chris]

:lol you didn't even know how Congress is apportioned. Don't try to talk about the Constitution. There it is.

nice revisionist history

Trump pushed the button. I schooled said poster on such.

You didn't like it.

[CosmicCowboy]

Not what you said. You said, "cows don't fart". I can find it if you want.

:lmao


please please please waste you time doing that dumbass. Winning the internet is really important to you, isn't it? Kinda sad.

[SpursforSix]

Private security is a big expense. I can't think of a single gated community I have seen in central Texas with manned security booths.

I only know of one in this area. And it's a f'ing hassle. You have to give them your license and they write down the number. They also write down your tag info. And they ask you the name and address of people you're going to see.

[ChumpDumper]

nice revisionist history

Trump pushed the button. I schooled said poster on such.

You didn't like it.All you did was prove you have no idea what the Constitution actually says.

You didn't like it.

[SpursforSix]

:lmao


please please please waste you time doing that dumbass. Winning the internet is really important to you, isn't it? Kinda sad.

It's no problem. Know-it-alls that can't even admit they were wrong on a message board are one of the banes of my online existence.

[CosmicCowboy]

Here...maybe this will jog your memory...



It's funny that you can't just admit your were wrong.

Ruminant livestock – cattle, sheep, buffalo, goats, deer and camels – have a fore-stomach (or rumen) containing microbes called methanogens, which are capable of digesting coarse plant material and which produce methane as a by-product of digestion (enteric fermentation): this methane is released to the atmosphere by the animal belching.

[TXstbobcat]

I only know of one in this area. And it's a f'ing hassle. You have to give them your license and they write down the number. They also write down your tag info. And they ask you the name and address of people you're going to see.

sounds like the dominion.

[SpursforSix]

Ruminant livestock – cattle, sheep, buffalo, goats, deer and camels – have a fore-stomach (or rumen) containing microbes called methanogens, which are capable of digesting coarse plant material and which produce methane as a by-product of digestion (enteric fermentation): this methane is released to the atmosphere by the animal belching.

So are you standing by your comment, "technically they don't fart"?

Because technically, they do.

[spurraider21]

Ruminant livestock – cattle, sheep, buffalo, goats, deer and camels – have a fore-stomach (or rumen) containing microbes called methanogens, which are capable of digesting coarse plant material and which produce methane as a by-product of digestion (enteric fermentation): this methane is released to the atmosphere by the animal belching.
just say you weren't technically correct when you said that they technically dont fart. to be frank i thought you had already done so a while back :lol

[SpursforSix]

sounds like the dominion.

This one's in Fort Worth. And those fuckers wouldn't let me in with a passport and temporary paper license.

[SpursforSix]

just say you weren't technically correct when you said that they technically dont fart. to be frank i thought you had already done so a while back :lol

:lol

nope....I don't think he ever did.
I wouldn't be such an a-hole about it if that was the case.

[pgardn]

What do you think it matters how they invaded?

I don't.

Its a horrible joke ya big fckn clown.

[Blake]

I didn't call castle doctrine. I said if it was a private road the mob was clearly trespassing.

Castle doctrine is basically the point of this thread.

Trespassing is a different matter. They weren't trespassing on those homeowners' property.

[pgardn]

There are multiple gated communities that have guards in SA.

Many guards are only part time but some are full time.
It is very expensive but they get tips and lots of presents for Xmas.
I guess I have more friends that like to hide in a medieval fortress like compound that only works for keeping heavy traffic out. If they get ripped off it's usually by the workers they have let in during the day to fix their individual fortress. Or even more common the kids themselves that live in dat hood.

Silly stuff.

[Blake]

Are you fucking retarded? You can see it right off the bat. That's their property the rioters are on. That's not the street, which is way further back.
TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) See, these chumpettes don't bother to learn the simplest things as they call for their mob justice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbzg_2nI8Z8

Lol derp watches The View

[pgardn]

Im trying to figure out why other neighbors did not get their arms out and brandish them?
Or did they? Any interviews with the neighbors? Or was the mob just after this one couple?

Derp this is the real thing.
You got any answers?

[Blake]

Having read the HOA docas for my own HOA, I know exactly which streets are owned by the HOA and which are owned by the county. The corporation owns some of them, and sets aside money in the budget for their repairs.

I would imagine it would be the same, especially in a gated community. It would pretty much have to be that way if you are putting up a gate. I don't imagine it could possibly be legal to block off a public road like that.

And when you move out, you don't get to sell the 1/250 part of the private streets you "own"

[pgardn]

Actually I would think this would piss off homeowners who are serious about guns. The act of pulling them is not a joke. If this really was a retarded over reaction, which it's seems to be, someone or people who is/are serious about a threat just got an excuse for testing a homeowner.

[pgardn]

And when you move out, you don't get to sell the 1/250 part of the private streets you "own"

Sounds correct because you don't get reimbursed for the multiple times a new gate has to be put up (and the HOA pays) because a homeowner rams it accidentally.

[SpursforSix]

Are you fucking retarded? You can see it right off the bat. That's their property the rioters are on. That's not the street, which is way further back.
TheGreatYacht (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=43719) See, these chumpettes don't bother to learn the simplest things as they call for their mob justice.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbzg_2nI8Z8

It’s the sidewalk that they’re on. I don’t know if it’s been determined that they own the sidewalk.

[Blake]

That's not a public sidewalk. That's well onto their private estate, putz.
TheGreatYacht Chumpette mob doesn't care about the most basic facts.

What do you think sidewalks are for, dummy?

[Spurtacular]

Lol derp watches The View

I just took a video that showed the incident.

You can go on your cuckfense all you want.

Do you think you won't be a weak man at the end of the day?

[Spurtacular]

What do you think sidewalks are for, dummy?

The mob invaded private grounds, snowflake.
Come to terms.

[Blake]

the only one I know of here in San Antonio that has a security booth With a guard is the Dominion. The gated community I live in doesn’t have a guard at the gate but there is security that drives around the neighborhood.

Lol you don't get around SA very much

[Blake]

I just took a video that showed the incident.

You can go on your cuckfense all you want.

Do you think you won't be a weak man at the end of the day?

But you watch the View tho

[Spurtacular]

Lol you don't get around SA very much

And get to your point...

[Blake]

The mob invaded private grounds, snowflake.
Come to terms.

Derp buzzword flailing around without answering the question. Just another day.

[Blake]

And get to your point...

The point is obvious, dipshit.

[Spurtacular]

But you watch the View tho

I don't go looking for another video just because its 'The View'.
Why would I need to? Because I'm worried about your cucky talking points? :lol

[Spurtacular]

The point is obvious, dipshit.

Not really. Use your words.

[Blake]

The mob invaded private grounds, snowflake.
Come to terms.

Everyone's lucky they didn't get popped. The protesters are still alive and the home owner is "only" being charged with brandishing a gun

[Blake]

Not really. Use your words.

You struggle to read words tho.

[Blake]

Sounds correct because you don't get reimbursed for the multiple times a new gate has to be put up (and the HOA pays) because a homeowner rams it accidentally.

Pretty much the same thing with public streets.

Gated communities with mandatory HOAs are pretty much like little municipalities. Almost like you're getting taxed twice.

[FrostKing]

The "protestors" threatened to kill their dog.
But is the dog mixed breed

[Blake]

The "protestors" threatened to kill their dog.

From the sidewalk?

[Nathan89]

The left won't be satisfied until all dissenters to their cult are hog tied with their ass in the air. It's becoming nearly impossible to defend against the attack on all fronts from this pervasive ideology. If the average American knew about a fraction of the bullshit taking place their mind would explode. But the average American is consuming propaganda positioning people burning down buildings and beating/killing people as peaceful protesters.

[Blake]

Oh hey a Nathan narrative

[Black Stan]

The left was be satisfied until all dissenters to their cult are hog tied with their ass in the air. It's becoming nearly impossible to defend against the attack on all fronts from this pervasive ideology. If the average American knew about a fraction of the bullshit taking place their mind would explode. But the average American is consuming propaganda positioning people burning down buildings and beating/killing people as peaceful protesters.

what about George Jetson?

[DMC]

what about George Jetson?

What about Leroy Jetson?

[DMC]

Okay well charge the person(s) who broke gate. Who gives a fuck about the gate? The protest was peaceful and the couple broke the law. Plain and simple.
Fallacy of the beard. The protest was peaceful but the rioters weren't part of the protest, and as someone who is part of the protest is seen to be breaking shit, that person isn't part of the protest. So it was a peaceful protest regardless the outcome.

[Blake]

Fallacy of the beard. The protest was peaceful but the rioters weren't part of the protest, and as someone who is part of the protest is seen to be breaking shit, that person isn't part of the protest. So it was a peaceful protest regardless the outcome.

False narrative of what happened

[TheGreatYacht]

That's not a public sidewalk. That's well onto their private estate, putz.
TheGreatYacht Chumpette mob doesn't care about the most basic facts.

The event was probably staged bruh...crisis actors. I'll be honest, I haven't taken a look at the footage

[Blake]

The event was probably staged bruh...crisis actors. I'll be honest, I haven't taken a look at the footage

:lol "staged"

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol "staged"

MSM is notoriously known for such tactics to stir the pot in their race propaganda. You guys fall for it everytime.

[Vito Corleone]

It blows me away how ignorant of the law people are.

If you live in a gated community, it is 100% private property, its streets are wholly owned by the development and thus private property. The home owners pay for those streets and thus if you are there without consent of a home owner you are trespassing.

Now with that said, I don't know the laws in Missouri, but the homeowners are will within their rights to protect their property and the community in general because it is private property.

Now the rest is he said she said, but they did point their weapons at the crowd, that is a huge mistake and is an act of assault. Know your gun laws people, unless you are in danger you cannot point a gun at someone. Here in Texas we are a stand your ground state, you can shoot if you are threatened and that includes your property. I didn't see in the video anyone threatening them so there is a case against the couple. However with the fact that they did break down the gate and the violent history of the rioters, there is enough cause to point your weapon might be enough to even fire. The big problem is that the courts are libtards and they don't care about the laws if it goes against their political beliefs.

[ChumpDumper]

It blows me away how ignorant of the law people are.

If you live in a gated community, it is 100% private property, its streets are wholly owned by the development and thus private property. The home owners pay for those streets and thus if you are there without consent of a home owner you are trespassing.

Now with that said, I don't know the laws in Missouri, but the homeowners are will within their rights to protect their property and the community in general because it is private property.

Now the rest is he said she said, but they did point their weapons at the crowd, that is a huge mistake and is an act of assault. Know your gun laws people, unless you are in danger you cannot point a gun at someone. Here in Texas we are a stand your ground state, you can shoot if you are threatened and that includes your property. I didn't see in the video anyone threatening them so there is a case against the couple. However with the fact that they did break down the gate and the violent history of the rioters, there is enough cause to point your weapon might be enough to even fire. The big problem is that the courts are libtards and they don't care about the laws if it goes against their political beliefs.They didn't break down the gate going in.

[Vito Corleone]

They didn't break down the gate going in.

That is bullshit and you know it. Don't try to play the fool, I know you really are, but those ass hats broke it down.

But lets say they didn't break it down.

If I leave my front door open do you have the right to come in? I can tell you if you do you will get shot and i won't go to jail. Those are not public streets they are private and without authorization of a homeowner they have no right to enter those grounds. The point is moot.

[ChumpDumper]

That is bullshit and you know it. It's right there in the video.

[Vito Corleone]

We both know they were broken by the rioters before the herd got there. They knew exactly where they were going and how they would get there.

Again moot point, the street is not public, it is private they have no rights to be there. I would have egged the rioters on enough for them to do something to me or my property so I could start firing. But I have a lot more guns than they have and I have a lot bigger magazines in my guns. I specifically would have been aiming for the white people as I see them as the real problem. Race traitors.

[ChumpDumper]

We both know they were broken by the rioters before the herd got there.No, the video is right there if you care to watch it.

But good on you for actively wanting to kill them.

[spurraider21]

here's the gate as people were walking in

https://thebulwark.com/app/uploads/2020/06/gate.jpg

here's the photo of the gate well after the fact

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/06/640/320/Broken-gate-2.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

[diego]

dont think it works that way though. can i, as a homeowner, run up and down the street and use the castle doctrine 200 feet away from my house?

the us does at its border, why not?

[Vito Corleone]

No, the video is right there if you care to watch it.

But good on you for actively wanting to kill them.

This country is in the middle of a civil war. Time to let the bodies hit the floor.

[Nbadan]

There is zero video proof that the protestors tore down the gate. We could also say that the gate was torn down by the homeowners themselves after they realized how stupid they were acting illegally pointing weapons at people legally within their right on private property...the gates were open and those homeowners need the consent of the homeowner's association to close the gate to people..the homeowner's association did not call the police

[ChumpDumper]

This country is in the middle of a civil war. Time to let the bodies hit the floor.So start shooting. What's stopping you?

[pgardn]

The event was probably staged bruh...crisis actors. I'll be honest, I haven't taken a look at the footage

Like the board needs YOUR insight into a video...

You would be the last person anyone would believe ya damn moonbat.

[pgardn]

This country is in the middle of a civil war. Time to let the bodies hit the floor.

Wow...

If we had any veterans alive from our real Civil War they would beat you senseless.

[Spurtacular]

The event was probably staged bruh...crisis actors. I'll be honest, I haven't taken a look at the footage

Including the McCloskys?

[Blake]

Including the McCloskys?

Lol even derp beat me to the obvious follow up question

[Blake]

It blows me away how ignorant of the law people are.

Now with that said, I don't know the laws in Missouri, but....

:lol

[RandomGuy]

That is bullshit and you know it. Don't try to play the fool, I know you really are, but those ass hats broke it down.

But lets say they didn't break it down.

If I leave my front door open do you have the right to come in? I can tell you if you do you will get shot and i won't go to jail. Those are not public streets they are private and without authorization of a homeowner they have no right to enter those grounds. The point is moot.

It's right there in the video, starts at 7:09

Personally I wouldn't put it past the rich asshats to purposefully fuck up the gate so they can claim it was the protestors.

[RandomGuy]

This country is in the middle of a civil war. Time to let the bodies hit the floor.

Boogaloo your ass right down and start killing people like the other right wing nutters that have ambushed and killed police, planted pipe bombs and planned more attacks. Be sure to talk about it in social media first.

:rollin

[DMC]

Gotta love how each side creates narratives and personalities for people they automatically don't like because of which side of the isle they vote from.

[Blake]

Gotta love how each side creates narratives and personalities for people they automatically don't like because of which side of the isle they vote from.

Yeah it's hilarious when you do that

[Spurtacular]

Lol even derp beat me to the obvious follow up question

You don't have an even anyone card. You're a cuckold.

Geez, get some fucking self awareness already.

[Spurtacular]

here's the gate as people were walking in

https://thebulwark.com/app/uploads/2020/06/gate.jpg

here's the photo of the gate well after the fact

https://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2020/06/640/320/Broken-gate-2.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

So you think someone decided to close it and break it?

[Blake]

You don't have an even anyone card. You're a cuckold.

Geez, get some fucking self awareness already.

Derp angry because he now realizes he crapped all over his bff

[Blake]

So you think someone decided to close it and break it?

Oh now it must be a conspiracy!

[Spurtacular]

Derp angry because he now realizes he crapped all over his bff

I asked a question to clarify his p.o.v. Your cuck take is incorrect.

[ChumpDumper]

So you think someone decided to close it and break it?You said they broke it to get in.

You proved they did not.

derp with the :lolwn g:lolal

[Spurtacular]

Oh now it must be a conspiracy!

Yea, Lite is posting a conspiracy.

[spurraider21]

So you think someone decided to close it and break it?
i dont know who broke it, when, or why.

but its pretty clear they didnt break the gate down to get in

[Spurtacular]

i dont know who broke it, when, or why.

but its pretty clear they didnt break the gate down to get in

That not clear at all. We don't know when the video was taken.

We don't know if these cucks were in there and then the gate was locked and then broken down by the rioters.

The picture of the broken gate suggests that it was locked when broken by force. Open gates are simply not broken in that manner.

[ChumpDumper]

That not clear at all. We don't know when the video was taken.:lmao your narrative

[Blake]

I asked a question to clarify his p.o.v. Your cuck take is incorrect.

BFF SHIELD RE-ENGAGE

[Blake]

That not clear at all. We don't know when the video was taken.

We don't know if these cucks were in there and then the gate was locked and then broken down by the rioters.

The picture of the broken gate suggests that it was locked when broken by force. Open gates are simply not broken in that manner.

Derp again with the conspiracy

[spurraider21]

That not clear at all. We don't know when the video was taken.

We don't know if these cucks were in there and then the gate was locked and then broken down by the rioters.

The picture of the broken gate suggests that it was locked when broken by force. Open gates are simply not broken in that manner.
dude, the video leads directly to the confrontation with the homeowners waving their guns around... at a time clearly before the gates were broken

[ChumpDumper]

derp cucked by his own video:lmao

[Spurtacular]

dude, the video leads directly to the confrontation with the homeowners waving their guns around... at a time clearly before the gates were broken

Post the video, then, and not a picture.

[ChumpDumper]

Post the video, then, and not a picture.derp

you

posted

the

video

[ChumpDumper]

You.

[Spurtacular]

derp

you

posted

the

video

I posted a video. I don't know what video he is referring to, ankle humper.

[ChumpDumper]

I posted a video. I don't know what video he is referring to, ankle humper.You never watched the video you posted.

You still haven't.

Why not?

[spurraider21]

Post the video, then, and not a picture.
good grief

anyway, here it is. starting from them walking through the clearly not broken in half gate. captures the first protestors entering the community (you cant see anybody else anywhere near the home in question, on the sidewalk or elsewhere) and they're already standing there armed, despite no gate having been broken down


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlv24XBc6HI

[Spurtacular]

good grief

anyway, here it is. starting from them walking through the clearly not broken in half gate. captures the first protestors entering the community (you cant see anybody else anywhere near the home in question, on the sidewalk or elsewhere) and they're already standing there armed, despite no gate having been broken down


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nlv24XBc6HI

They're standing their armed because a mob has entered a private estate and they're prepared to defend themselves and their property as provided for in the Constitution, snowflake.

[spurraider21]

They're standing their armed because a mob has entered a private estate and they're prepared to defend themselves and their property as provided for in the Constitution, snowflake.
but they werent standing armed because the mob broke down a gate to barge into their community, and their standing there armed had nothing to do with the photo of the bent-over gate

[Blake]

Lol derp is so stupid

[Spurtacular]

but they werent standing armed because the mob broke down a gate to barge into their community, and their standing there armed had nothing to do with the photo of the bent-over gate

Sure. That's why I didn't argue that.

[spurraider21]

Sure. That's why I didn't argue that.
so do you take this back?

Yea, Lite is posting a conspiracy.

[Spurtacular]

so do you take this back?

:lol Said that when you weren't claiming there was video evidence and were relying on a picture that could be from whenever.

If you're gonna do the earmarks, Lite.....

[spurraider21]

:lol Said that when you weren't claiming there was video evidence and were relying on a picture that could be from whenever.

If you're gonna do the earmarks, Lite.....
:lmao no... you had already posted the video and i pointed it out to you


Post this alleged footage of them going through the allegedly not busted gate.


you already did. look at 7:09 of the video below



and notice how both the gates (though one is swung open) are still upright, in tact. compare that to the image below, which is clearly after the fact. not excusing the breaking of the gate, but they didnt bust the gate down to get in, clearly
i'll nevertheless accept that you misspoke and i wasn't promoting a "conspiracy" because the video evidence was already there which i had referred to the entire time :tu

[Spurtacular]

:lmao no... you had already posted the video and i pointed it out to you

I posted a video that showed that they were on the property within 15 seconds. I have no idea if those crows showed the gate or not.
You relied on a flimsy pic instead of coming out with the video. For why I don't know why. But you really want a tiny w apparently.

[spurraider21]

I posted a video that showed that they were on the property within 15 seconds. I have no idea if those crows showed the gate or not. You relied on a flimsy pic instead of coming out with the vide. For why I don't know why. But you really want a tiny w apparently.

the breaking of the gate has been a big point of contention in this thread


They broke the community gate down did not have code


They broke down a gate that they did not have a code for. That doesn't exactly make the statement that they are there on peaceful terms.

Those that wish to defend the protestors fail to think how these situations might some day be reversed... be careful what you root for


Is breaking down the gate now considered both a legal and a peaceful action????

it has also been part of the story of the home owners, which casts doubt on their credibility


"....It was a huge and frightening crowd. They had broken the gate and were coming at us," Mark McCloskey told 5 On Your Side, explaining the videos that show him and his wife aiming a rifle and pistol respectively at the crowd.

But video from early in the incident shows a man holding open the left side of the gate while the right door is fully intact and upright.

"I didn’t see anything violent. I didn’t see anything wild from my perspective. I did see somebody open the door, and they walk into a gated community. I didn’t see anything broken or property being damaged," Maxi Glamour said....

https://www.ksdk.com/article/news/local/video-shows-gate-was-intact-when-cwe-couple-pointed-guns-at-protesters/63-14a1582a-9372-4494-b8ee-41d5d4d71b61

[Spurtacular]

i'll nevertheless accept that you misspoke and i wasn't promoting a "conspiracy" because the video evidence was already there which i had referred to the entire time :tu

I erred in not knowing the status of the gate. I did not misspeak.

[spurraider21]

I erred in not knowing the status of the gate. I did not misspeak.
you said i was promoting conspiracy when video evidence had been there all along with i had cited to