Yale professor says hydroxychloroquine could save 100,000 lives — but it's being stifled by a 'propaganda war'

[ducks]

https://www.theblaze.com/news/yale-professor-hydroxychloroquine-100-000-lives?fbclid=IwAR1yN6p3UEaJuxyw0sr6nvXXAuy_D5nhyR4 CgwtqhP3Lv0I1veoa6A3DbVM

[DarrinS]

https://www.newsweek.com/key-defeating-covid-19-already-exists-we-need-start-using-it-opinion-1519535

[JamStone]

News about the coronavirus in general has gotten mind-numbing.

You find one article about something, and there’s two scientific studies saying the exact opposite. And then there’s another news source that refutes both of those conclusions.

I don’t believe the virus is a hoax. I think it’s real and it’s a legitimate global health problem. But I also believe that there has been some deceit and manipulation of facts and stats by some in the media, the scientific community, and political circles with a biased leftist agenda. How much deceit and manipulation, I have no idea. There is information, misinformation, and disinformation in every article, every news report. There’s the truth somewhere hidden in the layers of fiction and warped opinions skewed as “facts” that both sides are shoveling on top of the covid-19 pile of news. And it’s getting pretty difficult to decipher what is what. It’s hard to really know what to believe.

The only thing I personally believe is true about it is that no one really knows the whole truth about the coronavirus yet.

[TheGreatYacht]

News about the coronavirus in general has gotten mind-numbing.

You find one article about something, and there’s two scientific studies saying the exact opposite. And then there’s another news source that refutes both of those conclusions.

I don’t believe the virus is a hoax. I think it’s real and it’s a legitimate global health problem. But I also believe that there has been some deceit and manipulation of facts and stats by some in the media, the scientific community, and political circles with a biased leftist agenda. How much deceit and manipulation, I have no idea. There is information, misinformation, and disinformation in every article, every news report. There’s the truth somewhere hidden in the layers of fiction and warped opinions skewed as “facts” that both sides are shoveling on top of the covid-19 pile of news. And it’s getting pretty difficult to decipher what is what. It’s hard to really know what to believe.

The only thing I personally believe is true about it is that no one really knows the whole truth about the coronavirus yet.

You're halfway there. You are way ahead of Chumpettes who think this hoax virus is dangerous and life threatening.

[DMC]

News about the coronavirus in general has gotten mind-numbing.

You find one article about something, and there’s two scientific studies saying the exact opposite. And then there’s another news source that refutes both of those conclusions.

I don’t believe the virus is a hoax. I think it’s real and it’s a legitimate global health problem. But I also believe that there has been some deceit and manipulation of facts and stats by some in the media, the scientific community, and political circles with a biased leftist agenda. How much deceit and manipulation, I have no idea. There is information, misinformation, and disinformation in every article, every news report. There’s the truth somewhere hidden in the layers of fiction and warped opinions skewed as “facts” that both sides are shoveling on top of the covid-19 pile of news. And it’s getting pretty difficult to decipher what is what. It’s hard to really know what to believe.

The only thing I personally believe is true about it is that no one really knows the whole truth about the coronavirus yet.

Virus Olympics has state level competitions as well.

[Pelicans78]

Steroids work better and they’re cheap as well.

[elbamba1]

The one person I know who went into a coma and was on a ventilator due to COVID was given hydroxychloroquine early on as part of her treatment. She has made a full recovery despite being over 70 and in poor health. I am not a doctor and have no clue what actually saved her. I am sure it was a variety of things. It is possible that hydroxychloroquine did nothing for her, but I know she took it.

[Reck]

The one person I know who went into a coma and was on a ventilator due to COVID was given hydroxychloroquine early on as part of her treatment. She has made a full recovery despite being over 70 and in poor health. I am not a doctor and have no clue what actually saved her. I am sure it was a variety of things. It is possible that hydroxychloroquine did nothing for her, but I know she took it.

The drug was taken off the table worldwide except for Brazil for a reason.

Remdesivir seems like the go to drug now.

[elbamba1]

The drug was taken off the table worldwide except for Brazil for a reason.

Remdesivir seems like the go to drug now.

That is correct. But the person I know was hospitalized in March right at the beginning when it first hit San Antonio.

[spurraider21]

The drug was taken off the table worldwide except for Brazil for a reason.

Remdesivir seems like the go to drug now.
Global anti trump conspiracy

[TSA]

The drug was taken off the table worldwide except for Brazil for a reason.

Remdesivir seems like the go to drug now.Wrong. Hydroxychloroquine was temporarily taken off the table because of a published study that was eventually retracted because the authors couldn’t vouch for the data. It was a huge set back on existing and future trials. Hydroxychloroquine is still being used worldwide.

Lancet, New England Journal retract Covid-19 studies, including one that raised safety concerns about malaria drugs

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/04/lancet-retracts-major-covid-19-paper-that-raised-safety-concerns-about-malaria-drugs/BBC

[TimDunkem]

Imagine still pushing this shit. :lol

It's okay, Cultists. The pandemic was still in it's early days when this was pushed. You can move on from this now. :lol

[spurraider21]

its equally as important for some people that we not only find a fix for coronavirus but also that the fix MUST be hqc. because trump being right is as important as anything

cult

[TimDunkem]

its equally as important for some people that we not only find a fix for coronavirus but also that the fix MUST be hqc. because trump being right is as important as anything

cult
That's all it can be at this point. The world moved on and found better treatments. Treatments Trump himself is citing, but he is still pushing HQC so they must too.

It's so sad. Literally no one will fault any Cultist for moving past this old story, but they just won't let it go. Getting that W over da' libs is more important than ANYTHING.

[Reck]

Wrong. Hydroxychloroquine was temporarily taken off the table because of a published study that was eventually retracted because the authors couldn’t vouch for the data. It was a huge set back on existing and future trials. Hydroxychloroquine is still being used worldwide.

Lancet, New England Journal retract Covid-19 studies, including one that raised safety concerns about malaria drugs

https://www.statnews.com/2020/06/04/lancet-retracts-major-covid-19-paper-that-raised-safety-concerns-about-malaria-drugs/BBC

Not wrong. At one point it was.

And the drug is still unproven to work effectively in most, if not all cases so whether or not some countries are still using it, it's not like it's actually saving lives.

Time to stop trying to make this one drug work so badly to make god Trump right for once in his life. Might as well be promoting injecting bleach into you.

[ducks]

The drug was taken off the table worldwide except for Brazil for a reason.

Remdesivir seems like the go to drug now.

Yeah politically
More deaths liberal thinking more votes for biden
It is sickening

[boutons_deux]

the French doctor's data and methods, like not exposing his entire cohort, etc, a small sample, etc

but there has been other studies, more rigorous, that showed HCQ ineffective, and even mortal for some patients.

[boutons_deux]

The one person I know who went into a coma and was on a ventilator due to COVID was given hydroxychloroquine early on as part of her treatment. She has made a full recovery despite being over 70 and in poor health. I am not a doctor and have no clue what actually saved her. I am sure it was a variety of things. It is possible that hydroxychloroquine did nothing for her, but I know she took it.

this is an anecdote, not a study.

and the HCQ mob says HCQ in combo with other drugs, not HCQ alone

good that she survived (lingering symptoms?),

but it says nothing ACTIONABLE about HCQ

[boutons_deux]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-africa-53184401/hydroxychloroquine-and-coronavirus-the-story-so-far

[TSA]

The drug was taken off the table worldwide except for Brazil for a reason.

Remdesivir seems like the go to drug now.



Not wrong. At one point it was.

And the drug is still unproven to work effectively in most, if not all cases so whether or not some countries are still using it, it's not like it's actually saving lives.

Time to stop trying to make this one drug work so badly to make god Trump right for once in his life. Might as well be promoting injecting bleach into you.

You said it was taken off for a reason, I just gave you the reason. It was taken off the table worldwide because of a study. That study was poor and later retracted by its authors.

[TSA]

its equally as important for some people that we not only find a fix for coronavirus but also that the fix MUST be hqc. because trump being right is as important as anything

cult

its equally as important for some people that we not only find a fix for coronavirus but also that the fix MUST NOT be hqc. because trump being wrong is as important as anything

TDS cult

I don’t care what ends up working against the virus, I’m rooting for all of them.

[Blake]

News about the coronavirus in general has gotten mind-numbing.

You find one article about something, and there’s two scientific studies saying the exact opposite. And then there’s another news source that refutes both of those conclusions.

I don’t believe the virus is a hoax. I think it’s real and it’s a legitimate global health problem. But I also believe that there has been some deceit and manipulation of facts and stats by some in the media, the scientific community, and political circles with a biased leftist agenda. How much deceit and manipulation, I have no idea. There is information, misinformation, and disinformation in every article, every news report. There’s the truth somewhere hidden in the layers of fiction and warped opinions skewed as “facts” that both sides are shoveling on top of the covid-19 pile of news. And it’s getting pretty difficult to decipher what is what. It’s hard to really know what to believe.

The only thing I personally believe is true about it is that no one really knows the whole truth about the coronavirus yet.

Lol "biased leftist agenda"

140k deaths and counting. VOTE FOR TRUMP!

[Blake]

You said it was taken off for a reason, I just gave you the reason. It was taken off the table worldwide because of a study. That study was poor and later retracted by its authors.

Did gummi tell you this?

[phxspurfan]

The drug was taken off the table worldwide except for Brazil for a reason.

Remdesivir seems like the go to drug now.

Pretty sure that stuff is in short supply though

[spurraider21]

its equally as important for some people that we not only find a fix for coronavirus but also that the fix MUST NOT be hqc. because trump being wrong is as important as anything

TDS cult

I don’t care what ends up working against the virus, I’m rooting for all of them.
no, i'm just not for the president/government pimping a miracle cure until its known to actually be effective thru clinical trials (and not just for a subset of patients) because it gives people the false sense of security that the pandemic is no longer serious because even if they get it there is an easy cure.

i dont care if its hqc or anything else. im not happy with shit being closed. i'm fortunate enough that my work hasn't been impacted yet, but thats not true for much of my family/friends. im not happy with people still dying daily. but that doesnt mean im going to sit and support completely irresponsible behavior/rhetoric and then try to justify it post-hoc like the uv light shit

[Reck]

TSA, Chrisbot, derp and millennial messiah
https://i.chzbgr.com/full/7042332416/hE25A919B/i-will-go-down-with-this-ship

[TSA]

Did gummi tell you this?

How long are you going to be butthurt for? :rollin

[Blake]

How long are you going to be butthurt for? :rollin

Lol gummi is your source for info though. It's hilarious.

[TSA]

Lol gummi is your source for info though. It's hilarious.

I use many sources for info. What’s hilarious?

[Blake]

I use many sources for info. What’s hilarious?

When you quote gummi. It's hilarious.

[boutons_deux]

Pretty sure that stuff is in short supply though

hopes for remdesivir have subsided

"But while remdesivir is pretty good -- better than many other antivirals, anyway -- at faking out the viral polymerase's companion proofreader protein, it's far from perfect, Shafer said.

Some intact viral-genome copies may still manage to get made, escape from the cell, and infect other cells -- mission accomplished.

Using remdesivir in combination with some still-sought, as-yet-undiscovered drug that could block the proofreader could turn out to be a more surefire strategy than remdesivir alone.

https://scopeblog.stanford.edu/2020/06/29/how-remdesivir-works-and-why-its-not-the-ultimate-coronavirus-killer/

================

In cell studies, seaweed extract outperforms remdesivir in blocking COVID-19 virus

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-07-cell-seaweed-outperforms-remdesivir-blocking.html

[TSA]

When you quote gummi. It's hilarious.

I’ve probably posted a tweet from gummi less than three times. What is hilarious about reposting a gummi tweet? Be specific.

[Blake]

I’ve probably posted a tweet from gummi less than three times. What is hilarious about reposting a gummi tweet? Be specific.

Using gummi as a source is hilarious because nobody knows who the fuck gummi is. It isn't hard to figure out why you got laughed at.

[DarrinS]

Like HCQ, Quercetin is a zinc ionophore, but it's an over the counter supplement.

[TSA]

Using gummi as a source is hilarious because nobody knows who the fuck gummi is. It isn't hard to figure out why you got laughed at.

If the information posted is accurate it doesn’t matter that you don’t know who the fuck gummi is. You started a brand new thread saying herd immunity might not happen because you read an article in Vox that quoted a single doctor sharing an anecdote from a single patient. That was hilarious. The fact that you’re still butthurt over it is even more hilarious. Every time you bring up gummi I know I’m still in your head. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol defensive gummi

[DarrinS]

:lol defensive gummi

I need me some Kyle Griffin Russiagate tweets, tbh. Those aged well.

[Spurtacular]

TSA, Chrisbot, derp and millennial messiah
https://i.chzbgr.com/full/7042332416/hE25A919B/i-will-go-down-with-this-ship

:lol You forget that they crashed the sham party in the lead-up to this.
:lol Good one, tranny.

[Reck]

I need me some Kyle Griffin Russiagate tweets, tbh. Those aged well.

Aged as well as the times he posted the actual news about Manafort, Flynn and Roger Stone being charged and found guilty of crimes......and then have the president and DOJ corrupt and set free each individuals.

Where did your snarky comments disappeared to when that happened?

[ChumpDumper]

I need me some Kyle Griffin Russiagate tweets, tbh. Those aged well.At least there was evidence of attempted collusion with Russians when Trump's son, son in law and campaign manager attempted to collude with Russians.

[DMC]

Aged as well as the times he posted the actual news about Manafort, Flynn and Roger Stone being charged and found guilty of crimes......and then have the president and DOJ corrupt and set free each individuals.

Where did your snarky comments disappeared to when that happened?

whataboutism

[Reck]

whataboutism

ST’s gold standard.

If it’s good for the goose..

[JamStone]

Lol "biased leftist agenda"

140k deaths and counting. VOTE FOR TRUMP!

Are “biased leftist agenda” the only three words you read? I was critical of both sides. I think it’s faulty logic to believe either side is 100% honest and genuine. And I think it’s pretentious and disingenuous to blindly support left or right 100% of the time. It’s pretty clear both sides have extremists, both sides twist the truth to fit their respective narratives. And my point was that the truth gets lost because the news gets loaded with lies from both sides.

To be critical of the left does not necessarily make a person a right supporter. I think it’s important to realize that both sides have gone overboard with propaganda both related to the pandemic and the upcoming election.

For the record, I voted Hillary in 2016. And I will most likely vote Biden in 2020. I’m not an independent. Not because I believe in Biden. I think he’s a senile, old bat. But I will likely vote for him specifically to vote against Trump and to get him out of office.

[Blake]

If the information posted is accurate it doesn’t matter that you don’t know who the fuck gummi is. You started a brand new thread saying herd immunity might not happen because you read an article in Vox that quoted a single doctor sharing an anecdote from a single patient. That was hilarious. The fact that you’re still butthurt over it is even more hilarious. Every time you bring up gummi I know I’m still in your head. :lol

So you think doctor anecdotes about his experience with covid patient(s) are hilarious.

Neat, I guess we have different senses of humor

[ducks]

At least there was evidence of attempted collusion with Russians when Trump's son, son in law and campaign manager attempted to collude with Russians.

Lol
More ties from left and rino Romney ties to Russia and Ukraine

[Blake]

whataboutism

You don't understand how whataboutism works

[Splits]

FDA NEWS RELEASE
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Revokes Emergency Use Authorization for Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine




For Immediate Release:June 15, 2020
Español (https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/actualizacion-sobre-el-coronavirus-covid-19-la-fda-revoca-la-autorizacion-de-uso-de-emergencia-para)
Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revoked the emergency use authorization (https://www.fda.gov/media/138945/download) (EUA) that allowed for chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be used to treat certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19 when a clinical trial was unavailable, or participation in a clinical trial was not feasible. The agency determined that the legal criteria for issuing an EUA are no longer met. Based on its ongoing analysis of the EUA and emerging scientific data, the FDA determined that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are unlikely to be effective in treating COVID-19 for the authorized uses in the EUA. Additionally, in light of ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and other potential serious side effects, the known and potential benefits of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine no longer outweigh the known and potential risks for the authorized use.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-revokes-emergency-use-authorization-chloroquine-and

[Blake]

Are “biased leftist agenda” the only three words you read? I was critical of both sides. I think it’s faulty logic to believe either side is 100% honest and genuine. And I think it’s pretentious and disingenuous to blindly support left or right 100% of the time. It’s pretty clear both sides have extremists, both sides twist the truth to fit their respective narratives. And my point was that the truth gets lost because the news gets loaded with lies from both sides.

To be critical of the left does not necessarily make a person a right supporter. I think it’s important to realize that both sides have gone overboard with propaganda both related to the pandemic and the upcoming election.

For the record, I voted Hillary in 2016. And I will most likely vote Biden in 2020. I’m not an independent. Not because I believe in Biden. I think he’s a senile, old bat. But I will likely vote for him specifically to vote against Trump and to get him out of office.

I read it again, I didn't see any "both sides" stuff in your post.

Either way, regarding "both sides going back and forth" is not necessarily as partisan as it is that this thing is still so new and new information keeps coming up.

Research has not been conclusive in so many aspects yet many extreme right politicians want to claim we're ready to move forward. It makes no sense. I don't know what the extreme left's motive would be, tbh so fill me in please. Thx

[Blake]

FDA NEWS RELEASE
Coronavirus (COVID-19) Update: FDA Revokes Emergency Use Authorization for Chloroquine and Hydroxychloroquine




For Immediate Release:June 15, 2020
Español (https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/actualizacion-sobre-el-coronavirus-covid-19-la-fda-revoca-la-autorizacion-de-uso-de-emergencia-para)
Today, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) revoked the emergency use authorization (https://www.fda.gov/media/138945/download) (EUA) that allowed for chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate donated to the Strategic National Stockpile to be used to treat certain hospitalized patients with COVID-19 when a clinical trial was unavailable, or participation in a clinical trial was not feasible. The agency determined that the legal criteria for issuing an EUA are no longer met. Based on its ongoing analysis of the EUA and emerging scientific data, the FDA determined that chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are unlikely to be effective in treating COVID-19 for the authorized uses in the EUA. Additionally, in light of ongoing serious cardiac adverse events and other potential serious side effects, the known and potential benefits of chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine no longer outweigh the known and potential risks for the authorized use.

https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-revokes-emergency-use-authorization-chloroquine-and



CONSPIRACY!

/gummi

[Blake]

News about the coronavirus in general has gotten mind-numbing.

You find one article about something, and there’s two scientific studies saying the exact opposite. And then there’s another news source that refutes both of those conclusions.

I don’t believe the virus is a hoax. I think it’s real and it’s a legitimate global health problem. But I also believe that there has been some deceit and manipulation of facts and stats by some in the media, the scientific community, and political circles with a biased leftist agenda. How much deceit and manipulation, I have no idea. There is information, misinformation, and disinformation in every article, every news report. There’s the truth somewhere hidden in the layers of fiction and warped opinions skewed as “facts” that both sides are shoveling on top of the covid-19 pile of news. And it’s getting pretty difficult to decipher what is what. It’s hard to really know what to believe.

The only thing I personally believe is true about it is that no one really knows the whole truth about the coronavirus yet.

Oh I see "both sides" now. It was hidden in the layers of that text wall as a hedge bet. :tu

[Blake]

News about the coronavirus in general has gotten mind-numbing.

You find one article about something, and there’s two scientific studies saying the exact opposite. And then there’s another news source that refutes both of those conclusions.

I don’t believe the virus is a hoax. I think it’s real and it’s a legitimate global health problem. But I also believe that there has been some deceit and manipulation of facts and stats by some in the media, the scientific community, and political circles with a biased leftist agenda. How much deceit and manipulation, I have no idea. There is information, misinformation, and disinformation in every article, every news report. There’s the truth somewhere hidden in the layers of fiction and warped opinions skewed as “facts” that both sides are shoveling on top of the covid-19 pile of news. And it’s getting pretty difficult to decipher what is what. It’s hard to really know what to believe.

The only thing I personally believe is true about it is that no one really knows the whole truth about the coronavirus yet.

Oh I see "both sides" now. It was hidden in the layers of that text wall as a hedge bet. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

Lol
More ties from left and rino Romney ties to Russia and UkrainePost them.

[ElNono]

News about the coronavirus in general has gotten mind-numbing.

You find one article about something, and there’s two scientific studies saying the exact opposite. And then there’s another news source that refutes both of those conclusions.

I don’t believe the virus is a hoax. I think it’s real and it’s a legitimate global health problem. But I also believe that there has been some deceit and manipulation of facts and stats by some in the media, the scientific community, and political circles with a biased leftist agenda. How much deceit and manipulation, I have no idea. There is information, misinformation, and disinformation in every article, every news report. There’s the truth somewhere hidden in the layers of fiction and warped opinions skewed as “facts” that both sides are shoveling on top of the covid-19 pile of news. And it’s getting pretty difficult to decipher what is what. It’s hard to really know what to believe.

The only thing I personally believe is true about it is that no one really knows the whole truth about the coronavirus yet.

I think it's all part of the chaos in the response to this. And opportunism thrives on chaos. There's been terrible leadership, at various levels, poorly coordinated response, from the federal government undermining states, to states being irresponsible.

The virus itself doesn't care about political affiliation, dogma, feelings or conspiracies. That's why guys like Abbot or DeathSantis had to back down, same with Trump and his rallies. Cuomo made terrible mistakes early on, and Newsom did later on when he tried to re-open quicker than it was advised.

The cost of these mistakes are high, they're measured in dead people. It's too late now, but the US should swallow their pride after this, and learn from other countries (ie: Germany), who didn't necessarily have experience with a virus like this, and yet had a much better coordinated response.

Also, politicizing this from the get go was a fatal mistake from POTUS. Eventually you reap what you sow.

[TSA]

So you think doctor anecdotes about his experience with covid patient(s) are hilarious.

Neat, I guess we have different senses of humor

No, I found it hilarious that with all of the already created long running coronavirus threads you thought an article from Vox about a single doctor and his single patient needed it’s own thread.

[TSA]

CONSPIRACY!

/gummi

STILL BUTTHURT!

/Blake

[ChumpDumper]

I hope hydroxychloroquine cures every disease known to man. It was stupid for known grifter Trump to pimp it like his steaks, vodka and fake university.

[Blake]

No, I found it hilarious that with all of the already created long running coronavirus threads you thought an article from Vox about a single doctor and his single patient needed it’s own thread.

Right, different senses of humor.

[Blake]

STILL BUTTHURT!

/Blake

Lol tsa

[DarrinS]

I hope hydroxychloroquine cures every disease known to man. It was stupid for known grifter Trump to pimp it like his steaks, vodka and fake university.

He also pumped redisheever, or however he pronounced it. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

He also pumped redisheever, or however he pronounced it. :lolHe stopped pimping it for exactly that reason.

[JamStone]

Research has not been conclusive in so many aspects yet many extreme right politicians want to claim we're ready to move forward. It makes no sense. I don't know what the extreme left's motive would be, tbh so fill me in please. Thx

To answer the question, the extreme left’s motive seems pretty clear to me. Their motive is to make sure everything bad gets blamed on Trump. The coronavirus has been great in that regard, because so much negative shit has come from it under his watch. You add the racial divide as a result of George Floyd and the subsequent protests, and double whammy. The longer shit stays bad with cases, with deaths, with the economy, with racial unrest, the better it looks for Trump getting kicked out of office. The extreme left is making sure things stay bad, and they don’t care if they have to lie or twist truths to ensure that happens. But the thing is they don’t have to. He’s fucking everything up all by himself, no help needed.

As I said, I voted against Trump in 2016. And I’m planning to vote against him again in 2020. So this isn’t about defending him. I think he’s done a terrible job at handling the coronavirus. And I think he’s been the most racially divisive president in 150 years, which is saying something considering he followed the first and only black president. I think he’s incompetent to lead a country and he has a bunch of incompetent and/or impotent people around him. I want Trump out of office. That doesn’t mean I can’t be critical of what some of the extreme left is doing in order to achieve that end.

You saw me be critical of the left and then automatically assumed I was a pro Trumper. Nope. Just not a blind liberal follower.

[Blake]

To answer the question, the extreme left’s motive seems pretty clear to me. Their motive is to make sure everything bad gets blamed on Trump. The coronavirus has been great in that regard, because so much negative shit has come from it under his watch. You add the racial divide as a result of George Floyd and the subsequent protests, and double whammy. The longer shit stays bad with cases, with deaths, with the economy, with racial unrest, the better it looks for Trump getting kicked out of office. The extreme left is making sure things stay bad, and they don’t care if they have to lie or twist truths to ensure that happens. But the thing is they don’t have to. He’s fucking everything up all by himself, no help needed.

As I said, I voted against Trump in 2016. And I’m planning to vote against him again in 2020. So this isn’t about defending him. I think he’s done a terrible job at handling the coronavirus. And I think he’s been the most racially divisive president in 150 years, which is saying something considering he followed the first and only black president. I think he’s incompetent to lead a country and he has a bunch of incompetent and/or impotent people around him. I want Trump out of office. That doesn’t mean I can’t be critical of what some of the extreme left is doing in order to achieve that end.

You saw me be critical of the left and then automatically assumed I was a pro Trumper. Nope. Just not a blind liberal follower.

Thing with text walls is that it makes it so easy to hedge.

You say the left's motive is to blame Trump and then you yourself proceed to bash him.

Whatever.

[Blake]

He stopped pimping it for exactly that reason.

Lol

[baseline bum]

To answer the question, the extreme left’s motive seems pretty clear to me. Their motive is to make sure everything bad gets blamed on Trump. The coronavirus has been great in that regard, because so much negative shit has come from it under his watch. You add the racial divide as a result of George Floyd and the subsequent protests, and double whammy. The longer shit stays bad with cases, with deaths, with the economy, with racial unrest, the better it looks for Trump getting kicked out of office. The extreme left is making sure things stay bad, and they don’t care if they have to lie or twist truths to ensure that happens. But the thing is they don’t have to. He’s fucking everything up all by himself, no help needed.

As I said, I voted against Trump in 2016. And I’m planning to vote against him again in 2020. So this isn’t about defending him. I think he’s done a terrible job at handling the coronavirus. And I think he’s been the most racially divisive president in 150 years, which is saying something considering he followed the first and only black president. I think he’s incompetent to lead a country and he has a bunch of incompetent and/or impotent people around him. I want Trump out of office. That doesn’t mean I can’t be critical of what some of the extreme left is doing in order to achieve that end.

You saw me be critical of the left and then automatically assumed I was a pro Trumper. Nope. Just not a blind liberal follower.

Why shouldn't Trump get blamed? He's the one who kept wishcasting this virus away instead of trying to prepare for it. He's the one who rushed re-opening before stomping the virus down to levels where maybe it could be reasonably controlled through testing and contact tracing like some of the world's other rich nations have done. He's the one who decided gyms should be on the phase 1 of reopening after a late lobbying push despite them being horrible for infections, with people in enclosed areas breathing hard and thus expelling lots of droplets. He made masks into a political issue and tried to poison 30% of the country against them by claiming people were wearing masks just to make him look bad. Not trying to excuse Cuomo's monumental fuck-up with putting COVID positive people back into the nursing homes and getting lots more killed nor Newsom's botched reopening that has made California into what will soon be the world's worst COVID hotspot, but this is Trump's government and he's the one responsible for leading a national response. We're the laughingstock of the world, the country the rest of the rich countries pity. As much as I hate George W Bush, he would have never botched the response the way Trump has. Trump has tried to make everything about himself. The ridiculous thing is with a half competent response he would have been a shoo-in for re-election. For the week he took the virus seriously in March his favorability was way up until he turned the coronavirus briefings into rambling campaign rallies.

[DarrinS]

Senile Joe gonna save us.

[DarrinS]

I'm already dusting off my record player.

[pgardn]

Senile Joe gonna save us.

so you think he will tell the American people the virus will just disappear or will he go the opposite and tell us we will all die?

anyone else 2020

[pgardn]

No one was going to save us.

but to have the leader of our country purposely mislead people, I’m sorry that’s just incomprehensible.

[ducks]

COVID-19's death toll shows us that in-home care of the elderly and infirm has serious advantages over nursing home models. "COVID-19 has killed nearly 150,000 Americans, and about half of them were residents of nursing homes

[ducks]

Base are you in nursing home ?
Work in one ?

[baseline bum]

Senile Joe gonna save us.

Never been a Biden fan, but god yes he sounds amazing compared to Trump. Kasich or even Pence would sound amazing instead of Trump. Even W Bush or Gore would be an enormous upgrade.

[DarrinS]

"You know the thing.."

[Reck]

"You know the thing.."

Yeah man, woman camera tv inspires so much more confidence.

[baseline bum]

"You know the thing.."

Remember shining UV light through the skin?

[ducks]

I find it extremely ironic that all of the people who said "Trump would destroy America" are the one's burning our cities to the ground.

[Reck]

I find it extremely ironic that all of the people who said "Trump would destroy America" are the one's burning our cities to the ground.

:lol copy/pasta from ducks.

There's no way you wrote that.

[JamStone]

Thing with text walls is that it makes it so easy to hedge.

You say the left's motive is to blame Trump and then you yourself proceed to bash him.

Whatever.

So use fewer words. Cool.

Trump bad. Me no like Trump. Me also no like lies, regardless of political affiliation.

Don’t have to like lies just because they bash Trump. He fuck things up all by his self.

[JamStone]

Thing with text walls is that it makes it so easy to hedge.

You say the left's motive is to blame Trump and then you yourself proceed to bash him.

Whatever.

So use fewer words. Cool.

Trump bad. Me no like Trump. Me also no like lies, regardless of political affiliation.

Don’t have to like lies just because they bash Trump. He fuck things up all by his self.

[baseline bum]

:lol copy/pasta from ducks.

There's no way you wrote that.

1287483312156614656

[JamStone]

Why shouldn't Trump get blamed? He's the one who kept wishcasting this virus away instead of trying to prepare for it. He's the one who rushed re-opening before stomping the virus down to levels where maybe it could be reasonably controlled through testing and contact tracing like some of the world's other rich nations have done. He's the one who decided gyms should be on the phase 1 of reopening after a late lobbying push despite them being horrible for infections, with people in enclosed areas breathing hard and thus expelling lots of droplets. He made masks into a political issue and tried to poison 30% of the country against them by claiming people were wearing masks just to make him look bad. Not trying to excuse Cuomo's monumental fuck-up with putting COVID positive people back into the nursing homes and getting lots more killed nor Newsom's botched reopening that has made California into what will soon be the world's worst COVID hotspot, but this is Trump's government and he's the one responsible for leading a national response. We're the laughingstock of the world, the country the rest of the rich countries pity. As much as I hate George W Bush, he would have never botched the response the way Trump has. Trump has tried to make everything about himself. The ridiculous thing is with a half competent response he would have been a shoo-in for re-election. For the week he took the virus seriously in March his favorability was way up until he turned the coronavirus briefings into rambling campaign rallies.

Trump should absolutely be blamed for all of the fuck-ups handling the pandemic. I didn’t say he shouldn’t. I said that it’s the motive of the extreme left to twist facts. And in reality, it’s unnecessary because as you just listed a bunch of reasons why, Trump doesn’t need any lies to be blamed for all of those fuck-ups.

I’m just saying just because you’re against trump or against the right, it doesn’t mean that you have to blindly agree with everything left. I think both sides of American politics have been terrible during this whole global health crisis.

[ChumpDumper]

Senile Joe gonna save us.Literally any semi-serious politician would handle the pandemic better than Trump has.

Why can't you just admit he sucks at this?

[ChumpDumper]

Never been a Biden fan, but god yes he sounds amazing compared to Trump. Kasich or even Pence would sound amazing instead of Trump. Even W Bush or Gore would be an enormous upgrade.Holy shit W was a pandemic hawk. I would've taken his easel away and made him a response czar in February if he passed Trump's cognition test.

[baseline bum]

Trump should absolutely be blamed for all of the fuck-ups handling the pandemic. I didn’t say he shouldn’t. I said that it’s the motive of the extreme left to twist facts. And in reality, it’s unnecessary because as you just listed a bunch of reasons why, Trump doesn’t need any lies to be blamed for all of those fuck-ups.

I’m just saying just because you’re against trump or against the right, it doesn’t mean that you have to blindly agree with everything left. I think both sides of American politics have been terrible during this whole global health crisis.

What is the media twisting about Trump with a left-bias with respect to the pandemic? The national response is Trump's responsibility. He is the GOP and the GOP controls 3 of the 4 houses of the federal government. The red-state governors basically fell in line with his no-preconditions re-opening plans. There is a rat at the top of the chain and I don't see where there has been a left-bias saying it stinks.

[DMC]

Aged as well as the times he posted the actual news about Manafort, Flynn and Roger Stone being charged and found guilty of crimes......and then have the president and DOJ corrupt and set free each individuals.

Where did your snarky comments disappeared to when that happened?


You don't understand how whataboutism works


Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument.


:wakeup

[Blake]

Senile Joe gonna save us.

Anything to justify your vote for Trump

[Blake]

:wakeup

Lol yeah you still don't get it

[DMC]

Anything to justify your vote for Trump

This from an "Anyone but Trump"er :lol

[DMC]

Lol yeah you still don't get it

Cute empty retort

[Blake]

So use fewer words. Cool.

Trump bad. Me no like Trump. Me also no like lies, regardless of political affiliation.

Don’t have to like lies just because they bash Trump. He fuck things up all by his self.

What lies?

[Blake]

This from an "Anyone but Trump"er :lol

whataboutism!

[JamStone]

What is the media twisting about Trump with a left-bias with respect to the pandemic?


What lies?

I must admit. I hate to do this because this comes off as me defending Trump. And I hate Trump. And I want him out of office.

Trump has been accused of calling the coronavirus a “hoax.” He did not. He used the word hoax. But he did not call covid-19 a hoax. He called the democratic criticism of his handling of the pandemic the hoax. For months, liberal media never makes the distinction and just continues to say he called the actual coronavirus a hoax.

Trump has also been accused of firing the White House pandemic team. It’s not true. They left the administration and were not replaced. They were not fired.

Democrats allege that Trump slashed the CDC budget. He offered budget cuts to the CDC. Those cuts never happened. And subsequent bills that have been passed under Trump actually increased their budget.

Biden accused Trump of rejecting coronavirus testing kits from the WHO. The WHO never offered to sell Trump any alleged tests.

And twisting facts also come in the form of statistical manipulation and lies of omission. There have been statistics like 100% positives testings in some centers or the conflation of less accurate positive antibody tests with the actual positive viral tests or, for example, the death by motorcycle accident documented as a covid death that skew the overall numbers. I’m not suggesting it makes a huge difference as I have no idea how much manipulation on positive tests and number of deaths have actually occurred. But failure of left media to acknowledge that the numbers may be at least a little off is disingenuous reporting. Further, with the liberal media heroizing Fauci as much as they have, they refuse to also talk about his inconsistencies early on in the pandemic with comments like the coronavirus was not a threat to the citizens of the United States and the general public should not wear a mask, meanwhile vilifying Trump for similar inconsistent comments.

I feel dirty because again I am anti-Trump. But some on the left act like the left tells the unbiased truth all of the time, they never twist facts, they don’t play dirty. We all know the nutjob conspiracy theory right tells lies and twist facts. Probably more than the left. But so does the left.


Do you honestly believe that democratic politicians are honest and righteous and the liberal media is authentically unbiased factual reporting? I consider myself just left of center. Not everyone on the left are lemmings.

[Blake]

^ you're mixing up what Democrats have been disingenuous about vs what the media actually reported in some of those cases.

The "hoax" thing happened because Trump is such a terrible communicator that it sounded to many like he meant the virus itself was a hoax. Outlets like NBC got it wrong but the AP actually got it correct.

And fwiw, Trump Jr flat out called the virus itself a hoax just a couple of weeks later.


I think politicians on both sides have always tended to stretch the truth to meet their agendas. I think there are media outlets out there that lean heavy left or heavy right which leads to suspect reporting, but I also think there are some outlets that honestly try to report the truth/facts.

[JamStone]

My problem isn’t so much that either side (and yes I lump the politicians and media together for both sides) is biased in quotes from politicians and news and information from left or right news sources. They always have been. They always will be. My problem more so specifically right now during this pandemic is that both sides have been more concerned with political agendas and trying to embarrass the other side and prove they’re wrong and lying that the dissemination of news and information about the coronavirus gets cluttered up with so much political bullshit, and it’s hard to filter it all out to get to the truth.

What is the real truth about anything and everything covid-19? No one fucking knows. It’s drowning in political sewage.

It’s a major reason why this country continues to be so divided and can’t get on the same page to battle the coronavirus. Put political pride aside, agree on a unified, cohesive national strategy to attack the coronavirus, and we’d be in exponentially better shape than what we are now.

And both the right and the left are to blame.

[Spurminator]

I don't place much distinction between Trump's "hoax" comments and the subsequent interpretation. What he was basically saying is that Democrats were overreacting to COVID as a strategic attack on his Presidency.

It's like saying "Seatbelts are unnecessary safety theater." You may not be specifically saying that people won't die if they get into a head-on collision without a seatbelt, but the overall effect is basically the same.

And given how many of Trump's cultists actually DO think COVID itself is a hoax, it's an all-the-more dangerous thing to poorly communicate.

[Blake]

My problem isn’t so much that either side (and yes I lump the politicians and media together for both sides) is biased in quotes from politicians and news and information from left or right news sources. They always have been. They always will be. My problem more so specifically right now during this pandemic is that both sides have been more concerned with political agendas and trying to embarrass the other side and prove they’re wrong and lying that the dissemination of news and information about the coronavirus gets cluttered up with so much political bullshit, and it’s hard to filter it all out to get to the truth.

What is the real truth about anything and everything covid-19? No one fucking knows. It’s drowning in political sewage.

It’s a major reason why this country continues to be so divided and can’t get on the same page to battle the coronavirus. Put political pride aside, agree on a unified, cohesive national strategy to attack the coronavirus, and we’d be in exponentially better shape than what we are now.

And both the right and the left are to blame.

K, looks like you're set to stick with sweeping generalizations. It takes a little effort to get the truth but it can be done.

[Spurtacular]

It takes a little effort to get the truth but it can be done.

:lol This cuck.

TheGreatYacht

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol This cuck.

TheGreatYacht

"The white liberal men that want open borders are cucks."

- Angelo John Gage

[Winehole23]

Large, randomized COVID-19 recovery study


We report the preliminary results for the comparison of hydroxychloroquine vs. usual care alone. The primary outcome was 28-day mortality. Results: 1561 patients randomly allocated to receive hydroxychloroquine were compared with 3155 patients concurrently allocated to usual care. Overall, 418 (26.8%) patients allocated hydroxychloroquine and 788 (25.0%) patients allocated usual care died within 28 days (rate ratio 1.09; 95% confidence interval [CI] 0.96 to 1.23; P=0.18). Consistent results were seen in all pre-specified subgroups of patients. Patients allocated to hydroxychloroquine were less likely to be discharged from hospital alive within 28 days (60.3% vs. 62.8%; rate ratio 0.92; 95% CI 0.85-0.99) and those not on invasive mechanical ventilation at baseline were more likely to reach the composite endpoint of invasive mechanical ventilation or death (29.8% vs. 26.5%; risk ratio 1.12; 95% CI 1.01-1.25). There was no excess of new major cardiac arrhythmia. Conclusions: In patients hospitalized with COVID-19, hydroxychloroquine was not associated with reductions in 28-day mortality but was associated with an increased length of hospital stay and increased risk of progressing to invasive mechanical ventilation or death.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.07.15.20151852v1

[Spurtacular]

"The white liberal men that want open borders are cucks."

- Angelo John Gage

Well, Blake just sat there and apologized to the dude fucking his wife for intruding on them in his own house.
He's that weak of a man. And then he comes on here and pretends to know how sh** works.

[boutons_deux]

Democrats were overreacting to COVID as a strategic attack on his Presidency.


that is still Limbaugh's LIE

[midnightpulp]

Final nail in the coffin.

1287916401705938945

FDA itself withdrew emergency use authorization.

[DMC]

Final nail in the coffin.

1287916401705938945

FDA itself withdrew emergency use authorization.

The FDA has no say in whether or not doctors can prescribe it to their patients since it's already on the market.

[DarrinS]

Final nail in the coffin.

1287916401705938945

FDA itself withdrew emergency use authorization.

No zinc?

[DarrinS]

And posting the "Final nail in the coffin" with a tweet from Ted Lieu is kind of sad.

[ducks]

They don’t want you to use HCQ - they need an excuse to jab the popul’n so Gat €s and Drug companies make $$$. And the ms media is part of the cabal.
The steroid Budesonide delivered by humidifier, remdesivir, supplementing with zinc & vit D3/k2-mk7 also work

[ducks]

Big pharma doesn't want people to use HCQ because then they could not sell their dirty, often health damaging, low efficacy, highly profitable vaccines. Why buy a vaccine for viruses when there is one cheaper solution to many viruses

[ducks]

Donald J. Trump Retweeted

Melissa Tate
@TheRightMelissa
·
3h
6000 doctors surveyed across the world all said #Hydroxychloroquine works in Covid patients. Multiple Studies in France found it effective. & yet here in America it is being suppressed to keep deaths high so the economy can be shut down ahead of the election. It’s sick!

[baseline bum]

No zinc?

come back zinc! come back!

[DarrinS]

come back zinc! come back!

I think the mechanism is understood. If you don't like HCQ, get some quercetin.

[midnightpulp]

And posting the "Final nail in the coffin" with a tweet from Ted Lieu is kind of sad.

Who cares about the tweeter. Yet another study showing this drug probably doesn't work. But who gives a shit about HCQ anymore? Dexamethasone and Remdesivir look way more promising.


In patients hospitalized with Covid-19, the use of dexamethasone resulted in lower 28-day mortality among those who were receiving either invasive mechanical ventilation or oxygen alone at randomization but not among those receiving no respiratory support. (Funded by the Medical Research Council and National Institute for Health Research and others; RECOVERY ClinicalTrials.gov number,

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2021436

Here's a potential real world correlation.

1285706868032188418

HCQ is at its lowest prescribed levels and the death rate (CFR) is lower than it has ever been.

[DarrinS]

I don't know why people don't do some basic research on simple, cheap things that could save their lives.

Why are dark-skinned people dying disproportionately? Er, duurrr, systematic racism?

Oh well.

[midnightpulp]

I don't know why people don't do some basic research on simple, cheap things that could save their lives.

Why are dark-skinned people dying disproportionately? Er, duurrr, systematic racism?

Oh well.

Like masks? Staying at home more? Lose some weight? HCQ hasn't been proven to save lives. If you want to take it as a precaution based on the very low probability it might have a prophylactic effect, fair enough. But too much attention has been paid to this drug.

[slick'81]

Poor ducks and hcq

[Winehole23]

I don't know why people don't do some basic research on simple, cheap things that could save their lives.Like what?


Why are dark-skinned people dying disproportionately? Er, duurrr, systematic racism?

Oh well.How would you explain it?

[ducks]

https://twitter.com/stella_immanuel/status/1287897564231143425?s=20

This black dr knows her stuff!

[DarrinS]

Like what?

How would you explain it?


Vitamin D deficiency

[DarrinS]

Vitamin D deficiency

As well as overweight, comorbidities, etc.

[slick'81]

Vitamin D deficiency


Dont forget obesity d

[midnightpulp]

Like what?

How would you explain it?

Can we consider wealth inequality a result of systemic racism?

Whether a result of systemic racism or not, wealth inequality explains the death disparity between most minorities and white people (who are on average wealthier and work more in white collar professions where they can work from home). Minorities tend to be your frontline workers and have living arrangements where they can't as easily socially distance, i.e. more multigenerational households in smaller dwellings.

[ducks]

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/americas-frontline-doctors-scotus-press-conference-transcript?fbclid=IwAR0QfWNG6UVPD4G-8NFnWT7ENCZZVHTzKh6GoVxFX84H2sWCzIQ1BsBZGZU

[Reck]

Blacks still triggering Darrin. lol

[ChumpDumper]

"At least I'm not the blacks."

[DarrinS]

https://twitter.com/stella_immanuel/status/1287897564231143425?s=20

This black dr knows her stuff!


Well, I watched it while it was available. She was saying HCQ + zinc + z-pak helps covid patients.

"This Tweet is no longer available.". Wtf?

[baseline bum]

Well, I watched it while it was available. She was saying HCQ + zinc + z-pak helps covid patients.

"This Tweet is no longer available.". Wtf?

Video reposted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_dTLeM1K1E

[ducks]

https://thespectator.info/2020/07/27/brave-frontline-covid-doctor-calls-out-fake-news-challenges-cnns-chris-cuomo-to-take-a-urine-test-to-prove-he-isnt-taking-hydroxychloroquine-video/?fbclid=IwAR0fnC-K8RIbvipbFGne9FNQGgQXRORI95OMLOjYky-v9PofIKtldcfjR1E

[ChumpDumper]

:lol she Godwinned COVID treatment.

[DarrinS]

Blacks still triggering Darrin. lol


"At least I'm not the blacks."



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv4iINxf4IM

[ducks]

Well, I watched it while it was available. She was saying HCQ + zinc + z-pak helps covid patients.

"This Tweet is no longer available.". Wtf?

Removed from Facebook people keep posting it

https://thespectator.info/2020/07/27/brave-frontline-covid-doctor-calls-out-fake-news-challenges-cnns-chris-cuomo-to-take-a-urine-test-to-prove-he-isnt-taking-hydroxychloroquine-video/?fbclid=IwAR0fnC-K8RIbvipbFGne9FNQGgQXRORI95OMLOjYky-v9PofIKtldcfjR1E

[ChumpDumper]

Yes, Darrin. You're better than the blacks who don't take what you say you take.

Feel good about yourself.

[DarrinS]

Video reposted

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_dTLeM1K1E


Meh, just be ignorant and go about your business.

[Blake]

Meh, just be ignorant and go about your business.

Yet you keep talking about the blacks

[DarrinS]

Yes, Darrin. You're better than the blacks who don't take what you say you take.

Feel good about yourself.

In the US, 82% of blacks are vitamin D deficient, and 70% of Hispanics are vitamin D deficient.

Try harder

[ChumpDumper]

Meh, just be ignorant and go about your business.Reading the transcript.

We have a 100% cure but the disease kills people anyway so no lockdowns South Dakota!

:tu

[Winehole23]

THEY SHOULD DO SOME RESEARCH AND START BUYING SOME CHEAP SHIT AT GNC, THAT'LL DO THE TRICK.

[ChumpDumper]

In the US, 82% of blacks are vitamin D deficient, and 70% of Hispanics are vitamin D deficient.

Try harderSo what?

Hydroxychloroquine is a 100% cure so nothing else matters.

Do you believe the doctor or not?

[ducks]

A COVID Doctor is challenging CNN’s ChrisCuomo and Dr. Fauci to take a urine test to prove they aren’t taking Hydroxychloroquine

[DarrinS]

Yet you keep talking about the blacks

I mentioned dark-skinned, and both you and chumpcuckner went full retard. :lol

[ducks]

So what?

Hydroxychloroquine is a 100% cure so nothing else matters.

Do you believe the doctor or not?

Would you not take it if you got it?

[Blake]

In the US, 82% of blacks are vitamin D deficient, and 70% of Hispanics are vitamin D deficient.

Try harder

You keep talking about dark skinned instead of just going about your business

[ChumpDumper]

Would you not take it if you got it?Probably not. Looks like there are much more effective drugs out there.

[ChumpDumper]

You keep talking about dark skinned instead of just going about your businessDarrin's prescription for COVID prevention is condescending smugness.

[DarrinS]

THEY SHOULD DO SOME RESEARCH AND START BUYING SOME CHEAP SHIT AT GNC, THAT'LL DO THE TRICK.

psst (whisper) -- we know what stops RNA replication. We also understand certain vitamins that help modulate the immune system. Good night.

[ChumpDumper]

I mentioned dark-skinned, and both you and chumpcuckner went full retard. :lolYou sure shut the fuck up about the 100% cure hydroxychloroquine.

Do you believe the dark skinned doctor or not?

[DarrinS]

You sure shut the fuck up about the 100% cure hydroxychloroquine.

Do you believe the dark skinned doctor or not?


Point to my post where I said it was a cure. Good luck.

[Winehole23]

psst (whisper) -- we know what stops RNA replication. We also understand certain vitamins that help modulate the immune system. Good night.Sounds like maybe you know a little more than I do, maybe you could unpack and support your own post.

Maybe there's something you thought of that has eluded all researchers up to now. Seems too important not to share.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, I watched it while it was available. She was saying HCQ + zinc + z-pak helps covid patients.

"This Tweet is no longer available.". Wtf?She says it's a 100% cure and the doctors who don't use it are Nazis.

Agree/disgree?

[ducks]

350 less dead bad for biden thanks to doctor !

[ducks]

You take one every 2 weeks you do not get the virus !

[slick'81]

You take one every 2 weeks you do not get the virus !


Great to know D!

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdc7T2UTHBI

[DarrinS]

She says it's a 100% cure and the doctors who don't use it are Nazis.

Agree/disgree?

Disagree

[Blake]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdc7T2UTHBI

Didn't watch. What did he say about hydroxychloroquine

[ChumpDumper]

I bet Trump can pronounce "Vitamin D."

[DarrinS]

Didn't watch. What did he say about hydroxychloroquine

Nothing. You should watch it tho.

[Blake]

Nothing. You should watch it tho.

I'm not dark skinned tho

[DarrinS]

I'm not dark skinned tho

Don't watch it then. Stay under your bed and stay safe. Duck and cover.

[ChumpDumper]

Don't watch it then. Stay under your bed and stay safe. Duck and cover.THAT SHOWED HIM.

[Blake]

Don't watch it then. Stay under your bed and stay safe. Duck and cover.

Or just be white like Darrin

[Winehole23]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdc7T2UTHBIThanks for sharing your source. Hopefully some effective therapies will be discovered soon :tu

[DarrinS]

Or just be white like Darrin

If you truly care about POC, share that video. Snark ignored

[DarrinS]

THAT SHOWED HIM.

Ok then

[DarrinS]

THAT SHOWED HIM.

Ok then

[Blake]

If you truly care about POC, share that video. Snark ignored

If you truly cared you'd post text. But you're lazy

[ChumpDumper]

Apparently minority vitamin deficiency is solely due to cultural inferiority or something.

[ElNono]

Vitamin D deficiency


As well as overweight, comorbidities, etc.

This is ridiculous though. Neither is a cure or a solution to the problem. Sure, they're all contributors to general good health, but neither is really going to prevent you from getting covid or save you if your system reacts badly.

I mean, I'm not against people making sure they're not Vitamin D deficient or they change their eating habits for the better, but it's disingenuous to present this as some sort of solution to covid.

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv4iINxf4IM

This is great. Just don't expect it to do much if you get the boogievirus.

[ElNono]

THEY SHOULD DO SOME RESEARCH AND START BUYING SOME CHEAP SHIT AT GNC, THAT'LL DO THE TRICK.

Exactly... wtf? LETS START INJECTING VITAMIN D ON OLD PEOPLE!

[ElNono]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mdc7T2UTHBI

11:05 on the video:
"Although the efficacy of vitamin D is still unclear as the results of the ongoing clinical trials are still pending..."

Here's a trial:
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT04344041

Vitamin D supplementation is mentioned as a potentially interesting treatment for SARS-Cov-2 infection but on a scientific basis with a low level of evidence until now.

[ElNono]

I mean, hey, I'd love if something as simple as Vitamin D will save everybody.

It's the whole recommending stuff that gives a false sense of security that annoys me.

[TheGreatYacht]

Didn't watch. What did he say about hydroxychloroquine

Spurtacular, Blake would clutch his pearls if he were to watch the banned Breitbart video :lol

Too scared to watch YouTube videos that might burst his CNN bubble :lol

[Pelicans78]

HCq just doesn’t work and it’s not being used now.

Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and Zinc are being used in conjunction with other treatments.

[Blake]

Spurtacular, Blake would clutch his pearls if he were to watch the banned Breitbart video :lol

Too scared to watch YouTube videos that might burst his CNN bubble :lol

Lol watching banned videos

[koriwhat]

This is ridiculous though. Neither is a cure or a solution to the problem. Sure, they're all contributors to general good health, but neither is really going to prevent you from getting covid or save you if your system reacts badly.

I mean, I'm not against people making sure they're not Vitamin D deficient or they change their eating habits for the better, but it's disingenuous to present this as some sort of solution to covid.

same could be said of a programmer giving his rebuttal and medical advice when he has no qualifications to do so.

[koriwhat]

HCq just doesn’t work and it’s not being used now.

Vitamin C, Vitamin D, and Zinc are being used in conjunction with other treatments.

i'd love to see the list of patients you're overseeing... lmao

[koriwhat]

If you truly care about POC, share that video. Snark ignored

he's bitter because POC slayed his beast of an ex.

[ChumpDumper]

:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

The right's latest hero!

In sermons posted on YouTube and articles on her website, Immanuel claims that medical issues like endometriosis, cysts, infertility, and impotence are caused by sex with “spirit husbands” and “spirit wives”—a phenomenon Immanuel describes essentially as witches and demons having sex with people in a dreamworld.

“They are responsible for serious gynecological problems,” Immanuel said. “We call them all kinds of names—endometriosis, we call them molar pregnancies, we call them fibroids, we call them cysts, but most of them are evil deposits from the spirit husband,” Immanuel said of the medical issues in a 2013 sermon. “They are responsible for miscarriages, impotence—men that can’t get it up.”

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In her sermon, Immanuel offers a sort of demonology of “nephilim,” the biblical characters she claims exist as demonic spirits and lust after dream sex with humans, causing all matter of real health problems and financial ruin. Immanuel claims real-life ailments such as fibroid tumors and cysts stem from the demonic sperm after demon dream sex, an activity she claims affects “many women.”

“They turn into a woman and then they sleep with the man and collect his sperm,” Immanuel said in her sermon. “Then they turn into the man and they sleep with a man and deposit the sperm and reproduce more of themselves.”

According to Immanuel, people can tell if they have taken a demonic spirit husband or spirit wife if they have a sex dream about someone they know or a celebrity, wake up aroused, stop getting along with their real-world spouse, lose money, or generally experience any hardship.

Alternately, they could just be having dream-sex with a human witch instead of a demon, she posits.

“There are those that are called astral sex,” Immanuel said in the sermon. “That means this person is not really a demon being or a nephilim. It’s just a human being that’s a witch, and they astral project and sleep with people.”

Immanuel’s bizarre medical ideas don’t stop with demon sex in dreams. In a 2015 sermon that laid out a supposed Illuminati plan hatched by “a witch” to destroy the world using abortion, gay marriage, and children’s toys, among other things, Immanuel claimed that DNA from space aliens is currently being used in medicine.

“They’re using all kinds of DNA, even alien DNA, to treat people,” Immanuel said.

Immanuel’s website offers a prayer to remove a generational curse originally received from an ancestor but transmitted, in Immanuel’s telling, through placenta. Immanuel claimed in another 2015 sermon posted that scientists had plans to install microchips in people, and develop a “vaccine” to make it impossible to become religious.

“They found the gene in somebody’s mind that makes you religious, so they can vaccinate against it,” Immanuel said.

Immanuel elaborated on her fascination with witchcraft in her 2015 Illuminati sermon, claiming that witches were intent on seizing control of children.

In her 2015 sermon on the Illuminati’s supposed agenda to bring down the United States, Immanuel argues that a wide variety of toys, books, and TV shows, from Pokémon—which she declares “Eastern demons”—to Harry Potter and the Disney Channel shows Wizards of Waverly Place and That’s So Raven were all part of a scheme to introduce children to spirits and witches. Immanuel warned that the Disney Channel show Hannah Montana was a gateway to evil, because its character had an “alter ego.” She has claimed that schools teach children to meditate so they can “meet with demons.”

In the sermon, Immanuel preserved special vitriol for the Magic 8-Ball, a toy that can be shaken up to “reveal” any answer. Immanuel claims the otherwise innocuous Magic 8-Ball was in fact a scheme to get children used to witchcraft.

“The 8-Ball was a psychic,” she said.

Immanuel’s oddball claims about the world extend to politics. She didn’t bring up this allegation publicly in Washington, but she has claimed that the American government is run in part by non-human reptilians.

“There are people that are ruling this nation that are not even human,” Immanuel said in her 2015 Illuminati sermon, before launching into a conversation she had with a “reptilian spirit” she described as “half-human, half-ET.”

Immanuel has also used her pulpit to preach hatred of LGBT people. Shortly before the Supreme Court legalized gay marriage, Immanuel warned her flock that gay marriage meant that “very soon people are going to be seeking to marry children” and accused gay Americans of practicing “homosexual terrorism.” In the same sermon, she praised a father’s decision to not love his transgender son after a gender transition.

“You know the crazy part?” Immanuel said. “The little girl demands he must love her anyway. Really? You will not get it from me, I’d be like ‘Little girl, when you come back to be a little girl again, but you talk—for now, I’m gone.’”

Unusually for a pediatrician, Immanuel has praised corporal punishment for children. The American Academy of Pediatrics opposes corporal punishment, and claims that the “vast majority” of pediatricians do not recommend it.

“Children need to be whipped,” she declared in a 2015 sermon, before adding that she didn’t think children should be “abused.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine?fbclid=IwAR0qtp5ehf30k4sMViolih ENzTuDFmYeW8MQnFY_AmD7QMXT1XydDqvBAAA

[koriwhat]

Lol watching banned videos

lol kowtowing to bigTech just like you did to bigDick.

[ElNono]

same could be said of a programmer giving his rebuttal and medical advice when he has no qualifications to do so.

What medical advice I provided?

[koriwhat]

What medical advice I provided?

you say it doesn't work... 'nuff said MD

[Blake]

lol kowtowing to bigTech just like you did to bigDick.

KW thinking of big dick.

[koriwhat]

KW thinking of big dick.

the odd world you live in where you think you're above your cuckdom. you're the bottom rung bitch boy.

[hater]

We all know what happens when demon sperm enters the human egg and produces an offspring.

His name is Dick Cheney

[Blake]

the odd world you live in where you think you're above your cuckdom. you're the bottom rung bitch boy.

But you think of big dicks tho.

[ElNono]

you say it doesn't work... 'nuff said MD

That's not medical advice. I actually plainly stated it's well known to work for general health, just there's no evidence it's a game changer for covid yet (and linked to a relevant study).

Medical advice would be me telling people to inject clorox.

[koriwhat]

But you think of big dicks tho.

nah i just think little of you blaKKKe and rightfully so you cucktard.

[TheGreatYacht]

That's not medical advice. I actually plainly stated it's well known to work for general health, just there's no evidence it's a game changer for covid yet (and linked to a relevant study).

Medical advice would be me telling people to inject clorox.

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/

[clambake]

Message from the people’s temple is start taking this drug

Don’t be shy, more is better!

[Blake]

nah.

Yah. It's in quotes.

[Blake]

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/

Lol Breitbart

BUT THEY'RE WEARING LAB COATS

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/All these people say the virus is real and are shitting directly into your mouth.

[Pelicans78]

i'd love to see the list of patients you're overseeing... lmao

I like to see your theories besides Trump’s talking points. You’re better off listening to what Trump’s porn stars say on how to treat it.

[Pelicans78]

i'd love to see the list of patients you're overseeing... lmao

Calf tats

[tholdren]

All these people say the virus is real and are shitting directly into your mouth.

So why are some doctors saying its a huge deal and others are not? Is that science or politics?

[spurraider21]

Calf tats
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/InfantileCarefreeAmericangoldfinch-size_restricted.gif

[ChumpDumper]

So why are some doctors saying its a huge deal and others are not? Is that science or politics?The ones saying it's a cure look like they are ignoring science.

Do you think it's a cure?

Yes or no.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol
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[TheGreatYacht]

Lol Breitbart

BUT THEY'RE WEARING LAB COATS


All these people say the virus is real and are shitting directly into your mouth.


I think it's about keeping the country divided. Establishment want Chumpettes to be sleeping sheep while right-wing conservatives be half woke. Divide and conquer. I have my reservations about that Breitbart video.

Quick thoughts about the Breitbart video. I love that those doctors are speaking out against the scamdemic but viruses are a HOAX. Viruses are not what we have been told they are. Joe Imbriano of Fullerton Informer explains that pretty good. HIV/AIDS is hoax by Anthony Fauci. Covid is a hoax. These doctors are propping up a fake virus that is as deadly as the common cold or flu. In fact, I have thought this whole time that Coronavirus is nothing but the flu or common cold.

Nonetheless, if Chumpettes were to watch and actually believe what those doctors say, they would be halfway there like most conservatives are. I take whatever indoctrinated doctors say with a grain of salt. I think the whole health and pharmaceutical industry is corrupt. That's why there's been holistic doctors assasinated (labeled as suicide) cuz they are a threat to the big pharma and medical industry.

https://i.ibb.co/drQsVLm/snakes-sticks-5-1.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/Gk9y0zK/received-289360252223433.jpg

$$$$$$$$$$


I've already addressed that :tu

[Blake]

:lol
1288230490428682241

Lol

[Blake]

I've already addressed that :tu

:lmao

[midnightpulp]

:lol
1288230490428682241

He's having a massively bad month. The Chris Wallace interview. Digging up literal witch doctors to shill HCQ. Melting down on twitter about people being mean. Don Jr. getting suspended.

You hate to see it. You really do.

[ChumpDumper]

He's having a massively bad month. The Chris Wallace interview. Digging up literal witch doctors to shill HCQ. Melting down on twitter about people being mean. Don Jr. getting suspended.

You hate to see it. You really do.Wishing a teen sex trafficker and abuser well....

[baseline bum]

He's having a massively bad month. The Chris Wallace interview. Digging up literal witch doctors to shill HCQ. Melting down on twitter about people being mean. Don Jr. getting suspended.

You hate to see it. You really do.

He's having a massively bad month? No, we're having a massively bad month. His fuck ups are no consequence to him but they're crushing all of us.

[midnightpulp]

He's having a massively bad month? No, we're having a massively bad month. His fuck ups are no consequence to him but they're crushing all of us.

Let's just hope we get a fair election. I fear what might happen if he gets reelected. Cities will probably burn.

[baseline bum]

Let's just hope we get a fair election. I fear what might happen if he gets reelected. Cities will probably burn.

They should burn if he gets re-elected.

[Will Hunting]

He's having a massively bad month. The Chris Wallace interview. Digging up literal witch doctors to shill HCQ. Melting down on twitter about people being mean. Don Jr. getting suspended.

You hate to see it. You really do.
Getting Dave Portnoy to give him a fluff interview after the Chris Wallace interview went horribly was painful to watch too. I used to love all the Barstool Sports content but lost all respect for Portnoy after that interview.

[midnightpulp]

They should burn if he gets re-elected.

I hope not. I get the want for catharsis, but that will just give the fucker an excuse to implement martial law. And I can't support someone's small ice cream shop or hobby shop going up in flames. I think the intelligent response would be a mass boycott of all corporate goods and services. Stock up on food and supplies, save money (if that's possible), and just crash the fuckin' markets. But that would require a level of coordination and resolve not enough Americans have. Amazon and cheap crap calls to us like sirens.

[DarrinS]

I watched some of the YouTube video before it was taken down. One of the presenters made a fairly compelling case about very low case counts and death rates in sub-Saharan Africa. Some of the lowest numbers in the world. Why do you think that is the case? In that part.of the world, it is very common for people to be on anti-malaria medications.

[ChumpDumper]

I watched some of the YouTube video before it was taken down. One of the presenters made a fairly compelling case about very low case counts and death rates in sub-Saharan Africa. Some of the lowest numbers in the world. Why do you think that is the case? In that part.of the world, it is very common for people to be on anti-malaria medications.My guess is reporting is pretty shitty in those countries.

[spurraider21]

I watched some of the YouTube video before it was taken down. One of the presenters made a fairly compelling case about very low case counts and death rates in sub-Saharan Africa. Some of the lowest numbers in the world. Why do you think that is the case? In that part.of the world, it is very common for people to be on anti-malaria medications.
its almost like we should have clinical trials to more accurately assess how strong that correlation factor is

[DarrinS]

its almost like we should have clinical trials to more accurately assess how strong that correlation factor is

Ideally

[Winehole23]

Let's just hope we get a fair election. I fear what might happen if he gets reelected. Cities will probably burn.Barr declined to answer today when asked if POTUS has the power to move the date of the election.

(It's not even a close call imo. Per Article II, Clause 4 of the US Constitution, the Congress schedules federal elections. Even if Trump prevailed upon Congress to change the date, his term office would still expire in January.)

[clambake]

Ideally

Take it, Darrin

More is better.

[TheGreatYacht]

Trumps "Doctor" Believes In Using DEMON SPERM!

https://youtu.be/7EHJ7QcuIxc

ducks koriwhat Nathan89 Chris CosmicCowboy DMC DarrinS Millennial_Messiah FrostKing SnakeBoy thispego TSA phxspurfan Spurtacular Thread

Spurtacular, this man is speaking TRUTH. A lot of videos that I try to share from this dude get taken down. Once again, I called it :tu

[Winehole23]

Ideally:lmao

[Spurminator]

They should burn if he gets re-elected.

Would be better to burn rural America, tbh

[midnightpulp]

I watched some of the YouTube video before it was taken down. One of the presenters made a fairly compelling case about very low case counts and death rates in sub-Saharan Africa. Some of the lowest numbers in the world. Why do you think that is the case? In that part.of the world, it is very common for people to be on anti-malaria medications.

You know what is actually proven to work against dying from Covid? Being young and not fat:

https://i.imgur.com/l9oMBBY.png
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D15B/production/_103959535_chart-adultobesity-nc.png

[DarrinS]

Would be better to burn rural America, tbh

Wow. Good luck with that.

[DarrinS]

You know what is actually proven to work against dying from Covid? Being young and not fat:

https://i.imgur.com/l9oMBBY.png
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/D15B/production/_103959535_chart-adultobesity-nc.png



Could be an important factor, for sure. :tu

[spurraider21]

Wow. Good luck with that.
wouldn't help siberia's temperatures tbh

[Spurtacular]

Trumps "Doctor" Believes In Using DEMON SPERM!

https://youtu.be/7EHJ7QcuIxc

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Spurtacular, this man is speaking TRUTH. A lot of videos that I try to share from this dude get taken down. Once again, I called it :tu

Yea, black African doctor seemed a little scammy to me, tbh.

[DarrinS]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAMFNQoNokE

[Spurminator]

Wow. Good luck with that.

Don't soil your panties, princess, I'm not advocating for it. I have family in rural West Texas.

Just saying for people who mistakenly believe that violence is warranted or at all productive, attacking cities is sort of akin to bombing Philadelphia after 9/11.

(Exception would be if they went after Wall Street. Can't say I'd shed a tear over that.)

[DarrinS]

Don't soil your panties, princess, I'm not advocating for it. I have family in rural West Texas.

Just saying for people who mistakenly believe that violence is warranted or at all productive, attacking cities is sort of akin to bombing Philadelphia after 9/11.

(Exception would be if they went after Wall Street. Can't say I'd shed a tear over that.)




You think your 401k just magically increases?

[weebo]

Reality is just so unfair to Trump. :cry

[Spurminator]

[/B][/I]


You think your 401k just magically increases?


401K's are a hostage situation. You play because you have to, because otherwise you become victim to the inflation and wealth gaps that Wall Street helps to create. And you just accept that every 8-10 years, your 401K is going to take a nosedive so robotraders and colluders get even richer while doing absolutely nothing positive for society or the overall economy. Fuck Wall Street.

My 401K is fine, but I'd rather they didn't exist.

[ElNono]

https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2020/07/27/facebook-censors-viral-video-of-doctors-capitol-hill-coronavirus-press-conference/

Farewell fake news...

"We've removed this video for sharing false information about cures and treatments for COVID-19," a Facebook spokesperson said.

"We're taking action in line with our Covid misinfo policy," a Twitter spokesperson said.

Immanuel also responded, tweeting that Facebook's computers would "start crashing" if it didn't restore video clips of her speaking.

"Hello Facebook put back my profile page and videos up or your computers with start crashing till you do," she tweeted. "You are not bigger that God. I promise you. If my page is not back up face book will be down in Jesus name."

:lmao

[Winehole23]

I wonder how much money Trump has invested in various the firms that make hydroxychloroquine. During the past couple of days it feels like there has been a coordinated effort at the White House to give HCQ a big push despite the growing consensus that it's useless for COVID-19.


The loan from the U.S. International Development Finance Corporation is the first of its kind under the Defense Production Act, officials said. Kodak is gearing up to produce ingredients for drugs including the antimalarial drug hydroxychloroquine, which President Donald Trump has supported in treatment for COVID-19, according to the Journal.”https://www.wsj.com/articles/kodak-lands-765-million-u-s-loan-in-start-of-medical-supply-chain-fix-11595930400

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/116588800_2951024811675774_763097096957280966_n.jp g?_nc_cat=111&_nc_sid=110474&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=_VIG0Erw2qoAX8Q2eyp&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-2.xx&tp=14&oh=130bd5c41de2eb868d18b85b66209e7b&oe=5F45763E

[ElNono]

I wonder how much money Trump has invested in various the firms that make hydroxychloroquine. During the past couple of days it feels like there has been a coordinated effort at the White House to give HCQ a big push despite the growing consensus that it's useless for COVID-19.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/kodak-lands-765-million-u-s-loan-in-start-of-medical-supply-chain-fix-11595930400

I'm guessing there's only 3 months to the election and he would love to change the perception that he hit and missed on that one.

[Winehole23]

I'm guessing there's only 3 months to the election and he would love to change the perception that he hit and missed on that one.That makes sense, but it's hard to ignore the ongoing grift too.

When do you think Trump will announce the vaccine? Too close to the election would feel like a stunt, too soon and he'd be expected to actually deliver it to the people. Thinking Mid-October.

[ElNono]

That makes sense, but it's hard to ignore the ongoing grift too.

When do you think Trump will announce the vaccine? Too close to the election would feel like a stunt, too soon and he'd be expected to actually deliver it to the people. Thinking Mid-October.

As you're well aware by now, Trump is largely unconcerned with grifting. This is a guy that readily admits he could kill somebody and get away with it. IOW, he thinks his fans are that stupid, and so far he has been correct.

On the vaccine, I'm sure he will at some point. The problem is that he's been swinging and missing so much on covid, he lacks credibility on the subject right now. And he's going to have to work on that. Is he still doing the pressers he said he was going to restart last week or so?

There's one thing that has become clear, IMO, he can't change the narrative to something he feels more comfortable about, because covid has been relentless and unapologetic, and nothing catches more attention than dead americans.

And so I think he's realized he's just going to have go to in there and change the perception that he's a loser on covid. There's 3 more months to go, and there's going to be debates (I think?) and Joe Biden is on the other side, so he still has a chance to do that.

[clambake]

[/B][/I]


You think your 401k just magically increases?
Lol you’ve mentioned this shit over and over. Beholden to just this.

[Winehole23]

As you're well aware by now, Trump is largely unconcerned with grifting. This is a guy that readily admits he could kill somebody and get away with it. IOW, he thinks his fans are that stupid, and so far he has been correct.

On the vaccine, I'm sure he will at some point. The problem is that he's been swinging and missing so much on covid, he lacks credibility on the subject right now. And he's going to have to work on that. Is he still doing the pressers he said he was going to restart last week or so?

There's one thing that has become clear, IMO, he can't change the narrative to something he feels more comfortable about, because covid has been relentless and unapologetic, and nothing catches more attention than dead americans.

And so I think he's realized he's just going to have go to in there and change the perception that he's a loser on covid. There's 3 more months to go, and there's going to be debates (I think?) and Joe Biden is on the other side, so he still has a chance to do that.His opponent being Joe Biden is the best thing Trump has going for him. Biden can't hide under a hatch forever.

[ElNono]

His opponent being Joe Biden is the best thing Trump has going for him. Biden can't hide under a hatch forever.

I largely agree with you, but boy, has this been an odd year. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he just lets Trump be Trump until November. I mean, it's not like it's hurting him or anything.

[Winehole23]

I largely agree with you, but boy, has this been an odd year. Wouldn't be surprised at all if he just lets Trump be Trump until November. I mean, it's not like it's hurting him or anything.There's no rule that there have to be any Presidential debates. I agree with you that Biden might have more to lose than to gain from debating Trump.

[midnightpulp]

There's no rule that there have to be any Presidential debates. I agree with you that Biden might have more to lose than to gain from debating Trump.

And debates are so fuckin' useless, too, since the general public doesn't know how to spot logical fallacies and rhetorical tricks. The general public will often crown the winner of a debate based on who was more articulate and "lively," not who made better points. Trump will "win," because of that. He'll lie, do his cult leader "charisma thing," and articulate better than Biden (even though it will be aimless rambling about non-sequitur shit, but Trump doesn't really stumble over words).

Hope Biden is prepared to counter Trump's boasts.

- "The economy was the best ever under me!"

- "No it wasn't, Don. And the economy and unemployment was on a steep downward slope during Barry and I's last term. You simply inherited a trend."

- "I banned travel from China in the run up to Covid. I saved thousands of lives."

- "The virus was already seeded by that time, Don. And still, you were talking about the stock market looking healthy while claiming Covid was supposedly declining, as republican senators were selling off stock. And you continued to downplay it."

etc, etc.

[boutons_deux]

he hit and missed on that one.

you mean "swung and missed"

he's whiffed everything his entire life

[koriwhat]

Calf tats

so edgy edgelord!

[koriwhat]

There's no rule that there have to be any Presidential debates. I agree with you that Biden might have more to lose than to gain from debating Trump.

lol advocating not to debate trump because there's "no rule" to do so... you probably want to get rid of the ec too in favor of the shitlibs. same ol story...

[Winehole23]

lol advocating not to debate trump because there's "no rule" to do so... you probably want to get rid of the ec too in favor of the shitlibs. same ol story...I don't care whether Trump and Biden debate or not, tbh. Describing the situation isn't advocacy.

I would prefer direct Presidential elections in the USA, but Constitutional amendments are a very tall order. Probably not gonna happen.

[ElNono]

you mean "swung and missed"

he's whiffed everything his entire life

doh yes

[Pelicans78]

so edgy edgelord!

Calf tats

[koriwhat]

Calf tats

imagine thinking you're hurting me with such a lame jab that's been parroted here the past 10 yrs. who fucking cares? i'm covered in tattoos you dumb fuck. :tu

activate your edgelord status!

[koriwhat]

.

[boutons_deux]

https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/116375992_3928128817203570_3162180444269129363_n.j pg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=825194&_nc_ohc=VXunBVg3Lb0AX8Iz8CN&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=98034555db49d2011b379de25826de85&oe=5F46D2B4

[Pelicans78]

imagine thinking you're hurting me with such a lame jab that's been parroted here the past 10 yrs. who fucking cares? i'm covered in tattoos you dumb fuck. :tu

activate your edgelord status!

Calf tats

[koriwhat]

Calf tats

keep on parroting because you're not clever enough. :tu

[TheGreatYacht]

Frontline Doctors, Frontline Psyop

https://youtu.be/3H44fMYBj5E

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Spurtacular, this dude put up another video yesterday but it was only an hour before YouTube took it down. So I don't know how long this video is gonna be available.

[DMC]

Lol you’ve mentioned this shit over and over. Beholden to just this.

You already said you don't have a 401K so why do you give a fuck other than to just run your suck?

[tholdren]

midnightpulp says lockdowns and masks work. With no evidence to prove this. But he recommends

Midnightpulp says there's no solid proof either way that hydrox works but its not scientific and doesn't work....

Midnightpulp has a bias problem

Sad he's made it political