Are the protests hurting Biden?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/MattWolking/status/1299427122629541888?s=20

:tu

[Isitjustme?]

Shitty polls are killing his momentum. Trafalgar is the only one pumping out polls that have republicans leading. Peters who has been leading his republican challenger by 10 or so points for months now is now supposedly behind by 1 point. He lost 10 points overnight? Ditto for Biden in Michigan.


Looking at this Political Polls twitter account I follow and A bunch of great nationwide polls came out for him today:

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Republicans really are smoking crack if they think people are going to look at the complete shithole shape this country is in right now with Covid-19 and riots and blame it all on Joe Biden who has been locked in his basement powerless this whole time. The entitre reason the blacks are furious is cops are getting away with murder and our pussyface in chief literally defends the cops at every turn but yeah its Joe Biden's fault :lol

[Spurtacular]

She's not going to answer your emails, derp.

Emails?

[Ef-man]

Looking at this Political Polls twitter account I follow and A bunch of great nationwide polls came out for him today:

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1298851900046049281

Republicans really are smoking crack if they think people are going to look at the complete shithole shape this country is in right now with Covid-19 and riots and blame it all on Joe Biden who has been locked in his basement powerless this whole time. The entitre reason the blacks are furious is cops are getting away with murder and our pussyface in chief literally defends the cops at every turn but yeah its Joe Biden's fault :lol

:tu

Republican crack, hell of a drug.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/ryanavent/status/1299365116673232896?s=20

Fake racial narratives are one of the left's greatest strengths and it fuels the violent mobs on the streets.

[ducks]

Testing and contact tracing for starters.

Testing lol
Trump will have a vaccine out
Biden will put brakes on vaccine

[Reck]

Testing lol
Trump will have a vaccine out
Biden will put brakes on vaccine

Nobody is gonna take a rushed vaccine.

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/MattWolking/status/1299427122629541888?s=20

:tu

Reck randomly lashed out to me about Trump not winning Minnesota. Chumpettes must be getting nervous. :lol

[Spurtacular]

Looking at this Political Polls twitter account I follow and A bunch of great nationwide polls came out for him today:

1299355076004282369
1299349040241541120
1299348627920429056
1298851900046049281

Republicans really are smoking crack if they think people are going to look at the complete shithole shape this country is in right now with Covid-19 and riots and blame it all on Joe Biden who has been locked in his basement powerless this whole time. The entitre reason the blacks are furious is cops are getting away with murder and our pussyface in chief literally defends the cops at every turn but yeah its Joe Biden's fault :lol

Moar fake double digit leads. :lmao

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/ryanavent/status/1299365116673232896?s=20

Fake racial narratives are one of the left's greatest strengths and it fuels the violent mobs on the streets.

Alarmism is all Democrats have. They're unstable.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1299507253368639488?s=20

"Trump's America."

"We only demonize these people so it couldn't possibly be our doing."

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1299582881371578368?s=20

Just know every time Democrats and leftist media outlets push false racial narratives they are driving black people like this to insanity.

[Reck]

Reck randomly lashed out to me about Trump not winning Minnesota. Chumpettes must be getting nervous. :lol

Nervous? About Trump winning blue states?

[FrostKing]

Republicans really are smoking crack if they think people are going to look at the complete shithole shape this country is in right now with Covid-19 and riots and blame it all on Joe Biden who has been locked in his basement powerless this whole time. The entitre reason the blacks are furious is cops are getting away with murder and our pussyface in chief literally defends the cops at every turn but yeah its Joe Biden's fault :lol
Biden is a moderate. He isn't the issue. The reason his health is being so heavily discussed is because it might result in an individual and/or fringe branch of the party guiding the ship. One that America didn't elect.

[Ef-man]

Biden is a moderate. He isn't the issue. The reason his health is being so heavily discussed is because it might result in an individual and/or fringe branch of the party guiding the ship. One that America didn't elect.

You think trump is in great shape and will live another four years?

Hanging onto the podium during his speech shows how bad his health is. Pence the evangelical and Steve Miller are fringe enough.

[Spurtacular]

Nervous? About Trump winning blue states?

Yea, "blue" :lol

Purple, bruh. BLM went and pissed off all those white suburban sympathizers. You unleashed the beast, bruh.

[Reck]

Yea, "blue" :lol

Purple, bruh. BLM went and pissed off all those white suburban sympathizers. You unleashed the beast, bruh.

Dude even Mondale won it. It hasn't gone red in almost 50 years.

[Spurtacular]

Dude even Mondale won it. It hasn't gone red in almost 50 years.

Minnesota is definitely an interesting study.

But reality is Minnesota has been creeping back to red. Hillary / Dems were desperate to restock it with refugee voters.
Last election, she won by only 1.5 percent. And I suspect that took some ballot box stuffing in MPLS. State's in play.

[Dirks_Finale]

You guys will love this..

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ChumpDumper (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=153) ElNono (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=8054) Blake (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3460) DMX7 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=12916) Trainwreck2100 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2320) djohn2oo8 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14870)

:lmao Dirks_Finale (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=52804)

This guy really cant do ramps. Haha

All that Mcdonalds.

[Spurtacular]

Dat denial. Going full-fledged Chumpette won't get you where you want to go.
You should've supported Tulsi and not dead weight. She was the one candidate who could've easily beat Trump.


She's not going to answer your emails, derp.


Emails?

Derp voting present again. :lol

[Dirks_Finale]

Dat denial. Going full-fledged Chumpette won't get you where you want to go.
You should've supported Tulsi and not dead weight. She was the one candidate who could've easily beat Trump.

The DNC are idiots. Tulsi would be up 20 points right now.

[Spurtacular]

The DNC are idiots. Tulsi would be up 20 points right now.

They're idiots but not for that reason. Tulsi does them no good. She's not corrupt and does not help with their heists.

[Dirks_Finale]

They're idiots but not for that reason. Tulsi does them no good. She's not corrupt and does not help with their heists.

They get Tulsi in there and at least she can eliminate most of Trump's executive orders. I know she'd do that much for them... beats watching Trump humiliate Biden on a debate stage and lose another election. Thank you DNC for trying to play it safe ala 2016.

[weebo]

Looking at this Political Polls twitter account I follow and A bunch of great nationwide polls came out for him today:

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1299349040241541120
1299348627920429056
1298851900046049281

Republicans really are smoking crack if they think people are going to look at the complete shithole shape this country is in right now with Covid-19 and riots and blame it all on Joe Biden who has been locked in his basement powerless this whole time. The entitre reason the blacks are furious is cops are getting away with murder and our pussyface in chief literally defends the cops at every turn but yeah its Joe Biden's fault :lol

Fat potus campaign...Biden will make worse all the horrible things I created!!

[pgardn]

Running Trump again is the pure idiocy.
Red team saying anyone can win for the blue team.
in any event it’s good for the country that the red team did not back out on trump.
The lines are drawn, we will see who America wants or more accurately who America does not want.

Blue team couldn’t ask for much more, neither could America.
Trump has succeeded in dividing the country, so good luck with four more years of feigning leadership. If Trump actually pulls this out, we have a much clearer notion that hate and fear drives people much harder than being UNITED.

A new flag should be in order with stars scattered and or divided and clumped in corners.

[Spurtacular]

They get Tulsi in there and at least she can eliminate most of Trump's executive orders. I know she'd do that much for them... beats watching Trump humiliate Biden on a debate stage and lose another election. Thank you DNC for trying to play it safe ala 2016.

Not wort the tradeoff. There cronies wouldn't get paid as much.

[Dirks_Finale]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/28/michelle-obama-white-people-dont-even-see-me-when-/

More race baiting courtesy of the Obama family.

What she described happens to any of us. Affluent, white soccer moms are inconsiderate to everyone, and it likely has nothing to do with your color.

Finding racism that doesn't exist, under every rock :lol

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/ryanavent/status/1299365116673232896?s=20

Fake racial narratives are one of the left's greatest strengths and it fuels the violent mobs on the streets.But you are a white nationalist.

[Ef-man]

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/28/michelle-obama-white-people-dont-even-see-me-when-/

More race baiting courtesy of the Obama family.

What she described happens to any of us. Affluent, white soccer moms are inconsiderate to everyone, and it likely has nothing to do with your color.

Finding racism that doesn't exist, under every rock :lol

For someone who is not a racist, you sure have interesting views.

Blacks will destroy western civilization, US latinos hate poor illegals, blacks feeling they are invisible to whites means they hate whites.

Not that long ago, germans thought lots of slavs were sub-human but fast forward and you are repeating some of these same feelings towards others.

Showing your bona fides.

[Winehole23]

Many white folks take it personally when you mention that we have a racial caste system in the USA. The defensiveness is telling.

[Dirks_Finale]

When did I say any of that stuff? What I am saying is that people create racism. For the most part, it does not exist in America, which is by far the greatest country in the world. It's 99% hoax and 1% legit. In Michelle's case, she's probably doing it for political purposes.

If white people, or hispanic or whoever fight the cops, they are gonna get shot too. I'm sure it's happening, it just isn't newsworthy for the biased media.



For someone who is not a racist, you sure have interesting views.

Blacks will destroy western civilization, US latinos hate poor illegals, blacks feeling they are invisible to whites means they hate whites.

Not that long ago, germans thought lots of slavs were sub-human but fast forward and you are repeating some of these same feelings towards others.

Showing your bona fides.

[Ef-man]

When did I say any of that stuff? What I am saying is that people create racism. For the most part, it does not exist in America, which is by far the greatest country in the world. It's 99% hoax and 1% legit. In Michelle's case, she's probably doing it for political purposes.

If white people, or hispanic or whoever fight the cops, they are gonna get shot too. I'm sure it's happening, it just isn't newsworthy for the biased media.

People create racism? No shit.

Racism for most part does not exist in US? Bullshit.

When did you say these things, look at your posts.

And no, cop shooting of unarmed people should not be a regular recurring happening. That they are being video taped and no longer have to rely on only incident survivor’s (cop’s) version of events, throws lots of doubts as to legitimacy of shooting.

Dont pretend you are being objective on race issues.

[Will Hunting]

The “cops shoot white people too!” strawman is such a shitty argument. Cops being trigger happy and killing white people is a fucking problem too, the fact American cops fire their weapons exponentially more than cops in other developed countries is something we should be trying to reform regardless of race.

[Dirks_Finale]

Where's the proof that it exists, though? For example, where is the proof that the a-hole cop in Minnesota wasn't just an a-hole cop having a bad day? (Maybe his wife would have been the person he killed later that night) Why assume he is racist because he is white and George Floyd is black? People are always rushing to conclusions that fit their narrative. I'm not saying there are not those isolated cases. But I think many want to believe racism is very prevalant, but in actuality, I believe that 99% of people here are not that superficial in 2020.



People create racism? No shit.

Racism for most part does not exist in US? Bullshit.

When did you say these things, look at your posts.

And no, cop shooting of unarmed people should not be a regular recurring happening. That they are being video taped and no longer have to rely on only incident survivor’s (cop’s) version of events, throws lots of doubts as to legitimacy of shooting.

Dont pretend you are being objective on race issues.

[Dirks_Finale]

The “cops shoot white people too!” strawman is such a shitty argument. Cops being trigger happy and killing white people is a fucking problem too, the fact American cops fire their weapons exponentially more than cops in other developed countries is something we should be trying to reform regardless of race.

And there is truth in this statement. Unloading an entire magazine into the back of a person is unacceptable. Blake should probably not be paralyzed right now if their PD protocol had been modified.

[Ef-man]

Where's the proof that it exists, though? For example, where is the proof that the a-hole cop in Minnesota wasn't just an a-hole cop having a bad day? (Maybe his wife would have been the person he killed later that night) Why assume he is racist because he is white and George Floyd is black? People are always rushing to conclusions that fit their narrative. I'm not saying there are not those isolated cases. But I think many want to believe racism is very prevalant, but in actuality, I believe that 99% of people here are not that superficial in 2020.


Trying to deflect?

Why would several cops pull guns on unarmed man walking away from them? Why would cops responding to a shooting of several people ignore a person in the area with a semi-automatic rifle walking away from the area? Why would cop ignore pleas of person he has subdued for close to 9 minutes? And list goes, on and on.

But it is obvious that cops see and respond to races differently, even if they or you will not admit it.

Is it racism? You bet it is.

[FrostKing]

The “cops shoot white people too!” strawman is such a shitty argument. Cops being trigger happy and killing white people is a fucking problem too, the fact American cops fire their weapons exponentially more than cops in other developed countries is something we should be trying to reform regardless of race.
Disagree. We should first reform the quality of our general public not the other way around

But liberals always had an issue with spanking. Now there is only 1 parent in the home...atleast when not at one of their 2,3 jobs.

[ChumpDumper]

Disagree. We should first reform the quality of our general public not the other way around

But liberals always had an issue with spanking. Now there is only 1 parent in the home...atleast when not at one of their 2,3 jobs.I'll let you spank the cops and see what happens.

[Splits]

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[Blake]

https://twitter.com/MattWolking/status/1299427122629541888?s=20

:tu

6 whole mayors? Whoa!

[Will Hunting]

6 whole mayors? Whoa!
I wouldn’t write this story off. The iron range was the one part of Minnesota outside of the Minneapolis St Paul area that stayed reliably blue in 2016. If that area trends red the state becomes a lot closer.

[Blake]

I wouldn’t write this story off. The iron range was the one part of Minnesota outside of the Minneapolis St Paul area that stayed reliably blue in 2016. If that area trends red the state becomes a lot closer.

Eh maybe so. I take it more as the Trump party desperately trying to dig up any Democrats from anywhere they can find them in response to the historically incredible number of high profile GOPers that are endorsing Biden.

Including 3 prominent Minnesota former governor/senators

[RD2191]

Trumper got waxed in Portland, shit is definitely starting to pop off.

[Spurtacular]

6 whole mayors? Whoa!

Iron Range is basically the next biggest Democrat stronghold after TC. This doesn't bode well for Dems in a state expected to be close.

[Will Hunting]

Eh maybe so. I take it more as the Trump party desperately trying to dig up any Democrats from anywhere they can find them in response to the historically incredible number of high profile GOPers that are endorsing Biden.

Including 3 prominent Minnesota former governor/senators
I don't think establishment Republicans endorsing Biden is going to do much. Trump's entire appeal is that we've had a political establishment that in the last 50 years has done fuck all to help Americans. His base of Republicans and rebellious Democrats doesn't care about establishment endorsements.

Unemployment in the iron range went from 10+% in June 2009 to 4.9% in November 2016, so this is another messaging issue; there's no logical reason they should view Obama so unfavorably. They do because Trump made a convincing case and the Democrats haven't adequately countered it. They've only kept nominating candidates who have a reputation as globalists who are unfriendly to labor. The iron range doesn't vote Dem because of gay marriage and transgender bathrooms, they've only voted Dem for so long because Dems were supposed to be the labor friendly party.

The reason I think MN is especially concerning is because in 2018, there were 3 house seats that flipped from blue to red, and 2 of those seats were in Minnesota (1 of which being the seat where the iron range counties are). The Dems clobbered the Republicans in both 2018 senate races and in the gubernatorial race but it's a state where Trump has plenty of room to grow his rural base from 2016 (vs. states like Pennsylvania where he ran up the score in rural counties and doesn't really have a way to materially grow his base there).

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/1300053994837082114?s=20

Ads like these seem effective tbh

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/1300053994837082114?s=20

Ads like these seem effective tbhTo you, sure. You've already posted that.

[Reck]

I don't think establishment Republicans endorsing Biden is going to do much. Trump's entire appeal is that we've had a political establishment that in the last 50 years has done fuck all to help Americans. His base of Republicans and rebellious Democrats doesn't care about establishment endorsements.

Unemployment in the iron range went from 10+% in June 2009 to 4.9% in November 2016, so this is another messaging issue; there's no logical reason they should view Obama so unfavorably. They do because Trump made a convincing case and the Democrats haven't adequately countered it. They've only kept nominating candidates who have a reputation as globalists who are unfriendly to labor. The iron range doesn't vote Dem because of gay marriage and transgender bathrooms, they've only voted Dem for so long because Dems were supposed to be the labor friendly party.

The reason I think MN is especially concerning is because in 2018, there were 3 house seats that flipped from blue to red, and 2 of those seats were in Minnesota (1 of which being the seat where the iron range counties are). The Dems clobbered the Republicans in both 2018 senate races and in the gubernatorial race but it's a state where Trump has plenty of room to grow his rural base from 2016 (vs. states like Pennsylvania where he ran up the score in rural counties and doesn't really have a way to materially grow his base there).

As long as Biden improves on the numbers Hillary didn't even in the slightest I think that should offset the gains in rural areas where Trump might see an uptick.

I saw a 2008 and 2012 Minnesota map vs 2016 and she underformed so mightily every where. Just look at this.

2008
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2012
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/17/Minnesota_presidential_election_results_2012.svg/350px-Minnesota_presidential_election_results_2012.svg.p ng

2016
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7a/Minnesota_Presidential_Election_Results_2016.svg/350px-Minnesota_Presidential_Election_Results_2016.svg.p ng

It was pretty much hold station for Obama in 2008 and 12 and then complete collapse in 2016.

Minnesota is our Texas. Might turn red and might turn blue......in the future.

[Trainwreck2100]

https://twitter.com/SteveScalise/status/1300053994837082114?s=20

Ads like these seem effective tbh

Scalise with the shitty repost bads

[Will Hunting]

:lol if this law & order message was making headway, you'd see a change in behavior from how the Biden campaign is addressing it. Biden has always been someone who will morph his message based on how the political winds were blowing. If his campaign was nervous about these protests costing him the election, he'd be doing more instead of tweeting "lol these protests are happening in Trump's America not mine"

If Biden loses to Trump it's going to be because Americans still trust Trump on the economy more than they trust Biden. That's currently the biggest hurdle Biden faces. Suburban families aren't worried about protesters, they're worried about feeding their families and sending their kids to college.

[Reck]

To you, sure. You've already posted that.

Did Twitter just tagged this loser's tweet with a "manipulated media" warning? :lmao

[Will Hunting]

Did Twitter just tagged this loser's tweet with a "manipulated media" warning? :lmao
:lmao it appears so

Nathan89 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20260) better get in here and start throwing a temper tantrum about BigTech.

[ChumpDumper]

Did Twitter just tagged this loser's tweet with a "manipulated media" warning? :lmao:rollin

[Will Hunting]

Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) This is why twitter tagged it as manipulated. They spliced "for police" into the question Barkan asked Biden to make it appear as if Biden wanted to take funding away from police.

In other words, they took advantage of the fact someone with ALS can only speak through an artificial voice assistance that's easily manipulated. Absolutely fucking disgusting and shameful.

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Nathan89 get in here and admit you're spreading fake news.

[RD2191]

Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) This is why twitter tagged it as manipulated. They spliced "for police" into the question Barkan asked Biden to make it appear as if Biden wanted to take funding away from police.

In other words, they took advantage of the fact someone with ALS can only speak through an artificial voice assistance that's easily manipulated. Absolutely fucking disgusting and shameful.

1300075359929544705

Nathan89 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20260) get in here and admit you're spreading fake news.
Fucking wow.

[Spurtacular]

^^^

Damning ad, Will. Crying about whatever you think is not technically right is not going to get it done.
The images are powerful. People are going to reject violent Democrats.

[Will Hunting]

^^^

Damning ad, Will. Crying about whatever you think is not technically right is not going to get it done.
The images are powerful. People are going to reject violent Democrats.
:lmao not technically right. They manipulated someone's voice in order to misrepresent Biden saying he's in favor of defunding the police when he isn't. If the images themselves were powerful, they wouldn't need to ad their own fake news propaganda.

I agree the images are a powerful depiction of how much Trump has run this country into the ground.

[ChumpDumper]

Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) This is why twitter tagged it as manipulated. They spliced "for police" into the question Barkan asked Biden to make it appear as if Biden wanted to take funding away from police.

In other words, they took advantage of the fact someone with ALS can only speak through an artificial voice assistance that's easily manipulated. Absolutely fucking disgusting and shameful.

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Nathan89 get in here and admit you're spreading fake news.Nathan is a liar. It's all part of his failed ideology.

[ChumpDumper]

^^^

Damning ad, Will. Crying about whatever you think is not technically right is not going to get it done.
The images are powerful. People are going to reject violent Democrats.:lmao I just proved you're a liar, derp

No surprise you want to push this lie too.

[Spurtacular]

:lmao not technically right. They manipulated someone's voice in order to misrepresent Biden saying he's in favor of defunding the police when he isn't. If the images themselves were powerful, they wouldn't need to ad their own fake news propaganda.

I agree the images are a powerful depiction of how much Trump has run this country into the ground.

Biden has came out in favor of defunding police before trying to walk it back. You brought this shellacking on yourself. Remember that.
Don't give stand down orders and let people riot if you don't like the ass kicking coming your way.

[ChumpDumper]

Biden has came out in favor of defunding police before trying to walk it back. You brought this shellacking on yourself. Remember that.
Don't give stand down orders and let people riot if you don't like the ass kicking coming your way.Why do you lie?

[Will Hunting]

Biden has came out in favor of defunding police before trying to walk it back. You brought this shellacking on yourself. Remember that.
Don't give stand down orders and let people riot if you don't like the ass kicking coming your way.
Show me where Biden came out in favor of defunding police. Chances are if he had the alt right wouldn't need to manipulate the voice of someone with ALS in order to make it seem like he had.

Do you condone the part of this video where they manipulate the voice assistance of someone with ALS?

[Reck]

Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) This is why twitter tagged it as manipulated. They spliced "for police" into the question Barkan asked Biden to make it appear as if Biden wanted to take funding away from police.

In other words, they took advantage of the fact someone with ALS can only speak through an artificial voice assistance that's easily manipulated. Absolutely fucking disgusting and shameful.

1300075359929544705

Nathan89 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20260) get in here and admit you're spreading fake news.

Unreal.

The party of law and order making up their own truth to fit their narrative at the expense of a disabled person.

That is sick.

Also how many times does Biden the milquetoast moderate have to say he is not only for the police but also wants to fund them even more. He actually said that.

The sheepdogs will still eat it up that he’s against.

[Spurtacular]

Show me where Biden came out in favor of defunding police. Chances are if he had the alt right wouldn't need to manipulate the voice of someone with ALS in order to make it seem like he had.

Do you condone the part of this video where they manipulate the voice assistance of someone with ALS?

When the narrative first was popularized he supported it when asked about it. A day or two later, him and/or his handlers walked it back, calling it reallocating resources and whatever else.
Honestly, who cares what Biden says. He's a puppet who isn't going to make the decisions. If you want grubby handlers as your president, vote Biden. He's just a figurehead.

I'd have to see the evidence of manipulation; but I'm not bothered because that video delivered the kill shots long before that, anyways.

[ChumpDumper]

Show me where Biden came out in favor of defunding police. Chances are if he had the alt right wouldn't need to manipulate the voice of someone with ALS in order to make it seem like he had.

Do you condone the part of this video where they manipulate the voice assistance of someone with ALS?He really likes lying about the disabled or people he thinks are disabled. Gets his jollies.

[Will Hunting]

When the narrative first was popularized he supported it when asked about it. A day or two later, him and/or his handlers walked it back, calling it reallocating resources and whatever else.
Honestly, who cares what Biden says. He's a puppet who isn't going to make the decisions. If you want grubby handlers as your president, vote Biden. He's just a figurehead.

I'd have to see the evidence of manipulation; but I'm not bothered because that video delivered the kill shots long before that, anyways.
Oh OK so you can't provide any proof that Biden supported defunding the police.

And you're OK with media manipulation in order to misle voters, or in other words ramping up the fascism.

[Will Hunting]

Here is the proof that the video is manipulated. Actual conversation between Barkan and Biden:

Start at 2:55

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[Will Hunting]

:lmao Nathan saying that this video was "effective"

https://i.ibb.co/K5Hnd01/Scalise-Tweet.png

[Spurtacular]

Oh OK so you can't provide any proof that Biden supported defunding the police.

And you're OK with media manipulation in order to misle voters, or in other words ramping up the fascism.

Can't? I watched report(s) on it in the wake of it. I don't go searching. If you don't accept that I saw it, that's fine. I don't lie about stuff like this; but you can believe whatever you want to believe.

As for the alleged manipulation, I think you just want an easy out rather than coming to terms with Democrats fostering and allowing these riots.

[Will Hunting]

Can't? I watched report(s) on it in the wake of it. I don't go searching. If you don't accept that I saw it, that's fine. I don't lie about stuff like this; but you can believe whatever you want to believe.

As for the alleged manipulation, I think you just want an easy out rather than coming to terms with Democrats fostering and allowing these riots.
:lmao "I don't lie about stuff like this"

You're openly condoning an ad with spliced audio that lies about something Biden said.

[Nathan89]

Can't? I watched report(s) on it in the wake of it. I don't go searching. If you don't accept that I saw it, that's fine. I don't lie about stuff like this; but you can believe whatever you want to believe.

As for the alleged manipulation, I think you just want an easy out rather than coming to terms with Democrats fostering and allowing these riots.

He's not a serious user tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao "I don't lie about stuff like this"

You're openly condoning an ad with spliced audio that lies about something Biden said.Dude is a proven liar.

[ChumpDumper]

He's not a serious user tbh.Why do you spread lies, Nathan?

Is it your failed ideology?

[Spurtacular]

:lmao "I don't lie about stuff like this"

You're openly condoning an ad with spliced audio that lies about something Biden said.

I've condoned nothing. The ad is effective in delivering the kill shot long before that bit at the end.
You can clutch your pearls rather than come to terms. I'm sure you will.

[Spurtacular]

Dude is a proven liar.

:lol Butthurt derp

[Will Hunting]

I've condoned nothing. The ad is effective in delivering the kill shot long before that bit at the end.
You can clutch your pearls rather than come to terms. I'm sure you will.
The Nazi ads about Jews were effective into scaring people into Nazism.

Why include the bit at the end if the ad was effective without it?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Butthurt derpYou sure are.

Why do you lie?

[Reck]

:lmao Nathan saying that this video was "effective"

https://i.ibb.co/K5Hnd01/Scalise-Tweet.png

Any sane person would agree that this is happening in Trump’s America. The people who are using the OH NO BIDEN’S AMERICA are the same people who pretend to care about people when the spotlight is on but definitely dont as long as soon as it isn't and they already have theirs.

We have a couple of honest brokers who post here in fact. DMC, Darrin, Chris etc.

[Spurtacular]

Here is the proof that the video is manipulated. Actual conversation between Barkan and Biden:

Start at 2:55

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:lol They were talking about police. And you're seriously getting all bent out of shape that they spliced police in there for the sake of time?

Give me a fucking break, Will. Do you just mindlessly run with these talking points?

Yea, I condone editing that doesn't substantively change anything. Clutch your pearls about that.

[Nathan89]

Why do you spread lies, Nathan?

Is it your failed ideology?

Why are you inflaming a tidbit of an ad to position me as a liar? Did you call out the original user that posted about this last night's shooting and the original comments that automatically assume a trump shooter and leftist victim? Did you call out the people calling Kyle a white supremacist based on nothing? No.

[ChumpDumper]

Why are you inflaming a tidbit of an ad to position me as a liar? Did you call out the original user that posted about this last night's shooting and the original comments that automatically assume a trump shooter and leftist victim? Did you call out the people calling Kyle a white supremacist based on nothing? No.Are they on this board?

No.

You are on this board and you're spreading lies.

Why?

[Will Hunting]

Yea, I condone editing that doesn't substantively change anything.
So you condone fascist style propaganda? All I needed to know.

Ignore list time.

[Spurtacular]

So you condone fascist style propaganda? All I needed to know.

Ignore list time.

I said I condone editing that doesn't substantively alter the truthfulness of matters.

But :lol that you're syncing up your menstruation with the other chumpettes so much to play such cards.

[Nathan89]

Are they on this board?

No.

You are on this board and you're spreading lies.

Why?

Every thing in that comment refers to things on this forum.

[Nathan89]

.

[ChumpDumper]

Every thing in that comment refers to things on this forum.They are not on this board.

You are on this board and you're spreading lies.

Why?

[Nathan89]

They have all been on the board. You didn't say anything. Now you inflaming a small tidbit. Get real. You seem more activated over this than the shooting last night or the leftist mobs celebrating the shooting or the mobs chanting "death to America".

[ChumpDumper]

They have all been on the board.What are their screen names?

[TSA]

Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) This is why twitter tagged it as manipulated. They spliced "for police" into the question Barkan asked Biden to make it appear as if Biden wanted to take funding away from police.

In other words, they took advantage of the fact someone with ALS can only speak through an artificial voice assistance that's easily manipulated. Absolutely fucking disgusting and shameful.

1300075359929544705

Nathan89 get in here and admit you're spreading fake news.

https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1300102819333066753

[Will Hunting]

https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1300102819333066753
Is the quote from the tweet doctored? Yes or no.

Derp at least admitted it was doctored but said he doesn't care. I can respect that more than denying the obvious.

[Blake]

Did Twitter just tagged this loser's tweet with a "manipulated media" warning? :lmao

:lol Nathan

[Blake]

Reck (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=14412) This is why twitter tagged it as manipulated. They spliced "for police" into the question Barkan asked Biden to make it appear as if Biden wanted to take funding away from police.

In other words, they took advantage of the fact someone with ALS can only speak through an artificial voice assistance that's easily manipulated. Absolutely fucking disgusting and shameful.

1300075359929544705

Nathan89 get in here and admit you're spreading fake news.

Goddam

[Will Hunting]

Goddam
Trumptards are perfectly fine with spreading false information and spliced quotes.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1300109128275316738?s=20

Big tech is banning conservative journalists for posting opinions they disagree with. A terrible ideology is spreading through our country.

[Spurtacular]

:lol Blake with weak chime-ins. Par.

[Trainwreck2100]

https://mobile.twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1300102819333066753

they took the guys computer voice and added something he didn't say

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1300109128275316738?s=20

Big tech is banning conservative journalists for posting opinions they disagree with. A terrible ideology is spreading through our country.True, that's why they're suspending the accounts of that failed ideology.:tu

[Will Hunting]

they took the guys computer voice and added something he didn't say
That's it and that's all.

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1300109128275316738?s=20

Big tech is banning conservative journalists for posting opinions they disagree with. A terrible ideology is spreading through our country.

Repubs aren't doing anything to stop this stuff though. But for this election cycle, I think Democrats are going to suffer the consequences, as they are the biggest enablers.

[Nathan89]

To discuss a tidbit of an ad during times like this is foolish. It's a distraction.

[Spurtacular]

When is the last time you saw any Senator leave the White House that way at night, derp?

:lol Crying that a senator deserves to be harassed for going out a certain exit.

[ChumpDumper]

they took the guys computer voice and added something he didn't sayTaking advantage of people who literally can't speak for themselves.

Failed ideology.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Crying that a senator deserves to be harassed for going out a certain exit.derp makes sure he folds three days later.:lmao

[Will Hunting]

Devin Nunes to his credit has done exactly what I said conservatives should do if they think twitter sucks. Go start your own social media platform where you control what is and isn't censored.

Parler (stupid fucking name) can choose to censor or not censor whatever it wants just like twitter can.

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[TSA]

Is the quote from the tweet doctored? Yes or no.

Derp at least admitted it was doctored but said he doesn't care. I can respect that more than denying the obvious.

It was doctored and accurate at the same time.

[Will Hunting]

It was doctored
^Another conservative who endorses manipulated quotes used in campaign ads :tu

[ChumpDumper]

It was doctored and accurate at the same time.Except it wasn't accurate at all.

Why do you want to steal the voice of the disabled, TSA?

[TSA]

^Another conservative who endorses manipulated quotes used in campaign ads :tu

Pointing out what it was isn’t an endorsement. It should not have been doctored, but it accurately reflected the conversation.

[ChumpDumper]

Pointing out what it was isn’t an endorsement. It should not have been doctored, but it accurately reflected the conversation.:lmao apologist

Just another h:lolnest br:lolker

[Will Hunting]

Pointing out what it was isn’t an endorsement. It should not have been doctored, but it accurately reflected the conversation.
Fair enough, but I don't think it was totally accurate as this isn't a simple binary outcome of defund or not to defund. The people who are making the blind statement "defund the police" are idiots, but I think there are specific parts of modern day police in America that we need to do away with.

My view is that show the actual conservation and let people decide for themselves on what Biden is saying/not saying. Through the interview he was talking about getting rid of things that I think most people agree are counterproductive (i.e., military equipment being used by police). Splicing the quote the way it was spliced makes it seem like Biden is blindly saying "DEFUND THE POLICE" when he's actually talking about specific parts of the police in the interview. That's my issue with it.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1279187548905013249?s=20

Good people have been calling out this nonsense all along the way. This is 2 months old.

Others like Kamala were pushing donation links to bail out those arrested.

Now lip service is being paid because they are scared the media can't hide reality with a "peaceful protest" title.

[Spurtacular]

Pointing out what it was isn’t an endorsement. It should not have been doctored, but it accurately reflected the conversation.

Careful. He put me on his ignore list for saying/"condoning" that. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1279187548905013249?s=20

Good people have been calling out this nonsense all alone the way. This is 2 months old.

Others like Kamala were pushing donation links to bail out those arrested.

Now lip service is being paid because they are scared the media can't hide reality with a "peaceful protest" title.It's not a war.

You want to make it a war.

You proved you will lie to make this a war.

Your ideology is failed.

[Spurtacular]

Fair enough, but I don't think it was totally accurate as this isn't a simple binary outcome of defund or not to defund. The people who are making the blind statement "defund the police" are idiots, but I think there are specific parts of modern day police in America that we need to do away with.

My view is that show the actual conservation and let people decide for themselves on what Biden is saying/not saying. Through the interview he was talking about getting rid of things that I think most people agree are counterproductive (i.e., military equipment being used by police). Splicing the quote the way it was spliced makes it seem like Biden is blindly saying "DEFUND THE POLICE" when he's actually talking about specific parts of the police in the interview. That's my issue with it.

Biden is talking about defunding police as he and his handlers have defined it. You're making this issue paramount when it's essentially nothing.

[ChumpDumper]

Biden is talking about defunding police as he and his handlers have defined it. You're making this issue paramount when it's essentially nothing.:lol they explicitly discussed what defunding meant in that conversation, derp.

You haven't even watched it.

[Will Hunting]

It's not a war.

You want to make it a war.

You proved you will lie to make this a war.

Your ideology is failed.
If the Trumptards really wanted a war, they wouldn't go after scrawny hipster protesters in Portland. They'd go into South Chicago and make their presence felt there, but they don't because they know they'd get massacred by the locals.

[Spurtacular]

:lol they explicitly discussed what defunding meant in that conversation, derp.

You haven't even watched it.

I reviewed the video to confirm it isn't the great lie Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032) is making it out to be.

Get a hold of yourself, derp. Stop tiny w hunting. It's unbecoming.

[ChumpDumper]

If the Trumptards really wanted a war, they wouldn't go after scrawny hipster protesters in Portland. They'd go into South Chicago and make their presence felt there, but they don't because they know they'd get massacred by the locals.Yep, it's no mistake they rode into one of the whitest metro areas they could find.

[Spurtacular]

If the Trumptards really wanted a war, they wouldn't go after scrawny hipster protesters in Portland. They'd go into South Chicago and make their presence felt there, but they don't because they know they'd get massacred by the locals.

:lol Making fun of the lily white cucks in Portland basically.

[Spurtacular]

Yep, it's no mistake they rode into one of the whitest metro areas they could find.

:lol Seconding how beta your fellow cucks in Portland are.

[Spurtacular]

Chumpettes getting mad that nobody wants to take ownership of a shithole. :lmao

[Will Hunting]

Yep, it's no mistake they rode into one of the whitest metro areas they could find.
The protests in DC are a lot more out of control than they are in Portland, but not a fucking chance those fat rednecks are about to ride through Southeast DC with MAGA flags anytime soon :lol

[Nathan89]

Devin Nunes to his credit has done exactly what I said conservatives should do if they think twitter sucks. Go start your own social media platform where you control what is and isn't censored.

Parler (stupid fucking name) can choose to censor or not censor whatever it wants just like twitter can.

1288270659156664321

Parler is trash but it became the most popular alternative. I'm really not sure how they managed to do that.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Making fun of the lily white cucks in Portland basically.The dead enders who look like koriwhat? Of course.

Pretty much an even match for you guys.:tu

[ChumpDumper]

Parler is trash but it became the most popular alternative. I'm really not sure how they managed to do that.They probably allow racism and child porn.

[TSA]

Fair enough, but I don't think it was totally accurate as this isn't a simple binary outcome of defund or not to defund. The people who are making the blind statement "defund the police" are idiots, but I think there are specific parts of modern day police in America that we need to do away with.

My view is that show the actual conservation and let people decide for themselves on what Biden is saying/not saying. Through the interview he was talking about getting rid of things that I think most people agree are counterproductive (i.e., military equipment being used by police). Splicing the quote the way it was spliced makes it seem like Biden is blindly saying "DEFUND THE POLICE" when he's actually talking about specific parts of the police in the interview. That's my issue with it.

When Barkan was asking Biden if they could agree on redirecting some of the funding he was referring to the police, as shown in their earlier conversation. It shouldn’t have been doctored but it didn’t make up something Barkan wasn’t talking about. It’s not like they manipulated his voice and made him say should we defund the police and then splice Biden I’m answering yes.

[Will Hunting]

They probably allow racism and child porn.
Sucks for conservatives that all the good coders and tech workers are liberal and want nothing to do with conservative ideology.

[Spurtacular]

The dead enders who look like koriwhat? Of course.

Pretty much an even match for you guys.:tu

Are ghetto blacks your superiors, then?

[Spurtacular]

When Barkan was asking Biden if they could agree on redirecting some of the funding he was referring to the police, as shown in their earlier conversation. It shouldn’t have been doctored but it didn’t make up something Barkan wasn’t talking about. It’s not like they manipulated his voice and made him say should we defund the police and then splice Biden I’m answering yes.
Will Hunting Better block him for saying what I said.

[Will Hunting]

When Barkan was asking Biden if they could agree on redirecting some of the funding he was referring to the police, as shown in their earlier conversation. It shouldn’t have been doctored but it didn’t make up something Barkan wasn’t talking about. It’s not like they manipulated his voice and made him say should we defund the police and then splice Biden I’m answering yes.
It oversimplified what Biden was saying. Biden was talking about the specific parts of American policing he wants to do away with which would inevitably free up funds.

[Will Hunting]

I have no idea how police funding works, but I have a feeling it's like public school funding where an insane amount of money gets wasted on administrative positions/mid/upper management and the result is that the rank and file police get the shaft. Can anyone with knowledge of this provide any detail how accurate that is?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv/status/1300119927966310406?s=20

All these people are becoming more interested in alternative solutions or information. Many of the people are default Democrats and now they'll be open to reading and listening to conservative information. The insanity is a wake-up call that you are in the same boat as absolute lunatics.

[ChumpDumper]

Are ghetto blacks your superiors, then?In amount of firearms? Probably.

Are you superior to blacks, derp?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

It oversimplified what Biden was saying. Biden was talking about the specific parts of American policing he wants to do away with which would inevitably free up funds.

It didn’t even change the meaning to say defund the police, it still said redirect some of the funding. When Barkan asked Biden “but do we agree we can redirect some of the funding” who or what was Barkan talking about redirecting some of the funding from? The police.

Again, shouldn’t have been doctored but it wasn’t inaccurate. I thought it strange you took so much issue with it.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/KyleKashuv/status/1300119927966310406?s=20

All these people are becoming more interested in alternative solutions or information. Many of the people are default Democrats and now they'll be open to reading and listening to conservative information. The insanity is a wake-up call that you are in the same boat as absolute lunatics.If it's a place that allows overt racism and child porn, count me out.

I'll leave that to you guys.

[ChumpDumper]

It didn’t even change the meaning to say defund the police, it still said redirect some of the funding. When Barkan asked Biden “but do we agree we can redirect some of the funding” who or what was Barkan talking about redirecting some of the funding from? The police.

Again, shouldn’t have been doctored but it wasn’t inaccurate. I thought it strange you took so much issue with it.Because it's lying.

I don't find it strange you approve of lying.

[Reck]

Is the quote from the tweet doctored? Yes or no.

Derp at least admitted it was doctored but said he doesn't care. I can respect that more than denying the obvious.

TSA be like...one tweet to rule them all.

He doesn't have an original take. He basically talks through tweets these days.

[Will Hunting]

It didn’t even change the meaning to say defund the police, it still said redirect some of the funding. When Barkan asked Biden “but do we agree we can redirect some of the funding” who or what was Barkan talking about redirecting some of the funding from? The police.

Again, shouldn’t have been doctored but it wasn’t inaccurate. I thought it strange you took so much issue with it.
There are lines that I think shouldn't be crossed. When Trump says he took charge of funding HBCUs, it's incredibly misleading but I wouldn't say it's false. Flat out manipulating quotes to make it look like someone said something he didn't say crosses the line imo. It's an outright lie.

I find it strange you're spending energy defending (defunding was a typo :lol) something you say shouldn't have happened.

[ChumpDumper]

I find it strange you're spending energy defunding something you say shouldn't have happened.https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-WYYF8OG3nqk/UFC52DElTVI/AAAAAAAAC3U/H8uvlvXwVQU/s1600/stanley-hudson-nodding.gif

[Spurtacular]

In amount of firearms? Probably.

You think blacks have more guns than whites?

[ChumpDumper]

You think blacks have more guns than whites?Not necessarily. I think if the Patriot Paw Patrol rolled into south Chicago shooting paintballs and threatening to run over pedestrians, they'd probably get lit up.

Are you superior to blacks, derp?

Yes or no.

[Spurtacular]

Not necessarily. I think if the Patriot Paw Patrol rolled into south Chicago shooting paintballs and threatening to run over pedestrians, they'd probably get lit up.

Are you superior to blacks, derp?

Yes or no.

Why would they be using paintball guns? That's dumb.

:lol That your lily white pride drives you.

[ChumpDumper]

Why would they be using paintball guns? That's dumb. That's what they did in Portland, derp.

The videos of it were posted here.

Do you know anything about anything, derp?

Serious question.

Well, you did call your white supremacist brothers dumb. That's a start.:tu

[TSA]

There are lines that I think shouldn't be crossed. When Trump says he took charge of funding HBCUs, it's incredibly misleading but I wouldn't say it's false. Flat out manipulating quotes to make it look like someone said something he didn't say crosses the line imo. It's an outright lie.

I find it strange you're spending energy defending (defunding was a typo :lol) something you say shouldn't have happened.

I’m not defending it. I just think you’re overreacting a bit.

When Barkan asked Biden “but do we agree we can redirect some of the funding” who or what was Barkan talking about redirecting some of the funding from?

[Blake]

https://twitter.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1279187548905013249?s=20

Trump's America

[Blake]

I’m not defending it. I just think you’re overreacting a bit.

When Barkan asked Biden “but do we agree we can redirect some of the funding” who or what was Barkan talking about redirecting some of the funding from?

Jesus you're such a disingenuous fuck

[Blake]

TSA be like...one tweet to rule them all.

:lol

[Winehole23]

1300154429333803009

[TSA]

Jesus you're such a disingenuous fuck

I already said they shouldn’t have doctored it.

When Barkan asked Biden “but do we agree we can redirect some of the funding” who or what was Barkan talking about redirecting some of the funding from?

[Nathan89]

Trump's America

Kamala was sharing donation links to bail these people out.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1299902266208645123?s=20

If CNN shined light on what BLM really is Democrats would be toast. They are supporting a violent movement.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1299902266208645123?s=20

If CNN shined light on what BLM really is Democrats would be toast. They are supporting a violent movement.Might help if you posted a tweet with some violence in it.

[spurraider21]

Except I am not trying to push for every economic theory. Plus I was referring to people actually trying in institute it. You put Bernie in there and suddenly the dems shit themselves.
thats because dems arent socialists

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/KarluskaP/status/1299902266208645123?s=20

If CNN shined light on what BLM really is Democrats would be toast. They are supporting a violent movement.Biden has condemned the violence on all sides.

Which Dems have stated their support for street violence and arson? Be specific, if you're able.

[Winehole23]

1300118375868379136

[Nathan89]

Biden has condemned the violence on all sides.

Which Dems have stated their support for street violence and arson? Be specific, if you're able.

They conflate protests with riots when they support it.

Kamala was sharing donation links to pay their bail.

[ChumpDumper]

They conflate protests with riots when they support it.

Kamala was sharing donation links to pay their bail.Biden has condemned all violence.

Has Trump?

Yes or no.

Be honest.

[Winehole23]

They conflate protests with riots when they support it.

Kamala was sharing donation links to pay their bail.where's the evidence that BLM has directed or caused any violence?

[Nathan89]

.https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300085329207029760?s=20

Trump offered federal assistance and the Portland Mayor declined it. These people are failing their cities.

[ChumpDumper]

.https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300085329207029760?s=20

Trump offered federal assistance and the Portland Mayor declined it. These people are failing their cities.

Biden has condemned all violence.

Has Trump?

Yes or no.

Be honest.

[Nathan89]

Biden has condemned all violence.

Has Trump?

Yes or no.

Be honest.

Trump offered federal assistance to stop the violence. Democrats keep declining.

[TSA]

where's the evidence that BLM has directed or caused any violence?

:lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Trump offered federal assistance to stop the violence. Democrats keep declining.That's not an answer.

Biden has condemned all violence.

Has Trump?

Yes or no.

Be honest.

[DMC]

thats because dems arent socialists

Some are.

[Reck]

:lmao

You still won't answer my very same question from the other day. Quit with the force laughter and give a proper answer.

[Trainwreck2100]

.https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1300085329207029760?s=20

Trump offered federal assistance and the Portland Mayor declined it. These people are failing their cities.

So how would 4 more years of Trump change that.

[spurraider21]

Some are.
nah, not really. how many dems (assuming we're talking about the ones in office or the DNC) want to abolish private ownership of the means of production?

[ducks]

DI Poll: Trump Leads Biden Nationally, Key Battlegrounds

[Winehole23]

:lmaoBlaming a crowd of hundreds or thousands for the actions of a few dead enders and berserkers and putting it all down to BLM isn't very persuasive.

Do you have evidence that BLM has directed or directly caused street violence?

[ducks]

A new poll predicts a landslide victory for President Donald Trump this November.

Trump leads Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden by 3 percentage points in the latest Democracy Institute/Sunday Express poll 48%-45%, with pollsters predicting Trump will rout Biden in delegates, 309-229, as the president holds a lead over the former vice president in the swing states of Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

"Although Biden remains in a competitive race with Donald Trump, and may well do so until election day, his support isn't growing," said Democracy Institute director Patrick Basham, who believes Biden has already hit his "high watermark."

"And, tellingly, almost all of the issues that matter most to voters are trending in President Trump's favor."

[AaronY]

nah, not really. how many dems (assuming we're talking about the ones in office or the DNC) want to abolish private ownership of the means of production?
boutons. winehole too i think

[Reck]

A new poll predicts a landslide victory for President Donald Trump this November.

Trump leads Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden by 3 percentage points in the latest Democracy Institute/Sunday Express poll 48%-45%, with pollsters predicting Trump will rout Biden in delegates, 309-229, as the president holds a lead over the former vice president in the swing states of Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

"Although Biden remains in a competitive race with Donald Trump, and may well do so until election day, his support isn't growing," said Democracy Institute director Patrick Basham, who believes Biden has already hit his "high watermark."

"And, tellingly, almost all of the issues that matter most to voters are trending in President Trump's favor."

Who?

[Winehole23]

boutons. winehole too i thinkNegative.

I'm not politically doctrinaire, but it's fair to say I'm leaning SocDem. I was for Bernie, will vote for Biden.

[TSA]

Blaming a crowd of hundreds or thousands for the actions of a few dead enders and berserkers and putting it all down to BLM isn't very persuasive.

Do you have evidence that BLM has directed or directly caused street violence?

:lmao

[Winehole23]

:lmaoYou got nothing.

You've been propagandized.

[ducks]

Who?

DI Poll: Trump Leads Biden Nationally, Key Battlegrounds

[Reck]

TSA: Bot mode activated.

[ducks]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1329181/us-election-2020-donald-trump-joe-biden

The link

[Will Hunting]

:lmao another "Sunday Express" poll

[Reck]

https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/1329181/us-election-2020-donald-trump-joe-biden

The link

They're not a real pollster. They're a blog site.

https://democracyinstitute.org/

[TSA]

You got nothing.

:lmao

[ducks]

They're not a real pollster. They're a blog site.

https://democracyinstitute.org/

Got it right in 2016

[Bogie]

DI Poll: Trump Leads Biden Nationally, Key Battlegrounds

What’s it like to be dumber than spurtacular?

i mean that’s is a real high bar to get over, but you are clearing that hurdle like Edwin Moses.

[ducks]

What’s it like to be dumber than spurtacular?

i mean that’s is a real high bar to get over, but you are clearing that hurdle like Edwin Moses.

What a quality 5 post
Lol

[Blake]

Kamala was sharing donation links to bail these people out.

Trump's America tho

[TSA]

Trump's America tho

You can repeat that as much as you want to but it’s clear to everyone else which party’s governors and mayors are running the cities where this is all taking place.

[Reck]

You can repeat that as much as you want to but it’s clear to everyone else which party’s governors and mayors are running the cities where this is all taking place.

How is it clear?

[ChumpDumper]

You can repeat that as much as you want to but it’s clear to everyone else which party’s governors and mayors are running the cities where this is all taking place.
Pretty clears whose America it is.

[TSA]

How is it clear?

What party affiliation are the governors and mayors of the states/cities with the worst rioting?

[Reck]

What party affiliation are the governors and mayors of the states/cities with the worst rioting?

So Trump is only president of the south?

:cry meanie democrat mayors shitting on me bad!

[Will Hunting]

What party affiliation are the governors and mayors of the states/cities with the worst rioting?
What is a 2nd term of Trump going to do to stop the rioting if he can't stop it right now? His powers aren't to magically expand if he's re-elected.

[TSA]

So Trump is only president of the south?

:cry meanie democrat mayors shitting on me bad!

Not an answer, try again.

What party affiliation are the governors and mayors of the states/cities with the worst rioting?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/EmilyValdezKNX/status/1300184268312686592?s=20

Maybe Biden and the Democrats should stop endorsing the "fine people hoax".

[Winehole23]

What is a 2nd term of Trump going to do to stop the rioting if he can't stop it right now? His powers aren't to magically expand if he's re-elected.Assuming an orderly election and no ginned up national emergency is a lot to assume at this point. Trump's powers can expand a lot if he invokes the Insurrection Act or declares a state of emergency.

[ElNono]

:lmao another "Sunday Express" poll

:lol

[TSA]

What is a 2nd term of Trump going to do to stop the rioting if he can't stop it right now? His powers aren't to magically expand if he's re-elected.

You can’t have it both ways when you cry about the national guard being sent in.

[ElNono]

You can repeat that as much as you want to but it’s clear to everyone else which party’s governors and mayors are running the cities where this is all taking place.

Same party's governors and mayors that largely did not have this problem in the previous' administration(s)...

[Will Hunting]

Tumptards need to pick a lane. Either managing the protests/riots is a responsibility that rests squarely on mayors/governors, or it's a responsibility that the president shares in. If it's solely the responsibility of mayors/governors, then Trump getting re-elected will have no impact on how the riots/protests are managed. If the president shares in the responsibility, it means Trump's management of protests/riots in his 1st term has been an abject failure.

[Will Hunting]

Assuming an orderly election and no ginned up national emergency is a lot to assume at this point. Trump's powers can expand a lot if he invokes the Insurrection Act or declares a state of emergency.
He can do all of that right now if he wants to. If he believes that's the best solution then it's what he should be doing, he shouldn't be letting this fester so he can use it as a political issue.

[Will Hunting]

You can’t have it both ways when you cry about the national guard being sent in.
I have no idea what you're talking about but you didn't answer my question.

[DMC]

If the local authorities have a breakdown in their ability to protect American citizens, the federal government should intervene. It doesn't need to be bifurcated to "solely" anything. The local authority having jurisdiction doesn't get a free pass on incompetence just because it had to go to a higher level of authority. You're unraveling a bit, usually you're much more composed. Did someone else take over your account?

[Will Hunting]

If the local authorities have a breakdown in their ability to protect American citizens, the federal government should intervene. It doesn't need to be bifurcated to "solely" anything. You're unraveling a bit, usually you're much more composed. Did someone else take over your account?
I didn't say it needs to be bifurcated. You seem to think the president shares in responsibility judging from this post. If that's the case why is Trump waiting to intervene?

:lmao conservatives like DMC and Derp are angry that I'm more aggressive in calling out their bullshit than I normally am

[DMC]

I didn't say it needs to be bifurcated. You seem to think the president shares in responsibility judging from this post. If that's the case why is Trump waiting to intervene?

:lmao conservatives like DMC and Derp are angry that I'm more aggressive in calling out their bullshit than I normally am

The POTUS shares in responsibility if he does nothing about it. If his response is ineffective, he shares in responsibility. Everything up to the point of federal intervention is on the local authorities. After that it's on the feds. The power of the states to keep out the feds needs to be considered.

I am not angry. I'm pointing out that you aren't composed. Not that you are aggressive. You're making illogical leaps and ignoring reality a lot.

[ChumpDumper]

Didn't Trump already have feds on the ground and in the air in Portland?

[Will Hunting]

The POTUS shares in responsibility if he does nothing about it. If his response is ineffective, he shares in responsibility. Everything up to the point of federal intervention is on the local authorities. After that it's on the feds. The power of the states to keep out the feds needs to be considered.
That's completely fair and I for the most part agree with some exceptions. My question then is what is a 2nd Trump term going to do to solve it if he can't intervene right now?

[DMC]

Didn't Trump already have feds on the ground and in the air in Portland?

The attorney general for the US state of Oregon has filed a lawsuit against the federal government, accusing it of unlawfully detaining protesters.


Can't have it both ways. Either Portland accepts help or they don't. They are a state, not a department of the federal government.

[Will Hunting]

I am not angry. I'm pointing out that you aren't composed. Not that you are aggressive. You're making illogical leaps and ignoring reality a lot.
:lmao calling someone "uncomposed" for posting something you disagree with

[Trainwreck2100]

You can’t have it both ways when you cry about the national guard being sent in.

if he can't fix it now what can he do to fix it a year from now?

[ChumpDumper]

The attorney general for the US state of Oregon has filed a lawsuit against the federal government, accusing it of unlawfully detaining protesters.


Can't have it both ways. Either Portland accepts help or they don't. They are a state, not a department of the federal government.So they already had feds on the ground and failed.

Can't have it both ways.

Thanks.:tu

[DMC]

That's completely fair and I for the most part agree with some exceptions. My question then is what is a 2nd Trump term going to do to solve it if he can't intervene right now?

The only thing it could do is to remove funding from dem sources that might be supporting interstate protest-for-pay folks. That's assuming it's happening. Once the election has concluded, regardless the winner, the incentive to fund protests loses its luster, no foreseeable ROI short of the midterms.

[Winehole23]

He can do all of that right now if he wants to. If he believes that's the best solution then it's what he should be doing, he shouldn't be letting this fester so he can use it as a political issue.Now would be too soon, Trump wants to spoil the election. If he goes that route, I would expect declaring a state of emergency or invoking the Insurrection Act would be closer to the election.

[DMC]

:lmao calling someone "uncomposed" for posting something you disagree with

No, disagreement is expected. Becoming RG isn't. Usually you lace your takes with pragmatism, not just biased homeristic takes that change based on the party in question.

[Will Hunting]

The only thing it could do is to remove funding from dem sources that might be supporting interstate protest-for-pay folks. That's assuming it's happening. Once the election has concluded, regardless the winner, the incentive to fund protests loses its luster, no foreseeable ROI short of the midterms.
Oh cool protest funding conspiracies. Who's funding the protests? Soros and/or Bill Gates?

For what you say about me being uncomposed, you went from being a moderate conservative to being a conspiracy peddling Trumper :lol

[DMC]

Now would be too soon, Trump wants to spoil the election. If he goes that route, I would expect declaring a state of emergency or invoking the Insurrection Act would be closer to the election.

You'd have to ask SR21 or Vy65 or someone who understands the laws better, but there are limits to federal power where state issues are concerned.

[Nathan89]

Tumptards need to pick a lane. Either managing the protests/riots is a responsibility that rests squarely on mayors/governors, or it's a responsibility that the president shares in. If it's solely the responsibility of mayors/governors, then Trump getting re-elected will have no impact on how the riots/protests are managed. If the president shares in the responsibility, it means Trump's management of protests/riots in his 1st term has been an abject failure.

Well it's both. Trump did his part by offering federal assistance and the Portland Mayor declined it.

[DMC]

Oh cool protest funding conspiracies. Who's funding the protests? Soros and/or Bill Gates?

For what you say about me being uncomposed, you went from being a moderate conservative to being a conspiracy peddling Trumper :lol

"That's assuming it's happening"

Pretty sure that's a disclaimer.

[Winehole23]

:lmao calling someone "uncomposed" for posting something you disagree withjust trying to have an "adult" conversation

[Will Hunting]

Well it's both. Trump did his part by offering federal assistance and the Portland Mayor declined it.
No, he sent DHS agents against the wishes of Portland's Mayor and they only made it worse.

Regardless, if Portland's mayor can decline his offering of assistance, I don't see how a 2nd term changes anything. Wheeler will just decline assistance a year from now they same way he's declining it now.

[DMC]

just trying to have an "adult" conversation

Start another fake news thread.

[ChumpDumper]

Oh cool protest funding conspiracies. Who's funding the protests? Soros and/or Bill Gates?

For what you say about me being uncomposed, you went from being a moderate conservative to being a conspiracy peddling Trumper :lolJesus, every single ST Trump supporter lies and subscribes to conspiracy theories.:lol

Why do they think people standing around in their own cities have to be funded?

[Will Hunting]

Jesus, every single ST Trump supporter lies and subscribes to conspiracy theories.:lol

Why do they think people standing around in their own cities have to be funded?
We've got tens of millions of people on unemployment right now. If there was a way to make money protesting, pretty sure our streets would be filled to the brim with protesters :lol

[Will Hunting]

No, disagreement is expected. Becoming RG isn't. Usually you lace your takes with pragmatism, not just biased homeristic takes that change based on the party in question.
I still say plenty of negative shit about Dems if that's what you're referring to :lol

[DMC]

Backing Protests
If helping design police reform represents one philanthropic response to the shootings, activist movements that swelled following the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., offer another. Groups that emerged after Ferguson are mobilizing thousands of people for protests that develop with lightning speed and have dramatic impact. Their approach appeals to some grant makers.

"I’ve never seen the level of organizing and activism in Chicago in the 25 years that I’ve lived here," says Alysia Tate, director of programs at the Chicago Foundation for Women, which is funding several activist groups.

Funders for Justice was launched during the Ferguson crisis to support this form of activism. Neighborhood Funders Group and the Unitarian Universalist Veatch Program at Shelter Rock — two organizations backing grass-roots social-justice efforts — joined with the Ford Foundation to start the network, which has grown to 300 members, according to organizers. They provide general and program support to grass-roots activists but also "rapid response" dollars that pay for protest essentials — food, unifying T-shirts, legal support, and bail money when demonstrators are jailed.

Funders for Justice members include the NoVo Foundation, the Open Society Foundations, and small alliances of high-wealth individual donors such as Solidaire,whose leaders include Leah Hunt-Hendrix, granddaughter of the oil and gas tycoon H.L. Hunt.

https://www.nfg.org/ffj_backing_protests

[DMC]

https://i.imgur.com/zjfXxod.jpg

Donation to a fund that supports protests

[Will Hunting]

https://i.imgur.com/zjfXxod.jpg

Donation to a fund that supports protests
Yeah, protests cost money. That doesn't mean the protesters are getting paid.

[ChumpDumper]

goalpost: moved

[DMC]

I still say plenty of negative shit about Dems if that's what you're referring to :lol

Nah, it's more about conflicting takes on basically the same events just with different party affiliations.

[DMC]

goalpost: moved

Are protests funded or not? If you're going to call someone a conspiracy theorist because they mentioned funding of protest-for-pay folks, don't get all felt up with "goal post move" retorts when I show you.

[DMC]

Yeah, protests cost money. That doesn't mean the protesters are getting paid.

If my living is taken care of because I am a professional on-call protester, then yeah it does.

And what do you mean it costs money? I thought these were organic uprisings of unemployed people.

[Winehole23]

You'd have to ask SR21 or Vy65 or someone who understands the laws better, but there are limits to federal power where state issues are concerned.Who would stop a determined Donald Trump? This administration doesn't stand much on legal niceties and from what I can tell, there are close to zero institutional checks on Trump at this point.

[Blake]

Not an answer, try again.

What party affiliation are the governors and mayors of the states/cities with the worst rioting?

Disingenuous question. Just another tsa day

[Will Hunting]

If my living is taken care of because I am a professional on-call protester, then yeah it does.

And what do you mean it costs money? I thought these were organic uprisings of unemployed people.

You already posted how they cost money:

Backing Protests
If helping design police reform represents one philanthropic response to the shootings, activist movements that swelled following the 2014 shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., offer another. Groups that emerged after Ferguson are mobilizing thousands of people for protests that develop with lightning speed and have dramatic impact. Their approach appeals to some grant makers.

"I’ve never seen the level of organizing and activism in Chicago in the 25 years that I’ve lived here," says Alysia Tate, director of programs at the Chicago Foundation for Women, which is funding several activist groups.

Funders for Justice was launched during the Ferguson crisis to support this form of activism. Neighborhood Funders Group and the Unitarian Universalist Veatch Program at Shelter Rock — two organizations backing grass-roots social-justice efforts — joined with the Ford Foundation to start the network, which has grown to 300 members, according to organizers. They provide general and program support to grass-roots activists but also "rapid response" dollars that pay for protest essentials — food, unifying T-shirts, legal support, and bail money when demonstrators are jailed.

Funders for Justice members include the NoVo Foundation, the Open Society Foundations, and small alliances of high-wealth individual donors such as Solidaire,whose leaders include Leah Hunt-Hendrix, granddaughter of the oil and gas tycoon H.L. Hunt.

https://www.nfg.org/ffj_backing_protests

No evidence that protesters are getting their living expenses paid.

[DMC]

Who would stop a determined Donald Trump? This administration doesn't stand much on legal niceties and from what I can tell, there are close to zero insitutional checks on Trump at this point.

Not a good or even viable rebuttal of what I said. Using totalitarianism as a viable federal response is dishonest as fuck.

[DMC]

You already posted how they cost money:


No evidence that protesters are getting their living expenses paid.

So you think food is vendor food from the taco stands during the riots?

[Winehole23]

Not a good or even viable rebuttal of what I said. Using totalitarianism as a viable federal response is dishonest as fuck.If you think totalitarianism doesn't have its nose inside the tent already, you've been concentrating too much on your own navel.

[Will Hunting]

So you think food is vendor food from the taco stands during the riots?
I have no idea what the food is, but I don't see any evidence the "food" is protesters getting free Amazon deliveries sent to their houses.

[ChumpDumper]

Are protests funded or not? If you're going to call someone a conspiracy theorist because they mentioned funding of protest-for-pay folks, don't get all felt up with "goal post move" retorts when I show you.:lmao protest for pay is your conspiracy theory.

Mailing lists and t-shirts constituted your goalpost move.

[Winehole23]

1300172848338817024

[Will Hunting]

"For $20 a month, you can sponsor your very own left wing protester!"

[DMC]

If you think totalitarianism doesn't have its nose inside the tent already, you've been concentrating too much on your own navel.

You're saying that Trump is negligent because he hasn't gone full Stalin.

[TSA]

Disingenuous question. Just another tsa day

There’s nothing disingenuous about it, and your second dodge is noted.

[TSA]

You're saying that Trump is negligent because he hasn't gone full Stalin.

They keep trying to have it both ways. It’s comedy.

[DMC]

I have no idea what the food is, but I don't see any evidence the "food" is protesters getting free Amazon deliveries sent to their houses.

Strawman it all you want. The protests are funded. People are paid to protest, even if that pay is in food. Flash mob protests on demand in every city isn't cheap. Don't pretend it's an organic "we are all offended" uprising. It's not. It's wealthy folks manipulating the political atmosphere and the market.

[TSA]

1300172848338817024

They aren’t “Trump’s cities” people feel unsafe in.

[ChumpDumper]

They aren’t “Trump’s cities” people feel unsafe in.

:lmao are you fucking joking?

Any middle aged white person taking facebook seriously feels unsafe in his/her city.

[Winehole23]

You're saying that Trump is negligent because he hasn't gone full Stalin.That's a hostile inference. It's also a mistaken one

[Will Hunting]

Strawman it all you want. The protests are funded. People are paid to protest, even if that pay is in food. Flash mob protests on demand in every city isn't cheap. Don't pretend it's an organic "we are all offended" uprising. It's not. It's wealthy folks manipulating the political atmosphere and the market.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/022/524/tumblr_o16n2kBlpX1ta3qyvo1_1280.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

Shit, Trump hasn't even bothered to go as far as Biden has denouncing the violence.

Has to let fucking Joe lead.:lol

[DMC]

That's a hostile inference. It's also a mistaken one

Hardly.

You said the camel's nose is already in the tent so Donald would just go in regardless of state's wishes if he was a truly determined. That's setting the bar at totalitarianism and not accepting anything less. It's chickenshit that you denied it.

[spurraider21]

boutons. winehole too i think
i said "assuming we're talking about the ones in office or the DNC"