Second Wave of Mass Job Layoffs Coming

[DMX7]

In the last 48 hours or so, here are just a few that came up and get ready for much much more as banks, other airlines and hospitality industry cut more.

American Airlines announced 19,000 layoffs
“It was assumed that by Sept. 30, the virus would be under control and demand for air travel would have returned. That is obviously not the case,” American CEO Doug Parker said.

Coca Cola announced 4,000 cuts
Coke had one of the worst quarters in its 134-year history due to COVID-19.

MGM announced 18,000 layoffs
“While we have safely resumed operations at many of our properties and have returned tens of thousands of our colleagues to work, our industry -- and country -- continues to be impacted by the pandemic, and we have not returned to full operating capacity,” CEO Bill Hornbuckle stated.

[Reck]

BUT THE RIOTS!

[Spurtacular]

In the last 48 hours or so, here are just a few that came up and get ready for much much more as banks, other airlines and hospitality industry cut more.

American Airlines announced 19,000 layoffs
“It was assumed that by Sept. 30, the virus would be under control and demand for air travel would have returned. That is obviously not the case,” American CEO Doug Parker said.

Coca Cola announced 4,000 cuts
Coke had one of the worst quarters in its 134-year history due to COVID-19.

MGM announced 18,000 layoffs
“While we have safely resumed operations at many of our properties and have returned tens of thousands of our colleagues to work, our industry -- and country -- continues to be impacted by the pandemic, and we have not returned to full operating capacity,” CEO Bill Hornbuckle stated.

American Airlines and MGM definitely hurting. Coke are plenty profitable and are just trimming the fat.
These companies are often shrewd.

[FrostKing]

BUT THE RIOTS!
Burning buildings and terrorizing downtown centers helps

[Will Hunting]

Burning buildings and terrorizing downtown centers helps
Trump’s America.

[FrostKing]

Trump’s America.
Lefts argument for permanent "change "

[SnakeBoy]

Trump’s America.

Dems promised to freak the fuck out if Hillary didn't win and they have kept their word. I respect that.

[Will Hunting]

Lefts argument for permanent "change "
Not an argument, just a fact. In 3.5 years Trump has gifted us double digit unemployment and widespread race riots.

[ChumpDumper]

Burning buildings and terrorizing downtown centers helpsHow did that lead to AA layoffs?

[ChumpDumper]

Dems promised to freak the fuck out if Hillary didn't win and they have kept their word. I respect that.Trump promised cases would go from 16 to zero very quickly.

[Reck]

Lefts argument for permanent "change "

So the law and order president is letting it burn...to prove a point?

What a leader! Let's give him 4 more years to own the libs!

[Will Hunting]

Dems promised to freak the fuck out if Hillary didn't win and they have kept their word. I respect that.
Sorry, I’m very much triggered by Trump creating a level of calamity in this country we haven’t seen since Herbert Hoover.

[FrostKing]

Not an argument, just a fact. In 3.5 years Trump has gifted us double digit unemployment and widespread race riots.
Both 2020 election year changes

Maybe Americans want that change. We will see which America people prefer on election night.

[ChumpDumper]

Both 2020 election year changes Does that mean they don't count?

[Will Hunting]

Both 2020 election year changes

Maybe Americans want that change. We will see which America people prefer on election night.
:lmao what the fuck do you mean election year changes? Is Trump not responsible for 2020?

[FrostKing]

Does that mean they don't count?
Both sides present their picture of the future on election year

I.E. millionaire entertainers not showing up to work while middle class is laid off

Like I said. Maybe Americans want this change.

[ChumpDumper]

Both sides present their picture of the future on election yearResults of the side in power doesn't count?

Trump is president.

Everything happening is happening while he is president.

[Will Hunting]

:lol the mental gymnastics Trumptards do to absolve him of any responsibility for anything never ceases to amaze me.

[Will Hunting]

Trump is president.

Everything happening is happening while he is president.
That’s it and that’s all.

[FrostKing]

President, not Fuhrer.

[ChumpDumper]

President, not Fuhrer.So now your contention is Trump is powerless in the face of any real problems.

Why vote for him?

[Will Hunting]

President, not Fuhrer.
Sending DHS agents in unmarked cars against the wishes or Portland/Oregon is pretty Fuhrer-like to me.

[FrostKing]

2nd term Economy will be bigly tbh

Heading back to work now for me. Good day and stay safe everyone.

[Will Hunting]

2nd term Economy will be bigly tbh

Back to work for me
I thought you have a STEM degree from American University and just moved back to Poland?

[FrostKing]

You fuckers respond fast :lol

Finishing lunch break.

[Winehole23]

This was avoidable, but the Senate and the WH refused to extend UI or pass new stimulus.

[ChumpDumper]

2nd term Economy will be bigly tbh

Heading back to work now for me. Good day and stay safe everyone.You said you were on vacation in Poland.

[TimDunkem]

Now Bill Millers is crying about not being able to hire anybody.

"It's definitely the unemployment checks :cry"

https://www.kens5.com/article/money/economy/shorthanded-bill-miller-bar-b-q-struggling-to-keep-dining-rooms-open/273-88d6b77a-c0d9-4bab-91db-66cdca3eb765

Shouldn't have pushed the Balous Miller reopening plan. Now business is as bad as ever. Oh, and - yeah - the fact that they pay even less than unemployment for shit work and shit hours might have something to do with it.

[Will Hunting]

This was avoidable, but the Senate and the WH refused to extend UI or pass new stimulus.
Political suicide for Trump. He passes the stimulus package and recovery gets even better between now and Election time and a lot of voters give him credit for it. Now he’s basically rolling the dice on old fashion bootstrap austerity not setting us back between now and November.

[ChumpDumper]

Now Bill Millers is crying about not being able to hire anybody.

"It's definitely the unemployment checks :cry"

https://www.kens5.com/article/money/economy/shorthanded-bill-miller-bar-b-q-struggling-to-keep-dining-rooms-open/273-88d6b77a-c0d9-4bab-91db-66cdca3eb765

Shouldn't have pushed the Balous Miller reopening plan. Now business is as bad as ever. Oh, and - yeah - the fact that they pay even less than unemployment for shit work and shit hours might have something to do with it.Meanwhile, Egbert doesn't know what it is going to take get the entry-level jobs filled. For some jobs, they are advertising starting pay as $14 to to$18 an hour.

They have 2 job openings listed on their website. One is for $12/hr.

[TimDunkem]

Meanwhile, Egbert doesn't know what it is going to take get the entry-level jobs filled. For some jobs, they are advertising starting pay as $14 to to$18 an hour.

They have 2 job openings listed on their website. One is for $12/hr.
And like any sleazy business they will not let you work full-time even if you want to, so that 12 per is nothing.

These places cry about not being able to hire anyone, but willingly choose to run them with skeleton crews. When the restaurants opened up in May it was like a new golden age. They had the built-in excuse not to hire everyone back but still opened up as close to max capacity as they could while offering up any deals they could to keep people ordering online if they couldn't come in. Business was better than ever.

Now they're dealing with the consequences. Not going to shed a single tear for Ol' Balous. :lol

[Reck]

BTW OP, my bad for killing your thread. I totally derailed it with my own OP. Lmao

[baseline bum]

Dems promised to freak the fuck out if Hillary didn't win and they have kept their word. I respect that.

Those aren't Democrats in the street, if those motherfuckers voted Bernie would have been president at least three terms consecutive tbh

[ChumpDumper]

And like any sleazy business they will not let you work full-time even if you want to, so that 12 per is nothing.

These places cry about not being able to hire anyone, but willingly choose to run them with skeleton crews. When the restaurants opened up in May it was like a new golden age. They had the built-in excuse not to hire everyone back but still opened up as close to max capacity as they could while offering up any deals they could to keep people ordering online if they couldn't come in. Business was better than ever.

Now they're dealing with the consequences. Not going to shed a single tear for Ol' Balous. :lolI'm pissed at KENS for not even checking.

1 job listing on Indeed.:lol

[Will Hunting]

BTW OP, my bad for killing your thread. I totally derailed it with my own OP. Lmao
THE RIOTS!!! are their talking point between now and Election Day, it’s what their overlords have given them as the topic to parrot about. Makes sense since it’s sure as shit a better talking point than “If you ignore how much of a partial birth abortion the economy has been the last 6 months and currently is, it’s da best economy ever!”

[Trainwreck2100]

THE RIOTS!!! are their talking point between now and Election Day, it’s what their overlords have given them as the topic to parrot about. Makes sense since it’s sure as shit a better talking point than “If you ignore how much of a partial birth abortion the economy has been the last 6 months and currently is, it’s da best economy ever!”

we in the middle of that amazing K shaped recovery though

[Winehole23]

Political suicide for Trump. He passes the stimulus package and recovery gets even better between now and Election time and a lot of voters give him credit for it. Now he’s basically rolling the dice on old fashion bootstrap austerity not setting us back between now and November.Chaos, mayhem, pestilence and a spoiled election seems to be the Trump strategy.A state of emergency and the suspension of the Constitution might be his best chance to remain in power.

[Spurminator]

Now Bill Millers is crying about not being able to hire anybody.

"It's definitely the unemployment checks :cry"

https://www.kens5.com/article/money/economy/shorthanded-bill-miller-bar-b-q-struggling-to-keep-dining-rooms-open/273-88d6b77a-c0d9-4bab-91db-66cdca3eb765

Shouldn't have pushed the Balous Miller reopening plan. Now business is as bad as ever. Oh, and - yeah - the fact that they pay even less than unemployment for shit work and shit hours might have something to do with it.

Do these business owners not understand that people are ineligible to collect unemployment if you offer them a job?

You have it in your power to report them to the state for unemployment fraud. Or am I missing something?

[baseline bum]

Now Bill Millers is crying about not being able to hire anybody.

"It's definitely the unemployment checks :cry"

https://www.kens5.com/article/money/economy/shorthanded-bill-miller-bar-b-q-struggling-to-keep-dining-rooms-open/273-88d6b77a-c0d9-4bab-91db-66cdca3eb765

Shouldn't have pushed the Balous Miller reopening plan. Now business is as bad as ever. Oh, and - yeah - the fact that they pay even less than unemployment for shit work and shit hours might have something to do with it.

You mean people don't want to put themselves in one of the most dangerous places, eg in a small dining room packed with people, for ~$10 an hour during a pandemic that has killed 200,000 of us and has a good chance of killing another 200,000 before it's over?

[Will Hunting]

we in the middle of that amazing K shaped recovery though
How has the Biden campaign not jumped all over “K shaped recovery” as one of its slogans? Whoever came up with that was brilliant.

[DMX7]

Trump promised cases would go from 16 to zero very quickly.

Didn't he say that would happen in like a few days? Now when he's asked about that he insists that it still will go to zero, implying that he's technically not wrong if it goes from 16 to 5,000,000 to zero.

[baseline bum]

Didn't he say that would happen in like a few days? Now when he's asked about that he insists that it still will go to zero, implying that he's technically not wrong if it goes from 16 to 5,000,000 to zero.

It won't go to zero until the human population is near zero.

[Reck]

You mean people don't want to put themselves in one of the most dangerous places, eg in a small dining room packed with people, for ~$10 an hour during a pandemic that has killed 200,000 of us and has a good chance of killing another 200,000 before it's over?

New model now predicting 300,000 by December.

"It will just dissapear"

[Trainwreck2100]

New model now predicting 300,000 by December.

"It will just dissapear"

Models don't mean shit after November 3, depending on outcome masks may come off for the 35%

[Will Hunting]

New model now predicting 300,000 by December.

"It will just dissapear"
Dems need to be nonstop reminding people of it so Trump doesn’t normalize it. Biden campaign should ask baseline bum to create a daily coronavirus tracker they can use in ads.

[Trainwreck2100]

Dems need to be nonstop reminding people of it so Trump doesn’t normalize it. Biden campaign should ask baseline bum to create a daily coronavirus tracker they can use in ads.

Different scales the Benghazi scale, the 9/11 scale, the Vietnam scale.

[RandomGuy]

Dems promised to freak the fuck out if Hillary didn't win and they have kept their word. I respect that.

Dems can explain the spike in total deaths.

You can't. I'm sure in your head they all slipped in the shower.

smh

You stupid, racist, ignorant, paranoid, delusional mother fuckers are going to flip the fuck out when Trump loses. Qanon etc will inspire violence.

Your ideology will do that.

Your party.

The ones that take guns everywhere. I hope I am wrong. Really I do. I just don't see the crazy dialed back at all. Fox "news" has too much money to make convincing morons like you that BLM is the problem.

Lying sacks of shit like you will be right there making excuses and deflecting the entire time.

[RandomGuy]

Now Bill Millers is crying about not being able to hire anybody.

"It's definitely the unemployment checks :cry"

https://www.kens5.com/article/money/economy/shorthanded-bill-miller-bar-b-q-struggling-to-keep-dining-rooms-open/273-88d6b77a-c0d9-4bab-91db-66cdca3eb765

Shouldn't have pushed the Balous Miller reopening plan. Now business is as bad as ever. Oh, and - yeah - the fact that they pay even less than unemployment for shit work and shit hours might have something to do with it.

Stupid fuckers. If you can't find the labor... raise your wages.

These leeches are so used to sponging off their employees' time, that when the power dynamic flips... they can't figure it out.

Sort of proves it isn't really "capitalism". Free market solution is raise your wages until you get the labor you need. If they aren't doing that... they aren't free market capitalists.

[SnakeBoy]

Lying sacks of shit like you will be right there making excuses and deflecting the entire time.

Not me. I'm too busy making plans to house a dozen Libyan refugee families when it is convenient for me to do so.

[Will Hunting]

Stupid fuckers. If you can't find the labor... raise your wages.

These leeches are so used to sponging off their employees' time, that when the power dynamic flips... they can't figure it out.

Sort of proves it isn't really "capitalism". Free market solution is raise your wages until you get the labor you need. If they aren't doing that... they aren't free market capitalists.
It’s exactly why we need a UBI too, a UBI makes it so greedy restaurant owners actually have to pay respectable wages.

[DarrinS]

Going to get some Bill Miller's fried chicken. :tu

[ChumpDumper]

They don't have enough people to fry it.

[boutons_deux]

hotel chain changed 18K furloughed to 18K terminated

American Airlines, 17K terminated if no $$$

[Will Hunting]

hotel chain changed 18K furloughed to 18K terminated

American Airlines, 17K terminated if no $$$
"The best economy ever!"

[Reck]

"The best economy ever!"

I want to meet the geniuses who think he’s doing great with the economy. It’s about the only thing he leads Biden by. Over 10 points.

How is that possible? The morons have taken over this country.

[ducks]

BUT THE RIOTS!

So people spending less those riots will cost millions maybe billions

[Will Hunting]

I want to meet the geniuses who think he’s doing great with the economy. It’s about the only thing he leads Biden by. Over 10 points.

How is that possible? The morons have taken over this country.
It’s the same messaging issue Democrats have tripped over their dick on for decades. I still say the big problem is that Republicans talk about the economy a lot more than Democrats do.

It was an eye opener that Mike Bloomer was the only speaker at the convention to attack DJT for saying the economy was great before COVID.

[ducks]

NEWSPublished 1 hour ago
Bankrupt Hertz seeks $5.4M in executive bonuses
Top employees could rake in a total sum of $30 million before and after the company filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy

[Winehole23]

NEWSPublished 1 hour ago
Bankrupt Hertz seeks $5.4M in executive bonuses
Top employees could rake in a total sum of $30 million before and after the company filed for chapter 11 bankruptcySounds about right.

What a great country, eh?

[DMX7]

Sounds about right.

What a great country, eh?

Gotta retain that great talent! Please ignore the whole bankrupt thing.

[TDMVPDPOY]

first wave i sat at home 7 weeks

2nd wave i sat at home for 4 weeks and continue to do so

[DMX7]

first wave i sat at home 7 weeks

2nd wave i sat at home for 4 weeks and continue to do so

because of unemployment or Work at Home status?

[DMX7]

hotel chain changed 18K furloughed to 18K terminated

American Airlines, 17K terminated if no $$$

J.C. Penney; 70K jobs now at risk as bankruptcy could turn into liquidation


Negotiations to sell J.C. Penney to one of the largest mall owners in the country or other investors have stalled, placing the retailer on the edge of a potential liquidation of the entire chain.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/j-c-penney-bankruptcy-sale-171528932.html

[Will Hunting]

J.C. Penney has been on life support for the last 5+ years, all COVID-19 did was accelerate its demise. It's unfortunate because unlike jobs at American Airlines that will come back when the economy rebounds, most of those jobs at JC Penney aren't ever coming back.

[DMX7]

J.C. Penney has been on life support for the last 5+ years, all COVID-19 did was accelerate its demise. It's unfortunate because unlike jobs at American Airlines that will come back when the economy rebounds, most of those jobs at JC Penney aren't ever coming back.

It'll probably mean more business for Amazon, Macys and Dillards though. But yes, Penney was on its way to becoming like SEARS, a famous brand that collapsed.

[Reck]

J.C. Penney has been on life support for the last 5+ years, all COVID-19 did was accelerate its demise. It's unfortunate because unlike jobs at American Airlines that will come back when the economy rebounds, most of those jobs at JC Penney aren't ever coming back.

They should have folded once they beat Sears right out of existence. Time is over for these huge cosmetic stores.

Malls are also starting to get kind of obsolete.

[Will Hunting]

It'll probably mean more business for Amazon, Macys and Dillards though.
Maybe, but Amazon is more efficient though. It doesn’t need to employ as many people to sell the same amount of merchandise as JCP does.

[DMX7]

Maybe, but Amazon is more efficient though. It doesn’t need to employ as many people to sell the same amount of merchandise as JCP does.

Yes, It'll almost certainly be a net loss of jobs for the US economy regardless.

[boutons_deux]

[QUOTE=DMX7;10246706SEARS, a famous brand that collapsed.[/QUOTE]

Sears was destroyed by a predatory Capitalist, as was Toy R Us, and many companies destroyed by predatory Capitalists.

[TDMVPDPOY]

because of unemployment or Work at Home status?

ima a casual, casuals are expendable...

[GAustex]

I have more work than ever. I am turning down assignments due to workload.

[TimDunkem]

They should have folded once they beat Sears right out of existence. Time is over for these huge cosmetic stores.

Malls are also starting to get kind of obsolete.
Today's malls will eventually become Amazon fulfillment centers, tbh. :lol

[Will Hunting]

Today's malls will eventually become Amazon fulfillment centers, tbh. :lol
I've looked into this as a potential investment thesis, and it's less feasible than you'd think. Malls in general are pretty fucking useless in terms of being repurposed. A lot of Murican malls are just going to get flattened :lol

[baseline bum]

I've looked into this as a potential investment thesis, and it's less feasible than you'd think. Malls in general are pretty fucking useless in terms of being repurposed. A lot of Murican malls are just going to get flattened :lol

They'd make good brothels with all the rooms

[DMC]

my career is going swell

[Winehole23]

my career is going swellGlad to hear it.

Thanks for your topical contribution. :tu

[DMC]

Not an argument, just a fact. In 3.5 years Trump has gifted us double digit unemployment and widespread race riots.

When unemployment was at a historically low level the excuse from the left was that they were shit jobs. Because of the virus and the increase in unemployment because of the lockdown that was insisted upon now it's Trump costing Americans jobs. They can't have it both ways.

[DMC]

Glad to hear it.

Thanks for your topical contribution. :tu

Talk more about how Obama was forced into signing a bill because of super majority.

[Will Hunting]

They'd make good brothels with all the rooms
Good point tbh. In 5 years when there's millions of women in the country who need to sell themselves in order to survive, they'll need a place to do their business.

Economy of the future.

[Winehole23]

Talk more about how Obama was forced into signing a bill because of super majority.lol forced

[Will Hunting]

When unemployment was at a historically low level the excuse from the left was that they were shit jobs. Because of the virus and the increase in unemployment because of the lockdown that was insisted upon now it's Trump costing Americans jobs. They can't have it both ways.
I'm not having it both ways. It was a shitty economy pre-COVID and it's an even worse economy now. Bad jobs > no jobs.

I don't see the contradiction.

[Winehole23]

lol grudgeposting

[Winehole23]

When unemployment was at a historically low level the excuse from the left was that they were shit jobs. Because of the virus and the increase in unemployment because of the lockdown that was insisted upon now it's Trump costing Americans jobs. They can't have it both ways.Germany never locked down, do you know why?

[Will Hunting]

lol grudgeposting
:lol he's so desperate now

"All COVID-19 has done is make it so the people you claim were in bad jobs are now unemployed and even more screwed. CHECKMATE LIBERALS!!!"

[Will Hunting]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-cut-1-400-u-133714956.html

1,400 Ford jobs getting eliminated

:lol "I BROUGHT MANUFACTURING BACK TO THE US!"

[Winehole23]

TheCDC eviction moratorium kicks the can down the road. It also kicks landlords in the nuts.

I hope it holds up, I'm quinting hard at the quarantine power to see the legal authority for the moratorium and the taking. (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/264)

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/01/908581048/sweeping-new-eviction-ban-from-trump-administration

[tholdren]

Today's malls will eventually become Amazon fulfillment centers, tbh. :lol

lol you cried online about having covid. The disease that is less dangerous to you than a car ride. Classic

[tholdren]

:lol he's so desperate now

"All COVID-19 has done is make it so the people you claim were in bad jobs are now unemployed and even more screwed. CHECKMATE LIBERALS!!!"

bad jobs? Oh ok.... lolololol

[Winehole23]

...

[ElNono]

TheCDC eviction moratorium kicks the can down the road. It also kicks landlords in the nuts.

I hope it holds up, I'm quinting hard at the quarantine power to see the legal authority for the moratorium and the taking. (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/264)

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/09/01/908581048/sweeping-new-eviction-ban-from-trump-administration

I don't think it's legal, but for the sake of people, I also do hope it holds.

Ultimately I'm pinning this one on Congress.

[Winehole23]

verrry innnaresting.

exigent force leaves the victims bootless.

1300936150597668864

[Winehole23]

I wonder what Trump thinks of the present, as an international real-estate developer and as the most powerful public official in the world.

[Chris]

verrry innnaresting.

exigent force leaves the victims bootless.

1300936150597668864

:tu

[Winehole23]

:tuI think you missed the context. The victims in this case (CDC eviction moratorium) are landlords. You'd see them all deprived of payment by Trump without any assistance or compensation?

To be forced to carry their deadbeat tenants?

Of all people, I thought you would be a property protector. Smdh.

[Chris]

I tk you missed the text. The victims in this case are landlords.You'd see them all deprived of payment by Trump without any assistance or compensation?

To be forced to carry their deadbeat tenants?

Of all people, I thought you would be a property protector. Smdh.

nope I got it :tu

[Winehole23]

nope I got it :tucool :tu

[Chris]

cool :tu

:tu

[DMX7]

United Airlines with another big number — 16,370 jobs.


The company will lay off 16,370 of 36,000 workers who received “warn notices” in July.

The layoffs represent about 16% of United’s nearly 100,000-strong workforce prior to the onset of COVID-19, and become effective October 1.

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/united-involuntarily-furloughs-16370-workers-151046180.html

[Winehole23]

:tu^^^wants to blow shit up and not worry about it

[Chris]

^^^wants to blow shit up and not worry about it

:tu

[Winehole23]

distinctively radical, these younger alt-right types.

[Will Hunting]

Jesus Winehole can you stop posting some of this shit it's depressing to see constant examples of how beyond fucked this country is :lol

[Chris]

distinctively radical, these younger alt-right types.

alt right?

Radical Marxism is exclusive to the Left.

[Winehole23]

Jesus Winehole can you stop posting some of this shit it's depressing to see constant examples of how beyond fucked this country is :lol doomscrolling = eyes open and paying attention

[Winehole23]

alt right?

Radical Marxism is exclusive to the Left.you're the one defending dispropriating landlords without remedy, not me.

[Winehole23]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=286882&page=4&p=10248706&viewfull=1#post10248706

[DMC]

doomscrolling = eyes open and paying attention

Panic whore panic whoring

Let's remain hyper alert of impending doom and do nothing about it.

[spurraider21]

distinctively radical, these younger alt-right types.
you dont understand. if trump wants it, it gets a :tu from him. thats the extent of his brainpower

[Winehole23]

Panic whore panic whoring

Let's remain hyper alert of impending doom and do nothing about it.damn dude, you need another hobby. is stale.

no topical reply, instant ankle biting.

zzz

[DMC]

I'm not having it both ways. It was a shitty economy pre-COVID and it's an even worse economy now. Bad jobs > no jobs.

I don't see the contradiction.

So the criteria for success is even lower than record unemployment rate but with people making more than their marketability will sustain. Yeah not at all unreasonable.

[DMC]

damn dude, you need another hobby. is stale.

no topical reply, instant ankle biting.

zzz

You'll reply to yourself soon enough.

[Winehole23]

you dont understand. if trump wants it, it gets a :tu from him. thats the extent of his brainpowerin my own experience paying attention somewhat reading through the first time, then reviewing a little more carefully, earns something. it's like people don't even try.

my big problem with college classes was that if you did the assignment, there were only about five other people in any class who did the reading on the same day too. and they were mostly insuffferable.

[DMC]

Germany never locked down, do you know why?

When did Germany go on lockdown?
The coronavirus pandemic was confirmed to have reached Germany on January 27, 2020, when the first COVID-19 case was confirmed and contained near Munich, Bavaria.

Since 13 March, Germany ordered schools and nurseries to close and postponed academic semesters.

Ms Merkel also announced visits to nursing homes would be prohibited to protect the elderly.

Two days later, on March 15, borders to five neighbouring countries were closed.

On March 22, the German government announced a so-called lockdown and national curfew.


Tell me, assclown

[Winehole23]

Testing ramped up quickly, and society was reopened.

Their quarterly GDP loss was 1 percent. Ours was 9 percent.

[Winehole23]

As recalled by heart, nighty-nite!

[Winehole23]

You'll reply to yourself soon enough.it's more fun than talking to you, tbh.

[Chris]

if trump wants it, it gets a :tu from him

:tu

[Will Hunting]

So the criteria for success is even lower than record unemployment rate but with people making more than their marketability will sustain. Yeah not at all unreasonable.
No re: unemployment, no one said that the unemployment rate pre-COVID should have been even lower.

Regarding wages - every president since the 1970s, in one form or another, has been promising that working class Americans will make more than their marketability will sustain. Trump made this promise through saying he'd bring manufacturing jobs back to the US even though some nip in China could do the job for pennies on the dollar. The US has lost 250k manufacturing jobs since he took office. Not only has he failed to bring more manufacturing jobs back, he's failed to even keep all the manufacturing jobs we had.

[DMC]

Germany never locked down, do you know why?


Testing ramped up quickly, and society was reopened.

Their quarterly GDP loss was 1 percent. Ours was 9 percent.

:lol

[DMC]

No re: unemployment, no one said that the unemployment rate pre-COVID should have been even lower.

Regarding wages - every president since the 1970s, in one form or another, has been promising that working class Americans will make more than their marketability will sustain. Trump made this promise through saying he'd bring manufacturing jobs back to the US even though some nip in China could do the job for pennies on the dollar. The US has lost 250k manufacturing jobs since he took office. Not only has he failed to bring more manufacturing jobs back, he's failed to even keep all the manufacturing jobs we had.

So jobs just appeared out of nowhere and somehow that's not a good thing? Where did everyone start working suddenly, selling chicken sandwiches at Popeyes?

[Will Hunting]

So jobs just appeared out of nowhere and somehow that's not a good thing? Where did everyone start working suddenly, selling chicken sandwiches at Popeyes?
I have no idea what you're talking about now. Regardless, jobs didn't just appear out of nowhere. Job growth was slower in Trump's first 2 years than it was in Obama's final 2 years. It's not like Trump took over a stagnant jobs market and made it explode, he inherited a growing jobs market and only saw the job growth decline after his corporate tax cuts went towards stock buybacks and never trickled down to the working class. There is nothing Trump himself did policywise to create a low unemployment rate, he inherited what was an already low unemployment rate that had positive momentum. Sorry that I don't think that makes him an economic genius the way his supporters think it does.

Sidenote - As of now, Trump has destroyed more jobs than he's created :lmao

[DMC]

I have no idea what you're talking about now. Regardless, jobs didn't just appear out of nowhere. Job growth was slower in Trump's first 2 years than it was in Obama's final 2 years. It's not like Trump took over a stagnant jobs market and made it explode, he inherited a growing jobs market and only saw the job growth decline after his corporate tax cuts went towards stock buybacks and never trickled down to the working class. There is nothing Trump himself did policywise to create a low unemployment rate, he inherited what was an already low unemployment rate that had positive momentum. Sorry that I don't think that makes him an economic genius the way his supporters think it does.

Sidenote - As of now, Trump has destroyed more jobs than he's created :lmao

Destroyed how?

[Will Hunting]

Destroyed how?

In before :cry but you can't blame him for COVID-19 :cry

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Job_Growth_by_U.S._President_-_v1.png

[DMC]

In before :cry but you can't blame him for COVID-19 :cry

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Job_Growth_by_U.S._President_-_v1.png

Getting "in before" doesn't negate the obvious false claim you made.

2+3 = 7

in before "muh math".

[ChumpDumper]

I have no idea what you're talking about now. Regardless, jobs didn't just appear out of nowhere. Job growth was slower in Trump's first 2 years than it was in Obama's final 2 years. It's not like Trump took over a stagnant jobs market and made it explode, he inherited a growing jobs market and only saw the job growth decline after his corporate tax cuts went towards stock buybacks and never trickled down to the working class. There is nothing Trump himself did policywise to create a low unemployment rate, he inherited what was an already low unemployment rate that had positive momentum. Sorry that I don't think that makes him an economic genius the way his supporters think it does.

Sidenote - As of now, Trump has destroyed more jobs than he's created :lmaoIf you give him credit for creating jobs, you have to give him credit for destroying jobs too.:tu

[DMC]

If you give him credit for creating jobs, you have to give him credit for destroying jobs too.:tu

He didn't give him credit for creating jobs "he inherited a growing jobs market"

Are you mentally retarded or just have a reading comprehension issue?

[Will Hunting]

Getting "in before" doesn't negate the obvious false claim you made.

2+3 = 7

in before "muh math".
He destroyed jobs by shutting the country down after not being adequately prepared for a pandemic.

[ChumpDumper]

He didn't give him credit for creating jobsYou did.:tu

[DMC]

He destroyed jobs by shutting the country down after not being adequately prepared for a pandemic.
I guess that's one way to spin it.

Trump Resists National Shutdown, Leaving It up to States

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-04-01/despite-grim-projections-trump-resists-national-quarantine

Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Wednesday the nation's federalist system leaves much of the authority on how to properly respond to catastrophes to state governors and local officials.

“We trust the governors and the mayors to understand their people and understand whether or not they feel like they can trust the people in their states to make the right decisions,” Adams said on ABC's “Good Morning America.”

On Wednesday alone, five more states — Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Nevada and Pennsylvania — added or expanded their stay-at-home orders.

[ChumpDumper]

He destroyed jobs by shutting the country down after not being adequately prepared for a pandemic.Yep, he's the worst leader this nation has had in at least 100 years and DMC loves the guy and supports him to the death. Everything is fine as far as DMC sees things.

[DMC]

Yep, he's the worst leader this nation has had in at least 100 years and DMC loves the guy and supports him to the death. Everything is fine as far as DMC sees things.

Orangeman bad

[ChumpDumper]

Orangeman badDo you think he's a good president?

If yes, why?

[DMC]

Do you think he's a good president?

If yes, why?
Go diddle yourself with Spurtacular in another thread.

[ChumpDumper]

Start a new thread.DMC folds

:lol

[DMC]

I guess that's one way to spin it.

Trump Resists National Shutdown, Leaving It up to States

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-04-01/despite-grim-projections-trump-resists-national-quarantine

Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Wednesday the nation's federalist system leaves much of the authority on how to properly respond to catastrophes to state governors and local officials.

“We trust the governors and the mayors to understand their people and understand whether or not they feel like they can trust the people in their states to make the right decisions,” Adams said on ABC's “Good Morning America.”

On Wednesday alone, five more states — Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Nevada and Pennsylvania — added or expanded their stay-at-home orders.


DMC folds

:lol

This is the discussion. No one is going to follow your lead, dipshit.

[Winehole23]

DuckingMuhCuestioners

[Will Hunting]

I guess that's one way to spin it.

Trump Resists National Shutdown, Leaving It up to States

https://www.usnews.com/news/politics/articles/2020-04-01/despite-grim-projections-trump-resists-national-quarantine

Surgeon General Jerome Adams said Wednesday the nation's federalist system leaves much of the authority on how to properly respond to catastrophes to state governors and local officials.

“We trust the governors and the mayors to understand their people and understand whether or not they feel like they can trust the people in their states to make the right decisions,” Adams said on ABC's “Good Morning America.”

On Wednesday alone, five more states — Florida, Georgia, Mississippi, Nevada and Pennsylvania — added or expanded their stay-at-home orders.
:lol "Trump isn't responsible for da states!"

[ChumpDumper]

This is the discussion. No one is going to follow your lead, dipshit.:lol you're angry when you fold

[ChumpDumper]

Go diddle yourself with Spurtacular in another thread.:lmao angry folded editing DMC

[Will Hunting]

Jesus, that's a really defensive response to someone asking DMC the innocuous question of whether you think the current president is a good or bad president.

[DMX7]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Job_Growth_by_U.S._President_-_v1.png

Just awful. The orange color is appropriate. Very sad for our country.

[DMX7]

Remember when we were told that restoring the enhanced unemployment benefits would hurt job growth because no one would want to take jobs? That's not looking very accurate right now.

[Will Hunting]

Remember when we were told that restoring the enhanced unemployment benefits would hurt job growth because no one would want to take jobs? That's not looking very accurate right now.
Just another instance of right wing dogma based economic theory being proven wrong.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1301860878292332544

[DMC]

:lol "Trump isn't responsible for da states!"

Lampooning the fact doesn't erase it.

[DMC]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1301860878292332544

Shit jobs mostly

[boutons_deux]

The department of labor actually fudge the numbers by changing who is and who isn't unemployed

Still nearly 1 million new unemployment claims per week

Still 25 to 30 million unemployed or dropped out of the labor market

Still the Senate reports refuse even a single dollar for the unemployed

[boutons_deux]

https://twitter.com/business/status/1301860878292332544

100Ks of temporary census jobs all gone in October